The Bodybuilder Who Left Me Speechless IJBB 296

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@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
Who was the FIRST big name bodybuilder who you saw in person?
@davidboggs3057
@davidboggs3057 2 ай бұрын
Not a big name..but Charles Durr was the 1st "real" bodybuilder I met when was about 17 or so. Blown away by how he looked and how nice he was. Now..speechless?? I met Serge Nubret in Rimini Italy in 1995 at an expo. I was dumbfounded and could barely speak to ask for a picture.
@mikeharrison9713
@mikeharrison9713 2 ай бұрын
Met Jay Cutler and King Kamali in 2000. They were both guest posing at the Louisiana State Championship. I remember it was just before they started their Olympia prep. Cutler was 305lbs, and Kamali was 315lbs!!
@hughjasol7327
@hughjasol7327 2 ай бұрын
First was Darrem Charles at an LA fitness in South FL. His son & I ended up becoming gym acquaintances when I was very young (like 14yrs old or so in 2006). I just remember Darrem's arms being absolutely absurd lookiing while doing pullups. The coolest pro was by far James Hollingshead that I met last yr while I was running the front desk of my gym. He & his wife were nothing but class & so kind. Haven't seen someone with that level of strength make it look so effortless & immediately after a vomit inducing set for the average man he would be willing to talk or take pics with people. The guy is Wired/Built DIFFERENT lol.
@JJOV00
@JJOV00 2 ай бұрын
I met these guys for the first time in -97 and all of them at the same weekend. Kevin Levrone, Chris Cormier, Ronnie Coleman, Nasser El Sonbaty, Paul Dillett, Vince Taylor, Marko Savolainen, Milos Sarcev, Lee Priest and a few others whose names I can't remember, it left an impact that is still felt today.
@ChristopherBryan-sf6ut
@ChristopherBryan-sf6ut 2 ай бұрын
Worked with greg plitt fitness model when he was a jacked 220. Not huge but he was impressive.
@paulhancock
@paulhancock 2 ай бұрын
I just want to say I appreciate you guys. Bodybuilding isn't even a big part of my life anymore and I just workout to feel good nowadays... But the culture will always be in my heart and I look forward to hearing you guys shoot the sh*t more than literally any other podcast. The humour and passion you show is unique to you three, and it makes a big difference to people's lives, probably more than you know. The collective experience, advice and common sense you guys give on this show is pure gold and I wish it existed when I was balls-deep in the sport! I hope the youngsters appreciate it... Which I'm sure they do. Long may it continue, fellas. Cheers from the UK.
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
thanks for the message Paul! And glad we can put this kind of content out. Glad you connect to it brother
@darrenrandy7358
@darrenrandy7358 2 ай бұрын
To Scott's point: you all are/have been a positive contribution in social media, particularly within our beloved sport of BB
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
thanks man! that is my goal. Leave a positive mark!!
@carrot5570
@carrot5570 2 ай бұрын
Andddd RING THE BELL 🔔
@themountain2564
@themountain2564 2 ай бұрын
I’m a blue collar worker and was out of listens from this channel this morning. Very blessed to be enjoying my beef and rice to this now💪
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching brother
@RoaneRanger
@RoaneRanger 2 ай бұрын
Towards the end you talked about the digital diet. I 100% support this theory and noticed that in my own life. You also hit the nail on the head with the content you put out, it’s definitely the protein portion of my digital diet.
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
"The protein portion" LOL. Thanks man. Thats the best compliment ever haha
@alexattardg4s975
@alexattardg4s975 Ай бұрын
Of course we remember the Kamali Titus rivalry!!!!! epic!
@CSchnakeBodybuilding
@CSchnakeBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
Took a page from Dusty and paused the show just to open the car windows and finish my drive being present. It happened to be 67° outside, sunny, and I didn’t even notice because I wasn’t present. Thanks, Dusty.
@jm158
@jm158 2 ай бұрын
Ron with the episode one Anadrol face. Love it
@justinmontgomery1255
@justinmontgomery1255 2 ай бұрын
Been here since before Scott was part of the crew and haven’t missed an episode since! Shoutout to you guys!
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
Thanks brother !!
@ericviner3864
@ericviner3864 2 ай бұрын
Question for the next podcast: 1. What has made you/would make you turn around and leave a gym? 2. Other than Mutant, what are the best supps on the market? 3. What advice have you given that turned out to be crap?
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
Great topic ideas!!
@hughcupples1279
@hughcupples1279 2 ай бұрын
It was probably 20 years ago, but I was training back, iso lat row, and this absolute house of a human being politely asks if he I’m done or if he can work in a set… that was Ron, at hardcore in Edmonton nicest guy at the gym, and a mountain of a man completely changed all my perspectives about the sport and the people in it
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
Ha no kidding !
@TheNattyTeacher
@TheNattyTeacher 2 ай бұрын
Question for the next podcast: What is your favorite direct abdominal exercise? Huge fan of the show! Listen every week!
@Thecutoffchris
@Thecutoffchris Ай бұрын
2015 as a 17 year old…. First day in my new gym and I walk in the locker room and see Kai Greene sitting there. Shocked was an understatement.
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding Ай бұрын
haha I bet man! He was insane looking
@devil5hlygrim972
@devil5hlygrim972 2 ай бұрын
Jay Cutler came to a GNC in Cranford NJ in like 2002 and I was 10 and I stood near him in awe and somewhere in my grandmas attic is a walgreens photo slip with the developed picture.
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
ah man thats cool. You need to find that pic!
@lucaslmm
@lucaslmm 2 ай бұрын
what an awesome episode. loved the mindset talk in the second half
@darrenrandy7358
@darrenrandy7358 2 ай бұрын
Great to have you back, Gentlemen!
@mpfitness3001
@mpfitness3001 2 ай бұрын
Great view of your pro card win year Ron 💪
@hollywood21639
@hollywood21639 2 ай бұрын
I used to work out at the same gym Fred Smalls used to train at in DE. The first real bodybuilder i saw up close.
@sweldup
@sweldup 2 ай бұрын
I remember I couldn’t wait for Flex and MD magazines to come out after Craig Titus and King Kamali competed with each other. I always wanted to see how heated it got and who beat who. I’d even be on the forums reading, always looking for a play by play. Looking back, it was so entertaining because they really hated each other.
@jamesspriggs7418
@jamesspriggs7418 2 ай бұрын
This show wouldn't be the same without you scott ive watched from day one although jedi is my favorite character on the show your a close second 😉❤️ love from the uk
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
Ha thanks brother !
@Powerdrum24-7
@Powerdrum24-7 2 ай бұрын
The cut off flannel…we had a guy at my gym that did this all the time. Dude looked like a jacked Mr. Belding! 😆👍🏻💪🏻
@jessiemoser4862
@jessiemoser4862 2 ай бұрын
Love the show #last5minutecrew also really love rons stories. Rons story in the beginning about the body builder. I hope to be that guy to someone
@christianmoran6814
@christianmoran6814 2 ай бұрын
Questions for next time. 1. Has a client ever surprised you in a big way such as not going all the way when you think they could go pro or on the other side you thought they were gonna be super easy to coach but turned out not to be. 2. Has a pro or would be pro who left the sport ever taken you by surprise
@RicktheBeast
@RicktheBeast 2 ай бұрын
I of course remember the Titus Kamali rivalry! I'm 55 and have followed bodybuilding since I started training at 11! Ferrigno was the first pro I met in London, Ontario when he place second to Robinson in the Masters Mr.O!
@teknykill
@teknykill 2 ай бұрын
Bill Wilmore took me to failure and man it worked!
@dittohead9496
@dittohead9496 2 ай бұрын
Great show lads!
@user-dn4lg1dv5v
@user-dn4lg1dv5v 2 ай бұрын
💯 remember Titus and King. Also, remember the Flex and MD magazine days. Good timez
@BernieDiveley-il1qg
@BernieDiveley-il1qg 2 ай бұрын
Looking forward to seeing my first!
@GUA45
@GUA45 2 ай бұрын
Scott I’m sure I’m not the first person to ask, but I think you guys should get michaela aycock on as the next guest. I could argue there’s no one more “Just Bodybuilding” than her. I think it would be an amazing episode 👍🏼🔥
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
She has a lot of anxiety about podcasting. We have talked a number of times about it and she bails every time. Some people just don’t find this stuff fun. I get that.
@kiddfamilyfarmllc9962
@kiddfamilyfarmllc9962 2 ай бұрын
I’m 63 , I remember all the old school stuff . I started with muscle and fitness in the late 80’s . Won the Mr. Cincinnati in 1990, which I believe is the oldest running bodybuilding show in the country. Also Matt Mendenhall was a Mr. Cincinnati a few years before. I would like to hear all of your opinions on the amount of pro cards handed out now. There seems to be few folks out there that get butt hurt when this subject comes up.
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
I would love to time hop back to see that 1990 Mr Cincinnati! Im sure it was a hell of a show
@darrenrandy7358
@darrenrandy7358 2 ай бұрын
Excellent Chris Cook story, Dusty!
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
I loved that story!!
@connierichards2875
@connierichards2875 2 ай бұрын
And here we go!❤🎉
@AlfiePage-d7d
@AlfiePage-d7d 2 ай бұрын
Question for the next show…..! Forearms: Over/Under/Accurately rated and whose are the most impressive you have ever seen? Thinking Flex Lewis, Lee Priest, Dorian, Tim Belknap but doesn’t even have to be a BB’er, could be a Strongman like Brian Shaw, or a Farm or Construction worker? Some of the most impressive swans I ever saw belonged to both my dad & my friend’s dad in their day & neither touched weights in the gym, just manual labour. Love the show, long time listen & look forward to you guys’ wisdom every week!
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
That’s a fun one
@connierichards2875
@connierichards2875 2 ай бұрын
Best game ever at the end 🎉🎉❤❤
@MeLoNHeAd00
@MeLoNHeAd00 2 ай бұрын
Question for the panel : what are the benefits a coach apart from physical stuff (peds,diet and workouts)
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
I think that just about covers it. The key is that a coach will fast track you to your goals and take the guess work out
@darrenrandy7358
@darrenrandy7358 2 ай бұрын
Selwin Cottrell, late 80s, Bodyworks Gym, Windsor, Ontario, seminar
@petebruh
@petebruh 2 ай бұрын
Awesome episode love the stories
@teknykill
@teknykill 2 ай бұрын
All of the topics really reminded me of meeting Bodybuilders in person. I did the Hernandez 2000 Classic and won LW. But the guy whom took 2nd was pist it was his third time trying to win that show lol he threw his stuff when I disrobed best feeling ! I got most entertaining posing did moves I learned from Russ Testo9Met him in NY state show by Hunter Mountain. I posed for until I stopped losing my breath lol then I look great during prejudge
@kenwhritenour9796
@kenwhritenour9796 2 ай бұрын
I’m old, the first I ever met was Albert Beckles at Night of Champions, Beacon Theatre, NYC
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
that would have been really cool!
@jaybiclynne2933
@jaybiclynne2933 2 ай бұрын
Will you guys please review The Westcoast Iron OPEN Vancity Showdown in 5 weeks and shout out all the overall winners??? I’d love to see some of your guys feedback, critiques, and suggestions for improvement.
@RicktheBeast
@RicktheBeast 2 ай бұрын
I met Evan a few years back in Scarborough. He was with Animal still and it was a gym opening and Centopani was super nice and chill! Yes please get him on the show! # last last8minutescrew
@JonathanSmith-cl4on
@JonathanSmith-cl4on Ай бұрын
Justin Compton!!! 😳 very underrated
@specialagent1751
@specialagent1751 2 ай бұрын
When I was in high school I had to drive an hour to buy a Flex and Musclemag. The guy at GNC would stash one of each for me under the counter The magazines would get there around the 5th of the month.
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
thats dedication !! I know what you mean though. The magazines were gold back then
@philliponfitness
@philliponfitness 2 ай бұрын
Eating my rice on lunch watching this one. I don't think I've ever actually seen a bodybuilder in person
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
you're kidding!? We need to get you to a show. It is so different in person man
@philliponfitness
@philliponfitness 2 ай бұрын
@@ThinkBIGBodybuilding yup no joke. the gym I always went to was a hole in the wall and when I got serious I trained at home. Definitely gonna have to hit up one of the expos!
@UCSUMMA
@UCSUMMA 2 ай бұрын
Question for the next show - how do you feel about clients who tag you in every post? Can it be too much? What is good/bad etiquette?
@nickvuocolo6083
@nickvuocolo6083 2 ай бұрын
Dusty we need a video of u doing a Dumbell row with ur forearm on ur knee.. I don’t know if I could do that !
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
The people have spoken. Let's ask him!
@muscleoffigus
@muscleoffigus Ай бұрын
I was at the 2004 ifbb australian grand prix, in melbourne, where king and craig mixed it up on stage and it was hilarious.
@VP-eq4nc
@VP-eq4nc 2 ай бұрын
“You learn quick when Lee Labrada is around” 😂😂😂🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@turo1978evo
@turo1978evo 2 ай бұрын
It's never enough 🎉🎉😂
@datnip79
@datnip79 2 ай бұрын
I’m 45 and definitely remember King vs Craig. I also remember Craig and Kelly doing meth for days on end, killing their assistant and burning her body in his car in the desert. I also remember his failed attempt to escape prison where they found him on a roof or some shit. I remember Kelly divorcing him while she was also in prison. CRAZY STORY. Sad as hell.
@user-dn4lg1dv5v
@user-dn4lg1dv5v 2 ай бұрын
I use the knee for dumbbell raw dog rows as well. I'm with Dusty.
@xaviermarroquin4507
@xaviermarroquin4507 2 ай бұрын
I remember the King and Titus rivalry...GOOOFY VATOS
@cjbrown2614
@cjbrown2614 2 ай бұрын
Question for the next show. What’s your thoughts on mass builder movements in the gym? Like close grip bench for triceps vs one arm cable press downs. In the context of weekly volume for a body part its best to incorporate both isolation and compound movements obviously Long winded but do you think if you were to measure the muscle mass gained on a scale between 2 twins one can literally grow more from squats vs leg extensions for example I always cringe when I hear a competitor in the gym saying. “This is the mass building movement for the workout” Love the show gentlemen,gets me through cardio
@mikeharrison9713
@mikeharrison9713 2 ай бұрын
I loved the Titus - Kamali fued!! I wonder if and how many times Titus considered killing him? And if Kamali later thought about that possibility?
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
LOL yea I bet Kamali stepped back after and thought about that for sure !
@MeLoNHeAd00
@MeLoNHeAd00 2 ай бұрын
Titus was only doing coke back then and not into meth yet lol !
@captaincurt62
@captaincurt62 2 ай бұрын
I remember Kamala vs. Titus! 💪😂👍
@BroderickBrodie21
@BroderickBrodie21 2 ай бұрын
What was everyone’s favourite childhood show growing up.
@zbon44
@zbon44 2 ай бұрын
Love the flashback!
@Brant_Dunn
@Brant_Dunn 2 ай бұрын
Last 5 min crew member here: what would you say is the optimal way to go straight from a pre contest cycle into a mass gaining cycle for maximum gains and no regard for health? I was thinking a mild dose test & primo with a sprinkle of gh for 8 weeks then start blasting aggressively. Thoughts? P.S. I know Ron irl
@haido3371
@haido3371 2 ай бұрын
I’ll take gayest comment of the day here but y’all look incredibly young to talk about gym stories in the 90’s. Especially for pushing gear and stress on the body just blows my mind.
@geozeo710
@geozeo710 2 ай бұрын
Bertil Fox 84 - fucking huge!
@kane6529
@kane6529 2 ай бұрын
My Uncles best friends sister smoked crack with Bertil in the Summer of 83’ 💪😤
@MeLoNHeAd00
@MeLoNHeAd00 2 ай бұрын
​@@kane6529I knew it !!
@PRANKO420
@PRANKO420 2 ай бұрын
Last 5 🤚🏼
@lukasz.rytkowski
@lukasz.rytkowski 2 ай бұрын
Questions for next podcast - last time I forgot to post them here so Ive made a mind note ;-) here they are: 1. What is an unpopular opinion you hold? 2. What is your usual order at a diner? 3. What is the weirdest food combination you enjoy? 4. Who would you choose if you could be friends with a fictional character? 5. What do you bring most to a friendship?
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
these are great man!
@lukasz.rytkowski
@lukasz.rytkowski 2 ай бұрын
@@ThinkBIGBodybuilding ;-)
@trentlarson3457
@trentlarson3457 2 ай бұрын
Totally remember Kamali vs Titus. Too bad one of them ended up where he did.
@PTPalmer_NPC
@PTPalmer_NPC 2 ай бұрын
The face cramps and ammonia smell are when it gets real!! I looked fat in all my pictures at checkins for universe this meal because my jaw was fully cramped on both sides. Pure chipmunk 😂
@sweldup
@sweldup 2 ай бұрын
I remember my wife at the time would always tell me I had this odor she couldn’t stop smelling no matter what I did. That’s how I always knew I was gonna be peeled! 😂
@davidboggs3057
@davidboggs3057 2 ай бұрын
Gotta know what type of Jeep Ron had back in the day..
@jefferykleinsmithj9611
@jefferykleinsmithj9611 2 ай бұрын
rank them in order 1. Sushi 2. Burger & Fry 3.Pizza 4.Pasta
@MeLoNHeAd00
@MeLoNHeAd00 2 ай бұрын
My first experience was a canadian guy who for sure would have been a pro but stopped after he started his family. I thought Ron would have been some Canadian guy up in Alberta nobody ever heard of! Nope it was Dorian!
@jayburkett9719
@jayburkett9719 2 ай бұрын
🚀👍
@Kevin-21
@Kevin-21 2 ай бұрын
Ron said that he was small and 300lbs in the same sentence....I wish I were that small
@dannyboyfit
@dannyboyfit 2 ай бұрын
21:51 I remember it
@sunsin8498
@sunsin8498 2 ай бұрын
I would love to know exactly what each of you take supplement wise each day and why?
@roba4139
@roba4139 2 ай бұрын
The only pro Ive seen in real life was Paulo Almeida. Lots of amateur guys such as myself.
@UCSUMMA
@UCSUMMA 2 ай бұрын
Spend time making yourself antifragile. Two-a-day football practices in August made me a man. Puking, passing out, crying, bleeding - these were the norm, not the exception.
@reaganmorrow9601
@reaganmorrow9601 2 ай бұрын
Not sure what that best show for this question is: What do you think about low dose of a beta receptor agonist in the offseason paired with fasted cardio to help with fat burning? Like clen or albuterol for example
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
it would be better suited for Drugs n Stuff with me and Dave Crosland. If you want to post it on the latest episode, I will be sure to get it on the next show
@reaganmorrow9601
@reaganmorrow9601 2 ай бұрын
@@ThinkBIGBodybuilding sorry! I thought this was the latest episode. I’ll go to drugs n stuff. Thanks!
@thenags
@thenags 2 ай бұрын
💪🏼💪🏼
@Jamesppoitra
@Jamesppoitra 2 ай бұрын
#5mincrew
@ghostman824
@ghostman824 2 ай бұрын
Whata your opinions on making prep as fun as possible even if you get 95% there but it was so fun and you can do it evey year or should it be hell to get to 100% every time and you dread the experiences and then might not prep again? Obvious different for the o but for regular competitors at national level that ot will always be a hobby.
@ghostman824
@ghostman824 2 ай бұрын
Like you have some fun high days. Experiment abit with high n low days. Like no cardio but less food or more food but focus on less stress to lose fat etc? I know there's always hell in final weeks but before that I feel if you find a way to make it fun n enjoyable thr fat drops off better than feeling shit 12 weeks out. I've had a prep now that has been easy with high food coz I jist didn't stress about it and had unstructured high days , like way high and been losing fat the fastest ever and best look on stage yet.
@ghostman824
@ghostman824 2 ай бұрын
Stress has the biggest impact on fat loss imo. And sometimes I think trying to prep on the highest food possible and stress less and good sessions is the best method. Rather than huge deficits and hours of cardio
@andrewritger2901
@andrewritger2901 2 ай бұрын
Chonky Ron in the throwback. I remember being in high school and going to Pinnacle in OKC and seeing the forearms and back on this roided out chick and thinking damn I want to look like that. I could not stop looking at her and he competitor friend. She must have been a couple weeks out from her show.
@sukesingh2099
@sukesingh2099 2 ай бұрын
Whats the joke about "Dorian's fish"? I heard it mentioned a couple of times
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
I guess it's become an inside joke from an older episode, a couple months back
@davec2727
@davec2727 2 ай бұрын
Frank Zane seminar in England late seventies
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
ah man that would be epic!!
@sunsin8498
@sunsin8498 2 ай бұрын
I keep hearing get blood work done. Which I do. No one explains what needs to be tested. I’m very curious to know exactly what should be tested. My experience trt clinics only test testosterone and 27:36 estrogen. I also privately get myself tested but I need to know what to tell me my dr to add.
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
we can talk about this and feel free to email me. I can give you some direction mcnallydiets @ gmail
@sunsin8498
@sunsin8498 2 ай бұрын
@@ThinkBIGBodybuilding I appreciate that very much and will contact you for sure. I really think this would be a great topic to discuss on the podcast. No other podcast to my knowledge has ever discussed exactly what you should be checked. Keep up the great work. It’s appreciated.
@BroderickBrodie21
@BroderickBrodie21 2 ай бұрын
“Would you rather have to explain the benefits of buying products from mutant to every person you meet for the rest of your life or have to shave your legs with a cheese grater before every leg day?”
@YoMomma1337
@YoMomma1337 2 ай бұрын
Is mutant signing Nick Walker? 🤔
@sunsin8498
@sunsin8498 2 ай бұрын
I heard there is a tren to test ration. Is that true? and if so what is it?
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding
@ThinkBIGBodybuilding 2 ай бұрын
with tren, the lower the better.
@MeLoNHeAd00
@MeLoNHeAd00 2 ай бұрын
Dustys eyes okay?
@VeeTaperTemplar
@VeeTaperTemplar 2 ай бұрын
Aye, squat and you may die. Skip and you'll live -- at least a while. And dying in your beds many years from now, would you be willing to trade all the days from this day to that for one chance, just one chance to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our squat racks for curls, but they'll never take our tree trunk fuck off legs - Mel Gibson @ Golds
@nachtrevi82
@nachtrevi82 2 ай бұрын
I was thinking if Mohammed Makawi as well, do you remember when he brought like a camel on stage.. Strictly from the posing perspective I really like the women's Fitness, they push it really hard.
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