The Boy Who Put On A Sock That Had A Spider In It

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[@feedbackzaloop]

"the spiders get bigger the higher up you lived" - that finally explans correlation between Spider Man and skyscrapers

[@kimberlygabaldon3260]

It explains why we have so many big spiders at 6000 ft altitude in Colorado.

[@zacksmith5801]

@@kimberlygabaldon3260 The only large species we have are three tarantulas (new world origin so not very venomous) and they only reside in very south eastern CO. Pueblo is home of the "Tarantula Migration" annually and you can thank them for the little amount of pesty insects you deal with in the summers, if you think bugs are bad please move somewhere else for a year then come back. The largest species of spider lives in Africa right at sea level, and the largest on our side of the world is the largest tarantula known to man and they reside below sea level.

[@Coolguyman_VR]

That is funny

[@Coolguyman_VR]

That is funny

[@Coolguyman_VR]

That is funny

[@DoctorSockrates]

I expected the freezeframe at 7:09, and I got it. Never change, doctor.

[@h4wk5t4r]

Subliminal messaging!

[@diyeana]

@@h4wk5t4r I saw something flash but I can't get the video to stop long enough to see what it was.

[@Sylphaeri]

@@diyeana it was a crewmate from the game "Among Us"

[@ikocheratcr]

@@diyeana use keys to navigate: K=stop, then ",": back one frame, ".": forwards one frame. left arrow : -5s, right arrow: +5s, that how I was able to see it

[@theabirde]

to my knowledge, cant do that on mobile. im on a phone right now so id have t do it manually

[@diyeana]

The first time I went to Florida to visit family I was setting up my bed and saw a gigantic spider run across the room. I ran out of the room and yelled about the spider. My great aunt said, "Oh honey, that's just a _house_ spider!" I didn't sleep well in that house.

[@kevin_heslip]

Recently moved to FL and have found 3 huntsmen spiders about 3 inches wide in my house since. Apparently they’re not dangerous but, fkn scary

[@diyeana]

@@kevin_heslip I'm guessing that's what I saw, but I was a kid and at that time all I knew was that thing could have owned property. You are a strong man for staying in the State.

[@jadedmonk7001]

@@diyeana Been living in Joshua Tree, CA. for decades. LOTS of them here...hanging out with the tarantulas, scorpions and rattlers. We also have wind scorpions/camel spiders. Basically the same thing as the Huntsman. Those dudes really scare the💩 outta me.

[@wmd40]

There's house spiders in every country around the world. Don't worry, they're with you wherever you are making sure you're truly never alone 😊 pretty nice of them if you ask me lmao

[@xhappybunnyx]

Just a lil creepy bug roomba getting where it needs to go!

[@mfaizsyahmi]

"In general, we know that spiders are synanthropic, meaning the more people there are, the more spiders there are, they happen to live _among us."_ GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE GET OUT OF MY HOUSE

[@chell6022]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA GET OUT!

[@mimisezlol]

Br0wnR3cluse7818 was not the imposter

[@carnivorebear6582]

Spiders are pretty sus

[@IceHibiscus]

It is less that they "happen" to live among us and more that the conditions we create make life for them more favorable. Our ability to attract and sustain pests in and around our dwellings is a selective pressure that favors many types of arachnids.

[@IceHibiscus]

@@carnivorebear6582 No, they are just opportunistic. We create many ideal conditions for them. If anything, we are the anomalies. I would say that we serve at their pleasure, but the vast majority of spiders probably cannot feel gratification.

[@erictaylor5462]

when I was living in Death Valley I would shake out my shoe and my leg before putting them on. On one morning I shook out my prosthetic leg and a giant hairy scorpion. This species can grow to 5.5 inches (14 cm) and this was a big one. Their sting is not usually lethal but they are extremely painful and cause quite a lot of swelling. The damn scorpion nearly landed on my bare foot, but I pulled it up onto my bed quick.

[@Guts_Brando]

Oh god

[@shivanithakar9658]

I would honestly faint if that happened to me, kudos to you for being so brave

[@erictaylor5462]

@@shivanithakar9658 Do you count screaming like a little girl being brave?

[@Rickdegraaf]

@@erictaylor5462 Definetly

[@WhatIsSanity]

@@erictaylor5462 14cm is a big scorpion, that sting would be quite um the experience. Screaming was justified.

[@commsky]

Just a point of order from an entomologist: There are technically hundreds of venomous spider species in the U.S. The only two medically relevant ones are the brown recluse and black widow though. Most spiders venom is mild and meant to kill insects and are essentially harmless to us.

[@miufke_]

So close...

[@miufke_]

So long... So soon...

[@garfieldnate]

I was gonna say that he forgot the boxer spider! Those can be a *really* nasty bite!

[@meemo32086]

Also at 3:40he mentioned there was a fiddle shaped spot on the brown recluse. Isn't that the black widow spider that had the fiddle shape mark?

[@ballboys607]

This video about (spider) bites reminded me of a topic that has fascinated me for a while: rabies. More specifically, I've always wondered about the "Milwaukee protocol" treatment for symptomatic rabies that's been used multiple times with limited (but seemingly real) success. Would you be able to talk about the current state of research on this kind of symptomatic rabies treatment and why it may or may not be recommended? EDIT: For the replies: yes I know there are pre- and post-exposure vaccine courses. That's why I specified symptomatic rabies. There's always going to be those few isolated cases where someone realized too late that they could've gotten rabies in a forgettable encounter with an animal.

[@fredleggett923]

The MP isn't really a protocol per-se, but more of a Hail Mary due to its almost nonexistent success. The girl that survived and is often cited now has pronounced permanent neurological issues. Your best chance of surviving rabies is to get the pre- and post-exposure vaccine, especially the latter.

[@ballboys607]

@@fredleggett923 I've taken a quick look at the current literature on it (note: not my research expertise, I'm just a curious dude), and a meta-analysis on it (from 2018 I think, it's been a while) gave something like 17% success rate worldwide. It's pretty abysmal for such a high-cost procedure, but for a developed country with the resources, it sounds like a last-resort treatment that's worth pursuing. However, the common consensus is that it's not worth it, even in developed countries. It's not really the Milwaukee protocol specifically that I'm curious about, but there are similar procedures that were developed more recently that have built on that n=1 success that MP had. I don't know if I'm missing something so I figured an actually educated medical professional like Dr. Bernie might be up to talk about it. If nothing else, it might make for a good video. Also for the record, I know that the treatment for pre-symptomatic vaccine/immunoglobulin treatment is extremely effective. I would be way more scared of animals if I didn't lol

[@fredleggett923]

@@ballboys607 Admittedly, I haven't done any deep dives into the subject, but 17% seems like a lot. I mean, a LOT. I've only read about five or six cases where the procedure was "successful" (meaning, the patient didn't die). There was a case here in Florida a few years ago that made the news where a kid contracted rabies and subsequently died, but the MP wasn't used. If it had a 17% success rate, I'd think that would be the go-to treatment once symptoms started to appear. However, maybe he was too young to survive such a debilitating procedure or something else about his biology made it contraindicated. I can't think of a more terrifying virus than rabies. I know it's exceedingly rare to contract it here in North America, so there's not much of a push to develop a cure, but when you hear that the virus can survive on surfaces for many hours, it makes a person rather paranoid, especially if you live near a bat colony (like I do). I've often thought of getting the pre-exposure vaccine, as the bats around here can get fairly bold and I've been buzzed a few times, but the last time I checked the series was over $500 and wasn't covered by insurance. Oh, and we apparently also have a roving band of coyotes that've recently made our neighborhood news. That doesn't even touch the usual wildlife rabies reservoir of raccoons, squirrels, feral cats, and the occasional wild dog.

[@johnbailey8103]

@@fredleggett923 there's a post-exposure vaccine that's useful before symptoms, it's just most people that die waited until symptoms showed before presentation at which point there's very little that can be done :/ (aka MP with that 17% efficacy that many hospitals don't use)

[@fredleggett923]

@@johnbailey8103 Oh, I know. From my understanding, even if you've had the pre-exposure series, you must still receive the post-exposure vaccine if you've been bitten or scratched, else the virus could survive the trip to the brain. The two together reaches something like a 99% survival rate with just the series alone. This is why bat rehabilitators have to periodically receive the post series since they're always getting scratched and occasionally bitten. I love what bats do to decrease the insect population, but I'm not sure I'd be brave enough to become a rehabber given the risks involved.

[@samuelb6960]

A coworker got a bite that became necrotic and the doctor said it was a brown recluse bite. We found another spider and he said it was the same kind. It was a hobo spider. I've heard of a lot of people getting necrotic wounds from hobo spiders but their venom doesn't cause it. I wonder if they have dirty mouth parts or if their bites tear the skin in such a way that makes infections likely.

[@mommywithnokidsss]

Man that’s just fucking gross I can’t sleep now because of that

[@Jakey4000]

They probably do have dirty mouths, or people scratch at the wound before realizing what it was.

[@theredeyther7502]

Could just be they had a lot of bacteria on the skin and that got into the bite wound

[@abasdarhon]

Combine a puncture wound, such as a bite or sting, which can often create deeper openings in the skin compared to lacerations with bacteria, usually the staph and strep bacteria that naturally live on the skin of most people, and you've got a decent chance of a necrotic wound developing if not properly cleaned and treated. There are published case reports of necrotic wounds arising from a simple bee sting which, while extremely rare, hopefully illustrates the problem of people prematurely jumping to "recluse bite" misdiagnoses.

[@jennaturner6784]

I said I wanted to live in a penthouse as my dream home but now I’ll stick to a house ON GROUND

[@Master_Petes_Theater]

Just wondering if global warming will cause the recluse spiders to migrate northward. It seems that fire ants are spreading. I remember seeing "lightning bugs" in North Carolina in the 1960s, but not in Michigan. Now they're ubiquitous in lower Michigan. Yeah, I know that this is somewhat off-topic, but it may be relevant down the pike. I have received a few spider bites and one ran across my face while I was lying down. And my house wasn't a laundry dump of dirty clothes! At any rate, this video is informative and well-presented, per usual! Be well, Dr. Bernard! Thanks! 👍

[@ballboys607]

There are cases of insects/plants hitching a ride on human transportation and living in new areas (see: tumbleweeds) so it wouldn't be all that surprising to see global warming giving brown recluses a new home. A lot of people tend to moralize the effects of climate change in their fights against it, but completely ignore the huge damage to economy/health. I bet a lot of people would be more onboard with green energy if they thought about the spiders.

[@Master_Petes_Theater]

@@ballboys607 Well stated! 👏

[@garbizwal]

We have Brown recluse spiders here on Vancouver Island. I was bit 4 months ago and my Fauther in law 3 months ago. One of my friends as well. We all got Nacrosis. (Ulcers) and my fauther in laws hand swelled up big.

[@grmpEqweer]

I was a child in the late 70's, and there were an abundance of fireflies in northwest Pennsylvania. So they probably aren't new to Michigan. Perhaps they're _retuning,_ due to a change in pesticide use on crops. My guess.

[@itsok2bwhiteendanti-whiteh548]

I see you jumped on the Ukraine 🇺🇦 bandwagon, just as easily as you did the doomsday warming scenario. Just know that the scaremongering we’re fed about the climate being an “existential threat” isn’t based in empirical science whatsoever. It’s strictly for political and financial gain. Don’t be a sheep. 🐑

[@homelesscrazyman]

Even when my room is clean as a hospital, I still find spiders that have gotten in. Luckily, I've never been bitten though.

[@spammusubi8596]

Spiders eat insects, not dirt, and insects can get in through cracks in the walls, etc. sometimes insects like to come into the house because the climate, etc, not because you’re dirty. And spiders follow the insects in

[@MarionetteDoll]

@@spammusubi8596 smh just be letting themselves in like they pay bills

[@KanishQQuotes]

Not yet

[@jwwalsh6358]

Hospitals are incredibly dirty 😅

[@non-applicable3548]

I appreciate these videos as someone who has a more than passing interest in medicine. I trust and respect you, and you illustrate perfectly why people go to school for so long to properly practice it.

[@Dolomedan]

Forreal, at 4:57 onwards it sounds like he's casting a damn spell 😂

[@kingkidtmgaming]

@@Dolomedan lol

[@chell6022]

@@Dolomedan LMAO I remember most of these enzymes and proteins but I forgot what they do specifically.

[@littlefishiesinthese]

I know this is contrary to the point of the video, but it made me remember when I went to a doctor for a suspected spider bite that was getting a bit gross looking. He said it was merely a foot fungus thing and sent me home with a topical steroid cream. 3 days later I was back with a now huge pus-filled lesion on my foot. A different doctor cut it out, and upon having a dig around in the wound (big ouch) I hear: "ah yes, I think I can even see the original fang marks from the spider here!". I live in Australia.

[@justdanie7613]

Wow, I thought they would have treated it like a spider bite originally living there

[@pintsizedchaos]

Dismissing something like that in Australia of all places is horrifying

[@jeffwolinski2659]

Thanks again for referencing Vetter's work and showing the range map. If you listen to the local tall tales, brown recluses are everywhere waiting to bite humans at every chance. So much overblown hysteria!

[@Eibarwoman]

The other thing is there's invasive species at a usually very localized level at this point like mediterrenean recluses or Chilean recluses. You'd not put a little spot at Ann Arbor where a known mediterrenean recluse population is yet on a map of US recluse species as (a it's not native and (b it's not really visible. The smallest notable range I've ever seen on a map for introduced or invasive is the edible dormouse around Tring, England which has an 18 square mile area.

[@jaredtoney3417]

please keep doing videos on this channel. I thoroughly enjoy how in depth you go. KNOWLEDGE

[@jameswhitcher6061]

Im an Australian invertabrate breeder that specialises in spiders and there arent any Loxosceles sp but we do have Latrodectus hasselti among a few highly toxic mygalamorphs such as funnelwebs and mouse spiders. there are always going to be discrepiencies on location data and mature females of any spider produce hundreds of young and are more often than not gravid to begin with, there are going to be areas where Brown recluses are common completely away from their supposed range. What I have found with huntsmen is basically anywhere over aus where the conditions are the same for a certain species, there will be more. For an example, theres a species of small huntsman spider, Beregama cordata which are common throughout the far north rainforests but the same conditions (albeit localised) of rainforest on the central east coast which these spiders thrive. It always better to look at the conditions like max and min temperature and humidity, altitude and biome.

[@Eibarwoman]

This might explain some of the invasive species spiders living in places computer models thought would be improbable (Chilean recluses in Finland and Mediterrean recluses in Michigan)

[@cornpop8586]

On the government website where I live, a state in the USA, it lists brown recluse as a spider here and we're far north of Interstate 80. With massive travel between states, as well as between countries and continents, it seems silly to me to say spiders are only in a specific area. I'm not an expert or super knowledgeable on this topic.

[@mellie4174]

Yes! Also i think that people often forget that goods and végétal materials are transported all over the place. All it takes is for one pregnant female to arrive in Michigan in summer and her and her babies will live a nice life in someone's temperature controlled home.

[@Kari1525]

Me: frantically punching all the socks in my sock drawer while my cats watch on with indifference.

[@Guts_Brando]

Hey Emu, thank you for the effort and making 2 videos, the extra explanatory videos are truly awesome.

[@HenriFaust]

You know, with all the invasive species hitching rides in shipping containers, it's possible for non-native recluse spiders to appear anywhere on the North American continent.

[@luisalbertonajeraperez5230]

Reminds me of a stupid Peppa Pig episode saying spiders were friendly. LOL

[@HenriFaust]

@@luisalbertonajeraperez5230 Recluse spiders aren't really aggressive. Just get in the habit of vigorously shaking out your clothes and shoes to check for bugs and you'll be fine. Scorpions and wasps are a lot more common.

[@jandl1jph766]

@@luisalbertonajeraperez5230 I'd say not friendly, but not hostile either. They don't "want" to waste their venom on something they can't eat, except as a last resort to try and stay alive. Their prey, on the other hand, may well be out for your blood...

[@datsuntoyy]

There has been atleast 1 case of a brazilian wandering spider hitching a ride to America in bananas and biting a worker.

[@joemars41]

Fact

[@mossydog2385]

I'm not disagreeing with anything you said on this video, just voicing my personal experience. I grew up in Tucson Arizona and studied wildlife biology, I even volunteered at the Arizona Sonora Desert Museum in the early 1970's, and I've seen LOT'S of our arachnid brethren, black widows included. As I understood it, it was impossible for them to live in certain environments. In the mid 1980's I moved to Seattle, definitely not part of their range. I saw my first wild, mature female widow in a friend's basement in 1987, I remember because it wasn't supposed to be possible. I've seen dozens since, all indoors, and many with their unique egg cases in the web, along with the dessicated bodies of the male, so there were at least 1/2 dozen breeding individuals that I saw with my own eyes and did not misidentify. During this period, a lot of people moved from the southwest to Washington State, often to Seattle. My guess is that the spider's hitched a ride, and found that, at least indoors, they could survive.

[@ryanc473]

This video causes way less fear of my own bed/socks than the chubbyemo one! Plus, I love the in-depth breakdown of the underlying biochemistry of it all.

[@TomTreutlein]

Thank you for making these videos and giving such an deep analysis and explanation of what is occurring. You are succinct, concise, clear, direct, and absolutely wonderful to listen to. I would hope that all upcoming doctors in the world took a page out of your book. Please continue to share your wisdom and knowledge with everyone.

[@keiharris332]

My ultimate fear. Once as a child I put on a shoe that had a centipede in it. It came out of my shoe when I got to class of all places. This is why I hit my shoe against a pole over and over again before putting it on. But what if I just knock the insect unconscious... and then it wakes up in the middle of me driving?! Oh no...

[@malegirlboss]

Haha I had the same experience as a child!

[@AxionSmurf]

The worst thing about this story is that he pees in the shower.

[@spartanlink_047]

I live in Arkansas and the Brown Recluse is extremely common in our area. I have seen a few of the bites, but nothing as severe as what's displayed today, though I have heard anecdotal stories of people's family members passing from Brown Recluse bites. Be mindful of your environment, keep your home and work areas clean, and check your shoes/other clothing for pests, especially during warmer months. Be safe put there guys.

[@generalprincecodyhedgewolf2944]

Im in Arkansas and I have a Very messy room and I hate Spiders so much id yell: Mom get me a lighter and colone with so much Alcohol

[@LambdaDriven]

I found myself doing laundry while watching this video. Wonder what might have triggered it

[@solarisveritatis1086]

The title reads like that of a children's bedtime story

[@tonystark8014]

Bro I am petrified of spiders, and now this is just gonna make me straight up paranoid lol

[@Bladavia]

Also for the European viewers, the European cousin of this spider, Loxoscelles Rufescens (also a small brown spider with a violin pattern on the cephallothorax) has a much weaker bite, it shouldn't develop into anything unless you live in the South of the Mediteranean bassin in a warm country, temperature tends to make the venom more potent.

[@MicroBlogganism]

Grasshoppers have wings. They can fly. That's how they got up there.

[@cbrown6508]

A high school classmate of mine died from a spider bite a few years ago. I can't remember if it was a brown recluse or black widow, but his father told me that by the time the family realized the bite was serious enough to require urgent medical care, it was too late. Even after being hospitalized he just wasn't able to recover. It was devastating for everyone who knew him, partly because it caused such a rapid decline to his health in so little time.

[@ReeveProductions]

Spiders follow food, as all good predators do. If you have spider food living in your house then your going to have spiders. If you don’t provide free food and shelter for the food, then they won’t live with you and spiders will stay out. As another note: the notorious “hobo” spider that crawls across you floor/wall/ceiling, is probably actually a male giant house spider on the hunt for the ladies. He has absolutely no interest in dining on human today and is definitely more scared of you than you are of him.

[@NotSoNormal1987]

I dunno. I got chased out of my bathroom by one in the middle of the night. It didn't stop till I hit it with a shoe.

[@no.7893]

if they are so scared of us why the fuck do they always seem to chase me?

[@datsuntoyy]

I had a 1 1/2" kukulcania hibernalis (southern house spider) living in the upper corner of my front window for a year. She had a good size web and caught a lot of flies. Freaked people out how I just let her live there. She got evicted after he had babies, lol. Termites and roaches are the only thing on the automatic death list for me.

[@datsuntoyy]

@@no.7893 They don't. Spiders, scorpions, solifugae and snakes do not chase people. Bees and wasps can.

[@no.7893]

@@datsuntoyy They do seem to run the same way I do most of the time though. perhaps not chasing to them but it is to me. I don't mind the smaller spiders that we get around the house, especially the yellow striped jumping spiders which I think are awesome little things. It's the big fuck off spiders that give me the creeps that I can't stand. The species that you mentioned in your other comment may be small and harmless and even beneficial to it's enviroment but if I saw that thing in my house I'd destroy it or die trying. I understand that most spiders are harmless and very chilled but arachnophobia gets the better of me sadly.

[@nyan0812nerd]

really love the in depth videos. certainly puts the main video in perspective :)

[@agwbcfjc2]

Another tour de force of the narrator's art. Bravo!! This is Dr. B. doing what he does best: making medical terminology accessible to lay persons not in the medical field.

[@WarDragon72345]

How dare you hit me with the Amogus.

[@mellowkidd]

What has to go wrong in your life for you to have a rock in your shoe and instead of thinking, “I should get this rock out”, you just changed the way you walk entirely.

[@TheCommuted]

I got a hobo spider in San Jose CA, bite caused necrosis. Saw the spider, mild sting. Long recovery.

[@LDuke-pc7kq]

😳 that's severe, glad you made it through

[@monkey_man70-1]

I heard California has a Hobo problem. Stay safe out there.

[@dualdragoncomics1611]

My cousin and I live in Utah she often leaves her clothes on the floor. One day she noticed a wound on her thigh. The wound wasn’t healing instead it was growing bigger and getting worse so she decided to go to the doctors. The doctor looked at the wound and told her it was a brown recluse spider bite. Of course all of us were skeptical because brown recluse spiders don’t live in Utah, do they?

[@zarek4444]

"brown recluse bites are overdiagnosed" that's just what Big Spider(tm) wants you to think

[@questgivercyradis8462]

Question! When talking to the arachnologists, instead of the medical practitioners, do they notice the spider habitats moving northward due to climate change? It does seem like something likely to occur at some point, but I don't know if it has actually been observed yet by those seeking out these types of spiders.

[@Bladavia]

I know this has been observed for many other species all round the globe but I don't know about this specific one.

[@JimmyCrackorn]

I know that the brown recluse is a skilled tagalong. Don't know who it rode with, but it's been confirmed in 10 counties of Michigan since up to 20 years ago. One tore my friend up when it got into her underwear drawer. Efforts to keep it from getting rooted have been pretty effective, fortunately. Especially in Wayne county, we get a lot of visitors from the southern states where brown recluses live. Most of our population has origin in those states. I'm thinking that's how they made it there.

[@Eibarwoman]

There's a map suggesting that Michigan's recluses are all Mediterrenean recluses, which look identical. The Mediterrenean recluse has a wider temperature tolerance range both in cold and heat. Turin in Italy has an average temperature identical to the counties in Southern Michigan year round and has the mediterrenean recluse. And it's probably even more skillful of a tagalong and stowaway than the brown recluse is given that the Mediterrenean recluse is also invasive in China.

[@JimmyCrackorn]

@@Eibarwoman Most of them could be, but Wayne county definitely got some brown recluses. We get more people from the southern states than we do from the Mediterranean, and our experts confirmed the presence. It's really troublesome with them both being there because of the uncertainty. An encounter with a brown recluse there is extremely unlikely, but it's hard to determine if the biter was a young brown recluse or an adult Mediterranean recluse. What's terrifying is the symptoms being very much like that of a brown recluse bite. At this point, they might as well be the same 😅 Talk about getting the short straw.

[@Eibarwoman]

​@@JimmyCrackorn The mediterrenean recluse's range extends a lot further east than you'd think. It goes as far west as Portugal and Morocco, but as far east as Afghanistan and right in the middle of there is some of the larger communities like Lebanese, Syrians, Chaldeans (Iraq), Palestinians, etc. Not to mention FIAT Chrysler and any of an assortment of business trips to Italy. The end result is the same, a spider you don't want to encounter.

[@JimmyCrackorn]

@@Eibarwoman That's easy to believe. There's loads and loads of movement through that region. It makes sense that it could tagalong so well. Because of it's smaller size, I consider it the more dangerous of the two. I'm happy that I moved out of Michigan 😅 I certainly don't want to encounter one of those.

[@azote339]

New fear unlocked

[@carolschneider8639]

Thanks!

[@DontstopIfIfall]

"If you live north of I-80" I live both north AND south of I-80 😭 **cries in Des Moines**

[@J0hnnyxm4s]

Chicago here - your mystery spider is very likey Achaearanea tepidariorum, also known as the common house spider. They're extremely common here, and get H U G E! But, as you say, are completely harmless.

[@jasonhughes3481]

The spiders in your apartment were probably just very well fed orb weavers. They aren't gonna hurt you, they just want your flies and mosquitoes.

[@quicksilvertaint]

I grew up in the pacific northwest where there are hobo spiders. They were thought to be venomous and dangerous back then, so we were all always worried about them! Looked it up after you talked about black widows and brown recluse being the only recognized venomous spiders in the US and sure enough the CDC stopped recognizing them as venomous in 2017.

[@ajlucky0076]

Like all spiders, they are still venomous, however, it's not potent enough to actually cause any effects

[@nocturnalsociety6781]

I can say for a certainty that brown recluse, while rare in Chicago and neighboring communities, are in fact present in the area. A family member who has lived in that area for 30 years has only ever found 1 brown recluse in their basement, so it is very rare. The more commonly found spider is the yellow sac, which can be often mistaken for the brown recluse. I have the photo my relative took of the brown recluse and can tell the difference. He threw a large book at it and sent it to its next life.

[@mellie4174]

Just fyi, i grew up in mid Michigan, a friend of ours in our church was bit by a brown recluse. He almost lost his arm. Also my father worked in heating and cooling. So he was in crawl spaces a lot. He has seen brown recluses and the state of Michigan warns people working in those spaces about their presence. They're rare. I wouldn't call them endemic, but they're there and you can get bit if you cross one.

[@werbnaright5012]

Grasshoppers fly. That's how they got to the 40th floor.

[@ace.of.space.]

if I saw a spider as big as you did in that Chicago apartment I would have moved out

[@zynkling]

I’ve never taken for granted the fact I live in New Zealand where the worst spider you could ever find is a white tail the size of a jelly bean.

[@maryprantephd6736]

Personal/performance details contribute positively in all episodes across your three channels Good to see you looking trim, healthy, Dr Bernard

[@PatriciaHinkler]

We got brown recluse spiders where I live at i don't ever check my clothes and bedsheets and covers i just put my clothes on without looking i always get into my bed

[@monkey_man70-1]

Are you still alive?

[@ds_the_rn]

Your video clip at 4:09 got me all **shudders*** But wait! Spider venom has in it hyaluronidase? I’m surprised Aesthetics hasn’t turned it in to some kind of filler. We’ll stick a neuromodulator in your scalp, but I often wonder what would happen if I just emptied the syringe down my throat. 🤔 God I hate spiders.

[@bcubed72]

BRB, I'm off to pick up my room.

[@_smerte42]

note: if you are scared of spiders please remember that spiders are more scared of you then you are scare of them

[@GKOALA7]

5:18 -- There is an error in the word you use as you speak (audio) and the Closed Caption (written) of this video. In the CC it reads "phospholipids" and what you said sounds like 'phospholytes'. Would you, please, correct the error or annotate it somehow so as to clarify which is the actual scientific terminology and facts you are disseminating to your audience? Thank you.

[@redtailarts101]

Those spiders the size of your palm live here in Washington too. They're called the giant house spider. They look like hobo spiders, except with one difference: they're way bigger

[@alexsummerRain]

I have such a fear of spiders I can't even force myself to watch this vid. I'd love to know the info but can't do it. Love your vids anyway & always, thanks ❤

[@kellybaker6353]

Spiders are also larger by the lake. Plenty of potential food sources use the Great Lakes as a breeding ground like mayflies and midges. The more food the bigger the spiders. We had some monster wolf spiders when I worked at Cedar Point because of the smorgasbord of available bugs.

[@WhiskyWombat556]

This case just reminded me of the time when I found a massive wolf spider in my tent while we were out in the field during basic at Fort Leonard Wood in Missouri. I never ran so fast or screamed so loud while getting out of that tent. I couldn’t sleep at all and that was on the 1st of the 4 days we were out there

[@fapc666]

The Wendler quote just made me lose my shit, sometimes I forget Bernard used to be a powerlifter

[@nwheatcraft]

I love unpopular takes. Thank you for posting this. I believe, like you, that the take on spiders is fear based, this causes errorneous reporting.

[@astraeanova4280]

Spiders have always spooked me terribly, but I should probably be grateful that I live in Scotland and we don't have any poisonous spiders here, at least I don't think we do?

[@JackieOwl94]

I grew up in middle-northern Georgia, and it was only made apparent that the brown recluse had migrated or had been imported into my home state after one of my camp counselors got bitten and recovered the spider after her wrist started experiencing that red, white, and blue tissue coloring. We found nests of them in different parts of the woods and burned them before they could hatch. They aren’t native to the area. Sadly, that was 20 years ago, and they’ve spread all over the state. She taught us all the importance of recovering the snake or spider that bit you if it was safe to do so, but that was before everyone had phones to take pics of the snake instead of taking it to the hospital with us.

[@RoadTo2046]

I've been bit my brown recluse several times before... They're not fun... first time started out as a rash then spreads and to a large inflamed area, then a dime sized area of necrosis within a couple hours... however, every time I've been bitten since the reaction is slightly less... My treatment for it has been soaking a rag in hydrogen peroxide and leaving it on the spot for a couple of hours... at this point, I'm pretty much immune to the little bastards. I'm in Missouri BTW. those violin backed little bastard infest everything here... lol

[@RoadTo2046]

@@pineablesoda it worked... lol if you don't like it, it's not my problem...

[@RoadTo2046]

@@pineablesoda yah, I do whatever I want. I've made it just fine... I'm not going to depend on a system that likely won't exist in a couple of years, nor do I trust this dumpster fire of a medical care system to do anything right... particularly after the last 2 years...

[@cook1ezz]

That doesn't sound like a brown recluse bite at all. Brown recluse bites don't progress to necrosis until days after the bite. It's much more likely that you are contracting some kind of bacterial infection from a non-venomous spider bite. I've been reading up on a lot of reports of hobo spider bites that cause necrosis because of an infection, not from any sort of venom. Also unfortunately, violin shaped markings on a spider's back are still not a reliable way to identify a brown recluse. While all brown recluses have that marking, plenty of other spiders can happen to have markings that look incredibly similar. It's still possible that it was a brown recluse, I just thought maybe you'd be interested in an alternative cause!

[@mellie4174]

Ok i totally hear what you are saying about the location of these spiders. But i think you forget that goods and végétal materials are transported daily for the southwest to the north. All it takes is one pregnant female to find their way into the goods and that girl and her babies will live a very nice life un your temperature controlled house. The state of Michigan warned people i. The early 2000 about them. They aren't endemic. in fact they're rare. But they are there, from time to time.

[@cgttc04]

Every mom should save this video to show their kids! Lol

[@nokiot9]

Also we have a joke among entomologists. Whenever you find a spider you shout- “ITS A BROWN RECLUSE!”

[@einantonius2595]

It would be so epic if Dr. Bernhard vlogged his days at work.

[@einantonius2595]

with chubbyemu/heme review like voice over

[@SmallAngryNerd]

dont worry, you can't make me afraid of spiders, I'm already deathly afraid of them

[@jan_sobieski444]

It’s important to remember that L. Reclusa is a frequent traveler well outside of its assumed range. The spider is very docile, timid, and, of course, reclusive. They love plastic tubs and cardboard moving boxes that are often set aside in quiet, undisturbed places. A friend who flips storage units finds a specimen at least once a month. Goodness knows how far they travel, even if they never establish themselves.

[@TRYtoHELPyou]

Black widow found here in MD. Just feet away from where my geo metro stayed parked living it's previous life of 23 years in Southern California. Two years in storage before being towed to MD (twilight zone music)

[@heychrisfox]

So fascinating. I got bit by a brown recluse here in Texas. It seemed like a normal spider bite at first. But then it went from swelling into an ugly, white ulcer on the skin. I went to a clinic and they said that a brown recluse was the likely culprit. They said I caught bite before the necrotizing had gotten "real bad," whatever that means. 😆 Either way, I got some medicine, the severe symptoms went away in a few days, and the bite turned into a scar after a few months. And now I want to escape from Texas, because screw getting bit by one of those things again.

[@tinygrim]

Where is this man? He's been mia the last 8 months. Its so odd & confusing. Such loss . I'm hypobummed. 😢

[@informanti]

There are definitely brown recluse spiders here in Jacksonville FL and are fairly common.

[@basedbalaclavaman7011]

The first and only time I came in contact with a brown recluse was on a mission trip in one of the southern states. We were working under a trailer and when I turned to reach for a tool I saw a creepy crawly prowling around. Makes me glad I live up in Pennsylvania

[@josheliwa2381]

7:08 OH MY GOD NO WAY AN AMONG US JOKE

[@JenniferannGendron]

In the south we are taught early on to shake out every and any shoe before putting it on!!!! Lol But I would like clarification please …. I was taught in trauma nursing specific for Louisiana (in 2003) that all spiders are venomous however in the US only 2 indigenous spiders (widow & recluse)are able to inject venom into the subcutaneous layers to warrant emergency treatment. Is this still true? out of date? Just wondering b/c I no longer work as a RN. AND…..Thanks and I JUST LOVe your videos ……the nitty gritty detail and the way you explain the scientific principles down to the chemistry and physics . Great JOB. You are an amazing teacher, a talent not all geniuses like you are blessed to have. (Just because a Dr or RN are super smart, this does not necessarily make them a great mentor or teacher!!!! 🥳

[@ajlucky0076]

All spiders are venomous, but only two families of spiders in the United States have enough potent venom to hurt you. These are: the true widow spiders, and the recluse family. Most spiders can't even break skin, but those who can don't really have potent venom. Even if you get bit by one of the two I mentioned, you'll be fine. People will get bit by a widow and go on with their day and be completely fine. Hospitalizations can happen but no one has actually died from a confirmed widow in the US. The danger with recluses' isn't even really their venom, but the infections that can occur with carelessness or just not even noticing the bite. Of course if you get bitten by one of these you should go to the hospital just to be safe.

[@nokiot9]

I was bitten by a black widow as a child. Paralyzed me from the waist down, projectile vomiting for like 4 hours, and they knocked me out with ketamine I guess. I don’t remember any of it.

[@sleepysmt]

i own three spiders but i live right along I32 on the bluff of the mississippi and because i have very severe mental illness i too live in a room covered in mixed clothes and i even somewhat frequently find these spiders in my house and gently put them outside and basically despite dearly loving spiders like a psycho i am absolutely petrified of my bedroom right now, thank you!

[@johnnyvasquez6820]

Hello doctor, I am from Colombia but I watch your videos on your Spanish channel, I am not very aware of medical procedures and medicine in general but I love watching your videos and your way of explaining, you are a CRACK Doc, blessings and greetings 🫶🏻

[@toomanyspreedsheets9802]

Theres actually a great vid about Brown Recluses by Travis McEnery who has a series about "The Spiders in Your House". I think it really gives an insight not only into the spider, but also where they live (low) and the map you show'd, but also how least likely it is to actually get bitten by one--the 2k Brown Recluses found in the home where no-one was bitten by one. There's also lots of other info about the Brown Recluse, its an hour long, but really good insight from collaberations fo spider scientists.

[@maggiearensberg9384]

I live in Missouri and I have never lived in a house or apartment without brown recluses. I have also never been bit or had one on me. They are called recluses for a reason, they tend to hide and only come out late at night. If you are generally clean and have your home/apartment treated for bugs on a regular basis they most likely won’t be an issue for you.

[@AngelWings144K]

People move across the country all the time, and they often bring unwanted passengers along with them. It is NOT unreasonable to think that a person from the south brought a brown recluse or two north, and that the spider found a hospitable home there. Sometimes, people bring dangerous animals with them as cool pets. I lived in Green Bay, WI and my friend had a collection of black widows! Don't sit there doubting the possibility. I'm SURE there are circumstances where some dangerous spiders are in the north, due to humans.

[@darkstarr984]

I am in the far northeast corner of the brown recluse’s range and can say I have never seen one. I’ve seen masses of grass spiders, wolf spiders, crab spiders, jumping spiders, cellar spiders, castleback spiders, and one time saw a black widow (my one brother has seen lots of them). Never saw a brown recluse. People around me tend to panic over cellar spiders and grass spiders being brown recluses because they’re large, brown, and have markings (tan jumpers are itty bitty little things that I often pick up in my yard), but neither has anything fiddle-like on their abdomen.

[@thedoors1388]

I have not seen any comments on this or the main Chubbyemu video from someone like me who lives with brown recluses and has been bitten by one. I was sitting at my computer desk one summer evening a few years ago. I felt something coming up my leg, under my pants. My immediate thought was that it was a tick, since I had been outside in the yard earlier. So, I pressed down on the spot where it was, keeping it in place so I could roll up my pants leg and remove it. It was not a tick, though; it was a brown recluse that I jabbed into my own leg. I was a little concerned since, though I am relatively well-read about spiders and the natural world, in general, I had never been bitten by a venomous spider before. But I am not the type to rush to a doctor or emergency room, despite the fear-mongering I saw online on various sites saying that my leg was basically going to rot off due to necrosis, if I did not die from the spider's venom first. Luckily, Dr. Rick Vetter's brown recluse site appeared relatively high in the search results, with its advice to apply ice to the bite, elevate the area, and avoid introducing any bacteria to the bite by scratching the damaged tissue. That last part is key, since my bite started itching several hours later. I avoided scratching my bite by wearing thick pants, even while sleeping. Although a small, slightly sunken, red circle appeared on my leg, I did not experience any necrosis or other signs of loxoscelism. Within about ten days, the red lesion disappeared. Has my bite or any of the horror stories online changed how I deal with brown recluse spiders? No. I have had hundreds of sightings of brown recluse spiders in my house since I moved into it nearly a decade ago. They are just a presence that I can expect to see regularly. I could try and get rid of them, but my neighborhood in North Alabama is an old one, filled with historic houses, and is well known in the area for having a high concentration of brown recluses. Having spent some time in my neighbor's basement woodworking shop, I can say that he has more of them than I do. So, if I managed to rid my house of my brown recluses, more would just come over from the neighbors' houses to take their place. Spiders, even venomous ones, are not something to be afraid of or act irrationally about. P.S. The spider in your Chicago high-rise photo looks like some sort of orb weaver. They get big and make large webs. The eaves of my house are filled with them in late summer, though if houses and high-rises were not around, their webs would be up in trees. They do not stay suspended in their web during the day; if they did, birds would eat them. You can find them hiding nearby in a crevice or other hiding spot.

[@profzoidbourgeoisie3540]

At least he was putting the sock on his foot.

[@PeterSvP]

7:09 EMERGENCY MEETING PLEASE

[@latonyanewsome0]

Make sure you vacuum, dust, throw out trash, and wash dishes as well because the spiders are attracted to these bugs.

[@BlackOwl136]

Would there be any difference in symptoms or a higher risk if the patient already had an underlying blood disorder such as Thalassemia or other types of anemia?

[@hambelperhurger5049]

"on every continent except Asia..." you're telling me there's snow spiders in Antarctica?

[@FrostyTheSnowMage]

Here in Chicago i have seen some brown recluses. It's not super common but it is above I-80. That is an invisible line that can be crossed

[@noob19087]

I don't mind spiders. I consider having a spider in the house a blessing, since they take care of other bugs.

[@ortizma13]

In the Chubby Emu video you mentioned there are only two US spiders that are venomous. All spiders are venomous, but not all bite humans or have fangs long enough to penetrate skin. Their venom is used to digest their food.

[@donnahaynes138]

I heard of a similar story but it was a black widow spider inside of his sock instead. Luckily the boy survived

[@tylerb2644]

If you keep the area clean and covered a recluse bite is usually nothing to worry about, and should heal on its own. As far as the symptoms go a widow is much worse, but you should be fine. While these spiders can’t kill you, the possible infections can without treatment. That goes for all spider bites including wolf spiders, house spiders or hobo spiders which are often the real culprits of alleged recluse bites.

[@stiepanholkien605]

These vids are way better than the ones made with the silly voice. I got bitten by a spider once on the ankle bone, it produced a hard bump that stayed there for years.

[@stephanginther9051]

My dad got bit by a violin spider I believe it was. It wasn't noticed in time and the doctor told him he'd lose his finger. A native American coworker of his gave him a cream that he said was a remedy from his tribe. My dad used it and while they did have to remove one of the small muscles on the side of his finger, he still HAS that finger. The muscle they removed was also a minor stabilizer muscle so losing it did not significantly effect the movement of that finger. I guess the guy quit like, the next day or something so my dad didn't even get to thank him properly.