The Broken Dark Phoenix X-Men Timeline

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The X-Men Dark Phoenix trailer confirmed one thing to us all. The X-Men timeline is an absolutely dumpster fire. So let's get into some of the biggest continuity blunders from X-Men, X-Men 2, X-Men, The Last Stand, Wolverine Origins, X-Men First Class, The Wolverine, Days Of Future Past, Apocalypse
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@InverseAgonist
@InverseAgonist 5 жыл бұрын
"They both met when they were 35 and then they stayed 35 for 40 years and then they were 75"
@thejabail
@thejabail 5 жыл бұрын
InverseAgonist the second this happened I scrolled down to the comments and found this
@jbrisby
@jbrisby 5 жыл бұрын
So basically the same as the comics.
@FanboyFilms
@FanboyFilms 5 жыл бұрын
@@jbrisby Exactly, finally a movie series that follows the source material! In 40 years they only age 5 years, that's a comic trope that isn't represented well enough in the movies.
@THIZZAVELI
@THIZZAVELI 5 жыл бұрын
@FanboyFilms And that's pretty much the only thing they got right from the comics lol.
@giladfadel5920
@giladfadel5920 5 жыл бұрын
Those anti aging creams must be hella good to keep u 35 for 40 years..
@dimitreze
@dimitreze 5 жыл бұрын
in Last Stand, Charles and Magneto visit a child Jean Grey in 1987 but in Apocalypse she is a full grown teenager in the 80's
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
Different timelines.
@eliastzouliou3024
@eliastzouliou3024 5 жыл бұрын
Erastus Mwandingi you keep on spamming the same shit without actually giving an answer.
@mo_munir3474
@mo_munir3474 5 жыл бұрын
@@Heru_Iluvatar SHUT THE FUCK UPP
@christophercarlisle7887
@christophercarlisle7887 5 жыл бұрын
Think of it as like a butterfly effect, Logans presence in his younger self was sending a rift through time causing a universal shift changing the history of the world he was originally from in to something completely different, basically him stopping mystique from killing the wee dwarf guy, fuck if I can remember his name... altered history and made a completely different reality.
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
@Elias Tzouliou, an answer to what? The question is irrelevant to begin with. The timeline in the X-men films are simple to understand. If you want to see a fucked up timeline with jarring inconsistencies go buy one of the current X-men comics Marvel is publishing.
@ericstaples7220
@ericstaples7220 5 жыл бұрын
This is all easily explained by Professor X faking being a cripple for sympathy.
@jannesakkinen4631
@jannesakkinen4631 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, so Prof X- just "Gypsy Rose'd" us?
@travisspeer3151
@travisspeer3151 3 жыл бұрын
Lol thats funny
@naranara1690
@naranara1690 5 жыл бұрын
I have a theory After Shaw died in First Class, his de-aging powers dispersed and randomly affected everyone
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 5 жыл бұрын
First Class mentioned that Mystique's shapeshifting abilities make her age slower than any normal person (even if she were 75, she'll still have the body of a teenage girl). Beast ended up inheriting her de-aging ability when he used her blood to create a cure for his mutation. Xavier's serum that helped him walk again had side effects like rapid aging and hair loss (it's why he already looks like Patrick Stewart in the X3 flashback scene and Wolverine Origins). When Wolverine convinced him to stop taking the serum in Days of Future Past, then Xavier doesn't age that much anymore so he remained looking like James McAvoy in Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix. Lastly, in the comic books, Magneto used the earth's magnetic fields to regenerate his body which allowed him to stay young. Ergo, how Magneto stayed young in the movies.
@naranara1690
@naranara1690 5 жыл бұрын
@@loudboy317 No, it was magical Kevin Bacon powers. Shh.
@darksaint0124
@darksaint0124 5 жыл бұрын
@loudboy did you just try to gloss over Magneto comics weirdness? Dude got turned into a baby. Also, in comics, Mystique is way older than Wolverine.
@CLrooks
@CLrooks 5 жыл бұрын
dumb
@ProxyGaming.
@ProxyGaming. 5 жыл бұрын
@@loudboy317 woah
@arghjayem
@arghjayem 5 жыл бұрын
The only useful thing about all the timeline and continuity errors within the “x men film universe”, is it gives Deadpool something funny to point out in his films!
@bouncycastle955
@bouncycastle955 5 жыл бұрын
"funny"
@Dawsxon
@Dawsxon 5 жыл бұрын
And he also gets to point at his balls
@ezekielglenn6155
@ezekielglenn6155 5 жыл бұрын
TDF is not a remake in regards to the story it's self because that x3 timeline was erased but it TDF story was destined to happen anyways!Just a bit different this time!
@The_Viktor_Reznov
@The_Viktor_Reznov 5 жыл бұрын
What's funny is that X-Men cameo Easter Egg in Deadpool 2. Because it is in 2018 (or at least about nowadays) but the X-Men still look like from 1980s.
@williano57
@williano57 5 жыл бұрын
Brand new comic book themed music video apperences from SPIDER MAN BATMAN AND SUPERMAN BLACK PANTHER STRANGE GHOST RIDER ECT kzbin.info/www/bejne/iV6me6KZnrKLmdk
@mcmistle9892
@mcmistle9892 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this timeline is more broken than Michael Joseph Jackson’s dream of being Spider-Man.
@sirdesqwee3790
@sirdesqwee3790 5 жыл бұрын
Its more broken than my gradessss.....
@Nealrex101
@Nealrex101 5 жыл бұрын
McMistle I’d say it’s more broken than Prof. X’s spins but even that isn’t reliable
@embird7864
@embird7864 5 жыл бұрын
Mat Garro Nah he’s still capable of spinning in the wheelchair. Some would even say that he’s more capable of spinning when in the wheelchair.
@mcmistle9892
@mcmistle9892 5 жыл бұрын
Embird sometimes when he’s alone in the mansion, he’ll do donuts on the floor, only to fall out of his wheelchair, and cry for a few hours until the X-Men come home to pick him up
@bartistclord1916
@bartistclord1916 5 жыл бұрын
At least he got to live the dream of being born a Black Boy, growing up to become a white woman.
@t.d.writer1589
@t.d.writer1589 5 жыл бұрын
At some point of this vid, I didn't know what you were talking about anymore. I thought I knew these films.
@olavihekandjo2928
@olavihekandjo2928 5 жыл бұрын
Thry mixed up timeliness. Everything before days of future past does not exist and we should assume a Flashpoint paradox situation were things that didn't happen in the original timeline will now happen.
@AmiAki
@AmiAki 5 жыл бұрын
Same
@gabi-chan7806
@gabi-chan7806 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not even sure if I watched any of these movies
@sammoshi3842
@sammoshi3842 5 жыл бұрын
Also, in apocalypse it seems like Magneto didn't know Quicksilver even though he broke him out of prison
@ferch0td
@ferch0td 5 жыл бұрын
I swear I hadnt noticed that lol
@dejulien
@dejulien 5 жыл бұрын
Timeline so messed up they start to forget each other lol
@FanboyFilms
@FanboyFilms 5 жыл бұрын
In Apocalypse the only reason Quicksilver comes on the mission is to tell Magneto that they are related, and when they finally meet, he doesn't.
@campbelllarocco5721
@campbelllarocco5721 5 жыл бұрын
Sam Moshi no he knew him just didn't know he was his son
@MegaRayland
@MegaRayland 5 жыл бұрын
FanboyFilms The only reason Quicksilver is in Apocalypse at all is because he was part of the only memorable scene everyone liked from Days of Future Past.
@swimmingagainsttheti
@swimmingagainsttheti 5 жыл бұрын
I always perceived Prof X's "resurrection as: (A) he store his mind in the comatosed body that's just a guy not his twin. (B) they find a mutant who is able to reconstruct his body. He says to Logan "as I told you long ago your not the only one wiht gifts". (C) he transfers his mind back into his "new" body. Why is the body still paralysed? Because he wants the disabled parking spots.
@92brunod
@92brunod 5 жыл бұрын
@loudboy317 What? Wrong thread I assume
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 5 жыл бұрын
@@92brunod Sorry, I didn't notice.
@xanderm6090
@xanderm6090 5 жыл бұрын
So basically X-Men: The Last Stand and The Wolverine make Charles into a dick who wants to steal people's parking spaces for himself.
@uglyguy2519
@uglyguy2519 5 жыл бұрын
That last bit got me, I'll give you that.
@muhaiminzulkarnain5628
@muhaiminzulkarnain5628 5 жыл бұрын
Walking just takes so much effort.
@error_ale9826
@error_ale9826 5 жыл бұрын
Michael Fassbender, played by magneto. 😂😂😂
@gnowledge3705
@gnowledge3705 5 жыл бұрын
Magneto doesn’t get played.
@Kwitzy
@Kwitzy 5 жыл бұрын
@@gnowledge3705 r/whoosh
@gnowledge3705
@gnowledge3705 5 жыл бұрын
Kwitzy ditto 😂😂
@Kwitzy
@Kwitzy 5 жыл бұрын
@@gnowledge3705 should we kiss now?
@anubusx
@anubusx 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody plays Magneto. He plays you.
@skrrskrr
@skrrskrr 5 жыл бұрын
The timeline wouldn't be so convoluted if they didn't use the same character in different places in time.
@dscott9571
@dscott9571 3 жыл бұрын
The one that always stood out to me was Cerebro. In X1, Charles said he doesn't know why he can't find Magneto because he's found a way to block Cerebro and knows how to cos he helped Charles build it. The in First Class, Magneto gets his helmet from some dude and Cerebro is built by Beast before he met Charles. HUH WHAT?!!!
@brucesimmons5517
@brucesimmons5517 Жыл бұрын
That's because I think First Class was supposed to be a reboot at first, not prequel.
@conserztasfia0078
@conserztasfia0078 Жыл бұрын
The soviets built that helmet
@jakipop3397
@jakipop3397 5 жыл бұрын
I am fully aware Im a nerd and that nobody cares BUT there actually IS a mutant who does mutant plastic surgery. His names Masque.
@FetishEwing
@FetishEwing 5 жыл бұрын
He's a Morlock. Yeah, I know all about Masque, haha. I don't consider myself a nerd, though.
@ilznidiotic
@ilznidiotic 5 жыл бұрын
Beat me to it.
@camrnjurena
@camrnjurena 5 жыл бұрын
Came down to the comments to say the same thing. I remember him morphing the Power Packs faces so some Morlock friend of his could keep them as their own children. Of course Calisto didn't know this was going on. She had already been beaten by Storm. I read that like a few weeks ago I think.
@patrickparadis9038
@patrickparadis9038 5 жыл бұрын
yeh, but he's ugly. ...cursed, his powers don't work on himself! nyooo!
@SherrBear867
@SherrBear867 5 жыл бұрын
Wow you’re a nerd, nobody cares
@brettpgh3312
@brettpgh3312 5 жыл бұрын
They didn't have to set the timelines decades apart. That's the problem. So now Quicksilver has gone from 17 to 37, looks the exact same. What's happened to the X-Men in those years? Who knows. They should have had a bunch of adventures we'd love to see, we won't. Kill it all with fire.
@Jmgjgdjd5
@Jmgjgdjd5 5 жыл бұрын
and still lives at his mom's
@TimThomason
@TimThomason 5 жыл бұрын
Even worse, 37-year-old Quicksilver (1993) looks exactly the same as 62-year-old Quicksilver in Deadpool 2 (2018), as well as the entire X-Men cast from Dark Phoenix in their cameo (Xavier, Beast, Cyclops, Nightcrawler). According to my calculations, McAvoy is playing an 88-year-old man.
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 5 жыл бұрын
Actually, Dark Phoenix is set in 1992 and Quicksilver is 36 in the film. Evan Peters was born in 1987 which makes him 31 years old. There's only a 5 year age difference.
@TimThomason
@TimThomason 5 жыл бұрын
@@loudboy317 And Nicholas Hoult is younger, born in late 1989. He's a 28-year-old playing someone who's in his early fifties at best.
@TimThomason
@TimThomason 5 жыл бұрын
Granted, we can concede that Beast's serum makes him younger, Xavier is doing a psychic projection, Mystique is shapeshifting younger, and maybe Quicksilver has some sort of anti-aging power since by all accounts he should be older looking than he actually is (he's a speedster who wastes lots of time hanging out in faster speeds). But Magneto must really work out. He doesn't look like any of the Holocaust survivors I've seen in the 1990s.
@mintpalmer
@mintpalmer 4 жыл бұрын
How about Trask being Peter Dinklage and growing up to be Bill Duke? He changes both race and height pretty significantly.
@directorforplastic7929
@directorforplastic7929 2 жыл бұрын
TBF, I don’t think the Bill Duke Trask was the same character. In the OG timeline, Mystique killed Bolivar Trask so the Trask in the Last stand was just a character with the same last name.
@heorap
@heorap Жыл бұрын
In the same vein, we're supposed to believe that Stifler grows up to be Danny Huston who further grows up to be Bryan Cox.
@judeconnor-macintyre9874
@judeconnor-macintyre9874 6 ай бұрын
And then grew up to be Logan Roy.
@POLYROYAL
@POLYROYAL 5 жыл бұрын
Not even Captain America can fix this timeline 😭
@TheLeemaVids
@TheLeemaVids 5 жыл бұрын
what about Flash? He's the timeline guy
@SFord-ts9dl
@SFord-ts9dl 5 жыл бұрын
Betya his ass can
@mr.babatunde692
@mr.babatunde692 5 жыл бұрын
@@SFord-ts9dl *His American Ass Can**
@ooitung95
@ooitung95 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheLeemaVids not the CW flash tho, knowing him I think he'll mess it up more
@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler
@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler 5 жыл бұрын
I bet Captain Marvel can fix that.
@FEARisCOLD
@FEARisCOLD 5 жыл бұрын
Days of future past would have been the perfect ending to the series.
@blyzer7373
@blyzer7373 5 жыл бұрын
Logan*
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
Logan is the ending. First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan
@RJCXDOfficial
@RJCXDOfficial 5 жыл бұрын
It's what I always end my marathons with. Dofp then logan
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 5 жыл бұрын
Logan haven't happen yet it set in 2029
@grobanworldnews4216
@grobanworldnews4216 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. DOFP should have ended both the prequels and the original cast. A happy ending for everyone.
@redfox1366
@redfox1366 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, I thought this was gonna be a video on how broken the RELEASE timeline for this movie is. My bad.
@r520jr8
@r520jr8 5 жыл бұрын
Your comment made my day for some reason
@krylancelo23
@krylancelo23 5 жыл бұрын
Gottem
@fishnetmagnet
@fishnetmagnet 5 жыл бұрын
It's easier to put them in their own separate timelines/universes: Origins Wolverine-X1, 2, & 3, The Wolverine, Logan are one timeline First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix are a separate new timeline. Deadpool & DP2 make up a third separate timeline
@wandersongabriel4423
@wandersongabriel4423 5 жыл бұрын
Logan set in second timeline Xmen First class X men Dofp(Bolivar Trask survived) Apocalypse Dark phoenix X men 1 Dofp(new future) Logan
@alfonsopayan09
@alfonsopayan09 5 жыл бұрын
So Charles died in X3 but days future past alive to pick up Wolverine? 🤔
@politerudeboi6898
@politerudeboi6898 5 жыл бұрын
@@wandersongabriel4423 that would work
@mallman23
@mallman23 5 жыл бұрын
The DP movies are in the first class timeline
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 3 жыл бұрын
Well actually Logan is in the second timeline.
@MrMoustacheNinja
@MrMoustacheNinja 5 жыл бұрын
They met at 35, were 35 for 40 years, then were 75 😂😂😂😂 I lost it there lmao
@dimitreze
@dimitreze 5 жыл бұрын
James Mangold said in an interview that they didn't even know that there was going to be a Caliban on X-Men: Apocalypse
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 5 жыл бұрын
He both actors were good in the movies
@battleangel8903
@battleangel8903 5 жыл бұрын
The cost of the lack of communication. It's such a weirdly specific choice of character, a minor one at that, must have been a hell of a coincidence.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 5 жыл бұрын
@@battleangel8903 Thing is, it wasn't really a cost. They're pretty crap at doing a cinematic universe, but they're usually good at putting out these movies.
@battleangel8903
@battleangel8903 5 жыл бұрын
They had leeway with Caliban, since only those who looked into it would really question it, and that's one of the more tame examples. To be honest, they're good movies, but poor X-men movies, and this doesn't even address the timeline's problems. It's hard to ask the audience to invest in characters for the long run if they're going to be completely different in the next entry. This is the reason many more out there can list the MCU Avengers roster than really a single Fox X-men character outside of the Deadpool franchise and of course, Wolverine.
@jamesoblivion
@jamesoblivion 5 жыл бұрын
Can one really argue that Logan is bad because it uses Caliban without realizing Apocalypse used him? Logan is a bad movie...that's the premise? Sorry, no. Mangold didn't have to pay attention to what Singer did in Apocalypse...he was busy making one of the best movies of its kind.
@HouseholdWheel
@HouseholdWheel 5 жыл бұрын
just make it more complicated by adding X-Men into the MCU *without* a reboot
@92brunod
@92brunod 5 жыл бұрын
There will obviously be a reboot not only for that. Without Hugh Jackman's Wolverine the only reason to not reboot is to keep the only 2 good characters that are Fassbender's Magneto and McAvoy's Xavier. All the others characters, actors and storylines are totally disposable and not worth keeping.
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
Different Timelines/Cannons ------------------------------------------------ 1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand. 1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
@jermaineayivoh8263
@jermaineayivoh8263 5 жыл бұрын
Oh there will be a reboot you can bet your house in that. There is literally nothing worth keeping from Fox's. so called cinematic universe, even if McAvoy and Fassbender are great actors, I'm sure Marvel will want to start from scratch...
@emilio556
@emilio556 5 жыл бұрын
92brunod i loved x-men quicksilver :)
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT IS THERE NOT TO GET. TWO SEPARATE CANNONS REPRESENTED BY TWO TIMELINES, TIMELINE 1 WHICH WHICH REPRESENTS CANNON 1 IS NOT CANNON TO TIMELINE 2, EVEN AS A PREVIOUS TIMELINE, IT ISN'T CANNON TO TIMELINE 2. TIMELINE 2 REPRESENTS CANNON 2. New Cannon 2 -------------------------- 1960s=First Class 1970s=Days of Future Past 1980s=Apocalypse 1990s=Dark Phoenix 2020s=Logan -As for Charles and Erik's age, in this new timeline the earliest version of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen's version of the characters is in Days of Future Past which takes place in the 2020s, that gives James McAvoy and Michael Fassbender a 30 year gap to age into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen's version of the characters. In the old cannon, they looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s.
@kingartemiz2xxx786
@kingartemiz2xxx786 5 жыл бұрын
Main takeaway from this: F**k continuity in the X-Men films, because a few different directors had screwed everything up, when they undertook the projects.
@stabbityjoe7588
@stabbityjoe7588 5 жыл бұрын
funnily enough the two best xmen movies logan and dofp are the two most fucked in terms of their timeline
@hadzicrae5364
@hadzicrae5364 5 жыл бұрын
4:47 Was wondering how I missed Ant-Man being in the X-Men universe
@masterblaster2053
@masterblaster2053 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't even notice that until I read your comment, I've been laughing by myself like a moron for 5 minutes. Not only Magneto apparently plays Michael Fassbender in this universe but also Hank McCoy somehow morphs into Hank Pym. Sweet.
@caseytodd7632
@caseytodd7632 5 жыл бұрын
"If there is anyone who can fix this timeline..." I know of one guy who has very well managed a cinematic superhero universe for a little over 10 years now.... he may or may not have the rights to the X-Men soon....
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
Hard reboot and some infinity stones is what it's gonna take.
@caseytodd7632
@caseytodd7632 5 жыл бұрын
@@josharntt Bingo. Can we go over to Fox studios and snap?
@davidscovell646
@davidscovell646 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly I can see there being some time travel thing in avengers 4 which will have an effect that causes the mutant gene to be present in the present day. That or some event which activates a bunch of dormant mutant genes, but i feel like thats far more limiting. Plus a time reboot would allow them to fix the few comtinuity errors in the MCU
@-ladiesman2173
@-ladiesman2173 5 жыл бұрын
Kevin the man
@caseytodd7632
@caseytodd7632 5 жыл бұрын
@@-ladiesman2173 Thats Lord Feige to us pleebs.
@pepsoflexo
@pepsoflexo 5 жыл бұрын
how did Bolivar Trask go from a 3 1/2 foot white man into a 5 10 black man over the course of 40 years? 🤔
@mhaughton821
@mhaughton821 5 жыл бұрын
Ask Michael Jackson
@ajfiggz3707
@ajfiggz3707 5 жыл бұрын
Fucking magic, dude.
@imbatman8472
@imbatman8472 5 жыл бұрын
don't be transracial
@DRGIZMO29
@DRGIZMO29 5 жыл бұрын
He grew
@thenumbersguy634
@thenumbersguy634 5 жыл бұрын
Loophole. It wasn't the same person. The black guy from The Last Stand was just called "Trask".
@BATCHARRO
@BATCHARRO 5 жыл бұрын
In Wolverine: The one with Ninjas, he gets some of the adamantium claws chopped off, so he shouldn't have them in X-Men Days of Future Past's Future. ALSO, Magneto WAS also depowered in X3, which even though they hinted he could get out of it it got resolved offscreen before his little meeting with in the Airport. Also this is less of a timeline thing but Mistique fucking poisons Xavier in X-Men 1. It's weird that she would not just poison him with a potentially lethal liquid, but also get a sick kick out of it because at some point she stopped being a talkative Jennifer Lawrence and became a silent sadistic Rebecca Romijin Stamos. AND WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED WITH SABERTOOTH?
@woodfiredpizza5164
@woodfiredpizza5164 5 жыл бұрын
There’s an End Credit in X3 where Magneto moves a chess piece with his powers Also THE SABRETOOTH ANNOYS ME SM
@undisclosedidentity9893
@undisclosedidentity9893 5 жыл бұрын
He had magneto as a teammate in X-Men Days of Future Past. He likely gave him back his adamantium claws
@rowantritton8659
@rowantritton8659 5 жыл бұрын
Also Rogue regained her powers in time for the Rogue Cut
@Kremmen2001
@Kremmen2001 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe Beast is handy with a Mig welder?
@somebuddyX
@somebuddyX 5 жыл бұрын
There might be two sabertooths: sabertooth and victor creed might be different blokes. same with angel from apocalypse and warren worthington from the last stand, jubilee in 1980s and 2000s, emma frost in first class and emma silverfox in origins, peter dinklage's bolivar trask and bill duke's trask, kevin bacon's sebastian shaw and charles siegel's shaw from X2. different versions of the same character's who were intended to be the legit version until another version popped up in a later film.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 5 жыл бұрын
“They replaced the old timeline with a new timeline and then ruined that timeline.” So Mortal Kombat since 2011.
@Datttsnake
@Datttsnake 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly I like the new trilogy abit better
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 3 жыл бұрын
@@Datttsnake You're free to have that opinion, but it is not one I share.
@Cdr2002
@Cdr2002 3 жыл бұрын
@@Datttsnake And actually, I don't consider the current timeline entirely unsalvageable, I even tried to fix it with my fanfiction, Mortal Kombat Requiem: www.fanfiction.net/s/13487521/1/Mortal-Kombat-Requiem
@Datttsnake
@Datttsnake 3 жыл бұрын
@@Cdr2002 My whole point was the new Timeline is better. The fact they brought back the OG Shang Tsung from the movies meant alot, and how they ended MK11 is exciting to me.
@DADRB0B55
@DADRB0B55 3 жыл бұрын
@@Datttsnake Shang is great and the story of the Netherrealm MKs are very entertaining but they are basically identical to the post FOP X-Men movies in the sense that they start off with so much potential cleaning up all of the crap of the old timelines, and then just like with X-Men Apocalypse/MK 10 had to screw things up. Very entertaining, Screw basic continuity right? Shao Kahn got Neutered, Kitana got absurdly buffed lore wise. I’m pretty sure you’ve heard all the genuine criticisms about both the X-Men movies and the later Mortal Kombat games so I’m not gonna waste your time saying things that probably been said but The full potential that both series whether it was the old timeline or the new one was never fully realized and It would’ve been very VERY easy to have made them better. Whether it’s Apocalypse or MK 10 they are fun but could have been way better to the point where it’s disappointing IMO
@spaz1002
@spaz1002 5 жыл бұрын
Also, at the end of Apocalypse, all the kids are standing in the danger room in their comic book outfits. Yet, in the trailer for Dark Phoenix, they are back to wearing matching jumpsuits.
@SpecificallyDanielSwan
@SpecificallyDanielSwan 5 жыл бұрын
I forgot about this! Such a shame. The shot of them in their awesome outfits was by far my favourite thing in that movie. I got really excited for the next one, because apparently I don't learn.
@Bluestomiv
@Bluestomiv 5 жыл бұрын
I think that is just an Easter egg at the end. Like at the end of the wolverine the Japanese girl gives Logan the yellow wolverine costume. It's just an Easter egg.
@JayKimDotNet
@JayKimDotNet 5 жыл бұрын
I like what the film Logan did where all this media (comics, movies) are Hollywood interpretations of the actual events and vary drastically and often get their facts wrong or exaggerated. It's not consistent because everyone remembers the events differently or they've gone on to legend and thus completely departed from what actually transpired so who was where and when get kinda fuzzy.
@zippoboyshaneshank8954
@zippoboyshaneshank8954 5 жыл бұрын
The comic book gimmick.was a stroke of genius in Logan. It did a much better job explaining things than Days of Future Past did.
@ThreadBomb
@ThreadBomb 5 жыл бұрын
So all the previous X-Men movies are comic book stories from the Logan universe?
@benf2682
@benf2682 5 жыл бұрын
I was hoping we would get a movie about the professor x incident that was hinted in logan.
@AustinNGrayson
@AustinNGrayson 5 жыл бұрын
Jay Kim I guess you didn’t get that scene then. It wasn’t referring to the actual movies because a lot of those are canon in the Logan universe. Presumably aspects of Origins, First Class, the ending of DOFP, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, presumably X-Men, presumably X2 besides the part where Jean “dies”, maybe aspects of The Wolverine, and the end of DOFP are all canon in the Logan universe.
@AustinNGrayson
@AustinNGrayson 5 жыл бұрын
Thread Bomb No. Presumably aspects of Origins, First Class, the ending of DOFP, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, presumably X-Men, presumably X2 besides the part where Jean “dies”, maybe aspects of The Wolverine, and the end of DOFP are all canon in the Logan universe.
@under_score3829
@under_score3829 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe when Kitty Pryde sent Wolverine's consciousness back in time and it snapped back, it dislodged some other people in their own lifespans. Wade Wilson was pushed from being born in the 50s to being born in the 80s. Jean Grey was pushed from being born in the 70s to being born in the 60s, and so on.
@minjod
@minjod 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you left the best X-Men movie "Logan" alone.
@epicbruhmoment6985
@epicbruhmoment6985 4 жыл бұрын
It kind of takes place in its own alternate universe so it doesn't really hurt anything.
@Brook11223
@Brook11223 5 жыл бұрын
Continuity Smontinuity is what X-Films are all about.
@k-dawgwestmore4643
@k-dawgwestmore4643 5 жыл бұрын
Raghu Seetharaman Isn’t that what John Campea used to say?
@xgray2012
@xgray2012 5 жыл бұрын
True, true.
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
The original trilogy doesn't take place in this new canon. In the old cannon, Charles and Erik looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s as seen in Wolverine Origins and The Last Stand. In this new timeline/cannon they still age into the older actors but much later, the earliest version of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen we have seen in the new cannon was in Days of Future Past which took place in the 2020s, that gives James McCovey and Michael Fassbender 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
@Serprizebuttsecks
@Serprizebuttsecks 5 жыл бұрын
The one and only time I'll ever agree with this bot account!
@jacemachine
@jacemachine 5 жыл бұрын
The X-Files Movies are the best!
@woebegone_kenobi
@woebegone_kenobi 5 жыл бұрын
I dont know if its Kelsey Grammer's face or what, but his Beast has always looked perfect. Whereas-- and I love Nicholas Hoult so don't @ me--Nicholas Hoult always looks ridiculous in the makeup. Just embarrassing compared to Grammer.
@adoniscreed4031
@adoniscreed4031 5 жыл бұрын
It's definitely his face... It's too perfect for the character 😂😂😂😂
@stanhenderson9928
@stanhenderson9928 5 жыл бұрын
Yea I agree, he was born to play Beast, too bad they never let him have a significant part in any movies, beyond the worst movie. I wish they would have just stole the animated series scripts and made it live action, therefore no convolution
@AgeDrain
@AgeDrain 5 жыл бұрын
Kelsey Grammer is one of the best casting picks in the franchise just behind wolverine and prof. X. He plays and looks the role to a T. I whish he would come back in the MCU. He would kill as the part of dark beast.
@darksaint0124
@darksaint0124 5 жыл бұрын
Ellen Page was also a good Kitty Pride. Too bad Fox wasted her and made her movie another Wolverine movie.
@joelimig722
@joelimig722 5 жыл бұрын
Also, grammar portrays a more convincing Hank McCoy in my opinion.
@gckoukouris1
@gckoukouris1 5 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't include the big hole of how Cerebro was created. In the first X-Men movie Cerebro was created by Xavier and Magneto, because Magneto wore his helmet to block Cerebro and psychic infiltration of his mind. In X-Men: First Class Cerebro was created by Beast and that CIA guy.
@mattym8038
@mattym8038 5 жыл бұрын
Pymm, McCoy, what the hell some scientist named Hank
@henkdetank2881
@henkdetank2881 5 жыл бұрын
Calling your kid Hank is just madness!
@navigill2707
@navigill2707 5 жыл бұрын
Also: no indication of Charles and Mystique being literally in love 40 years ago but complete strangers in the original trilogy
@navigill2707
@navigill2707 5 жыл бұрын
I didn't specify it as romantic love
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
Alternate timelines. The new one is First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan
@Usernumber777
@Usernumber777 5 жыл бұрын
Trump about north korean leader Kim: “ we fell in love”
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
@@Heru_Iluvatar Deadpool is really it's own universe, in Deadpool 2 that was just a joke in the background.
@xavigarcia9372
@xavigarcia9372 5 жыл бұрын
You mean Hank and mystique right?
@SharpDesign
@SharpDesign 5 жыл бұрын
At least the lady in The Wolverine predicted Logan's death, correctly, right?
@KevinMorales-do5on
@KevinMorales-do5on 5 жыл бұрын
I thought Wolverine would die in a plane lol. Because Wolverine asked "I don't die in this plane right?" and then Yukio was like "Not THIS plane" and smiled. The Logan death was still heartbreaking
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMorales-do5on I think that was a joke, but the holding his heart in his hands was true
@mhaughton821
@mhaughton821 5 жыл бұрын
He dies in a field in the Great Plains
@mhaughton821
@mhaughton821 5 жыл бұрын
That’s close enough
@KevinMorales-do5on
@KevinMorales-do5on 5 жыл бұрын
@@mhaughton821 OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH......... okay.
@milkopell
@milkopell 5 жыл бұрын
Like Deadpool said: "These timelines are so confusing".
@TheGargantuanAppleHMPBTS
@TheGargantuanAppleHMPBTS 5 жыл бұрын
Basically, what I think now is that the Origins Wolverine isn’t canon. The original trilogy, First Class, The Wolverine and Days of future past happened, but the events of DoFP altered the timeline so that everything gets a happy ending, and the First Class characters splintered off into their own unique timeline in which anything can happen, which is why Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix have their own unique versions of events and characters. It ain’t ideal, but this is essentially what I can cobble together to give the franchise some sort of coherency.
@EricTheKartoonKing
@EricTheKartoonKing 5 жыл бұрын
"If they don't care about all this, why should we?" Pretty much the entire reason why this franchise hasn't worked for years, right there.
@iloveutubesince3207
@iloveutubesince3207 5 жыл бұрын
Ditto for the Fantastic Four films.
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 5 жыл бұрын
If this franchise didn't work, it wouldn't have lasted for almost 20 years.
@egghead4624
@egghead4624 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe Xavier was walking in x men 3 the last stand because he's a skrull. There's only one way to find out....CHARLES ARE YOU A SKULL? TELL US ARE YOU A BLOODY SKULL?
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
The original trilogy doesn't take place in this new canon. In the old cannon, Charles and Erik looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s as seen in Wolverine Origins and The Last Stand. In this new timeline/cannon they still age into the older actors but much later, the earliest version of Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen we have seen in the new cannon was in Days of Future Past which took place in the 2020s, that gives James McCovey and Michael Fassbender 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
@gmaxion2001
@gmaxion2001 5 жыл бұрын
@@chriszone50 Dude, these people watch the movies but don't learn about them. Anyone who paid any attention to what was said about First Class and DOFP and knew what a reboot was would know that.
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan
@egghead4624
@egghead4624 5 жыл бұрын
@@gmaxion2001 wdym I knew everything about the timelines I'm a huge marvel fan, dipshit I was making a joke about skulls because it was an old running gag on this channel
@Jmgjgdjd5
@Jmgjgdjd5 5 жыл бұрын
EggHead he just copy and pastes that comment on every thread
@generalpootis5317
@generalpootis5317 5 жыл бұрын
Timeline 1 1962 - X-Men: First Class 2005 - X-Men 2006 - X2: X-Men United & X-Men: The Last Stand 2013 - The Wolverine 2015 - The Wolverine (Ending) 2023 - X-Men: Days of Future Past Timeline 2 1962 - X-Men: First Class 1973 - X-Men: Days of Future Past 2023 - X-Men: Days of Future Past 2029 - Logan Timeline 3 1962 - X-Men: First Class 1973 - X-Men: Days of Future Past 1983 - X-Men: Apocalypse 1992 - Dark Phoenix Timeline 4 1970’s-1980’s - X-Men Origins: Wolverine
@SA80TAGE
@SA80TAGE 5 жыл бұрын
First Class cannot fit into the same timeline as Wolverine Origins because of Emma Frost.
@_its_lunar_
@_its_lunar_ 5 жыл бұрын
Logan only exists in the same continuity as the original X-Men movie, as they reference the Statue of Liberty sequence, which is ~25 years before Logan, and it is mentioned that there have been no mutants ~25 years (IIRC). Meaning that after the events of X-Men 1, in which mutants exposed themselves to the world, the chemical was created that prevented the birth of mutants, preventing subsequent films from happening. After the incident at the manor leaves only Charles and Logan they go into hiding, leading into the events of Logan in 2029. Feel free to correct any errors I made, my dates may be a little off.
@g-roy23
@g-roy23 5 жыл бұрын
Samur/Aye He doesn’t put First class together with origins
@g-roy23
@g-roy23 5 жыл бұрын
_thomas moon_ For that he can probably put in the original trilogy too, just a version in which people aren’t killed.
@SA80TAGE
@SA80TAGE 5 жыл бұрын
@@g-roy23 aye I realised that afterwards, got confused looking at the dates for "the Wolverine" thinking the first one he meant origins. I think we best just all agree that the timeline is well and truly buggered no matter how you look at it. lol
@moviehermit5631
@moviehermit5631 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest retcon was the introduction of the proper comic book suits at the end of _Days of Future Past_ but then in _Dark Phoenix_ they've got the original comic book suits that don't look like they help with their powers or provide any practical protection in any way. And then they're doing the big fight in their regular clothes for the umpteenth time
@foxfit4904
@foxfit4904 5 жыл бұрын
Now the movies actually are just as convoluted as the comics.
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
Finally someone who realises just how messed up the comics are too
@foxfit4904
@foxfit4904 5 жыл бұрын
@@Heru_Iluvatar I love some Xmen comics but they are a timeline trainwreck.
@CAM8689
@CAM8689 5 жыл бұрын
Comicbook accurate in that respect
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
Different Timelines/Cannons ------------------------------------------------ 1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand. 1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
@foxfit4904
@foxfit4904 5 жыл бұрын
@@chriszone50 I just chalk it up to multiverse theory.
@Mav3rickGh0st
@Mav3rickGh0st 5 жыл бұрын
I've got a continuity error that's not even across different timelines, it's between a movie and the next one. at the end of Future Past, we see Striker pick up Wolverine from the lake or whatever he fell into, but then we cut close to see yellow eyes, revealing it's actually mystique. But then in Apocalypse Striker and his goons actually have wolverine for real, in their secret base or whatever. There is no explanation. Did Mystique give Logan over to striker? Or is it a retcon of the end of Future Past? we don't know and we never will. really peaves me off. gets me angry.
@OrganicAlchemy
@OrganicAlchemy 5 жыл бұрын
The Collector J-RUSS imagine taking the time and effort to write and film a scene, put in on screen, then just flat out forget or not care about the thing you literally just did previously. Like why bother in that case? Was it just for fun or something? It boggles the mind
@christophercarlisle7887
@christophercarlisle7887 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe she tried to save him but failed
@Usernumber777
@Usernumber777 5 жыл бұрын
Also stryker was in the army with mutants in wolverine origins
@ourlasthero51
@ourlasthero51 5 жыл бұрын
This has frustrated me since seeing Apocalypse. That was a big cliffhanger, Mystique posing as Stryker and being in charge of/having access to the Weapon X program could potentially have a huge affect on the world and the story, but they do absolutely nothing with it. Maybe she just got bored? But hey, it is the same movie where Magneto willing commits mass genocide and then Xavier lets him walk away as a free man.
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
@@ourlasthero51 it was a different timeline at that point though
@Mcbigglepants
@Mcbigglepants 5 жыл бұрын
You said Hank Pym when referring to Hank McCoy aka Beast...
@fredmurray2314
@fredmurray2314 4 жыл бұрын
It was a reference to the serum looking like pym particles
@Ghost7065
@Ghost7065 3 жыл бұрын
It was a joke. Took me a minute to figure it out.
@elijahdrake9113
@elijahdrake9113 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all dumb af slow the video down when he says it and you’ll see a quick edit with him fixing his mistake
@fredmurray2314
@fredmurray2314 3 жыл бұрын
@@elijahdrake9113 oh yeah sorry my first reaction wasn't to SLOW THE VIDEO DOWN
@elijahdrake9113
@elijahdrake9113 3 жыл бұрын
@@fredmurray2314 I saw it without even slowing it down so fuck off 💀I was telling u morons to slow it down
@n.maximo5505
@n.maximo5505 5 жыл бұрын
You know who can fix the X-Film Timeline? Mr. Kevin Fiege.
@vinicius100470
@vinicius100470 5 жыл бұрын
The Infinity Gauntlet in Asgard is a great example, right?
@pasta8787
@pasta8787 5 жыл бұрын
Vinicius Tavares but the infinity gauntlet in Asgard is a fake, hela even says it herself
@vinicius100470
@vinicius100470 5 жыл бұрын
@@pasta8787 it was a plot hole until they fixed it with this scene, the same goes for the (Fox) X-Men, it was confusing until they fixed it with DoFP.
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinicius100470 Yeah you're right, but there is a bit of a difference. Hela confirms that the gauntlet was always fake, so even thought to the audience it might have been a retcon, but not for the actual timeline in the movies. In days of future pat, it was a do over, and a good one. Unfortunately, the timeline got messed up after that again.
@Arlett777
@Arlett777 3 жыл бұрын
No Kevin Feigie ruined marvel
@evilotto9200
@evilotto9200 5 жыл бұрын
Ageless characters and seeming indifference to continuity is the most comic book thing ever.
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
Someone who gets it.
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, hear we are critiquing xmen, but stuck with that comic book accuracy.
@jasondrake323
@jasondrake323 5 жыл бұрын
The thing is though that actually put dates on the movies unlike comics and Marvel actually put an explanation to the shenanigans with Reed Richards and Susan Storm's ultra powered son, implying he is the one that somehow compressed decades of comics into such a short time.
@renriquez1994
@renriquez1994 5 жыл бұрын
@@jasondrake323 Honestly, if you really want it to work, the timeline fits.
@FairFuse
@FairFuse 5 жыл бұрын
How about in The Wolverine, his claws are cut off so he gets his bone claws back, but then in Days of Future Past, he has adamantium claws again.
@curtjames8630
@curtjames8630 5 жыл бұрын
Mutant Mall: where you can pick up claw replacements in a jiff.
@UncleLee87
@UncleLee87 5 жыл бұрын
I think I read somewhere that Magneto can manipulate the adamantium in Wolverines body. As he's now on the same team maybe he fixed them?
@FairFuse
@FairFuse 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but you can use that kind of explanation for most things (for example, Xavier making people think he's walking). The thing is it's not mentioned in the movies, so I doubt the writers even thought of it.
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Stewart We're not talking about origins, were talking about *The* Wolverine, which is decent and connected to Logan.
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
Different Timelines/Cannons ------------------------------------------------ 1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand. 1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
@johnamos7082
@johnamos7082 4 жыл бұрын
One thing i can’t conceive is in all of these prequel movies there’s so many mutants that are seen by the public but in X-Men 1 the politicians are talking like they’ve only just figured them out and that mutants are only just appearing
@jedkemekt2062
@jedkemekt2062 4 жыл бұрын
The best way to deal with these numerous undeniable continuity errors is to just view each film as taking place in its own universe.
@Wol1427
@Wol1427 5 жыл бұрын
Hey remember those cool suits at the end of X-MEN Apocalypse? Well, how about we not use those in Dark Phoenix and give the X-MEN the lame New X-MEN suits instead.
@knightofkorbin888
@knightofkorbin888 5 жыл бұрын
This movie would be 60% better with the suits
@leadsharp
@leadsharp 5 жыл бұрын
Because they were awful.
@campkira
@campkira 5 жыл бұрын
Just get biker suit. It not that difficult...
@JEMusername
@JEMusername 4 жыл бұрын
YES! totally agree
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 5 жыл бұрын
I stopped caring about the timeline a long time ago. It's more broken than Saitama!
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
It's not broken. First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan
@Mr_R.a.w.a.t
@Mr_R.a.w.a.t 5 жыл бұрын
I liked this comment just because it says "SAITAMA"
@josharntt
@josharntt 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah at this point I just like the movies and gave up on the timeline
@milesb.2457
@milesb.2457 5 жыл бұрын
How is saitama broken?
@asvieira2007
@asvieira2007 5 жыл бұрын
First of all... 'X-Men Origins Wolverine' (That's the sequel is called 'The Wolverine') is not considered part of the "official timeline", just like 'X-Men 3', whose events were rewritten due to the changes generated by the time travel in 'Days of Future Past'
@Redvinetv
@Redvinetv 5 жыл бұрын
In Apocalypse, he was so busy deflecting so many attacks that he couldn't cut heads off using sand. There fixed it.
@CLrooks
@CLrooks 5 жыл бұрын
no you didn't
@DerezzedMan
@DerezzedMan 5 жыл бұрын
@@CLrooks oh shut up, he did.
@CLrooks
@CLrooks 5 жыл бұрын
@@DerezzedMan - nope, excuses don't fix anything
@Redvinetv
@Redvinetv 4 жыл бұрын
@@CLrooks But I actually did... ***sips tea***
@CLrooks
@CLrooks 4 жыл бұрын
-redvinetv - excuses aren't fixes, **takes away your crack**
@battleupsaber462
@battleupsaber462 5 жыл бұрын
No one's talking about the most important thing: Jean Grey doesn't smile ONCE. If that's not proof that the movie's going to be trash I don't know what is 😤
@Sappharaoh
@Sappharaoh 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I dont think I saw a single person smile in this trailer. Why is Jean singled out?
@WingerEdison
@WingerEdison 5 жыл бұрын
And she's the villain
@gibsonchomar8362
@gibsonchomar8362 5 жыл бұрын
so..a cosmic entity is trying to take control of her body and her powers are beginning to spiral out of control, which is the only thing the trailer showed, and you want her to smile, why, exactly?
@ArnavSingh-ce4cq
@ArnavSingh-ce4cq 5 жыл бұрын
Jesus fucking Christ. That's incredibly sexist. No one smiles on the trailer, but hey, women exist for our pleasure right? So they should be held up to a higher standard? Eat my shit. 🖕🏽
@blyzer7373
@blyzer7373 5 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahaha. Nice one.
@crimzonheretic4575
@crimzonheretic4575 5 жыл бұрын
Xmen: the one where Oscar Isaac is blue
@Yarnball82
@Yarnball82 5 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure if anyone else mentioned it yet, but there is a Mutant from the Morlocks named Masque they could have used to explain Xavier’s possible face surgery.
@MrTrueFury
@MrTrueFury 5 жыл бұрын
First experience with the channel. So far so good, time to watch some more
@tommymc3526
@tommymc3526 5 жыл бұрын
Where does Legion fit in? Answer: it probably doesn't, but it's great anyway.
@HouseholdWheel
@HouseholdWheel 5 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no idea what time period or even what universe it takes place in, there are smartphones and rotary phones, people dress like the 80's yet are un-surprised by holograms, and inexplicably there are giant Hulk hand baloons in season two. but it is suggested that David is Charles' son
@mantistobbogan6728
@mantistobbogan6728 5 жыл бұрын
Why does Legion have to be cannon in the Sony Universe?
@neilsolanki7530
@neilsolanki7530 5 жыл бұрын
Season 1 is great. Season 2 on the other hand, is a huge letdown to say the least.
@041744
@041744 5 жыл бұрын
These movies don't even fit in with themselves
@genosblondecyborg1865
@genosblondecyborg1865 5 жыл бұрын
tommy mc ok so in the trailer when jean flips the cop cars there were in red hook. Now in legion season one there is a goverment offical who talks about the incident that happen in red hook.. new rockstars talk about the trailer breaks it down way better
@dariuspeyton6239
@dariuspeyton6239 5 жыл бұрын
Sabertooth is also a big continuity blunder too... I get that Wolverine does not recognize him in X1 because of the stupid memory loss bullet he took at the end of his movie, but then in X1 Sabertooth clearly dont act like Wolverine is his brother and has somehow reverted to a more feral character.
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 5 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that Sabertooth didn't act like Wolverine is his brother in X1. The way that Sabertooth seemed overly attached to Wolverine's dog tags suggest he still has some brotherly love for him.
@EX0DlSS
@EX0DlSS 5 жыл бұрын
Darius Peyton As wolverine and sabertooth get older their animalistic tendencies become more uncontrolled and this is the reason why in x1 sabertooth is feral and more like an animal. Wolverine was like this too BUT thanks to his metal skeleton poisoning him his rejuvenation powers are too busy keeping him alive so he isn't feral like sabertooth.
@joenesvick7043
@joenesvick7043 5 жыл бұрын
In X-Men, that guy is called Sabertooth and only credited as Sabertooth. In X-Men Origins, that guy is called Victor Creed and only credited as Victor Creed. Despite being in a much worse movie, I found Victor Creed to be a better actor
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 5 жыл бұрын
@@joenesvick7043 Yet, both characters do the same cat-like pounce, have the same claws and healing abilities, and are both obsessed with Wolverine.
@judeconnor-macintyre9874
@judeconnor-macintyre9874 6 ай бұрын
@@loudboy317 What a coincidence.
@ChenShaham
@ChenShaham 9 ай бұрын
That was so fun just listening to you two rambling about all the inconsistencies.. And there's still so much more to talk about :D
@sansfi
@sansfi 5 жыл бұрын
In both Dark Phoenix and Deadpool 2 we see neckrings that can take away your powers WHATEVER THEY ARE. Seems like that would influence the entire X-Men universe in a BIG WAY.
@shaneharrington3655
@shaneharrington3655 5 жыл бұрын
Logan corrects it all with that comic book quip about how half of it didn't happen. There, sorted.
@shaneharrington3655
@shaneharrington3655 5 жыл бұрын
Ah shaddap.
@blyzer7373
@blyzer7373 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah but in the that comic book we see them fighting a dinosaur man which never appears in the movies...
@insertnameheretopleae
@insertnameheretopleae 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing comment.
@tsohgallik
@tsohgallik 5 жыл бұрын
Yupppp.... Logan specially says that about the Comic Books.... They were created to Hype Up the XMen.. But weren't any more special than regular people in the world... The only conflicts came from racism and the military that attack and hunt these people down because of their deformities and mutant abilities....
@blyzer7373
@blyzer7373 5 жыл бұрын
@@tsohgallik But they fight the dinosaur man...
@iansantiago7545
@iansantiago7545 5 жыл бұрын
In Deadpool 2 the teenage X Men members appear even though its been like 20 more years lol
@ogonak
@ogonak 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Santiago 😂😂😂😂 i just realized that
@ajrios3123
@ajrios3123 5 жыл бұрын
They done age lol
@cameronbaker97
@cameronbaker97 5 жыл бұрын
i already gave up on the x-men timeline, so it doesn't matter anymore really.
@usheikh4
@usheikh4 5 жыл бұрын
@@ogonak and a good idea
@Krystinelle
@Krystinelle 5 жыл бұрын
Fred Rijos No... the Deadpool films are set in present day (probably) and the x-men that show up in DP 2 look the same as they do in the 70s/80s. So they haven’t aged at all.
@Whiteythereaper
@Whiteythereaper 3 жыл бұрын
It's been 2 years and everyone still forgets that Jubilee never used her powers in Apocalypse and was nowhere to be seen in Dark Phoenix
@leadsharp
@leadsharp 5 жыл бұрын
Bolivar Trask. In X men 3, played by Bill Duke, a large black guy with no hair. Days of Future Past. Trask played by Peter Dinklage. I'll just leave that there.
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 3 жыл бұрын
Trask was in X-Men 3?
@leadsharp
@leadsharp 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldenstatewarriors9418 yep
@goldenstatewarriors9418
@goldenstatewarriors9418 3 жыл бұрын
@@leadsharp Where?
@leadsharp
@leadsharp 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldenstatewarriors9418 m.imdb.com/title/tt0376994/fullcredits/cast?ref_=m_tt_cl_sc Played by Bill Duke
@leadsharp
@leadsharp 3 жыл бұрын
@Simple Truths ermmmm...I did?
@wjhull
@wjhull 5 жыл бұрын
You fools! X-Men isn't a lazy disregard for continuity--it's a cerebral statement of the quantum multiverse theory! The movies aren't meant to represent a single timeline--nor is any one movie meant to represent a single timeline. Each scene is supposed to represent a clip from a completely different timeline from the last. Why does a kiss from Rogue kill her first boyfriend, but becomes a Denteyne Ice commercial with her second? Because they're in two different universes! Why is Emma Frost made of diamonds in the 60s and BeaDazzle in the 80s? Different universes! Why are Wolverine and Sabertooth BFFs in from the 1800s to the 1980s, and then don't recognize each other in the early 2000s? Poor writing! Er, I mean, different universe!
@RackedandStacked
@RackedandStacked 5 жыл бұрын
im gonna go with this. multiple earth, hey its done in the comics wtf not!
@HistorySkate
@HistorySkate 5 жыл бұрын
Nah
@warruor
@warruor 5 жыл бұрын
The last one is actually explained in a comic set after first xmen movie...wolverine and sabretooth teamup
@loudboy317
@loudboy317 5 жыл бұрын
Wolverine suffered from amnesia by the end of Origins while Sabertooth underwent a secondary mutation during the period between Origins and X1 making him literally unrecognizable. However, I wouldn't say that Sabertooth didn't recognize Wolverine because his attachment to Wolverine's dog tags suggest that he still knows him.
@unclecreed2986
@unclecreed2986 5 жыл бұрын
It's just an infinite amount of what if universes.
@GNoble1294
@GNoble1294 5 жыл бұрын
Hank Pym...well done james
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
Different Timelines/Cannons ------------------------------------------------ 1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand. 1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
@habibbialikafe339
@habibbialikafe339 5 жыл бұрын
He's gave a correction
@esquilax5563
@esquilax5563 3 жыл бұрын
+1 for including Spaced clips in the video!
@brickvision6902
@brickvision6902 5 жыл бұрын
The ancient one wrote days of future past “This may benefit your reality. But my new one, not so much.”
@k-dawgwestmore4643
@k-dawgwestmore4643 5 жыл бұрын
Oof lemme fix one. I think that Apocalypse showed up in the new timeline bc in the original one he was killed by Sentinels before he could wake up. But when they went back and made sure Sentinels never happened, Apocalypse was able to come out and be all evil and stuff. Whatever that movie was crap idrc
@PigMan161
@PigMan161 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds plausible mate I’ll buy it
@Heru_Iluvatar
@Heru_Iluvatar 5 жыл бұрын
First Class, Days of Future Past, Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Deadpool 1 & 2 (you'll notice that both Jean and Mystique were missing in the cameo), Logan
@sophiawilson8696
@sophiawilson8696 5 жыл бұрын
So you saying Apocalypse wake up but in during the Sentinels raise to power? 2027 or 26?
@1994tomwarren
@1994tomwarren 5 жыл бұрын
So did something else happen that made professor X lose all his hair? That's some bad luck
@chriszone50
@chriszone50 5 жыл бұрын
Different Timelines/Cannons ------------------------------------------------ 1-Old timeline=Charles and Eric looked like Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen since the 1980s in The Last Stand. 1-New timeline=Charles and Erik look like James Mcavoy and Michael Fassbender in the 1980s. The latest we see Charles and Erik as Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen in the new timeline is in the 2020s in Days of Future Past meaning they have 30 years to morph into Patrick Stewart and Ian McKellen.
@aymansiddiqui5509
@aymansiddiqui5509 5 жыл бұрын
This isnt exactly a continuity error but its so weird that in days of future past they fought to change the timeline where mutants are all enslaved but then in logan they are all dead
@shooterDisease
@shooterDisease 5 жыл бұрын
Ayman Siddiqui Hanks comment that you might be able to hold off the future but never change it could explain that Sure they stopped the sentinels from wiping out mutants but a bit later they were all wiped out by the doctor guy and Xavier’s unstable mind
@dmore454
@dmore454 4 жыл бұрын
A lot of the timeline issues are solved when you realize Wolverine Origins was never in the same continuity of the rest of the franchise regardless of Days of Future Past. You still have timeline issues, but much fewer of them in this case
@moviehermit5631
@moviehermit5631 3 жыл бұрын
Also, in _The Wolverine_ Logan loses his adamantium claws and is back to his bone claws, but in _Days of Future Past_ he's got the adamantium claws back with no explanation.
@tuna9146
@tuna9146 2 жыл бұрын
lol ikr
@kharma101
@kharma101 5 жыл бұрын
Psylocke was also in X-Men The Last Stand.
@OfficiallyBlind
@OfficiallyBlind 5 жыл бұрын
So was Spike, who you might remember from the 2000's X-men animated series. He was the one who fought Wolverine in the forest and kept throwing twigs at him.
@kharma101
@kharma101 5 жыл бұрын
Allegory But that was the only movie he was in. I'm talking about people who were in two different timelines but are the same person. Like Jubilee, Emma Frost, Psylocke etc. not to mention Banshee died after first class yet his daughter Siryn is in X2 & X3
@jinxie712
@jinxie712 5 жыл бұрын
Psylocke is probably the only one that can get away with that. She has a history of a body swap. We can concede that she went back to the Morlocks after Apocalypse and into a younger body later on. Something she picked up from Apocalypse.
@jinxie712
@jinxie712 5 жыл бұрын
JOHN LEAHY She was the Asian girl that can move through shadows. She had the Crimson Dawn tattoo on her eye.
@kharma101
@kharma101 5 жыл бұрын
JOHN LEAHY She looked Emo lol
@curtisallen4639
@curtisallen4639 5 жыл бұрын
You forgot about the fact that this new movie has zero implications because at the end of Days of Future Past, when Logan wakes up, everyone is there and are happy and all living in the same house in the distant future.
@themodifieds4229
@themodifieds4229 5 жыл бұрын
But magneto, mystique, and quicksilver arent there in the mansion at the end
@vezokpiraka
@vezokpiraka 5 жыл бұрын
@@themodifieds4229 That's because they forgot those mutants existed by the end.
@Mutantgamer
@Mutantgamer 5 жыл бұрын
The Logan movie also establishes that everyone besides Xavier and Wolverine will die. So no matter what stakes they overcome in the movie, everyone will inevitably die anyway.
@tommytsunami4910
@tommytsunami4910 5 жыл бұрын
Here's one: Moria mctaggart worked for the CIA in first class and apocalypse, but then is a medical professional in x men 3. That's a hard career switch...and she didn't age in the 50 years either and in the last stand juggernaut has a british accent. in deadpool 2 he sounds like hes from NY Also: canon changed a bit- emma frost in origins is now "emma silverfox" named with her sister/wolverines dead Canadian wife.
@dupersuper6516
@dupersuper6516 5 жыл бұрын
_"Is an absolutely dumpster fire"_ Idk, it's distracting me
@tomgarton9442
@tomgarton9442 5 жыл бұрын
Love this Channel, keep it up guys, one of my favourite podcasts aswell👍
@fudgemonkeyz69
@fudgemonkeyz69 5 жыл бұрын
The Emma Frost character in X-Men Origins: Wolverine was actually another character called Emma Silverfox. I know, it’s weird, and dumb, but it’s just what it is.
@planetmediaskateboarding
@planetmediaskateboarding 5 жыл бұрын
Y'all are some of the most funniest dudes on KZbin.
@CastleBlacke
@CastleBlacke 4 жыл бұрын
Hey @Mr.SundayMovies- when are you guys going to do a Dark Phoenix movie review? Love your work! You guys are hilarious and can’t wait to hear your review?
@pppwhat
@pppwhat 5 жыл бұрын
You guys should make a part 2 of this ^^
@jhom1033
@jhom1033 5 жыл бұрын
Despite these movies many flaws I love them
@19main89
@19main89 5 жыл бұрын
I definitely enjoyed this video more than I expected!
@chetkazalski1925
@chetkazalski1925 5 жыл бұрын
I’m 5:00 minutes in. He just said Hank Pym and now I need a nap! (I know he meant McCoy)
@syeo501
@syeo501 5 жыл бұрын
I had to laugh imagining Prof X injecting Pym Particles into his body
@HawkThePhoenix
@HawkThePhoenix 5 жыл бұрын
In "the wolverine" we also see ladu death strike before she becomes her x2 counterpart. Even though it happens after the trilogy. To add to that the prequel comic to x2 even says she was sent there by silver samurai, even though he creates himself way after
@geofox84
@geofox84 5 жыл бұрын
I know X2 Lady Deathstrike wasn't at all true to the comics and she didn't have any dialogue, but she was one of my favorite adaptations for any of the movies.
@Bavrogar
@Bavrogar 5 жыл бұрын
Neat, just finished listening to last podcast where you mentioned making this video.
@blakeo_
@blakeo_ 4 жыл бұрын
That usage of BalloonShop Dart Juice was perfect. Thank you, Mr. Sunday Movies.
@cheesesteakphilly
@cheesesteakphilly 5 жыл бұрын
I think John Krasinski has the face and height for Cyclops.
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep
@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep 2 жыл бұрын
You were so ahead of the game with the John Krasinski comment
@yankees512417
@yankees512417 5 жыл бұрын
"These timelines are so confusing"
@cameronbaker97
@cameronbaker97 5 жыл бұрын
yeah they are.
@nickrottkamp4933
@nickrottkamp4933 5 жыл бұрын
X-Men 3 The last Stand: Xavier (with use of his legs) and Magneto visit child Jean Grey and both try to recruit her to the Xavier school. So apparently Magneto was a teacher there... Also in that Movie, Bolivar Trask was played by a large black man, and in Days of Future Past, He's Peter Dinklage
@cameronbaker97
@cameronbaker97 5 жыл бұрын
professor X and magneto were also old then too, and that scene took place in 1986.
@joenesvick7043
@joenesvick7043 5 жыл бұрын
Bill Duke is Trask and Peter Dinklage is Bolivar Trask. Perhaps they could be related through adoption, but they seem to be two different characters. As for everything else, like old Chuck and Eric visiting child Jean “Wolverine reset the timeline.” That’s seriously how they’d explain that one. If something doesn’t make sense, “Wolverine reset the timeline.” If a guy Apocalypse decapitated with sand shows up in the next film, “Wolverine reset the timeline.” That happened after Wolverine reset the timeline, “yeah but Wolverine reset the timeline.” Come on, resetting the timeline shouldn’t change the birth years, “yeah but Wolverine reset the timeline.” At least it gives something for Deadpool to make fun of. I like a lot of the cast (especially Famke Janssen ❤️), but I’m sure MCU remaking the franchise would do better with the timeline without just saying: “Wolverine reset the timeline.”
@derickmcduff
@derickmcduff 5 жыл бұрын
Deadpool lives in his on SPACE!!!
@JohnDoe-wq1ol
@JohnDoe-wq1ol 5 жыл бұрын
There is one Bolivar Trask in X-men last stand and a bolivar Trask in Days Of future past
@FearTheLivingDFG
@FearTheLivingDFG 5 жыл бұрын
I was about to call you out for the Hank Pym remark but that Hank McCoy insert saved you. XD
@eduardovalensi
@eduardovalensi 5 жыл бұрын
U guys miss the Bolivar Trask paradox from X3 to X-DOFP What about that?
@delcarm
@delcarm 5 жыл бұрын
What ever do you mean!!
@eduardovalensi
@eduardovalensi 5 жыл бұрын
@Ryan Stewart Non of this exist ... They're movies duh!
@KevinMorales-do5on
@KevinMorales-do5on 5 жыл бұрын
He is clearly a mutant duh.......
@eduardovalensi
@eduardovalensi 5 жыл бұрын
@@KevinMorales-do5on didn't think of that possibility thanks
@josephmckee3605
@josephmckee3605 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair in x3 he is just called Trask and wasn't given a first name.
@NotRicoBosco
@NotRicoBosco 5 жыл бұрын
Love when this duo does a video
@MetalTrenches
@MetalTrenches 4 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I love you for the Balloon Shop reference
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