The Case for (and against) Dirt Racing in NASCAR

[@bradenLa]

I encourage everyone here to attend a national level dirt racing tour event. Incredible to watch in person.

[@nascarsteve]

or find your nearest local track and attend weekly. I live in the Dallas area, this season I got to see Super Late Models, the World of Outlaws sprints twice, and the USMTS modifieds.

[@AClayton172]

​@@nascarsteve no more devils bowl speedway😭 but southern oklahoma speedway still has a few good shows local for me.

[@nascarsteve]

@@AClayton172 yeah i went to their last 2 nights. Hunt county and rocket raceway park are my 2 home tracks. Been to Ardmore twice, cool track but it’s a 2-hour drive from me

[@toyotaecw]

On the East Coast DIRTCar Big Block, 358s, and Sportsman modifieds rund at just about every local short track and typically have great car counts and good racing.

[@nascarsteve]

@@toyotaecw i live in the wrong part of the country for the big blocks, although last year i saw the short track Cajun series. Those cars were bad to the bone

[@minenhledlamini334]

2slap vids in one week, we have truly been blessed

[@apollo4619]

A Christmas miracle

[@GreatCdn59]

the season of giving!

[@nascarfanatic2425]

It's always nice to see a video on racing from a guy who actually knows what he's talking about.

[@thegreattreon0177]

Lol took the words right out of my mouth!

[@ekimp252]

A Festivus phenomenon.

[@therealjuralumin3416]

As an Aussie I am very much for the dirt racing in NASCAR, Australia is one of the only places outside of the US to have high-level dirt track racing (we call it Speedway) and it rocks. Tickford Racing made a video a few years back where they took their Ford Mustang V8 Supercar to a dirt track and let Cam Waters slide it around, it was sick, and NASCAR racing on dirt is basically that whole concept as a full event.

[@IndyGuest]

Yo Tickford did WHAT!?!? I gotta see that!

[@jamestabor7725]

I wish NASCAR would copy the V8 suoercar. It's a much better looking car. I would think it has way more horsepower. That being said I'm not a fan of them racing on dirt. At least Bristol anyway. It's a gimmick . A bad one. Idk maybe a different track would be better.

[@RugbyRyan]

Isn’t speedway motorcycle racing and not cars or is that just a British thing?

[@FlashoftheBlades]

V8 Supercars on dirt! Even though I’m in the States, if I saw that kind of race on their schedule, I’d be saying, “Holy shit, I hope I can get tickets to see that!”

[@Dexter037S4]

@@jamestabor7725 They have less horsepower, only around 550, they make it for it by the fact that they make barely any downforce.

[@JackFarrar-wd1vi]

I'd rather flo racing continue to grow, get their prices down and bring real dirt racing to the masses. 410 sprint car racing is amazing right now

[@racermac1988]

You mean... What they are already doing? And the price for Flo is already cheaper than ANY other short track streaming service...

[@JackFarrar-wd1vi]

​@racermac1988 i know, I just think it they could get it down to around 20$ a month they would see an explosion in subscribers

[@racermac1988]

@@JackFarrar-wd1vi it's already less than that per month... You just have to buy the year and not worry about it.

[@JackFarrar-wd1vi]

​@@racermac1988I already do but a potential casual fan probably isn't going to drop $150 for a yearly pass which is who we need to grow the sport.

[@HeyItsAJOmega]

@@JackFarrar-wd1viAgreed - if they had a monthly option I'd sign up in a heartbeat.

[@KevinClinginhoffer]

Flo racing and dirtvision is the way to go if you want to watch dirt track racing. Sprint cars and super late models put heavy stock cars on dirt to shame.

[@hagerdhotrodz]

Since they went ahead and repaved North Wilkesboro anyways, I feel like NASCAR missed out on a unique piece of history by not putting dirt on the track and running the All-star race on dirt for it's 75th anniversary at the track that was originally BORN a dirt track. 😢

[@Tipzyyy]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the "Prelude to the Dream" at Eldora. They use to have several cup drivers and legends race a big money exhibition race. Not only that but the teams would have the Late Models wrapped to represent the racer too. Jeff Gordon, Carl Edwards, Jimmie Johnson, Red Farmer, John Force, Kyle Busch, and I can't remember the others. It was a really really cool event.

[@crystaljon]

John Force never competed in those races. I know Ron Capps and Cruz Pedregon did.

[@KevinBowman-zt8km]

I went to several preludes and many of the big events at eldora like the world 100 and there's at least 30k people there when it's sold out, it's a crazy environment

[@Corky3D]

It'd be nice for them to bring the prelude back, but I don't see it happening. Expenses in racing including dirt is at an all time high now. Most them cars were owned by existing late model teams, that they rented out for the cup drivers to drive. I knew at least 2 different people that supplied cars, I also knew someone that wrapped some of the cars. There was several cars rented out that were totaled after the event and the team had to go buy other cars. Some of the cars used the teams were using the race as a test session for the Dream, but had to scramble to get another car ready for the Dream, if they didn't already have a car ready.

[@frankisfunny2007]

​@@crystaljonPastrana did it one year, as well! Tony Kanaan, Danica Patrick, Bobby Labonte, Steve Kinser. It was a 1-race deal for IROC for dirt!

[@nascarsteve]

I've been an avid race fan literally my entire life. I grew up going to a small dirt track an hour south of Kansas City. I live in Dallas. I used to LOVE to go to Texas Motor Speedway, up to 3 times a year (both Cup races and the June truck race) I would attend one dirt race a year from 2006-2015 (the Texas Motor Speedway dirt track) but since 2015 my love for dirt has increased 10 fold and I found that NASCAR had become a once-a-year novelty and (as a photographer who gets into my home track for free) I forgot how expensive NASCAR is. I've developed some pretty good friendships at the local dirt track, my home track even had NASCAR Truck series driver Kaden Honeycutt race his crate late model this summer. Dirt is closer, if you're a fan it's cheaper, and there are plenty of drivers to support. Shoot, because of what I do, I get all kinds of swag, I have upwards of 80 dirt racers tshirts and probably 2 dozen hats. I will only wear NASCAR Throwback gear now.

[@carldeacon2192]

Would love to see them add Eldora and the Charlotte dirt track. Honestly, don't buy the logistics argument anymore. When you can plop a track right in a football stadium, you can go to a real dirt track.

[@Corky3D]

That football stadium has the seating for it, none of the dirt tracks do. Unless Nascar wanted to pay a private owner of a race track tons of money to add seating and everything else. Just to have it possibly flop. Say they wanted to go to Eldora, I know for fact Eldora doesn't have enough seating for it. For them to add more seating to Eldora. That'd come out of Tony Stewart's pocket or Nascar's. I doubt Stewart would pay, due to him not being the biggest fan of Nascar anymore, especially after Nascar left Eldora and went to Knoxville.

[@ConnorCranden]

​@SlideWayz3D eldora holds at least 30,000 people, which is the same as iowa speedway which they just added

[@nickphilkill818]

Dirt content is terrific keep it up!

[@Daveybird]

Ever since I found out about ARCA running DuQuoin and Springfield in the 2000s, I've been interested in this "asphalt cars on dirt" thing. Even though they're slower than purpose-built dirt cars, it's cool how they can push it to the limits, and dip back into their roots for a bit.

[@patkerr5659]

On the note of totally transforming a track. I still can’t get over the cost that must be associated with building a track at the coliseum every year for the clash.

[@lindahaugh4711]

Gonna throw a track into the ring: Port Royal Speedway. Wide half mile, high banks, multiple grooves for all cars, and you can get that placed packed to the brim

[@DuaneStaveley]

Kings royal had way more than 25,000 people last year i'd say at least 30,000 if not more

[@MaxEliason]

Yep this guys a nascar pr plant

[@ZacharyWilliams-ik7pe]

Top level dirt track racing is amazing to watch right now and what flo racing is doing for the sport is incredible. Who cares about nascar.

[@JoshDavidson-v3q]

Yeah I would have to agree I used to be a hard-core nascar fan but when you get talented drivers dirt is alot more fun to watch.

[@thatoldme1234]

What about covering Daytona In Dirt?

[@LancasterResponding]

2:26 This always makes me remember a quote by Brain “The White Mamba” Scalabrine, “I’m closer to LeBron than you are to me.”

[@alexisborden3191]

Oh man I remember that dude, that was awesome lol, and wasn't it like the only guy who scored against him was a D1 college player? And even then it was only one score?

[@drumnbasssakuga9352]

Literally watched Trucks at Eldora replay yesterday and it's a great race, I wish Cup cars could go there

[@IrishClone]

As an Iowan, I honestly think people won't mind Knoxville being taken over by NASCAR. Iowans, and especially small town Iowans, take pride in any little possible recognition. They'll readily accept a week of shutdown for big NASCAR hype. Hell, when the Iowa Speedway race was announced, it was news for a week here. However, the venue probably isn't ready for it, let alone all the other things you pointed out about the organizational issues. Just won't happen, I'm afraid

[@FrequencyOfThought]

My dad called them right after Iowa was announced and they promised him seats and then when they went of sale they sold them all to a third party so they could jack up prices and it was immediately sold out.. NASCAR owned tracks are scamming people and there should be a lawsuit. They do this with Daytona every year too. With Seat Geek partners reselling tickets. It's to make it seam more exclusive than it is.

[@craigcampbell8560]

@@FrequencyOfThought And that's one of the big reasons nobody attends the races any more.

[@tamezzodiac2862]

Knoxville would suck ass with these cars. These cars need banked dirt tracks to race good.

[@KevinBowman-zt8km]

​@tamezzodiac2862 yet you people worship Martinsville speedway lmao 😂

[@AgtWashingtub]

@@KevinBowman-zt8km Banked DIRT tracks. Reading comprehension is fun.

[@connorbingel7134]

Dirt racing is a totally different beast to asphalt racing. It really should be in nascar just like road racing. Different skills means different drivers winning different races

[@FrankCrum-g4t]

Flo racing is going to be a growing problem for nascar in the coming years. I expect them to ban drivers from competing on dirt soon. Larson will probably bail on nascar when that happens

[@CaidenMonroe-t4c]

If that scenario plays out it would be hilarious for sure.

[@tydaboss3097]

The day Hendrick does not allow Larson to run on dirt is the day he leaves NASCAR or atleast Hendrick

[@TylerRoss-tk5ld]

Larson has said a WoO points championship is a career goal so it will happen at some point

[@Liamflynnphoto]

No it won’t lmao. NASCAR is still by far the most popular motorsport in the US. Not only that, but NASCAR gave their TV rights to lower series like the Mod Tour to Flo. Flo is good for them. And why would NASCAR ban drivers from running dirt races? WoO and High Limit still can’t compete with NASCAR and never have competed with NASCAR in terms of popularity. Dirt racing is a niche of an already niche form of sport.

[@RACINGUS95]

It really shits me how NASCAR fans complained about the spring Bristol race, then NASCAR changed it to try something different, and then fans complained that they wanted the regular spring race back, even though they were whinging about it a few years ago. Like, what the hell do you want???

[@Dirtallday]

They want to whine endlessly. It's what southerners do.

[@Buynot]

They did the exact same thing with Indianapolis too lol. Complained for years about the racing, so Nascar changed it, and now everyone's clamoring to change it back.

[@ConnorCranden]

They want to complain

[@RACINGUS95]

@@Buynot and don’t even get me started on Auto Club

[@Dirtallday]

The correct numbers for attendance is 30,000 for eldora and 21,500 for knoxville. Eldora sells out for the kings royal and world 100. Both venues could hold a cup race tomorrow.

[@BradenLewis-bm2ur]

Yeah I know for a fact over 30,000 people were at the kings royal this year I'm not sure where he got that info.

[@DarinAckerman]

I think it's 21,500 is for knoxville, which is about what he said, he is not correct about eldora

[@Dirtallday]

​@@DarinAckermanyeah I looked it up and you are correct I will change it

[@Isupportfloracing]

Eldora could do it easily. It's just corporate games. They probably hate stewart behind the scenes which is why it isn't happening

[@S1apShoes]

I believe that 30k figure. In my research I found a few articles about "Eldora's record attendance" in 2017 for the World 100, and I found no newer articles boasting a higher number. I thought 25k was lowballing it a bit, but not having any evidence to the contrary I went with a number I could backup. Glad to hear Eldora is doing that well.

[@rmv33]

My dad took me to many a race at Orange County Fair Speedway. There's absolutely something special about dirt tracks. He had a bumper sticker on his old pickup that said "If you ain't got dirt in your beer, you're not at a real race!"

[@joshhenderson989]

Personally as a life long 30 year old nascar fan. I fell in love with the cars on dirt. I’m going to miss it.

[@aaronmachado13]

Honestly I got friends of mine who usually wouldn’t think twice about nascar who fell in love with Bristol dirt especially since the transition to night race meant the dirt didn’t dry it out making it a dust bowl like 2021. That ending of the 2022 race being a classic in my opinion. Personally I saw improvements every year in which usually I can’t stand a track having a 2nd date unless it adds a new interpretation of the track ( Roval vs oval type) which lets that date stand on its own . Now its a direct competitor for the playoff race which if you’re saving up to go to a nascar race, 80% of people are gonna choose the night race since it’s the same racing.

[@craigcampbell8560]

NASCAR absolutely SHOULD run dirt races. There's too many intermediate races on the schedule, so they could easily take one date away from a couple of intermediate tracks to add dirt races to the schedule. Why not run Knoxville AND Eldora?

[@sammycampbell1654]

I agree.... I'd like to see one maybe (fingers crossed) two dirt races. That doesn't necessarily mean "throw mud on Bristol" every year though. Get some kind of 3 year rotation. I'm of the same thinking with a street course. LOVED the Chicago race. But my first thought is "don't go back again in 24." Because NASCAR fans are very consistent in loving something new till the newness wears off, and then we hate it. Get 3 more cities. Rotate them year to year.

[@pagz7779]

I feel like the fact that they made the Bristol dirt race happen even once let alone 2 years in a row means that something like this could happen again. I mean they are going into the third time making the LA coliseum into a track for one weekend, someone in the higher-ups is a fan of little pet projects becoming real for sure. Should be interesting to keep an eye on

[@BloodyBoyBlue]

FOX is who makes those decisions, NASCAR makes big $$$ from the TV contracts because they let the networks have more creative control than any other sport. The dirt race only happened because FOX asked for it.

[@griffinfuller2567]

Thing about the NextGen car, the chassis are interchangeable. Talked to a mechanic at trackhouse and he said the same car that won at COTA was the same car ran at Talladega and the All Star race (for chastain) in 2022

[@sethbomgardner9030]

Yeah, it seems like he's a little bit a step behind on his facts and history here. The cars aren't more expensive, they may be up front but the teams are saving in r&D. Also, did he even watch the Bristol dirt race last year with the next gen car? It was a spectacular race, even with the limited horsepower. The problem was it just took a few years to figure out what the banking and moisture should be. Last year they had the track dialed in and it was amazing racing. So no, like you said, it's not a chassis issue, and last year there certainly wasn't a horsepower issue, or talent issue. It's just a bummer that they aren't going back when they had the track perfectly designed. If they had kept Bristol dirt, I would have went this year. Also, please no Knoxville, I watch that truck race on TV, and it's the most frustrated I've ever been watching a race, perhaps except for the truck series finale this year. And that's including the Indianapolis race with the tire crap show, that was absurd to the point of entertaining, plus it was always fun to hate on Goodyear those days.

[@CaidenMonroe-t4c]

Everybody here wants to talk about flo racing but dirtvision has a better production value and most of the top 410 teams are sticking with WoO (for now)

[@Landon21racing]

yeah at double the price lol, my friends are never gonna pay 150 a year for flo, you really think they'll pay 40 a month for dirtvision? Not to mention WOO LM's have been pretty lame compared to lucas. Neither one is making a real push for bringing new fans in either. Need one of those two to shake up what we expect and make big moves to scrape the millions of new racing fans top our side. They both kinda suck IMO

[@ShaunGg12]

I have flo, dirtvision is too pricey. I might get a monthly subscription for the big shows at husets and eldora in May and June. They need to allow monthly subs to watch the knoxville nationals.

[@codyjarvis]

I was under the impression the next Gen construction meant they didn’t have to have different cars. You can take a car anywhere rc to super speedway to short track.

[@DuaneStaveley]

Yeah this guy is full of it

[@kalebdegroot7825]

And the car races like shit at all of them. We need specialized cars again.

[@Local11Sam]

Short Dirt track racing is the best motorsport.

[@JC12856]

That "what is a sprint car" video got recommended to me pretty cool channel alot better than the other nascar youtubers

[@marcisdzerve9558]

Literally opened up your channel to watch something and a vid was uploaded 1minute ago, couldn't ask for a better coincidence!

[@wrenchracers2083]

I remember watching the first Bristol dirt race and seeing the late models parked next to the cup cars and thinking that the late model guys are way faster on the track but make way less money at the same track

[@timg7627]

Exactly. The late models are significantly faster on Bristol dirt. The WoO sprints are significantly faster than both. In fact the sprints on dirt are faster than nascar on pavement at Bristol. Seeing both late model and sprints at Bristol dirt is the real benefit of nascar racing dirt there. Haha

[@Daveybird]

@@timg7627Yep, since approximately 2001 when the World of Outlaws Sprint Cars and Hav a Tampa Xtreme DirtCar Late Models.

[@superduperbooper3987]

I am not a big NASCAR fan but I do love racing in general. Your videos have helped me to learn more about oval racing

[@nascarfanatic2425]

I'm going back into racing next year, and I plan on racing at my home track which is an asphalt track, but I also plan on running dirt on Friday night as well to get more track time and a feel for dirt. Granted, I'm only running in the 4-cylinder divisions, but still.

[@the80hdgaming]

4 cylinder racing is still nothing to take for granted... You learn a lot of the basics there... Besides, 4 banger racing is fun af...

[@BradenLewis-bm2ur]

What tracks

[@DuaneStaveley]

That's awesome to hear man. What tracks if you don't mind sharing?

[@nascarfanatic2425]

@@DuaneStaveley I would rather keep that confidential in this feed, but if you really want to know, I'll take a PM.

[@ShaunGg12]

Dirt track seems like it would be insanely fun to participate in

[@DennyDeliversYT]

i still find it pretty ironic that kyle larson, an avid sprint car dirt racer, doesn’t want to race dirt bristol

[@IanTheMotorsportsMan_YT]

Maybe he wants a real dirt track. If that’s the case, I don’t blame him

[@CosmosArchipelago]

Napcars are not built for dirt at all. That was his statement.

[@Motorsport-club]

​​@@CosmosArchipelagoit's (nascar) stop living the 90s and 2000s bro

[@S1apShoes]

I can't blame him. He comes from the world of purpose built dirt cars. Racing a cup car on dirt is kind of like making a pickup truck water-tight, then throwing an outboard motor on the back and heading out to sea. Yeah you can do it and it'll work, and I'm all for taking drivers out of their comfort zone, but there are better vehicles more suited for the job.

[@talonobrovacgorgon5994]

​@@S1apShoes To be fair, an Orangutan did make one and it did work really well (once) and did it ease

[@calebharris292]

Never done competition racing, but I did have a job in the middle of the Nebraska Badlands. In an '09 interceptor, dropoffs right on the edge of the road, hair pin turns, felt like dancing on a knife edge; but got damn it was a hell of a time. Getting up to 100 starts to feel more like a hovercraft. If I ever got the chance to get on a dirt track I'd take it just to get that feeling again.

[@01Zipang]

I just want to clarify that the current cup car is easy to swap packages for. So they don't have specific cars for specific tracks. Spire for example planned to run the dirt car at talladega in april of 2022. Ross's talladega win car was also his cota win car too I believe. So It's not about having a specific car for a dirt race. right now it's just swapping out packages for each car. So they aren't spending out for a specific dirt car.

[@ATK10155]

I went to Bristol Dirt in the spring. I never want to see dirt in nascar ever again.

[@ZontarDow]

The fact that Pinty's is the division that first managed to have dirt, paved, street and road courses on a single calendar is endlessly amusing to be given how short it is. All we need is to have an ice exhibition before Euro does and it'd truly be a full package.

[@Dexter037S4]

Canada's a racing country alright. When the Chicago Street Circuit inevitably falls off the calendar, head to the oldest Street Circuit in North America, le Circuit de Trois Rivieres, there's more than enough space there.

[@Sammy-y2e]

Cherokee is a badass place go there. You really need to take a trip to the upper midwest and Pennsylvania if you wanna see the best dirt facilities in the country though

[@MiamiMallAlien]

Travelers rest is a fun track in that area too. Also a really nice pavement track called Greenville Pickens which actually has a history of cup races awhile back

[@roberts.444]

The only thing about if Nascar were to go back to dirt is that I dont think they have any plans on going back to Eldora since Tony started the SRX Series, which if im not mistaken is why the trucks left for Knoxville. So there really arent any options out there that would fit if you went to a purpose built dirt track.

[@davidcopeland5450]

Sort of. The main reason why NASCAR left Eldora is because Tony Stewart got pissed when NASCAR first announced plans to run dirt at Bristol and felt that the sanctioning body was taking away the exclusivity of the Eldora Dirt Derby; especially with feeling like NASCAR blindsiding him with such a move. SRX may have played a factor into it was well, but it was not the main reason for Eldora dropping from the Truck schedule. As for Knoxville, I thought the racing product there the Trucks put on was awful and, in particular, the 2021 event was probably the worst Truck race I'd ever seen. Partly because of the track but more so because of the nature of the drivers who compete in the Truck Series.

[@stoopid_roofer6447]

If NASCAR was listening to their core fan base, they would get rid of the playoffs.

[@MustangChuck]

There has to be some middle ground between having a dedicated NASCAR dirt race track and overrunning the smaller towns. Perhaps incorporating a dedicated dirt track in the infield of already existing speedways and superspeedways and incorporating some sort of module grandstand system to where they can easily move fans closer to the action when it comes to race day? That way there's less dirt to haul around and dump, we get our cup cars on dirt, and if they staff it with "dirt track specialists" then it opens up an entirely new local venue for grassroots dirt track racing.

[@englishsteel-nz6im]

I think variety would benefit the season. Toss in some dirt races and a few more Road Courses to mix in with the usual long tri-oval and short oval. Winning driver needs a diversified skill set to be the most consistent. I'm from CA and I've attended Sonoma a few times and the stock cars on a road course are a fun race.

[@TerrorSwain]

That feeling when Slap mentions your home dirt track as the last short track added to the schedule in 1970. Albany Saratoga Speedway, the great race place!

[@SidekickZero]

As fan of NASCAR from my child and worked on, built many engines and a 80s model cougar StreetStock car for the local dirt tracks. It was the greatest time if my teenage years. My stepdad drove and worked the pits and as a spotter, even had shirts made lol. We would record the races if we weren't going to be home amd always looked forward to watching them. This was mid to late 90s though. I stopped watching after Dale's wreck (RIP Intimidator) and my stepdad killed himself the same year. So, for me, I'm partial to the dirt tracks and small-town short tracks. The one that we went to the most of you're interested S1apSh0es was in Rusk, TX. The one is Tatum, TX ran spinters, great time...great times... I sure miss it.

[@DanielSacker]

I call bs on the 25 000 for eldora number. Tony stewart claimed that there was 35,000 people at a world 100 one year. I honestly dont think anythings stopping nascar cup from running eldora except politics

[@DarinAckerman]

I have noticed these good ole boy nascar types lie about eldora, it's attendance capacity is above 30,000. Easily researchable.

[@RyanPetrynka]

The World of Outlaws World Finals runs at The Dirt Track at Charlotte Motor Speedway. ZMax Dragway is next door and the 1.5 mile quad oval is across the street. I don't understand why CMS can't bring in temporary seats for the dirt track and run there.

[@JoshuaRaines-y5w]

Yessirrrr im at cherokee speedway every saturday💯

[@sandalogaming6766]

Ironically, Childress approach to training drivers worked for me in Sim Racing as well lmao. I mostly play the F1 games and when I tried DiRT Rally 2.0 for a good while, I noticed my car control was miles better than it was before, plus, sliding cars around dirt courses is just fun, it doesn’t matter if it’s an dirt oval in the south US or some bumpy jumpy back road in Finland.

[@justinyoung109]

It also works racing RC cars too. Just ask the Busch brothers and Lewis Hamilton

[@Dexter037S4]

Richard Burns Rally helped me improve in NR2003.

[@nickb8773]

Lucas oil in wheatland Missouri could possibly host a race also for the lower series

[@skyewarren79]

What I think could be cool/interesting is (with some schedule reworking) have ARCA, Xfinity, and trucks do essentially an indiana sprint week/eastern storm/Ohio sprint week type of event. For a week, have the 3 series run 2-3 races at a dirt and paved short track somewhere in the mid west or south east. And have the series or sanctioning body put up big prize money. So for example, take this Midwest based idea Sunday: xfinity at Slinger Monday: arca at Berlin Tuesday: trucks at the Terre Haute Action Track Wednesday: xfinity at Sharon Speedway Thursday: Arca at Kokomo Friday: xfinity at Atomic Speedway Saturday night finale: Trucks at Eldora. Keep ticket prices low, involve the local track promoters, put the races on National TV and hell maybe partner with some kind of weekly show at the track to help boost those guys.

[@limpetarch98k]

Regardless of how expensive and difficult it is, I still think NASCAR should really chase those dirt races. Especially to someone like me who never gave a damn about NASCAR until very recently, dirt tracks are definitively a breath of fresh air.

[@StevenClemens-zk3kk]

I would become a paytreon if you did more videos on short track racing outside of nascar

[@Theawatson10]

1:49 Hey that’s my short track!

[@FrosteeWusky]

Two things I disagree with: 1) the inability to put the Cup series at Eldora is a bit over exaggerated, as NASCAR could simply work with the track to make the venue bigger. Plus, non competitive pit stops would cover most pit road issues, and the field size wouldn't be much of an issue for the racing (would probably make it a little extra chaotic but in a good way). 2) having a dirt car on hand for 1 race a year wouldn't be a bad thing considering how little they use their Superspeedway cars, and the chassis problem could easily be solved by NASCAR handing them another (which I'd imagine they would if they wanted this to work). Everything else is spot on as usual; wish the video hadn't been on the shorter end but it was great while it lasted 😎

[@NASCARFAN93100]

A Cup Race at Eldora would be awesome

[@Antholography]

I think what many tired fans like myself understand a lot of what you're saying; we just don't *want* it to be true. The Chicago Street Race (with the rain) was an exciting and new event; even if riddled with problems. The idea that we could get more of that kind of excitement with a dirt event is really tantalizing for folks like me. While I understand your points (and counterpoints) - I just wish there was something that could be done. Heck, for years we all thought there was no way we would ever see a return to North Wilkesboro - but here we are.

[@grahamschuh]

I went to Kansas speedway a few years ago and recently went to the dome in STL for dirt nationals this past weekend. I think nascar is on its final leg, the fans show up and support dirt track so much more than nascar with all their rules and point structure.

[@BradenLewis-bm2ur]

Eldora footage warms my heart. My people.

[@CYMotorsport]

You’re killing it lately boss

[@mcj88]

I'd definitely be alright with a dirt race staying in the Cup Series schedule, just put it on a dedicated dirt track instead of hastily converting an existing track to dirt as a once-a-year gimmick. I think most of the problems you highlighted could be pretty easily surmountable, it's just that NASCAR doesn't want to even try to surmount them.

[@DuaneStaveley]

Correct and I don't even think the attendance numbers this guy is giving about eldora is accurate, I've been to the big events there and there's more than 25000 thousand people

[@hick16j1]

@@DuaneStaveley The attendance at the World 100 was amazing this year. Way above 25k!!

[@roberts.444]

I needed a new slap video to watch, ive been rewatching all the old ones 😂

[@ThEtEcHnOsAm]

I’ve not really watched much NASCAR being from Europe, however past three years I’ve watched the dirt race. Way more interesting for the viewer.

[@josephd9190]

If nascar wants to sell that Nascar drivers are the best drivers in North America honestly there needs to be a few dirt races, super speedway and 1.5, short tracks and road courses. So 2023 schedule was great even had a street course.as a 25 year fan following Nascar they need to keep the schedule diverse. I like seeing all the different skill sets and it makes the title more prestigious if won. You have to be a master all all skill. Let’s keep a dirt track going forward

[@MnWun53]

It should be known that Nascar limited the Duncan family and Knoxville when it came to track prep for those truck races.

[@nickfoy7430]

Glad to see an upload , always enjoy the content bro ❤

[@dkmotorracingnz8010]

I think temporary seating could be used for Knoxville to begin, and smart infrastructure decisions would be able to fit more permanent seating while keeping to the small site they have. A super season for me would be (by amount of weekends): 3 dirt ovals - Eldora, Knoxville, Purpose built venue on west coast to increase swing (Auto Club Site), or Charlotte (temp seats for capacity) 2 2.5ers - Pocono and Indy (pocono double header possibility) 6 Supers - Daytona, Tally, and Atlanta 10 Speedways (1-1.5ers) 8 Shortracks - Bristol, Martinsville, Richmmond (these three rotate on who gets 2nd race), Iowa, NWilksboro, IRP (temp grands) 5 Road courses - WG, Sonoma, Charlotte Roval, Canadian track, rotating final one 1 street circuit - Chicago (possibly rotating or travelling) 1 Dirt Road course - Pair up with some other organisations to build a place where there's a flat track for Cup cars, and other shorter tracks for anything, etc. I guess similar to how daytona Beach was bar sandy ruts in the corners. The Dirt car should be able to be used because the cars are symmetrical now right? This covers everything but drag racing that saloons/sedans/stockcar/GT cars can do, and makes it *the* series for the anytime-anywhere drivers. but I can only dream.

[@justinyoung109]

Dirt road course = Rallycross. They could go to Utah Motorsports Campus, do a loop around the Nitrocross jumps, but build up the banking a bit and incorporate the road couse there, or better yet, bring back the Daytona Beach and road circuit but with modern safety features and maybe a chicane or two to break up the straight sections for braking purposes

[@dkmotorracingnz8010]

@@justinyoung109 Utah sounds good, I'm thinking like SRX Game trucks and dirt RCs in Heat series, but better. East Coast Florida doesn't need a new race unless daytona just goes down to the 500

[@TerminalSports45]

1:54 Hey Boyd's Speedway is My neck of the woods, nice to see some love for it

[@S1apShoes]

Any word on that track? I heard it was getting sold and demo'd

[@KINGDUB24]

Very well said and I fully agree. I attended the last two Bristol dirt races and they were fun in person. I do however understand the financial issues all around with them though especially with Bristol losing its summer dirt season this year

[@Dmoney-d7q]

Vast majority of oval tracks in america are dirt. Seems silly for the "top level of racing in america" (It's not) to not have multpile dirt races

[@Frank-o5l1c]

This whole sport is just rich people from the carolina's who jerk eachother off. The fact that most tracks on america are dirt dosn't even register with them because that's not how they do it round here boy.

[@Dmoney-d7q]

​​@@Frank-o5l1c😂

[@SharpeRacing]

I’m surprised that Knoxville Speedway is in Iowa. That makes it much closer to me than I originally thought. And also, yeah I agree that NASCAR should race on dirt consistently. Though I personally think that would be a problem due to how NASCAR and Eldora’s track owner Tony Stewart have had not so good relations in recent years.

[@JackFarrar-wd1vi]

​​@@alexmaccain2362yes because he created the most successful truck race ever with the eldora dirt derby and should have been rewarded with a cup date.

[@Ob1tuber]

I kind of want Slipknot to perform at Iowa Speedway, mainly because they are the biggest band (that I know of) from Iowa, it might be fun, it might be chaos (you know like Slipknot shows generally are)

[@driver3019]

I had never watched more than a few hours of NASCAR in my life until I saw the first ever dirt race being advertised. I now won't miss a race for anything. I didn't know that dirt racing existed anywhere before that and I still think it's a coolest thing ever. I am so disappointed that it's not happening this year and I hate how much it gets trashed since it's the reason I, and I'm sure many others, are fans today.

[@Dirtallday]

Get a flo racing subscription

[@Dirtallday]

Or dirtvision which is the world of outlaws streaming service, but I think WoO could be on the way out

[@DaveVsEvilDead]

West Virginia Motor Speedway would be PERFECT for a Nascar date. 5/8 of a mile dirt track that just had a big renovation in Mineral Wells, WV. Eldora is not the only one.

[@Eeyortig]

Ima miss the Dirt Bristol race. I enjoyed it for those 3 years.

[@topofthecircle]

I hate to say it, but it's a pipe dream in the Gen 6 era. NASCAR has given itself over to large ovals, large crowds, and asphalt. At least, in the Cup series. I see a future where there is a Cup series exclusively on ovals, a separate road-racing series, and a separate dirt series. Just a thought.

[@bigredbirdy6563]

Iowa speedway is basically the same size as eldora sorry folks it's just politics

[@Clinton-nt6qp]

This is awesome dude! I’m from Orange County NY and have raced with Stewart Friesen thanks for the plugs! Can you do a video or maybe you have on dirt modified cars. This year was the first year Orange County had a limited season. Really praying they can keep the track going as I’m saving to get my big block rebuilt to hit the track again.

[@colten53]

I want one dirt race per year. Track variety of a great. It makes the season more interesting and it separates NASCAR from the open wheel forms of racing. However, let’s not turn a paved track into a dirt track when there’s so many good dirt tracks to use. I’m biased towards racing on dirt though as a rally fan

[@englishsteel-nz6im]

Variety is good. I'd add two more road courses in the season also. So many good tracks.

[@bubwal23xifan]

Jeff purvis' home track. Clarksville Speedway. Home of the toliet bowl and the Tucka-see challenge.That track would put on a helluva dirt race

[@jabber1990]

too close to Nashville

[@Mister_Matt_X]

"This ain't asphalt son this is dirt."- Doc Hudson

[@justinyoung109]

First of all love this video S1ap, and am looking forward to both more deep dives on things, and short track tour content. Second off, I don't see the Next Gens ever going back on dirt. Those cars were clearly not designed for dirt. They did not look right out there, the chassis were likely torn all up, among other things. Add the lack of horsepower and yeah Next Gen Cup cars on dirt aren't going anywhere. Third, I could see bringing back Gen six cars if HMS (who btw still make them for track day use) agree to supply the whole field or at least part of the field. (ARCA teams selling or renting their cars back to Cup teams?) Since that will likely never happen; this brings me to the last point which is, maybe just keep dirt for the Xfinity and truck series. Both are more closely aligned to dirt oval cars (even if Xfinity get IRS one day it would bring them more in line with FIA Rallycross cars) and can be modified for permanent dirt duty. Xfinity & Truck standalone event at Eldora would be cool and an easy sell to The CW as a special event.

[@dexterhochstetler3727]

I think NASCAR could do a dirt or mixed surface road course at a rallycross track, really take the sport back to its roots.

[@justinyoung109]

I'll do you one better. Take it back to the actual Daytona Beach course with modern safety barriers and a doubleheader with NitroCross

[@sammycampbell1654]

1:10 thats a huge problem for NASCAR. The fans dont know what they want. We sceeamed that Indy sucked, and we screamed for more road courses. So NASCAR listened, and gave us Indy RC. And after 2 runs there, we were screaming we hated that and want the oval back.

[@timcervantes2957]

For me personally i say go to eldora. Dont worry about extending attendance. The track will sell out so hopefully theyll make their profit. The infrastructure is set for that size. Put on a good show everything else will follow

[@BrowncoatInABox]

I have not watched a race in iver a decade. I cannot stop watching you

[@JL-ho1tc]

The dirt race is the best race of the year outside of Atlanta

[@haiwin224]

Honestly i wanted to see NASCAR on dirt. Then i saw it and I immediately remembered that NASCAR stock cars evolution went almost the opposite way of their dirt modified and late model cousins. I'd rather just watch the purpose built sprints, modifieds, and late models do what they do on dirt. It's just better racing.

[@elrinconcuriosodesally3528]

After watching this, the shorts used for videos of older races like the Buick (as well Pixar's Cars 3 when they show the old dirt tracks) and watching the current Gen is interesting, however the point made by the SRX has to be there

[@wyattwunderlin4445]

I think a Big Money exhibition race at the Dirt Track at Charlotte or Talladega Short Track would draw a crowd. Let's do a Wednesday show with Late Model Stocks, similar to the cars used in the CARS tour, and give $1 Million to the charity of the winning driver and $1 Million to the winning driver. It can be a continuation of the Prelude to the Dream from several years back and incorporate several racing series drivers (NASCAR, Dirt Late Models, Sprint Cars, IndyCar, Ect.) For the race program, 2 Lap qualifying followed by heat racing, B Mains, LCQ, and the A Main. No Points, No guaranteed starts, Just race cars, Drivers, and 1 Million on the line.

[@4cylindersoffury252]

I support running the dirt race on Easter. On Easter, TV eyes are more significant than butt's in seats, so you can get away with way less seats, or maybe even no seats at all. They could try it at the Dirt Track at Charlotte, since it's close to home for most teams and most of the infrastructure is in place for the other facilities.

[@jeremeymcdude]

Knoxville Raceway had one of the best Dirt Truck races over the entire tenure of the Truck Series on Dirt. not to mention that Knoxville would absolutely love another packed house weekend. Those people make tons just on the fact that they go to the races and get money from people to park in their yards. Knoxville loves their track like North Wilkesboro loves theirs.

[@MiamiMallAlien]

Yeah I thought the knoxville truck races were fun too don't get the negativity. The higher talent cup field would put on a great show there

[@budsodastories]

Well, if NASCAR got off their high horse. You allows some simple modifications for short tracks And dirt, I don't think it would be an issue but like you said they don't want to change.

[@DuaneStaveley]

Bingo.

[@Sammy-y2e]

Nascar is a lame organization invest in other types of racing namely short track racing

[@hunterjessup]

S1apsh0es videos > actual NASCAR

[@b-zoneonroku2020]

Vaporwave Smooth Operator by Sade, impressive!

[@Mikey-xz4vn]

Im of the opinion that NASCAR should include: Ovals Road Courses Dirt Tracks/RallyCross Rally (point-to-point) on both paved/unpaved routes