THE cEDH DECKS WE'RE PLAYING

[@kenlikescarbs]

Moments of silence for decks that f*cking suck: very important

[@gobenku1464]

"I think Nadu's here to stay" Another moment of silence for our boy

[@AliB.-kd7mt]

May he rest in piss.

[@jacobh4077]

Finally! After months of waiting, we get the highly anticipated episode: Cam and Dylan talking about Star Wars!

[@alecsappenfield8187]

Can y’all please make a little side podcast called, “We talk about things we have an amount of knowledge on.” I could watch you two ramble about things you almost know about for hours.

[@calikillednoxgaming9606]

This is absolutely a phenomenal idea

[@hunterhamiltondvdscv2323]

Play to win at life? New pateon pod?/alongside chill to win? Yall are just a vibe

[@IndienessExperiments]

Would you believe that during the moment of silence for Kenrith my WiFi disconnected and I wasn’t paying attention and just thought it was a 5 minute long mom of silence. I said to myself. Geez these guys really taking this moment seriously

[@MrFairbanksak1]

Lmao, that's funny

[@craigfernandez4433]

Grievous is the Droid general for the seperatist army. He works directly under Dooku, but could never be a Sith Lord due to him being a cyborg. Dooku always tried taking on an apprentice in the clone wars, but the emperor always made him cut his connection to them when they got too strong (asaj ventress)

[@Putrefax]

Bruh what is this talk about cyborgs disqualifying you from being a sith, Vader is like mostly robot lol. Grievous wasn't a sith because he didn't study or embrace the ways of the force, he just used lightsabers

[@craigfernandez4433]

@@Putrefax seems like ya don’t know too much about Star Wars. Anakin was already very strong in the force and only had three limbs replaced with robotic parts. Grievous literally had midichlorians fused into his cyborg process by Dooku to try making him force sensitive. But that failed and Dooku gave up hope on him

[@laytonjr6601]

​@@PutrefaxGrivious can't be a Sith because he isn't force sensitive

[@Catbus-Driver]

@@craigfernandez4433 Technically it has nothing to do with being a cyborg tho. Cyborgs can be force sensitive, Grievous just was too far gone to make the connection with the force. The other thing that everyone seems to forget, is even if he was force sensitive, he couldn't be a sith lord because of the rule of two. Which opens up the possibility that Palpatine wouldn't want Grevious to be force sensitive because that would mean either him or Dooku would have to die. The same reason Dooku was so hesitant to treat Ventress as his true apprentice. That's an entirely different rabbit hole to go down, but either way, being a cyborg has nothing to do with being a sith. It's all about the connection.

[@Defileri]

Dylan keeps saying he's a seperate thing but should say he's a separist thing ..

[@jacob3521]

Its incredibly helpful that you guys are starting to participate in more tournaments and playing more meta decks, since we can see how to play and play against more prevalent decks in the format as an audience. Thanks guys!

[@TheCodingle]

Cam playing metamorphosis for etali made me jump for joy. I've been judged by all my friends but now I can tell them all to eat piss lmao

[@timkoHRMNY]

I put Yuriko back together a few weeks ago and it feels SO good right now. I highly recommend putting it back together. That said, I was typing this as you mentioned ob nix.... my boi... he's also fantastically fun,

[@Brandon-zq3wh]

I got yuriko but it has issues ending the game. Starts off super strong then falls off. Also some really unlucky flips.

[@alainlamour5868]

Stax variant of Yuriko is very effective rn

[@Brandon-zq3wh]

@@alainlamour5868I'm not familiar with the list for it. What are some key cards it's using?

[@mk5257]

Decklist or it didnt happen

[@faperito2389]

What do you run in that? Mind sharing a list my man?

[@BrashM]

Magda is insane rn. Stax for the turbo decks and hard to interact with for the midrange decks. Wins consistently, just top 4’d the most recent event I went to.

[@l0ckbehindyo140]

i like how this has aged in the 2 weeks its love

[@Craaaaaaig]

Ten thousand words, by the Avett Brothers, perfectly sums up the theme of the podcast, and I'm here for it!

[@michaelwilson3418]

Ob Nixilis has been my Etali. That deck it’s just insanely fun to pilot and Ob just provides so much value

[@Xoderfla]

tl;dr Loving the content keep it up, DECK RECOMMENDATIONS: Azami, lady of scrolls ///// Gyome, master chef for random food shenanigans I haven't even play cedh yet but I'm living for these podcast right now, i just recently started playing over webcam and I'm looking to play my first cedh games soon, love the content. now is my time to recommend decks for a format i don't know much about lol: With the mono/low color support we got in mh3 I've think about Azami, lady of scrolls alot for high power/ cedh, you can play new Harbinger of the Seas (blue blood moon), winter moon (just 1 non-basic untap per turn), and the good old back to basics, maybe not all at once but some combination of those, aside from that you can have instant speed wins with Borne Upon a Wind and valley floodcaller (+floodcaller is a wizard that untaps itself and draw cards with Azami) you get to run a couple extra free / pitch spells like commandeer and foil since you can keep your card advantage with Azami, overall one of my fav commanders. For a more weird idea i've playing a Golgari food deck using Gyome, master chef as my commander with a bunch of combos for higher power edh, i don't really think Gyome is good enough for cedh but the combos are really resilience once i setup i can present one or more wins for 3 to 4 consecutive turns, the main combos are peregrin took + experimental confectioner having 3 foods in the field to draw your whole deck and winning from there, and warren soultrader with cauldron familiar and either peregrin took or academy manufacturer to loop the familiar and drain the table, there are more weird and/or convoluted combos but you have no dead cards since everything is synergizing with the food theme to gain value. for cedh maybe adding white with sam and frodo partners can make it better, getting the white staples + another combo with the samwise gamgee and cauldron familiar, in short it kinda reminds me of sisay style play since it has some lines that can win from nowhere and even from instant speed (for some reason this still blows my mind) and also a bit of magda since you have uncommon / resilience combos.

[@quackquack2809]

Came for the CEDH content, stayed for the hilarious, best friend banter. Always love seeing new vids from you guys!

[@michaelsilvester1567]

You guys got me into play cEDH, I've built two decks so far, Ratadrabik and and Helga (from bloomburrow). I'm having so much fun on these decks to experience the format with.

[@Nidrog]

Even though I'm not a cEDH player, this was super interesting to listen to while doing a bit of brewing myself.

[@esimplx]

I would love to see Marneus on the channel! I have actively brewed with him since his release and I think he has always been a better deck than tivit. Definitely too slow for the meta now, but he was incredible in midrange hell.

[@PrimeShifter]

Sleeves and weebs plays that deck

[@PrimeShifter]

Sleeves and dweebs

[@neverpaythe1]

Recently got into cEDH, amazing content discussing the meta decks and cards under consideration in them. Just finished putting together a Vial Smasher/Ishai deck that feels pretty strong

[@simonlloyd-jones4199]

For the last couple of months I've been enjoying playing Clue Farm Cat (Bjorna//Wernog + Lurrus) and Jeskai Possibility Storm (The War Doctor//K-9). Loads of fun!

[@JoshBagwell]

I currently have Ghave as my cEDH primary (it's from about 10 years ago) and currently building Gaddock Teeg. Your tips are great. Thank you for that :)

[@balisongsingin2498]

I love the analogy of codie with a sledgehammer forcibly creating a window😂😂😂

[@lightningcreep]

I’m trying K’rrik for the first time this weekend, in a vacuum it seems good, it can go very fast if you get the chance.

[@z3r0cedh]

Dylan! It was nice meeting you at Diamond in the Rough. Shame I couldn’t get a game with any of you Play to Win guys.

[@biggeekreview]

After rewatching some older gameplay of y'alls Yuriko deck (and getting beaten by her like a Cherokee drum in local cEDH tournaments last month), I put together Yuriko and it is really fun. Good change of pace from my regular play style, and I added a bit of flare with more clone effects/copy spells to add some flexibility in the early game facing the current RogSi meta.

[@faperito2389]

Do you have a list to share by chance mate?

[@biggeekreview]

@faperito2389 I don't have one on Moxfield yet but the only major changes from Dylan's list are cards like Narset's Reversal, Twincast, all the 2 mana blue clones and Leyline of Anticipation. It has played relatively well in my playgroup copying Ad Naus effects and other big mana plays on the stack with the copy spells and the clones just add to the tempo plays pretty well. I'll try to toss it into a moxfield list sometime this week and share!

[@rws3191]

Ms. Bumbleflower food chain is a fun deck. Might be worth looking into at for a 4th deck

[@eglacialis6782]

There is a difference between Nadu and Gitrog. Nadu can theoretically whiff. The gitrog combo can not whiff, but the order in which cards are milled might matter for interaction.

[@raulgabagool]

Holiday world shirt 🫡😂 Great place grew up 30 min from the park. So many fun times there growing up! Cam is a true roller coaster fan for this

[@PlaytoWinMTG]

One of my favorite parks of all time! Can't wait to go back and ride their new coaster, hopefully next year!

[@dekumooney9764]

hey cam I have a birgi, storyteller in the deck so when you cast one of the free thing off etali so you will Gain about 2 to 3 red mana from it

[@BigHat501]

I would love to see more yuriko on the channel. Also been loving marneus recently!

[@chiappinkius6099]

On the "75 nadu triggers" i lost everything and fell from the chair 😂😂

[@eloquentsilence6572]

Dying to see Dylan pilot the new rakdos commander Valgavoth, Harrower of Souls. Elder Demon, where if you can turn 1 a player-wide pinger, turn 2 commander (or even just turn 1 commander due to fetch lands or vamp tutor), you basically have a tymna, but huge flying beater. I put together a list and it’s been such a blast.

[@franslair2199]

It's a strictly worse ob nix, just play ob nix.

[@ethanterry6363]

Ulaleck fused atrocity would be a really cool version of blue farm having colorless as an addition with green but of course the downside of being one commander is to keep in mind

[@Gusta_Gustav]

Very interested in both commanders in the upcoming br precon. Valvagoth seems like it can be an interesting draw engine for a pinger strategy while the Lord of Pain seems great to push damage with the format keep on getting more and more free spells

[@Snamify]

I would love to see Cam playing Jeska/Ishai. Just for fun.

[@horacecampbell8483]

Sir Dylan cultist of the absolute is pure gas

[@Rizso1]

slaughter pact is amazing, love it when hullbreacker horror tends to be everywhere.

[@isaiahwright1963]

@dylan the dihada is in the list to kill your opponents through 1 ring protection during the superfriends win line with nicol bolas and Oath of teferi. I don't run the planeswalker line but that's another reason it was added since that line has to win in your own turn half the time.

[@kerithwooldridge]

Y'all should definitely build The Master of Keys! It's going to be a legit deck.

[@jvt3888]

I NEED more rambling off topic conversations.

[@noahwilliamlee]

Since you've informed us of your star wars knowledge you guys should consider playing Star wars unlimited in its constructed or Twin suns formats! Im a long magic player and have started playing it recently and its so much fun.

[@rogerrabbit132]

I've been trying an oldie but goodie in Chromatic Orrery in my Sisay list. It's busted once to get Orrery, Derevi, and Emiel onto the field. I've won multiple games with that combo.

[@pakspack973]

If they’re wanting to build a for fun deck, I’d love to toss in Satoru the infiltrator. Running all memnite, or walking ballistas lets you essentially play with a 81 card storm deck in Dimir

[@heirophantpm]

y'all just completely overlooking my boy Baylen! dude is nuts and allows for an amazing stax build that can still take advantage of the best cards in all its colors. if you need a list, hit me up! I'd love to join a stream 🙃🙃🙃

[@novaaze1975]

i will always recommend my favorite deck, K’rrik. so fast and so fun but can also slot into midrange pods and does some decent work vs nadu 👀👀👀

[@Donny-G]

The WURGB commander that reveals the top 7 and draws you all the enchantments... Could be a good food chain option and good value throughout the game and could play all the artifact hate and lean into the enchantment theme

[@jeffreyrector8899]

I love my prosper deck. I don't play cedh so I have no clue how well he will stand up but I would like to see a game play with him.

[@PrimeShifter]

Hey Cam You could add venerated rot priest For A third win con if you have lots of targeting spells

[@CD-sl7ld]

I'm currently in the process of building a Kadena Slinking Sorcerer cEDH deck. Super fun. Uncounterable counter spells. Uncounterable removal. Card draw in command zone. My nightmare table is grand arbiter and Lavinia Stax piles. Flash enablers go brrr.

[@tobiman50]

Build Yisan!!! I would love to you guys play my favorite deck!

[@skylarthoma5353]

Totally didn’t expect Gigadrone Dihada in cEDH. I love Sisay lol I was about to ask if you’re running Tyvar but then Cam mentioned it… this is why you get Top 16s and I don’t.

[@shayarun9977]

Um spoilers? Anakin becomes who?!

[@faperito2389]

😂😂😂

[@__E__]

I can vouch for Rakdos the Muscle, incredibly fun and explosive deck! It basically is to me what Etali is to Cam, maybe a bit better.

[@mgmed0368]

Definitely build derivi it’s an AMAZING time for derivi with cards like Nadu breakfast combo a lot of protected wins it’s one of the best one ring decks the commanders pretty resilient seems pretty good

[@Ravarix]

Cam should try Derevi Nadu. The en-kor lines are doable at instant speed. Can run Borne & Floodcaller

[@Szayek]

Ob Nixilis my boi, he is really fun please bring it more to the channel ;D

[@jacoblemmert8382]

I think the master of keys has potential to be a CEDH commander and would love to see that if the deck materializes

[@tomcourtney4206]

Question for Cam... Do you think there's a world where Roxanne Starfall Savant can fill a similar role to Etali in being a Gruul "Turbo out your Commander and execute a food chain loop or a dockside/sabertooth loop to infinite etb your commander and win" kind of vibe? Im still trying to convince my pod (that plays mostly "trash magic" ie high power 'casual') to dip their toes into cEDH, and think she'd be a fun start

[@jodylester9118]

If y'all are looking for a wild 4th deck, I've been on that Erinis list that's been going around recently, and it's a BLAST.

[@c0smizon]

I’ve been slowly building a paper nahdude, it’s genuinely so much fun. Happy to see the bird mentioned. Also, I would find it so bullshit if nadu gets banned before something like dockside. That just seems dumb to me.

[@c0smizon]

this aged like milk.

[@Lazergician]

If you want to scroll way down the list to find fun decks, I HIGHLY recommend Kalamax. Drowning in value and always winning counter wars while beating face with Etali's dino cousin kicks ass.

[@Yukamii]

If they mill you out with brainfreeze you can still grace before you draw your " card" so unless they force a draw your grace still sets you up for that play.

[@scottsabado3669]

idk why but that shirt makes Dylan look snatched

[@crimsonking905]

Thada adel looks fun, and the jolly balloon man has some potential

[@rayven2377]

Slimefoot and Squee! Would love to see a cEDH version of it as I've loved playing it at higher power casual tables.

[@anytime32-1]

Please make a Marneus Calgar deck!

[@RhoxCaptain]

I have been loving a Sauron the Dark Lord list I have

[@jonnybirch2268]

Dylan, what do you think about Dynaheir, Invoker Adept in Sisay? It seems fantastic to me, three pips for Sisay, haste enabler, and copies a Sisay activation. Any thoughts about it?

[@dillonrodriguez1575]

Don’t know if this will be seen, but could y’all do an episode or comment thread on how to get into Cedh. Is it a lot of proxies, do people have the actual cards? The free artifacts and fast mana and cheap search cards are all priced pretty high. Seems like average cedh deck can be in the 1000 of dollars. How can someone get into the format without breaking the bank?

[@flukenukeem]

cEDH is very proxy friendly, far more so than casual EDH. This is because we would have no one to play with if you couldn’t proxy! You can even use the Playtest feature in Moxfield to play on Spelltable. A lot of people at my LGS just use mtgprint and cut them out and slot the cards in front of lands. Then do a bulk order using mpcfill when they want to keep the deck for a while. Finally, they will slowly collect some of the cards through trades, purchases, etc. I was building “budget cEDH” decks for awhile before I realized I was an idiot and everyone else was using proxies

[@FrankPalombo]

Geyadrone is my rule zero commander Both of you could make strict rule zero decks. Lotho Volo (sanz Red) is nuts.

[@TheCodingle]

Suggestion for Dylan. Just recently built a Tana tevesh jund protean hulk list also a razaketh deck that uses my own little combo I've grown fond of which is eternal witness phyrexian altar and not dead after all. Love the deck no breach but I run praetors and tainted pact for either stealing a Thassa or breach

[@williambennett4481]

If draws change such that they no longer give any points, it could make Nadu slightly worse if players don’t scoop early and force the Nadu to try and win before time.

[@BisyBackson365]

Tyler, you should look at Phelia, honest rutstien, neoform and Talion

[@maze4465]

I'm torn between putting heliod together or continuing with yuriko. Still need a handful of cards for yuri but omly have like half the cards for Heliod. He just seems so fun personally and would love to see it on the channel often

[@asap_woke]

I think if there is a shift to Stax that Yasharn needs to be in the conversation - great T1 commander that gets you two lands.

[@Bloodrisesx]

Gev sounds really fun and would be cool to see built cEDH is it can be

[@K0L1]

Listening this episode after the bans was kinda funny 😅😢

[@hunterstrong3318]

The new rakdos valgavoth has my interest for my nekusar deck.

[@ZachWay]

Yall gotta have the top 4 decks and 1 Food Chain deck because FOOD CHAIN WINS GAMES

[@DerpyLaron]

I had a slight hope that Cam would put Magda back together, but sadly I doubt that it will happen as long as Etali stays together

[@saubralee8072]

The angel's grace is also very good because the rog/si decks play 3 of those extra turn, lose the game effects.

[@eastonmorrill6904]

Build a sefris stax deck! Esper stax has a lot of good pieces, and clean win lines!

[@NV_3]

I live in VT and you were out here Dylan?! 🙃

[@mikenixon3390]

Consider Flip Heliod! Wheels and feels

[@hemsey9051]

Brallin and shabraz definitely still feels like the kid brother to Jeska Ishai

[@codydavis874]

Never been a fan of blue farm, but know its good, so looking at putting togethet clue farm. We will see how it goes lol

[@alanrois7941]

I got to move away of Blue Farm, now I am a Simic guy, playing Kinnan and Nadu

[@exultedone650]

Kinda funny, I JUST put Kenrith together, and took apart Thrasios/Dargo. I don't have a lot of people near me that play cEDH, but I tend to stick to decks that I enjoy

[@johnathonconner8823]

I've been super big on k'rrik, son of Yawgmoth!

[@FullRoy2326]

With the ban announcement today, I sure hope that Cam didn't already start building his paper version of Nadu 😅

[@LeonardThiemeyer]

What do you guys think of Stella Lee? Haven‘t heard you guys talk about her. Build her myself and she seems quiet potent. Can win easily on turn 2-3 if the commander sticks.

[@lonerozz]

HOLIDAY WORLD MENTIONED 😤😤😤

[@shayarun9977]

Also cam you can also literally worldy tutor for scute swarm in gitrog.(it's not good but you know what I mean)

[@stevekeenan9673]

Got a tymna Kraum deck and just picked up a Roghragk Silas etched foils as many of the cards seem to overlap

[@daguynexdoor]

Let's see a marneus calgar! I live esper but agree that I don't care for tivit either

[@adambourque4003]

The Kenrith slander this episode is unreal.

[@invitedmonster8]

As long as Nadu is in the format Stax will not come back.... yes a Null Rod/ouphe puts a Stick in the spokes of Nadu.. at some points they do not care via bounce or an Alt Target effect. But due to its passive value it can generate Stax has no functional effect on the deck that is shaping the format.

[@SplodingGames]

I wanna see some love for Edgar Markov. I never see it anymore and I know it's not Uber tier, but I love him.

[@moralessanchezoscarelias6412]

One to embody power, the other to crave it.

[@zweis]

11:11 Delney is an Egyptian God card in Tymna Kraum