THE TOP 10 CARDS WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT

[@jmarksthespot]

Cameron learned how to zoom and it’s actually hilarious

[@Myrical32007]

Lmao Ikr 😂.

[@harrieyeet5663]

Frrr

[@Phoeveryoung]

must have had to kill time editing on the flight

[@skylarthoma5353]

37:15 and the next 20 seconds had me rolling 😂

[@austinroy-stewart1268]

9:55 the zoom in cuts of Dylan's "ooh" "yes" "yea" was so funny

[@mitchelllatimer1508]

The little zoom edits had me chuckling at work lol

[@AlthalusKanemtg]

I think the editor has found out how to zoom in on the videos ;)

[@Krigsministern]

Just to explain Dylans Rain of Filth and Necro line incase someone else was wondering. Necro puts the cards in your hand at the beginning of your next end step and Rain of Filths until end of turn lasts until the clean up step.

[@the_wake_]

"Emergence Zone and Six" sounds like a wild team up.

[@skylarthoma5353]

Love hearing you guys gush about cards. Especially since it’s not the absolute cream of the crop; you’ve taught me that cEDH is about HAVING FUN with optimized cards, and I can’t thank you enough for that

[@laurelkeeper]

cEDH, like any other part of Magic, like any game, should be fun. If you’re not having fun, you should maybe find something else to do.

[@InsanityStreak95]

I think the interaction with Welder to have a turn 2 Citadel Online is amazing. Welder itself isnt even a dead card. You can pitch it to Flare or any other ritual etc, you can use it to bring back mana rocks to have more fast mana on turns, to even switch out the one ring when the burden counters get too big late game (if it comes to it) and even putting opponents artifact stack piece into the bin... There's no feel better move when you do a switcheroo with a players Graftdiggers/Weathered Runestone/Canonist and then proceed to go off haha.

[@crazykhespar8487]

This is starting out with "All the cool mana stuff you were doing in your Korvold list before we shot him out of a cannon and into a wall" RoF is dope, Orcish Lumberjack too. Been using them in Korvold since dockside came out and I started playing him. RoF was a cantrip and a ritual...

[@B-rad2424]

The disrespect to the the jolly balloon man got me ready to throw down some games with the doubters lol

[@whitwhitmore7921]

Malevolent Rumble and Culling Ritual...you should want to talk about those cards.

[@paulcurran302]

I’ve been looking into Yarok more recently as a commander, sort of as a pod/combo deck. Losing jeweled lotus and mana crypt hurts the deck a lot, but I still think it’s really interesting. Yarok has a hidden one-card infinite with both Spellseeker and Micromancer that just requires you get them onto the battlefield (either through pod or hard casting) and then have one blue, one black open. It goes something like Spellseeker to get Essence Flux + Sacrifice, blink the Spellseeker with Essence Flux to get Entomb + Persist, Sacrifice the Spellseeker to made BBB, entomb an archaeomancer/scholar of the new ages/timeless witness/eternal witness, then Persist it to grab Sacrifice and Persist, and loop forever for infinite mana and etb/death triggers. Micromancer works the same way but you have to use Unearth instead of Persist and it is required that you entomb Eternal Witness. I’m still new to cEDH but it might be interesting to see Yarok pop up. The combo does work with any extra etb effect, but yarok is in prime colors and has it in the command zone. Keep an eye out for that 👀

[@havardharaldsen332]

It is a very cool and unique combo! However, it is also just Inalla Wizard combo, but you are required to play and keep your 5 mana commander on the field. Seems unappealing in comparison, unfortunately.

[@zekekook]

I literally just built this deck a few weeks ago lmao, but I'm playing it more as a reanimator type deck, with yarok out reanimating broodlord just wins you the game on the spot, especially since with saw in half you're getting 6 tutors off of one card

[@paulcurran302]

@@havardharaldsen332the difference with Inalla is green gets pod effects. It’s kind of a trade off, inalla’s probably better, but Yarok has some other cool tech

[@toxicgaming003]

I like how this episode seemed like a "we're a lil delirious from planning events" and just havin fun goofin. Much love on the content :)

[@cianlacy6515]

Orcish lumberjack was one of my absolute favorite cards when I first started playing, it was one of the cornerstones of my gruul deck before I understood how powerful quick ramp was lol

[@zninja12345]

All the tiny funny edits still make these podcasts for me. Came for the content and stayed for you guys.

[@Karste1n]

My favorite kind of podcast is watching you talk about your favorite cards, great episode

[@geraldr.collins7788]

Jolly Balloon Man also combos with Village Bell-Ringer, which actually fits ok into Sisay

[@baconsir1159]

You also need a dork

[@orvar7035]

We did it guys We broke village bell ringer

[@DROSTAR123]

As funny how the zooms can be, i feel they a bit over done

[@randywright7764]

Zoom cuts made me a little sick

[@runeserpent1449]

i really like this podcast topic, theres just been so many new cards getting released that coming back and checking up on some of them is very intresting. Six has been my fav card but havnt saw any content for him after release xD

[@darkdragon4612]

Orcish lumberjack can be used for flare of duplication which I think is something to keep in mind comparing it to rain of filth

[@FraggleRockss]

Love just hearing these two (and Tyler if available next time) waffle on about random cards they like. I could listen to this for hours

[@ozannagames]

I had Six on my Bloodpod deck. Recurring Drannith Magistrate, Archon of Emeria, and my Swords to Plowshare is so good in buying time for me to find my win. Edit: not STP but Solitude. The STP on a stick

[@SeriosSkies92]

Six only works on permanents. so your plowshares is pretty gy locked.

[@ozannagames]

@@SeriosSkies92 my bad I meant Solitude. STP on a stick

[@mitchelschafer1347]

How do you recur swords? Six only lets you get permanents?

[@SeriosSkies92]

@@mitchelschafer1347 they said solitude was the intent.

[@longdangley]

Shifting Woodland is AMAZING imo!

[@bishopcorney1352]

Loved the little zoom cuts for emphasis

[@dekina1198]

talking about different color versions of orcish lumberjack made me thing about different versions of Imperial Recruiter and Recruiter of the guard. be basically have spellseeker as the blue version but with the "wrong" naming. the green one could look for a creature with mana value 2 or less and the black one could look for any creature but you loose life equal to it's mana value

[@samarbrander981]

I am so glad to see flood caller getting more hype, that card has been the best card in my inalla deck since it came out

[@hulloclayton6685]

The zoom cuts take me out of the immersion of me being in a conversation with Cam and Dylan lol

[@harrycannon2661]

Six has a pretty cool combo with Groundskeeper and LED!

[@Uefeti]

Wait whats the combo? Don’t you need to generate 2 lands in hand to loop it?

[@harrycannon2661]

@ you need Six, Groundskeeper, and LED in play with at least one basic land in hand or in grave. Activate LED discarding your hand and generating GGG. Activate Groundskeeper spending GG to return a basic land from grave to hand. Discard the basic to pay the Retrace cost for LED and cast it for 0.

[@harrycannon2661]

You’ll net one G each loop and can eventually pay to Retrace every card out of your grave

[@Uefeti]

@@harrycannon2661 Oh! Now I get it. For some reason I thought you need to sacrifice groundskeeper for that ability. Thats a neat combo! Thanks for the explanation

[@Dafins100]

The channel is quickly becoming a Rog Si podcast 😂

[@JoshBagwell]

We need to talk about the best combo breakers. I keep an Angel's Grace in all of my white decks SPECIFICALLY for Thoracle.

[@smack80]

"When you have land, thats when you use rain of filth" lava hot take on a card from 1998. Steaming.

[@Rizso1]

flare duplication has been a fun combo piece with reanimation spells and pinnacle monk.

[@alex7107]

you guys didnt talk about it but damn vexing bauble feels better and better in slower decks

[@TheLimedew]

On Rain of Filth, been trying it in my rogsi like Dylan and ngl everytime ive had it i wished it was just another better ritual or something else, even when i have 30+ cards in hand it stays in the back cus there are better or other things to cast. Still gonna keep trying it but it seems alright. Ive been trying Pyretic Ritual, Stormkiln Artist, and Crystal Vein and theyve been really good so far. Stormkiln when you got a bunch of red and no way to convert to blue is actually pretty insane. If you can get him down before a big ad naus turn or necro it can be a cake walk.

[@Crustgg]

@@TheLimedew hard to consider 4 mana engines in rog si. But SKA is just so strong… Maybe you’re onto something here 🤔

[@TheLimedew]

@@Crustggyeah that was truly the reason justifying him is hard lol but im just trying him out seeing how he spins. Idk if it was the right play but i took out mindbreak for it.

[@DrukenReaps]

A blue producing Orcish Lumberjack could hold up some counterspells I think but there are already a good number of effectively free counters....

[@drewlongbrakevibes]

I love how Flare of duplication was brought up, and praised, but some of the other functionality of duplication spells was not mentioned. I know you guys don't like copy spells that much, but it can come in clutch when your opponents are least expecting the red player to have a protective "copy your counterspell and counter it." For free or hell, maybe just 3 Mana "actually my spell does resolve and I win"👌

[@letswatchification]

Hands down best mtg channel

[@alanschellenberger9356]

Dylan i think Citadel needs the right home. it's less good in blue decks because you run counterspells. it's really good in Mardu, especially Tymna Jeska because you end up playing lots of cards that help you loot because of the reanimator/worldgorger deck design. i agree it's less good in rogsi but probably still a solid storm engine

[@novaaze1975]

it's really good in k'rrik lol

[@CHoustonify]

The Rograkh conversation gave me an idea: partners, ranked.

[@ruhrohrhyno8444]

A bit late to the video but I’m dying to know your guys thoughts on copy artifact! I never see it played but I really love it. Its floor is a meh rock, copying arcane signet or sol ring, but its ceiling is copying the one ring. In my pod, the one ring is out basically every game at some point, so copy artifact and phyrexian metamorph have been insanely clutch

[@The_Metalcrafter]

@12:50 Floodcaller also combos with helix pinnacle

[@coreyhayslip5418]

Retraction helix is the card you're looking for

[@joshbailey7775]

Jolly balloon man is Art the Clown. Prove me wrong.

[@Uri6060]

I just realized rain of filth + faith's rewards was a thing. I need to play that deck in casual now lmao.

[@Xoderfla]

so just first and quick comment I'm here for the little zooms and i love it

[@GiacomoSanti]

Hi guys, love the content. I hear you talking about win turn 2 a lot, so here comes the question. When should a deck win to be a cedh deck? an for it to be tcedh?

[@ryantomczak2248]

Your deck should be capable of winning fast. It doesn’t need to be the central strategy of your deck, but having the option is nice. There decks designed to go for wins turn one so being able to keep pace with them is essential, especially in tedh.

[@allbadmanners]

Hear me out, Bolas's Citadel in Yuriko but only if you're running extra turn spells. Also hear me out, dark petition in Yuriko but we're also back on DOOMSDAY as one of our win cons.

[@UserName-rh4wm]

What is described in 11:45 doesn't work. The moment you discard, and with the necropotence trigger on the stack, all "Until end of turn" effects expire because you are past the "end of turn". You are in the cleanup step. Because of this, you can no longer sac the land.

[@UserName-rh4wm]

Check rules 514.2 and 514.3a

[@lightningcreep]

Found this out recently myself, cleanup step is after end of turn abilities are removed, and priority only goes back around after a triggered ability like necro goes on the stack

[@biopouvoir]

The whole point of Borne upon the Wind is that you don't go to cleanup and discard. You draw your necro cards and hope to find a Borne upon them, so that you can continue to play your hand of 30 cards during your end step.

[@xxthevampirate]

I think that thassa’s is best however if you don’t have black, other strategies that draw your deck should have a win line other than thassa’s. I don’t think I’m running it in Temur and Simic decks like kinnan (Nadu preban) and some others I’m trying. Tutoring for a 3 mana 2 card combo is pretty close to Flash hulk power level. I’ve been back and forth on emergence zone, born made me try it a lot but I’ve been cutting it out of virtually every deck (I have it in my kinnan but nothing else). I’ve been trying out a kinnan Stax heavy deck and it’s been fun but not Tournament ready. I’d like to know if kinnan wants to go faster or slower, every Roger deck makes me cross my fingers and I’ve been happy against most other commanders.

[@HunterLikesSoda]

I’m still newer to magic. For orcish lumberjack, are you allowed to tap a forest floating a green, then sacrifice it and technically come out with 4 mana? Or can you not sacrifice a tapped land or do it in that order

[@MrSeismitoad]

You totally can, it doesn't specify an untapped land. That's what allows for a turn two ad Nauseum (5 mana total), you can play one land a turn, tap both for mana, then sacrifice one for 3 to get 5 total.

[@Crustgg]

Still want to make citadel work. The ceiling is just sooooo high, getting it out with necropotence is almost always GGs. Trying out brainstorm again to help facilitate

[@TheLimedew]

Ive never thought of this for some reason! The idea is you just necro away every card you dont want off the top and cast the ones you do want with the Citadel right? sounds crazy

[@Crustgg]

@@TheLimedew you’re right on the money!

[@Temzilla2]

I had a "mono black" golos deck at some point in 2020 that used citadel and necro to win with a big gray merchant, depending on your first couple turns you just went and got nykthos or coffers and went off to the races.

[@InsanityStreak95]

Just run the Welder list, I run it and it works a treat :).

[@ljlk8583]

What do you guys think about the commander rules committee members announcement? It's cool to see a decent amount of cedh players on the committee, and I personally was super happy to see rebel on it!

[@AMerexican787]

How many more lands/cards with powerful abilities need to be printed before some version of stifle becomes worth it? Alternatively what else would a new version need to do/cost to be worth it?

[@PickledTyrant]

I love these dudes

[@healthylife1499]

I love the red shirt!😊

[@ghost64626]

I love dark petition in Rowan.

[@alex7107]

like the rowan from wilds of eldraine?

[@ghost64626]

@@alex7107 yep!

[@JSordetto]

I’m here for the zooms

[@jplxlabelle1681]

Shifting Woodlands has no better target than Dark Depths. This makes it competitive again in the right list.

[@TripsAhoy]

My boy Gaddock Teeg should be on this list! He's just too damn good!

[@TylerYoutubeGamingChannel]

Damn the boys learned how to edit looks good

[@OBZEDAT]

Phenomenal podcast topic

[@bartolomeotucci4653]

The zoom feature will be meta defining playtowin videos

[@byoutifulmonster]

Hey Cam are you planning on updating your Jeska, Ishai deck post ban?

[@koreyg8552]

Rain of filth was a staple in ad naus decks a few years ago, not sure why it stopped being played

[@christianlei2519]

Me main decking sudden spoiling to counterplay thassas and flood caller lines.

[@mattabrams3841]

The Wawa shirt goes crazy

[@skullkrusher-dx4kg]

We need a dark oettition win on the channel.

[@tedheuchling9663]

Tasigur could be a cool deck for sultai turbo necro

[@FERALTREEFOLK]

You guys are amazing! The unhinged digressions are incredible

[@kenlikescarbs]

it'd be really crazy if they put a Flare of Duplication in the command zone 🧐🧐🧐

[@deucemoose7852]

@33:30 shaking my head in disappointment. Everyone knows that a tie in CEDH means everyone gets one point. So all 10 cards are equally good. It's like you don't even know your own game~ haha

[@truniq6422]

Every Friday Baby!!!

[@SeriosSkies92]

that summoning sickness thing ruins floodcaller so badly for me.

[@casuallycommander]

The zooms are sending me lmao

[@letswatchification]

ELITE WAWA SHIRT

[@pitman3090]

Dylan where can I find your rog/si list??

[@Persy55]

When you guys are talking about the best red cards my though was: to make a red card good it has to cost no mana or win you the game 😂

[@madazander]

I want to add to the zooming conversation here. I love it for the little jokes, like “yeah, yeah, yeah” but I also think you maybe overused it during regular conversation in this episode, imo.

[@thehitchickersbro1]

I usually treat this as a podcast, do yall move the camera like this normally? Its interesting lol

[@jadenepic9675]

Ive played a value thoracle more times than id like to admit

[@elisgillberg9002]

Will you guys talk about the new marvel secret lair cards?

[@Ja-w-ha]

I hope they unban Golos, I want to play a 5 color lands deck so badly. There are soo many new and powerful lands, channel lands, mdfcs. The synergy is there but where's the commander?

[@makeout_hill]

Cold today Cam?

[@pequenovitor]

Guys, honestly, I don't play cEDH. I don't really even understand abou 25% of what you guys talk about. But the two of you together.... Omg. I can't stop watching. I wanna kiss you both on the mouth you're so adorable together. If you were talking about fly fishing I would watch this. ❤

[@SylveonSimp]

Você perdeu dizer "no homo".

[@healthylife1499]

This was funny!!!!😂❤

[@worstcaseofcrabsever5510]

Goblin welder just sucks? Ummm... No sir. I have to laugh at that. Also sometimes you are just wanting to say "rog" but you say "Rog-Sy". Maybe just a habit phrase. Your brain has the two cards stuck together. In case you didnt know, Rograkh, son of Rahgahh can be partnered with other partner creatures besides Silas Renn, Seeker Adept. Did I just blow your mind? I don't think because a card is "in more decks" makes it better. More is not better. Emergence zone and rain of filth are very situational. They can and will screw you sometimes. Badly need a color? emergence zone you lose. Low on mana? rain of filth is dead. Go for the win with filth and get stopped? Uh-oh.

[@Farticuno69]

WaWa shirt goes crazy

[@VileoSufora4]

"Orcish Lumberjack pilled" Missed the obvious Orcish LumberJACKED

[@Sherpa127]

20:40 DougDimmadome Dihada is the name!!!

[@oscarperezcame]

honest quastion: is Thoracle really good? I believe the card is good for all the st*pid cards around it but I don't think it's that good on its own.. is not like a necropotence, Rhystic, etc

[@Dragostorm21]

it's one of the best possible combo payoffs since it doesn't die to removal. at worst it's much stronger lab man

[@loganfendt4197]

I love Squeaky Jikki

[@carlospadilla7247]

Why cant rog/si play yavimaya cradle of growth?

[@Enemyspartan22]

Dude, the zooming is cracking me up so bad

[@joshuajohnson2532]

The zoom edits are incredible 😂

[@lucasvanbakel2334]

these guys are so baked lol

[@danieldepass180]

The Zoom! 🤣

[@asn101]

Someone found the zoom button…

[@VvVLuffyM2]

This podcast really just enforces my opinions that the bans were bad because now were still talking about rograkh being the best deck and everything else is worse. I mean were using rain of filth unironically now. Really hoping the bans are reversed and the cards put in B4

[@lgsslicer8919]

Wawa fit goes hard

[@alvinhuber562]

Valley floodcaller is was better than Rain of Filth

[@turbo_vieja]

is or was intruder alarm a sisay card ever?

[@damo9961]

Remade my Korvold deck. I don't care. Fight me.