The Chinese Olympic Team Is A Mess

With the 2022 Winter Olympics just a few months away and with 100s of NHL stars expected to represent their countries at the Men's Hockey competition, much of the recent talk surrounding the event has regarded the tournament's hosts instead.
Since China's National Hockey Team were given an automatic place at the competition as they are hosting the event and given that China has never competed at the Olympic Hockey tournament before due to their 32nd world ranking, there are some legitimate concerns as to whether China will be completely humiliated by their NHL-calibre opponents at the event, let alone whether they actually deserve a place in the tournament!
So who is set to represent China at the Olympics, and why is the team so bad? Well in today's video, let's find out!
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[@MrLuchenkov]

As a Canadian, I appreciate the IIHF's efforts to recognize that the sport comes from Canada but giving us two teams at the next Olympics is a bit much.

[@brapbrapbrapo]

Hockey isn't Canadian. First played in the UK

[@MrLuchenkov]

@@brapbrapbrapo First organized ice hockey game: Montreal, 1875. It doesn't matter if some English blokes decided to skate on a pond by the manor house in 1836, sorry mate.

[@adamnash1770]

@@brapbrapbrapo then why aren’t there any UK players

[@noobmaster-wj3qm]

@@adamnash1770 there are, but they all suck

[@tballgame43]

@@brapbrapbrapo Lol you wish

[@loosecannon33tv]

Take a shot every time he says "a Canadian born of Chinese descent"

[@notcorruptions6534]

blacked out after 3 minutes

[@canadianthailand]

Id be drunk within the first 30 seconds

[@edwardburek1717]

Not only did half a bottle of tequila disappear, but when I recovered consciousness there were also a lot of bullet holes on the ceiling...

[@wild_insomnia]

chinese by birth,Canadian by force

[@Sockerfader]

I love you man, rly im srs *Hic*

[@nickross656]

I mean if the coyotes can play in the NHL then I don't see why China can't play in the Olympics

[@armandosoria7993]

Lol

[@dilanhammonds3818]

I think even the yotes would absolutely destroy the Chinese team

[@edenjung9816]

We a re on a 3 game winning streak and 6 points away form the canucks. So the comparison is really rude.

[@Atte093]

@@dilanhammonds3818 Tucson Roadrunners could easily destroy the Chinese team.

[@Sick_Boy_Rick74]

This gives me an idea…. Hear me out. We let China take the Yote’s and claim them as the national team. Maybe China would at least have a slim chance of at least winning or tying a game. BTW I’m a huge Avs fan and I really liked Brandon Yip when he played here. The goalie was trash but Yip was a good!

[@SubstanceP888]

Wow. A Chinese Olympic hockey team with literally zero Chinese people on it. Super legit and fun.

[@Uaene]

They have one LMAO

[@JJ-bi5qx]

They want the illusion of chinese players. Notice how its a lot of canadians with chinese heritage

[@ehpares39]

Even if it’s not legit they still will be destroyed! Imagine if they had a « legit » team

[@MyVolfik]

@@ehpares39 yeah We had the legit China team in Czech Republic. They played 3rd highest league And got destroyed. I think they had like 2points overall. They were losing by 10-20 goals by team average in thé 3rd league!

[@GarkKahn]

Well france won the fifa world cup with lots of africans so why not? Lol

[@OmarD1234321]

I love how the Chinese goalie at 1:12 is playing an international match for his country wearing a Team Canada helmet xD

[@cameron7441]

😂😂

[@markolitvic6981]

"There is an imposter among us."

[@newttella1043]

It's a knock -off team Canada helmet.

[@bryanwilson8396]

Cliff Pu played for the London Knights and is a very good player.

[@jeepcj7dude]

@@newttella1043 Made in China HAHAHAHAA

[@kj6446]

Even team Germany boasts great NHL players... not every player like US or Canada, but enough that they would steamroll China

[@ronryan7398]

If Germany stole one from Canada or the U.S. it would come a very interesting tournament real fast. Draisaitl vs. McDavid? Classic!

[@chrisbee9643]

The word "even" shows why we often beat US and Canadian teams the last few years. ;) Draisaitl, Stützle, Grubi are just the top. ;) The guys down the line are not to bad either. ;) And we are growing further. ;) wait some like 5 years and use even again, will make you look even more ridicilous by than. :) You should start taking the German Hockey Team for serious. ;) Or how often you want to fall to us. ;) We got Silver in multiple occassions since 2010. We are not Canada or Russia, BUT we sure can stick it to the both of them, even on their good days, maybe not on their best. ;)

[@villekiiski7978]

@@chrisbee9643 ;)

[@topiheimola69]

Germany would destroy China without any of their NHL players 10-0... Reigning Olympic silver medalists you know?

[@chrisbee9643]

@@topiheimola69 exactly.

[@jonathanbeaulieu3630]

Even the Iceland Team under Wolf Stansson would be better than China. With a superstar like Gunnar Stahl, they could give a better result hahaha

[@weatherwatchTX]

This is the most under rated comment in the section

[@beardupbeerdown7355]

THE GOALIE!

[@modernman7576]

Wolf "the dentist" Stansson

[@MrBiteme39]

He was so good he got a scholarship and became the goalie in under a summer for the eden hall varsity team

[@modernman7576]

@@MrBiteme39 just like that county attorney that charged Gordon Bombay with a dui ended up running one of the rides at the mall of America in D3 😄

[@MarkVrem]

The optics of removing the Chinese team from the Olympics on their own soil, and replacing it by a European team is pretty bad as well.

[@coffeetar]

Catch-22, either way, it's depressing

[@taxi615]

I'm all for the complete humiliation of the Chinese government they deserve 100% of what's to come 😝

[@topiheimola69]

Yeah I don’t think that will happen. I’m all for it though, let a more deserving and competitive country ice a roster... but then again I am curious as to how bad the Chinese will get their shit fed to them. Hopefully they can score a goal in the tournament, that’ll be a win already.

[@stlfatman]

@@taxi615 Too bad it's not the government playing on the ice, and just athletes doing their best.

[@coast2coast00]

@@topiheimola69 If goal total counts for a tie breaker, there will be strong motivation to not stop trying at 35 goals, if your competition gets 40 goals they could knock you out. I could see canada/us getting one goal every minute pretty easily. Or at least 3-4 shots every minute.

[@primoznovak8093]

Our national team player who played a couple of games for Kunlun said in an interview that the whole organization was a mess and that the chinese audience didnt even understand the game and didnt even understand when to cheer.

[@topiheimola69]

This was the case in the 1998 Nagano Olympics with the Japanese crowd too

[@Ryan-0413]

I remember watching that preseason game in China and it was hilarious, they got excited and cheered at the most random moments

[@steviebuilds1715]

Same with kraken fans.

[@Gamboosy]

Gotta start somewhere

[@snowyfox_01]

@@steviebuilds1715 it's not as bad though, they've certainly gotten better

[@boomshocks]

The sad reality is Draisaitl, Stutzle, Seider, and Grubauer alone could beat China's current team. If the team was only "actual" Chinese players... Draisaitl and Grubauer could probably take the entire team. It's pretty pathetic.

[@beardupbeerdown7355]

Grubauer's had one good game this season lol

[@PWNSdaily]

@@beardupbeerdown7355 bruh look at the team in front of him though

[@beardupbeerdown7355]

@@PWNSdaily they have more goals than the Leafs right now, in 2 less games

[@PWNSdaily]

@@beardupbeerdown7355 leafs are like bottom 6 in the league for goals for right now. That's not saying much

[@beardupbeerdown7355]

@@PWNSdaily top 5 in the standings says more

[@ovenproofgaming8183]

Italy used all canadian players back in 2006 olympics. No difference.

[@holoholopainen1627]

Like WHO ?

[@jmj7599]

I feel a little bad for these guys on the Chinese team. Of course, they want to play, they're professional athletes and prideful competitors. But we're talking about a situation where this team could very easily not even score a goal. Their participation would be a joke and embarrassment for the Olympics and for hockey in general. If they earned their way in, then whatever happens, happens. But being appointed a spot, well, it's going to be ugly.

[@flaviaocopeiro]

Thats like Qatar in the next world cup, although they did won the last asian cup so you could say that made them worthy of a slot

[@yuumsta]

Yeah, they are definitely going to be sent to a hard labor camp for 4 years after the embarrassment.

[@mikehozempa441]

You mean like Americans with football.... Haha compared to Canada thier NFL has a smaller field... Smaller ball... An extra down.... How much advantages do you need haha and your players are smaller.... And this is the Olympics... If you are a Country... You earned a spot to compete... Do you not understand what the Olympics are? You think teams have to compete to get a spot in the Olympics?? Hahaha holy....

[@LZR9]

@@mikehozempa441 you really think the CFL is better than the NFL🤣🤣🤣

[@mikehozempa441]

@@LZR9 hands down it is haha CFL... Bigger guys ..... Bigger fields.... Bigger ball (need bigger hands to throw and hold it.. understand why American balls are elementary school size balls haha plus our hits are alot bigger....

[@whiskeyecho3523]

IIHF: "Yeah you can play in the olympics, here's Canada, the US, and Germany" China Hockey: "You could have just said no"

[@Nesscalade]

Someone should teach Lebron how to skate. Im sure that He'll gladly suit up for China

[@revisals7210]

npc

[@jimmysox2260]

bruh

[@jordantaylor3597]

Wild 😭

[@jordantaylor3597]

Yea him and John Cena

[@walexander8378]

What did LeBron do to trigger you now?

[@numbnutz9398]

So what you are saying is China's team is actually Canadian. Sounds about right.

[@teamrogers1047]

Pretty much Team Canada’s Z squad

[@budwebster1031]

@@teamrogers1047 gonna be a Wok over

[@teamrogers1047]

@@budwebster1031 🤣🤣🤣

[@no-sq7rr]

honestly yall Canadians and Americans saying shits should be ASHAMED of yourself. I believe that at this level, its very embarrassing playing against the other advanced team for team china. but its their first time joining the hockey olympic and hockey was never their thing. in a warm temperature country like china, ice is almost impossible to make easily. I don't feel respected when it's their first time doing something. if you really like hockey and a big fan of hockey, you should feel proud off that other countries are participating and spreading love to it. instead, most of you in the comment sections are saying shits and thinking hockey is just for canada and us. just because us and canada have NHL doesn't mean you should talk shit about others. shame on yall.

[@budwebster1031]

@@no-sq7rr there is no NFL in Canada

[@nickhamilton389]

Hello, as someone who actually lives here in China. I think I can provide some real insight into this matter. As of right now, Ice hockey is most popular in Beijing and the three northeastern provinces of Heilongjiang, Jilin, and Liaoning. But ice hockey's popularity is slowly growing nationwide, and a large part of the reason it is growing is because of Kunlun Red Star. Many of the Kunlun Red Star matches are broadcasted on national TV here (CCTV 5). And Kunlun Red Star have played home matches in different parts of China from Beijing and even Harbin in the north to Shanghai and Shenzhen in the south. The result of this is that ice hockey has been slowly growing in national popularity. Last year, the yearly semi professional national ice hockey tournament in China was even hosted in the southwestern province of Yunnan, and millions of people from all over China tuned into the tournament. So what's my point. Ice hockey is growing in popularity here in China, and millions of Chinese children are taking up the sport, and what is needed to take the sport to the next level and get the ball rolling from hockey being a regional sport to a national sport is a major tournament like the Olympics. And this is why it's very important to have the Chinese Hockey team participate in the Olympics. I have heard a lot recently that China's hockey team is going to be blown out and they shouldn't compete because it's going to be an embarrassment, but I think all of these arguments are completely missing the point. Here in China the media talks about the Olympics and the ice hockey team a lot, and even here in China the media and all the hockey fans know that the Chinese team will probably be blown out in every game. But that doesn't matter. The children here who love ice hockey will be watching the games and they will see players like Mathews, McDavid, and Crosby, playing competitive games in China. They will see their favourite stars playing against Chinese players, and this will let them dream that it is possible for anyone, even if you come from China to play alongside or against the best players in the world. China's potential 3 blowout losses will still expose hundreds of millions of Chinese fans to the best of the best the sport has to offer. And let them dream that maybe one day they can play for the national team at the Olympics. If the Chinese team are pulled from the tournament, it would destroy all progress made over the past 5 years, and it would eternally relegate ice hockey to a regional hobby sport, as millions of Chinese hockey fans and potential players will feel nothing but bitterness and disappointment in the sport. So it doesn't matter if the games are all blowouts. The goal of the IIHF is to grow the game in China, and featuring a Chinese team, playing against the best players in the world is the best opportunity to do just that. 中国加油🇨🇳

[@MarkVrem]

Good point. They already support the team while it's down and out playing in the KHL. I'm sure they'll still support their downtrodden bunch in the Olympics as well. Also, imagine if they actually become respectable in the KHL one day.

[@redredmon8833]

I dare you to talk shit about the CCP

[@wildwilie]

I agree that they should be allowed to play. Blowout or not, we all have to come from somewhere. Im curious of what you think china feels about so many north american playing for china in the olympics and such.

[@ronryan7398]

I think that once the game is well in hand the NHL players will take the foot off the gas. No one gains anything by deliberately humiliating a team. Yes, there is the aggregate score, but how is it fun to do that to someone? The NHL players are there for the Olympic experience, part of that is (or should be) sportsmanship. Would the Chinese people appreciate that? If Canada was leading China 7-0 and they eased off would China see the sportsmanship in that?,

[@johnjohnmajortom]

Nice try CCP. China shouldn’t even be allowed to host the Olympics.

[@BillC-64]

So, bascially a beer league Team Canada.

[@twistedQC]

team canada # 500 maybe?

[@scottiepaterson192]

Canada's Z team mixed with China's best

[@jamesmalaky2622]

Team Canada's beer league team would still stomp this team.

[@scottfilbey7882]

Nice one!

[@winrar42]

Gunna be like watching the Spengler Cup. Half the European teams there are also Canadian teams

[@Oxmen33]

Two questions how long does it take to get Chinese citizenship, and does Tom Wilson know Chinese?

[@teamrogers1047]

😂😂😂

[@ThePianistONE]

they get the citizenship in matter of days but they still need to play 2 years for China in kunlun to be able to play for them in olympics

[@Swaghettiyolonese1]

Its pretty embarrassing for the IOC and the IIHF to be trying this hard to get a chinese hockey team running. Maybe we shouldnt be having winter olympics in countries that dont participate in the biggest winter sports. Or having them in countries that are committing literal genocide.

[@TheJinxCast]

It's not the fault of the athletes.

[@Swaghettiyolonese1]

@@TheJinxCast Thats funny, because I never said it was. I specifically placed blame on the IOC and the IIHF, while also shitting on the chinese govt.

[@kingnro1]

Money talks, in more ways than one

[@aarondevries6663]

@@Swaghettiyolonese1 -100 social credit

[@Swaghettiyolonese1]

@@aarondevries6663 can I get another -42059 social credit deducted? All hail emperor Xi. Bing chillin.

[@kgm4556]

I’m rooting for China now. If they win, Canada can brag that we won two medals 😂😂🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦👌

[@pepebeezon772]

A team of sellouts and NHL washed up losers? China should be humiliated on the world stage as often as possible because chicoms deserve it

[@daydreamer226]

Major Charles Emerson Winchester once said, "That's like being the best hockey player in Peru" We now have a substitute team

[@RevanBC]

Take any chance you get to embarrass the PPC on the world stage. There's nothing that the government fears more than anything is losing face.

[@TheJinxCast]

CCP, or PRC. You done F'd up mate

[@iitsLeaf]

..the PPC? I hope you mean the PRC.

[@lordrayden3045]

Well….. if they didn’t play because of the pandemic, that understandable / excusable. However, under no circumstances should any North American player forfeit their citizenship for Chinese citizenship

[@AMSUDZ]

Complete sellouts. They will come back pretending it never happened in the first place.

[@buzzsaw1000]

You'd have to be crazy to do such a thing, as there's no guarantee you'd get it back. Imagine being stuck as a Chinese citizen after being humiliated in the one thing you came there for.... say hello to labor camps.

[@yangsong5084]

@@buzzsaw1000 People on the olympic teams wont go to labor camps lol, the general public knew they were not good and werent gonna be competitive, but hey they are representing their country so they are still gonna cheer for them and be the pride of their country. If they scored a goal, that would be greater. Also, that team may just inspire more kids in china to play hockey, you gotta start somewhere.

[@chickenalaking1319]

With over a billion people at their disposal and they can't ice a competitive hockey team.....

[@mrconfusion87]

Hockey is a very niche sport in China (with only Beijing and the Dongbei regions having any real following)!

[@ryanschlaud]

I'm going to watch every single game they play. This is going to be amazing

[@ngarcia103]

They will play 4 games minimum. In this order: USA, Germany, Canada... and since everyone makes the knockout stage, assuming they get the bottom (#12) seed, they'll likely face one of Finland, Sweden, Russia or Czechia in the qualification playoff.

[@AI_HQ]

Go China Go!

[@GenX1964]

Take down the CCP! Take down the CCP! Take down the CCP!

[@no-sq7rr]

@@GenX1964 stfu, its not like us is going to win gold

[@no-sq7rr]

honestly yall Canadians and Americans saying shits should be ASHAMED of yourself. I believe that at this level, its very embarrassing playing against the other advanced team for team china. but its their first time joining the hockey olympic and hockey was never their thing. in a warm temperature country like china, ice is almost impossible to make easily. I don't feel respected when it's their first time doing something. if you really like hockey and a big fan of hockey, you should feel proud off that other countries are participating and spreading love to it. instead, most of you in the comment sections are saying shits and thinking hockey is just for canada and us. just because us and canada have NHL doesn't mean you should talk shit about others. shame on yall.

[@FaintAcrobat]

He seriously thinking they are on par with Norway and Denmark? Sit down FFS. Norway and Denmark have pretty bad teams compared to say Sweden and Finland, but they can still put up a decent fight and no longer lose with 5-7 goals. If this Chinese teams plays Finland or Sweden, two teams most certainly made up of NHL players, and top players at that, they would be lucky to keep it at single figures. Pathetic.

[@JaredtheRabbit]

Spencer and Parker are the people the Foo Fighters warned us about.

[@rona6063]

You aint Wong

[@wafflessquad1926]

@@rona6063 it’s getting old.

[@watchtank3698]

I couldn't disagree more. If the Chinese Ice Hockey Federation wants to compete in this tournament, knowing full well they could lose all of their games by at least 10 goals, let them. They could have declined to ice a team in the competition, or still could. China has never played in the ice hockey competition of the Olympics. They play in lower divisions of IIHF tournaments. I don't know if this would grow the game in China but I think their federation should have the choice to compete (or not). I don't think the IIHF should make this decision. If they didn't want this, they shouldn't allow host countries to automatically qualify.

[@caseysmith544]

Yes, the only way I see this not working is if China does not have enough players eligible to play via years played in KHL or of citizenship status tp be considered a team ands has to on technicality have to forfeit the right to play. I mean this could help the sport of Hokey in China grow, having kids play that then end up in the Chinese Olympic system.

[@zw9423]

I really believe it would give at least some more exposure to the Chinese audience about hockey. They shouldn't just give it up even knowing they will lose. Would Korea give up an opportunity to play against the dream team in basketball? I mean it's a great learning opportunity too.

[@petergeyer7584]

It was exactly the same story 4 years ago in Pyeongchang. The Korean national hockey teams (men‘s and women‘s) were nonentities. The pity of the home team getting an automatic pass is that teams on the bubble are left out in the cold in place of teams that have absolutely no business being in the tournament.

[@stupidas9466]

No, the fact is that the teams that just "missed out" had opportunities to make the tournament and lost out to the worst teams that did make it. The number of berths, plus one (the host country), is known well in advance for all sports. In water polo, field hockey, or soccer, there is a team that misses out that is usually better than the host country, but it is a non issue because it happens all the time. Why it is such a big issue here is beyond me.

[@CanCatholic]

The Korean men's team had qualified for the top level of the World Championships the year before the Pyeongchang Olympics. They deserved to be there.

[@JoshuaAkonom]

Except they didn't even send NHL players, and that was before Covid. It's ridiculous the best players in the world are going to China after snubbing Korea.

[@TheJinxCast]

Yes, they do belong there: they're hosting it, and there's a precedent. I'm Canadian and think that Canada automatically qualifying for the 2026 is crap considering we haven't had a proper league, but they should be allowed to get curbstomped in their respective competitions. Norway should've tried harder.

[@ngarcia103]

South Korea is a better team than China. The men's team played at the World Championship the same year they hosted the Olympics.

[@hockeyxchange3]

I still remember when Tyler Wong was a prospect for the Golden Knights and got their first non-official goal + a hat trick in their first ever preseason game, unfortunate he wasn’t able to make it to the NHL

[@kozmeetorez]

His ahl numbers are below avg. No way he makes the show.

[@keloonpa58.62]

I remember watching him when he was part of the Lethbridge hurricanes, he was a beast there

[@GnirpsNaireip]

As a Chinese, I’m quite excited for hockey to gain more popularity through Beijing Winter Olympic. I learned about hockey when studying in the US and would love to see more people in my home country enjoying such a game of passion. I don’t mind Team China sucks for now. You’ve got to start somewhere.

[@Matanumi]

As a fan of ice hockey in general, I'm also stoked for how this will grow the game in China (as well at SK in 2018 And Japan having its smaller leagues as well)

[@Jay-xg3pt]

Here's the crazy thing, 7 members of the Red Stars live within an hour drive of me in Vancouver, BC. Paris O'Brien the team back up goalie was even in my highschool grad class!

[@jayjayson9613]

I love Olympic hockey but I hate that the NHL is participating this year due to where they are being held. If they intend to still go then I want nothing more than Connor McDavid and Team Canada along with every other Olympic team to embarrass them on the ice.

[@MikaTuukkanen]

This is such a dilemma. I will want to see Olympic hockey after all these years, but I would also want to boycott the competition due to the acts of china. Damn it.

[@jayjayson9613]

@@MikaTuukkanen I'm more excited for World Juniors than I am for the Olympics. There's already talk heating up about the NHL not going now, deadline is in January to decide. I decided that I'm not going to watch the Olympics even if NHL players go. I watch hockey every day, I'll take the 2 weeks off ;)

[@TheJinxCast]

@@jayjayson9613 You're excited for the WJC only because NHL teams don't let their players participate in the World Championships proper and Canada's recent success. As late as 2010, the IIHF let arenas as small as 7000 capacity host games.

[@jayjayson9613]

@@TheJinxCast I don't understand exactly what your point is? Also I'm not Canadian and one of the best things about the World Juniors is that other countries are closing the gap to Canada. The US is a constant threat to Canada, won Gold last year too.

[@PD-hv4js]

@@MikaTuukkanen Exactly!! Standing up for something should be easy!

[@TheMaestro116]

They should let Kunlun's coach Alex Kovalev partake in their Olympic squad, he'll probably still outperform half the team in its current state.

[@cadenlacher7524]

I never thought I would hear a British person talk about hockey

[@guccilibrarian4728]

Bruh, Canada or the United States could play the entire game shorthanded 5-on-3 and still beat China

[@THIS---GUY]

Every Canadian must play with their off hand 😂 still win 9-0

[@no-sq7rr]

"highlighted comment," biased odd man here.

[@davideaston6944]

The question and concern may well end up being, how do the teams playing them STOP scoring, without it looking like a complete pity show? If any of USA, Canada, Sweden, Russia, Finland, et al, played FULL TILT against Big China's team for 60 minutes, indeed the scores will reach record-breaking numbers. So, how do they "respect" the hosts, while not embarrassing them by literally sitting down in the middle of the ice and not playing at all? It will be UGLY... no matter. 😵‍💫

[@hawker7488]

After China's treatment of the two Michaels, I'd love to see Team Canada run the score up into triple digits. Literal teabagging would be appreciated.

[@mitchrogers5432]

I’m calling it China is taking gold 🥇

[@teamrogers1047]

I might throw a couple of dollars on that one just for the hell of it.

[@WonderfulCan]

Many Olympic Table Tennis teams are made of retired Chinese players too. We don't have a problem with that.

[@davideaston6944]

PS: I wonder, with Big China down 43-0, and 3 minutes to play, if they're going to have a plan to pull their goalie for the extra attacker? 🤣

[@scottfilbey7882]

Hows that funny?

[@ToddMoore1]

@@scottfilbey7882 its not , i think hes sniffing glue again

[@scottfilbey7882]

@@ToddMoore1 haha and painter thinner

[@mrbojangles010]

Holy shit! The pool is USA, Canada, Germany and China!? Jesus what a stacked pool

[@day1avsfan907]

8:23 those stats are horrific😳😂

[@daydreamer226]

It's worse than that if you factor in the competition

[@TheFreeBass]

I don't get it... I have no problem with offering the host country a free spot in the Games, but I see no shame in that country saying "Thanks, but no thanks". Why would they welcome global embarrassment?

[@MrAtzu]

These IIHF rankings are kinda misleading because until this year the China team was actually Chinese. Now this ”Chinese” team is just full of mercenaries from Canada who have played in the KHL for a couple of years. This ”China” team could actually defeat the likes of Norway and Latvia so I doubt they will get ”absolutely humiliated” at the Olympics. I think the real problem with this China team is that this is allowed to happen by the IIHF. They should stricten their rules. No one should be able to play for a foreign national team after playing in that country for a few years. This practice of naturalizing mercenaries is very unfair towards other countries whose national teams are made of their own domestic talent.

[@ngarcia103]

That's because they're the rankings from 2019 - the year that determined the seedings for the 2022 Olympics and Olympic qualifying. Similarly, the 2023 rankings will determine everyone's place for 2026.

[@NovaSupernova]

Make no mistake bub, Canada, USA and ROC will put at least 20 in per game. Could see scores in the 30's against this team. It comparable to an ECHL team trying to play against team Canada, which will win this tournament handedly. Actually, most ECHL teams could beat this chinese squad. This will get ugly and ugly in a hurry.

[@GTsuji]

This Chinese team will get crushed. They’ll be playing all-star teams of NHL players every game. I’m glad there’s no mercy rule in the Olympics. I want to see blow-outs.

[@robinwaal-borrebaek6442]

If you actually believe this team could beat Norway and Latvia, then you have some serious lack of braincells

[@MrAtzu]

@@robinwaal-borrebaek6442 Norway and Latvia may have a few good individual players like Zuccarello or Indrasis but in terms of overall depth I think they aren't that much better than this so called China team. This China team made of mostly average North American AHL and KHL players is, at least on paper, better than the Norway team that is mostly made of players playing in the Norwegian league, which in quality is far worse than the AHL. I don't see a reason why they couldn't beat a team like Norway.

[@jackwinton7542]

Today is February 4th, but the first Olympic events, Actually came on the 2nd!!! Opening Ceremony was NOT the first day of competition. the Torch is lit in Beijing.

[@vancelance3660]

I want them to go to the olympics, just to see when Canada and the USA beat them 48-0 in the first 20 minutes

[@birderjohn3396]

I bet their players really want to play the US, Canada, and Germany, no matter their chances.

[@amberanubis8336]

I dont think quality is such a problem here. My Slovenia was participating on last 2 olympics for example and we did well even tho on paper we arent much better than team showed here. Problem is that almost none of their players are actually Chinese and that kind of defeats the point of Olympic games.

[@mikahamari6420]

Yes, there is a huge difference. I as a Finn have always wished the best for team Slovenia in the Championships. I would wish the same also for team China, but they should first earn that respect with their hockey culture.

[@russe19642]

You made the semis today

[@matthewmiksza5855]

Its hilarious that they are in the same division as Canada and USA.

[@mrconfusion87]

An easy three points for all of China's opponents! 🤣

[@carbarf]

TLDR: Removing the Chinese team is against the spirit of the Olympics. I don't understand why this is even a conversation for the iihf. From the Chinese perspective, ok I get it for all the reasons stated, but from the olympic games perspective, the hosting team always gets a free pass to enter. It doesn't matter how bad they are, they should still get to compete. It would do a lot to help build hockey as a sport in China. It's nothing new that hosting teams get roasted in international sports competitions; the point is to host a fair competition and not to remove a team just because they have no chance of being competitive.

[@truenorthstrongandfree3699]

So as an athlete and coach for some 42 years now, I’m proud that I never watched one minute of live action from the genocide Winter Olympic Games in Beijing. I did not want to see which sponsors were there selling their wares under such conditions. I’ve been able to keep up with what’s going on in sport by watching the CBC nightly news and by watching the CBC website on KZbin. The newspaper heading I would love to see would be “CLOSING CEREMONIES IN BEIJING CANCELLED DUE TO LACK OF VIEWERSHIP”…..to the CCP I say: “The whole worlds NOT watching!”

[@mattoteline4480]

As a Finn, I hope other countries would start having more success in hockey too. It's always the big six who win these tournaments. So hockey culture doesn't expand. I would love to see china being good at hockey.

[@MigthyDucksz24]

Same here.

[@MikaTuukkanen]

I do agree with the point that it would be better of hockey culture would spread and more talent would grow in different countries. I still wish china can't buy their way in the tournament when they are horrible and does not really even consist of chinese players and if they do, I do hope they will lose all games and with an awful margin. I wish no good for the country of china as the actions of the government are bad for the people both locally and globally.

[@mattoteline4480]

@@MikaTuukkanen Agreed. But if they get totally annihilated. Hockey will become a taboo in there. So I would give them one win so that country would start putting more effort in hockey. Politics aside. Hockey hasn't anything to do with chinese goverment.

[@hazuusan]

I mean, countries like Germany and Switzerland have improved their game a lot recently. Denmark is right up there too. It's not a given anymore that these teams are going to get tossed around by the "big six". On a good day they can challenge anyone. China is way behind though.

[@mattoteline4480]

@@hazuusan We are part of the big six and we get underestimated in every big game. Other big countries always say we will lose even though we are second in world ranking after Canada. But we also like to be underdogs, it suits us. These are the golden years of finnish hockey. But yeah, I know germany, denmark, switzerland and belarus etc. can win games and it's a great thing. But I meant, much smaller hockey countries like Poland, Netherlands, Britain or Japan. Can't wait the olympics, I think we have never had such a great offence and I can't wait to see that in action.

[@briankerr4674]

They weren’t granted special status to compete. It’s actually an Olympic mandate that host cities will be allowed to compete in all team sports if they so choose.

[@ngarcia103]

In 2019, the IIHF was deliberating not letting China automatically qualify because of their poor international showing. It isn't a rule set in stone.

[@Yomasi]

It's a bold take for the coach to say that they are equal to Norway and Denmark when those countries have MATS ZUCCARELLO AND NIK EHLERS, for example Oh and Denmark also has Lars Eller as a bonus lmao Edit: Yea its Mats Zuccarello, not Matt, my bad lol

[@teamrogers1047]

Yeah, that was a huuuuuuge stretch by the coach.

[@robinwaal-borrebaek6442]

It's Mats, but I am still glad you mentioned Norway!

[@lkrnpk]

One or two very good NHLers cannot significantly increase team's strength. I think some are overestimating the impact they have, Denmark have had it tough vs Latvia for example or even France despite them having as good or zero NHLers in some occasions. Sadly some NHL fans think there is no hockey outside of NHL. Any full and motivated KHL team could win Denmark, Latvia, even Germany on a regular, not even a good day, as they have also trained more together. If whole Kunlun KHL team plays for China and they are motivated, they will be fine enough at the level of Denmark/Norway.

[@Yomasi]

@@lkrnpk But the Kunlun team is litterally composed of has been and poor level players some of them can barely skate like it doesnt really matter how much motivation you have if the skill is not there plus they play against one of, if not the most topheavy division in canada, Usa and germany

[@winrar42]

@@lkrnpk you haven’t seen a good boy from the big show playing below his level before. France and Denmark are trash tier on the international scale, not even on the radar. This team is even worse

[@two_tone_xlophone2630]

this whole thing of not having imported players playing on olympic teams is BS, should be going by nation of birth and not gaming the system where you can just have a guy move somewhere and hang out for a few years then gets to play on the national olympic team...i say this not just for hockey but for any sport in the olympics, it's such a cheap cop out.

[@ronaldwayne7092]

There is one issue with removing the Chinese team from the Olympics that no one has brought up: it's unfair to do it *now*. If it had been done before the qualifiers, the IIHF could at least have granted them the chance to qualify. They wouldn't have succeeded, but they would at least have had the opportunity. There's also the issue of possible Canada-USA collusion: prearranging that their group game go to overtime to ensure that both teams get byes to the quarter-finals (assuming they both beat Germany in regulation and obliterate China as expected). The best solution I can think of: bring Norway to Beijing a few days before the opening ceremony. Have them play a best-of-3 qualifying match against China. Winner gets the spot in Group A. You can even call them official Olympic games (you can start events before the opening ceremony as long as medals are not awarded).

[@wildwilie]

The canada and usa hockey team have no reason to try and prearrange overtime or anything. They should both comfortably go to quarters. The insane amount of superstars these two teams have is insane.

[@thechrisde]

Canada/USA is game 3 of 6 in the round robin. They won’t know the result of Germany/USA

[@wildwilie]

@@thechrisde Yep, we cant underestimated the germany team. Draisaitl and grub have the possibility of stealing a game.

[@kylehankins5988]

@@wildwilie your not wrong but superstar studied teams have been embarrassed before because they were not on their game.

[@pepebeezon772]

Hah, let them play and get demolished. Embarrassing chicoms on the world stage is always good

[@adriftjia]

Unlike other European countries and Canada, All Chinese winter games athletes are only from three Northeast provinces, and those three provinces economy are among the lowest GDP ones in China. If not holding the Olympic Games, Chinese hockey team would be never play against Canada.

[@gbalph4]

This team is the equivalent of starting your thesis a week before it’s due. But hey Team USA getting free wins would be nice. Oh boy, this aged better than fine wine.

[@noochy9091]

Reminded me to get on that essay 😅

[@yamjam7434]

Worst Olympic ever this is a mess the judges finally judged some games right, AFTER GETTING THREATENED TO BE SUED how the hell did this happen in a OLYMIC god 😩

[@maluorno]

pre-olympic 3 game series.....china v norway

[@rogerhorky7258]

the UK won Olympic gold in hockey in1936 while made up mostly of Canadian players with dual citizenship.

[@WilliamStormXBlade88]

The issue is that China does not allow dual citzenship. So even if they made an "exception" to the rule for the Ice Hockey team (and granted them dual), the olympic commitee still may not allow them as it isnt following China's "standard protocol". This would also setup a bad precedence, as other countries could also start issuing "temp citzenships" to bring in better players.

[@EX0DVS]

My jaw hit the floor when I seen that guys GAA tied with his WLT numbers...like...what the hell

[@mikahamari6420]

Before Nagano Olympic Games 1998, Japan collected a national team of international players, who have family ties in Japan. I remember seeing in Swedish television one player of that team, Shin Yahata Larsson. Japan's project is different than Chinese, because they were already relatively on higher level. But there is that similarity that always every host country in every sports tries to maximize their effort to be in top form in home games. I believe that in most cases it is just a short-sighted project. For example Japanese hockey, IIHF gave earlier to Asia one place in World Championships top division. Those days it was always Japan, team which according to skills should have been played in lower division, but it retained its place for many years. Getting tougher games didn't improve them, because it was artificial solution by IIHF. Although I love in FIFA football World Championships that there are teams from every continent, at least now in hockey it just doesn't work. You can give a fish or teach them how to fish. Giving fish has not been a succesful solution in improving playing skills, but maybe it works in marketing hockey to Asian markets. I would be very happy to see teams like Japan and China in top division. Nothings stops them, but first they should have genuine hockey culture. It would be a great thing for *international* hockey.

[@JasmineJu]

Some of these players are third and fourth generation Chinese. It's like getting Nick Suzuki to play for Team Japan.

[@waynejones5635]

It would be an international embarrassment if the "Chinese team" were destroyed by a gigantic margins through multiple games. I certainly think Team Canada could run up the score into the double digits in the first period and far beyond that, unless they took mercy on them and just played a game of keep away for 2 solid periods. That would likely be the end result. The IIHF needs to do what best for the game.

[@jonwolf83]

Don't forget, no NHL players. China has players in the KHL, whereas the US and Canada will be using amateur players. I don't like this one bit. Pros against amateurs, you never know how this will turn out

[@tommyjensen7955]

Norway have to play. This is a joke.

[@darkazon5343]

If a asian based team is a necessity, then a Unified Asian Team is probably the most suitable choice. This team would consist of players who are Asian decent

[@jake2001c]

Atleast they’d have half as many shots as goals against if you did an Asian team

[@Kmoten10]

I don't think that would fly at the Olympics lol

[@walexander8378]

Yeah no

[@psychwardsandSCENE]

no chinese would ever play on a team with other countries. do you not realize how bigotted they are to other members of their own race? it also just makes no sense to do so.

[@ce6311]

Bruh that’s literally like half the world. Asia is Turkey to Indonesia including Russia lol.

[@milan99cz]

Can't wait for McDavid to set the world record on points scored during a single game at the OGs

[@richardspikman7116]

PLEASE LET THEM PLAY!

[@aidanw9378]

This team is more like Canada's Spengler Cup team in a really bad year

[@893263007]

Couldn't care less if the Chinese team is bad. It's a lot more interesting than having an awful Norwegian team.

[@hyperrabbit1710]

McDavid might score a goal.......every shift 🤣

[@orangesharpy]

A lot of these guys sure aren't household names but they can play hockey on a professional level so all of them know what they are getting into and will be fine. Thing that is funny is that only 3 players mentioned were actually born in China including the 3rd string goalie. Just seems like a bit of a stretch to be called the Chinese national team.

[@Connor8609]

Canada playing this team can be the greatest beat down in the history of the sport.

[@nonamesinenomine]

I support china in their efforts to even play hockey I loved playing with the China and Japan teams on NHL video games back in the day

[@anonymous134y]

hahaha most of those players aren't even chinese. Players on that team are bigger sellouts than john cena and nike.

[@jeremyrhansen6637]

Let's be Happy for Germany! Get to feel like a top dog for a night

[@christianblankenship7683]

You left out that Zach Yuen played in the WHL and was drafted in the 2011 NHL draft by the Winnipeg Jets.

[@foskco87]

To be fair there are a lot of countries that would get completely embarrassed in hockey if they had a team in the tournament. It's a pretty consistent select few countries that dominate. Basically just Canada, US, Russia, Sweden with maybe the rare exception of Finland or Czech Republic. Most countries wouldn't even make it past Slovakia, Denmark, Germany, or Switzerland and those teams cant even win a medal.

[@winrar42]

Germany upset Canada for a bronze before. Russia got gold, US took silver. Crushing year for Canada

[@you_better_call_truth]

Anybody remembering the South Park episode Stanley's Cup (s10e14)? When the South Park kids were smashed by the Detroit Red Wings wirh no mercy... Well, i guess even those poor kids have a good chance to win against China ( probably with a shootout)🤣🤣🤣

[@JonMartinYXD]

"No hope, no hope..."

[@aberamagold7509]

I know its difficult to say but man did he ever butcher the Metallurg Magnitogorsk teams name.

[@ShawnBlaque]

Goalies out there in the Asia League posting a sick 10.4 GAA lol I had to rewind and make sure I wasn't blind

[@winrar42]

*rubs eyes* I uh… is the decimal in the right place? Lol fr tho, I used to start having a crisis when my GAA was over 3

[@tommysobo123]

Score projections for their first and only 3 games in the Olympics?!?

[@antoineb-c9472]

I think an OHL team like the London Knights or Ottawa 67's would also beat this team

[@amberanubis8336]

Not a chance. Its literally KHL team. Even though they are among worst teams in KHL they are still good enough to humiliate any OHL team.

[@dannyw.b6447]

A midget AA team would probably destroy this team

[@mrconfusion87]

The Arizona Coyotes will still run riot over these guys! 🤣

[@zacharypink7567]

Why can they play for a country with which they have no affiliation. Playing in a country doesn't mean you play for that country.

[@brettpatterson404]

First there was a loocccckkkk ouuuuut

[@zigfield723]

The Olympics shouldn't even be happening in China. It's really sick and disgusting if it goes down

[@primoznovak8093]

It will be a blood bath. Teams will probably have to hold back to not uspet and embarras the hosts. South Korea at least palyed in the elite and were trying to build their team as strong as they could

[@maroastaansunkissastallaka1150]

I was scared for a moment that south korea would win against Finland in Olympics. They were playing great and the crowd was so hyped to see their team to have a great fight against finland

[@Murph_gaming]

4 years from now won't be much better if Italy isn't granted an automatic spot for being the host country.

[@chodeoriki4113]

Well I feel for their team. Those Chinese nationals gonna love that early disappearance, sorry “retirement”.

[@andrerobertdrouin3642]

Those players are not even on parr with any Canadian junior team

[@thealmightyjack]

It is tradition to allow the hosting country to have their teams inserted in the Olympic games even when they normally would not make it past trials. Getting to play at the Olympics isn't about winning or even putting on a good show, it's about showing pride for your country. Even though China will most likely be embarrassed in the few games they will play, just being able to play is good enough. We let Korea field their teams in 2018 and they were summarily embarrassed as well but they didn't care, it was special for them. There are hundreds of Olympians each Olympics that make it through trials and have zero chance of even getting close to being competitive and their "embarrassing" performance isn't embarrassing to them because all they wanted to do was be there and say they made it. That's something you got to understand over the idea that the Olympics are all about winning and looking good just because America, Canada, and Russia dominate it most years. Unfortunately for China, the NHL is allowing their players to play this time around, but I still do not think they should be barred if the country wants their team in it. All I got to say to anyone who is demanding them to be removed is if you actually love the sport, you would understand that allowing host teams like China and Korea to play in the Olympics may inspire a whole generation in their countries to pick up the sport and become good at it.

[@JesusFriedChrist]

Canada vs. Latvia (in the past) 🇨🇦 16 - 🇱🇻 0 Canada vs. China (future prediction) 🇨🇦 20 - 🇨🇳 0

[@lrba5524]

ah yes the hockey juggernauts: Canada, USA, and Germany. Tim Stutzle liked that

[@Natendowii]

Hey, Germany's been getting a lot better at hockey on an international level. Not on the same level as Sweden or Finland, but they've come a long way since the 90s! And, the DEL is the 2nd-highest drawing league in Europe, so there's that too.

[@brendan9868]

Germans are quietly becoming a lot better at hockey not gonna lie. I mean a 5 on 3 game where the Germans just have Seider, Stutzle and Draisaitl with Grubauer in net could probably mop this team. Also shoutout to my boy Konrad Abeltshauser, dude is an absolute tank

[@ariarion137]

@@Natendowii germany is much better than sweden

[@Bbistheman_]

Draisaitl alone will score 15 goals on China

[@brendan9868]

@@ariarion137 lol no they’re not. Germany is good, but Sweden has one of the best national teams in the world and there are tons of current Swedes who are absolute studs in the NHL. Nick Bäckström, Willy Nylander, Hedman, Erik Karlsson, Filip Forsberg, Elias Pettersson, Landeskog, Dahlin, etc.

[@desdel_78]

when an african guy which never see snow, can be on olympic on cross-country skiing.... why can't be china on olympic hockey tournament?

[@pennsylvanianrrfoamer]

China should still play, instead of another year of Olympic hockey drama. The previous 2018 Pyongcheong Olympics, the South Korean women's team formed a unified Korean team, bringing in North Korean players. China can still ice a team, although there is a very good chance that will lose games by double digits, just like in Olympic qualifiers.

[@kjyost]

The unified Korean team was hardly a success though. The best teams were in one division (last place pool A had a -14 goal differential & hammered the #1 team from pool B in the first playoff round. Korea was 0-3 with 1 goal for and 19 against in the weak pool.

[@NBA_Dunk]

"When you pass through the waters, I will be with you; and when you pass through the rivers, they will not sweep over you. When you walk through the fire, you will not be burned; the flames will not set you ablaze."

[@lordrayden3045]

So, while it may be ugly, it sounds like the first two lines are at least players that know what they are getting them selves into. As for the third and fourth line? Well….. hope that they have some extra players around. I have a feeling that if the other teams don’t let up physically, someone could seriously get hurt.

[@kingdavid7571]

I think most hockey players will let up when they're leading by ten or so.

[@finnguy9096]

And let's remember that the Olympic system means that every team makes it to at least one playoff game. That's 4 games of agony for China.