The Co-Optional Podcast Ep. 221 ft. ForceGaming

[@DiMacky24]

I am very happy the podcast is still going strong. Genna has been getting better at hosting, she seems so relaxed and poised this episode, on a similar level to Dodger (and she's been podcasting for years!). Also camera angle is much better this time too... Ok, enough compliments before it gets too weird, but the show is feeling regular again and that pleases me.

[@Gin-kz5ss]

You casual commenter casting cordial comparative complements.

[@DiMacky24]

^amiable alliteration.

[@dan240393]

She seems to be going for the other side of hosting from TB; he was a driver, she's a facilitator. And she is doing a good job of it; every-time she spoke, someone ended up in an anecdote or their anecdote was propelled along. It also feels a bit more chill than it did. Kudos to Genna.

[@MrTohawk]

The lighting seems to be off TBh.

[@DiMacky24]

She is the TotalCookie to the TotalBiscuit.

[@xXAkirhaXx]

Thank you for keeping this going Genna, the spirit of TB lives on with you.

[@nikkfrostt]

When Genna actually mentioned the lack of an FOV Slider. Wish I could give more than a Thumbs Up.

[@mrredisa.d.d.8566]

Nick Di Mario LMAO. Epic comment. I have to find this part of the video now. Timestamp? ...EDIT: just found it @1:18:05

[@toddbailey8474]

Topic Timestamp Welcome 00:00:51 Old usernames, chat rooms and internet 00:04:12 MMO character names 00:13:33 Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson 00:14:44 TwitchCon 00:19:05 CoxCon 00:25:22 SDCC 00:27:09 Anime Expo and cosplay 00:29:01 Tenno Live 00:31:22 Star Citizen and No Man's Sky 00:34:09 Amazon Prime Day 00:40:52 WoW: Classic 00:42:49 Fortnite marketing and success 00:51:01 Squarespace ad 00:56:08 Welcome back 00:56:55 Battle royale games 00:14:44 Wizard of Legend 01:13:00 Vampyr 01:17:15 Until Dawn 01:20:17 Just Shapes & Beats 01:21:41 WoW: Battle for Azeroth 01:27:09 Defiance 2050 01:32:21 Octopath Traveler 01:35:20 Fire Emblem Warriors 01:36:40 Earthfall 01:37:39 Garage: Bad Trip 01:39:09 The Banner Saga 3 01:40:45 The Crew 2 01:41:46

[@johnoneil9188]

Can´t wait for next week. Three women and Crendor in a wig sounds like a sitcom.

[@TreesPlease42]

DUDE yes

[@gastly777]

Crendor in a wig? You mean Dodger?

[@Curtis-gx2fd]

Leave it to crendor in a wig I’d watch that.

[@ChristmasCrustacean1]

so four women?

[@MTGPlayer10]

I think you mean Three women and A Crendor..we're still not entirely sure what Crendor is...my money is on sentient bacon....

[@VaanG0v]

The intro commercial hits and for a moment I forgot... Damn it.

[@LamberBeb]

Me too Dude

[@Minnan1]

I think it's nice that the intro commerical is there.

[@TreesPlease42]

Me too, man.

[@riorisandiansyah8184]

me too..

[@Skig543]

It hurts me every single week.

[@deadso]

We need Genna in this intro ;)

[@xionlord00]

Decending from the sky in a winged mech

[@BananenbaumEY]

dont ya dare to touch the intro! :O

[@imDarkensei]

I agree, I loved TB, and it really hurts to hear him voice the intro now that he is gone...

[@s777nserg]

And angry TB in the sky. "This stuff should be done this way and this thing should be in this place. Ugggh"

[@Barsee23]

I’d rather it stay there in totalbiscuit’s memory

[@WrecklessEating]

Yay watching now! Long live TB!

[@doghat1619]

I think that's the wrong choice of words

[@dizzyroach]

That's not the best thing to say at this time.

[@arodin]

Well, it's the thought that counts.

[@hunterdavis9941]

Long live TB (in our hearts)!

[@HFHavenger]

Wikipedia dot org /wiki/The_king_is_dead,_long_live_the_king!

[@CM-db5cg]

I can't believe they got someone like Keemstar on the show

[@Trigfire]

I am so happy the podcast is still going and really appreciate Genna, Dodger and Jesse still making it happen

[@vende6137]

You are getting better Genna! Love to see the podcast. You are doing a fantastic job as a Host! :- )

Nice to see Genna smiling. She must be a very balanced lady.

[@GennaBain]

Bobbly Wobbly honestly, I really struggle to keep smiling during these things. I have anxiety issues and am painfully aware of how the internet can be when you turn your camera on, but I’m going to keep trying my best despite everything. Comments like yours make it easier. 😊

[@mikkokuusela5788]

Just try to remember that there are multitude of us who love you for every hater

[@Jake-gx4ow]

You're doing a great job-- Hang in there :)

[@varin0183]

Hi Genna. I lost my partner 9 years ago & Also have mental health issues so I can empathise somewhat. I was once told bereavement is like having a sharp stone in your stomach, that keeps hurting. With time the stone gets smoother & hurts less but it never goes away, because you memories of the person never goes away. I'm sure you have already been told a thousand times "it gets easier" so That's not what I'm trying to say. Sorry if I come across as patronising, not my intent. Best Wishes

[@TheLineCutter]

Genna Bain Honestly, you are doing a more than fine job. You actually have really nice chemistry with Jesse and Brooke. And the guests have been interesting so far. You pick great things to talk about. So much to praise. In a lot of ways I see a resemblance between this new chemistry and the one with TB.

[@Dwarfskindabetter]

Hearing TBs voice is like dam...

[@SuperHns]

TB lives forever! Forever 34!

[@matthewcharles9813]

Sir Coco yeah it's kind of surreal. I never get used to when someone is gone no matter how many times I've experienced it.

[@theninjaassassin4468]

I loved hearing it. What a badass voice . It must never be forgotten! He'll always be with us in spirit

[@xxacidmv]

Thank you, Genna! Also, David the Gnome was a great show.

[@SuzakuX]

xxacidmv I had vague memories of watching that before kindergarten every morning and then some anime called Little Bits or something, back before anyone knew what anime was. I thought they were false memories until I recently looked them up. There was an anime about a bee girl, too.

[@OB1KXB]

David the Gnome was the best. I mentioned him at work once and people didnt even know there were 2 versions of him

[@bagrym]

that anime might have been ... i actually dont know the international title.... we call it "biene maja" in germany.

[@jesperjohansson6959]

I love the new structure of the podcast. The news is the most engaging segment, so it's good to have that first I think since it'll make more viewers stick around for the whole podcast.

[@rand0m508]

I'm so happy the comments are open! I just want to say that I love the return of host topics, what I enjoy most about the podcast is the constructive discussion. I also didn't mind that force hadn't played any new games, because he still had something interesting to say about the old ones. I would love for the main hosts to bring in topics every now and again too

[@matthewcharles9813]

This was a fun episode. Genna you look like you're doing better and enjoying yourself. It's inspiring seeing the way you keep going and thriving. Your would feel proud of yourself and loving the show and your style. Be happy and have fun! :)

[@alimaty]

This week's podcast was amazing, thank you lady Genna. Now I need more!

[@andrewplantgollum8689]

Thanks for not letting TB channel die with him, keeping him memory alive.

[@TreesPlease42]

Thanks all for recording this podcast. I look forward to them.

[@darktempalor]

Genna keeps getting better at hosting the podcast. She kept the conversation going and was funny and fun to watch this show. Keep it up!

[@abmong]

darktempalor she needs to learn to take the piss out of dodger and jesse more, then it’d be perfect.

[@TheLineCutter]

abmong Nah then it'd be her trying to be Totalbiscuit. It's not in her character. She should stay who she is. I really like her this way.

[@SoupPot]

Great podcast, super happy with the way things are going! I'll be here every week same as I always have. It really is as great as it has ever been!

[@Checkmate1138]

Genna, you look so lovely!

[@Olibelus]

Checkmate1138 She looked so hot this episode omg.

[@GennaBain]

Aww thank you sweetie. Today was the first time I actually put on a bit of makeup, so that’s the reason. Foundation covers a multitude of sins lol.

[@Checkmate1138]

Genna Bain Haha true. Hope you have a wonderful rest of your day!

[@SuperHns]

Viva TotalBiscuit!

[@IRMentat]

1:00:00 Force, battle royals is a game mode, engines are freely available, net code is ready and available. It’s the fastest growing specifically because it’s so damned easy to throw one together, one map, a few weapons, a gimmick for the players, job done. After that it’s down to support. I remember playing hunger games mods for guild wars2 and Starcraft, and that’s a much more complex game mode to create.

[@ycdtosa]

Genuinely really enjoying the Gen hosted podcasts. I was really concerned at first and wanted to wait till she had more experience producing it, but she's doing fine so far and I love the "I'm gonna do me" attitude she's taken with the show. Looking forward to more.

[@kirkadurka7152]

I miss you TB

[@Darkholow]

Reminiscing about WoW vanilla always brings a smile to my face because I also look back to it and remember the fond memories. (Been playing since January 2005 when it released in Europe). Got to General on my first account and High warlord on my second account..took me 18 hours a day for 3 months..it was a GRIND, but worth it imo.

[@snowstalker36]

Jessie's view of Star Citizen is spot in. A couple friends and I Kickstarted as well, and we're just past having any reaction. We got our cool t-shirts, and we accept that. Maybe we'll get a game we can play sometime.

[@pinkwarrior2117]

Thank You Genna for keeping this going. Stay strong i know it must be hard especially with some of the internet been the horrible Idiots they are.

[@paragonexperience]

Look at Genna talking about FOV and frames, TB is so proud of you. Love and support!

[@LordDecklion]

I miss the raid of days of old. This was the first Co-op i could start with out the intro bringing tears and not turning off. Keep it up sorry if we have dropped off to deal with our own emotions.

[@fredrick1176]

As long as this show runs, I’ll always watch it. Also I started watching this podcast because of WoW. I turn these on and listen while I play, they are perfect for that.

[@Spills51]

Gotta give her credit man. Last week I said this Co-op wasn't gonna last long now. I felt like I didn't like how Genna was running it and the vibe just felt wrong imo. But this one was really good. She kept things running at a good pace and in general did a great job. I shall eat my words. Hopefully things do well in the future :)

[@Kimmyfuzzygogglepage]

Spills51 that and she’s on TB’s set up she has to “learn” his set up , and TB wanted genna to take over for him, the co-optional podcast is never going away

[@Garbaz]

This was great! I really like the news segment at the beginning and the idea with the host topic!

[@lange2zero]

Great show this week (I know I watched it late). I really like the tighter format without the release list. Keep up the good work Genna :o)

[@thethatshortguy]

Long time watcher, first time commentor: just wanted to say you're getting better every episode Genna! keep it up!

[@mega17]

Listening to all the WoW nostalgia just makes me think about how I introduced a WoW-playing friend to GW2 and how they praised just how in-depth the World-vs-World siege pvp mode is compared to WoW where you apparently just run at each other.

[@barret232hxc]

I'm out of the loop but we can comment now. Nice to see all the fans. Hopefully it doesn't get too toxic. I love these people

[@TheSportsCourier]

Love this show! So thankful you guys are keeping it going. I feel your pain on Vampyr, Genna lol.

[@MartialArtzz]

Looking Stunning and doing a great job Genna. As an overly emotional and 10+ year fan of you both(Since the start of blueplz), i am so glad to see it. He would be proud of you.

[@stuartbh8165]

Shoutout to Jesse for the "Now we gnome" pun. felt it was under appreciated

[@Lordbaka17]

It’s very surreal to hear TB in the intro... way to keep the show going on you guys and love live TB! :3

[@waaden1]

so glad this podcast is still going, i really enjoy genna. on another note imagine a new battle royal bg in WoW

[@Quiet-shh]

Glad to see this still going. :3

[@akivoutilainen4175]

Reading youtube comments on this channel feels great!

[@SamwiseGG]

Jesse is trying to get the actor that played the lead in the game 'Contradiction'What a legend.

[@tanoshineko]

I was twelve for my first internet experience in 1994. My friend and I went to a naughty chatroom, probably filled with a bunch of other goofballs impersonating adults.

[@TheFightersWay]

Genna has a great voice

[@Halodude8224]

Love you guys, great episode!

[@noxistudios]

This may just be my subjective opinion... For a long while things have very occasionally felt a bit echo chamber-ee when talking about certain topics. Which seems natural considering friendships and proximity, but may results in potentially less factual and more high strung opinion. With the push towards guest discussions it might be nice to tweak the format and bring on people who either have expertise in or an alternative POV for a given area of discussion for balance - when possible. Many thanks for the high quality show.

[@sntnl666]

I like that Jesse's mic stand looks to be poking into Force's window.

[@KoaliMinecraft]

I had the “frame drops from looking around” problem myself in several games. I was able to fix it by reducing the polling rate on my mouse. (Logitech G502s on a MacBook Pro 2015)

[@byron4545]

Thanks for making this video. It means a lot to me.

[@myfavoritethingschannel7610]

3:22 I love "David the Gnome" I have the DVDs it one of the best cartoons I ever watched

[@vordaq]

My first mmo was Everquest Online Adventure, the defunct PS2 cousin of Everquest. My character was a monk named Phleg. He was based off my D&D character, a half-Orc monk who loved his drink. It was decided he just had to prestige to drunken master, and when he "retired" to npc status, he became the glorified tavern brawl sensei. Good times.

[@CHEDDAakaSWAY]

I haven't watched since the memorial episode and that beginning ad read almost made me cry 😔

[@YouPlague]

Genna getting better with each podcast!

[@Fourleafclov]

please never get rid of that commercial intro, the feels

[@kevboard]

They are back in their right positions on screen again! my ADD thanks you greatly!

[@Bruno3605]

Kevboard Arts Jesse always bottom!

[@GennaBain]

You’re welcome. I took that feedback on board from previous episodes and made the change.

[@merlith4650]

ADD? How is that diagnosis about the order of things?

[@LRCS12]

Listening to Genna complain about FoV and FPS issues made my day.

[@davidstreet1183]

Coooooo-optional

[@deathkid510]

I really like Genna as a host. I wouldn't watch these every week but I might now

[@MrJpferreyra]

Awesome podcast as always !! keep it up guys :D

[@donatodiniccolodibettobardi842]

49:20 Damn, I remember 20 seconds to restore mana... I was in highschool. It was the first and the last time I played WoW.

[@DragynGirl]

Finally, a group of people that I am in complete agreement with on WoW Classic! Too many people I talk to have those rose tinted glasses and I feel they are going to be sorely disappointed because "it's not the way I remember". You can only experience something for the first time ONCE, and you can never go back and repeat it with the exact same emotions or experiences, no matter how much you want to. I truly believe that this was what was meant by the "you think you do, but you don't" comment, and that many, many people will realize this when Classic is released.

[@brentc2411]

What made all those MMOs great that can't be obtained anymore is that back then, there weren't many source sites for questing and mapping out every thing you can do in the game, so there was always a feeling of mystery amongst the community, and knowledge was valueble

[@mathboydrum]

as a person who has played many vanilla private servers, it really is what people want.

[@waking00one]

Sensual Lettuce only cause they're full of kids who don't want to pay for wow.

[@mathboydrum]

lol i disagree, the game design is just better

[@Lagiacrus1996]

waking00one i play vanilla private servers AND retail ones...

[@Valkyrie777777]

The Crew 2 has indeed some weird detection of air tricks, however I do get loops pretty much 100% of the time now. Thing is that they show you this graph in the corner of what the trick is supposed to look like - and they are not kidding. To make a loop you need to fly straight horizontally, then make a loop, then end up again flying straight horizontally. It only then seems to register. Just flying circles with random entry and exit points does not seem to work. Chances are that near misses require you to actually be on a collision course before you bank away (that's what the graph shows), but I didn't get those right yet. I usually just go dive into the trees and hope for the best.

[@turgsh01]

Wow, this was a really awesome podcast. One of the best episodes. Everything seemed to flow so smoothly, Dodger's robot sponsor ad was hilarious... overall, just awesome! Even though you guys talked so much about WoW and Battle Royale stuff which I have no interest in, it was still interesting and fun to watch.

[@TheKeleja]

I'll save repeating all the compliments... just gonna say great episode. Thanks y'all!

[@gerolindenberg8017]

In Vanilla WoW: - there were no flight paths. You had to reengage with the flightmaster at each location, picking the next flight point - Paladins weren't viable as tanks - you had to buy resources for buffs - those buffs applied only to your group, so people had to be shuffled around - you had to reapply the buffs every few minutes - Alliance didn't have Bloodlust - you had to buy your abilities at the trainers. These abilities had different levels and sometimes it was more efficient to use a lower level - there were little to no mods and almost no online resources to help you learn to play - losing threat was a constant struggle for tanks (3 sunders before DPS) - 40 man raids had very little loot - you had to actively search for groups, sometimes taking hours, especially for DPS - certain raids weren't even survivable if you didn't have the correct resistances for the encounters - there were attunement quest chains for raids - especially with the first character on the realm, gold was a real problem - NPCs could only have a limited number of DoT's on them, so that had to be carefully managed I'm very interested how people will react with all those comforts removed. It's like trying to play an old RTS and having to select every unit by itself, then clicking an action ant then clicking a target. Some old game mechanics aren't used anymore for a reason. WoW had some misssteps, but all in all it has been improved with every patch and every expansion. Dialing that back by 12 years will affect the experience a lot.

[@Barsee23]

I thought I might not’ve like it, but I played nostalrius and realized it was what I wanted

[@marty500]

O God, the memories. The self-inflicted horror. I bet I'll be put off by in 5 minutes, if I were to return now.

[@mathboydrum]

VANILLA WOW HYPE THATS WHAT MADE THE GAME GOOD BOIZZZZ

[@waking00one]

Vanilla was awful, people only like it because nostalgia and because the private servers are free.

[@ElvenMans]

Lightshope WoW Server. That's how people react, those who want it, will play it.

[@SuperHns]

In Netherlands we got cable internet in 2001. I had internet from 1997/98, Dial up, I remember having "unlimited" internet in 2001 was like WOOOOWWWW a world opened up to me

[@Amin_3k]

Old timer hierzo hoor, haha

[@marty500]

Diurno MX it was the same for me. Glorious broadband internet back in 2000/2001: playing Medal of Honour and Red Alert online were my first experiences in online multiplayer. :) I gotta admit that my friends from other countries (US, France, Germany) did not have the internet speeds close to that until 2 or 3 years later. It was a dark time as well, I guess.

[@SuperHns]

For me was UT99 and COd1 and cod 2 and later WoW

[@marty500]

Aulis Vaara Jazeker, lekker met de sleurhut weg! :)

[@FiXato]

Ik weet nog dat ik mijn ICQ account had geregistreerd bij de Mxstream ADSL stand van KPN op iets als de Megafestatie of HCC!Dagen; mijn eerste ervaring met breedband ;p Ik weet dat nummer nog steeds uit m'n hoofd, maar het telefoonnummer van mijn vrouw moet ik nog steeds elke keer opzoeken in mijn telefoon. 😂

[@lordgarth1]

I can’t wait to watch another one Genna!

[@tzuyd]

Getting the 'kill them all' trophy for Until Dawn was actually more difficult than you'd imagine.

[@IgnisVertex]

49:37 Wait, there was a time when Azeroth wasn't wracked by cataclysm?

[@dan240393]

Dodger's mom voice though. It makes me feel so safe.

[@Gormathius]

You know, I’m starting to feel like I’m the only one who thinks of Genna as the new TotalBiscuit. I’m not saying she’s _replaced_ John, mind you - no real life person can be in any way replaced - but she’s certainly done a good job _succeeding_ him.

[@Kimmyfuzzygogglepage]

Gormathius Nightstrider well TB did want genna to take over for him

[@wolfenhalo]

Love it! Greatness! Top quality chill content as always! :D

[@holysecret2]

I would say insecure is the feeling, unsecure is the lack of security/protection. Or they are used interchangably but I think it would make sense to split them up in this way.

[@GluezCraft]

Are we getting the time stamps back sometime? I just dont have enough time to watch the whole thing, previously i always looked at the topics and listened to the ones im intrested in.

[@Kimmyfuzzygogglepage]

EU Talox it just uploaded 4 hours ago, it be there In a day or so

[@midnitepagan9118]

What was your first mmo toon name? Mine was, wow orc rogue called Snotdribble

[@SamuPamu]

Best time of every week!!!

[@Zenzic_]

Waiting for CohhCarnage to be back on as a guest

[@FiXato]

James Scott Cohh-optional.

[@kasparsbraza4332]

really enjoying the show! Genna You look awesome!

[@clawhammr666]

Seems Genna is getting the hang of this, one change that couldn't say before when comments where disabled, might I suggest for Dodger/Brooke to have rather have her Twitch channel under her instead of KZbin considering she doesn't post there any more and stream has been her main thing for months.

[@elv3a424]

DemonClaw She did that for the new episode.

[@clawhammr666]

Yeah, noticed :)

[@DavyJonesSimRacing]

Great to hear TB's voice in the intro, we miss you. Great stuff guys!

[@Anacone]

That animation makes me always smile.

[@Luciferi4n]

If Crendor wears a wig on the next podcast I am gonna die of laughter...no seriously xD

[@moridin7632]

My very first online character was a Barbarian Shaman in Everquest named Banlon. It was fantastic. I was in an all Dwarf guild. I still have printed group pictures of us, lol. Good times.

[@Twistybeard]

SO fun you guys are talking about AC. I was LordMatx, in EQ i Was Thane

[@marsmech]

man TB at the start there got me choked up for a second.

[@DanH11]

Wow, Genna is looking fantastic in this episode. Glad to see her doing well.

[@valhallelujahbee7407]

my girlfriend left me an hour ago and I'm a wreck, but this is a solid escape Thank you all for the entertainment you've given me over the years Can't thank you all enough :)

[@gforcemx440]

Genna has lovely cheekbones, they "pop" when she smiles /not creepy

[@40Kfrog]

Looking forward to the Co-Optional Girlscast next week ^_^

[@2averageguysgaming339]

TBs wife complaining about the FOV brought me immense joy

[@MGPW]

My first MMO character was "Amelia", in the Discworld MUD. For actual MMOs, I made a Night Elf Druid called Claw-O'Form on a friend's WoW account.

[@ShiroKage009]

Anime Expo was intense. It was my first time going, and it was plain crazy. Two of my friends were around the LA and they never attended a convention before, and they decided to come for one day. Their impression was that it was insane. I don't think they got anything else from there.

[@Banana_Zach]

Genna, I would love to watch a Warframe lets play, lol even if you hate on it every second it would be a good view

[@IRMentat]

Banana Zach sadly the game is still very wiki heavy which is why gen quit originally. The quests are well worth doing but some gear is still trapped behind low drop chance repeat until tedium then repeat some more because it’s a 2-4% drop-chance missions.

[@Runetrantor]

Crendor with a wig, only surpassed by that idea for a week when there's no cooptional and he tries to impersonate everyone else and him.

[@eliamagrinelli517]

Ohhh god...chat rooms were amazing. What a rush of nostalgia. I talked to soooo many weird people in those