The CRAZY DRAMA of the 1978 Houston Oilers

In a crazy 15-hour stretch during the 1978 NFL season, Houston Oilers offensive coordinator Ken Shipp publicly called out starting quarterback Dan Pastorini, Pastorini left the team and demanded a trade, Pastorini went missing to the point where no one could find him, Pastorini rejoined the team, and Ken Shipp was fired by Bum Phillips. This is the story of that bizarre day, as well as the drama surrounding the 1978 Oilers
NOTE: There was a stretch around the minute mark that had to be severely altered because the NFL does not know how fair use works and blocked the video. If you see some abrupt jump cuts at that time, that is why; it is completely out of my control. No such cuts occur after the 1:15 mark.
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Members of the 1978 Oilers:
Ken Burrough
Dan Pastorini
Gifford Nielsen
Al Johnson
Toni Fritsch
Cliff Parsley
Willie Alexander
Bill Currier
Alvin Maxson
Kurt Knoff
Rob Carpenter
Greg Stemrick
Anthony Davis
Guido Merkens
Brian Duncan
JC Wilson
Earl Campbell
Mike Reinfeldt
CL Whittington
Larry Poole
Robert Woods
Tim Wilson
Robert Turner
Ronnie Coleman
Ted Thompson
Robert Brazile
Art Stringer
Gregg Bingham
Carl Mauck
Steve Kiner
David Carter
Ted Washington
Ed Fisher
John Schumacher
Steve Baumgartner
George Reihner
Elvin Bethea
Jimmy Dean
Andy Dorris
Conway Hayman
Ken Kennard
Greg Sampson
Morris Towns
Jim Young
Curley Culp
Johnnie Dirden
Mike Renfro
Billy "White Shoes" Johnson
Mike Barber
Conrad Rucker
Rich Caster

[@GR-bn3xj]

Mike renfro caught that pass and Houston should have been in the Super Bowl

[@seabrook1976]

Born and raised in Houston. The old joke about Dan Pastorini was that he could tell you how many lights there were in the Astrodome since he spent most of the game on his back. He was David Carr before David Carr.

[@astrostar49]

Remarkable story. Thanks for posting. I miss the Oilers in the NFL.

[@toddbiesel4288]

The last time ever that an Oilers assistant coach did something controversial. 😁

[@matthewdaley746]

People who think that Buddy Ryan should have been the coach of the Bears, got their answer, with, that display.

[@bluemoon95]

Lol

[@matthewdaley746]

@bluemoon95 Made even, more, priceless by the fact that Kevin Gilbride, was, far, more, successful, after, the fact, truly, totally, wonderful.

[@samhouston9162]

@@matthewdaley746 Not the Cardinals lol

[@matthewdaley746]

@@samhouston9162 They most certainly, weren't.

[@marksieber4626]

What a division this was back then. Every team was really good.

[@kimblandino]

The 75 Oilers and Bengals went 21-3 against teams who weren't The Steelers. Against Pittsburgh they went 0-4.

[@colderbeer]

A better coach would have taken the blame to the media.......cannot blame the QB for being so upset.....

[@elinovak3770]

A all time classic football video 🏉

[@Rantman9]

More back story on Pastorini, much like Danny White, early in his career he also served as the teams punter, while he wasn't the best at it, he was usually in the top half of the conference

[@bigdrew565]

@Matt Joseph It was the same thing with Jeff Hostetler. He actually blocked a punt on special teams in 1986. Took snaps as wide receiver, broke his leg on special teams. Supposedly the Giants were going to deactivate Bobby Johnson and bring him to the super bowl as a wide receiver, but Parcells changed his mind.

[@bubbafug00gle51]

I can't believe I didn't know this. Thanks for posting

[@bubbafug00gle51]

@Matt Joseph There were only two games he punted in and I don't think either time was really planned. He punted 3 times in the last game of 1970, I suspect Bobby Walden was hurt and it was either too late in the week to sign a punter or the team just wanted to save money since the season was over. He also punted 5 times against the Bengals in 1980, but Colquitt also punted once in that game so that was almost certainly an in-game injury. Still an interesting tidbit.

[@Boomhower89]

@@bubbafug00gle51 1972 punting stats he punted over 80 times with one blocked and avg over 41 yds per punt

[@bubbafug00gle51]

@@Boomhower89 My response wasn't regarding Pastorini. It was a response to Matt Joseph claiming Bradshaw had "also been a punter". His post has since been deleted or just disappeared the way comments on YT do. Obviously Pastorini and Bradshaw's kicking careers are miles apart (316 career kicks to 8)

[@davidbalzano7025]

When I think of Pastorini I can't help but think of how he was traded straight up to Raiders for Ken Stabler and how neither distinguished themselves with their new teams. Dan getting hurt paved the way for the unexpected career Renaissance of Plunkett who after being considered a bust with Pat's, 49ers, won 2 Super Bowls. Dan's career was soon over. That Pastorini for Stabler trade and it's aftermath would make for an interesting video.

[@CCMDrummer]

The narrator failed to mention that in the 1972 and '73 seasons, Dan Pastorini had a very poor offensive line. Pastorini really didn't have a decent offensive line until the 1975 season. In the late 70s he had one of the best offensive lines in the NFL. Earl Campbell also benefited from the Oilers improve O line when he arrived in 1978.

[@gilbertgiles]

Pastorini = bad ass busting of a chump coach as route to awesome two-year run and best of Oiler franchise.

[@Mistertbones]

After his NFL career was over, Dan Pastorini would drive a Top Fuel Dragster in NHRA and IHRA drag racing.

[@samhouston9162]

It seems like all of Houston's great sports teams also have some of the greatest turmoil in sports.

[@luisvaldes1568]

00 Ken Burroughs Yes!

[@Tdull-tv1ds]

Dan Pastorani isn’t a Hall of Famer but he was influential because he was the first NFL QB to wear a flak jacket which is the most essential piece of equipment for QBs to wear because it helps protect their ribs and Dan worn it during his comeback year when he played with some broken ribs. So yeah he wasn’t great by any means during his generation but he most likely would’ve been great in today’s generation with all the rule changes that help benefit the offense.

[@matthewdaley746]

He is if you're a Raiders fan, the injury he suffered, paved the way, for, Jim Plunkett, who would lead the team to two more, Championships.

[@Tdull-tv1ds]

@Matthew Daley I’m going to assume that you’re being cynical here because how can you praise a player for getting hurt and losing his job to another guy who essentially lead the team to two Super Bowls? What’s next, you’re gonna praise Don Majikowski for getting hurt and letting Brett Favre become the franchise QB for the Packers during the 90’s and 2000’s? If you are then man you’re pretty heartless. I understand that yeah you can lose your job due to injuries in both college and pro football but man we have become really harsh to guys who maybe were good enough to earn that starting job before they got hurt.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@Tdull-tv1ds No, just being observant, and, if you think I'm bad, just listen to the Patriots fans who only praise Drew Bledsoe, for, giving them Tom Brady

[@Tdull-tv1ds]

@Matthew Daley It’s just upsetting because players especially the competitive ones who I know of don’t want to be praised as the guy who got injured and lost their job to a future Hall of Famer and my response to those Patriot fans is that they are absolutely heartless and have no soul. They only want to see their team win and they don’t care how it happens as long as their team is a champion. I’m sorry but I don’t have any respect for fans who praise players for getting hurt. I know that injuries are a part of our sports but still it leaves me upset when stuff like this happens.

[@matthewdaley746]

@Tdull1993 Drew Bledsoe's made peace, with, that, and, from what I've read, made a minor fortune in wine, there, are, truly, worse, fates, than, that.

[@luisvaldes1568]

By the way Dan P. was married to a Playboy Playmate at the time. Might have been PMOY. I'am not sure. That's when Playboy was big time.

[@bobscott2429]

That was British actress June Wilkinson. They were married in 1973, and divorced in 1982. According to Wikipedia, Wilkinson was never a Playmate, but she made numerous appearances in Playboy from 1958 to 1962.

[@kbanks827]

I think pastorini would’ve been a lot more effective passer if the Oilers used the shotgun offense

[@johnnguyen270]

The 1978 Houston Oilers broke MY NEW ENGLAND HEART!!!!

[@richardm1062]

Thought for a minute we were going to get to the end of one of his quarterback videos without that obligatory passer rating / spike the ball on every play reference. But it wasn't to be. :)

[@SnakeHiggins]

Jesus, what the hell was going on in the NFL in the 70's?! It seems as if you could get a good story from every single week of that decade. Anyways, great video as always man! Your destined to be one of the top KZbin channels in a very short period of time. 👍

[@zerubbablestranger6970]

Was Jesus Christ making this video? WOW! My fat f-king Buddha! That’s divine intervention!

[@kevinthetruckdriver353]

NFL back in the 1960's to the early 1980's. *REAL MEN* played in the NFL. The product on the field was *REAL FOOTBALL.* Then the NFL ruin the product on the field by handcuffing the defensive side of the field. Making the offense pass happy while abandoning the running game.

[@jmad627]

@@kevinthetruckdriver353 couldn’t agree more. I rarely watch football these days. It’s too offensive.

[@kbanks827]

Much love to my hs coach CL Whittington who played for the oilers for 5 years during the luv ya blue era.

[@67marlins81]

Good, accurate and honest post.

[@scottconner7930]

43 Years Ago

[@Metalbass10000]

Great video. The OC was a lying coward.

[@luisvaldes1568]

I loved the Oilers, except when they played the my Chargers. See 1979 AFC playoff game upset. 2021 both teams are long gone to other cities.

[@leogetz3570]

I love that fact that everyone went to his "apartment" looking for him, so he decided to go dove hunting instead. Can you imagine a starting QB living in an apartment today.... or even dove hunting?? Also, focusing on this game against the Rams, it was one of Earl Campbell's greatest highlights when he lowered his head and bulldozed over Isiah Robertson and having his jersey torn off while 3 or 4 other guys were trying to tackle him

[@timbrown5576]

Maybe he lives in Houston temporarily during the season and has a house in California.

[@robertbluestein7800]

You missed a GREAT opportunity to show Earl bowling over Nolan Cromwell and getting his shirt ripped off at the same time!

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

I wanted to include that clip so badly. The video would’ve been blocked by the NFL in a nanosecond if I did

[@williambrown3458]

I agree with Pastorini where they were running well because I believe Earl Campbell leveled Rams linebacker Isiah Robertson on a running play where Campbell gave him a helmet in the chest.

[@mayduck1]

Great story and while Ken Shipp is a hero around MTSU I respect Pastorini for his stance and now I see why Shipp did not get another NFL job. Shipp was the Jets interim coach who benched Joe Namath for a curfew violation before a MNF game with the Chargers and without Namath playing a full game the Jets did not have a chance to win that game which they did not. Mr Shipp seemed to be on a ego trip and while the 1970s had great HOF coaches like Shula ,Landry ,Noll ,Allen ,Madden, Stram, Ewbank, Brown and Grant there were a lot of really bad coaches like Shipp too.

[@brianmitchell5906]

It seems to be a recurring part of your videos that you say the QB's rating is worse than if he just spiked the ball on every play.

[@RCVictoryLane]

10:46 for our favorite catchphrase

[@chrisslaughter5552]

Dan Was a Bad man...They just got Robbed against Pittsburgh when Renfro scored it was for a Super Bowl berth and they got screwed.

[@DMS-pq8]

Jag needs to do a video about that game!

[@bubbafug00gle51]

LMAO, that is such a bunch of whiner BS. They kicked a field goal after the blown call, so at most it cost them 4 points. They lost the game by 14 points. Do the math. I suppose by some magic of momentum Matt Bahr would have missed the field goal on the Steelers following drive... Ellender wouldn't have bobbled the kickoff... Guido Merkens wouldn't have fumbled...and Pittsburgh wouldn't have gone through the Houston d like a hot knife through oil to put the game away. The better team won, the worse team and it's fans spent 40-plus years crying about it with no signs of letting up. Look on the bright side, the Titans look really good this year!

[@bubbafug00gle51]

@@DMS-pq8 Yup, he needs to do a video about how baseless the Oilers whining is.

[@scottaznavourian540]

Wait he called out the qb for his own stupid decision 😆😂

[@robstack3712]

That was well done👏🤩

[@Gutbomber]

LUV YA BLUE!

[@jamesfarrington9030]

Pastorini and Burrough - what a threat.

[@d0nKsTaH]

I remember Pastorini leaving the Raiders to go race cars or something... Then he was in the Voyagers tv show... wild times.

[@prairiehawker]

Please do a video on Pastorini's Drag Racing Career post football.

[@jmed412]

I've made similar comments about the field at the Astrodome in the 70s. How bad did the lease have to be to not get the sliding pits removed and turn put in?

[@lawrencetaylor4101]

It is rumored that Dan Pastorini wisely refused an offer to go dove hunting with Dick Cheney that day. I mean, you have to save face.

[@Jim-nk5gb]

It's a testament to Dan that he made the Pro Bowl AFTER 4 years of relentless pounding on godawful teams. If he'd been drafted by LA, with those looks and talent, he'd have been Hollywood Dan and among the greats.

[@chadwickwhite6107]

Yes. But did Dan Pastorini SPIKE the football into the GROUND on EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE PLAY?

[@RCVictoryLane]

10:46

[@kyledamron]

He does throw a nice deep ball

[@Boomhower89]

I liked Pastorini but he is similar to Dak Prescott. Pastorini had a stronger arm but neither have touch. Accuracy is what makes a pro.

[@Lawomenshoops]

Pastorini was the first QB to wear a flak jacket to protect his bruised/broken ribs! He went to the company and they designed the flak jacket to protect his ribs.

[@TonyWatson9]

He didn’t go to the company. The guy busted into his hospital room, Byron Donzis, with a flak jacket and a baseball bat and demonstrated it.

[@Kacee2]

I was born in Houston in 1953 and the1960 Oilers won the AFC championship. After that they never did squat. Earl Campbell was great and I really enjoyed watching him but even with him they always found a way to blow. Same with the 93 Oilers. They were their own worst enemy. The Texans are the Oilers. They just changed uniforms. Some NFL franchises are just cursed. Houston , Detroit, Cleveland and Jacksonville certainly seem to be. None of them have ever even been in a super bowl.

[@levikatriel]

1. Many teams wanted to get Earl Campbell once his contract expired. First, in 1983, Bill Walsh tampered with him in an attempt to get him away from the oilers. Official Jaguar Gator 9 made a video about the tampering. 2. Then, Campbell was almost traded to Washington. If that happened, then he would have been alongside John Riggins. That would have been the greatest backfield ever. Official Jaguar Gator 9 made a video about that.

[@clarkhull7546]

Wow! Riggins and Earl Campbell would have been unstoppable. Never knew that

[@sonsofliberty75]

Replying to (2)…The Oilers had Rob Carpenter who later with the Giants had a monster rushing performance in playoffs. The Oilers didn’t use Carpenter effectively alongside Campbell. Campbell was overused and Carpenter was underutilized. Campbell’s career could have been prolonged if this running back duo had been managed properly. I was so disappointed when Carpenter was traded to the Giants, but at least he got the carries he deserved for a few years; injury slowed and eventually ended his career.

[@bravobravoh1344]

Pastorini could really fling that ball. I think he even had a better arm than Bradshaw to be honest.

[@NillyNilly546]

The offensive coordinator was putting up more of a fight with his QB than in actual games.

[@johncate9541]

Sounds like to me that Pastorini was completely in the right. He didn't call that play, and no matter how badly he may have executed it, the coach called it and he had to own it. Trying to pin it on Pastorini and throw him under the bus was reason enough to Bum Phillips to fire Shipp.

[@markbrian7179]

How hard is it to hand the ball off to Earl Campbell?

[@matthewdaley746]

About as hard as it, was, for, him to run around the defense, it, was, great to watch, but, there would be a price to pay, later, a huge one.

[@gilbertgiles]

"Luv Ya Blue" saved? Shoot, son, it was born. Love Ya Blue is basically what Phillips told that idiot Shipp when he fired him.

[@williamhild1793]

HATED Dan Pastorini! Seemed like such a pretty-boy entitled douchebag who wasn't half as good as he thought he was. Yeah, I'm probably WAAAYYY off in my assessment, but that's how he came across to me. :)

[@matthewdaley746]

You're, actually, closer, than, you think, and, in 1980, The, Chickens Came Home To Roost, there's something of a message in that.

[@Lawomenshoops]

Pastorini was a hot head. He once shoved a reporter to the ground, after the reporter wrote something bad about his play!

[@1USACitizen192]

Also a drunk

[@scottaznavourian540]

Well they played the patriots in the playoffs that year and we fired Fairbanks and he had to get a court order to coach that game 😆😂

[@Lawomenshoops]

It's not Luv YOU Blue, it Luv YA Blue!

[@SuperAV21]

JaguarGator9 didn't know it that way when narrated this video. I, myself, didn't know the Houston Oilers (now Tennessee Titans) were known as the "Luv Ya Blue" Oilers of 1978-80 until I was watching some episodes of NFL Top 10 on NFL Network a decade ago while being in my 20s (I'm 33, now as well as a concerned New York Giants fan). I'm an NFC guy originally from the state of New Jersey who's been living in Miami, Florida (which is the Dolphins' home territory in the AFC East) for nearly 14 years.

[@Lawomenshoops]

@@SuperAV21 it’s about being accurate. Many highlight videos from that time show the signs that clearly read Luv Ya Blue.

[@SuperAV21]

@@Lawomenshoops I've seen some highlights of Oilers fans hanging "Luv Ya Blue" signs all across the Astrodome from circa 1978-79 over a decade ago, primarily on NFL Top 10 episodes. So, it's best for you to talk to JaguarGator9 about that since you're more knowledgeable of the era than I am.

[@teto85]

Jim Plunkett, Archie Manning and Dante Pastorini were drafted 1, 2 & 3 that year. Manning stayed with the Saints for his entire career. Plunkett started with the Pats and then moved to the 49ers as a backup. He was later picked up by the Raiders to be a back-up for Pastorini who had been traded to the Raiders for Kenny Stabler. Pastorini was injured and Plunkett took over and led the Raiders to victory in SB 15 and again in SB 18. Pastorini was last seen driving a boat DWI on some lake in Texas.

[@NosferatusCoffin]

Manning played for the Oilers and Vikings at the end of his career.

[@luisvaldes1568]

Right on, the vid does not state that. Pastorini broke his leg week 5.

[@teto85]

@@luisvaldes1568 He was very close to being Theismanned

[@arrowdave646]

Include Ken Stabler in those QB'S mentioned

[@jasonoverbeck5042]

When weren't the Oilers dysfunctional? The '93 Oilers had the talent to win the SB, but they're internal strife kept them from it.

[@shackdaddy7106]

I guess my only question is why didn’t Pastorini change the play in the huddle? Would he have been fined if he had done so? Part of the blame does rest with Pastorni. Even though his coach was a complete idiot.

[@leogetz3570]

QB's didn't do that back then, or at least very rarely

[@shackdaddy7106]

@@leogetz3570 Well Fran Tarkenton was playing then, and trust me nobody called the plays except him. Pastorini at that time was an eight year veteran. I find it hard to believe that he had to change. And even if he didn’t, what were they going to do yell at him. The coach was wrong. But I also blame Pastorini equally for not taking matters into his own hands. And then blaming the coach for calling a stupid play. Maybe it’s a testimony to how much better today’s quarterbacks are that they are expected from the time they are rookies to be able to change to play at the line of scrimmage. Of course a lot of them are not good at that. But it still happens.

[@leogetz3570]

@@shackdaddy7106 only if his coach let him change or call his own plays. Very few teams were like that. Most sent in one play and that was the one expected to be ran.

[@richardadams4928]

Always liked Pastorini, never understood why his performance fell off a cliff like it did. I remember he was injured with the Raiders (broken leg, ISTR). But that should have been surmountable. I'd say he still had a pretty good career, overall.

[@johnwade7760]

Seems like I remember him having some struggles with substance abuse.

[@CTubeMan]

1. It’s a sign of how good the quarterbacks were in the AFC Central in the late 1970s that one could arguably say Pastorini was the worst of the four starters. 2. That Rams game featured an iconic run by Earl Campbell, as did the Dolphins Monday Night game you mentioned, yet you didn’t show either one. Copyright issues? 3. You referenced your video about the 1975 game between the Bills and Jets which I believe you said facilitated Ken Shipp being named Jets head coach the rest of the year. You mentioned Toni Fritsch’s role in the controversial decision then-coach Charley Winner made in the game. 4. You said the line (Bart) at 11:02, but I was also expecting to hear it at around 2:05.

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

On point 2, that’s exactly the reason. Would’ve been blocked in a heartbeat if I included either one of those

[@rongabrieljr.8784]

I wondered if that Rams game was the one Earl Campbell put his helmet in Isiah Robertson's chest.

[@bubbafug00gle51]

At his best, Pastorini was average. I would take Ken Anderson, Brian Sipe or TB any day over him.

[@bobscott2429]

Point 4: Would that have been the latest mention ever in a JG9 video?

[@terencehill2320]

Fuuuuuu.....

[@johnliberty3647]

Never chew out a player, you tell them politely what needs to be done to win... they listen and keep their job or they fail and you replace them. The tough guy act is merely an act.. Couldn't listen to the video due to complicated reasons (Deaf and my equipment is charging so I watch soundless videos to kill time). I wonder if my opinion changes after I hear the video.

[@Boomhower89]

No way Bradshaw was a top rated qb. They won in spite of him. Ken Anderson was likely the best followed by Staubach. I’m a cowboys fan do or die but Anderson could throw 70 yds accurately but had the best control over anyone.

[@matthewdaley746]

Damn Right, just, like, the Oilers becoming a, Dynasty, despite, Grant Fuhr being a total sieve, who couldn't stop a beach ball.

[@alice_evermore]

I liked Pastorini's flare but he was too often a terrible, inaccurate passer. If he had not been injured in week 5, allowing Jim Plunkett to take over, the Raiders might not have even made the play-off's in 1980.

[@davidbalzano7025]

Exactly. Interesting trade in that Houston went 11 and 5 in spite of Stabler looking bad with only 13 tds and 28 picks after having a much better 79 season with Raiders. Plunkett wasn't even in anyone's conversation about elites quarterbacks at that point and he sure connected well especially with Cliff Branch in his 2 Super Bowl wins with Raiders.

[@kyle1910]

As mentioned in another comment, this was the game with the iconic Earl Campbell run where he lowered his head and rammed (no pun intended) into Isaiah Robertson's stomach, a move that would be flagged under today's rules.

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, I can't help, but, think it, was, that play, (along, with, his nature, of, never, avoiding contact, at all), which has put him in the heartbreaking condition that he's in, now.

[@robertbluestein7800]

I thought it was Cromwell. Either way, his intestines probably equaled the brains of a lot of these old timers

[@matthewdaley746]

@@robertbluestein7800 Earl Campbell's, "doesn't know the meaning of the word, around," running style is the reason that he got, very old, very quickly.

[@jeffvanmeter1330]

Bum clearly made the right call. Bum took over the play calling duties and won with a very simple formula: hand the ball off to Earl Campbell 40-50 times per game, throw 10 times, let the defense do the rest.

[@Tyrunner0097]

Pastroini said that the play-calling was really simple: They'd run Earl every play, until he'd tell Pastorini in the huddle that he was tired, so then Pastorini would call a couple of pass plays until Earl was ready again.

[@harleybuffington7493]

Hey I just thought you should know that an Instagram account named nfl.fun.facts is making posts based on your videos without credit. I dm’d them asking to give you credit but they just deleted my message.

[@OfficialJaguarGator9]

Thanks for letting me know. I’ll see what I can do

[@harleybuffington7493]

@@OfficialJaguarGator9 of course! I just noticed it was odd. 3 times now I’ve seen them post a fact that you made a video about a day or two earlier.

[@marcwhitlock5450]

No mention that he won a superbowl with the Raiders? Dam that was a harsh take to get in your spike the ball line in

[@misterresister8271]

It's not like Pastorini did anything to earn that ring. He was 2-3 as the Raiders starter before he broke his leg. Was Pastorini even on the roster for Super Bowl XIV?

[@sbcj9]

Boy after hearing this sounds like Dan should of sticked with baseball. Cause I believe he got drafted by the Yankees. He might of gotten a world series too. Who knows

[@matthewdaley746]

To be fair, he did end up, winning, the, Championship, in 1980, though, he, was, injured, for, the majority of that year.

[@sbcj9]

@@matthewdaley746 crap that's right he was with Oakland. Those last 3 years of his career were some rough ones. I think he played what 10 12 games total those last 3 years. After he left Houston he did not have a good end to his career. I don't think he even played much with the Eagles and Rams.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@sbcj9 That injury changed the legacy of the Raiders, I'm, not, certain they, win, the, SB, in 1980, with, him at, QB, and, I'm absolutely certain he's gone by 1983, otherwise.

[@sbcj9]

@@matthewdaley746 1980 is when Jim Plunkett was the QB right. And yeah he missed the 1982 season and 1983 was his last year.

[@matthewdaley746]

@sbcj9 Yeah, though, he, was, the backup to start the season, he would play one year, with, the Rams, and, two more, with, the Eagles.

[@BG-pd6os]

Pastorini had the strongest arm i ever witnessed!

[@vancedurbin1132]

Oh, if the Oilers had a better quarterback, then they could have won a Super Bowl in the Luv Ya Blue days. Pastorini wasn't good. That trade for a washed-up Stabler didn't help anything. Stabler was bad in 1980.

[@misterresister8271]

Dan Pastorini was the definition of a barely mediocre 70s quarterback. Yet somehow he won 3 playoff games

[@bubbafug00gle51]

You forgot to put won in quotes. His team won those games, he managed not to lose them

[@orangelab6846]

Rough crowd. Look at the qbs now. A majority of them complete passes that barely pass the line of scrimmage. Much different game back then. Minimal protection from the rules and refs. Highest paid players barely made 200,000 a year. And didn't miss games due to a hangnail. Most of today's guys would suck in the 70s.

[@misterresister8271]

@@bubbafug00gle51 Naw in two of those wins he had stellar stats, I'll give credit where it's due

[@misterresister8271]

@@orangelab6846 Fair enough. Men were men back then...

[@bubbafug00gle51]

@@misterresister8271 Wow, just checked those gamelogs. I didn't realize just how good he was in the 78 playoff wins, just remembered how bad he was vs Steelers and Broncos. I'll grant that he won 2 but he Rex Grossmaned his way to the other.