The CREEPIEST Cases of People Disappearing

[@ScaryInteresting]

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[@FHBStudio]

Could you do a story on internet stalking/online privacy related matters? Would be interesting relating it to VPN's for example. I always wonder how they would come into play.

[@masterbruce556]

Laziest name for a vpn that I've ever heard.

[@waitingforanalibi2224]

Its currently thundering as I watch this in the U.K. Talk about ambience!

[@thierry954]

@@waitingforanalibi2224same thunderstorm just came overhead in London 😅

[@davesmith5656]

"Whom she met in church", not "who [sic] she met in church". She met "him", not "he". He/who, subject; him/whom, object.

[@teenprez]

Brandon’s story is so haunting from his parent’s perspective. Unfortunately, it seems like he was probably much more drunk than his parents or he realized, given that he ran off the road and also was mistaken about his location.

[@alphaintuition1]

Exactly👍That's what I just said👍.

[@mylesgray3470]

True, and my guess, a land owner shot him when he was walking across at night. Never a good idea to walk across private property, especially at night.

[@Blox117]

the 2nd story is worse, they let an african grapist and mrderer go because of its skin color

[@ajamalaysiavar5540]

Nah. I don't think so. He probably went on some dirt roads or off road and followed some fucked up directions and ended up mistaken cuz it's really dark out there. Prob trying to avoid a dwi, which only takes a couple drinks.

[@cainmathewson1857]

Probably. It's usually not as mysterious as people think

[@jadeybabes33]

As a parent myself - having your son disappear literally while talking to you on the phone and feeling so helpless is a worst nightmare. Those poor parents. That would haunt them forever.

[@lightbeing8174]

when the devil decides to take you that's it.

[@danem2215]

@lightbeing8174 What the fuck kind of stupid shit is that to say?

[@sleepysombre4307]

@@lightbeing8174cringe

[@Hopeskyesk]

@@lightbeing8174what a horrible thing to say???? why would you say the devil took him? Why wouldn’t you say god took him? Or maybe just keep your mouth shut and don’t say anything at all?

[@J74556]

@@Hopeskyesk Nobody has original thoughts anymore. Kids are cold hearted. You shouldn't seem so surprised.

[@thurayya8905]

I have heard the first story before and have had time to think about it. Brandon went missing on or by farmland, which is the only place that hasn't been throughly searched. Neither Brandon or his remains have turned up and since he couldn't have been given a ride in the middle of a field, he is still there. By his expletive, something happened that caused immediate physical alarm. Either he dropped into a hole of some sort or someone snuck up on him silently. Until there is a thorough search of that farm, nothing will happen.

[@jamieharris2633]

I have often thought he fell into a well or a hole of some type. This case still baffles me.

[@susanveach9013]

I agree, his commenting "oh shit" is something you would say if you fell or tripped.

[@khworker1322]

@@susanveach9013 or if you see something coming at you like a bright light. I would not have considered this 10 years ago but this case looks like something extraterrestrial or paranormal.

[@foo219]

@@khworker1322 The only bright lights he saw were a town. They weren't coming toward him, he was going toward them. And probably fell in a well or cistern.

[@jamieharris2633]

@@foo219 he said he seen lights of a town. But where his car was found they said there is no way he could have. So if he seen lights but it wasn't possible to see the lights of a town then what lights did he see? It's a strange case all the way around.

[@lacylaizure6540]

Parents: "We were speaking to Brandon, we were trying to find eachother, as he called us to pick him up. Something happened that shocked him and he went silent, and would no longer answer his phone." Cop: "he has the right to be missing, and will probably show up." He may have the right to be missing, but nothing about what happened indicates that was his intention at all! What an idiot. Sad you have to pass a law forcing people to use common sense.

[@eadweard.]

I'm sceptical the conversation really went like that.

[@leo-mf22]

Brandon is an idiot for driving drunk....

[@robertbeckman2054]

A lot of police suck rocks anyway.

[@35mm21]

@@eadweard. You sure? There have been planes that crashed and no one bothered to go look for entire days. One teenager can absolutely slip through the cracks.

[@AyeliaGDoren]

Yeah that was just absurd. Given the circumstances they should have started the search immediately.

[@LASAGNA_LARRY]

I don’t want to blame the parents, but Brandon should have 100% stayed in the car until morning. A locked car is shelter providing protection from the elements, dangerous animals, and unarmed people. He could have simply passed out until morning then get picked up by his parents, AAA, or the police.

[@Hopeskyesk]

Agreed. Or just called 911 and stayed in that spot to begin with. I understand there may have been a chance he was intoxicated, but a DWI (with nobody hurt and a hard lesson learned) is 100% better than losing your life.

[@zippersocks]

True. But in the moment, I’d fear police more than walking in a field. Making the safer decision to sleep in your car is enough reason to get arrested if you are intoxicated.

[@nordskyrim6312]

​@@zippersocks Winch is still better then being fuckin dead

[@melissafraser2190]

I was thinking it might have been a mountain lion. That would explain the “oh shit”

[@negtype13]

Yes, it easy to say that in hindsight but you have to remember he ( at least for his reality) believed he was just minutes from home. If you broke down and were less than 10 min from home, knowing the area like the back of your hand, you’d stay in your car?? Especially fearing the police after some drinks?? I understand that staying there till picked up but remember that wasn’t working and being young combined with all the ease of being so close to home I’m sure this overwhelmed both parties. Would you think you were going to just disappear (at least b4 this story😝) when you were in your recognized hometown? I know I wouldn’t.

[@scruffy-thejanitor]

Brandon falling into a cistern that was left open at night makes a lot of sense and explains the "Oh shit!" then immediate silence, and following loss of scent trail. Anyone owning the land would not want the liability of an injury/death on their farm. It makes sense that no one wants their land searched in that case. Such a sad situation

[@mannysada1131]

Damn…that’s insightful information

[@Argumemnon]

If I were falling in a cistern, I wouldn't whisper "oh, shit!", I'd scream "WAAAHH!"

[@gregtrust5599]

That doesn’t explain the “oh shit” whatsoever, he wouldn’t even have time to react to that falling into something

[@davidk7212]

Yea, the "oh shit" makes it sound to me like stepped off onto a steep decent or something and yelled it right as he realized he lost his footing, then rolled down into a gully or something. if he fell into a hole he'd never be able to yell it.

[@LancasterResponding]

⁠@@gregtrust5599saying oh shit literally takes less than half a second to say.

[@thelogicaldanger]

Lesson to be learned, never leave one's car at night. Regardless of what happened to him, it's almost certain he would still be alive and safe if he had stayed in his car until morning. With Cindy....it seems likely that who ever made her disappear was someone she knew and trusted. If she had actually run away, most likely she would have been discovered by now.

[@marhawkman303]

The fact he cut through the field... yeesh. I regularly walk at night with no lights.... and I wouldn't do that. Dunno what he was thinking doing that, but clearly he thought it was safer than it actually was.

[@J.C...]

That's not logical whatsoever. If she had run away, she'd likely be discovered by now? Discovered by who? Right. Because everybody in every city and town across America knows about every missing child and can identify them as soon as they see the, huh? You're ridiculous.

[@marhawkman303]

@@J.C... In Cindy's case there's just no reason to think she'd decided to run. she's not someone who was into living mobile. If she'd cut and run, she'd have probably made contact with her family.

[@thelogicaldanger]

@@J.C... 1) Because everyone and their brother is doing DNA tests, and many "lost" people have been found by them. If she had run away, chances are she would have had children, and her children may have children, and one of them would do a DNA test, and someone in the family left behind would do a DNA test, and then they would realize they had a close relative they had no idea about, and investigate, and it would lead to her. 2) It is very hard for anyone today function and have no official identity. Fraudulent birth certificates or social security cards are easily found out today....and most retired people need social security to live on. If she wanted a passport to travel, she would need a valid birth certificate. Unless she was living out as a survivalist somewhere, it is most likely that at some point her lack of official documentation would have raised red flags and been investigated. 3) Emotionally, most people who run away, come back at some point to reunite with their family. Especially since there was no indication of abuse or hate between her and her parents or siblings. Sure, she might have ran away to get some freedom, but to never initiate any contact with them? That is extremely unlikely. 4) there are true crime/mystery aficionados in every community, and on-line groups dedicated to missing people and posting age-progressed photos and having large discussions of what could have happened to these people. So again, unless she was living as a survivalist by herself, her just interacting in the community means at some point, someone with an interest in missing people would see her age-progressed photo and realize the resemblance.

[@14mwh014m]

"most likely" like for Petra Pazsitka, dont assume time will solve cold cases, it "most likely" doesnt.

[@Hoochfox]

-"GW" had regular passing contact with Cindy -"GW" as a maintennance worker had easy access to products which could be used to make chloroform -"A smell like nail polish remover" could describe badly made DIY chloroform -Cindy disappeared with no sign of a struggle -"GW" may or may not have had the opportunity to misdirect police regarding the time of Cindy's disappearance Who, where, and why was the mystery caller afraid of being caught giving information to the police? What colour was GW's house?

[@squidwardfromua]

"It takes at least five minutes of inhaling an item soaked in chloroform to render a person unconscious" wiki

[@katerinaaqu]

​@@squidwardfromuawasn't there a man who in real time filmed himself inhaling chloroform and he dropped down after two seconds?

[@OllieWolly]

​@@squidwardfromua You looked up something on Wiki and immediately thought it to be true without further research? That's silly. :3

[@squidwardfromua]

@@OllieWolly Yeah I'd rather believe wikipedia than automatically assume everything on wiki is a liе. I heard inhaling chlorоform rendering a pеrson uncоnscious immediately is a mуth before this. Gоt sources proving wіki is lyіng here?

[@squidwardfromua]

@@OllieWolly Wiki references "Association of Anesthetics" there. Provide sources proving it's wrong.

[@TAKAT0NIC]

Cindy’s buzzer not being connected to the police or centre security certainly makes more sense with the knowledge the lawyers were running drugs out of the office. Also, how did they know that the page her book was open to was the only violent scene in the whole book? Were the lawyers also fans of romance novels or did they sit down and have a skim through before calling the cops? It’s just such an odd and specific detail…

[@emmahenrich6148]

they probably didn’t know it was the only scene in the book at the time and it just freaked them out. police may have gone through the book later to see if she wrote anything in it, especially if they initially thought she may have run away

[@marhawkman303]

Yeah, Cindy probably got killed by someone she worked with. Possibly the people who reported her missing. The detail of "there was an odd, sweet smell" um yeah, chloroform. someone she trusted.... to some extent, was who did it. It was a locked room, and no forced entry. Also, another wrinkle: her background suggests she was not a person who is happy to play along with illegal activities. This might have been the real issue. Her bosses wanted her gone discreetly since they wanted not to incriminate themselves. The harassment was INTERNAL. This is why she couldn't get away from it. It wasn't her boss's voice on the phone, but it was someone her boss asked to do it. When it failed, they used a more complicated method. I think the call was someone trying to throw police off the trail. it had just enough detail for police to try looking into it, but not enough for it to actually be useful. "Two white houses owned by the same people"... but not their location or NAME of owner? really? The police did due diligence trying to follow-up, but, I don't think the call was legit.

[@no_peace]

I was speculating that the perpetrator knew she liked trashy books so they planted that there

[@no_peace]

I don't know the book but if it was famous, people would know the scenes in it

[@marhawkman303]

@@no_peace well, yeah, that fits if it was her employers.

[@azdrifter3968]

I have a strange disappearance story that I still think about. When I was about 14 and living in a subdivision in the woods of northern AZ I had a good friend who lived nearby whos family had taken in a friends kid for awhile. The kid was about 9 and was a very strange kid. One day we were going to go on a hike through the woods like we often did for something to do. My friends mom told us to take the kid with us. We went out with him and were walking for a good while when suddenly the kid just vanishes. He was right there with us, then suddenly he wasn't. We looked all around, called for him, tried looking for any tracks he may have left, but no sign of him anywhere. We were freaking out. We knew he wouldn't be able to find his way back on his own, but we had to go back and tell someone we lost him and get help to find him. We walk all the way back to my friends house, calling his name the whole way thinking maybe he turned back and tried going to the house for some reason. We get back to the house, dreading having to tell everyone we lost him, and as soon as we walk in there he is. Sitting on the couch. My friends mom immediately gets on my friend saying that we were supposed to take him, but we left without him. We're standing there completely confused and start asking him how he got back and why did he turn around and go back without us. He says he never left with us and his mom says he's been sitting in the living room with her the whole time. We thought for sure they are messing with us, we knew for a fact he was with us for a good while. We kept saying he was with us, but his mom keeps telling us that no he wasn't. If they were messing with us it sure would be out of character for his mom to do that and it would be pretty surprising that the kid made it all the way back alone. We asked his mom more than a few times throughout the years after if she was just screwing with us but she always said no and would say we were screwing with her telling her the kid was with us. Did we slip into a parallel universe or something? We don't know, but it freaked us out, and always will.

[@esahutske]

wild

[@earnold1896]

Very freaky.

[@thecorruptversion]

This is a case that corresponds to the "huh, I thought you were with us, we must have got confused. Anyway..." kind.

[@user-ug1dh1zy4v]

So, you figured a 14 yo boy couldn't find his own way home? This is the part of ur account that makes no sense to me, though I'm not saying there's no explanation, just missing some detail, perhaps, or it is fiction hehe.

[@user-ug1dh1zy4v]

Or "nine years old", sry I misread, even at 9 some children have good sense o direction...

[@AG-ng8gt]

I live in Minnesota and I'm the same age as Brandon. I've been haunted by his case ever since it happened. It does seem like he was probably more drunk than he knew or was admitting to, but it's still disturbing that he just vanished while on the phone with his parents.

[@deseosuho]

We have a rash of half a dozen unexplained drowning deaths here in Austin of people fitting my age, sex, race demographic, and centering on my street. I'd give 80% odds they're fentanyl deaths, with the fent being mixed in some other party drug and people stumbling into the water, but it does give me pause.

[@35mm21]

The idea that you can't search a farm for a missing teenager because it might inconvenience a farmer is one of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard.

[@maycuervo]

You can’t search it because it’s private property and without a court order you can’t legally enter

[@35mm21]

@@maycuervo 1) You don't need a warrant if you think someone is in immediate harm, which would be the case in the initial search. 2) It would not be hard to get a search warrant for something like that to look later on. There is ample probable cause.

[@maycuervo]

@@35mm21 so why didn’t they get a warrant?

[@Eliblue90]

I thought exactly the same.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

There's no evidence anyone is in "immediate harm", particularly specifically relating to any individual property. Do you think the police have a right to search your house if someone has gone missing nearby?@@35mm21

[@smittysmeee]

While it's obvious law enforcement handled Brandon's case very poorly given how he went missing, it is important that adults "have the right to go missing." Abuse victims and other victims of violence and threats unfortunately rely on that right to survive. Police ought to be discerning. A search for Brandon should have begun immediately, but also don't lead abusers to their victims.

[@KoffinKat]

Police should always try to find that person first and foremost. If and only if it becomes clear that the person might have had a reason to voluntarily disappear should police treat it as a "runaway person who doesn't wanna be found". Simply saying that people have "the right to be missing" sounds downright insulting when applied broadly, without any thoughts given to each individual case. It's almost like saying "if you're not a minor or mentally ill, we don't give a f*ck if you're kindapped, abused and killed - it's your right to die that way!" Ugh. Just thinking about it makes my blood boil.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

170,000 people are reported missing in the UK every year. 97% return within 2 weeks. Can you figure out why these policies exist? Police resources aren't infinite. @@KoffinKat

[@Maria-gb8bv]

1. Law enforcement can look for the person and locate them without notifying the family of their whereabouts. 2. The circumstances need to be taken into consideration: someone who was drunk, had an accident, wasn't where they said, stopped answering, etc. It's pretty clear that something bad had happened.

[@misakistalker]

but first verify and not tell the parents his whereabouts.

[@Gaius_Sinstone]

Police don’t lead abusers to their victims. That’s one of the few things they do right. Searching for a missing person immediately during the most crucial hours instead of being lazy wouldn’t change that.

[@syrthdr09sybr34]

From personal experience I think the first case definitely fell into a hole or the river. A while ago I almost fell into a river at night trying to relieve myself after pulling over on the side of the road, it was in wilderness area I know very well and my reaction was just to say "oh shit" and had I been holding a phone it definitely would've been dropped.

[@pax6833]

I doubt he fell into the river because the phone was still able to record.

[@darth3261]

Can't you hear the water moving in the dark?

[@syrthdr09sybr34]

@@pax6833 He fell into the river, not his phone.

[@syrthdr09sybr34]

@@darth3261 I know the area and I knew the river was there. That particular section of ground had been washed away, and I just got too close to the edge.

[@nicholasvaldez8322]

What about the fact that he thought he was actually 25 miles away from where he said he was?

[@bobbeezel2593]

The fact that Brandon’s body has never been found makes his case extremely bizarre. Also, the cell phone was never located either? Even if he had fallen and hit his head and ended up dying in a field somewhere, he would’ve been discovered by now. I mean, they find hikers bodies that were missing for years in the most obscure and rarely traveled areas. This is a mystery that requires “outside the box” thinking...perhaps way outside the box?

[@35mm21]

Well if he died in a cultivated field he'd just have been buried by equipment

[@bobbeezel2593]

Good point @@35mm21

[@blaafferd]

Don’t farmers make sure there’s no bird nests on their field before driving over it? Surely they would see a body

[@YOUR-LOCAL13]

Agree!

[@35mm21]

@@blaafferd no I don't think many farmers would even have any way of doing that

[@sierrawinter15]

Cindy's case reminds me of another case involving another Cindy, Cindy James. She'd been getting harassing calls and messages for about 7 years, she was stalked, her home broken into, her home set on fire, dead animals left on her porch, obscene letters left, and on a few occasions had been assaulted and tied up. Like I said this had happened over the course of years and there were those were disinclined to believe her because they thought Cindy was doing all this to herself. It's awful, all of it, I think you should cover it here if you haven't already. There's a lot of weird details and oddities with this one.

[@BareBandSubscription]

That case is so frightening because it’s so ambiguous. Regardless of what actually happened, it’s a plausible scenario that _could_ happen (and actually has in other cases), and it seems it’ll never be known what was really going on and who was responsible. It’s just scary.

[@damonroberts7372]

Whoever abducted Cindy must've been very close to her on a regular basis. Like, someone in her workplace. Of course the phone calls and graffiti sound like stalking. But her book being open to that violent scene (unless it's a complete coincidence / red herring)... seriously, what kind of an abductor is going to _hang around_ at the scene, skimming through though their victim's book looking for something like that? All the while, risking getting caught in the act, and for what... just to play stupid mind games? It sounds totally staged.

[@no_peace]

In other videos I've seen they said people thought she had done it. Which doesn't make sense either

[@damonroberts7372]

@@no_peace : Agreed, she doesn't really fit the "voluntary missing" pattern.

[@djc9755]

Unless a stalker saw the title of the book she was reading, got a copy to read for himself, then knew the passage existed and turned it to that spot when he was there.

[@posticusmaximus1739]

disappearing without a trace is one of my greatest fears

[@Fallen_Angel17]

If you who disappeared without trace why you need to fear??? But you should feel SAD if the missing persons from your relatives or others!!! Not fear of it.

[@foo219]

Depends on the reason for my disappearance in my case. Disappeared because I was kidnapped? Definitely do not want. Disappeared because I had an accident and died? It's sad, but it happens. I just hope it would be over quickly in that case.

[@chrisemerson7743]

@@Fallen_Angel17 so what your saying is that if you got lost without ever telling people where you were going in the first place it wouldn't bother you? Yea right! Knowing no one knows where you went or where they should start to look? That would scare the hell out of anyone!

[@gabecollins5585]

@@chrisemerson7743 You said it.

[@DDDDdJagr]

@@chrisemerson7743You’re. Yeah.

[@celestenova777]

I'm halfway through this video and have heard Brandon's case before but this is the best version by a long shot! Very sad case, thanks for your great videos.

[@davidpawson7393]

I fell into an unknown at the time cistern when I was taking a short path between roads after leaving a birthday party where I drank enough to not drive home when this bush jumped out causing me to zig when I was supposed to zag. I caught myself but was scraped up with my thigh swelling up enough to warrant a visit to the hospital. However I did get permission from the town to break the rest of the top and fill it in after they added it to their map of underground structures. If one of the kids that lived on that road had fallen in with the local wind muffling sound it could have easily been a tragedy. A year later the grandson of someone I worked for had drowned in a flooded sand pit within minutes of escaping through a dog door in the family home. These hazards are everywhere and I take them as seriously as fire safety.

[@dtann]

Youre lucky to be alive

[@foo219]

I'm glad you survived! And good thing you got the damn thing made safe too! Around where I live there are a lot of old military structures as well as ruins from the middle ages and older, so when you're out in the woods you can hardly throw a rock without hitting SOME kind of ruin, and some of those have basements and wells... Moral of the story, do not be like Brandon. Do not go blundering around in the dark while drunk.

[@chrisemerson7743]

I'm still trying to figure out what you mean about the "wind muffling "! Also did the persons house get sucked down a flooded sand pit cause how else would they be able to escape through the dog door? Really I thought at first you were making a joke!

[@talec_arashi]

@@chrisemerson7743 The wind can be loud enough to cover other noises, such as a person calling for help. Also, a child can easily fit through a doggy-door to get outside.

[@MrSiBrum]

@@chrisemerson7743the second part of your comment is so confusing. What made you even think that?

[@lordwilfried117]

I can't remember if you have ever told this case but it's about a woman that knocks at someone's house and is histerically saying that "they" are comming to get her, eventually they call the cops and when they arrive they take her with them but a few moments later more cops show up and they were the only ones that responded tot the call. The woman was never seen again as far as I remember and neither were the fake cops.

[@eadweard.]

Barely coherent waffle.

[@ScaryInteresting]

I don't think I've heard this story! Let me see what I can find!

[@thatpersonyoudidntknowexis149]

wtf that's scary!

[@john26razor340]

@@ScaryInteresting I recognize this. It happened in Ontario. It’s not waffle. It’s the case of Elnaz Hajtamiri.

[@Kaimine08]

More than likely, the first guy fell into some sort of body of water, most likely a river and most likely one of a fast moving current. The guy thought he knew where he was and so he assumed he was going in the right direction only to walk right into a river. Don't underestimate total darkness, you can walk right off a cliff without even realizing it. For the second case, definitely murdered. Definitely sophisticated enough to hide the body in a way no one will ever find her. With this many red flags, she should have quit and walked away from it all. Money doesn't mean shit if you're dead. As for how it happened or why? No idea.

[@condorsouthernlands4730]

Wouldn’t his phone die and go straight to voicemail if anyone called, rather than ringing over and over again?

[@eadweard.]

Self-important babble.

[@pax6833]

Brandon didn't fall into the river, or if he did, he got back out, because the river was well searched.

[@gamerdrive5565]

He may have stumbled across something he shouldn’t have. Could’ve been spotted, snuck up on and had a gun pulled on him at close range, phone ripped from his hand and thrown away right after he yelled oh shit. If the tone of his voice changed suddenly mid sentence before yelling oh shit, that indicates he hadn’t suddenly fell into a hole or a river, but had been aware something was off prior to acknowledging it with his last known words.

[@CoMorbiditty]

Given there were murders at the mall she worked in, why she would walk by herself in the early hours of the morning and be in an office on her own with killers around is beyond reason.

[@elitadream]

If you suddenly find yourself lost or unsure of where to go, STAY THE HELL WHERE YOU ARE. DO NOT GO ANY FURTHER. Especially if you have a means of contacting someone. The fact that Brandon was directly communicating with his parents but still chose to aimlessly wander across an unfamiliar terrain in the dead of night is maddening. Such an easily avoidable situation... Truly awful.

[@moth_mann]

Surprisingly I knew both of the cases in the video, but it's still nice to hear about them (especially narrated by you). Thanks for your hard work!

[@euphoriumx2652]

I'm wondering if the lights in the distance from the first story could have been greenhouse lights. I live in an area with lots of them, and its pretty baffling how much they light up the night sky.

[@kaitlin8833]

There is a rather large corn processing facility (corn plant) North of Marshall- ADM. They have huge lights on all night as the plant runs 24/7

[@michelleregalado5366]

For the algorithm! I've tried watching other cave videos, diving horror stories, missing people, etc, but yours are just the best and get me sooooo spooked!

[@donnavivian9431]

That's funny because the ONLY videos that I am not interested in on this channel is the caving and diving one, I skip them. 😂😂 😂

[@CuriousJack420]

@@donnavivian9431 I find them the most frightening to listen to. Instead of knowing you're going to die from external forces, you get to know due to your own ability to do the thing that you're going to die well before you do. Example would be you go too far or take a wrong turn diving and know your fate since you track your oxygen. Or squeezing into the wrong hole of a cave and know there's no way rescuers could get to you, and if they do it might be futile

[@AnovaLisaDragonfly]

I really like the Let’s Read channel also. They both have a very similar style of storytelling, and both have great voices for it. And Mr Ballen too.

[@youwish378]

Not me those types of videos make a person know automatically what their destined for lol I like a little suspense in the unknown

[@zovjraar]

I often put on older videos of yours to fall asleep to. You have a great voice for narration and the cases you cover are so interesting!

[@Bird1964]

Me too

[@Quklasa]

Same, I love stories before bed so I always rewatch old vids

[@another_day4783]

His voice is good, but they is no way these stories would help me sleep tho, they probably keep me up ha.

[@jasonreyna7615]

Same, or I'll put on a top5s video

[@NektarVision]

In Cindy's case, it seems like the maintenance guy should have been investigated further....

[@K1lostream]

I reckon God did it.

[@lPhoenixGloryl]

Yeah I agree. I don't think you can rule out that the graffiti was meant for the mall Cindy, just because the guy who made it has a girlfriend of that name. It's less suspicious but should still be treated seriously...

[@calebbrown2776]

​@@K1lostreamReal funny bruh...

[@K1lostream]

@@calebbrown2776 Some are always ready to credit God when something unusual happens in ways of which they approve, but think it’s being ‘real funny’ to reach the same conclusion when when the no-less-improbable happens in ways of which they disapprove.

[@no_peace]

​@@K1lostreamyour comments are not helpful or respectful and you're not changing anyone's mind

[@richardlbowles]

You're right. The last story did indeed make my skin crawl. In fact, it crawled from one side of the room to the other.

[@sstritmatter2158]

Whatever happened to Cindy likely started at her workplace. She was seen there as late as 9:45 am and things were normal. Later her items were found there, but not the way she would leave the office. That and her car was still there, she was either killed at work or persuaded to leave in a hurry to go with someone either deceiving her or by force like threatened with a weapon. I think it was an employee of the firm or someone who worked in her building she would trust.

[@tobetrayafriend]

Who else loves it when that beat drops?

[@sarakralj1350]

Me haha

[@kspen6110]

The suspense it gives.

[@donksta4197]

I do so very much and glad I’m not the only one.

[@ImmortalTreknique]

For the algorithm 👊

[@vyrdera]

For the Horde!

[@Lance_Lionroar]

For Sparta

[@edinsoncavanirespector]

Wolverines!!

[@jxn1056]

Thunder cats!!

[@chrislevack405]

For Aiur

[@ganjalfcreamcorn8438]

crazy how fast your channel is growing. must be exciting for you, congrats man! your videos now compared to your early ones are a night and day difference. good job.

[@ScaryInteresting]

It's still unbelievable to me. Thanks for following along!

[@inner__]

@@ScaryInterestingYou deserve it, your content is great! I look forward to it every sunday 😁

[@Loverofthyself]

​@@ScaryInterestingI wonder how many hours you put in production of 1 video

[@greenman6141]

Brandon's parents are really admirable people. They managed to take the worst thing that happened to them, and channeled their sorrow into doing something that will help others. I have been aghast at that police reaction of "someone is missing? Well, we'll wait until they're likely to have died from injuries/hypothermia/etc" Family members, friends...THEY know the people they are reporting missing, and whether this is badly out of the normal for that person. Whereas the police so often take the view "we know better". No. They don't. That's why when someone goes missing the police ASK those same people to tell them about the missing person. Imagine if the Coast Guard took that attitude? Or National Park search and rescue services.

[@Chewy_GarageBandDad]

Losing my son, in any way shape of fashion, would destroy me. I can't imagine what this mother and father have to go through.

[@nabelb1208]

No matter how terrified I am of this happening to me, I still can't help but watch these videos, and I can't stop!

[@lightbeing8174]

Just hope the devil doesn't take you too.

[@nabelb1208]

@@lightbeing8174 all you can do is ‘hope’ fate will play itself out however it’s meant too!

[@lightbeing8174]

@@nabelb1208 yes I look back in my life and I reflect on a very deep level and I cover everything that happen in all my 33 years of life on this earth yes i get the message of what you are saying I understand why things had to happen the way they turn out in my life.

[@Iatetoomuch]

100% Cindy was taken by the maintenance man. Someone saw her every day and loved taunting her. He probably kept her for years in that house and the caller was probably a relative who couldn’t bring herself to give the address; she just wanted it to end. Creepy - I bet G.W. Maintenance lived in a white house with a similar one next door, owned by his parents.

[@kianodoganofficial]

Came here to write this.

[@WhoamI-yz9nx]

And they still didn't check the house?? I was thinking cops did a shitty job with that tip, because I'm sure there was still a way to narrow it down to a few possible houses, though it would be harder than in our times. But the maintenance man's house actually fit the description and they didn't do anything about it?? Now I'm sure they just didn't give a fuck about finding Cindy

[@Whocares66672]

​@@WhoamI-yz9nxtheres nothing stating that the maintenance guy lived in a white house

[@WhoamI-yz9nx]

@@Whocares66672 oh well, there's nothing too see here then, officer I mean, guess we need the original commenter's source for this detail And like, even if the guy's house didn't fit the description, they still could've narrowed it down to a small pool of people whose did

[@Whocares66672]

@WhoamI-yz9nx the video talked about that though. At the time it wasnt like today where you could pull up home records on a computer. For all they know the call was fake anyway theres no evidence the call was real or correct information

[@helenetrstrup4817]

I have heard Brandon's story before. It's chilling. Personally I would never have left the road if I were to get stuck in a ditch somewhere and call my parents to ask them to find me. Heck I'd have probably stayed put in the car. It's easier to find a car stuck in a ditch by the side of a road than it is to find a person who's gotten lost in a wide open space.

[@writeralbertlanier3434]

As for Cindy, I suspect that she left of her own accord. She came from a very strict evangelical family that were apparently controlling and it strikes me that she clearly wanted to get out of both her family home and Ohio city. 1) Cindy worked at a law firm that could only be entered if one were let into the office- you had to call or knock to gain admittance . This makes it unlikely that someone could come in unless they were let in. 2) The book Cindy was reading was at a chapter where there was a struggle or abduction. This doesn't seem accidental to me but suggestive and deliberate. As if putting that idea into the minds of investigators and others. 3) Nothing in the office was out of place. No fuss, no muss. No indication of a crime. Considering what Cindy was reportedly going through, she probably would have put up a struggle if abducted in the office. The whole thing strikes me as a planned disappearance. The spray painted sign near the office might have been an unexpected boon to her and either been the incentive or was a beneficial add on to her plan.

[@raeoverhere923]

I agree; the abductor certainly wouldn't have taken the time to find the appropriate chapter (that they may or may not have known even existed) and set the book down to exactly that scene.

[@Peace-81]

So could it been her who called the cop to mislead them...

[@no_peace]

​@@raeoverhere923you can't make assumptions like that. They could have brought the book or started reading it because they saw her reading it. It's not valid. I don't think she ran, and people get in secure spaces all the time by seeming safe or by breaking in

[@no_peace]

Maybe it was her favorite part that she read over and over. It doesn't mean anything on its own. At all

[@writeralbertlanier3434]

@no_peace No one mentioned the book on its own. Just one detail out of many that doesn't add up in this case.

[@marlizmatwil]

Something that always pisses me off about missing people's cases is the police's nonchalantness. I've been watching a lot of See No Evil and it's so frustrating how police just don't really seem to care too much when a teen is missing. "They probably are a runaway" "They'll come back." "Wait 24 hours before filing a missing persons report." Like, wtf??? And god forbid you are a minority, cause they *will* take their time. Anyways, excellent vid👍

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

That's how police are. They don't care about actual crimes - too hard to investigate. They just care about arresting normal people.

[@necro4258]

They do this because the vast majority of time, ESPECIALLY with teens, they DO in fact come back after their overly concerned parents call them in as « missing ». If they dropped everything to investigate every single « missing » call immediately, they’d waste an immense amount of resources, some of which could’ve gone to pursuing actual missing persons.

[@scruffy-thejanitor]

The first 24 hours are the most important to finding a missing person. Every investigator knows this. Cops are lying when they claim the 24hr requirement BS. Heaven forbid they help the public.

[@lscherehazade_317]

​@@necro4258as if they'd actually use these resources for 'better things' lol

[@MGJDMNJ]

For the first case, best theory I heard was the oh shit was him falling in the water. He climbs out and dies during the night of hypothermia and the farmers field. The farmer who owns the farm is out the next day in his equipment and runs over the body which explains his scent of farm equipment. Panicking, farmer cleans equipment and body while refusing requests for permissions to search his property. In the intervening years, the scent fades making things more murky.

[@Sleepparalysisdemon2]

There was nothing suspicious about the farmer not letting then search. He didn't have to, and you can't imagine how incredibly awful it is to have random dogs running around and scaring your cattle. If you don't know anything about farming, this could be seen as plausible...but if you have any knowledge about farming, you would understand there isn't anything off about that fact.

[@MGJDMNJ]

@@Sleepparalysisdemon2 I understand that completely. I was merely passing on the best theory I had heard on the prosecutors podcast.I fully believe in private property rights so it seems a bit reactive to try and insult me for passing on a theory which I didn’t come up with. It is/was a plausible theory and that’s why I put it out there. A similar case would be Brandon Lawson who famously disappeared in Texas. He was recently found when after years of asking, they got permission to search a farmers private land.

[@bunkle932]

Another theory, that to me is even more convincing given how common of an accident it is, is that he could've fallen into an inactive or old, unknown cistern. This happens incredibly often, and is hugely exacerbated with alcohol. So many cases of inebriated people falling in at night because of poor visibility. Combined with the fact that when property changes hands or the property lines change, cisterns from all sorts of time periods are easily forgotten about, laying in the earth as a hazardous water/air pocket that could be entirely unknown. A farmer could've tried to cover it up if they found him on their property, but that of course is impossible to say. It could just as easily be that he is still sitting in a cistern incredibly close to where they were looking, unbeknownst to any other living soul.

[@dannahbanana11235]

I have never in my life heard someone describe nail polish remover described as smelling sweet. It doesn't smell sweet at all. It smells more like rubbing alcohol.

[@melissaharris3389]

Some brands add perfume to their nail polish remover to cover up the chemical scent. Floral or strawberry are the most common in my experience; and yes, they smell sweet with with a side of chemicals.🤮

[@bellaheywyd]

please never stop posting, ik a lot of KZbinrs rely on Likes and Views. But with you, your videos are very educational and almost everyday i look to see if you have posted. Keep up the great work

[@MadelineHolmes-y1k]

Foul play seems the most likely explanation to me in Brandon's case. People get up to shady stuff in rural areas *all* the time, and some landowners have a shoot-first policy when it comes to trespassers. No sounds of a struggle doesn't mean much, it's possible Brandon was trying to be quiet after noticing other people in the field with him. "Shoot, shovel, and shut up" is a phrase I've heard used to describe how certain landowners deal with protected predators like wolves and panthers, it's not difficult to apply the same standards to some teenager they don't know or care about. Urban America gets a bad rap for being unsafe but the no-witnesses, middle-of-nowhere atmosphere of rural America is WAY scarier.

[@no_peace]

Maybe. Or he got hurt and passed away and someone hid his body because of the factors related to farming, or not wanting to be blamed, or not wanting cops to notice other law breaking

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Foul play is almost never the most likely explanation.

[@Maddie2000-zf5jz]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 Not as often as people say it is but someone saying "OH SHIT!" and then vanishing without a trace in a relatively small area is absolutely suspicious. Falling into a cistern or well as some have suggested it certainly plausible, but absent that it feels like the only way the body wouldn't be found is if someone else actively concealed it.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

What are the odds someone is on that random stretch of road in the middle of the night, in complete darkness and decided to kill a random person? The most likely and banal explanation is usually the correct one. People have this warped by watching murder and crime documentaries all the time. @@Maddie2000-zf5jz

[@luka188]

The most suspicious thing is that the dogs found Brandon's scent on the farming equipment. I suspect he went quiet after his exclamation because he saw or heard people sneaking up to him, stayed quiet in hopes he wouldn't be found, didn't say anything to the phone to stay quiet and probably turned the sound of too. His parents then dropped the call a few minutes later, and after that is when he was discovered and made to take his forever nap, so no gunshots were heard because they happened some undetermined amount of time after the call was dropped.

[@SevenGC89]

The most frustrating missing person cases to me are the ones where Teenagers or Young adults go missing while either on the phone or just after a phone call with their parents where the calls either ends abruptly like in the case of Brandon, or if the parents just talked to them a day or so before and the teen was supposed to be home or be somewhere but never showed up and especially when they are the type of person that wouldn't just run away but when police are involved they tell the parents "Your child prob just ran away and will prob turn up, every parent thinks their kid wouldn't do that but you would be surprised" I know laws have somewhat changed the past few years in some states or places but in cases where you have a kid walking home while on the phone with his parents and than goes "Oh shit" and the call ends.. obv something happened.. he didn't run away, and I'm not just talking about Brandon's case I've read sooo many that are very similar to that, you would think the police would rather have a situation where they made a big deal and did a search only to find out the kid did run away by his own choice over a situation where they didn't make a big deal and the kid turns up dead.. I don't mean to keep using the word kid because this works for most missing person cases where someone goes missing during a phone call or shortly after talking to a person.

[@heidetermeg427]

Was waiting for this. You always upload during Premier League games on sundays - and I always get to see your videos during half time. Great timing, as always 😁 Now I just gotta wait until Tragedy Tales uploads another one 😂

[@apathyisdeath2977]

Ooh which one were you watching when this went up? 😁

[@immatomato3790]

after hearing so many stories you start to get numb to these, but the parents still leaving the porch light on hurts. i hope they get to search the farm and hopefully find his body there so they can bury him and at least have a place to talk to him

[@johnthemachine]

With Brandon, the parents needed to drive to the spot his car was found, at night, look for the nearest town/city lights, come back during the day and walk from the place his car was found straight to the place where you can see city lights at night. The guy clearly walked in that direction. I'd bet good money if you do that walk at night in the dark you fall into the river and his parents are just in denial and want to think he's alive somewhere.

[@viggianoj]

No lights were in the area of his car though. That's what makes it so strange when he said he was walking to lights off in the distance on the other side of the field.

[@Raithization]

Yeah, people have the right to go missing if they want to, I can think of plenty of reasons why an adult might want to cut off contact with family, but it was very obvious in Brandon's circumstances that he wasn't going missing of his own will. Like, I don't think they needed to change the law, they needed to have those police investigated and retrained. I don't understand how they came to the initial conclusion that he went missing on his own considering the circumstances.

[@derkeheath5172]

A co-worker of mine quit his job and decided to hitch-hike to California. He's been missing for 7 years. The police refused to ever look for him because he made a break from his previous life by quitting his job and selling everything he couldn't carry, but he LOVED his family more than anything in the world. That dude 100% got murdered.

[@Berrystrongsauce]

The Braden case happened right next to me, I was told in a bar before that this kid was a drug dealer and either was steeling contraband or steeling money and was ultimately taken out. The reason this sticks with me is because the kid telling me was into the drug scene in the past, and this scenario hasn’t been said on any video. Someone getting lost around here I can’t really see. Foul play has to be involved.

[@BiggieTrismegistus]

I've never been convinced by that explanation because it doesn't make sense to me. Was the person who took him out hiding in a field hoping he would wander by?

[@Berrystrongsauce]

@@BiggieTrismegistus idk how you don’t assume he was followed, the phone call is really weird, guy is vague. If I was into some illegal activities I wouldn’t talk to my parents about it, I know others in that line of work and they keep family out of their business. Sort of live a double life.

[@stefan.5987]

Cindy's case is so debatable, she didn't disappear for a reason. That's for sure. May them souls R.I.P.

[@sarakralj1350]

First story is chill inducing

[@WhoamI-yz9nx]

I feel like the cops that investigated Cindy's disappearance did a shit job following up on the whispering woman's tip. They didn't have online databases where they could easily look up houses ownership, but I'm pretty sure it was still entirely possible to narrow matching houses down to a few by cross-referencing various sources of information, it would just take a lot of work but like... you're investigators guys

[@johnwiks2597]

An old bit of wisdom taught by thousands of hours of true crime and accidental deaths: Never leave your vehicle, except if you absolutely have to or if you're in a sus area, hide yourself nearby within eyesight of the car. Also unless you have a torch, don't go walking at night in field or forest. I fear Cindy's fate was sealed by a client of the law firm she worked for...she probably knew them well too. She should've listened to her dream and quit.

[@elevatorface]

It's insane the number of dangerous activities that were going on in Cindy's environment during that period. It's not surprising something happened to her just from the statistical likelihood alone. I've had stalkers and been in incredibly stressful environments for prolonged periods. But idk how Cindy managed to push herself to get to work for so long. With a conservative family like hers, even if it was hard to stay home, I would've quit work much earlier and taken the time to prepare for college if the area was so crime ridden. But then again, who knows if that would've actually helped keep her safe or not. I feel bad that so many people just eerily vanish and their loved ones will never know what happened. Thank you for another interesting video. I've been enjoying your podcast as well!

[@Blox117]

fun fact: they released one of the africans that graped and game overed several girls

[@wuzziemaster]

@@Blox117 You're pretty bad at trolling. So just stop.

[@no_peace]

Quitting a job has never prevented anything like this

[@Snapper314]

Truly haunting stories! While this might not have been an option in 2008, these days a person can SEND their LOCATION to another person while they are talking to them. Applications like Google Maps and others can send your location to a contact, or any phone number you want. I STRONGLY advise ALL PARENTS to talk about this with their children, and ensure they know how to do this!

[@analyticalhabitrails9857]

Yup, my nrighbors downloaded an app that shows exactly where they're childrens at all times. Its pretty wild.

[@blaafferd]

While that’s reassuring to the parents, kids deserve some privacy and freedom imo

[@dangannon9970]

Love the podcast! I listen to it while foraging in the woods and the missing person videos is why I subscribe to the channel. Keep up the great videos!

[@elizabethramsay3295]

Haha that would make me so paranoid

[@lkpdx]

So many coincidental circumstances for Cindy's case. 😳

[@rmbarnes672]

Stay in touch with your people. 2 days is long enough.

[@Blox117]

avoid africans

[@diseasedworm9209]

@@Blox117 excuse me?

[@John-B-Goodenough]

@@diseasedworm9209did he stutter?

[@Blox117]

@@diseasedworm9209 one of those two africans shown in the video was recently let out of prison. notice that all the victims were of a light complexion. He literally graped and ended the life of a 12 year old girl and is allowed to go free.

[@devin8967]

i really really like the way you tell your stories. always graciously and with respect for the victims, but you still tell all the details and elegantly weave it into an interesting story. i also like that you let us go into the story blind, very interesting stuff :)

[@ghostkid2131]

I also adore that about this channel glad I am not the only one, pepole forget these cases involve real pepole sometimes

[@jacob4tee]

Honestly the best channel on youtube

[@alphaintuition1]

🍎Is it possible that Brandon in the first story had made an attempt to cross a river to achieve his destination quicker, and lost his footing/slipped/stepped in a drop-off, thus losing his phone which might be buried in the riverbed by now, and he succumbed to hypothermia after giving up looking for his phone to continue walking through the cold night? If that's the case...then maybe large farming equipment distorted his remains further.

[@SILSAL67]

​​@@alphaintuition1the only problem with your theory is that his phone worked for several hours (all calls went to VM) after his disappearance. The police called his phone a multitude of times, and even used it to triangulate the signal. I don't think that would have been possible if he had fallen into the water/riverbed with the cell phone.

[@chrisemerson7743]

@@alphaintuition1I don't think he would cross a river if it was even it was a little cold!

[@jamesdreads7828]

well timed, as ever! love your stuff man, thanks a lot.

[@MultiMcKane]

Brandon's critical error was not heading towards the interstate junction immediately after crashing the vehicle. This would have been the most logical place to wait as it is a highly popular and known route with good visibility. An unfortunate end to a series of youthful mistakes resulted in a very unlucky disappearance.

[@essaboselin5252]

Well, considering he was completely wrong about where he was and had driven off the road, I'd say having a drunk teen walking around an interstate exchange would be very dangerous. He should have stayed with the car.

[@catcactus1234]

The critical error was the fact that he left his car at all. Whenever you’re stranded or lost, you should always stay in a safe location if possible instead of traveling. The likelihood of getting lost, injured, or attacked is way higher when you leave the location you’re stranded in. Especially at night.

[@TotemoGaijin]

@@catcactus1234 Its unfortunate that this happened a few years too early for him to just pull up GPS to see where he actually was.

[@melissaharris3389]

​​​@@catcactus1234You're right. His car was found off a side road. He should have stayed put until his parents found him or dawn. Even following the road would have been safer then wandering into a field at night. He likey fell into a cistern in the dark especially since he apparently told his parents he'd climbed over a few fences.

[@UnboundClown]

It’s going to be so ironic if someone goes missing, and when the authorities try to look at their last online location, they’re like “Crap, they used PIAVPN.”

[@connarish]

Just found your channel and wanted to say I have binged every ep. Great voice, great direct no fluff writing and i actually love your background audio. 10/10 subbed

[@canuckfixit7722]

Many have suggested that Brandon fell then was trapped. My guess is that he was walking through one of those fields at night then fell into an abandoned well, got knocked unconscious and drowned. Abandoned wells in fields and vacant lots exist everywhere, are very well camouflaged, and present a significant safety hazard. Unfortunately, they are not regulated by any municipality so will remain a hazrad until they either collapse in or get filled in when the lands gets redeveloped. In terms of liability for the landowner of that open hole, there is no obligation to protect the hole if it is more than a set minimum distance from a public thoroughfare or path, especially if there is a fence in the way. Civil litigation can still happen though. Some have speculated that the hole containing Brandon's body was found by the landowner and with the misunderstanding that they could be liable, would have duly filled it in and effectively burying Brandon's body forever, never to be found. For sure, one of the landowners out there knows something that could solve the case but isn't willing to come forth.

[@FatherPun]

I've been here since around 80k subs, so proud of your growth, Sean! I'm sure it's surreal to you! Just keep up the good work 👍

[@bromisovalum8417]

The nailpolish like solvent smell in the Cindy case might have been a halothane-type inhalation anaesthetic with fast onset like sevoflurane or desflurane. A drenched cloth forced upon her face would render her unconscious pretty quickly.

[@blurryperson2685]

Im almost positive Brandon fell into an unmarked cistern or well. I remember reading a thread on reddit where at least someone that alleged to be a fire fighter or something that volunteered did some research and theres a lot of these in rural areas that have been forgotten about

[@Professional-fh1ow]

It sounds like brandon was highly intoxicated which also explains the accident and not knowing his whereabouts but you'd wonder why he wouldn't sound intoxicated.

[@mauriciogoncalves3608]

I found your channel 2 days ago and I m addicted to it. Thanks for your work

[@ChelleBee166]

I live a few miles from where Brandon Swanson disappeared and his dad was actually my landlord once upon a time. It's all farmland and the yellow medicine river along there is tiny, so I highly doubt he fell in the river and drowned. I think the lights he was seeing where from Minneota, it's actually a bigger town than Lynd and he was right by it. My guess is that he fell somewhere in a field (either in something like a well or got hurt) fell asleep or passed out and was then plowed under by a tractor. Especially since they aren't allowed to search the farm properties, it makes the most sense.

[@CuriousJack420]

Would you know anything more about the farmers in the area? What were they like?

[@writeralbertlanier3434]

In Brandon's case, I tend to believe this was possible foul play. According to reported details, Brandon was on the phone, stopped talking suddenly and then started swearing. That would indicate he saw something that startled him. It could be a person or possibly an animal who attacked him. I would put my money on person though.

[@niallmackenzie99]

Brandon obviously had more drinks that we are led to believe hence the car crash and forgetting his glasses, trust me when your on the phone to your parents you put on an amazing act to seem more sober, the "oh shit" on the last phone call would have been him either falling into the river or one of the farmer's cisterns or water tanks.

[@leo-mf22]

Agreed, he'd probably still be here if he had called for a ride, and HAD NOT DROVE DRUNK

[@damonroberts7372]

There's also the possibility that was concussed by the accident and was disoriented. I know of a couple of allegedly "mysterious" cases like that, one where a woman crashed her car in a field, wandered off and died of hypothermia... another one about a year and half ago in Antioch, IL, where a guy wandered away after he crashed his vehicle and drowned in the Des Plaines River (he was missing for almost month before they found the body).

[@SaraWalski]

I lived in the area where he disappeared for more than ten years, and while I'm not going to say that he definitely wasn't drunk, I will say that you absolutely don't have to be drunk to get lost on the side roads around Marshall MN. The terrain is incredibly flat, and after dark, most of those roads look identical

[@nettewilson5926]

I feel like Cindy had a premonition. It’s sad she didn’t just leave the mall after that dream. It’s also even worse that the phone caller chose not to help her.

[@spacejasontodd]

I finally found the time to listen to your new Podcast and my man!!! It's absolutely stellar, can't wait for more episodes to drop. Good luck with everything!!!

[@FenixMcC]

always look forward to these vids! keep it up 👍

[@michaela6147]

It never ceases to amaze me how people get themselves in these situations.

[@loditx7706]

I have heard the first story before. In my opinion with everything that had gone on I don’t believe she would have opened the door for anyone she didn’t know. Therefore there are 3 options. 1. She opened the door for someone she did know, know as in acquainted with, but not if what the person was like and that person forced her to go with him. 2. The person had a key. Let himself in and forced her to go with him. 3. The person was already in the office and hidden away when she arrived. He then forced her to go with him. I am so sorry for this girl and her family. 😢 I do not think Cindy is alive. One thing you do not mention, was there another entry/exit for the office? That she could have been taken through? Lots of mall spaces have doors opening to an alley or parking lot for deliveries. It’s hard to believe she was forced to exit through the mall under duress and no one noticed. Why didn’t she push the alarm for the people next door? Did some one she knew get close enough to render her unconscious before she knew to press e alarm? I don’t think her bosses acted well to take the implied threats seriously and provide a more safe environment for her. I wonder why not.

[@Brovillion559]

If someone is missing on farm land it shouldn’t matter what’s going on, a search is going to take place no matter what. That young man is out there in one of those fields.

[@stereorebel6012]

It’s always a great day whenever you upload ! Time to get cozy n spooky

[@sagebielenberg8354]

Love Sundays for your new videos! Thanks. Great content as alwats

[@Albinojackrussel]

Its wild to me that so many farmers are objecting to a man hunt. Here in the uk if someone goes missing a man hunt is happening and I've never heard of an issue.

[@Eliblue90]

Same in Spain, it seems very strange to me.

[@stevew4079]

Same in Australia. It’s the usual funny ideas of Americans. ‘Rights’ before logic. Of course a person with mental health issues should be able to own an arsenal.

[@naty8646]

The problem with the theory of Brandon falling or being attack is that his family would have heard more than just an "AH SHIT", the sound of water if near the river, the sound of him falling on the cistern or another hole, or the sound of him being attacked or shot

[@chendaforest]

Exactly, he must have been startled by something, most likely a person or persons unknown.

[@catsandstuff29]

I don't really understand what a right to be missing means. He phoned his parents asking for help, so he clearly wasnt planning on vanishing....

[@malarky27]

I will say, as someone who lives in rural Minnesota, when I’m in the country I can’t tell the light difference between towns with 20,000 people versus 1000 or even 100 depending on how far they are

[@unterdessen8822]

I've pointed this out in more detail in the comments of a different video, that mentioned Brandon's case: He most likely ran into a cow. Hints: - He was trespassing on farmland at night in early summer. That's the time when cows can be left outside at night, and when they typically have small calves with them. We know that there are dairy farms in the area. Brandon either climbed through some fences and unknowingly walked around in a cattle pasture, or he encountered an escaped cow (most likely with a calf) - Cows are incredibly dangerous when they are protecting a young calf, and the absolute majority of people, who have been killed by cows triggered an attack by getting too close to the baby. A stranger walkkng towards them at night in their home pasture would certainly qualify as a situation, that a mother cow would deem dangerous to her calf - Brandon's parents heard him say "Oh $hit!" on the phone, then running and breathing heavily immediately before he dropped the phone. It's unclear whether the running and breathing sounds were made by him, but apparently he saw something, that prompted him to turn around and run. This wouldn't have been the case if he had been stalked by a wolf or coyote, because they would have snuck up on him in the dark. Upon seeing one of them, he would have known that running would trigger their instincts. If there had been a person in front of him, he may have tried to talk to them instead of running, even if they were armed (and there was no gunshot). Running makes sense when you realise, that you have walked straight up to a cow (or bison). Most people think cows are too slow to catch you. An attacking cow would also be silent; and I'm pretty sure Brandon would say "Oh $hit!" because he was surprised by her size and how close it already was. Dairy cattle are enormous. - Chased by an enraged mother cow in the dark in an unknown area Brandon had 3 options: Get run over and trampled, fall into an open cistern and die, or reach the road and get hit by a vehicle. The vehicle theory is not very likely - the driver would most likely have reported it. But if Brandon got killed by the cow or fell into a cistern, it's possible that the farmer who owned the land covered it up to protect his livestock and himself. We already know, that the local farmers were less than thrilled to work with the police. They're usually protective of their property, and a farmer would have understood, that the cow chased Brandon because she saw him as a threat to her calf.

[@MrTigerthegamer]

Your points make sense. wouldn't put it past it but that “oh shit” changes everything and I mean everything. What made him say oh shit? Where's his body? Where's his phone wouldn't the dogs find it by scent? Just a creepy and strange story

[@katie3657]

This makes so much sense!

[@iHaveTheDocuments]

That's a big jump to say a farmer covered up the death of this kid.

[@unterdessen8822]

@@iHaveTheDocuments The boy was probably dead when he found him. And for all we know there could have been clear evidence that he was trampled or at least injured by an enraged mother cow. Lung perforared by a horn, then fell into a cistern and drowned quickly, for example. From a farmer's point of view this meant, that a stupid and possibly drunk kid trespassed on his land and accidentally got himself killed. There was no way to bring him back to life. Why call the police, start an investigation and - worst case scenario - have the poor cow put down? She was just protecting her baby and wouldn't have been a danger to anyone, if that intruder hadn't bumped into her at night. I'm a country girl, I know how farmers think. Every self-respecting cattle owner would have taken his livestock's side in this. I'm not saying this was the right thing to do, but I get why the farmer may have thought, that it was pointless to report it, because that would only result in uniforms swarming his property and getting himself and poor traumatised Elsie in trouble. (I did know someone who had a cow named Elsie once)

[@unterdessen8822]

@@MrTigerthegamer If we're dealing with a cover-up, it would make sense for the person to look for and destroy all evidence, that could point to the farm. Take the battery out of the phone, crush both, bury the remains or dump them on a trip to Vegas, if possible. You wouldn't want to be caught with a dead boy's phone.

[@Vasilias102]

I love how the comments are just angry at the police/inspectors/law people rather than at Sean - right attitude, compared to other channels

[@0minous187]

1:38 to start the story and skip the forced ad

[@Maggerama]

Once again, pleasantly upsetting stuff! I love your channel for the quality alone.

[@johnshields6852]

He said, " oh shit ", someone one or more likely more than one person took him for a ride. Whoever did it will never speak of it, the 2 or 3 guys who did this will keep silent about what they did to that poor kid. It's no mystery to me, they probably panicked, thinking they'd be charged with kidnapping, so they made him disappear for good. 🙏

[@kats9755]

In light of Brandon's story, I really think everyone should give location access to at least one trusted person in case of emergencies like this. I cant imagine how all this felt to his parents.

[@TheMessengerB]

As always, happy to see an upload by you! You have a great voice and me and my wife listen to your stories a lot! Keep up the good work! We have been here since before you hit 50K! Glad to see you almost at 1 million!! HUGE W!

[@jackiedaytona9029]

"One of Cindy's trashy romance novels" Ouch haha

[@AmberMoonLight22]

Haha yeah, what was up with that?? Judgie much? 😂

[@RochellB46]

Brandon’s story has haunted me for years hopefully the family gets some kind of closure ❤

[@GalacticBadger]

Here we go!!

[@doomdude69]

Brandon’s story is so haunting from his parent’s perspective. Unfortunately, it seems like he was probably much more drunk than his parents or he realized, given that he ran off the road and also was mistaken about his location.

[@dfuher968]

The smell of something sweet in the office, that the lawyers thought might be nailpolish? Is any1 else thinking chloroform?

[@JustjenninAL]

This has Literally become my favorite yt channel!! Been here since the beginning❤thanks for another great episode!

[@leonardovolskow6177]

Sometimes even the scariest stories can be educational in the core of it, but some stories just exploit human suffering. People always appreciate a creepy story if it is told good. Parents do the same thing, in order to ensure their kids safety. I think that's okay within a human society.