The Danger of KJV Only

[@timwildsmith]

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[@jeffcarlson3269]

@timwildsmith I have to say Tim... You have REALLY outdone yourself on THIS video... I usually enjoy all of your videos... anyway... but THIS video.. is the "Cat's Meow".. You nailed it..!.. you hit the nail on the head!... knocked the ball out of the park..! this video.. is SO accurate.. and concise.. it really tells it like it is... and you do it from such a spirit of gentleness and love.. Amen.. I appreciate you brother... I am going to try to pass on this link to many others who need to watch this.... thanks again...

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@timwildsmith Hey... one other thing... in regards to Peter Ruckman... I agree with you... but.. Ruckman IS an enjoyable read.. if one just draws the facts from his texts... and excuse some of his bias comments... sometimes I enjoy reading what he has to say... just to unwind. .because he is so far out in the field sometimes... he can really make me chuckle...I do Not agree with many of his views.. but he has a unique way of making his points... I imagine though... Ruckman as well ....has often done more harm than good.. in certain aspects... due to his crassness..

[@davidbush6583]

Would using the 1611 KJV be useful if those preferring that particular edition, actually spoke or wrote comments to each other or to anyone else in 1611 English?

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@@davidbush6583 Not really sure if this is really a question...?.. I would use the 1611 KJV if I didn't struggle.. reading the "s" looking like an "f".. and the "u".. looking like a "v"...and so forth.. also in the 1611 a lot of the words end in "e".. that we no longer spell that way.. such as "compasse" for "compass".. etc..... I'm ok.. using my Dake's KJV.. from the 1769.. updated vocabulary...

[@davidbush6583]

@@jeffcarlson3269 Promoting Elizabethan English for the Scriptures (adherents usually specify the 1611 KJV ) is one thing but actually using it, is another. When my brother attended one of Shakespeare's plays at Auburn U., he said the actor's gestures and emphasis on phrases helped him to understand that form of English for the first time ever. ¿So, wouldn't it be beneficial and practicable to see such language put to use, at least in conversational comments, in order to bring it to life for the rest of us?

[@skay624]

When I worked in the prison I saw so many new believers who did not read well struggle so hard to understand the Kjv and I hurt for them. I brought in other translations and it helped.

[@chile727]

As a missionary I worked In the Spanish language. A visitor insisted I had to use KJV only. I explained my hearers did not understand English. No amount of explanation would convince this man. We finally had to leave the conversation alone. Wild stuff.

[@Will_SmithJr]

I was told one time that a person couldn't be saved without the kjv. That's super irrational thinking. This same person also referred my NASB as a comic book.

[@---zc4qt]

@@Will_SmithJr That would imply that all the Bibles and preaching in England in the 1500s was all for nothing.

[@---zc4qt]

You should have asked him: "Did Jesus want children to "suffer"?"!!!!!! ( Matt. 19:14)

[@kundetjenesten]

I use the KJV, I love it to bits and would not change even under gunpoint. That said, in my language, we do not have a corresponding version, the closest thing we could get is a translated NKJV. That is my primary issue with KJV onlyism: it is not available in all languages. Fortunately, at least there usually is some form of scripture based on the majority texts.

[@MichaelAChristian1]

​@@---zc4qtDo you know what that means? Get a King James Bible.

[@windpeoples]

I am glad you spoke about this topic in this manner. God bless!

[@karensimon876]

The amount of false prophets out there spewing hate, fear and absolutism is stunning. Those folks are using Christ for power and profit.

[@timwildsmith]

That hate is so awful.

[@sheriwalker-to1ws]

Yeah I'm starting to think Tim Wildsmith is one.

[@TheKahu78]

​@@sheriwalker-to1ws 😂

[@toranshaw4029]

@@timwildsmith one of the main reasons why I prefer to call myself a Jesusian, rather than a Christian.

[@timwildsmith]

Why is that, Sheri?

[@jonpaulgulledge598]

Well done, Tim. You are consistently balanced in your approach. We need more of your kind of content on the internet.

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks!

[@dougbaker2755]

Thank you, Pastor Tim, for a very moderate tone in your discussion of this topic. It's frequently not easy to be so moderate in the face of ignorance about how the Bible is translated.

[@timwildsmith]

You're welcome, Doug.

[@1988casco]

I gotta give this video a hearty IFB "HAYMAN". The best bible translation is the one that you read every day and let God speak to you through it.

[@4jgarner]

For the most part I would give a hearty HAYMAN! to you for that as well brother. With the exception of things like the NWT, TPT, etc.

[@4jgarner]

@@GaryG-w3b holy cow. With the stuff that they did to God's Word and THAT'S what you've got to say about that. That's so sad it's not even funny.

[@freddieknapp9337]

I was a Ruckmanite and KJV Only for 2 decades. The kindness of the brethren, especially Tim Berg and Mark Ward helped me see my way clear of it. I still prefer the KJV but do not hold to an extremist position any longer.

[@NOXStellans]

Enjoy the KJV - My concern with KJV-onlyism is how is a stumbling block for new Christians or young Christians. This is something long-time Christians cannot seem to understand. I have a few kids in my youth class who come from KJV-only leaning families. Fortunately, they seem to have found joy when reading the NKJV.

[@ozrithclay6921]

@childofthelight888 The KJ*V* didn't die for our sins and isn't required to follow our LORD and savior Jesus.

[@childofthelight888]

@@ozrithclay6921 So Jesus Christ is perfect, yet God's word is somehow not perfect. You have created a Jesus of your own imagination. I used to be involved in false religion, so I know what it is like to be lost, and I know what it is like to be saved. The man who runs this channel is lost; they are all lost. They do not know God's voice; they do not know and are not known of Our Lord Jesus Christ. They have created a false Jesus of their own imagination. The real Christians are the false Christians in their eyes. They are lost

[@childofthelight888]

@@ozrithclay6921 It is written: 2 Timothy 3:1-7 (King James Bible) 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[@Jordan-4-Him-NM]

@@childofthelight888 Extreme- hateful- just what is being discussed. Prayerful that the truth be revealed in the hearts of His creation.

[@sillyrabbi64]

Thanks for the shout-out for Dr. Ward. He's a first-rate scholar as well as one of the most patient, kind advocates against extremism around translations out there. The work that he and you and others like you do will be how we defeat the legalism of the extremist KJVO folks. Thanks for having the courage to take this on.

[@chrisjohnson9542]

He's a true blessing to the church. I admire his patience and love so much. I pray that I can be more like him in that way as much as he is Christ like.

[@jimyoung9262]

+1 for Dr. Mark Ward. That man is legit.

[@igregmart]

Well I did listened to a number of Wards vids and his mostly poor evidence and he just reaffirms my trust in the KJV and lack of trust in the newer English Bibles.

[@ozrithclay6921]

@@igregmart Can you name some examples of poor evidence he's used?

[@biblehighlighter]

Respectfully, there are a lot of things Mark Ward gets wrong. I would encourage folks here who are truth seekers to check out Nick Sayers critique on Mark Ward. Nick goes long in his presentations, but if you are for the truth, and are passionate about the Bible, this should not be a problem for you.

[@charlesleibyjr1951]

Thank you Tim! Great Video! I go back and forth between KJV and ESV! Love Both. 🦬🌲🌲🌲🦬

[@danniemann972]

When I was in my 20s I went to a KJV only church. I honestly found myself missing A LOT when I would try to read the Bible through. I ended up secretly reading the NKJV to understand large portions so I could talk about them in Bible study. I later moved on to churches who were more open to modern evangelical translations and I was pleasantly surprised to learn that most of the Bible studies were spent actually discussing biblical concepts and life application. At my KJV only church, 90% of every Bible study was always devoted to just what the individual words and phrases meant.

[@MatthewC1128]

Sounds like you need to improve your vocabulary. I can understand the Bible just fine.

[@danniemann972]

@@MatthewC1128 That’s a great example, brother, thank you! You obviously go to a KJV only church. Now, had you spent more of your Bible study time learning the lessons of scripture and less time merely interpreting the archaic words and phrases- it’s VERY unlikely that you would be here in the comments of a You Tube video, putting down another Christian for his honest experience.

[@MatthewC1128]

@@danniemann972 God bless, brother!

[@johnwyatt2846]

Well done Tim. A fresh perspective on an unfortunate issue.

[@donnawildsmith2232]

The MOST important thing is getting us all to read & apply God’s Word more! This gives God the ultimate glory! Good job, Tim! ❤

[@ozzmangaming2023]

@@donnawildsmith2232 absolutely!

[@4jgarner]

I gotta say though something, and I'm not sure what it is, tells me you might be a little biased here Donna Wildsmith... Lol

[@JakeStuddard-dt1ql]

@4jgarner which one is God's Word? I don't see an s on God's Word. So he can only have one because you said God's Word. So you just stated that he only has one. If God has more than one Word you would have put an s on the Word. You didn't. Galatians 3:16 (KJV) Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ. God teaches us that when you put an s on a word there's more than one. God's Word is the king James version. Forget king, forget James, forget version. Listen to what God teaches. God only has one Word, the king James version. If he teaches us to pay attention to evey single letter. That's got to be a pretty serious WORD.. Stay away from every other books. They teach false doctrines.

[@4jgarner]

@@JakeStuddard-dt1ql they teach the same doctrine because they are the same Bible. The NIV, ESV and the KJV are all God's Word. Not words. Because they are the same God's Word, the same Bible. But I noticed you talked about how there's only one and then with absolutely no reasoning you immediately concluded that it's the KJV. That's fallacious.

[@JakeStuddard-dt1ql]

@4jgarner if they are the same. Why are there so many? If they are the same? If the niv and the esv and whatever other books claims that they are the Word of God. Then why do we have them if they're the same as the king James version Bible. Cuz there easier to read? But they are the same right. If they are the same. There would be no reason for the niv ,esv, or nkjv. If they were the same. You would be content, satisfied with God's Word, the king James version Bible.

[@danielmoore8538]

I like what Adrian Roger's said about modern translations.If the translation says Jesus Christ is God in the flesh and died to save a lost and dying world it's not worth arguing about.He preached from the KJV.

[@jeffcarlson3269]

@danielmoore8538 I used to listen to Adrian Roger's on the way home from work... now I'm retired so I don't catch him very often...

[@danielmoore8538]

@@jeffcarlson3269 that's when I listen to him driving home from work occasionally

[@adorp]

Doea he think Jesus be made of plastic or something? He is the type of crazy that thinks everyone in the past used to believe in flat Earth.

[@amero482]

Appreciate your gentle but firm approach. Would love a video about the history behind the KJV translation and the way it has influenced the English language. Thankfully we have many Translation Tuesdays to come.

[@PeterPeach21]

Check out Mark Ward, he has lots of very helpful videos on this topic!

[@tereleegray3443]

I appreciate your calm, reasonable treatment of this KJVO issue. It is such a contrast to the vitriol spewed by the KJVO. I'm enjoying translation Tuesday immensely. Anxiously awaiting the release of your book!

[@timwildsmith]

Thank you!

[@TedMattos]

If the King James Version was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me! (I jest, of course.). :)

[@Gayle8675309]

😆🤣

[@ThePaPappy]

😊

[@TexasRed649]

I thought the Apostle Paul wrote the King James Bible.

[@TedMattos]

@@TexasRed649 He did. And that's the version that Jesus used.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

Senator Jessie Helms was once asked why he opposed a bill to provide some education in Spanish in some schools. He said, “If English was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me.” I *ASSUME* he was joking, but then again, you never know

[@vitociavarelli5979]

I agree with you Pastor TIm, and if you'll allow me, let me state it another way.... One day as we stand before Jesus, I don't see him questioning my salvation by asking "did you come to a saving grace by reading the English KJV Bible?" My salvation does not come from the Bible, it comes from Jesus, no matter how I got there!

[@mubashirdashwood3732]

Lol...Ur salvation does not come from the Bible but through Jesus? Wat do U mean by that? That's so lame ..after all people come to know about Jesus through the Bible only..

[@NOXStellans]

@@mubashirdashwood3732 Matthew 16: "16 Simon Peter answered and said, 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.' 17 Jesus answered and said to him [Peter}, 'Blessed are you, Simon Bar-Jonah, for flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.'" John 16:13 "[W]hen He, the Spirit of truth, has come, He will guide you into all truth; for He will not speak on His own authority, but whatever He hears He will speak; and He will tell you things to come." 1 Timothy 3: "16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work."

[@vitociavarelli5979]

@@mubashirdashwood3732 LOL - I'll phrase it more simply for you... The Bible itself (the actual book) is not where I (we) recieve salvation from. It's a "Holy Spirit Inspired" word of God, a testimony to all He has done. (past, present, and future). Belief in Jesus Crist in the ONLY way to salvation! BTW, the Bible is not the only way to come to know Jesus. I know of many who are saved by "hearing" His word and accepting Him as their Savior. I guess "if all people come to know Jesus through the Bible only" as you have stated, everyone before the "bible" was physically available are not truly saved. Is that what you are saying?

[@ruckanitepreacher5618]

​@@vitociavarelli5979Good response.

[@navybrandt]

I used to be an extreme KJV-only Ruckmanite, and I believed it to my core. I could make all the arguments about the TR, missing verses, and many more crazy things, and I was fully vested in the secondary revelation belief. God slowly opened my eyes to the falsehood and downright lies of that movement. Over a period of years, I went from that extreme, to saying that the KJV is simply the best translation, to saying it was my preferred translation. Now, I study the ESV primarily yet still love the classic beauty of the KJV and study it regularly - just not exclusively. Praise God for His patience and grace in my life. You are absolutely right about how divisive KJV-onlyism can be, and you handled this well!

[@NOXStellans]

Those not of the KJV-only persuasion should take note of your story as arguments are rarely won outright. The best we can expect are small course corrections over time. ... Which is why it is important to share this information before it becomes ingrained.

[@believestthouthis7]

@@NOXStellans There isn't any need to argue about the topic. I have encountered plenty of people however that have wanted to argue with me about why I should not read the KJV.

[@believestthouthis7]

I wasn't raised with the Bible so when I started out as a newly born again believer I just grabbed all of the versions. I was warned from other Christians that the KJV was "too hard to understand" and I heard it being mocked by them, so was dissuaded from focusing on it too much. But through comparing several versions on my own and learning about the history of the KJV, etc., I just could not bring myself to read the other modern versions anymore, including the ESV. There is naturally going to be a division between people that believe that the KJV is the word of the God and those that don't value it very much. For example, if I meet a KJV Bible believer, I already know that there is a good chance that we are on the same page on many doctrinal issues and there will already be an immediate connection over the love of God's word. I have never known anyone to love the Bible more than a KJV believer.

[@NOXStellans]

@@believestthouthis7 Enjoy reading the KJV. There often is a need to be informed about this topic. Disparaging the Word of God is no mean thing. Knowingly being a stumbling block to newborn Christians is a sin. Good people with good intentions disparage the Word of God and are a Stumbling Block by denigrating translations other than the KJV. - We all get stuck in a rut. It's hard to change our minds once set. This is why we don't let people who have already made up their minds sit on juries. - Our witness for God is damaged when we share ideas like KJVO. When converts learn the full truth, they lose trust in us; often this transfers into losing trust in God. Let's not be a stumbling block to others.

[@believestthouthis7]

@NOXStellans We can trust the KJV. It's the best gift someone could be given, aside from the free gift of eternal life. Personally my experience was the opposite of what you're describing.

[@thomasb4467]

I would say that anything coming from the Critical Texts are mainly derived from the Alexandrian texts which are inferior to the Byzantine texts. The Alexandrian texts were not copied and widely spread around Europe and Asia as the Byzantine Texts were and there were several hundred years where they virtually fell out of use completely. This leads me to believe that they were not preserved by God for every generation as He promised His word would be. People like Westcott and Hort had a heretical view that God's word was somehow lost and that it was up to man to reconstruct it. This is the main issue I and many like me have with the Critical Texts used today. I personally draw a line though in that I understand these versions are 90-95% the same and that you can be saved by either version/translation.

[@robbiemay330]

Great video I was KJV only my entire life because that’s all I was ever told but I’ve been saved since 2017 and this year I felt like God led me to another translation because I was struggling to understand the KJV I was led to the NASB 95 and I absolutely love it , since I have gotten this translation I have spend so much more time reading the Word of God and just enjoying the Word.

[@captainnolan5062]

The NASB is great. The NASB 2020 reads even better, though some still prefer the 1995 for reasons other than readability.

[@robbiemay330]

@@captainnolan5062 I’ve been considering diving into the LSB and checking it out but not for sure

[@captainnolan5062]

@@robbiemay330 Nevertheless, you should check out the NASB 2020 (though you do already have a great translation in the NASB 1995). I have been thinking of taking a look at the LSB as well.

[@robbiemay330]

@@captainnolan5062 I’ll definitely check out the NASB 2020

[@Judith975]

And that is more important to read than to stick to a version you're struggling with to understand. Glad you found a translation you love :) May God bless you

[@sharonfj]

I have been a KJV only reader for years, and any other translation I put a huge X on it. Afterwards, I began to give these other translations a chance, and I now have my top 7 that I love that help me with my own Bible Study. However, I’m very interested in hearing about this warning. Can’t wait! Thanks 🙏🏼

[@kaltech04]

I commend you for being open to investigate the other sides. I have no problem with folks that think the textus receptus has the best manuscripts and the KJV is the best translation. It is when you start getting into double inspiration, or the KJV has been refined seven times, modern translations are satanic perversions, that’s where it get frustrating talking to these fellow brothers and sisters in Christ.

[@richardvass1462]

I used to read all the other versions and I didn't trust did every word was the true word of God until I learn the KJV only is pure words of God and now I know the Bible I hold in my hands is God's word so you should look further into it and not trust someone who doesn't provide the other side of the story

[@marcasmacleoid8041]

I grew up in a hyper-Calvinist sect where we only read the KJV and were also taught to pray in King James English. We only sang Psalms a cappella in worship, from the 1650 Scottish Psalter. I learned a great deal there, and many of my family have remained faithful to it. I've never really "warmed" to the NIV, although it's the generally accepted standard amongst the churches I attend and preach in. Nowadays, I find myself consistently returning to the NRSVUE. I appreciate it isn't for everyone (my wife prefers the ESV). My Greek is alright, and my Hebrew practically non-existent! I find it helpful to study from a more literal translation (generally the NRSVUE for me), but for my devotions, to read something less formal like the NLT. Thank you, Tim, for your measured and gracious comments. I hope and pray that we'll all love King Jesus more than we love King James.

[@ChrisSheridan-k9z]

Loving this thoughtful series Tim. Keep up the great work.

[@KingJims]

Loving translation Tuesdays Tim, thank you for taking the time to make these videos, they are very helpful and I'm looking forward to reading your book

[@timwildsmith]

You are very welcome!

[@miguelgrados1617]

I've read ESV, NIV, NASB1995, and KJV. I choose KJV. I don't force my way on others. Seek truth, but also reject cults; ideas are more contagious than viruses. I agree with Tim, KJV folks are born again just like you. If you watch this video and find yourself confused about what to do, my advise is such: Stay alert, sober up, study the word, and share your salvation with those around you. Thank you Jesus!

[@sillyrabbi64]

At around the 11:00 mark, you describe what I call the 'postmodern gnosticism' of the KJVO movement. They have a secret/sacred text that contains the truth as opposed to all the others, and sanctification is through the exclusive use of the secret text; and the use of the text is a necessary condition for fellowship and even salvation. That's straight up gnosticism with a postmodern bent.

[@NOXStellans]

"Postmodern" in time perhaps; but too absolute to gel with postmodernism as I understand it. (I don't understand it well and those that do seem to have varying understandings.)

[@sillyrabbi64]

@@NOXStellans The best definition of PM I've heard is, "Incredulity with the metanarrative." That means the don't believe in an overarching story but only individual stories/truths/realities. I think this holds true with the extremist KJVO crowd...the big story of how we got the Bible in English is incredulous to them...their bible fell out of heaven in 1611.

[@LBCBrandon]

Great video! Mark Ward’s book is amazing and I’m sure yours will be too!

[@timwildsmith]

I hope so!

[@codyjlee]

You chose a doozy for the second Translation Tuesday, great job Tim!

[@timwildsmith]

😉

[@philr3381]

I can't wait for this video! I have been seriously enjoying my read through of the KJV. I have even used it through several courses in seminary over the past year and have memorized several long passages, something the KJV is stellar for. But there is a sure danger of onlyism with many of its users unfortunately. Can't wait

[@capnsalty0200]

Tim, thank you I was going to make a video on this very topic, but I didn't because you did just what I was going to do. You are so much better than I am and I do not have the equipped studio as you do.

[@nonielee5133]

Thank you for this great video. I have watched some of Mark Ward's videos on this topic as well. I am reading his book now and have preordered your book as well. I am looking forward to the next Translation Tuesday and more Bible reviews.Hello to Becca and your dog!

[@Rimga21]

Brother, well done!! Thank you for your calm tone and demeanor. You and Dr. Ward are paving the way for many of us ex-Ruckmanites by exposing the inconsistency and hate within the KJVO movement. Now that I am no longer KJVO, I genuinely have more love in my heart for my brothers and sisters in Christ. That does not mean I don’t have standards, it simply means I have left legalism. Again, thank you dear brother!

[@matthewnettesheim950]

I am sorry you left the perfect Word of God for a lie. Men like Ward and Wildsmith are destroying the childlike faith of many

[@SimplyProtestantBibleBeliever]

@@matthewnettesheim950the lie that modern translations help us understand the KJV better?

[@davecrawford4377]

Hi Tim,I agree 100% what you say. Great job Tim.

[@BGID7]

I couldnt agree more with everything you said Tim. Well done.

[@nickchellsen]

Just commenting to say i appreciate the way you handled the topic. Can’t wait to head the book!

[@timwildsmith]

Thank you, Nick!

[@rafaelroxas2818]

Thank you for this presentation. Very informative.

[@Fairford2001]

I just happened to come across this channel. I subscribe to Mark Ward’s channel. Good information! I read the KJV during personal devotions but more often I use the NASB 1995, the translation our church uses.

[@Palmerito]

Well said. I am looking forward very much to reading your book! I’m liking Translation Tuesdays. Maybe consider Worship Wednesdays - a deep dive into a passage of scripture?

[@snaify]

Amen! Thank you so much for this refreshing boundary and call out for the Love of Christ! It's nice to hear you speak of this after being a longtime follower of both Mark and yourself. Looking forward to reading your book!

[@tessfiore2717]

Excellent video. I was brought up to believe that the KJV was the only version I could trust. In the last 15-20 years, I've used other bibles and the ones I prefer are NKJV, NASB, and ESV (in that order).

[@derekgirldad]

Beautiful preaching❤ you have a beautiful soul big brother 💪🏼🤩 Thank you for taking the time to make this video.

[@timwildsmith]

I appreciate that!

[@anthonym.7653]

That mug is a riot. 😂 And that preacher clip was SNL-ish. 😅

[@melbeth79]

My parents were friends for years with a couple who were always there for them, helping us through many hard times. The husband of that couple had an extreme stand on KJV only. Sadly, he kept leaving church after church when he couldn't convince the leadership to enforce this version as the only legitimate one. Over time he started up on my parents too. Every time they'd visit it seemed to come up, until it came to a head on evening. It got so heated my dad feared this guy was going to punch him in the face. He stormed out, his poor wife voiceless behind him. To quote my dad, she looked like a punished, fearful dog, that just followed him out without a word. I was in my late 30s when this happened and they'd be been friends since I was 4. He never apologized and they never had any closure. He blew up a 30+ yr friendship because he didn't get his way. It was really sad.

[@MrMann-gt1eh]

That is terribly sad. I don’t understand why Christians have such a hard time NOT leaning on their own understanding. Most especially older ones. You’ve been around long enough to realize you’ve been wrong many times before. I walk around these days knowing that “I only know what I know, I don’t know what I don’t know and half the time I’m wrong about what I thought I knew”. It’s pretty freeing in that it sets in the levity that Jesus is the “way”, the “truth” and the “light”. That takes a lot of pressure off of my ego to be right.

[@thecofe]

I grew up KJV only. The first time I ever held a ESV I thought I was sinning. Now I do not use KJV at all. It's hard to go back to it from all the hatred poured from this position over the years. I preached a youth camp last summer that wanted me to preach out of KJV. I did, but wow that brought me back to the old days.

[@matthewnettesheim950]

No!!! Go back to the King James Bible, I opened up an ESV bible recently and was shocked at the problems with it, I even made a video about it. Please go back to the King James Bible

[@believestthouthis7]

I started out with a shelf full of versions and then after comparing, settled on the KJV as the one that I need. There is no going back to all of the modern versions for me. I know someone that was raised Baptist and with the KJV and now they are messed up doctrinally and hate anyone that is KJV only. Something is happening to people that they have turned their back on the KJV, but it certainly isn't anything to do with God. Sounds like they are upset about something that happened in a church building or with church people?

[@thecofe]

@@believestthouthis7 for sure for some people. I genuinely do not like the KJV at all. So for me I won’t use it. Others can and that is totally fine.

[@believestthouthis7]

@@thecofe Sounds like you like the KJV about as much as I care for the modern versions. It's interesting how we can hold the same view about different versions.

[@signejeppesen2395]

My first Bible was a King James because it was given to me by my godmother who was Lutheran. I have since read the NIV, NRSV, NRSVUE, and have started reading the CSB 2020. Different translations have different translation philosophies and show the breadth and diversity of thought within Christianity. I grew up in a high Anglican Church in Canada so will have been around different traditions and theology than someone who grew up in a Southern Baptist Church in the United States, but that doesn’t mean I can’t learn something or gain understanding from someone who did. Very thought provoking conversation. Thanks Tim 🙂

[@jamestrotter3162]

The KJV translators would disagree with that KJVO preacher.

[@joyg7575]

More than likely, yes.

[@ozzmangaming2023]

If you read the Translator to the reader in the King James Bible. They spell out in there that they definitely did not believe their translation was without error. And to top that off they speak of the Septuagint. Saying that the apostles used this translation. They made a point to say this translation wasn't perfect either. Saying that even the meanest translation is still the word of God. So they would be in the front of the line correcting the horrible hate filled beliefs that is so popular in the extreme KJVO movement.

[@igregmart]

False! I have read the translators to Reader and the dedicatory to the King, and they clearly believe their translation is an accurate translation of the original languages.

[@ozzmangaming2023]

@@igregmart I love the King James Bible. I have several copies of the Translator to the reader. They believed their translation to be superior to the LXX. And yes they believed they accomplished their goal of finishing a good translation. I guess it depends on what you mean by accurate. Anyone that reads any translation long enough will find places where it's obvious that the work isn't perfect. I know I have read many Bibles and not one has reached that level. Not the Geneva, nor the King James, or any other. In many places in the Old Testament the King James normally uses hell instead of sheol. Sheol is the place of the dead, while hell speaking of eternal punishment. That can be jarring when you come up those passages.

[@HeavyHeartsShow]

They would also disagree with many modern translators (omissions w/o footnotes, conjecture, etc.)

[@benjames5972]

Totally agree with your assessment my dear brother 🙏📖🙌

[@shanefore7324]

The bitterness and pride of the extremist KJVO folks is the same type of anger and pride of the radical reformed crowd, it’s just manifest in different ways. Great video Tim, very informative and well thought out.

[@kennethdavis2383]

Well done, Tim. Kudos to you. Thoughtful, succinct, respectful.

[@KYTChris]

I was a KJVO for years. Mark Ward helped me to see that I was wrong.

[@KJBChristian]

@@KYTChris by what?

[@MichaelAChristian1]

Mark Ward is a liar. Why do you believe that?

[@timsaco4793]

Great video as usual! Thank you, Tim for your sincere and kind heart. I agree with you completely and really appreciate the way you approach the topic. Well done and God bless!

[@timwildsmith]

You are very welcome!

[@Adrian_Mason]

I so nearly got convinced by KJO. I think that the KJ with translation notes is good, but this KJO don't want those notes. Then the "false friends" that Ward talks about is real. I now enjoy reading different translations as they open my eyes to things not seen in a single translation. Thank You for an important episode!

[@elainejan]

Excellent message. Thank you

[@Matthew-307]

When I got born again, I got sucked into kjvonlyism. It’s so toxic and robbed me of so much understanding.

[@BrockJamesStory]

that is sterotyping though. To say becaseu these people act liek this I won't believe their position. why is believing the KJV has no errors a problem?

[@Matthew-307]

@@BrockJamesStory It’s a stereotype that has extremely rare exceptions. 99% of kjvonlyists are mean, arrogant, prideful, angry, and will totally discount someone else’s whole faith if they disagree about english translations. And the last part of your comment is a problem because the statement “the kjv is without errors” is untrue. The kjv is an english translation of the Bible, it’s not THE Bible itself. THE Bible is the entire collection of Hebrew & Greek manuscripts. Insofar as any english translation is a faithful and accurate rendering of those manuscripts, we can say for that portion it is inerrant. But the kjv has errors, it has renderings that could be more accurate, it has mistakes, etc.

[@BrockJamesStory]

@@Matthew-307 could you please tell me where these errors are? Also you should come to our church then because the majority are not the things your saying

[@ozrithclay6921]

@BrockJamesStory 2 that I can name off the top of my head Dut 21:22 "...if he be to be..." is a typo that should read "...if he be..." Rev 22:19 "book of life" should be "tree of life".

[@ozrithclay6921]

@BrockJamesStory Also see issues like the nearly 100 words that changed meanings in the past 400 years. For example the word study meant to be diligent and not gaining knowledge. "Study to shew thyself approved unto God..." means to be diligent.

[@mburnsoh]

I really dig Mark Ward's work and appreciate the recommendation!

[@timwildsmith]

Me too!

[@timp1051]

There are people who say that if you didn't use a KJV bible when you were "saved", then you were never truly saved. That's crazy

[@an4yb7ack]

Who says that

[@timp1051]

​@@an4yb7ack Ive read it in the comments of other videos pertaining to this subject.

[@an4yb7ack]

@@timp1051 well they are arrogant whoever these teachers are. just wondering so I could check out their reasoning.

[@---zc4qt]

People in England were able to find salvation during the 1500s.

[@jimmyburbank]

There's nothing wrong about KJV only unless it turns hateful....some folks are NIV or whatever version like CSB only. I know the late Hal Lindsey would only use the NASB so sometimes everyone gets hooked to their favorite

[@stevebecker9645]

Thanks Tim, for your detailed comments about this very curious subject (I confess ...I do not own a physical, printed copy of the KJV). Please consider me a fan of your Tuesday series from here on in.

[@Judith975]

Super video thanks

[@tacticaltradingpennystocks7206]

And mentioning Mark Ward, many KJV guys can’t stand this guy, I was also one who didn’t like him too much when I first started seeing his videos. But I have to credit Dr. Ward in enlightening me with his false friends work. I count Dr. Ward as a brother in Christ, and thank him for the work he’s done. It doesn’t change my position on using the KJV primarily, but again, it has enlighten me tremendously on words that I was actually understanding improperly.

[@timwildsmith]

I think the reason they can't stand him is because he does such an incredible job of engaging in dialogue with their positions. His videos are incredibly fair, balanced, and kind.

[@tacticaltradingpennystocks7206]

@@timwildsmith Smart, kind, well spoken, practical… What a jerk 😂 No, you’re right. Guys who desire confrontation or heated debate get enraged by those who present practical, educated arguments in a calm, kind manner. People need to understand, we are not winning anyone to Christ with vitriolic behavior

[@captainnolan5062]

@@timwildsmith Agreed!

[@kaltech04]

Mark Ward’s work played a large part in me having more of an interest in reading the KJV. I finished the complete read through a few weeks ago. I don’t expect to use the KJV as my main translation going forward, but I will continue to reference it and mix it into my daily readings.

[@captainnolan5062]

@@kaltech04 That is a great strategy!

[@williamstokes3078]

Great work here, Tim. I’ve watched several debates regarding this and find the arguments for it ludicrous. By doing this we successfully make a translation itself an idol. I also agree that I have never once heard a decent argument for what non English speakers are supposed to do.

[@Agben35]

Love this video. I didn’t even know KJVO was “a thing” until about 2 yrs ago. Fascinating debate. Thankful for for the 3Tims, Mark Ward, and other key contributors on KZbin (and inter webs). Last Saturday I took a recent KJV Rebind I completed to my men’s study (first time using KJV in years) and was called to read a chapter aloud. It was very difficult to read and/or understand by myself and others.

[@believestthouthis7]

My experience has been that it makes more sense as you read it and then you can't read the modern versions anymore. It's comparing apples and oranges.

[@LTDLimiTeD1995]

Recently ran into one of these people. Wasn't fun. I was called an unsaved cultist.

[@Gayle8675309]

You did a great job on this topic, as it can be a powder keg issue! My brother is a KJV ONLY, and won't allow me to even MENTION a verse unless I do it in KJV. Not sure why exactly though, as he won't really discuss it. (That's probably a blessing though, no fights about it at least between us!). Love your new content on Tuesdays, but PLEASE keep the Bible reviews coming too! (Like you've got nothing better to do, right? ;) )

[@timwildsmith]

Ha!

[@matthewnettesheim950]

I like your brother and wish he would share with you why. I have a couple of videos about it on my channel.

[@believestthouthis7]

Not every person that loves the KJV wants to waste time arguing about it. They just love the KJV and don't care about the modern versions.

[@CynHicks]

I actually had someone tell me that a person needed to learn English if they wanted the true revelation from God. That's when I realized there was something really dangerous going on within the KJV only crowd.

[@cal30m1]

@@CynHicks the KJVO crowd are some of the most ignorant lost “christians” I have met. They are so ignorant they are not even aware of the fact the KJV they use is a late 18th century revision, not the 1611 version…

[@mahatmarandy5977]

Thank you for doing this. Sincerely. About 12 years ago I volunteered at a Christian school that was KJV only. The kids had to memorize an entire chapter of the Bible each month, and, hey, there’s nothing wrong with that. And it had to be the KJV version they memorized, and there’s nothing wrong with that either. I usually ended up helping with that because I’m good at memory tricks (I used to be in Bible Bowl) and the kids just learned it faster with me helping them. Eventually some of them said, “I have no idea what any of this stuff I’m memorizing means.” They could recite it flawlessly, but had no concept of what they were saying, which, to my way of thinking, is kinda useless. It’s just noise at that point, right? So I brought in an NIV one day - which I know isn’t a particularly great translation, but it’s good enough for this - and they’d read a verse, and I’d read them the same verse in the NIV, and they’d say, “Oh, *that’s* what this means!” Basically translating from English to English. :) When the (paid) staff found out I was doing this they were not amused. I made the same point I just made here: it doesn’t do anyone any good if they don’t understand it. They said anyone can understand it. I said, “Well, yeah, they can. is there a class to help kids understand 16th century english?” I was told that such things weren’t needed because anyone can understand it automatically. They believed the KJV was the only acceptable translation, and I said, “Well, I’m not saying you should switch to the NIV, I’m just saying that looking up the odd verse in it now and again so they can make sure they understood it” but, nope, none of that. It was very frustrating, and the worst part wasn’t even that it was doctrinal. The worst part (For me) was that they couldn’t even understand the point I was making. In their minds, just looking at the NIV or any other version was bad. Frustrating.

[@scottfw7169]

That was a sad situation. And when those kids who memorized the sounds but didn't understand what those sounds meant get dumped in the secular world they will be vulnerable to being drawn away from their faith because of that lack of understanding, that lack of knowledge. I wonder what the school staff people get from willingly setting the kids up to fail; settin all those kids up to later fail has to bring them some kind of personal fulfillment or they wouldn't be doing it.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

@@scottfw7169 Right? Exactly my point, but they literally couldn’t understand my point. I spoke with the staff about it several times and they just didn’t seem to comprehend it. Full disclosure: This was an ACE school, which *deliberately* hires teachers and administrators who have no formal training from any accredited institutions because (paraphrasing from their rule book) such people have been corrupted by the world, and will do things in a secular way, not a Godly way. Needless to say, I was unaware of this when I enrolled my kid there, and also when I volunteered.

[@matthewnettesheim950]

Actually it was very wise of the (paid) staff to correct you. Why? Because the King James Bible is the perfect word of God!

[@mahatmarandy5977]

@@matthewnettesheim950 Funny, I would have thought that the Perfect Word of God would be the original text, which in this case would have been koine greek.

[@---zc4qt]

I bet the staff uses MODERN English when they talk to each other. ( There are pros AND cons to the KJV of the Bible.)

[@jeffnasta4650]

This was a very thorough discussion. I'm a NKJV/NASB 1995 for the most part, but I also look at other translations at times; ESV, CSB, Berean Standard, Legacy Standard and the KJV. It just helps at times to see the wording and thought process that went into the interpretation and translation of the different Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic manuscripts. I look forward to future discussions.

[@Adventure-stuff]

I go to a KJV church but, Jesus has spoken to me through his word in the ESV, NASB, & KJV, etc. Good points, it's a turn off to get told that there is only one perfect, preserved version. Like what is everyone else in the body reading? The other translations are necessary and being a layman, I know God can and has used them by faith. God bless. Jesus said to him, “Have you believed because you have seen me? Blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” John 20:29

[@Dylan-wn7dm]

Great video Tim that was need to be heard

[@sethjohnson7940]

I was raised in a soft KJV only church (church of Christ). Until just a few years ago, I was taught and truly believed that all other translations except for KJV/NKJV should not be used. Once I actually researched other translations and opened them up, I couldn’t believe that anyone would take such a position. I pray for any who is caught up in this way of thinking, that the Spirit will change their hearts and stop this nonsense.

[@tjmaverick1765]

I was raised church of Christ, but most churches in my area used the NIV. Then one time a door knocking group came and insisted we use the KJV. I thought that was odd. I've been enjoying the BSB lately.

[@nickgee7291]

The one guy going : amen? And then saying : oh my! Hilarious! Also. As a greek, we make plenty of other food!!! 😂

[@thedrumssayyes]

Well said, brother. I always say the best translation is one that you will read with a few exceptions of course. Haha

[@littlemama4two]

Excellent Tim you presented this "disagreement " very well>fairly. Thx

[@j.s.matlock1456]

I briefly attended an Independent Baptist Church, and I left it because the pastor was a rabid KJV Only-ist. He once said that if the Bible we were using was anything but KJV, we should toss it in the dumpster on the way out of the church parking lot. I have nothing against the KJV. It was the most common version in use when I was growing up. When I quote scripture, it usually comes out KJV because that's the way it went in. But I seriously bridle at being told which version of the Bible I can and cannot read. That minister and I had other doctrinal disagreements such as women in ministry and the baptism in the Holy Spirit (I grew up AG.), so the KJV issue was not the only reason I left, but it was certainly a catalyst in my departure.

[@matthewnettesheim950]

Have you ever considered that your pastor may have been right? Being stubborn and rebellious against the truth has never been good. You can always find someone on the internet who will tickle your ears, like Ward and Wildsmith.

[@j.s.matlock1456]

@@matthewnettesheim950 My brother in Christ, have you ever considered that I'm taking the Bible and not Ward or Wildsmith as my final authority? I'm not stubborn and rebellious against the truth. I'm disagreeing with one man's dogma.

[@---zc4qt]

Most KJV Onlyist would be really MAD to read what the 1611 translators say in "Translators to the Reader".

[@jerryg5807]

Great video, Tim. Thank you for doing this video. My grandparents were Primitive Baptist and they were KJV only. Very insightful information!

[@laurenmakesplans]

I grew up in the KJVO culture, (although I now use and prefer the ESV) and I know kind and respectful people on this topic, and I’ve also known and sat under the hate spewing. This video is 100% spot on, and I appreciate your respect and clear care and concern for this issue. Thank you for bringing light to this issue in such a respectful and caring way.

[@Poppop-yp7zm]

Great video. I navigate between the KJV and NASB for study with ESV and NLT.

[@wurmhat1501]

The best Bible translation is whatever one a person will read. Getting crazy one way or the other is not a good look for the kingdom.

[@matthewnettesheim950]

No! NO! and NNNOOOO! The best Bible translation is the Bible that God perfectly preserved and that is found in the kIng James Bible!

[@mbshelby18]

Great video. Thanks for sharing!

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks for watching!

[@brycegeorge37]

Going to be honest, I used to be one of those people that believed in The KJV only crowd. But when I got older I started searching for more answers and started experimenting with more versions and I got a lot out of them, I also got into looking into the original Greek in the Hebrew to learn more of the definitions of things, and I learn more. Learn more. I still prefer King James version most of the time over all of the other versions, but I'm not afraid to learn more and look at other versions either

[@BrockJamesStory]

right KJV only does not mean you can't look at other translations, it simply means you know that your KJV is without error.

[@brycegeorge37]

@@BrockJamesStory The thing is though it is without our any translation that's not the Greek or the Hebrew is going to be without error, because it's not the original language that was spoken without actually understanding the Greek and the Hebrew you can't really understand what Jesus is talking about in any given situation and you also have to understand the culture of the day as well. It is a terrible position to have when you really start thinking about the implications

[@BrockJamesStory]

@@brycegeorge37 I think your grammar in the beginning miscontrued what you were trying to say? Or at least I don't understand. Are you saying that its impossible as in will never be done that a translation could be without error?

[@brycegeorge37]

@@BrockJamesStory absolutely, because you will always need to be able to understand the traditions and customs of the day. Day they are inexplicably linked to the Jewish language and the Greek language and the Aramaic language. No translation can capture this because in a translation you are only capturing words, not customs and traditions, don't get me wrong. A translation can get much closer if we put our own agendas of what we think about the Bible aside and actually translate the language verbatim of what it's actually supposed to say, that's actually happened with the KJV. I know of at least one time where a pastor read some notes on it and why they were translating it the way they did and they had their own personal agenda about it. Isaiah 53 :4 was supposed to say "Surely it was our diseases. He bore our pains from which he suffered yet we regarded him as punished smitten of God and afflicted" there are other translations that translated it this way but The people who translated the King James literally said they couldn't translate it this way because that might give the people that believe in healing some merit

[@BrockJamesStory]

@@brycegeorge37 What I am hearing from you is even in the greek and hebrew language we can't really know what it means or says though either because definitions change, traditions change, culture changes etc. its almost like Bart Erhman was the only one who was being honest with the evidence. That or what your saying is not actually correct?

[@robertosborn8720]

Thanks Tim for a more reserved approach to this topic. I agree with Mark Ward's channel much of the time. More on the point you made about the others that do not speak English, what about All of the people that lived before the KJV came out in 1611? Were they not saved because there wasn't a 'perfect' translation till the KJV?? 1Corinthians 10:12 - Therefore let him who thinks he stands take heed lest he fall. NKJV

[@jasonhamilton7147]

Hi Tim from UK it was because of you in covid that I started to read the nrsv even though people were saying it is liberal so I went down the rabbit hole and started my own research this cost a great deal in books and bibles and only ends in anxiety and confusion. It took a long time for me to find rest in my heart thanks to the holy Spirit and your non judgemental videos. At the moment I am reading the nasb77 and enjoying the translation. Remember when people say horrible things to you remember it's because you are a threat to the devil's plan of people questioning the written word thank you Tim.

[@joshhulling5558]

Great video Tim!

[@timwildsmith]

Thanks!

[@RegularSean]

All that matters is Christ. Everything else is irrelevant.

[@stevemeng2554]

Well said brother ❤

[@ShawnBrasfield]

Thanks Tim for a great commentary on this topic - I agree! I just finished listening to the Audible version of Mark Ward’s book “Authorized” - going in-depth on the use and misuse of the KJV version. I highly recommend the Audible version as Mark is the narrator and provides some great “Elizabethian” accents to various portions of the text. Your new book is next on my reading list…once it arrives!

[@matthewnettesheim950]

I am so sorry you have been corrupted by books like Mark Wards. He creates straw men and then knocks them down. The King James Bible is absolutely an amazing book! Sorry you have been misled

[@ErnDawg08]

God bless you, this was a beautiful necessary topic handled with passion, precision, and care.

[@LilliansStory]

Way to go Tim! I was raised KJV with a fear of other translations. As a late teen i was given a Bible for my birthday. It was one of the first NKJV. She explained that some of the word meanings in the KJV had changed over time. Cut to MANY years later when my pastor while answering my questions suggested i read all translations and use a Strongs to search the words that were translated differently. Today as a ThM student at Dallas Theological Seminary, I do read multiple translations. I usually read NLT, CSB, and NKJV. I feel this gives me a broad spectrum. The NKJV is my favorite. I cant really say why. I do have many other Bibles and often look up how certain words are translated in them.

[@carben9143]

How long have you been in Seminary?

[@GabrielGuess]

I group reading the KJV, I am now 48. I have heard all that Tim just mentioned, I will say that 2 Timothy 3:16 is in every word for word translation. I love that way the poetry flows in the KJV. I do preach from the KJV, it is because of uniformity in our church. I do love how, for the most part, the translators left some decisions between you and the Holy Spirit. I am not familiar with the critical text Time brought up, but I am with the Textus Receptus. I can show people Jesus and their need for salvation using any version of the Bible. I do not believe this is something to break fellowship over. However, for me, I do draw the line for a thought translation. Tim Wildsmith I have just discovered you and your channel, thank you for your thought provoking and challenging videos. It has gotten me to think, reconsider, and challenge myself to grow more. Thank you.

[@iiHaveASillySmile]

So glad you covered this! Really enjoying these Translation Tuesday videos! (:

[@gearheadperkins]

Amen, brother great video.

[@Rood67]

The title is misleading. As a KJB user, I was expecting the militant rhetoric I usually get when someone sees me post scripture from the KJB. This was well done, and not deserving of the shock and awe title. As a KJB user, I must get some of this coffee mugs to give as Christmas presents. I know several KJB pastors that will get a kick and laugh from that. The reason I prefer the KJB is primarily due to modern translations go back and change enough to maintain their copyright status every few years. You either translated it correctly to start with, or you should never have put the product on the market. Beyond the grammar corrections from 1611, that even I cannot read even though I love the translation and enjoy word puzzles; some of the spelling is … wow; how did we ever make it out of the dark ages. That said, the 1611 and Geneva are readable after being in the Cambridge grammar revision. I don’t get into the extremism of ranting about the other text being found in a garbage can in some back room of a monastery or whatever that tale is. Jesus didn’t preach from the KJB, or other ridiculous things people say. I do agree with a point you brought up. The purpose of the KJB translation was to make the Bible available to anyone. This included peasants from 400+ years ago that did not have a formal education. The people that say it is too hard to read are just being lazy and looking for an excuse to not read something written like the books they were forced to read in high school English class written by Shakespeare. This isn’t meant to be a militant point of view for KJB Only extremism, it is an observation of our society as a whole today, me included, that wants everything neat and fast, faster, still not fast enough. This is one point the KJB actually helps me, as it forces me to slow down. And it expands my vocabulary, especially when dealing with what the other guy calls false friends. I have to go look stuff up, and learn when things changed, and then decide myself, by prayer, what is correct in context with the passage.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

Politely, I disagree a bit. Some people do legitimately have difficulty understanding Elizabethan English. My mom, for instance. She grew up with it, but the language is daunting to her. She’s not lazy, she’s just not as good at reading as some people are. Not everyone has the same facility with language. I’ve memorized entire books of the KJV, I’m very familiar with it, but even I have to mentally shift gears when reading it. In essence, it’s more *work* for me to read it than other translations, even with my familiarity. And as for Shakespeare….dude, I’m a 57 year old author. I’ve written a bunch of well-received books. I’m fairly literate. I still have to read each passage of his plays several times to figure out what the heck he’s talking about. The language presents a significant barrier for me. It’s certainly pretty and fun to listen to, I’m not suggesting it be changed, but as a consequence I’ve never read a single one of his plays for fun. My son, conversely, zips right through them with no problem whatsoever. Not everyone has the same limitations. I think people need to be accommodating of that. Also - this isn’t really a disagreement so much as a quibble - I was always under the impression that the KJV was intended first and foremost as a preacher’s Bible. Which is to say that it was intended to be read aloud in public by a preacher or whomever, commanding people’s attention by its admittedly-beautiful phrasing, cadence, and word choices. I don’t think it was intended to be read by the hoi paloi, even the fairly small number of them who could read. I could be wrong about that, of course

[@Rood67]

@@mahatmarandy5977 and I politely agree with several of your disagreements. As Jose Wales and Ten Bears discussed, we can live together without arguing, and killing each other spiritually. I'd be interested to know what you have written.

[@mahatmarandy5977]

@@Rood67 [Laughing] I automatically like you. :) Six collections of (mostly) science fiction short stories and novellas, co-wrote two novels, and a book of really, really, really bad poetry that I should probably take off of Amazon. (I put it up as a dare seven or eight years ago)

[@douglasboyd8475]

When I first got saved the King James totally threw me for a loop. Phrases like, “I wot not.” Verily verily…. I came out of the world of rock music, snorting cocaine, chasing women and the king James was very hard for me to read. I love it now, but my sister gave me a living Bible, and when she did, the word of God came alive. It changed my life.

[@sandersdca]

You can fix ignorance, but you can't fix arrogant ignorance.

[@nikolairostov3326]

You can wake a man who’s sleeping, but not a man who’s pretending to be asleep.

[@HeavyHeartsShow]

@@sandersdca Treating Vaticanus and Sinaiticus as superior codexes to all other manuscripts is also arrogant ignorance.

[@sandersdca]

@@HeavyHeartsShow no, that is called an opinion. To suggest the KJV can be used to correct the Greek text (of any kind) is arrogant ignorance.

[@HeavyHeartsShow]

@@sandersdca not everyone who believes the KJV is superior thinks it can correct the Greek. That’s poisoning the well.

[@sandersdca]

@@HeavyHeartsShow it could be, yes. That's why Wildsmith went to some lengths to differentiate between rational and civil KJV-Onlyists and the vitriolic fringe minority. I would only take issue with the excessive claims of the second group.

[@Ldgreggbell]

Honestly it would be really good if we had a dynamic TR bible. Imagine a HCSB Textus Receptus. That would be a nice addition.

[@rangersmith4652]

I grew up in a Southern Baptist church that was taking a vote on which version of The Bible would be placed in the pew racks. (A donor had promised to cover the cost.) One elderly lady declared that we simply must have KJV because, "If it was good enough for Jesus, it should be good enough for us."

[@Pilgrim0513]

I so appreciate your channel, I’ve learn a lot, also a little poorer if you get my drift. Keep up the good work ✝️🙏🏼❤️

[@timwildsmith]

Sorry about that! 😉

[@jackwagon4313]

If the kjv was good enough for Paul, it's good enough for me ! 😅😅😅

[@jamespope6795]

That’s funny 😂