The Dark Jedi WORSE than Palpatine | Star Wars Lore

We discuss the Dark Jedi Joruus C'baoth, and his descent into madness which made him ultimately worse than Emperor Palpatine, on today's Star Wars Legends lore video!
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Battle (right side): Marc Simonetti: art.marcsimonetti.com/science...
C'baoth (right side): Eldar Velikhanov: www.artstation.com/artwork/mq...
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[@EckhartsLadder]

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[@GhostonGuitar]

The link doesn't work

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck *Attempt 677* Do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy.

[@nikojanatuinen631]

Hey man, I saw The Rise of Skywalker yesterday and I just wanted to give my spoiler free opinion about the movie. I LOVED IT SO MUCH! It achieves what it needed: to conclude the saga and tell an interesting and emotional story. However, I understand some of the problems that critics are having with it, but I think this a love letter to the fans (and maybe an apology letter for people who disliked TLJ.) The pacing is sometimes too fast and I could have teared up more than once. Daisy Ridleys and Adam Drivers acting is fantastic and their characters storyline is amazing! Rey has a lot of character development and her story makes a lot of sense now. The movie awnsers a lot of questions and I feel mostly satisfied. I hope you will enjoy it too, Eck! Palpatine was creepy as hell!!😰

[@littlesebastian4389]

With the recent infatuation with Force ghosts, why are there no Sith Ghosts?

[@oddish2253]

Government plans Old Republic: Everything is OK no need for change. Separatist: My boss is lazy af. I wanna quit Palpatine: Tell me more. Empire: OK lets get everything organized in here. Rebels: My boss is a frekken Nazi. I wanna quit New Republic: Everything is OK no need for change. First Order: Yo my boy New Republic imma kick you out of the house cause you lazy dog. New Republic: I dunno I don't wanna leave doh. First Order: Bye Felicia.

[@SteinerArts]

Thrawn Trilogy is the true sequel trilogy we deserve.

[@juanelorriaga2840]

Hello yeah these should have been episodes 7,8 And 9 so much going on and a lot to cover

[@evenl.b4409]

Steiner Arts That’s what I’ve said from the beginning!

[@truegregthompson]

Sadly it took too long for the sequel trilogy to get worked on. If George had started in the mid 2000s, and not worked on his idea of bringing the Whills or however it's spelled in (as micro sized aliens or something like that), then maybe we would have had a chance. By the time we got Force awakens the general public had lost its intereet and SW was just a geek thing again which I think explains the ease that Disney and everyone involved cast off what existed already. Had they bought the IP during the height of star Wars frenzy when books and games were still being churned out monthly or weekly and there is no way Disney would have junked it, it would have been making money from day 1. And they would have picked something to make fast and I am sure it would have been this trilogy, rogue squadron as a tv series, and so on. Bit of a rant but yeah, we needed the train to keep rolling after the prequels but likely due to bitchy little incels hating on it George lost interest again after revenge

[@d.j.p.g.b.9662]

I agree

[@joeedel5060]

Darth bane trilogy was also fabulous. I've read both

[@PsionicMonk]

Palpatine: Lawful Evil Joruus: Chaotic Evil

[@levongevorgyan6789]

Ironically, he wanted to control every sentient being in the galaxy. He himself might have been chaotic evil, but his goals were Lawful Evil.

[@PhantomRedKnight]

​@@levongevorgyan6789 Tenebrae is the same way as C'baoth, except he's much more powerful and destructive and somewhat less insane.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

When he took over Covell's mind and REPLACED parts of it with himself was chilling because he realized he could do that over distance to ALL the clones Thrawn made because they were only made of 20 or so variants. He would BE the Empire. Thrawn had no idea the power he awoke from slumber on Wayland

[@Daldi564]

This is one of the reasons why C'Baoth is one of my favourite Legends characters.

[@grandadmiralzaarin4962]

@@Daldi564 Jerec is my favorite Darksider. His plan to use the Valley of the Jedi to give him the power of thousands of Jedi and Sith purely into himself. According to the Force Ghost of Jedi Master Qu Rahn, "If he succeeds in this he will become a creature the likes of which has never been seen before. The supernova of stars with a word, the eradication of life with a thought will be within his power."

[@josephmoore5422]

I was honestly surprised after reading some of the EU books, Luke was the laid back funny guy while Mara was the kick ass take names no nonsense badass

[@delta2372]

Luke and mara honestly were a pretty good couple, Luke was the kind sensitive funny guy who would try to talk down a rough situation while mara as you said would just kick someone's ass

[@AswollAlpaca]

Mara is a female character done right.

[@josephmoore5422]

@TheCrashingToaster ? What? How is carefree and a jokester beta? Luke literally kills people and flexes on people when he gets upset. Goes to the dark side and fought in several full scale wars, beta where?

[@Smellbringer]

@TheCrashingToaster There was the Crystal Star, where he is actually written as a little bitch; Austin McConnell has a great video on that. Most of the time he's the same as he is in the OT and it's what makes him a great counter to someone like Mara Jade. Luke may be powerful but he isn't threatening by nature, Mara on the other hand isn't as powerful but far more threatening.

[@Smellbringer]

Luke Skywalker: A calm and serene jedi, who always tries to find a non violent solution. Mara Jade Skywalker: "So anyway I started blastin'."

[@brianrunyon266]

Wow, I remember that character. Loved Marc Thompson's narration for the Thrawn Trilogy, and others. Shamed that other Legends books weren't unabridged.

[@EckhartsLadder]

Yes he does a phenomenal job

[@brianrunyon266]

@@EckhartsLadder One of my favorite audio book narrators, especially when it comes to Star Wars.

[@matthewmalbrough2632]

My only issue with Thrawn books is that they sometimes wouldn’t make sense even in old canon. Some clone wars references and other things had to be retconned to fit the prequels and it’s just iffy. I would enjoy a retelling of the story in the years between return of the Jedi and the force awakens. Could happen since thrawn is currently MIA.

[@KrisFrost4359]

Brian Runyon All Legends books after 2008 were unabridged except Legacy of the Force, I think.

[@HonestHappyHater]

@@matthewmalbrough2632 The only thing that does not make sense is Leia remembering her mother hiding her in a chest. Clone Wars references are completlyy valid, there have been at least 3 instances of the Jedi fighting against clones

[@markednomad3630]

Note to self never clone Jedi, they always turn out batshit crazy.

[@juanelorriaga2840]

So true I was just thinking of Force Unleashed and how many times Vader went through that until he finally had one that didn’t go nutty on him

[@tacticaldroidtx22]

X2 turned out okay...

[@kabob0077]

@@tacticaldroidtx22 X1 didn't though. Hell, it might be a 50/50 chance of insanity for any clone of a Jedi.

[@tacticaldroidtx22]

@@kabob0077 I think X1 was sane but had a different worldview than that of his brother.

[@mattdarragh1811]

*forced unleashed 2 noises*

[@DDayJayke]

Audible?! I have the paperback books of the Thrawn Trilogy. The trilogy which I like to call the real sequel trilogy.

[@cuileth3369]

Hell yeah

[@tilltronje1623]

Facts

[@kabob0077]

Everyone knows the Disney Trilogy is just a shitty and backwards bastard child of Dark Empire.

[@matthewmalbrough2632]

Yeah but it doesn’t even fit in with canon. It needs retcons to make sense with the prequels. It’s a good story, but it’s not the best sequel trilogy.

[@tasteofchaos6539]

Just the fact that it fleshes out the New Republic struggling to snuff out the remains of the Empire both there military and political influence for me is what's make it feel like a real sequel.

[@vitorkennedy1862]

Thrawn is indeed one of the most skilled military leaders in history but people ignore the fact that the high points of Thrawn's campaign against the new republic were the result of the actions of Joruus C'baoth. Without his Battle Meditation many of Thrawn victories might not happen, furthermore the clone army used by Thrawn were guarded by C'baoth who after Palpatine's first death had took over the installation in Wayland.

[@thedarkknight727]

Joruus was basically the Saruman of the Star Wars Universe.

[@tylerjones7592]

actually dooku is the Saruman of the Star Wars universe both were respected members of their order but turned to the dark side and were played by Christopher Lee

[@evenl.b4409]

I feel Taron Malicos is inspired by Jorus C’baoth

[@jacker90]

I had that same thought when I fought him.

[@sergioruiz733]

That is definitely what I thought, even his look is kinda similar along with his personality.

[@Livingeidolon]

A mix between Joruus and Patches.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I feel Taron was more insane honestly

[@JonP1245]

i thought the same thing

[@darksea3154]

Last time I was this early, the empire still existed

[@tasteofchaos6539]

Currently reading the last book from the Thrawn trilogy, I've very much enjoyed them so far.

[@sergeantassassin3425]

Brought to mind this quote by Palpatine: "No, Lord Vader. I do not wish to rule over a galaxy of the dead. Only living, breathing subjects are worthy of control." Palpatine had standards; C'baaoth had none.

[@jacobberg373]

I remember that quote, but I doubt that would stop him from just blowing up ever planet that gave him a dirty eye. Just remember, Palpatine was always on edge of sanity or already insane, just see what his ultimate plan for the galaxy was in the Sequels, rule through complete and utter fear where hope and Rebellion ever rise against him.

[@sergeantassassin3425]

@@jacobberg373 We don't discuss the Sequels around these parts. Far as we're concerned, there are only 6 major SW movies.

[@Asko83]

C'baoth had no real long term plans. His insanity made him incapable of that. The victim of his that died when their connection was blocked died not because of a sudden shock but simply because he was unable to live without the Dark Jedi controlling him. The book describes him as sitting down and then simply lying down on some bed as if he didn't see reason to do anything once the voice of C'baoth stopped guiding him. His mind had been molded and reduced to so little that without constant guidance and control even his body shut down as if even basic functions like breathing and hearbeat would have been something that he needed to be told to do. This leads me to thinking that if C'baoth had succeeded in spreading his control, his other victims would have also died moments after C'baoth dying. And at some points in the book it seemed like he was only interested in controlling one or few people and making them dependent on him but as he was utterly insane it is possible that he would have tried to control entire worlds. It is just that at some points he seemed to consider his control over people as a work of art and therefore "perfecting" it by controlling another Jedi would have been all that he wanted, but he was hardly consistent (which was the point, he was insane.)

[@Tracer_Krieg]

What makes C'Boath worse than Palpatine, not in terms of power but as a villain, is that C'Boath thinks he's right. Palpatine was evil, and he reveled in this. He had no illusions about anything he did being 'good.' But C'Boath on the other hand legitimately feels that his way is the only way the Jedi can rebuild and survive: by seizing power from those who betrayed them to begin with, and taking it for themselves. In a way, he isn't entirely wrong in his perspective when we account for the Prequels. The people of the galaxy did nothing when the Jedi were betrayed and murdered. The galaxy's greatest protectors, who were flawed but at least tried, died amidst cheers and applause. So why should they keep their power considering what they did? What Luke represents however is not only change for the Jedi, but for the people of the galaxy. Times change, and so must people in the end. This is what makes their conflict so interesting. They are effectively two different approaches to rebuilding the Order coming into conflict with the other.

[@user-lw8kb2vj9y]

Palpatine thought he was good

[@KEVMAN7987]

Imagine Palpatine's evil mixed with complete insanity.

[@avxy3632]

I know you're trying to make the point of 1 + 1 = 2 here with compounding evil and insanity, but as Eckhart's ladder explained, there was a method to Sidious' madness where with C'baoth there was not. In this case, it's more like 1 + -1 or 1 + 0.50 because the actual efficacy of asserting ones will is impeded by their own fog and so they tend to undo themselves with no backup plan unlike Sidious had. A logical evil pervades further, leaving deeper impact where as the complete insanity will make the individual more resolute yet their conduct in handling the bigger picture will falter. So if Sidious was more insane, he'd probably just torment people more than he actually made plans and end up just the same as C'baoth i.e. not the greatest threat despite his inane cruelty.

[@tmakalpha1]

I wonder sometimes if the "Final Order" was a subtle nod to the third book of the Thrawn trilogy.

[@BigMunze]

pls never change your outro, still loving it

[@thedarkknight727]

Jaruus C'baoth also give me vibes to Sindel from Mortal Kombat 11, where he believes everything most bow and serve him, in simple words a TRUE Dictator.

[@siegel947]

Why is the books in legend version of Lucas star wars is more interesting than Disney disenfranchised books version !......

[@juanelorriaga2840]

I’m going with that everyone involved loved what they did and it showed where as Disney just wants money from Star Wars

[@danielhaire6677]

Also, Lucas had an overall vision of how the old EU was to develop and he got well-established science fiction/fantasy authors to pen it. Disney has shown no such design other than "tie to a movie or game" and the authors aren't nearly as good as a Salvatore, Brooks or Cunningham to name a few.

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

@@danielhaire6677 lucas had little to no involvement in the EU, he has said as much many times over the years. He passed all that work of choosing the right authors to other people who Did choose the right people. For the most part.

[@smoldream2908]

Connor notyerbidness Even Lucas’ acknowledgements of Legends are weird, he’s been cited to say that he enjoyed sequel stuff like the Dark Empire Trilogy, but later on, he’s said that in his mind, nothing from Legends happened after RotJ (or really nothing at all...though he’s had multiple plans for Sequel movies before)

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

@@smoldream2908 it was a case of saying " i like it, but its its own thing." He delegated a level of continuity system even for it all. Hard canon was the films and tv shows (only tv shows He worked on ie clone wars), EU canon (not canon in his mind), and then several lesser canons and non canons (extreme retconned stuff and more elseworlds stuff, like Old wounds where maul survived and tracked obi wan for 10 years but vader died on mustafar)

[@wifi961]

I wish they would’ve used more Dark Jedi in movies, they seem interesting.

[@jacobberg373]

Kylo Ren and Snoke can called be called Dark Jedi for their use of the Dark Side without being Sith. Though as we all know, this was a ruse created by Palpatine in an effort to prevent Luke getting into his plans

[@jknetwork6211]

Me: There’s no one worse then Palpatine in Star Wars: Echartsoadder: shows video. Me: ...........okay then.

[@397llederson6]

That guy isn't worse

[@nickmalachai2227]

He's less effective and was stopped sooner. If this guy became Emperor instead of Palpatine (or however he would've ascended to that level of power) things would be significantly worse. Then again, he didn't build the Dark Empire

[@397llederson6]

@@nickmalachai2227 Yes but he can be stopped far better and far faster

[@nickmalachai2227]

@@397llederson6 due to the circumstances of his discovery. If he hadn't drawn the focus of literally the most powerful forcewielder ever (Luke), he would've had a clone army under him and perpetuated his will from planet to planet

[@397llederson6]

@@nickmalachai2227 Luke was not even stronger than Vader at the time

[@thegoofyarchive8300]

The worst dark Jedi uses TikTok, therefore the site must be destroyed. Source: trust me dude

[@d1etpussy621]

I believe you.

[@Zen-sx5io]

True talk.

[@SuikodenGR]

This Is The Way

[@theinquisitionsparrot6749]

Pardy you don’t need me to trust you to agree

[@jacobvalentine1676]

When some one asks me for a a very brief sum up for Star Wars I say Space Wizards, that beard more or less proved my point.

[@jacobberg373]

Indeed, magic slave wizards

[@ScotchLizardman]

Your lore videos have always been interesting or fun for me to listen to

[@nobleman9393]

Suggestion: Droid Gunship(Star Wars) vs Phantom Gunboat(Halo)

[@Kulthul]

The guy just needs to play Sims.

[@campinatorxbox1610]

LMAO

[@valmarnecroa6021]

Jorus: "mind control! Wizard eyes!" Luke: "dude, you are fucking crazy"

[@holeshotshane6344]

Sideious was pure evil but Sabioth was pure chaos. Not necessarily good or bad, light or dark. Just pure chaos

[@PhantomRedKnight]

Tenebrae was both pure evil and pure chaos.

[@noneed4me2n7]

Really dug the early thrawn books. Some of it was a little wacky but I thoroughly loved the world building.

[@RapidFire175]

This could have been Snoke and Hux could have been Thrawn, oh well

[@coachjim249]

Great video! I read these books when I was pretty young. Thanks for the blast from the past!

[@JRMAV1]

There’s so much from EU that blows the Sequel Trilogy out of the water

[@blackshogun272]

Mister Rhodes a film adaptation of The Crystal Star (the book heralded as the worst Star Wars novel by the majority of Legends fans) would make their sequel trilogy look shit...

[@jacobberg373]

@@blackshogun272 I would guess that you are satisfied with nothing star wars anymore if wish to fall to such depths to find enjoyment

[@slicerneons3300]

If they ever made an animated movie adaptation of the Thrawn Trilogy, Mark Hamill in his Joker voice would fit Joruus perfectly.

[@delta2372]

That would actually be funny in a way, when joruus is speaking to Luke mark is basically talking to himself lmao

[@tagginondawal3961]

I literally was listening to the Unabridged version of Heir to the Empire, saw the name of the vid, and was guessed it would be C'baoth. I'm going to get the rest of the trilogy as well, it's really well read.

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck The UNSC Pre-Covenant war or Post Covenant war vs the Terran Dominion (StarCraft).

[@Nikoli492]

I rather be a pun for Palpatine than have my brain rewired to be a puppet to Joruus.

[@PhantomRedKnight]

Vitiate is way worse

[@nicklikesfitness2815]

The Thrawn audiobooks were amazing

[@Horus9123]

Great video! I have question. In Bane's trilogy was one interesting dark Jedi Seth (3rd book), do you know what happen to him after books?

[@Iamafafr]

Yes because their lightsabers are made out of sand

[@Juel92]

I'm a new fan and I've been watching a lot of your videos lately. On the subject of your matchups with different sci-fi universes I'm wondering why you've never had any Farscape ships, factions, tech etc. on any of the videos?

[@keithkeith293]

The Thrawn trilogy was the first books I read after Splinter of the Mind's Eye(?) waaaay back in the day. I really wish that the movies were taken from those books. The only problem would be how to end it properly. Love the channel and "May The Force Be With You!"

[@Coolman-hb2vu]

I'm gonna leave this here.

[@Jaden-Ring]

🍞

[@elijahbennett88]

Hmm, reminds me a lot of the character Kreia from Kotor 2; very cool abilities. Great video, subbed.

[@nobleman9393]

Suggestion: Which Sci-Fi Faction has the Best Scout Car | Warthog(Halo), MTV-7(Star Wars), Hellion(Starcraft), Harasser(PlanetSide)

[@skitgrurdbattlestompah3598]

You should do a vs episode on the Warhammer old ones vs the halo precursors

[@bobcrandall7749]

When I listen to the audio book. This is awesome the true ST

[@willording2877]

Random question: Did the Imperial Navy have hull numbers for its various ships? The US Navy has been numbering its hulls by type and sequence since before the 1900's (for example SSN-571 the Nautilus which is SS for submarine and N for nuclear power being the 571st submarine in the sequence of construction). Is there a system for this? Further more sailors have a great deal of pride in what ship they serve on often using their hull numbers for tattoos, combos on lockers, etc. Did the Imperial Navy see this level of pride in their ships?

[@simonwillis1529]

Man I was always miss pronouncing his name all these years lol

[@gloopaboopin]

I always did it as I saw it, “K-Bah-oath” 😂

[@martinp3166]

You know what is even worse than him? The sequels

[@Isildurwasbetrayed]

Martin P oof good one

[@benc6830]

Jar Jar?

[@caleykruse9852]

Cry more loser

[@theleftfootedsultan]

@@caleykruse9852 sorry, mate, you’re in the minority here

[@tritanicwolf518]

8:15 what is this from?

[@Dalipsingh111111]

Hey Ecks, have you seen Episode 9 yet?

[@diddybut2456]

8:00 what is that movie

[@vincentjohnson7015]

I’m new to Star Wars, would anyone mind telling me what show the clip around the 8th minute is?

[@Ben-qs9fw]

Vincent Johnson it’s from one of the Old Republic game trailers I think

[@thorshammer7883]

#AskEck *Attempt 676* Do the Forerunners vs the Imperium of Man Pre-Horus Heresy faction versus battle. Both civilizations at their prime and allowed to use anything in their possession at that point.

[@YousANerd]

Jorrus C'baoth is one of my favorite Star Wars Villains

[@PhantomRedKnight]

Joruus C'baoth is the villain. Jorus C'baoth is the original.

[@YousANerd]

@@PhantomRedKnight Jorrus C'baoth is the Mad Clone I was talking about that is one of my Favorite

[@PhantomRedKnight]

@@YousANerd The clone's name is Joruus. Jorus is the original.

[@lordatom905]

#AskEck May I ask a question do you think this may :maybe this is how new canon work The Empire continues for a year til the battle of Jakku were sprinted into sub factions some of them form the Imperial remanent others became warlords and other became the first order

[@princessmarshellaaur]

He is basically the evil version of that wizard guy from shazam

[@zachgreen4182]

Just started reading the Thrawn trilogy thanks to you.

[@Kojote64]

Palpatine, ultimate star wars lawful evil. Jorrus ultimate Choatic Evil

[@labmanatlarge]

Just a note: at 4:50-4:51 the captions don’t say brain fog

[@thedirtbagstash]

My theory is that his mind control is a limited sorcery of the same variant of escence transfer. Since he doesn't transfer his whole self he fragments his spirit instead, which progressivly drive him more insane from the time he started using the power on wayland until his death.

[@i-thalhawkins9813]

If you not appointed your a rouge Force user!? Do they have hunters for those guys since the Jedi See's the force as adangerous liability if not in there control that can brutally change the universe or world!? would they attempt to get rid of them like palpatine? Even if they didn't join them or meet the expectations? Would it ! Make them a target for destructive consequences or close watch Thank you for reading 👍

[@joeford5181]

Palpatine: Wait Why isn't he my apprentice

[@simplyexisting1125]

The term master can be vague. If you reach the highest skill level possible in any particular practice, That technically makes you a master of that art or practice rather you are recognized for it or not.

[@alluringming]

Wouldn't surprise if their were a few dark jedi who were immensely powerful that they could revival the sith. Dont know if you done one yet but can you do a video of the top most powerful dark jedi?

[@DarkApostleNoek]

Suggestion video: how well would the SWTOR factions do against the Yuzon Vong specifically during the Cold War between the Empire and Republic? #askeck

[@blackshogun272]

Noek they'd do pretty well due to the Sith Empire's ferocity and The Republic's tact

[@lucacocozza]

I love a simple about Joruus C'Baoth turned into a sequels hate fest.

[@schmidtyfilms9592]

#askEck in the 1st thrawn book saboth says he killed the dark jedi protecting the mountain but what if there was no dark jedi. Is it possible Palpatine had Saboth in the mountain and he escaped but couldn't leave the planet so he took it over?

[@Ben-qs9fw]

Mr. Schmidty I wish I had a channel that’s what I thought when I read the books. I just assumed that he was Palpatine’s dark Jedi. The fact that he has no memory of killing the dark Jedi pointed to this I feel. The only problem I can see is the weird little shrine he set up where he supposedly killed them

[@jdlr369]

I loved Heir to the Empire

[@InhabitantOfOddworld]

I feel like that planet being called Weyland (?) is a very subtle reference to the Alien franchise

[@Brandonmcc1990]

Manipulation to that extent, the writer took many cues from narcissistic personality disorder, psychopathy, along with taking cues from cult leaders, its terrifying indeed, good video

[@joshjames582]

Considering Palpatine caused himself to lose fights in three separate trilogies by getting his own lightning thrown back in his face, he's hardly the standard to overcome, is he?

[@jacobberg373]

Overconfidence is your weakness, your Highness - Luke. Its kind of his thing to never learn from his mistakes

[@user-lw8kb2vj9y]

He didn't lose because of his lightnings in RotS, he won a time. He didn't lose because of lightnings in RotJ, he killed vader with them. He did lose because of them only in TRoS wich is not canon

[@thedoruk6324]

This valiantly shows the possiblity that a jedi that honed *both* light & dark - 'sides'(!) has way much more *potential* compared to a normal sith

[@TheWingland]

What would have happened if UNSC had defeated he covenant forces and captured the forerunner fleet in Halo Wars instead of destroying the ships?. #askeck

[@slickstretch6391]

I just finished the Thrawn trilogy audiobooks. F*ckin' amazeballs.

[@tenebkel5821]

For those who don’t take Star Wars too seriously, and those who is sane to the point of recognizing the stated fact that The Force is non-existent, this video should be a real thrill. Enjoy! For let’s face it, both sanity and insanity excists. Quite a lot of both around.

[@Falchion1984]

Did the "wound" in The Force over Endor affect Endor itself? #AskEck

[@ManaTeal47]

Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion/The Sith Emperor was a real bad dude as well. Trust me, I heard it from a friend.

[@voganimperium9975]

Personally, I feel like Tenebrae was a more powerful Sith than Palpatine was. Palpatine may have a more rich history, but The Sith Emperor has done stuff I feel would make modern Sith wet themselves.

[@397llederson6]

@@voganimperium9975 Actually Palpatine's master when talking about Vitiate's accomplishments he was not impressed at all and Palpatine shared similar feelings as he did what Vitiate but worse

[@voganimperium9975]

@@397llederson6 still, devouring thousands of Sith and a few planets is pretty terrifying and from what I remembered, Palpatine relied on technological prowess. The Sith Emperor was all into Force Terror like the ritual he used for immortality, the Phobis Device, creating the Dread Masters and a bunch of other dark side machinations

[@397llederson6]

@@voganimperium9975 Yeah when you're normal but if other sith can do it then not so much

[@aaronsowards4394]

What was the movie he was showing at the end.... I want to see it..

[@campinatorxbox1610]

It's not a movie but an intro to a video game. Kotor aka knights of the old republic intro's. There's a bunch of them and there pretty good. Let me know if you find it and I hoped I helped you.

[@aaronsowards4394]

@@campinatorxbox1610 thanks for the info. I found it they are pretty cool, I appreciate it 👍

[@nadnevbahne821]

finally read the thrawn trilogy and it definitely lives up to the hype

[@NJ4KTV]

I may use your code to get a canon book. Thanks.

[@TheWingland]

Halo theory idea What if the UNSC had never researched the spartan 2 or mjolnir programs. However one month after first contact with the covenant the UNSC INFINITY and her escort fleet of Autumn class cruisers appear at earth through a wormhole. The ships are fully operational and have manuals detailing how all ship systems, such as shielding and more advanced slipsace, operate and also how to build them for other ships. However it goes not have the spartan 4s. How does this affect the human covenant war? Does humanity win or lose? #askeck

[@4imo37]

hi eck

[@shanem1148]

Who was the bald sith in the animation fighting at the end?

[@qualityautismNoah]

Darth Malgus from the game The Old Republic.

[@shanem1148]

thanks!

[@nicholassas4201]

Type-47A(H2) scarab vs type-47B(H3,reach,odst) scarab vs Banished scarab vs Volatile scarab

[@panpsalt6757]

You know... Seeing that outro (dog) makes me sad you actually aren't a Doge in Imperial officer gear.

[@goldiz1978]

Expanded universe really laid the groundwork for Star Wars lore.

[@-CrimsoN-]

The Thrawn Trilogy could have easily been a better Star Wars Episode 7-9

[@-CrimsoN-]

Star Wars: Episode 7: Heir to the Empire. Could cover the initial Thrawn campaign and introduce Thrawn as the new big Baddie, similar to how Vader was introduced. Star Wars: Episode 8: Dark Force Rising. Would introduce the Katana Fleet and Joruus C'baoth in a similar vein to how the Emperor was introduced as the real big baddie in Star Wars Episode 5. Star Wars: Episode 9: The Last Command. Covers the final confrontation between Thrawn, C'baoth, Mara, Luke, Leia and all the other main characters. Boom. Solid movies right there. But Disney just had to fuck it up.

[@robinschicha4712]

C‘baoth is like the old Jahwe in the old book. Palpatine is like the Devil.

[@SuperCamProductions]

How exactly does Star Wars legends work, and why does it matter that Disney is making a "spin off" version? Can't authors just continue writing? Also, is there a group of people that decide what books get into the legends? Or is it a free for all?

[@skizzlechizzle]

Super Cam Productions legends used to be canon and is most of the EU stuff that existed before Disney owned Star Wars. Lucasfilm decided what got in and what didn’t. Authors can keep writing, but what they write can’t get published because Disney only really wants canon stuff. There is no spinoff version of legends.

[@qualityautismNoah]

Star Wars Legends was formerly known as the Star Wars Expanded Universe and contained basically everything Star Wars outside of the movies (books, comics, videogames and so on). It existed from 1976 on and was killed by Disney in 2014, two years after they bought the franchise. Everything after 2014 is Disney Canon and is it's own thing and the Expanded Universe got labeled" Legends". Think of it as two universes: Legends (1976 - 2014, tells a different and completley original story of what happens to the movie characters, has different concepts, events and characters than the current Disney movies) and Disney Canon (all the new movies, books and Comics play in that universe) They also didn't allow writers to continue the EU storyline, example: The Novels set after Return of the Jedi end with the book "Crucible", in which Luke, Han and Leia are about the same age the actors were at that point, mid 60s to 70s. That book (and it's predecessor, the 9 book Fate of the Jedi series) has set up some things that were supposed to pay of in the next books (The "Sword of the Jedi" trilogy, which Disney cancelled) There are stil Fans like me out there, who want Legends to be continued as a seperate Universe, since we have no interest in the new movies or anything from the Disney timeline. All we want is just more books, but for some reason Disney-Lucasfilm doesn't want to give us that, despite the fact it would give them more money and probably good publicity.

[@levongevorgyan6789]

Technically, Legends is still ongoing, in the form of SWTOR

[@blackshogun272]

Quality Autism I'm still stumped about why they'd prevent themselves from making good money and satisfying the pissed off fandom by establishing Legends as an ongoing parallel universe that also gets continued media support !? I have a low key theory (might be because I'm butthurt) that reasons that their ego is too big to allow them to go back on their word of making a better Expanded Universe and willingly showing their content over the last decade has been pitiful and bland at best...

[@qualityautismNoah]

@@blackshogun272 Possible. The sad thing is, the publisher Del Rey books and many of the old authors said they would like to continue it, they just can't until Lucasfilm gives them the OK. Next year two billboards are gonna be set up near Lucasfilm, asking for a continuation of Legends alongside their own canon, we will see what happens.

[@robertagu5533]

Gotta he pretty bad that even the Worst bad guy of your order looks like a Saint. The one Jedi, that even the Jedi Order shoulda put down.. WITH Sideous beside them... where's some Jedi Shadows when they're needed?

[@f.e.areproduce5298]

I mean jedi and sith would ally to off danger like this .

[@robertagu5533]

@@f.e.areproduce5298 maybe, like their fights this seems pretty circumstantial as to if he constituted a team uptown take down level threat or not.. apparently based o. How far he got in his plan and how deep he fell when he turned Dark and for the most part evil as any Sith lord

[@lord6617]

Lawful Evil vs Chaotic Evil.

[@CoolMyron]

So he is a joker Jedi or a Jedi who laughs?

[@isekaiexpress9450]

He's a mad grandpa with God complex who throws tantrums spiced up with force lightning and force grip.

[@michaelfoster9964]

He’s The One Who Laughs

[@kunlesanders]

Joruus C'Baoth (from Expanded Universe/Legends) vs. Snoke (from Disney's Star Wars)

[@Lemontarts01]

I knew anakins fav master would be here

[@darksea3154]

Nice

[@reissroony2677]

He's has full blown god complex

[@PhantomRedKnight]

He's basically Emperor Vitiate except not as powerful but much more insane.

[@valeriebredin7372]

When is battle of the dreadnoughts 2 comming out #askeck