The Dark Side of Show Business

Roseanne Barr tells Patrick Bet-David about the dark side of Hollywood.
▶ PBD Podcast | Episode 313
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Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller Your Next Five Moves

[@bandjolyn]

I loved watching Roseanne growing up, as a poor, working class kid who didn't seem to have many options. That show really captured moments of desperation that we felt, just trying to buy groceries or trying to pay the bills. I respected the hell out of her. I respect the hell out of her now for pushing back against establishment malarkey. Roseanne, we love you, thanks for being a voice for us poor ketchup-finger plebs, just trying to pay the bills every month.

[@intelligentfool09]

It was her show that made me feel better making loose hamburger meat sandwiches. Her and Goodman was phenomenal.

[@mantusdt5]

Her and tgif

[@RebeccaKhan-fx7jf]

I heard that there was allegedly a video about Angelina Jolie having to make it with lots of guys to make it in Hollywood.

[@steelearmstrong9616]

Great comment.

[@jakeyeet1323]

Well said

[@kaecake9575]

“The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”

[@kaecake9575]

"It's a big club AND YOU AIN'T IN IT!" -George Carlin

[@johngeiger3770]

*When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty* _ Thomas Jefferson

[@jeremykyle9352]

@@johngeiger3770 damn, he said that?

[@babyboy1971]

My late father was a very well known comedian and later in life, his career was in a slump and was in a tight spot. Roseanne loved dads work and put him on the show a few times, giving him good paying work and reigniting his career. She and John Goodman both. Whatever our political differences, I will forever be grateful to Roseanne for helping my dad. I met her a bunch and she is a good person who respects old Hollywood icons. Yes, she’s eccentric. I grew up in Hollywood. All the most talented people are.

[@tonyamartin1425]

I remember her in Hollywood and our political differences wish I could meet her again and tell her she was 100 percent correct! Look at Hollywood now ! money never stops flowing in Texas no trash anywhere smh

[@6gunbeaufordiii514]

when i was a child, i used to hate Roseanne because of the intro to the show and her laugh but my mother loved the show....when i grew up and i became more mature, i now love Roseanne

[@theman946]

She pioneered Karen Face.

[@SusieQZee]

The laugh will forever be annoying but the show is great!

[@brooklynboiprod]

I hated that laugh too

[@davidhooper259]

There is a lot of gay for pay in LA and there are many producers gay to exercise their power over men in the industry. Eyes Wide Shut is very real.

[@williejack7935]

Documentary IMO mate

[@RenegadeRanga]

Arnold was one of the originals in the game. When he was body-building, he and other dudes in the old school went to parties. Rnold would disappear for a couple of hours and come back with an envelope of cash.

[@davidhooper259]

@@RenegadeRanga I want thumbs up your comment but that could imply something. Exercising your sexual prowess over anyone even you yourself aren’t gay is twisted beyond the pale. If you’re willing to be the bottom on these acts you are either gay, zero self dignity or a whore with a mouth or ass like warm bowl of water

[@DarksaberForce]

That's what almost cost Brendan Fraser and Terry Crews their careers. Terry is still doing okay but Brendan's career was damn near destroyed. If you grew up as a 90s kid he was one of your top stars but as the years pass you noticed he virtually disappeared from major movies since the 3rd Mummy and Journey to the Center of the Earth. Imagine my shock of Googling 2010s photos of him overweight and very short hair. Him winning the Oscar reminded everyone how much we missed him.

[@curtissimmons2287]

Thats why frank ocean said that term..eyes wide shut up

[@Val-qm9me]

Roseanne... a beautiful soul! Thank you! 😊

[@jimbodavis1944]

Roseanne is a complete gem.

[@DeepDishPizza]

If only she wasn’t opposite.

[@koryanderson2183]

True story: my brothers best friend growing up grew up to be a male model, he came to visit our family in his thirties and told us a very similar story about David Geffen… I immediately thought of that when you mentioned your story

[@MichelleLyn84]

I absolutely loved Roseanne growing up, it was like watching another family with a lot of drama lol 😂

[@user-ee1je2ds9s]

sometimes i wondered if my family was on the show LOL

[@strawberriesncandii]

A lot of people who go to these house parties all over KZbin and TikTok all say the same thing. No matter what color they are they always say that they see something that’s messed up. They always tell their audiences to avoid going to these parties. All these influencers on TikTok including Nessa said after their experience they chose to leave LA completely.

[@brendathomas7173]

I will go anywhere to see and hear Roseanne! She is so real, honest and funny. Hollywood hates that.

[@robzombie5928]

Id say Hollywood hates her because people like her in spite of them, funny is funny and they dont like that she succeeds with or without them.

[@javierdelgado1554]

No one gets a free pass in hollywood.

[@TheTopTurnchuckle]

She is so real-ly incoherent

[@ezekiel5687]

Look how much better she looks, and she seems mentally healthier and seems to be enjoying herself. Hollywood served it's time for her as she said , met her idols and her show did amazing. They still owe Roseanne for the cruelty they did to her

[@m.p.7075]

If Adam was as funny or charismatic as he believes himself to be this podcast would be a lot better.

[@1stdebunker]

He's gotten a lot better as of late from my observation. I disagree with him on nearly everything, but it seems as if he's learning a lot from PBD and developing into his own man. Good on him

[@nikobellic8627]

😅

[@QuckShadow485]

Yeah Adam is always cringe-worthy.

[@smashtoad]

I love the show, but I could not agree more. PBD is a force of nature, and he is two good co-hosts away from being a media titan. His co-hosts derail things as much as anything else, mostly with things that aren't funny or painfully obvious takes that Glenn Beck first espoused in 2010.

[@charlottemac7912]

Ha! I thought I was the only one who thought that... I wonder why Patrick is working with him 🤔

[@RebeccaKhan-fx7jf]

It's too bad that Sara Gilbert turned her back on you, Roseanne. I liked "Mama's Family" and Roseanne. Roseanne was so relatable and blue collar and loved the whole cast. I'm a fan of John Goodman, too. The show was so popular because the house wasn't a mansion, they seemed like ordinary people. I liked Roseanne better than Ray Romano's show. The personality of Roseanne came through naturally and it was binge worthy because it wasn't heavy. It had humor.

[@MyUserTubeAccount]

i love Roseanne, but come on, Everybody Loves Raymond was way funnier!

[@RebeccaKhan-fx7jf]

@@MyUserTubeAccountThis is a no drama zone. Not in my opinion was Raymond funnier.

[@strawberriesncandii]

This is the same thing Lucy Lawless did to Kevin Sorbo. Without the success of Hercules we all know Xena would had the reach it did initially.

[@jackb348]

Who cares. Sarah Gilbert is one of “them”.

[@RebeccaKhan-fx7jf]

@@jackb348 Yes and they need to be called on the carpet when it happens- just like I did.

[@CallousCoder]

I loved Roseanne as a skinny Dutch kid. It was so grounded, so real. The kids weren’t angels, they’d problems that all can relate to. And it was funny on a none dumb and derogatory way.

[@NancyMayne-]

Marilyn Monroe was treated so badly by people in the field, my heart breaks for her

[@strawberriesncandii]

And even in her death her corpse was surrounded by predators.

[@paulmartin9194]

I'm sure she could've walked away at any time. Just like all these 'victims' of the me too movement. They knew that was the price of fame and took it.

[@jessethepersiankitty2377]

​@@paulmartin9194as a MM of 35 years fan I do agree.

[@dre009]

@@paulmartin9194you try leaving and they show you why that’s not a good idea… aka extortion, blackmail, financial debts, and violent threats

[@user-lp9ou1hf4e]

what is weird is that they continue to abuse people.

[@cyn7869]

Love Roseanne! So glad she is out and about again.👍❤️

[@jasonmurdoch9936]

Rosanne is definitely a legend I watched her growing up and also her bit about George Carlin is extremely true up and watching him for well over 25 years and he is spit nothing but facts and being funny about it at the same time

[@thehonesttruth8808]

They need to seriously think about getting rid of Adam…always trying to be cool but comes off as uninformed and a douche…he’s the “Brendon Schaub” of this show

[@pawlpoche8736]

Well said! There’s a douche in every wood pile…

[@J3R3MI6]

I’d rather have him on…

[@winterrr-je4lj]

Agree! He is killing the show!

[@RyanPerrella]

That’s a scary Geffen story, to think that that was what it took to be in his films or recording contracts, makes me look at all the actors faces we see, how differently we would see them if we knew the methods they abide by to achieve their status.

[@tonisandoval6100]

Matthew Lawrence.. poor guy told a similar story of what happen to him to audition for a marvel film. So disgusting.

[@rogerroosterthepickychicks3035]

the dark dark glasses always means something

[@EFunkRock]

@@tonisandoval6100fortunately for him it worked out despite the chance he could’ve been blacklisted for saying no. It’s unfortunate but it’s reality.

[@RyanPerrella]

@@EFunkRock this is the double edge they throw at you, once propositioned, if you say no, now you get nothing ever. Very true, I know these beasts have blacklists, retribution feeds so much of this devilish culture.

[@madelainepetrin1430]

Think of how many said yes and got kicked to the curb!

[@goseemekah]

Patrick, THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!! Roseanne and Mrs. Diller are the 2 reasons why I have the courage to perform comedy ❤. Thank you so much for asking the best questions and thank you from the bottom of my heart for even having her on. It’s like I get to listen to my mentor give me advice. Much love, M3KAH

[@barbmiller9629]

Best show ever! Roseanne speaks the truth…love her💜

[@magic_fruit_bat5003]

There’s no business like show business

[@Colt45-kr8jq]

No business like hoe business

[@jamesibz]

Her voice is so unique

[@bennyanthro4891]

Love Roseanne, but you can see by the look on her face, she’s holding back when PBD asks the David Geffen question. Hollyweird is hollyweird for a reason.

[@dodgelandesman]

Funny how Roseanne was being called racist but when she's asked to think about the heros shes met the first two people who automatically come to mind are Richard Pryor and Dick Gregory

[@martelkartel7825]

I caught that myself.

[@billjohnsonpgc]

Fond memories of watching Roseanne growing up because my mom loved it. Miss you mama ❤️‍🩹

[@philipdraper7284]

This has been going on since the 1920s. Most of the old stars from Clark Gable to Rock Hudson utilized the casting couch for roles. It’s well documented and has been out there for decades.

[@javierdelgado1554]

Thanks for the comment...I think a lot of people think this is a fairly recent thing...when Hollywood has been wicked since its inception.

[@madelainepetrin1430]

Yes. Modeling is the same. They get these 14yo from Poland and Ukraine and abuse them. A few make it out ok, but how many are discarded and thrown away like garbage?

[@Horror_Film_Aficionado]

Rosanne is great

[@shaneb4923]

Roseanne Your As Real As It Gets!! Thank You For Standing Strong For The True American People!! STAY SHARP MY FRIEND. 🇺🇸TRUMP2024🇺🇸!!

[@crazycat1345]

Hey valuetainment you should get David Icke and Cathy O'Brien on your program.

[@llwc9435]

If you pay close attention to the names Pat mentions, you'll notice that they all have one thing in common. But everyone is afraid to talk about it publicly, even though that one common thing is responsible for Hollywood's morally depraved existence. That's just a fact.

[@JulianLife81]

Is this the P word or the J word?

[@mattng4707]

Who ya talking about I'm not from U.S

[@Jsizzle6809]

Yep. People have no idea. And consciously or subconsciously they’re scared to speak it out loud.

[@JulianLife81]

@@user-qq7wn7wb7w mmmhmmm..... I know.

[@jamesware8814]

The Untouchables

[@angelamalcomb1373]

Love this …. Keep finding these different people that speak the truth

[@TimeIsTiempo]

This really took the stress out of me. Like thinking about the good old days with close friends 😄

[@SnoopyReads]

Yeah the 80s were so much better, gays were in the closet and women knew their place, God Bless Reagan

[@30MinToNewOrleans]

I’ve heard some scary shit about Geffen before too but there’s a lot of info that’s scrubbed from the internet

[@dennisharry8408]

Love her. Saw her do stand up with Dice pre pandemic, her confidence was a little shaken but despite that she was still funny as hell!

[@mattymox86]

What's funny is the other day I was so frustrated after having a discussion with someone about the current world we live in and the idiotic ideologies we're supposed to blindly follow that I ended up backtracking to when I first started having opposing views to the standard p.c norm. It was totally her cancellation and how deplorable it was for her TV family to drop her like trash without any concern. I remember saying to myself as i read Sara Gilbert's response to it all "wow you f****ng thankless **** way to literally throw her under the bus!" When i would state this to others they all would look at me THE EXACT SAME WAY OUR IDIOTIC LEFT REPRESENTATIVES AND SHEEPLE do now to anyone who's level headed enough to ask "why" to anything regarding trans/gender ideology/allowing children to transition/ covid vaccine concerns. Basically any level headed question at all. Like i should have been ashamed of myself. Insane to think back on this now. Crazinees. Wow.

[@Djdestinee1978]

Respect to u homey for having one of the greatest on your pod cast..

[@lanemeyer9350]

I was excited to hear her answer then that guy Adam literally RUINED it for me. Why do they have him on this show, he’s such a rally killer

[@daleplatino]

That feeling when your ahole hurts but the lambo makes you forget about it for a minute.

[@Dan.50]

Hollywood has always ran like that AND it still runs like that.

[@r.c.l2569]

Roseanne was a staple in my house growing up. Such a different time, seems like a different universe now. Ty Ms. Barr. Up most Apperception ma’am.

[@AscendedAngel]

I like everything she's been saying since she started speaking out. My issue is that when I listen to her, she never details any negative personal experiences. For example - How does an unknown comic/actress suddenly get her own show on primetime network slot and get the massive support to be pushed into top spot? No one gets that push without being backed by a major player. And best believe that she would've had to do many favors to get that. I don't buy this story of her fighting her way in.

[@MyUserTubeAccount]

what male power player in Hollywood California was jacking off to her i ask you? i think they took a gamble on her that paid off?

[@norandmurr1432]

She wasn't "unknown". She was a sucessful stand up comic who did a pilot Hollywood thought would fail. As far as "negative personal experiences" they have all been dragged out in public and aired from her childhood abuse to her marriages to her relationships with co-workers. The public loved her....sometimes outliers make it in. She doesn't have many secrets at this point.

[@madelainepetrin1430]

Like she said, they didn't want her. 🤪 sometimes it pays not to be too beautiful (men and women).

[@brentgraham4065]

Im not telling. By by

[@faithhupy4983]

I love Roseanne since the first time I saw her on The Tonight Show I was in my early twenties then I feel so bad for what's happening to her I can't believe her family isn't getting together and getting her some mental health

[@ImEMOnotScene]

I heard those story so much that if I would bee an upcoming star, beliiiiiveee meee, I would have secret cameras and voice recordings all around me 24/7 going into those parties or to the "boss" room

[@edwardsanchez3708]

Geffen was in some sort of relationship with that actor Antin from The Last American Virgin.

[@joeychick9045]

Patrick bringing us common sense on a daily basis. God Bless you brother.

[@antoniann649]

Sensible citizens need to get jobs in the city councils, zoning boards, school boards, precincts, courts, election polls, legislators office and get federal jobs that pay well. Join local associations, attend meetings, become an activist and spend money on companies that value you as a consumer.

[@Clokes_]

Roseanne didn’t have to do sexual stuff because she was a comedian working the circuit. She wasn’t a hot starlet! All these attractive young women who we see on TV and movies did the “casting couch.” That’s just how it works.

[@sandpaper4483]

I like how he just drops David Geffen...lol

[@imawesome1822]

And he has no idea what he just did . RIP

[@linapagliari8003]

Love Roseanne a classy lady love her podcasts😁🇨🇦

[@shelleybeach-fp2kv]

Same here

[@ezekiel5687]

Her podcasts are the best lol

[@RenegadeRanga]

Does not surprise me that Geffen rolled this way in the slightest.

[@dragons_red]

Always love her for being the real deal.

[@michaelsmiley15]

All the horror that you hear about The business happened primarily in the 70s When it was right after you know Woodstock People were still living that lifestyle But it was something that became behind closed doors It was not wide spread like it used to be It really wasn't as wide spread as people think It was logistically everywhere but the overall business was not affected in that manner

[@adammiller5727]

We loved your show roseanne! America loves you

[@lrm215]

Love Rosanne to no filter no BS!!!

[@madelainepetrin1430]

I remember seeing Rosanne on TV, and I was shocked. It looks so real, I thought it was filmed in Northern Ontario.

[@terryhill4732]

I'm starting to look at Rosanna as the people's Champion the way she relates to the common Man

[@Robert-xy6mt]

Absolutely LOVE Roseanne!!

[@jppalm3944]

Great person

[@zagor1453]

I loved her show ,,she was great

[@Antonocon]

Loved watching Roseanne as a kid but back then my country was doing quite bad economically. I could never understand why Roseanne would say that she was poor. They seemed so rich to me. I couldn't distinguish between her lifestyle and other rich American lifestyles. Everyone in America just seemed to be loaded beyond my comprehension. I'm also talking of the early seasons in the late 80s.

[@jackb348]

Honestly Americans are rich compared to the rest of the world and most of them are so ungrateful it isn’t funny.

[@currency187]

Roseanne reminds me of my black auntie that always say this when I go to her house (what are you doing here when are you leaving) I’m like I love you too

[@joeferguson7915]

I love you Roseanne! Your are real people.

[@meatpuppet311]

2:54 we all love her for this

[@gregbowden1552]

She looks GREAT!!

[@javierdelgado1554]

She definitely "paid her dues" to make it in hollywood...she said it herself in a late night talk show...no one gets a free pass hollywood.

[@ghoponit]

Was looking for this comment

[@divinenation22]

Roseanne was a great show. Brilliant.

[@nunyabidness6820]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:13 🌎 Hollywood's historical connections to financiers and influences are discussed, including mentions of well-known figures like Rothschilds and Soros. 01:11 🎬 Disturbing accounts of compromising situations in Hollywood, where aspiring actors were asked to compromise their integrity for career opportunities, are shared. 03:29 💔 Tragic stories emerge of runaway youth in Hollywood falling prey to exploitation, revealing the darker aspects of the industry and the vulnerable individuals within it. 04:26 💪 Roseanne Barr's resilience and determination are highlighted as she overcame initial resistance from the network to eventually succeed in the television industry. 05:49 😄 Roseanne reflects on memorable encounters with her comedy idols, emphasizing the joy and pride she experienced during those moments. Made with HARPA AI

[@linda6987]

Roseanne you are a legend! I love you - always have always will! ✨🌟♥️🌟✨

[@rubenbustillos2454]

I loved watching this show when I was a kid.

[@SomeBodyIUsedToKnow8]

Hello

[@callumwestwood3591]

Aye man love George Carlin. George Carlin & Richard Pryor these guy were & still r Comedy Gods. Keep it Real PBD!! PEACE

[@shonacole2124]

Love love Rosanne always have. Rosanne show a classic

[@DJJ81]

Fuck yeah Adam. That’s the best response ever to that. Proud of you bro

[@mizzmia4407]

Roseanne is legendary

[@sitindogmas]

I don't smoke anymore but I could definitely get down on some Rodney Dangerfeild weed, that be epic AF

[@HushPuppy-sz4dp]

Hey

[@romans52345-cy3tq]

Dark Side?? I never believed there was a bright side

[@mathompson53187]

Nirvana kind of blew up out of nowhere -- there was a prominent scene in the PNW but they became the darlings of it relative to everything else, they were signed to Geffen ... makes me wonder a bit. Kurt wrote about wishing for 'more' homosexual tendencies and who knows what happened in private that set things in motion for their commercial explosion, could have been organic and could have been 'deals' made. Unfortunately Kurt didn't take to being big time too well in the end (but he seems to have wanted it at one point hence the signing with DGC in the first place).

[@beetalius]

Like it’s not happening now?

[@HIRISK]

so this is why Drake is #1

[@Jackson-e4k]

Damn Adam give it a rest

[@stretchstretch9112]

Lol...WAS DARK? HELL IT STILL IS....

[@bobtownsend9674]

"Super good looking guy. "6'5", blue eyes, white guy, all this stuff."

[@markadams2667]

Imagine how many pee pee’s Leonardo DeCrappio and Brad Armpit had 😮😮😮😬

[@susand5156]

Absolutely love Roseann and always have. It’s f’ing disgusting how no one from her show had her back.

[@DeepDishPizza]

Why would they have her back? She’s a horrible person. Maybe if she wasn’t opposite things would have been different.

[@Rizzbulla]

Roseanne the G.O.A.T

[@jamescurrie3445]

This woman is the truth!

[@ghoponit]

Didn’t Roseanne admit to selling her soul on a late night show?

[@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691]

She's right George Carlin was a genius on so many levels. His Jokes/trurhs are good even still.

[@user-ml8ku9zq6e]

Nice Roseanne🤙🍍🏝 7:02

[@KeithCindyPanama]

Glad my wife and I left the cat box- John Schneider

[@brentgraham4065]

I new I could

[@jimmaculate5]

Wow, what a thud. A dud. "Roseanne, tell us how dirty Hollywood is". "Uh, well, it didn't really affect me. I wasn't around it". Oh, sure. I hope the full interview is better.

[@tristonrosado1835]

Roseanne, one of the better times of my childhood. Thank you

[@tarawhite4419]

I stopped forgiving society yrs ago People don't have value to me anymore

[@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325]

That desk reminds me of Something I saw in the sky! I Still don't know what the hell it was! but the shape was like that!

[@IDWIE]

Rosanne was such a good show

[@DeepDishPizza]

Keyword “WAS”.

[@YoginiLindaMadani]

It is very elegant of him to say that he fancies Rosane.