The dialogue is STRONG & JUICY ..Watching GAME OF THRONES for the FIRST TIME~1x03 LORD SNOW

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@boldwulf879
@boldwulf879 2 жыл бұрын
Moderator's Note: Winter is coming, indeed my Lords and Ladies of many seasons! Young Lady Sofie is such a sweet summer child and we owe it to her to protect her innocence from spoilers that will taint her experience of the story that so captivated us through those many seasons. Through her reactions, we get to relive those moments again and thus need to refrain from talking about anything beyond the current episode. She does not mind comparing these scenes with those from the books. But, she does not want to hear about future episodes or seasons or character arcs. As you have seen, she definitely is too smart for her own good, so please do not add a lot of backstories. Allow the story to unfold for her the same way that it did for us. She will easily pick up the story without too much help. Thank you for your cooperation! 😊
@khosani1726
@khosani1726 2 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@JigInsane
@JigInsane Жыл бұрын
This was very well written and I applaud it.
@moonfisher
@moonfisher 2 жыл бұрын
I love that you appreciate the dialogue. So many reactors don’t pay attention to what is being said, and they miss out on a lot of great payoffs, callbacks, jokes, etc.
@gilbertallard306
@gilbertallard306 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Such a pleasure to watch her reactions because she really gets the show.
@johnnyskinwalker4095
@johnnyskinwalker4095 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed. the strength of Thrones is really the dialogues. (esp. in earlier seasons)
@paroxymal7688
@paroxymal7688 2 жыл бұрын
Yea same guys who would jump up and down when they see dragons in later seasons 😒😒
@fived9424
@fived9424 Жыл бұрын
@@paroxymal7688 nice spoil
@Tristan_Anderwelt
@Tristan_Anderwelt 2 жыл бұрын
12:40 That's why the nanny called Bran "summer child"... he doesn't know THE winter. Most lore questions that arise will be answered as the series progresses. I really like your reactions to GoT.
@ricmotta2495
@ricmotta2495 2 жыл бұрын
"should I trust these guys? Are they good or bad?" That is the essence of the entire show.
@Jacoc323
@Jacoc323 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly you have to be one of my favourite reactors to GOT, I know it's early but really like how you really appreciate the show and focus on the details instead of being all judgemental and extra which leads a lot of reactors to miss the point of a lot of things. Can't wait to follow you further on your GOT journey😁
@katdoghawk
@katdoghawk 2 жыл бұрын
Littlefinger and Varys are my favorites. Absolutely love them
@divinelangene6813
@divinelangene6813 2 жыл бұрын
Love lord baelish too
@painlord2k
@painlord2k 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, in the later seasons they suffer some form of dementia.
@menachemsalomon
@menachemsalomon 2 жыл бұрын
It took me a while to figure this out, but you might find this explanation useful: Honor counts for much in this medieval-style world. There's too much distance between places, and little possibility to verify any claims (yes, there are ravens, but no regular mail, and only lords have ravens), so great value is placed on the ability to trust someone else. Add to that that certain oaths are religious in nature, the duty taken on seen as sacred, so violating such an oath is also sacrilegious, almost blasphemy. So when someone swears a solemn oath to be a Knight of the Kingsguard, when he later breaks that oath to not only fail to protect that king but to actually kill him himself, then no matter the reason, he will have lost his credibility and honor in the eyes of many, to the extent that he will forever be known by the moniker Kingslayer. Others, more pragmatic, will choose to ignore this one time violation and choose to trust him still, or at least to make sure that self-interest will keep the kingslayer (mostly) trustworthy. Eddard Stark, of the North, is of the first sort. Honor is extremely important to the Northmen (we'll see that come up again and again), so while Ned had no problem waging war and rebelling against the previous king (Aeris Targaryen) for murdering his father, he is still horrified by the idea of Jaime Lannister, a member of the Kingsguard, helping him out by slaying that king. Robert Baratheon, however, is of the second sort. He doesn't quite trust Jaime, but retains him as a member of the Kingsguard because of his political connections, (Jaime is the queen's brother, and the Lannisters are a powerful family), and after all Jaime helped him become king by having killed the previous one. As for how Jaime sees himself, I can only paraphrase another great fantasy writer and say WAFO - watch and find out.
@tariizm1500
@tariizm1500 Жыл бұрын
honor is extremely important to Northmen? Boltons left the chat and whole North left the chat... untill Queen Alysanne Targaryen rape was legal in the North (a First Men law/tradition if im not wrong its called first night)... how the hell honor is important to them? whats their difference with Dothrakis?
@menachemsalomon
@menachemsalomon Жыл бұрын
@@tariizm1500 You're conflating honor with morality on the second point. As to your first point, indeed those who fly the Flayed Man on their banner have neither. And the other Northern houses don't quite respect them or consider them paragons of virtue, either.
@tariizm1500
@tariizm1500 Жыл бұрын
@@menachemsalomon im talking about first night right it is a First Men tradition just like Dothrakis traditions not to mention Northerners are descendant of First men like i said how the hell they are honorable or good even Starks are not bcz they ruled them if they were good they'd banned this tradition in the first place but it is not bother them...
@menachemsalomon
@menachemsalomon Жыл бұрын
@@tariizm1500 I don't recall any Northern house, except the Boltons, practicing _droit du seigneur._ Certainly not at the time the story takes place. When I used _honor,_ I was specifically talking about honesty. Rape is a moral wrong, but it has nothing to do with truthfulness or falsehood. You are, as I said, conflating honor with morality.
@tariizm1500
@tariizm1500 Жыл бұрын
@@menachemsalomon actually you are wrong in old days even in our modern world its called honor for example if 'you' are rape someone especially in Asia countries like Turkey, middle east etc they will kill you bcz of honor 'you' basically attacked/dirt their honor even in ASOIAF universe small folk attacked/assasinated some of these lords whom dirt their honor if they kill they believe they rescued their 'honor' btw sorry for my bad english but i assume you understand me and like i said it was First Men tradition not just Boltons... we know Umbers doing that too... and there is a lot lord s from different houses we dont know im sure a woman talked about her story to queen Alysanne was raped by the one Stark lord...
@MrDcwithrow
@MrDcwithrow 2 жыл бұрын
One important thing to keep in mind when watching Game of Thrones - Nearly every line of dialog has meaning and purpose. Sometimes it takes several seasons before something someone said comes back to play a part in the story and even the most innocent and inconsequential line can come into play later on.
@crunchy6931
@crunchy6931 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction! My favorite thing about GoT was the music and dialogue as well. It's so rich and full and beautifully written. Just remember these episodes are each like mini movies. A lot of time passes within each episode. Considering the pregnancy, it's safe to assume within three episodes at least 4-12 months has transpired. Time is slow but fast for viewing.
@zegh8578
@zegh8578 2 жыл бұрын
That final moment with Ned staring, I always interpreted as Ned realizing in that moment, that *that* - the sounds, the clangs of metal, the death, the ptsd - it's all in her cards, and his face goes from a proud smile, to a worried frown. It is also a reinforcement of him respecting her personality, since he could simply just cancel the sword-training, and force her to focus on not-swords, but instead he accepts her new fate, with a grimly worried expression on his face, his horrible memories of war flashing through his mind.
@CoRLex-jh5vx
@CoRLex-jh5vx 2 жыл бұрын
Well, if she's already started learning, stopping would just make her less likely to survive the started drama
@jessicafoster2699
@jessicafoster2699 2 жыл бұрын
I love watching reactions to GOT, it's like experiencing the emotions of the show all over again Really enjoyable videos!
@esc0bert
@esc0bert 2 жыл бұрын
The seasons last for years in this world. This summer was like 10 years for instance. So a long summer usually means a long winter is coming.
@painlord2k
@painlord2k 2 жыл бұрын
Actually, it is worse yet. The length of Winter and Summer are practically random. What RRM doesn't account for is where the selective pressure a similar environment would push the development of human society. It is just hinted on the account of Littlefinger telling they have food reserves for seven years of winter. Just the deposits for such quantity of food would be absurd and the technology to preserve it very advanced compared to the rest.
@Blue-qr7qe
@Blue-qr7qe 2 жыл бұрын
Sean Bean is, indeed, a very charismatic and engaging actor. Agree. The dialog in this series is so finely crafted. Smooth as satin. But filled with hints and presaging. Make a note, here: when you're done with GOT, there's an HBO series with equally remarkable dialog (crudely Shakespearean) set in a frontier boomtown in America's gold rush days. DEADWOOD. The characters are, as here, deeply 3-dimentional. Loads of action, drama, scheming - great storytelling with actual historical events and personalities woven through. No one has jumped on this yet, but i'm pretty certain you'd enjoy it. You're doing great, here - Carry on.
@Haakonisak
@Haakonisak 2 жыл бұрын
Ian Mc Shane(wait for him) and Timothy Olyphant(and Robin Weigert as CJ) are reasons enought to throw oneself into dark and dirty Deadwood, one of the best series ever made, almost on par with Band of Brothers. Even though it is a western it is made for people who normally don't like westerns as well as western lovers.
@Asnazu
@Asnazu 2 жыл бұрын
The point you made about the bastards' surnames is on point - high-born people have surnames (Stark, etc.), commoners have only first names, ilegitimate children of high born people have the special surnames (Snow for the North, Waters for Kingslanding and the lands around it, Stone for the Vale, etc) - and it definitely brands and excludes them because high-born people look down on them and commoners see them as privileged assholes...they don't belong anywhere... About Jaime and Ned - I think that Ned doesn't have problem with Jamie killing the King (after all he killed his father and brother and Ned was already rebelling against him), but what bothers him is the fact that Jamie killed someone he swore to protect with his life. For Ned it's a question of honor not justice ...also he worries about Robert - Jaime's already killed one King what will stop him from killing another?
@Alejojojo6
@Alejojojo6 2 жыл бұрын
No, all have surnames. Surnames like Snow, Waters etc... are for Bastards. So everyone can tell you are a bastard with that surname. At least in the books.
@jcompton8507
@jcompton8507 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alejojojo6 Asnazu is right. In the books, only bastards from noble men and women have the bastard names (Snow, Sand, etc.). For example, since Gendry's mother is a common woman, he doesn't have a bastard name. He's only Gendry (though fans tend to refer to "Gendry Waters.") That said, it's not always consistent and kind of depends on if the father recognizes the bastard. Robert's first bastard (when he was a teenager in the Vale) was supported by Jon Arryn and given the last name "Stone." However, if I remember correctly her father was a common man who was prosperous and respected in the community, so Jon Arryn may have given her so much attention and support because of that? That said, Jon seemed to continue to clean up after Robert after he became King and provide for all of Robert's bastard to some extent.
@RamsayboltonSnow
@RamsayboltonSnow 2 жыл бұрын
Dialogue only gets better throughout seasons 2-7 ur in for the best series ever made
@katdoghawk
@katdoghawk 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh my sweet summer child!" Yes... THIS is where it comes from :)
@MrWillsonx
@MrWillsonx 2 жыл бұрын
You're really out here reigniting my love for Game of Thrones, it's been a while, almost forgot what it's like, feels good to be back so thank you
@brittanyofhouseblackwood
@brittanyofhouseblackwood 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the dialogue comes straight from the books, which is why the first 4 seasons are sooo good! You should read the novels....it's written like poetry. Truly awe inspiring!
@hardybryan
@hardybryan 2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing watching this show take its time. I haven't seen these early seasons in years.
@manbearpig7359
@manbearpig7359 2 жыл бұрын
Should have been done over 10,seasons hey
@drbrunch
@drbrunch 2 жыл бұрын
For all his posturing Jaime actually wants Ned's respect. You can see Ned's words cut deep in the scene between them.
@ancatdal
@ancatdal 2 жыл бұрын
Daenerys is such a survivor! She somehow manages to make her awful situation livable by molding her relationship to Drogo, and how she perceives it.
@gorubz
@gorubz 2 жыл бұрын
I admire your way of analyzing each character, the dialogues and the music, you are very observant and you know how to express what you see, well done.
@michaelsweeney5958
@michaelsweeney5958 2 жыл бұрын
Episode 1 I was lost but I had to watch episode 2 to find out what happened to Bran. Episode 2 pulled me in with who tried to kill Bran, Episode 3 is the one that got me hooked .. I needed MORE !! You are so right about the dialogue and how it grabs you and leaves you wanting more !! The history, the dynamic relationships, and what may happen next !! ... Better understanding of the players and what the tie-ins are or could be. Keep going Sweet Summer Child your very insightful.
@coreydaprince
@coreydaprince 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@victorsixtythree
@victorsixtythree 2 жыл бұрын
One small correction - "Snow" is the name given to bastards from The North, not just from Winterfell. Each region has it's own name for bastards who were born there (so you might hear names like Flowers, Hill, Pyke, Sand, Stone, Storm...)
@bill.godwin-austen
@bill.godwin-austen 2 жыл бұрын
Correct on the regional bastard names, but there is one additional factor... it's not just any bastards, only those fathered by a nobleman, and then only to give token recognition of parentage. Bastards of commoners, and those not acknowledged by their "noble" father are nameless.
@jcompton8507
@jcompton8507 2 жыл бұрын
@@bill.godwin-austen Mostly correct. However, the naming is a little more fluid than that. For example, typically the bastards of noble women are also given bastard names regardless of the father. So to be given a bastard name, you must have at least one noble parent, but it can be a mother or father. (Usually both, as the noblemen don't always - or often? - recognize their bastards with common women. Typically, they only acknowledge their bastards if there is some kind of advantage [ like needing an heir; e.g. Roose needing Ramsey] or if they are particularly honorable [Ned-level honorable]. Also, most of the time, the bastards are named for where their mother is from or where they are physically born, rather than where their father is from. But even that is fluid. The "rules" aren't always followed to a tee. e.g. In the book, Gendry doesn't have a last name. Though most fans call him Waters. In contrast, Robert's first bastard (that he fathered in the Vale as a teenage ward of Jon Arryn) is named Mya Stone. Part of me wonders if she was only acknowledged and given a bastard name because Jon Arryn forced the situation. Perhaps he felt responsible since Robert sired her under Jon's watch? Jon A. ends up supporting her over the years for Robert... That said, I think I vaguely remember Ned reminiscing on how Robert doted upon Mya when she was first born??
@drumaticpageofmusic4148
@drumaticpageofmusic4148 2 жыл бұрын
I never paid too much attention to dialogue until this show. After this, it made me appreciate dialogue more. Also, the “War for Cersei’s C***” line made me spit out my drink 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@irishcreamsicle
@irishcreamsicle 2 жыл бұрын
New watcher and subscriber here! Just binged the first three of your reactions and I’m so impressed on how much you’re absorbing, predicting, understanding , and appreciating. You’re a Thronie already. I can’t wait for your next vid!
@Mnkeys
@Mnkeys Жыл бұрын
Sofie ik these are old videos but you're amazing and i love the videos!
@bullish3584
@bullish3584 2 жыл бұрын
Love that you pay attention to the dialog. There is actually a lot that gets revealed through snippets of dialog over time. Backstory, future events and character development is ingrained in it. Hope you keep enjoying the show and pray you avoid spoilers.
@langdalepaul
@langdalepaul 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think Ned’s sombre introspection, watching Arya learning to fight, was PTSD, but more a sudden flash of insight of what Arya will become and the dangers that await her in the world. She’s being forced to grow up very fast, and he is afraid for her.
@chaotic7cam
@chaotic7cam 2 жыл бұрын
He was imagining her in a real battle, and she kept pretend 'dying', but she'd be dead if that was a real battle.
@sarahaimwithmoore
@sarahaimwithmoore 2 жыл бұрын
The "winter" they're talking about would in our estimate be like a mini ice age? This current "summer" they've been in has been unusually long, so the maester fearing that the coming winter will be just as long makes sense. I love your reactions, thank you for a great video.
@painlord2k
@painlord2k 2 жыл бұрын
Seasons in GoT have pretty random length. Practically, a long winter would be comparable to an ice age. The Long Night is when the WW fought against the humans and the legend says decades. The difference with our Ice Age is our slowly fall and increase in temperature. GoT can be frosty for 9 years and the next 9 years can be hot like summer.
@jdhannum3794
@jdhannum3794 2 жыл бұрын
Your reactions are precious, looking forward to more. Please, complete the series.
@Raminagrobisfr
@Raminagrobisfr 2 жыл бұрын
The subplot "whose dagger is this?" is a bit stupid. Nobody would hire a paid assassin, and arm him with a personnal, precious and recognizable weapon.
@arrv544
@arrv544 2 жыл бұрын
That was because the dialogues are from the books
@geraldtodd6633
@geraldtodd6633 2 жыл бұрын
Good reactions. And good observations. You made a comment that you really liked the dialogue, well I'm glad you listen to them. There are many good conversations in this program and pretty much everything being said means something at one time or another. The writers had the books to use as a guide and they used the books well. The author of the books George R.R. Martin was a wonderful story teller and his dialogue in the books is very long, it is shortened for TV. But listen, watch, comment and enjoy, a lot of us will be there with you.
@FireflyMALcontent
@FireflyMALcontent 2 жыл бұрын
It is interesting that you talk about the dialogue. I also think it is fantastic, but also think that is one of the reasons I love Buffy so much, the dialogue is intoxicating at times
@youth5081
@youth5081 2 жыл бұрын
arya fighting like a little angel is so cute
@nebulous8389
@nebulous8389 2 жыл бұрын
The most wholesome show you'll ever come across. :)
@XxPanderosxX
@XxPanderosxX 2 жыл бұрын
Isnt a spoil But a fun fact : 👀 The Arya’s dancer master Is a real dancer master in his life aha
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan 2 жыл бұрын
Not having reacted to reactions of this series as much as _Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel,_ and other such regulars of mine, I am finding it harder than with those shows (and even movies) to not say something spoiler-ish.
@sorchamiana
@sorchamiana 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you keep calling them Blue Walkers 😂🤣😍🥰 this is such a mood and I'm here for it! Also, thank you for pointing out Ned's progressive parenting and fair treatment of Arya in respect to her ambitions! I've often judged Ned harshly based on the first impression in Episode One of him beheading a man for being so terrified and traumatized that he literally could not bring himself to uphold his duty and I felt that was unfair and cruel, so I think a lot of his better decisions he made later on went over my head and you helped me to see and appreciate his better side, so I'm really grateful for that 🥰 I sometimes forget (even a writer) that every character (and more importantly every person in the real world) is well rounded, like a circle, in that if you only look at it from one side...all you see is a straight line...but when you shift your perspective and look at them from a different viewpoint, there is always so much more that we didn't see before! 🙏🥰💕
@dallassukerkin6878
@dallassukerkin6878 2 жыл бұрын
The joy of a good reactor is that they help you re-watch something as if it is the first time you have seen it :). I subscribed on seeing your Episode 1 watch and you keep on impressing :bow of respect:. The characterisation and dialogue in GoT is stellar, at least in the first half when the show runners were drawing on the true expertise of the author. I confess I read the story back when it was just a trilogy and I had to force myself to finish it because it seemed to show the very worst of humanity and anyone who was decent and good suffered and died, which is not what I wish from my fiction. But the first four or five seasons of the TV series were *so* good that my late wife and I could not wait so see it each week. Enjoy it and we will enjoy it with you.
@boldwulf879
@boldwulf879 2 жыл бұрын
Please be more careful with your comments not to talk about the future episodes or seasons. Thank you. - Moderator
@g.k.2400
@g.k.2400 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that they use steel sword sounds for when Aria and CF fight with wood swords.
@darth856
@darth856 2 жыл бұрын
While the seasonal cycle is very different from our own, this world is similar to ours in one other aspect: weather depends on geography. King's landing down south will always be warmer than the north. The north is basically never warm, not even during the summer. So winters tend to get really cold there. Oh, and up beyond the wall there is pretty much always snow, regardless of season.
@Necrothep
@Necrothep 2 жыл бұрын
10:31 "Vaserys is way more annoying than the brat prince" I'm placing a note to myself here.
@babaleca1110
@babaleca1110 2 жыл бұрын
10:13 girl, just wait
@jaylancaster5419
@jaylancaster5419 2 жыл бұрын
Snow isn't just the name of bastards born in Winterfell ... it's the name given to bastards across the North ... it's a regional name. Each region has different names for their bastards. The North - Snow The Vale - Stone The Riverlands - Rivers The Westerlands - Hill The Crownlands - Waters Dorne - Sand The Iron Islands - Pyke
@mercurydylan899
@mercurydylan899 2 жыл бұрын
First 4 seasons of GoT were just transcendent. God tier stuff.
@upursanctum
@upursanctum 2 жыл бұрын
Great reaction videos. You are interested and ask all the right questions. Make note of these questions as it will be worth it later on. Edit: not many people notice the dialogue. Can't wait to see your reaction to the spider's and little finger's conversation
@ponyfest.ph1132
@ponyfest.ph1132 2 жыл бұрын
Valar morghulis... welcome to the realm sofie ...
@manbearpig7359
@manbearpig7359 2 жыл бұрын
If you love the dialogue and are a reader then give the books a go. They are beautifully written.
@Yakerina
@Yakerina 2 жыл бұрын
notliterally did this hilarious series titled Ask Westeros. Spoilers galore in there, but I'm reasonably certain only for the first three seasons.
@thecockerel86
@thecockerel86 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting watching the change in your facial expression as we watch Arya going through her sword fight training along with Ned. From the pure joy of watching a young child starting to pursue a passion of sword fighting to the realisation that the real thing is brutal and terrible. The dialogue in the show is good because the dialogue and prose from the source material, A Song of Ice and Fire, is excellent. The showrunners have rich material to work with.
@sld1776
@sld1776 2 жыл бұрын
"He really has a point." Yes, he has a point, that would be better for the crown. All Kings thought that. The problem is that if a King tries to do that, ALL powerful Lords rebel, and the King is overthrown.
@Amandor2011
@Amandor2011 2 жыл бұрын
@@ItsMeBarnaby depends on which historical period we're looking on GoT universe is set around 13-14th century and at that time absolute monacrhy wasn't a thing, kings were dependant of their lords support and also an influence of the church That time is feudalism at its strongest so kings still have lots of power but they have to consider what nobles think, especially because of interconnection of european royalty and noble houses So royal army just to fight other lords and not some huge foreign enemy would be a suicide
@robertcurtis8585
@robertcurtis8585 2 жыл бұрын
On Daenerys and dragons: Valyria was a super magical slave empire, the people found a way to control dragons. The Targaryens fled Valyria before it was destroyed and so they have the blood of these mages and dragons inside them. Also every season, not just winter, last for years.
@believeat5708
@believeat5708 2 жыл бұрын
Lady Sofie you so WITTY! So CLEVER and very observant you never stop impressing me hehe WELL DONE!! loving your reactions😅
@MrDcwithrow
@MrDcwithrow 2 жыл бұрын
Members of the Small Council - No spoilers *Littlefinger* (Lord Baelish) is master of coin, the kingdom's treasurer. *Varys* is the master of whisperers, basically the intelligence service. Varys is a eunuch and a foreigner and has spies everywhere. *Grand Maester Pycelle* is the keeper of knowledge and learning. Maesters are trained at The Citadel in Old Town (the first settlement on Westeros). The Citadel is like a university and great library, they train maesters who are then sent to the courts of lords and various castles and keeps. We've met two other maesters,, Maester Luwen is the maester in Winterfell and the guy who was with Ned and Catelyn in their bed chamber when they got word that Jon Arryn was murdered and that the Lannisters were suspects and Maester Aemon, who is the maester for the Night's Watch at The Wall. He's the old white haired guy. *Ned Stark,* The Hand of the King, is head of the Small Council and is the king's right hand man and runs the government, he also speaks for the king when he is away. Also sitting in was *Renly Baratheon,* the king's youngest brother. *Barriston Selmy,* as head of the King's Guard, and *Stannis Baratheon,* the king's middle brother, who we haven't met yet, would also be considered members of the Small Council.
@JayTor2112
@JayTor2112 2 жыл бұрын
If you're interested in the history and backstories, I'd watch the "histories and lore" episodes after each season. They came on the DVDs/blu-ray releases of each season. They don't need to be edited down for reactions either, and have no spoilers for future seasons. They are all narrated by actors in the show.
@Kbella0909
@Kbella0909 2 ай бұрын
You are so smart. My 1st time watching this a lot of things went right over my head lol
@janeldavis905
@janeldavis905 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate how thrown you are by Dany and Khal Drogo suddenly seeming happy and in love. This is why so many book readers hated that HBO turned their first night together into a rape. Their relationship moving forward doesn't make as much sense if it started with him raping her on their wedding night. Great reaction as always, Sofie! Thanks for sharing with us ❤
@nicoleb1581
@nicoleb1581 2 жыл бұрын
But historically, the wedding night being a rape wasn’t that far off from the reality. Women weren’t allowed to have casual contact with men outside their family. Engagements were usually determined by their male relatives. Women weren’t given any sexual education prior to the wedding night. And if you were lucky you might have met a few times under supervision… and the custom of consummation being witnessed was common. It wasn’t the recipe for a romantic consensual wedding night. Consent wasn’t even something women were afforded as far as their husbands were concerned
@annaarwen4345
@annaarwen4345 2 жыл бұрын
Even in the books Dany describes her first weeks/months as not consensual. She describes the pain and depression she experienced from it.
@jasonrd316
@jasonrd316 2 жыл бұрын
@@annaarwen4345 Exactly. The first time wasn't like depicted in the shows, but the after that it was for a time. The show only does this to emphasize how she changes her fate and decides to not be a victim and take control, but relay it in a way that fits the season and episode length better.
@janeldavis905
@janeldavis905 2 жыл бұрын
@@annaarwen4345 Admittedly, it's been a long time since I read the book, but I don't remember Dany feeling like Drogo was raping her. I do remember her being depressed, as you mention, and I remember her wishing she had more of a connection with Drogo because he'd just come home at night, fuck her, then fall asleep; but there's a big difference between wishing you were connecting with your husband as you're fucking and wishing your husband would stop raping you all the time. Like I said, though, it's been a long time since I read it! If you can direct me to any relevant passages that contradict me, I'll be happy to revisit them.
@janeldavis905
@janeldavis905 2 жыл бұрын
@@nicoleb1581 This is all true, not only historically, but sadly, even in many cultures today. My complaint is not about the historicity of the rape scene, however, but the sudden turn from a relationship where he thinks it's ok to rape her as she's crying to a happy, devoted, loving couple. While there have always been, and sadly still are, many couples that start their lives together with rape, I highly doubt those couples have a healthy, respectful relationship only a few months later. I feel like the sudden switch invalidates the trauma she (and many women like her) would go through in that situation. Thanks for sharing your thoughts! It's always good to hear other's perspectives 😊
@robertcurtis8585
@robertcurtis8585 2 жыл бұрын
Bastards born of Northern Noblemen are named Snow, each region of Westeros has their own specific bastard name. These names are not given to commoner bastards because commoners usually don't have names anyway so it matters less
@adamyoung6797
@adamyoung6797 2 жыл бұрын
“Every lord has his own men, this leads to civil war.” Civil war is a good thing. It’s what protects you from horrible kings
@helgar791
@helgar791 2 жыл бұрын
Understand again, that members of these ruling families have a long history with one another. Some of these histories lasting many generations. These people know each other very well, and often they seem to speak in a kind of code, when in reality they're speaking from a position of shared history and familiarity. Often it is what they are not saying that has more importance than what they are.
@roro_thatsme
@roro_thatsme 2 жыл бұрын
the reason why viserys always says things about dragons is bc their family sigil, the targaryen family, has the three headed dragon symbol. their family is the last of their race, and their linked to “dragons” if u will. the targaryens are the blood of old valyria, the greatest & oldest empire of that world. though it perished in tragic even called the doom, and the targaryens were the last of their kind.
@belleann
@belleann 2 жыл бұрын
i can’t wait for more episodes with you, im def tuning in!! 🤗💗
@Orimthekeyacolite
@Orimthekeyacolite 2 жыл бұрын
Btw, most people in medieval times wouldn't have last names at all, it's just Jack and Jill from Jackoff Hill. Family names are only for nobility. So as much as being a Snow, Rivers or Storm puts a chip on your shoulder, it still means you're slightly above the average person in status and can go places in life.
@Fsindu
@Fsindu 2 жыл бұрын
The Dialog between Ned and Jaimie in the throneroom is about that Jamie is part of the Kingsguard, and was already part of the guard of the former King Aerys, and he is named Kingslayer cause he murdered the King he sworn to protect as part of his Kingsguard. Thats one part why Ned has no respect towards Jaimie, honor and stuff. It doesnt rly matter that Aery was mad and made decisions that made hitler look like a child. The part with the Dragons, Eggs and that Visery calls himself the dragon, has to do with their family. The Targaryens where riding dragons when they conquereed Westeros and the banner has a 3 headed dragon on it. The eggs where basicly a fitting present for Daeny, simple as it is.
@sam_c95
@sam_c95 2 жыл бұрын
When Viserys is told to walk instead of having a horse it's an even deeper insult than it looks: the Dothraki are true horsemen - their entire way of life is horse-related, their god is a horse, they live on horses, they eat horses, everything is horses. To not be riding a horse is seen as very low in society, basically a slave, and the whole khalasar can see Viserys' shame.
@cmo9400
@cmo9400 2 жыл бұрын
I love that your picking up all the shades of grey. A lot of people just miss it.
@thefatman2780
@thefatman2780 2 жыл бұрын
HOPE YOU STICK WITH IT. ITS A DAMN GOOD SHOW. I WISH YOU GOOD FORTUNE IN THE WARS TO COME
@robertcurtis8585
@robertcurtis8585 2 жыл бұрын
Jaime killed the Mad King after Robert's victory, in his rebellion against said king, was basically already won.
@BardOfAndromeda
@BardOfAndromeda 2 жыл бұрын
The winter before this summer was probably not the one that lasted 3 or 4 years. Tyrion said that it was the winter in which he was born that lasted this long. Tyrion is in his mid-30s in Season 1. :) Ned doesn't respect Jamie because Jamie served the Mad King for years, allowing and even helping him in his tyranny, and only stabbed him in the back when there was a rebellion going on. In other words, Jamie served the Mad King 'when serving was safe', i.e. when he wouldn't be held accountable for it. :)
@SoFieReactsTV
@SoFieReactsTV 2 жыл бұрын
Hello everyone. I’m looking for a moderator. Any volunteers ? 😁
@boldwulf879
@boldwulf879 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to be a moderator for you. I have watched all the episodes and read all the books. I can help keep you innocent of spoilers. I have watched your reactions for a long time. We both have loved Kim Sohyang!
@SoFieReactsTV
@SoFieReactsTV 2 жыл бұрын
Great ! You are now 😊
@boldwulf879
@boldwulf879 2 жыл бұрын
@@SoFieReactsTV Fantastic. I'm looking forward to it.
@limofootball
@limofootball 2 жыл бұрын
@@boldwulf879 Beat me to it!! Good luck to you.
@boldwulf879
@boldwulf879 2 жыл бұрын
@@limofootball Is there anything wrong with having more than one moderator? I don't think so.
@Nicamon
@Nicamon 2 жыл бұрын
*Dany:* 10:05 - 10:07 *Literally ANY AND EVERYONE ELSE:* 10:07 - 10:12 14:49 - 14:52 LOL. I used to call her Khaleesi all the time because I could not remember her actual name!😄🤍💙It took me a long time before I learned to call her Daenerys!❤‍🔥
@thebloodyhound9098
@thebloodyhound9098 2 жыл бұрын
Viserys and Daenerys are from House Targaryen, which used to rule before the Baratheons (King Robert is their 2nd cousin btw!). Their house sigil is a three headed dragon, and they used to control dragons in the past, but the deagons died 150 years before the start of GoT. They're supposed to be special and magical (with purple and bright blue eyes in the books), so they love incest bc it keeps the blood pure. Jaime Lannister killed Aerys II Targaryen (The Mad King), who was Dany and Viserys's dad.
@thebloodyhound9098
@thebloodyhound9098 2 жыл бұрын
The Mad King burned the father and brother of Ned Stark alive, after Dany's brother Rhaegar kidnapped Ned's sister Lyanna (who was engaged to Robert). Ned, Robert, Hoster Tully (Catelyn's dad) and Jon Arryn (who raised Ned and Robert) rose up against the Targaryens, and Cersei and Jaime's father Tywin helped them in the end (he was The Hand of The King to Aerys II)
@invadertifxiii
@invadertifxiii Жыл бұрын
as a kid i was taunted about being a bastard but multiple people so when i was taunted in the group homes i snapped
@neospock5034
@neospock5034 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent observations, especially about the well crafted dialogue and different visual aesthetics between the north and south. But beware, Westeros is a dangerous place where no one is safe.
@nostrum6410
@nostrum6410 2 жыл бұрын
the rotational axis of the planet is wonky because there's no moon. nothing spoilery just I don't remember ever seeing a moon
@larqven0192
@larqven0192 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, seasons last for years. Precisely how this works agriculturally and such I'm not sure, I suspect that weather does change through the year, but the overall weather fluctuates over several years. 'Summer' being for several years of warm or moderate temperatures, 'Winter' being usually just a few years of cold weather where agriculture is impossible. It might still be possible to grow some crops in the deep south or on some other lands on other continents, but for the most part winter is a time of hunger. "Summers can last for years, winters can last a lifetime", as a blurb once read. Not that winters are very long, but without crops, food will often run out and make winter a 'lifetime' as the people starve. Winter is therefore a BIG deal for most of the continent of Westeros; but especially in the North, where frosts might happen and snow can fall even in 'summer', and winters might indeed choke the land with snowfall. Winter is especially dreaded in the North. Jaime betrayed his vows, which really upset things in a knightly honor sort of way, especially for the Kingsguard who are supposed to be on a higher level. Knights are supposed to be morally better than just 'skilled fighters'; but the differences between ideals and reality is an ongoing theme. Ned is angry because Jaime betrayed his vows, but also because if he was going to do so, why not do so when it might have saved Ned's father and brother? (and others?). Also, the moment Jaime killed the mad king was when it was most suspiciously advantageous to him (and the Lanisters). I won't explain the whole thing as it might be a spoiler, but Jaime was caught between conflicting loyalties.
@imlariondurand4479
@imlariondurand4479 2 жыл бұрын
In this fictional world, every season last for years. For example, they can have a 6 years long summer and then a 4 years long winter. Imagine a 4 years long winter for the farmers, it's horrible so they must stock provitions during summer. In the books Drogo didn't rape Daenerys in their wedding night, so their relationship doesn't started that way in the books. That makes more sense with the present development that you see in this episode. Every bastard has a lastname reffering the kingdom that they are born. The bastards of The North (not only Winterfell) are name Snow, the bastards of the Riverlands (were Catelyn family rules) are name Rivers, the bastards in the Westlands (the Lannister's kingdom) are name Hill and so for the other kingdoms. What Ned did with Arya, giving her a sword teacher was something horrible to do "she's a lady!!" Haha in the books is said that he hide it from everyone saying she was having actual dance lessons. That's why he hired a foreing teacher. I watched this show a couple of times but i'm really enjoying it watched again with you. Can't wait to see your reactions to the next episodes.
@itachi2816
@itachi2816 2 жыл бұрын
From what I can see you are already in season 4, so I will talk about that. The thing about Ned judging Jaime for killing the Mad King is because Jaime was sworn to protect the mad king as part of his royal guard, however he betrayed and killed the king shortly before Robert and Ned arrived to take the throne (which already was practically guaranteed, at that point in the war the Mad King had no chance of turning the tables and winning the war). According to Jaime's oaths, he should have fought to the death to protect the King, which means he would die along with the Mad King, unless the King decided to surrender. So Ned thinks that Jaime betrayed his oaths and killed the Mad King to save himself and not have to die when the Palace was taken by them (which at this point, knowing you're in season 4, you've already heard Jaime's side saying that this is not the truth, that he betrayed and killed the Mad King to protect his father and the thousands of people who lived in Kingslanding). Thats why Ned says something like "You served your king well, when serving him was safe" when talking to Jaime on that moment.
@SmellyBones
@SmellyBones 2 жыл бұрын
Not a spoiler: The cerealized story of Bran the Breakfast shows us that he has a lot of moral fiber.
@Chapterhouse86
@Chapterhouse86 5 ай бұрын
The reason why the dialogue is so good is because George R.R. Martin is a genius and the showrunners basically copy pasted his book to the script.
@gdbssa
@gdbssa 3 ай бұрын
You should read his sci fi. Its great 😃
@laffingist218
@laffingist218 2 жыл бұрын
it's amazing becauuuuse.... *oprah voice* IIIIIIT'S COMPLICATED AND HUMAAAAAAN!!!!
@plottwisted172
@plottwisted172 2 жыл бұрын
I will they the dialog tends to be the strongest when either quoting the books directly or when the plot is following the books. I love the look Ned gives at the end. I think he is thinking of Aryia in danger and is afraid. He is trying to be progressive and let her train but he is still deeply worried
@aymanimdadrajkhowa5101
@aymanimdadrajkhowa5101 2 жыл бұрын
Cannot wait for next reaction vedio
@ajvanmarle
@ajvanmarle 2 жыл бұрын
Ned's problem is that he sees everything in black & white. Jaime was sworn to serve the king, so what he did was treason. As far as Ned is concerned, that's all there is to it. Now, as it turns out, Jaime actually had a very good reason to do what he did (*no spoilers*) and his tragedy is that he is constantly being insulted for what, from his perspective, was the best thing he ever did.
@GlennShook
@GlennShook 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of juicy... couldn’t help it. Love your reactions to this just found your channel keep it up. Great show. Dialogue is very important and great. Enjoy.
@wirebrushproductions1001
@wirebrushproductions1001 2 жыл бұрын
So, every lord has his own army?" It's called feudalism. Knights give loyalty to barons, barons to dukes, dukes to the king. It means that in the long run the king cannot be an absolute ruler, or his lords will move against him (as Robert Baratheon led a coalition against Aegon Targaryen, the Mad Kin). Go read up on the Thirty Year's War. Also, the Magna Carta.
@Orimthekeyacolite
@Orimthekeyacolite 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos on not immediately buying into Ned's old prejudice towards Jaime (like most people do). The guy might be a bit of an arrogant spoiled prick, but he definitely did the right thing slaying a tyrant
@Br0nto5aurus
@Br0nto5aurus 9 ай бұрын
"Nothing said before the word but really counts" That's just BS. I hate it when people say that. For example, I'm searching for a dog trainer and I often put in emails, "My dog is very well behaved, but she has some specific behavioral issues I'd like to work on." That doesn't mean my dog isn't well behaved. It means she is, but she has some specific issues. "But" is a language tool that shouldn't be discarded.
@zebba5059
@zebba5059 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine Viserys meeting Joffrey that's a tentrumtemper match, lol that killed me.
@samus5094
@samus5094 2 жыл бұрын
One would think that Ned would like Jaime for killing the man who caused the death of his father and brother. But the way Ned sees it, Jaime is an opportunistic coward who only switched sides at the last minute to not be on the losing side, rather than for moral reasons. To make it worse, Jaime is kingsguard; sworn to defend the king and his family. Violating this oath in a world where honor is very important means that Jaime is looked down upon by most people, not just Ned.
@theonemrtom101
@theonemrtom101 3 ай бұрын
Great reaction👏🏻 great channel🙌🏻
@Necrothep
@Necrothep 2 жыл бұрын
You have to let go the idea of "back then", it's not in our world, nor in timeline, it's mid-ages. It's game of thrones line. They have their own way of doing things.
@becoolpolo
@becoolpolo 2 жыл бұрын
I dieeeeeed w/ Daenerys-Shakira comparison. guess i never noticed n failed as latino
@asjaosaline5987
@asjaosaline5987 Жыл бұрын
KingsGuard is honorable posision it last line of defence for King and family and when Kingguard will betray its the worst thing
@gdbssa
@gdbssa 3 ай бұрын
" I think it passing odd that I am loved by one for a kindness I never did, and reviled by so many for my finest act."
@MattSamma
@MattSamma 2 жыл бұрын
Loving your reactions to GOT. This is why Ned is not "grateful" to Jaime: Ned is a RIDICULOUSLY (later you will understand why I emphasize this word) honorable guy. For him, honor is the most important thing. Jaime murdered Aerys, the Mad King, in the back, the least "honorable" way to kill someone. That's why he despises him, even though he has, in a way, "avenged" Ned's father and brother.
@Slevencolevra
@Slevencolevra 2 жыл бұрын
Gonna be good 👍
@benyblancofrbx
@benyblancofrbx 2 жыл бұрын
Just you & this series & I'm loving it... will def. sub to join you on this journey. I hope you will also react to the Lore Video after each season. Would luv to see your insights on what you learn at the end of each season. 🍀
@lolmao500
@lolmao500 2 жыл бұрын
We need moooooooore game of thrones! One per day please! Hahaha
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