The difference between imperial and metric 😬 SAS Rogue Heroes - BBC

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Spring 1941. The British Army is losing the war against Germany and the Axis powers, fighting for control of North Africa.
Lieutenant David Stirling, an eccentric young officer serving with 8 Commando, finds himself increasingly frustrated with the military authorities and their handling of current strategy.
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[@Karl_with_a_K]

The most English thing about this clip was trying to blame it on the French. 🤣

[@jimmyjazz1570]

To be fair, it usually is their fault .....

[@lucatthedoor5391]

Et la chose la plus française à faire est de dire que c'est la faute des Américains ! XD

@@jimmyjazz1570 "Why did Singapore fell" "Well, unlike in Dunkirk, there was no french army to hold the line"

[@murphy7801]

@@jimmyjazz1570 excuses excuses

[@CHALETARCADE]

@@jimmyjazz1570 Then I guess you're very English!😃

[@sebastiencz3931]

As a frenchie, i really love and respect the English tradition to blame the French at any given opportunity.

[@PrograError]

Well... there was Dunkirk...

[@joezephyr]

He wasn't blaming the French. As commanding officer he should have checked. He didn't check so it's his fault.

[@retrorampage484]

Because we love you really.

[@romanfedotov1152]

As Russian i understand you when neighbours have tradition to blame everything on you

[@bondvagabond42]

65% of modern English, is loaned words from the French language, 1066 and all that, so it's 65% Frances fault, every time...

[@nkpv808]

For those of you wondering, we use the metric system in the US military so that we can effectively communicate with our allies in the field lol it’s good to know both ☺️

[@scootergrant8683]

Indeed. Blaming one system is rather fruitless. It's mainly the understanding that's the issue.

[@Dd214medaddy]

Blaming one system? Imperial is absolutely dogshit.

[@ValiduzZ]

When i visited my US buddy (I'm Swedish) i said something along the line of "14 O'Clock." And he just blinked "Oh. You use Military time." :'D

[@ColinRichardson]

@@ValiduzZ my mate is a policeofficer, everything I hear from him is 1400 (14 hundred), so when I hear 14 O'clock, I just know it's the evil halfway house between the two

[@jonfisher9214]

The metric system really makes a lot more sense so I'm glad to hear it's being used by you guys.

[@stryker214]

One of my big things when I was in college and taught lab courses was to drill into my students to label units. My spiel was "in my lab, you'll just lose a few points; out in the real world you may crash a billion dollar space probe into Mars, or you may overdose a patient on morphine and kill them"

[@randomobserver8168]

In Canada, it was part of the reason for having to glide a Boeing 767 and then slip it into a disused military airstrip being used for drag racing. Lookup the "Gimli Glider". It wasn't just metric versus Imperial units- it was that combined with measuring by weight versus by volume, or something along those lines. Two part mistake, one airliner flying on empty.

[@aaronleverton4221]

@@randomobserver8168 Serviceable telemovie, 'though.

[@billstuart9394]

our science teacher ; when we gave a verbal answer ie 100 ..... he would always reply ; 100 what ; 100 elephants ! to get the point over

[@rickysanowara8254]

The first thing I taught my son is this "units of measurements are important, more important than the numbers"

[@krashd]

@@rickysanowara8254 The first thing I taught mine was that food goes in your mouth and you don't play with your shit.

[@Spudtron98]

It's 1941, the war in North Africa continues to escalate, and AC/DC starts playing. Nice.

[@Shadowman4710]

AC/DC has always been here.

[@thonbrocket2512]

@@Shadowman4710 And Sterling's cool shades are right with them.

[@Nghilifa]

@@thonbrocket2512 They're period correct though. Aviators were invented in the 30s.

[@Antonio-MadTexMex]

Back then they were called BC\AD

[@user-wl6bw3jl4n]

@@Antonio-MadTexMex now THAT is wit 😂 Bravo Sir, I commend you 😂😂😂

[@warmhandswarmheart]

There was a conversion error once when 2500 pounds of fuel was loaded onto a passenger airliner instead of 25000 kilograms. The pilot landed the plane on an deserted airstrip using a maneuver usually used with gliders (side slip). There was no loss of life, no serious injuries even, and the jet was only minimally damaged. It was referred to as "the Gimli glider".

[@nvelsen1975]

I'm amazed it was able to take off at all with only English money in the fuel tank. Those notes with the queen on them must burn quite well!

[@bugwar5545]

Kinda curious though. No one on the crew noticed the fuel gauge being a tad low after fueling up?

[@alucardhellsing1037]

@@bugwar5545 Air Canada Flight 143. The ground crew was using pounds to fuel the brand new jet when they were should have been using kgs. Also the piolt was an avid glider flyer. 1pond is around 453g.

[@bugwar5545]

@@alucardhellsing1037 I understand the math. I understand the assumptions. Yet if I put ten liters into my gas tank instead of ten gallons, one glance at the fuel gauge tells me something is off. I wonder why no one noticed the fuel gauge itself showed the problem.

[@dontbetonit813]

@@alucardhellsing1037 It happened to one flight 40 years ago and hasn't happened since.

[@andrewpepper3145]

If this was Britain today they'd probably still run into similar problems. We are - to my knowledge - the only nation on earth to use neither the imperial system or the metric system but a weird combination of both depending on what it is we're measuring 🤣

[@tankicat]

Nope the Canadians do it as well, and probably a good smattering of other ex-imperial countries.

[@ZarkowsWorld]

@@tankicat US also

[@robwalsh9843]

US scientists and military use metric

[@DaChaGee]

@@tankicat But your roads are on KM although you may say miles.

[@tankicat]

@@DaChaGee Nope my roads are in miles, I didn't say I was Canadian. 🙂

[@MrCardinal1965]

Fighting Rommel in the desert without Richard Burton, who would have thought it possible. Absolutely brilliant series.

[@captaincrash9286]

Or John Mills! I know.. incredible, right? James Mason must think he's in with a chance this time..

[@Peter-ri9ie]

Yes, quite good, actually.

[@hodgey7183]

The accompanying documentary on BBC4, including interviews with original members ( in 1987) is also worth a watch

[@Peter-ri9ie]

@@hodgey7183 right. Could you post a link?

[@sticky59]

@@Peter-ri9ie There's this tech called google ..... quite good for searching for things ...... maybe give it a whirl.

[@teutonalex]

As a veteran I could viscerally and emphatically feel the OIC’s realization of that colossal, career ending fk up.

[@prointernetuser]

the looming dread as the gauge reaches E with Torbruk nowhere in sight and there's nothing you can do. The last time you could have done something was 12 hours ago. I absolutely feel for the guy.

[@nobytes2]

Do does trucks even have big enough tanks for 500 miles? it would have to be huge amount of capacity

[@gn0st1c]

@@nobytes2 Humber 4x4 had 72 litres tank (range of 500 km). 500 km is about 300 miles i think :)

[@theirishviking9278]

@@nobytes2 800km of distance... i don't think there would be many that could even on an empty load

[@flitsertheo]

@@nobytes2 They could have carried barrels or cans of spare fuel in those trucks.

[@alexsummers9140]

As a young American student, we were drilled to learn the metric system for a period of time because in the 70s, there was a rumor that we would switch to it, but we never did. Life in my future Chemistry classes would've been so nicer. :)

[@KibuFox]

A couple states actually went to it. Ironically, the US actually does use it. All the units we commonly use, like feet, and gallons, and so on, are actually defined in terms of metric units.

[@Wailwulf]

What I remember most was the schools always trying to teach converting the measurements to and from metric. Never dealing with just metric as metric. Talked to my friends in Canada about their experience with conversion with metrics and it was just metric, no converting. Canada just dove in, America stuck it's toe in and decided it was too cold.

[@g00gleisgayerthanaids56]

@@Wailwulf metric is the official standard unit of measurment for the us government/military for everything except aeronautical. The idea that one could force a standard change on that scale on the people who believe in individual liberty is asinine, which is why we dont force a standard on our civilian populace. We arent scared of the metric system despite what the propaganda surrounding the issue would have you believe.

[@billpetersen298]

@@Wailwulf We had the choice of going from British imperial measure, to metric, or American imperial. We did both. We still buy a pound of butter, and a gallon of milk, or paint. The milk is no longer 4.54L, it is now 3.78L. Petrol-gasoline, is in L. But building materials, are still in inches-feet. We are still influenced, by that large market, to the south of us.

[@billpetersen298]

Are you saying, that chemistry classes are not in Metric?? Chemistry, is all about measurement, and accuracy.

[@austin2842]

The Desert Rats. My grandfather served as a tank driver with the division. Fought at El-Alamein, then later Sicily, Monte Casino and Rome.

[@Ronkyort0dox]

Cassino

[@finaladvance5085]

Did he fight Italians or Germans in el-Alamein? I hear the Italian units fought to the last bullet and the last shell

[@BudaPetermann]

Fought along with the brazilians at the Monte Casino ?

[@tommyatkins2527]

My grandfather's uncle was desert rat but ws killed in Germany

[@jackschannel1610]

My great grandfather served with them too (he was a postman though so I don’t think he saw any fighting)

[@JonnyMonday]

I'll never forget when someone came into reception and wanted some sheet material six foot by six hundred millimetres. Everyone else thought it was hilarious but I just said 'well, if he's provided accurate dimensions that's all that counts.'

[@NevilofMars]

72 inches by 23.622 inches? Sheet metal?

[@PhycoKrusk]

@@NevilofMars It's a goofy measurement, sure, but it's accurate in so far as it's clear and the units are specified. The most you can do is clarify with the customer that they do, in fact, want "6 foot by 600 millimeters."

[@fbksfrank4]

That’s what he wants.

[@fbksfrank4]

@@NevilofMars cover for something, or food service counter.

[@NevilofMars]

@@PhycoKrusk But, was it sheet metal?

[@laganuk]

I did an engineering degree in 1998 and learned SI units. Ten years later I worked at my old post-primary school and they were teaching the pupils imperial measurements. Buy milk in pints but buy petrol in litres:)

[@Nerezza1]

Isn't that the UK in a nutshell though? Speed in miles per hour, fuel in litres and fuel economy in miles per gallon.

[@fbksfrank4]

Pints all around.

[@MisterItchy]

Don't forget to measure distance in miles!

[@christopherbowers7236]

thats what annoys me. i moved to the country and i've been trying to work out how many miles i get to the liter. and i cant do it becasue i dont know which bloody gallon my car is measuring in.

[@eastcorkcheeses6448]

While still talking miles per gallon , and not know what a gallon is ..

[@bassbytes]

After this scene he’s magically in a bar in Cairo having managed to travel 500km all the way back. If him and the the convoy were indeed rescued, why wouldn’t they just bring them fuel so they could continue forward an extra 190 miles instead of bring them all the way back ?

[@python27au]

The only possible reason is narrative imperative.

[@darkmatter6714]

Maybe the scene in Cairo was AFTER, they got rescued and went to Tubrook

[@benlewis2475]

Ever heard of artistic license? They need to make the story flow.

[@python27au]

The scene sets up the fact that Tobruk was besieged and the commandos are unable to do anything about it. It combines this with some humour. I just think they could have used a more believable scenario or explained how it played out. I think the writers trying to explain their way out of that situation might have been funnier than the scene itself.😋

[@MageBlackstone]

Like I want to see them attempting to travel back to Cairo. Get over it boy. Time jumps are absolutely fine, otherwise this series would take place in less than a working day. Doughnut.

[@azharhamzah7034]

To be fair, 500km from Cairo in direction to Tobruk should land them near Mersa Matrouh. There a british army base in there, and even train station.

[@bassbytes]

Yet they somehow magically end up back in Cairo, how did they get back? 🤔

[@whatever77ism]

@@bassbytes On camels? 🤣🤣🤣

[@favorius]

Heart of Iron?

[@chapman9230]

I worked at an aerospace company and one of the old hands told me the story about some converting imperial to metric units. It was for landing gear. You can guess the rest. The gear collapsed…

[@peanuts2105]

I work in aerospace too and yes all the tooling is in imperial but the new aircraft types such as the 787 or A350 AMMs and SRMs predominantly offer metric measurements. Boeing seem to be pushing it because they (as in America) even realise that the rest of the world is metric

[@chestersnapdragonmcphistic579]

Don't know why everyone is so obsessed with switching to metric. Trying to switch has caused all of the problems that people blame on the imperial system. Just stick with imperial and do not try to convert to any other unit system just because a bunch of uptight europeans think they should tell americans what to do.

[@succ1e49]

@@chestersnapdragonmcphistic579 becaus metric is more accurate

[@Matvo]

​@@chestersnapdragonmcphistic579 metric is easier as a matter of fact. Can you tell without looking it up, how many feets are one mile? No? But I bet you know on the spot, how many centimeters are equal to one kilometer.

[@peanuts2105]

@@chestersnapdragonmcphistic579 what a moron. Metric has been used as far as back roman times. Metric is easy because its using multiple of tens; not eighths, 16ths and 32 second. Its not intuitive, its a global engineering scientific standard that has been in use since the Apollo program.

[@firstjayjay]

The fact that there still are 3, and only 3 countries in the world that have not realized how much more simple and easy the metric system is, is astonishing

[@Glitchunlocked]

It's not that easy. When your entire society is developed around one system, it's not only expensive to make the change, as every sign, marker, label, and more will need to be converted, but you also need to train the population to start thinking that way too. The UK is a good example of how this might work out in the US. They "officially" switched in 1965, yet it took more than three decades for the metric system to really start to take over. The road signs are still in miles in a lot of areas, food still has both imperial and metric, and take this with a grain of salt, but a study I found from 2015 discovered that 60% of UK teens used the imperial system more. Now imagine that with 350 million people who can't even agree on who is president and honestly, it's fine if we don't. The professions that need the metric system already use it, as does our military.

[@Ned-Ryerson]

@@Glitchunlocked Don't trust a study you haven't funded, old boy.

[@derekholgate6345]

I just finished watching all six episodes in the series back to back, as I couldn't wait to see what happened next. As a fan of the wild geese and ice-cold in Alex, this was very much my kind of thing. As an Irish man, I loved the ending and paddy stole the show. The fighting Irish and British, some of the most heroic men in our history. May God rest their souls in eternal peace and never forget them and their bravery of patriots

[@coolstorybrooooo7643]

Paddy is Northern Irish, meaning hes British.

[@tommyatkins2527]

Me too

[@kevinmcmullan1827]

@@coolstorybrooooo7643 If you're born on the island of Ireland you're Irish. 😄

[@tomkemp9465]

Same thing. Couldn’t wait for one per week. Brilliant series.

[@maxitown7]

@derekholgate Tommy Morrison who wrote Ice cold in Alex was my brother's Godfather. His wife was German and he had to deal with that throughout the war and afterwards.

[@tonyworrall5791]

Thoroughly enjoyed this series, you will want to binge watch all 6 shows and roll on the next series.

[@ThePerpetualStudent]

One of the best series I have seen in a while. Truly hope they make a second season. - a yank

[@mig21L]

We in Chile use the metric system, but we also use the imperial one for construction, when you buy nails or screws you don't ask for it in centimeters but in inches, the pipes are measured in inches just like wood...

[@rafaelalexie2417]

Same in Romania. When it comes to elements of construction, we often use "țol" (from german "zoll" meaning inch)

[@davebox588]

But if you want, say, 20 planks. Do you ask for the quantity in metric or imperial?

[@rafaelalexie2417]

@@davebox588 You simply say "a score" of planks. Easy

[@davebox588]

@@rafaelalexie2417 Ha! Hoist by your own Picard, my friend. A score is a double decimal hence neither Metric or Imperial. 'Twenty' is a Maian 'Xpict" or maybe even a Phillipine "Mat-Taichu" but otherwise, just NO! (:>)

[@rafaelalexie2417]

@@davebox588 Damn it, Dave! Why are you the way you are?

[@nickedmunds1829]

Brilliant series and true also, I’ve read the book and this is very accurate in its account! These men were a different breed and Paddy was probably the bravest man who ever lived 🤔God bless them, their contribution to the victory in Africa was immeasurable!

[@matthewredman7814]

Paddy was a bit of a 2 sided coin I think.

[@G4x5da]

Accurate? All their kit is wrong

[@g00gleisgayerthanaids56]

@@G4x5da admin results gets more accurate kit for his shitposting.

[@djd8305]

You've figured out Paddy Mayne from reading one book and the series! Well done you. Yet, I wonder about your "the bravest man who ever lived" comment has me puzzled; really, "bravest", "ever"...... I suspect that you have never really met men like him. Men of contradictions and of flaws. Have a look at VC winners and the common thread is of bull headedness and obliviousness to risk - for some this works out, for others not so much. Oh, and its a TV programme - a representation: not a fly on the wall view. That said, those guys were fu**ing amazing, and the tradition, warts n all, continues.

[@nickedmunds1829]

@@G4x5da That why its accurate, initially they didn't have any kit. What they did have they stole, all their kit was a miss mash of uniform and hardware.

[@soyuz6327]

Maravillosa serie, la tragedia y el humor van de la mano como todo en la vida, a veces arriba a veces abajo, va muy bien en todo, buenas caracterizaciones y ambientación, un lujo de ficción realismo, que siga asi y mejor aún siempre🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[@stevedouglas3975]

Brilliant so far. I'm on episode 4 on iplayer and it's superb rip roaring stuff. Artistic license taken of course but based on fact. Great acting, action and humour.

[@rhysmaybrey7739]

Great series, great acting and based on fact. Brave men

[@oioisaveloy7824]

The soundtrack alone is amazing! Can’t wait for season two, it’s the best tv series to ever be made.

[@fififlickfi2525]

Binged all series, brilliant, SAS, the best!

[@user-mg8pj8vl2g]

One of the best things on TV at the time. Goes off to rewatch

[@mnk9073]

Looks like some Frenchmen were still salty about the sinking of their fleet at Mers-el-Kébir...

[@mathieushifera135]

Nah, this is just English stupidity. Guy knew, that's why he struggled to answer

[@michaelodonoghue7464]

And several Decades later an extremely expensive Spacecraft crashed into a Planet at an excessively high Speed because of Metric and Imperial confusion in the Calculations. And I once added 3 cm to 120 Inches instead of adding 3 Inches to 120 Inches (almost 45 years ago).

[@n_tas]

Just last week I had to design a bracket to attach circuit boards designed in decimal inches to a panel fabricated in fractional inches inside a housing that was exactly 270x180mm using metric machine screws. The machinist thought I was joking when I said the 3.6x1.0" boards should be spaced 2-1/16" apart on a bracket measuring 250x130mm...

[@garyritchie3556]

@@n_tas What the hell is a "decimal inch"??

[@AenesidemusOZ]

​@@garyritchie3556 eg. 1.75" instead of 1 & 3/4 inches.

[@trianglemoebius]

​@@garyritchie3556 'decimal inches' are when you write them as, for example, 0.1" instead of 1/10”

[@t.bunker2511]

What's worse is British Imperial units aren't the same a US Customary units either. A gallon in the British Imperial System is equal is 4.54 liters (or 160 fluid ounces) while a U.S. gallon is equal to 3.78 liters (or 128 fluid ounces). YMMV.

[@krashd]

You Might Mumps Vogel?

[@lasarith2]

@@krashd your miles may vary.

[@R3dp055um]

That's because one cup in the USA is 8 fluid ounces, whereas one cup in the UK is 10 fluid ounces. But the "two cups to a pint, two pints to a quart, 4 quarts to a gallon" part remains the same.

[@brucenorman8904]

But they both share an almost identical origin. Both came from the standard size jug of an alcohol that was very popular in the respective countries. Well in the case of the US future country.

[@redslate]

And, "barrels" of crude oil are different from "barrels;" _both_ are different from drums, yet all these words are casually used interchangeably (somehow whiskey's involved?).

[@CrouchyOnBikes]

Not a massive fan of the BBC but this series was some of the best telly I’d watched in ages! I hope they’ll be another season

[@dazblue5515]

Great to see Miles Jupp 😄 Few liberties taken with the actual history but great series.

[@irrichman]

That day he was Kilometers Jupp...

[@chrisholland7367]

I'm pretty impressed so far with this .🇬🇧👍

[@XPOL12X]

Seen this series 3 times now. Amazing!

[@iyadkamhiyeh527]

This series has not disappointed at all!

[@writerone9510]

I remember a same sort of clusterf@& on a British shooting range… The frigates conducting NGS used DMS, the 81mm used MGRS and the jets used DMT, while range maps where provided in BNG… our JTAC / FO team went 😖😖

[@sugandesenuds6663]

giving a jtac bad maps? oooooh boy, thats dangerous

[@19ghost73]

That's we (Germans) have a joke saying: "Artillery doesn't know friend or foe, just high-value targets!"

[@sugandesenuds6663]

@@19ghost73 feuer für effekt ihr maden!

[@darkmatter6714]

In September of 1999, after almost 10 months of travel to Mars, the Mars Climate Orbiter burned and broke into pieces. On a day when NASA engineers were expecting to celebrate, the ground reality turned out to be completely different, all because someone failed to use the right units, i.e., the metric units!

[@AsidsTechTips]

How right you are Dark, sorry about that. Funny thing is, Im Irish so youd expect Id know a uk accent anyday of the week. lol. Well spotted. Have a good Christmas

[@blackopscw7913]

Well it was a mix up, we went to the moon with imperial so i would say it works

[@doaa7941]

@@blackopscw7913NASA used metric for the moon landing. The lunar module was in metric but they had to waste precious 1960s computer calculation power to convert it to imperial for the astronauts.

[@CourageTheCowardlyDog266]

All because one stubborn nation refuses to change

[@curmudgeon1933]

@@CourageTheCowardlyDog266 Only three countries in the world don't use the metric system: the United States, Liberia, and Myanmar.

[@brentstarkes9682]

Absolutely love this series!!!

[@gtanz8475]

Brilliant series

[@casperselka671]

Great series best on BBC since Peaky blinders can’t wait for next series

[@MaltakoKorto]

Brilliant series! we want another season!

[@wnose]

Season 2 coming end 2024

[@moonstruck336]

Loved the show ! Well done old boy !

[@waynemullally6423]

Check out the Gimli glider. A passenger plan ran out of fuel because of a mix up with litres and gallons in the change over in Canada in the late seventies. The pilot managed to land at a disused landing landing strip in Gimli Manitoba

[@newfineart]

Haven't watched BBC or TV for 15 years, must say that this film, programme, tv series or whatever you call it, looks intriguing.

[@GaijinDT]

Indeed, but it's probably full of historical revisionism as the BBC has become a propaganda machine.

[@Shadowman4710]

@@GaijinDT Sure but for which side?

[@farab4391]

They should make more of this show, it was brilliant 😀👍

[@32shumble]

A great series in all respects.

[@tbone9474]

"You will address me as sir" "Well do something that's worth my respect and I will"

[@hussite7235]

Yeah that's not how the military works

[@tbone9474]

@@hussite7235 your point ?

[@hussite7235]

@@tbone9474 this would never happen in real life lol

[@tbone9474]

@@hussite7235 you have 0 humor

[@AenesidemusOZ]

​@hussite7235 that's how it worked for the Australians. We got into all sorts of trouble in WW2 for not showing respect for those officers, especially the British, who didn't deserve it 😂

[@paultulip2917]

Absolutely love the AC/DC vibe! Brings serious and important history to the masses! More please.😁

[@waynesimpson2074]

Is the music a background add on for this mini clip or is it a feature of the whole series? It would be the difference between watching and not watching for ma..ACCA DACCA fan.🤘

[@paultulip2917]

@@waynesimpson2074 70s and 80s rock is a recurring theme.😁

[@waynesimpson2074]

@@paultulip2917 ta

[@Malky24]

Quite appropriate considering AC/DC were Scots-Australians and the SAS itself was founded by a Scot and an Australian.

[@tonyworrall5791]

The music fit's brilliantly with the action.

[@tom4150]

This Series looks awesome

[@muckmirrors2512]

Best thing BBC have done in a long time

[@garryleeks4848]

Great series on how the SAS all started

[@pavelshum908]

We need season 2!

[@patrickh9937]

Ten more days over here. I can't wait.

[@davidfaulds2960]

Watching the series made it worth paying a years license fee!

[@christiandiemond9595]

Good chuckle..

[@Mourtzouphlos240]

"I do beg your pardon sir, but while you were, as you say, "sitting there watching the fuel gauge move inexorably towards empty," and at the same time being completely aware that we had no fuel trucks to refuel our vehicles...exactly what was your thought process when you decided that we shouldn't remedy the situation in any way while it was still possible to both rectify the situation and complete our mission? For my own curiosity of course, sir."

[@RFC-3514]

What was the thought process of travelling to a sieged city while carrying only the exact amount of fuel that would get you there in the first place? Were they all planning to just stay there forever? Whe whole premise makes no sense.

[@bjiornbjiorn]

@@RFC-3514 Supplying fuel in North Africa was a real problem and one of the tactics that was used to avoid wastage was intense rationing. This meant that sometimes vehicles would only be issued with the fuel required for their mission (plus a wee bit for emergencies). Also you have to remember that Tobruk is a port city and continued to receive shipments during the Axis siege. If the convoy had made it there then they could have resupplied by sea. However, your point about staying there forever isn't too far from the mark. Any relief of Tobruk would have been predicated on dislodging the Axis forces from their positions and pushing them back to a new frontline away from Tobruk. The port was an important supply centre between Italian Libya and Egypt that the Allies had expressly captured to prevent an extension of Axis supply lines in the region So, a force that made it to Tobruk and drove off the Axis could expect to be resupplied from the city and continue fighting in the area rather than retreating immediately.

[@krashd]

@@RFC-3514 The clue there is that it is a "city". Did you think fuel was a magical item that was only granted to people who carried magic beans?

[@RFC-3514]

@@krashd - The clue there is they're *under siege.*

[@Sgt.chickens]

@@RFC-3514 yes but the idea was to......break the siege. Tobruk is also a port city so you know, Merchant navy supplies could be brought in quite easily if the siege could just be broken. the germans attacking tobruk were incredibly demoralised. they expected to finish off the Aussies there in a few weeks tops and it lasted 6 months.

[@YodaOnABender]

This is an alternate universe where Adam didn’t get kicked out of army school

[@jkimm7]

I have a very official business card tacked up at my desk from one of my professors with the phrase she drilled into all of our heads over the course of the class: simply "Use Units". Something as simple as forgetting your units can cause everything to come down

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

I have a great admiration for the Desert Rats (amongst whom were many Australians, so we have strong respect for our honoured servicemen and women). I am in Australia, and I have not seen the series and so have no idea how the 'We've run out of fuel' problem shown here was solved. I am wondering what the lead driver / SAS commander might have proposed to solve this problem. From what I know of the Egyptian / Libyan coast, there might have been a town - Marsa Matruh ? - not too far behind where the convoy would be - given the information available here. [ie: They've run out of fuel - or are very close to it - and I'm assuming they originally departed from Alexandria as just about everything west of Tobruk was held by Italians / Germans at the time of the siege of Tobruk.] Would it be feasible to syphon whatever (little) fuel is available from all but three trucks; divide up the men (I estimate at most 120 ?) into three trucks - yes, that's jamming them in! - and head back to Marsa Matruh? If they only get within 10 or 20 kilometres of that town, well, they're going to have to march. I don't think that's impossible for them to make it. I can't see them trying to get to Tobruk - even with a few trucks - if they're almost out of fuel and still have something like 200 kilometres to go. It's not much of a solution... but I can't see how they could get to Tobruk... I think saving the lives of those they could save is more important isn't it? Anyway, I'd love to hear how the problem was solved because, as I say, I haven't seen the series. [It looks brilliant, btw!]

[@v1e1r1g1e1]

@Play Google Thanks for the answer / response. I wonder HOW they could return to Cairo with so little fuel, though!

[@jannowak2352]

You are confused. In 2nd w.w. only men. Those were not "woke" times. Men died and women stayed at home. Only some women were nurses but they were not in danger

[@remittanceman4685]

The Desert Rats were the 7th Armoured Division, a totally British unit that had no Australians in it. It's badge was the red jerboa as seen on these vehicles which also puzzled me given that this convoy was from army level assets in Cairo not any specific division's allocation of transport. Another example of television phuquewhittery I guess.

[@QuasiMonkey]

Listening to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History "Supernova in the East" series episode about what the Aussies had to deal with and the conditions they endured during WW2 in New Guinea campaign during the Pacific Theater is mind blowing. Those were some tough as nails Aussies. This series on the SAS is very good & definitely worth checking out!

[@oddursigurdsson9637]

They probably just sent for another convoy of fuel trucks that arrived when the battle was over and then turned around back to Cairo having done nothing but waste time.

[@unclescipio3136]

There are two types of nations in the world: those who use Metric and savages.

[@pauldarling330]

There are two types of nations in the world: those who use Metric and those who put men on the moon.

[@Jose.AFT.Saddul]

@@pauldarling330 fun fact the people who sent men on the moon (NASA) used metric. NASA has actually encountered problems before where they send stuff in metric but their subsidiary company use imperial. Like the incident with Lockheed. Where NASA blamed Lockheed for using imperial for why a million dollar satellite went to waste. So now NASA require all measurements to be standardised in SI units or metric.

[@pauldarling330]

@@Jose.AFT.Saddul What country that didn't put men on the moon are you posting from. yes, NASA had problems when they used surrender units. And, no, the apollo scientists, engineers and machinists used imperial. They measured in pounds and gallons inches and miles. Its OK. The metric system is like everything else from the French Revolution. Disgusting and abandoned by all people of culture.

[@Jose.AFT.Saddul]

@@pauldarling330 NASA also use SI units to easily coordinate with other countries since now Space travel is a more international affair. And NASA isnt alone the US military also use SI units. Technically Reagan made SI units the official units of the US with the metric conversion act. But he didn’t make the change mandatory so many Americans are still against using metric even tho its so good for converting units since stuff like grams, meters and other units are connected and can be easily used in scientific equations.

[@pauldarling330]

@@Jose.AFT.Saddul Since adopting the metric system, NASA has done nothing. Since adopting the metric system, the US military has lost every war. The science is settled. Fractions are superior to decimals.

[@Festivejelly]

Such a good series

[@arthurbotting9557]

I really wish they’d do another season of this show! Cone on BBC!!!!!

[@cambs0181]

Yes I know it's not historically accurate, Yes I know ACDC and Sham 69 played in the background isn't proper period music, but I don't care! It's an absolutely brilliant series!

[@llynellyn]

During WW2 there was actually an instance of a British unit running out of fuel because they had requested X imperial gallons and the Americans had supplied X US gallons instead, we didn't even need metric to screw it up xD

[@gmctech]

Take fuel from half the trucks, fill the others with that fuel, load them the beegeezus up and keep on rolling. Likely won't get you there but it'll sure cut down on the marching distance.

[@krashd]

Aye, that's what I was thinking. Also even with a fuel truck I would assume that each truck would still carry at least a single jerry can of fuel just for emergency purposes.

[@cmaadiv]

This show looks Amazing 😍

[@jch010]

This series is soo good. Acting is amazing too

[@johnp8131]

Don't normally "Binge Watch" but this I did. Brilliant! I hear the pedants are already whinging about the incidental music?

[@KB-xq6yv]

Additionally to this the British used these leaking fuel canisters which were depleting their supply of fuel during transportation. That was until the US copied the jerrycan and supplied those in large quantities.

[@firestorm165]

There was also a bounty for anyone who managed to get their hands on an intact Jerry can from the axis stores if memory serves me.

[@grondhole73]

@@firestorm165 You can still buy those axis gerry cans as they were copied by the Soviets in Latvia I believe. I think that Wavian sells them. They are still excellent.

[@elliott7531]

The Jerry can gets its name because it was a German design. It was actually the British that reverse engineered it hence it was given the British nickname for Germans "Jerry" and that stuck. If it was the Americans that copied it they'd have called it the Kraut can. The British actually produced most of the copied Jerry cans and they were used by American forces in what is known as 'reverse lend-lease'

[@brandocalifornia3024]

This show was great.

[@therealunclevanya]

The AC/DC at the end is relevant to a modern audience, listen to the lyrics that Bon Scott is singing... "It's criminal There ought to be a law Criminal There ought to be a whole lot more"

[@josmo1363]

thought this was going to be a skit Didn't know it was from a series Now I *must* watch it

[@JackDespero]

This actually happened in the past with planes.

[@bonedragon4166]

That AC/DC needle drop ❤

[@iraniche]

Typical English officer, doesnt know how he got there, doesnt know what to do, knows exactly who to blame

[@killer3000ad]

And still expected to be respected.

[@iraniche]

@@killer3000ad the only thing he knew was who was a son of who

[@hellacoorinna9995]

"KaaLlll meeee Shiiirrr.... pwease?"

[@kylefrost1113]

This is a situation I would 100% expect to see happen in today's millitary

[@nirfz]

In other areas but not in the military. The british use metric in their military like everyone else. Even the americans do.

[@campandcook3118]

@@nirfz The military might use metric units, but still converts clicks to miles. And in theater, they use contractors for catering, resupply, motorpool refueling, Truck drivers etc, Phillipinos, indians (no feathers) etc that already have a language barrier

[@Jose.AFT.Saddul]

@@campandcook3118 im pretty sure most branches stick to clicks for easier coordination. And don’t bother converting to miles as it’s a hassle. The only exception is the US navy I guess which still uses Nautical Miles and measures speed in Knots. As that is the global standard for sea navigation. And many countries use it.

[@nirfz]

@@campandcook3118 I would think that people from the Philipines and India use metric units too.

[@campandcook3118]

@@nirfz thats what I said, they use contractors that mostly use metric units, but some parts of the military and some contractors still use imperial units internally, which leads to conversion errors

[@brownkemosabe]

I WANT A 2ND SERIES!

[@paulkelcher824]

ac/dc at the end was a nice surprise :)

[@isaacschmitt4803]

"I don't care who your father was, you are to address me as 'sir.'" "And you were supposed to make sure we had fuel to get to Tobruk. 'Sir.'"

[@Deontjie]

It is only a story. Usually when military truck refuel, the fill up completely. Just in case.

[@beatonthedonis]

When you read about the planning that went into the Bravo Two Zero mission in the Gulf War, you realise that the SAS are no hot shakes when it comes to logistics either.

[@krashd]

No one is infallible, the SAS simply fail less than others.

[@321edhp]

Fascinating

[@slitor]

God damn! Why haven't I seen this show before!

[@trueblue3719]

Robert Blair Mayne. Legend 🇬🇧

[@nicholasbarr1149]

agreed but i dont think he beat up MPS he was in the glasshouse for hitting superior officer

[@dazblue5515]

How a movie of his life hasn't already been made is beyond me!

[@dazblue5515]

@@nicholasbarr1149 They've taken more than a few liberties with the truth

[@ronnieince4568]

True blue -he was Patrick Blair Mayne -he was the most decorated UK soldier of WWII -there is a memorial statue to him in Newtownards Co. Down -his birthplace He was killed in a car crash in the early 1950's.

[@dazblue5515]

@@ronnieince4568 Yeah, I have his biography... proper larger than life character... a real Action Man

[@firecrakka]

Such a good series. Watched the first episode and quickly binged the rest of it... now eagerly await a follow up season. (hopefully) Sidenote: Jack O'Connell needs some awards for his portrayal of Paddy Mayne.... Brilliant.

[@Harry-re7wi]

Just finished watching the series,thought it was brilliant…

[@jlg395]

Wow, a Smith's petrol gauge. What a cool detail.

[@Steamerbeen]

I met a lot of officers like that along the way.

[@hellacoorinna9995]

"If an Officer must remind a subordinate to call 'em Sir, it's unlikely they will."

[@danielqueirolo4747]

as an engineering student from a Latin American country, this video has no waste 🤣

[@YorkplasteringLowndes]

I watched all in same night fantastic

[@LoomisPC]

Love this series and the book it's based on.

[@gregoryclark8217]

Miles Jupp is excellent in this scene. He has only a small part in the series but he plays it really well.

[@zhangeldy4097]

Imperial system to Metric system is like Astrology to Astronomy. You can write your doctorate thesis, sure, but people will refuse to call you Doctor out of principle.

[@Aminuts2009]

As someone who lives in one of the three nations on Earth that still uses Imperial measurements, thank you for the laugh. Funniest thing I've seen all week.

[@ndr8469]

We have a left wing Media channel. The BBC. Funded by a license fee in the UK. What relevance to this film is questionable.

[@hochigaming14yearsago90]

@@ndr8469 omfg it's always politics with you lot.

[@sammiller6631]

Only Commonwealth countries ever used Imperial measurements. So your "only three nations" is most likely wrong.

[@sammiller6631]

@@ndr8469 Your idea of "left wing" is questionable. Oversimplifying is for lazy people.

[@ndr8469]

@@sammiller6631 what for the left? Everyone does the same thing for the right 😂

[@slimrummy4616]

This looks good

[@Tryzanfan]

We need a season 2

[@Scraggledust]

I scream exactly like that when converting Fahrenheit to Celsius and vice versa😅 have a safe holiday all🎃🎃🎃

[@thebadger9507]

Use Kelvin & you wouldn't have that issue

[@mikepxg6406]

What holiday....

[@mikepxg6406]

@@thebadger9507 who's Kevin ?

[@unwnme]

@@thebadger9507 So if you have a Celsius grade of anything, just think "Kelvin" and the Celsius degree magically transforms itself to Kelvin?

[@steveluckhurst2350]

@@thebadger9507 I'd like to see you measure volume in Kelvin !

[@siegfriedsalchenegger6732]

imperial - past metric - future ;)

[@franciscoencinas8371]

I forgot where i read this, but the french during the battle of puebla. got meters and varas mixed up while firing on the town. their artillery landed short of the town. they used all during their barrage.

[@markhughes7927]

I have always imagined the strained conversational forms taken with command in the context of the many times repeated ‘180° navigational error’ 😂!!

[@gazof-the-north5708]

The "Frenchmen in the transport department" may have sort of saved the day. Had they reached Tobruk, Stirling may well have been killed and thus never have formed the SAS! 🤣

[@pradyumn2692]

I don't think Stirling was the type of guy who could be killed.