The Disappearance of Alicia Amanda Stokes

[@MikeMoore-w3y]

My wife and I lived in the apartment next to her when this happened. Our bedroom wall was her kitchen wall. The reports that say her and her brother, "argued so loud the neighbors heard them," that's us. We reported that to the OPD homocide detective, Derwin Longmire (later fired from the OPD for corruption and mishandling evidence). We also reported that we heard her brother in the kitchen either the night of or the night after she went missing, crying and singing, "She Talks to Angels" by the Black Crows. Specifically, that part of the song. Seemed pretty important to us that he would emphasize those words, "She Talks to Angels," if she was only missing and not dead. He was a creepy dude, we always felt he was responsible for her going missing.

[@conniehemmer6831]

It sounds to me like her brother killed her, dumped her body somewhere, put her stuff in her car and ditched it nearby. Crazy that the police didn’t get a warrant or gain access to the apartment for 2 months - they would not have needed the brother’s permission to enter if the lease wasn’t in his name. Sounds like a very poor investigation. Also seems clear that they found enough blood and physical evidence to determine that she was badly injured or killed in the apartment. Very sad.

[@roamingmalones3441]

I agree

[@MoonlightGrahamCracker]

Its not easy to get a search warrant, especially in a missing person case.

[@tx.beekeepinglady5274]

Odd..

[@roserea3156]

You bet he did.

[@nevermind19700]

From what I recall about this case is that the brother was being kicked out of Mandy's apartment , by her due to his stealing something like 6k from her and writing bad checks on her accounts. Also, he was completely uncooperative with the Police from the start of the investigation and continued using her debit card after she went missing. He had a bad drug problem and stole all of his sister's money. Maybe the family got him a lawyer , because I think Mandy's mother was in denial about the circumstances at hand and helped him out by letting him move in with her. Such a tragic loss and I wish LE would've got a search warrant for the apartment right away. I think the brother killed her in that apartment. Sad, sad case.

[@TheMattTrakker]

Then pretended to be her on the phone with the BF?

[@lindasiroskey326]

Brian thanks for another great video !!!

[@janmarchand7294]

Doesn't seem like her family was cooperative at all. You would think they would do anything to find out what happened to her, including grilling the brother. But, on the other hand maybe they were trying to protect him. No family cooperation would make this all the harder to solve.

[@reesedaniel5835]

Sounds like a family of vipers to me (aka narcissists). Amanda was probably the Family Scapegoat.

[@patmuscarella8279]

This was a case that was on "disappeared " a show that was on tv years ago. As of late they do repeats on Investigation discover channel. You are spot on with what the program said. Thank you for your commpassion.

[@elizabethperez5694]

I think her brother has to know something. Odd they couldnt get a search warrant for the apartment sooner, with someone there missing! Great job as always, Bryan.

[@marktwain368]

What about forensic evidence? Prints on the car, etc.

[@kathymyers7279]

Knows something? Probably killed her!

[@Zis4Zorro]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/hYfJoqZ3atmEidE The brother was actually stealing from her. Here's another video that goes in depth

[@toscadonna]

She was either kidnapped from her car by some unknown assailant, or her brother did her in inside the house, put her body in her car along with her stuff, dumped the body somewhere, and then left her car on the side of the road running to throw the cops off of his trail and in the wrong direction.

[@TheMattTrakker]

And her drug addict brother managed to pull all of this off without anyone seeing him do it or leaving any evidence?

[@alicedrewe2330]

Oakland in 2007 was very dangerous. I was there. My friend was mugged at gun point. Also, in some places you can't fully pull off the road. There's no room. It's very crowded in many places.

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

Of all the places to live, why Oakland? Even San Fran is not safe, but Oakland?

[@nvskorpio]

I can't believe that ANY car wasn't stolen in Oakland in less than 6 min let alone hours

[@isabellind1292]

Gone are the olden days when cowboys had to check in their weapons when they rode into town and stealing another mans horse would end in a lynching!🔫🤠🐴💀

[@oldetymebiker2405]

This case is very strange. I would love to know what the cops know. And I have to say, what a brother. I’d turn the world upside down and help help any agency that could bring my sister back.

[@billrobbins5874]

CA is a big state. Remember years ago though there was a cop that accosted young women by pulling them over. LA? Poor young woman.

[@deirdre9746]

The argument occurred because her brother had been using HER bank card and draining HER bank account.,of HER money.This meant there would be no money for rent,etc..because of the amount of $ that the brother stole out of her bank account.And it was thought that she was going to go to the police about the matter.

[@yolandagarcia-qt1le]

Thanks Bryan, prayers for the family & friends

[@janewolf4541]

I feel bad for Amanda, and especially her family. Hopefully some day some light can be shed on this case, and eventually solved. Thank you again Bryan . Great job.

[@sandraouterbridge3236]

I really enjoy your videos Brian! They are well covered and well read!

[@happycamper9421]

You have a very nice channel, Bryan. I found it yesterday, liked and subscribed right away then binge watched several episodes. Good work, Bryan. Thank you.

[@Melsincatuation]

Glad to see you covering missing people cases not just the cases involved with hiking. If your not already aware.. The Charlie Project keeps.record.of all the missing people. Thank u Brian for all ur hard work and compassion

[@jamesferguson768]

Love the channel man. Keep it up

[@whenthestarsbegintofall6373]

I have. 3 brothers if one was missing I would let the cops in . Even if I have drugs He is hiding and it’s to late now

[@awfulcarti8050]

I’m been living in the Bay Area for a couple years now and it’s pretty normal for cars to stop in the middle of the road and just yield. Oakland is a pretty rough area so anything could have happened. I pray her family gets answers

[@SHurd-rc2go]

Why couldn't the police get a warrant to enter the apartment? Being put on Antabuse, tells a story. Add drugs, plus grief, and other problems. But the car not being snatched up and driven away, is a shock. Oakland?? Sorry for her and the family.

[@themobseat]

If you hang out with bad people long enough, their problems become your problems.

[@jontooke846]

I am with you seems brother has a hand in things. I love your work and posts Bryan. Thanks so much for all your hard work 🙂

[@brenta.9941]

I think Mandy’s brother (the one who was living with her) is involved in her disappearance, especially after the fight the two had. He could have driven her car to the location where it was found, locked it with her belongings inside, and easily walked the two miles back to the apartment. It’s anyone’s guess what he did with her body. I don’t understand why the police didn’t get a warrant and search Mandy’s apartment immediately after her car was found. I think the police dropped the ball by not immediately searching her apartment for evidence. And once new tenants moved in, any evidence that might have been there earlier was forever lost. This is an extremely sad case.

[@juanaction2715]

I think you are correct in your opinions. Too many details appear strange. Thanks again. Hope you are healing and can get some sleep.

[@danahsutton101]

I use to live in Alameda near Oakland. We all avoided Oakland becaude it is a dangerous place.

[@nicolinagallo]

I used to live on Merritt Ave in Oakland back in 2010. The area was *not* nefarious. Oakland is not a hotbed of crime and drugs the way everyone thinks, but the area around the lake can be dicey at night if you’re walking around alone. But there’s no neighborhood around there where you would drive to get out to buy drugs. It’s more likely a corrupt cop than a car jacker

[@sheilabaker3117]

Great video. Masterful story telling with lots of important detail. Oakland has become the crime capitol of the Bay Area. Anything could have happened. It is strange that her personal belongings were left behind and her car running.

[@zorazorazorzzora8333]

I remember this story from a long long time ago! Still missing sad …

[@CreativeKids2023]

Interesting!! I dont like when people just go ghost.... Like- What the hell happened to her? Good video!!

[@doloresbriseno2567]

I lived in LA around this time and services was horrible on cell phones. Supposedly there were not enough towers. I remember being in Burbank and trying to call a friend on my cell, only to get a message to try later. Even in my house, my cell phone worked better in the living room than in the back of the house. I have AT&T. So, cell phone service was not that great back then. I don't know if someone cut her off though. I do know that I used to lose service in the middle of call - even on the landline.

[@deshistoiremysterieuses8670]

I can't believe she left that day. She died in that appartment.

[@that_chicnic9645]

I feel like the brother accidentally killed her in a drug rage and he was dumping the body but when he got back to the car someone was around or he just forgot about the car altogether and he footed it back home....

[@reesedaniel5835]

The brother definitely had something to do with her disappearance. Even Barney Fife could figure this out...🙄😏

[@that_chicnic9645]

@@reesedaniel5835 😄Oh Barney Fife

[@pebystroll]

Unfortunately this sounds very much like a suicide

[@ACOUSTIC_4LOVE]

This tragic story is laden with instability. Unstable destructive relationships. A 2 thousand mile distant romance and a move to a city known to be unsafe.

[@reesedaniel5835]

And a drug addicted, abusive narcissistic brother...(what could possibly go wrong??)

[@megalou6567]

Maybe her brother left the car running and unlocked hoping it would be stolen and her disappearance would be blamed on someone else

[@sewmorelove]

This is a really really sad story. I feel for her. 😢

[@abayless3816]

Yes. When detoxing from alcohol one can not use products that contain alcohol.

[@always_b_natural703]

I just can't imagine! Poor Amanda and her family.

[@deirdre9746]

There was even a theory, at one point,that her brother had reached such a debt with drug dealers, that he had arranged for her to be kidnapped and trafficked.

[@MaeMae-vg8wo]

Something just doesn’t sound right about the brother’s behavior. Just doesn’t set right with me.

[@NLH77]

Such a sad story!

[@crystalphillips696]

She was such a beautiful young lady. Bless her soul.

[@lunagoodhart5489]

Calls dropping out or been disconnected even when there's full reception isn't unusual. It happens to me alot especially if I'm the one who made the call. It can also be dependent on the phone as. It can also have to do with how many other people are accessing the network at the same time.

[@roh5876]

Yeah, or battery could have died.

[@TheMattTrakker]

this was also 2007, cell technology was not nearly as good. Having dropped calls was not uncommon.

[@berthaford2152]

Sounds like an abduction to me. Obviously not a robbery .

[@Julie-45]

Very strange. I would think the Brother had to be involved

[@amiw9339]

❤️ great content & informative video! May God be with her family during this tragic situation.

[@crystalphillips696]

Sounds like her brother had something to do with her disappearance.

[@amyperazzo6287]

I'd suggest to check out the marinas and around the two bridges.. on the day she went missing one can research tides and such. Also human trafficking is prevalent all over and could be a strong possibility too. Sorry to hear this news. God help this family....

[@ZeldaRosenthal]

The brother!😢

[@jasongilman7270]

Maybe he owed the dealer’s money so they took her. Human trafficking is big in California

[@cat_spit]

There are at least a few angles here that warrant more investigation, but I do have to say - there are parts of Oakland where you mind your own business and don't see anything. Used to live there. Overall it's a great city, but it has some rough patches, like all big cities do.

[@vanillagator]

Very clearly her brother knows more than he is telling. Most likely, he is the one who made her disappear. They have this BIG fight. He is a crack head. Anger could easily arise in such a person. She goes for a drive right after. Her car is abandoned. She disappears and he is VERY reluctant to help out?? Yet he blames it on his drug issue. BS. This guy took her life. Sad. He will pay in the end, right?

[@speteydog2260]

Really sad. Life is so hard for young people in this country, with all the drugs that are here, and still coming. It does not help anything!!!!

[@brenda9228]

I empathize for Amanda. It’s hard to navigate a positive self perspective at times when life serves hard “lessons”. Then adding relationships to the mix is an emotional roller coaster. Especially if she was seeking help while dealing with adverse reactions. I pray for her/her family. Thanks for sharing these cases while giving us words of peace & motivation.

[@DIVISIONINCISION]

Life lessons are what make us stronger, Brenda, IF we survive them.

[@SHurd-rc2go]

She was a woman, who had many problems. Poor soul. But I know Oakland. These days, think Chicago.

[@5amH45lam]

Brother must've ran up some debt.

[@Aud2336]

I feel so sorry for this woman’s family depending on the corrupt, worthless Oakland Police Dept. Her family might want to make sure the OPD didn’t have a hand in it, before asking them for help. I truly hope she’s found safe & sound.

[@nicknickerson1912]

So sad , my prayers go out to all her freinds and those whom loved her.

[@ryanfritts1574]

Would love if you did one on my friend Eric sears mostly to talk about doing psychedelics in the backcountry is a bad idea

[@ryanfritts1574]

Joshua tree such a sacred place for me

[@susanharris5926]

I think it her brother was charged for her murder in the end.

[@annamichaelsdottir5834]

I don't think she left the Apartment.

[@shuvanidev]

I know this is old but I just listened to it. I think her brother's story is weak. If they had such a bad fight before she left she likely wouldn't have told him she was leaving - she would have just left. I think he may have chased her down or followed her. I think she was dragged out of her car at a stop or turn and taken somewhere else - probably close by. They will probably eventually find her remains, but I feel her brother had something to do with this. It's also suspicious that the family cleaned the place out before the police were able to gain access. But you see this with families who are protecting other family members. They lost one and they don't want to lose another even though the person had been responsible. We had a case like this here in our area where a brother killed his sister and the family covered for him. Eventually he was found guilty, but....... it was a long slog before they were able to get to that decision.

[@loribuchanan4126]

Thank u Bryan for your thoughtfulness in these cases! Prayers that Mandy will be found🙏 Prayers and hugs to her family 🙏❤️

[@johnpruett5258]

She may have been recklessly driving and cut someone off who caught up to her, made her stop and kidnapped her...somebody who happened to have a short temper.

[@poplap9241]

Ja, I believe her brother was involved in her disappearance. If he was’nt involved, he would have hidden his drugs and opened up the apartment for the investigators. He would have assisted in the seach for his sister. I believe he drove her car 9 miles to dump it and make it look liked she ababdoned her car.

[@rodalonso7805]

Hey so the neighbour's heard em fighting. Maybe I missed it but could they hear what they were fighting about ??? Sad her own brother couldn't be a better person. Shameless

[@Timber81]

Abducted? Forced off road and taken?

[@susieq6212]

In NY a woman was raped on a subway platform during rush hour, so waiting for people in a big city to help or say something to police is rare. Especially if you are in an area where the cartels rule.

[@williammurry461]

Sounds like a kidnapping and it does happen alot more than people think...

[@MusicEchos]

In the early years of my sister having schizophrenia, she would park her car in places that got it towed. She would be driving along seeing wild animals running along the road chasing her. African styled big animals like giraffes, elephants, or rhinos. She was very scared in her hallucinations and would tell me how they would hide along side the freeway watching for her.. She would just stop in the middle of the road and leave the car where it was.

[@dc8617]

Oh my Goodness. Taking drugs is a dark road. Personal and professional experience. Reasoning and logic has nothing to do with it. If they don't have a hit or not high they are the worst people to be around. Will have a breakdown if toast is not cooked the way they wanted. Seen them run onto road with speeding traffic and not looking left or right....scary to actually witness.

[@Dave-fx2hc]

I think if you just stood on her brother's throat somewhere around 1 minute and 45 second mark he would tell you where sisters body is at

[@Dogsrule777]

Wait a sec. They had a fight and then she left? That alone is pretty suspicious.

[@Fritz0616]

Thanks!

[@0kh0b07]

hey

[@hopewickersham9828]

i work with mandy’s mother. a woman in mexico is claiming to have the name Amanda Stokes, and does resemble mandy although it’s been 20 years so clearly she’s aged and changed a lot

[@KK-hq8jd]

Very strange indeed. Sex trafficking...or Sold into it, potentially by the addict brother? I feel for the mom & bf...not the sibs, they should have helped...just my thoughts

[@kathy888]

Yes, pretty girl, brother with his drugee friends, she was leaving herself open to God knows what. Stay away from drugees.

[@berthaford2152]

What did they find in the apartment. Also, why did it take so long to search the apartment ?

[@IanP1963]

It seems a complicated case !!!!

[@reesedaniel5835]

No it doesn't. Bubba did it.

[@jenn.neumann6414]

And I think her brother and sister had something to do with it

[@gilbertvega4012]

It's been 15 years wow Sin c e this happened and nothing yet wow

[@easygoer1234]

My comment isn't about this video. However there is a crime commited in eastern oregon that I really wish you could cover on your videos. It concerns Liysa Northon, who killed her husband ( a pilot) on a camping trip at Wallowa Lake in Oregon.i just wish Bryan that you could look into the case. Thank you.

[@sandypawz645]

How come the cops didn't spray luminol inside the brother house for any blood on the floor and walls?😐

[@darrenglick100]

🙏

[@claire111]

She was believed to be suicidal and the car was parked near a ravine. The simplest solutions are often the most likely.

[@colinsmith2005]

Quite stressful owing your dealer, having her, or him, turn up while your talking to your boyfriend.

[@cindyfarrell7556]

I don’t have a good feeling about the brother. I think he knows what happened to Mandy.

[@lifeisshort..1685]

Yay, so excited for a new story.

[@Loopylulu8]

Maybe the car died & she couldn't pull ovr properly, but yeah , she wasn't meaning to leave the car too long, if this happened in the morning &was only 9 minutes away why didn't anyone c this happen?? Seems like she got outta the car to score & they dragged her in their car, or maybe its a typical 411 where this has happend numerous times, especially to loan young woman, this sounds like abduction absolute 💯.....

[@jerrydrouillard]

I've had to leave a broken down car. I never left my wallet, ID, and anything valuable in the car. Also Bryan says the car was left running. Thst means it stalled after she disappeared.

[@annamichaelsdottir5834]

It's normally someone that you know that kills said a police officer to me that I know.

[@clairej2324]

The car looks like it was dumped (possibly after the fact) could the brother have killed her during the big row? Or was she seen since then? Thanks

[@summerrain7956]

She could’ve taking something and she had a bad reaction to it and died🥺Then they didn’t want the police in the apartment, they took her car and her personal items and left it there so it wouldn’t be at their place🥺

[@spacerat111]

A dropped call is a very different type of even from a mobile terminated call due to it being turned off. Unless it was the type of phone where you can literally yank out the battery (super rare nowadays). Weird the cops said that.

[@deirdre9746]

I have listened to a podcast ,in which the mother was interviewed ,and she is weirdly protective of her son, Mandy's brother..

[@reesedaniel5835]

Yes. She sounds like a Jezebel mother (covert narc)....I have this type of "mother" and my brother is her Golden Child. I was the Family Scapegoat (because I am not a narcissist like they are). I think the same scenario was with Amanda and her family. Narcissist mothers always idealize their sons and commit emotional incest with them (turn them into "son husbands") while neglecting and demonizing any other sibling who don't kiss their ass properly.

[@starfranklyn]

Sounds like someone else was in the car, cut off the call, told her pull over- get out etc.

[@deshistoiremysterieuses8670]

Definitely the brother

[@TheMattTrakker]

She went to score after having an argument with her brother, got out, maybe went into the car with the person she was buying from, either an altercation happened or he planned to kidnap her the whole time

[@suscon1140]

Cases like these are truly heartbreaking. ...I pray for this young woman and her family. I hope they get some answers. The wildcard, I guess, in this case is if she was also using and had become an addict. I am not saying it is what happened, If she did fall down that path then it opens up the possibility of owing a dealer money. If the police discovered something to that effect, or if she was tied to a dealer somehow (trying to get extra cash to move), then unfortunately the possibilities are numerous. I hope not, of course, and this is all just random thoughts. I heard about this case a few years ago, but it just occurred to me now to consider it from those possibilities....

[@karashahbazian1847]

What if someone was hiding in her back seat . Or A carjacking

[@angeliquebelluomini7797]

What was the weather that day? If she jumped out of her car to vomit it would explain the parking and belongings. Rain would wash vomit away. An opportunist could have grabbed her at that time.? So sad...

[@happytrails3]

Did they search the parks?