The disgusting career of Min Hee Jin

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Natasha Louise

Natasha Louise

Күн бұрын

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@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
If you see this as a newjeans hate video, don’t even bother commenting about it because refuse to argue. This video is about min hee Jin’s misconduct and half of this video literally has nothing to do with Newjeans. If you can’t separate MHJ from newjeans it’s not my issue. I never ONCE in this video blamed or even criticised newjeans. Or anytime on my channel entirely. Your brain is rotted and I refuse to waste my time arguing over minors getting exploited, you’ll just be removed. Thank you ❤
@mckha.b
@mckha.b 29 күн бұрын
Girl then go ahead and make a video on the Hybe audit! Why are you so afraid? Are you afraid of getting hated by Hybe stans?
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee 29 күн бұрын
@ …… afraid? HYBE stans already hate me anyway
@dollst4rzzz
@dollst4rzzz 29 күн бұрын
@@Natasha.Louisee we will be waiting for that video to! :D
@SadManyProductionsHD
@SadManyProductionsHD 29 күн бұрын
The Tokkis also hate you for sharing false information and only telling 1/3 of the story.
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee 28 күн бұрын
@@SadManyProductionsHD If my videos aren't good enough feel free to go and make your own
@skunkhunk
@skunkhunk 29 күн бұрын
mhj and nwjn's relationship is so innapropriate. imagine your 14-18 yr old sister working at a job where she called her 40+ yr old boss"mom" or "dad" and regularly hung out with them outside of work. it doesnt matter what line of work it is, mhj is crossing so many professional boundaries just by being THAT close with the girls. lee sooman (sms ex ceo) wasnt even this close with snsd, a group that had his NIECE in it
@O.O_9
@O.O_9 Ай бұрын
The fact that she had that quote about Hyein AND said somewhere a while back that Minji ”was even prettier when she was younger” like… that woman NEEDS to be put on some kind of watchlist
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
And yet people are blaming me saying “probably from dispatch” as if she didn’t literally say that herself and posted most of the things in this video on her own insta haha
@O.O_9
@O.O_9 Ай бұрын
@@Natasha.Louisee I respect the hell out of you for talking about stuff like this cause the lack of critical thinking skills amongst kpop fans would literally break me
@crisc1107
@crisc1107 Ай бұрын
A lot of ppl separated NJ from MHJ, and even HYBE did that, but the girls are ones who kept telling the public that them and MHJ are one entity. Now, it has come to the point that it's hard to separate the two when they don't want to be separated.
@majicweather4890
@majicweather4890 12 күн бұрын
I think NewJeans public defense of MHJ is nothing more than NewJeans showing what they believe is respect for their auntie that helped them realize creativity and success. But NewJeans will eventually grow and move passes MHJ in time ON THEIR OWN terms, and NOT because of hateful harassment from social media. It's about respect I think, and again NewJeans will naturally grow out of being dependent on MHJ guidance in due time. But I personally feel NewJeans is so defensive of MHJ publicly because they had legitimate strong creative professional relationship with MHJ, despite MHJ problematic past. New Jeans are focused on making great content, they aren't reading every MHJ conspiracy theory that's on X/twitter. New jeans experience with MHJ has been positive so their behavior is informed on that limited perspective. Remember that. And again, they are acting in ways that respect their elder auntie, that has never steered them wrong in their eyes. You may even cite the current prolonged battle with HYBE as enough evidence showcasing MHJ as putting NewJeans in harms way, but NewJeans isn't seeing it like that. NJ feels like a family member is being attacked, in a way. Think of it like that. We need to be sensitive to that and just support New Jeans. Cuz Hybe aren't behaving like angels themselves, Hybe CEOS and leadership have all been corrupt and problematic. Let's not forget that truth
@RCynic75
@RCynic75 Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the Dan Schneider of kpop. The youngsters may think they like working for her now, but in 5-10 years, they'll hopefully figure out how screwed up things were with that lopsided power dynamic
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
Wishing them so much love for the future. It’ll be so hard to deal with
@RCynic75
@RCynic75 Ай бұрын
​@@Natasha.LouiseeThank you so much for your take on this. I cannot help but see a pattern where power dynamics attached to a gatekeeper to one's hopes and dreams is akin to the rose tinted glasses phase of an abusive relationship. I think the saying is that with rose tinted glasses, red flags are difficult for the victim to spot.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove 29 күн бұрын
@@RCynic75 Also known as "Stockholm Syndrome."
@riffgroove
@riffgroove 16 күн бұрын
@abc_jv_xyz I don't think MHJ had nearly as much to do with those groups as she claims she did. "I invented SM's logo! I invented HYBE's slogan! I invented breathing!" I think she talked a big game to HYBE for them to woo her away from SM, only to very quickly learn why SM kept her on such a short leash. Her claim that she left SM because of "burnout" is obviously a crock. Like being CEO of a company was going to be LESS stressful or something. At this point I would be very skeptical of anything that woman claimed.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove 16 күн бұрын
@@abc_jv_xyz Yes, they tried to poach a bunch of SM's employees. I'm sure they're regretting MHJ, though.
@smyleeskylee
@smyleeskylee Ай бұрын
Min Hee-jin’s behavior is genuinely unsettling. The way she markets NewJeans, using their youth in such a calculated and exploitative way, says a lot about her priorities. It’s disturbing how she tries to mask this under the guise of “artistic vision,” when in reality, it feels predatory and manipulative. The members are so young, and it’s hard not to see this as grooming-normalizing something that’s far from okay. It’s honestly disgusting how someone like her has so much control and influence.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG Ай бұрын
I do think Newjeans concept overall is fire but moments like cookie and attention make that youthful concept feel so predatory. Not because a youthful concept is a problem but the brains behind it isn’t a girl who wanna make songs representing female youth with inspo from 2000s and 90s trends but… a weird 40+ year old women who is almost making stuff like cookie and attention in a very male gaze type energy.
@smyleeskylee
@smyleeskylee Ай бұрын
@AUGHHHHHBBG Exactly. A youthful concept isn’t inherently the issue-it’s the intent and perspective behind it. When you have a 40+ year-old woman like Min Hee-jin driving the concept with this weird male-gaze energy, it stops being about celebrating youth and starts feeling predatory. Songs like Cookie and even Attention aren’t just questionable because of their lyrics or vibe, but because they’re coming from someone clearly shaping them to appeal to an adult, male audience under the pretense of “art.” It’s gross and undermines the members’ identities and autonomy.
@cranburrey
@cranburrey Ай бұрын
Same woman that said she likes Minji as a minor...
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG 28 күн бұрын
@smyleeskyleeEXACTLYYY
@vjstigall
@vjstigall Ай бұрын
Bunnies treat MHJ like she’s a member of the group when she’s not. Whenever any criticism comes against MHJ/NJ people automatically think that you are a HYBE Stan. When a majority of the time most people aren’t. It annoys me so much when this happens.
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
Already being accused of being a HYBE stan when literally 2 videos back I was talking about how much I absolutely despise HYBE for very similar behaviour of what I’m mad at MHJ for in this video. There’s no objectivity left for people in this conversation unfortunately
@AReaderWhoLovesKpop
@AReaderWhoLovesKpop Ай бұрын
That is the only response that bunnies have left in their arsenal. Because till date nj has given us absolutely nothing of substance to fight against their so called mistreatment claims. This fandom is pathetic..
@ariz347
@ariz347 Ай бұрын
Bunnies can be dumb and delusional with their rose colored glasses on all they want to, but they’ll soon have to admit that MHJ is a horrible person who is responsible for the girls’ downfall; I mean, they’re already scrambling and eating their words with this whole contract termination situation. Seeing newjeans be failed even by their own fanbase and the biased media is just sad tbh
@kairalove5402
@kairalove5402 29 күн бұрын
I agree there are a lot of bunnies out there who are ruining nj's career by supporting mhj when she is only trying to take nj with her cuz she needs money but there are so many bunnies who hate mhj (me included). People need to understand that them hating on nj wouldn't make a difference cuz if it were that easy to get out of manipulation they wouldn't be ruining their well built career over her. They were left in the care of this female when they were all minors plus their parents support mhj. But on the other hand bunnies need to understand that supporting mhj and obsessing over nj will make people hate nj even more like how bts had so many haters along with supporters just cuz a lot of their fandom was oddly 'obsessed' with them
@flowers4jisoo
@flowers4jisoo 25 күн бұрын
My third fav group is newjeans and I have to agree. I don’t support mhj or hybe, only the groups
@Saevrnirs
@Saevrnirs Ай бұрын
This is so real hate seeing the NWJs stans acting like she's a saint
@bziar3898
@bziar3898 Ай бұрын
Battle of the unemployed emilys😂✌️
@Supershy822
@Supershy822 Ай бұрын
Nobody in their right mind thinks she’s a saint tf 😭😭
@rentaro8556
@rentaro8556 Ай бұрын
@Supershy822min heejin minions worship her every move and genuinely cant see her in a bad light at all
@cranburrey
@cranburrey Ай бұрын
And when you talk about it, they always bring up problematic things Bang PD did like that makes anything better 😭
@mariasol1545
@mariasol1545 Ай бұрын
@@rentaro8556 I got into an argument with a bunny because I told them new jeans were blacklisting themselves from the industry with everything they're doing and the bunny responded to me saying "mhj would SAVE them once they leave ador" LMAOOO that woman cares about no one but herself, also they're prob too old for her likes now
@Dallseul
@Dallseul Ай бұрын
I remember when most people weren’t happy when we first found out she would be working with NewJeans…crazy how much that changed in 2 years
@Chuckles_The_Echidna
@Chuckles_The_Echidna Ай бұрын
MHJ says stuff about NJs members in a way that makes her sound like the author of the HYBE documents
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
She talks about them like dolls 😂
@harleyrobb3034
@harleyrobb3034 Ай бұрын
Like when she called them fat? Like wtf MHJ?
@NewjeansLiveForever
@NewjeansLiveForever 29 күн бұрын
The dan Schneider of K-pop lol
@MarkusFeindt1
@MarkusFeindt1 Ай бұрын
I love NewJeans but the members have been so manipulated and gaslighted by Min Hee Jin so much I hope they realize one day she’s isn’t a great human being and she deserved punishment too
@froggy01012
@froggy01012 Ай бұрын
Tbh they are not babies most of them are adults and they have enough knowledge . So it ain't that easy to be manipulated unless they also support her by themselves.
@jsyoungluv
@jsyoungluv Ай бұрын
@@froggy01012are you seriously implying that only minors can be manipulated … it happened with fifty fifty, it’s happening with newjeans
@staybunnies-b9q
@staybunnies-b9q Ай бұрын
@@froggy01012 I get what your saying, but also only minji and hanni really recently turned adults (in korea). and this started happening well before they became adults. you quite obviousily don't know how grooming and manipulation works. They don't have alot of knowledge because they haven't been taught this stuff, even an grown adult who has no proper education on business will easily get manipulated it doesn;t just happen to minors.
@takozero.
@takozero. Ай бұрын
@@froggy01012newjeans havé been with MHJ since they were trainees. she’s been garnering their trust for years now and is slowly using that to manipulate them
@RCynic75
@RCynic75 Ай бұрын
​@@froggy01012I really see this more as a power dynamics issue in general instead of "minors or not minors." Since adults can fall into abusive power dynamics as well, this would imply that we can technically victim blame all of them for supposedly knowing better whenever an adult falls for any type of abusive relationship.
@book_beam957
@book_beam957 Ай бұрын
Thank you for covering the fact that MHJ has been a creep and a weirdo since her SM days. I feel like a lot of people forget that being at Source Music wasn't where she got her start and that she's been in the game for such a long time. It's important that people, especially newer Kpop fans, are aware of what her past work has entailed. She's been a weirdo with so many groups and with minors for as long as she's been in the industry.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove Ай бұрын
SM at least seemed smart enough to keep her on a leash the entire time she was there.
@book_beam957
@book_beam957 Ай бұрын
@@riffgroove Yeah there was no way in any timeline a company like SM would have let her roam as free as she did under Hybe. SM, for its many MANY faults, at least knew to keep her ego in check. Hybe really fucked up by letting her contract be as free as it was.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove 29 күн бұрын
@book_beam957 Definitely. What was going through their minds when they gave her an entire company to run is anybody's guess. Which also renders her story about leaving SM because of "burnout" even more ridiculous. Like also being CEO of a company was going to be LESS stressful or something. Anyways, the whole scenario makes me laugh now. Both sides are wishing they'd never heard of the other.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG Ай бұрын
Thank you for making this video because many people do not understand why many people view min heejin a bad person since they lack information on her past. There is something actually concerning with this girl and if the studio controversy wasn’t enough for everyone to side eye her I don’t know what will. I will also say related to this, Newjeans parents also are odd for supporting her despite things like cookie and the studio controversy. They should have also researched min heejin before signing Newjeans under her because if anyone had a record like her working with my child they can stay away.
@kayziofficial
@kayziofficial Ай бұрын
High key about the parents. Like I know other Bunnies criticized people for this, but getting mad at their parents (mostly Minji’s mother) for leaving their kids in a terrible environment in spite of their dreams was a valid thing to criticize. I don’t know if it’s because most trainees have got it in their head that they have to persevere through the toughest times to make it to the top but then again, I don’t even think that would make sense because then it would’ve never been a complaint in the first place.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG Ай бұрын
@@kayziofficial the thing about the parents too is like… when y’all heard cookie y’all didn’t do anything? Also like I said: Why didn’t they research her? I mean I know why because NJs parents are like many other child star parents and don’t really care about anything which allows their kids to get in messed up situations. We see it time and time again
@Terminallyposessed
@Terminallyposessed Ай бұрын
​@@kayziofficial Why Minji's mother mostly? Genuinely asking cuz I don't have time to try and piece all this drama together by myself atm
@rameshpant2819
@rameshpant2819 29 күн бұрын
@@Terminallyposessed I think her mother specifically made claims about how during trainee days minji's room had mold in it or something like that
@roanred555
@roanred555 29 күн бұрын
It's actually not odd for the parents to support her at all. You'd be surprised what parents are willing to allow so they can live vicariously through their famous children and/or receive monetary gain. I'm not entirely throwing their parents under the bus. However, I do think parents often allow the exploitation of their children if they feel it will be beneficial for them.
@ishathakor
@ishathakor Ай бұрын
a lot of these things could be excusable if they were unrelated to each other. if they were all done by different people you could see it as a mistake or a lapse in judgement or just not realizing how that would be inappropriate. but the fact that it's a pattern of behaviour for her is alarming. it might not be illegal but it's still gross and weird and creepy and wrong.
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
This is my exact argument about MHJ. Had only one of these things happened yeah it would be weird but it could be excused. The fact that she did all of these things leads me to believe she is just a sick person
@yui7530
@yui7530 Ай бұрын
Finally someone who has fully did deep dive on min heejin I feel like alot ppl forgot that she has manipulation/ and doing disgusting things other idol who are aslo victims of her.
@veila0924
@veila0924 Ай бұрын
I wouldn't even say this is a deep dive, there's even more 😢
@catnotmeow
@catnotmeow Ай бұрын
It's nice that someone makes a video with this amount of research but I wouldn't call it deep dive. This is pretty much surface level concidering the amout of things she got away with
@yui7530
@yui7530 29 күн бұрын
​@catnotmeow srry I might just dive into her past not deep dive it was typo
@yui7530
@yui7530 29 күн бұрын
​@veila0924 srry I might just dive into her past not deep dive it was typo
@KantorSaja
@KantorSaja 25 күн бұрын
​@catnotmeow by how shinee openly against her and former f(x) almost disgusted when hearing their song spoke alot
@kayziofficial
@kayziofficial Ай бұрын
As a bunny, I also am not too fond of MHJ myself. Certain shots of the Attention MV were completely inspired by a movie that is based around a girl who gets into sex work at a young age. EverglowUp has a video about it. I also don’t agree with how dependent the girls are on her. I understand she’s technically the brains behind their concept, but for them to feel that hopeless without her is really scary and kinda sad when you see how much potential all five of them have. Hybe is just as much shitty for more reasons than just hiring her but with everything that’s come out this year with this situation, I’m hoping the girls can still manage to get back to being idols and move past this monstrosity of a scandal.
@mocham9005
@mocham9005 27 күн бұрын
I thought they were saying they feel that they won’t be protected without MHJ because she was defending them from HYBE specifically. Don’t get me wrong she definitely groomed them and they don’t see it at all because well that comes with maturity and experience but HYBE is a SHIT company that’s literally gonna push NJ and their concerns to the side every chance they get so I kinda see why they said what they said
@starzies
@starzies Ай бұрын
This video is so needed because people dont understand MHJ has completely manipulated NWJNS. Its genuinely worrying.
@Imatastychickennugget
@Imatastychickennugget Ай бұрын
NJ, Vcha,RIIZE,Hyuna... So many thing going wrong this year🫠
@alliendisguise
@alliendisguise Ай бұрын
What really annoys me is that this woman was a controversial hire to begin with. Like appointing her CEO was a bad idea. And now because this woman has tried to get ADOR for herself she basically ruined the career of Newjeans and completely imploded the K-Pop scene. This has been going on for months now and the amount of artists that have been dragged into this is insane. And somehow MHJ has managed to shift the entire conversation from how this started to Newjeans. And still she can’t stop talking and dragging everyone down with her. It’s insane.
@2Bad4Youu
@2Bad4Youu Ай бұрын
The members' parents and relatives are equally to blame for enabling the exploitation of their own children, all for the sake of money. It’s unheard of for a K-pop company CEO to have informal discussions with a member's parents-if it were a manager, there could be some understanding, but a CEO’s direct involvement raises serious concerns. This unusual dynamic suggests there's more going on behind the scenes. Bunnies are blindly supporting the situation, endangering the girls rather than helping to free them from MHJ's control. The whole situation reeks of manipulation and self-interest at the cost of the members' well-being.
@ada_janset
@ada_janset 29 күн бұрын
exactly, i hold the parents equally as responsible and to blame in this situation but it seems like they have chosen profit first and then their children as second
@swedishbunny
@swedishbunny Ай бұрын
SHES A FREAK.
@cal529
@cal529 Ай бұрын
it is so nice to hear from a kpop fan with actual brain cells 😭🫶🫶 MHJ has a nasty obsession with children and the concept of youth and to blindly ignore that as many fans are doing is willful ignorance. people who are defending her are part of the problem and this is a disgusting issue throughout the industry, i loved new jeans and am heart broken things are going this way but i don't think it was going to end any other way.
@colorantartificiel3018
@colorantartificiel3018 Ай бұрын
Great video. This woman really created groups out of her fantasy of youth, she projected an ideal of what teenagehood should look like on young artists and got rewarded for it as a genius. She's not a genius, this is projection, she's a manipulating buisnesswoman to not say predator.
@TheMarauderOfficial
@TheMarauderOfficial Ай бұрын
makes things like the bubble gum video feel very voyeuristic, first time watching it i thought it was the members recreating the vibe of their childhoods, now i can so clearly see its min hee jin using them as dolls to recreate her own childhood. all art is projection of the artist but it becomes a point where it tips from introspective to self serving then aaallll the way over to making ur own fetish content under the guise of a music video
@ike9032
@ike9032 Ай бұрын
unfortunately I think a lot of bunnies will continue to ignore how much of a pervert mhj is and continue to root for her bc according to them if you hate hybe you HAVE to root for her and also shes the reason why their favs are so successful in the first place ig
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
Yeah apparently this video has made a me “HYBE stan” as if half of my channel isn’t talking about how absolutely shit I think HYBE is. Truly frustrating
@TheMarauderOfficial
@TheMarauderOfficial Ай бұрын
@@Natasha.Louiseemost of those stan accounts must be literal children who dont know any better, right? or paid bots lol
@Joonpathy
@Joonpathy 29 күн бұрын
When i say something like "I do not supoort newjeans worshipping a pedophile." under a video. Newjeans stans straight up call me HYBE stan. Like it's so weird how their fans are so much in support of Newjeans' actions. Its absolutely crazy.
@hbrant
@hbrant Ай бұрын
I dislike Bang Si-hyuk for letting her in to Big Hit in 2019 and when they acquired Source Music she was appointed as creative brand officer. Her problems with minors is one thing, but her greed is on a whole other level. She has accused BTS and Big Hit for plagiarizing EXO's school boy concept through SM as a shield in 2014 when BTS released Skool Luv Affair. Back then it wasn't clear who was behind the claims from SM and 10 years later she does it to ILLIT without factual grounds. She likes to mediaplay and get attention for her toxic lies by swaying public opinion (through manipulation). She is a disgrace to the entertainment industry and Bang Si-hyuk was stupid enough to hire her.
@sarahndipity_7
@sarahndipity_7 Ай бұрын
I appreciate that you criticized BSH without mentioning his weight. It's crazy how every comment that mentions him has an insane amount of fatphobia in it.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG 29 күн бұрын
@@sarahndipity_7no cus right like a lot of BSH hate is rooted in being fat phobic and attractiveness
@trueorfalse3736
@trueorfalse3736 Ай бұрын
The lollipop scene in hypeboy always made me feel icky. Even if MHJ wasn’t their creative director, sucking a lollipop is such a common sexual innuendo in film. A male audience very well knows they aren’t really seeing a lollipop.
@t0ph4t10
@t0ph4t10 Ай бұрын
Know min heejin it's definitely a reference to Lolita (1962)/(1997). Which really says a lot.
@booqqa
@booqqa 29 күн бұрын
their debut mvs are so creepy. it just seems like teens going to a party and having a crush but it feels uncomfortable depicting it like that? there was one scene where it looks like one of the members are taking dr*gs wtf
@faeriegraver
@faeriegraver Ай бұрын
Fantastic video. I really appreciate you bringing the focus back to MHJ and talking about her disturbing past work at SM. With the NewJeans press conference announcement that their contracts were terminated, the media and content creators are focusing on NewJeans, it's NewJeans v Ador/HYBE. But it's clear that this has always been about MHJ from the beginning, and specifically these demands that she is reinstated as CEO. She was even given a creative director role but this wasn't good enough. At SM she was never the CEO, so it's absurd. I was watching a livestream from a K-tuber the other week and in the live chat I said that I can no longer listen to NewJeans because everything with MHJ has soured them for me. I was called a hater! Taemin is my ult. The Sherlock photoshoot is so disturbing. Regarding Brooke Shields (I'm paused at 7:18 so perhaps this is mentioned) I remember around the time NewJeans debuted MHJ did an interview where they took pictures of where she lives and she spoke about the decor. The Cookie controversy was already raging - rightly IMO - and then this interview added fuel to the fire because she had a nude photograph of Brooke Shields on her wall. IIRC Brooke was around 12 when she did that photoshoot. Additionally she had a vinyl of a controversial Serge Gainsbourg song.
@giovannabenso1754
@giovannabenso1754 Ай бұрын
I find MHJ a real creep since I saw Sherlock photoshoot. The only reason I can imagine she was recruited by Hybe is that she was good in playing victim and was manipulative. BSH is human and in this case he made a mistake. I am sure he knows very well...
@elizico
@elizico Ай бұрын
while i do agree in a way you also have to keep in mind that man has a bad history as well
@rural.craving
@rural.craving Ай бұрын
Two groups from SM that associated with MHJ have members who committed suicide.
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
I thought this. But I didn’t wanna be disrespectful of the dead and use their names to push a point against MHJ. I didn’t want it to seem like that, but it’s definitely something to think about
@0928haize
@0928haize 28 күн бұрын
Their deaths had nothing to do with MHJ, both jonghyun and Sulli suffered from depression and trying to make a connection of their deaths to mhj is disrespectful and downplaying their suffering, grow up
@justsomeone6517
@justsomeone6517 28 күн бұрын
That had nothing to do with her??? Why are yall so weird. Leave them alone.
@tsukasa6364
@tsukasa6364 Ай бұрын
I just hate that I can't be pro newjeans without being accused of being pro mhj. I cant be anti-hybe without being pro mhj. I cant be pro-illit without being accused of being anti-newjeans. I really think most kpop fans need to just sit back, shut up, and stop bullying the children.
@starzies
@starzies Ай бұрын
Facts. You've described my stance perfectly. Pro-artist, not pro-industry. Idk what's hard to understand.
@camila1529
@camila1529 Ай бұрын
It's also extremely disturbing how the members and MHJ have this "mother-daughters" relationship that was started by MHJ, and that's encouraged by the fanbase. It's not healthy nor normal to view your "superior" (in this case, the CEO herself) in this light. There's a clear unbalanced power and dependency game here.
@TheMarauderOfficial
@TheMarauderOfficial Ай бұрын
i got really into newjeans very quickly earlier this year, after a few days listening noticed how weird cookie was, looked into min hee jin’s business practices and was thinking “yea thats very bad, but thats unfortunately typical of the industry.” aaaand then i found the brooke shields stuff. i remember feeling my stomach actually drop, cause amongst certain awful types of people, openly discussing things like the early career of Brooke shields is a very loud dog whistle stating their interests to anyone else who knows. it should go without saying the exploitation and fetishisation of idols in the kpop industry is never good and must stop, but people like min hee jin specifically, dont wanna catch a slander case here but she is absolutely pdf file coded at the very least and needs to be away from the poor members of newjeans. shit she probably needs to be in jail for the personal and economic safety of korean girls in general.
@riffgroove
@riffgroove 29 күн бұрын
@TheMarauderOfficial I remember when an interviewer asked her why she would have such a picture up on the wall in her own home and she said "A friend gave it to me." Bish, they didn't ask *who gave it to you.*
@Stay_Zerose
@Stay_Zerose 29 күн бұрын
The only thing I am sure of is that literally every single adult in these girls lives have failed them. Not a single person has done their job protecting them when they were kids and now. This goes for MHJ, HYBE and the Parent's who all sat around and let MHJ very obviously groom these girls for a paycheck
@rachey-fi2cy
@rachey-fi2cy 29 күн бұрын
it’s actually incredible to me the amount of hate I am seeing for newjeans online, I see things like “they’re so dumb for throwing away their careers” when it is so clear to see that this woman is manipulating them. These girls are 100% victims and it’s disgusting the way kpop fans have no empathy for these literal children. Ofc they are going to defend her, ofc they will choose to go down with her. This is how victims behave, they cannot see what is wrong with the relationship. But even putting all that aside, the moment MHJ started this feud, we knew hybe was gonna shelve them. Like either way they’re screwed… all I know is that 15 yrs down the line, these girls are gonna look back on how the adults and the world absolutely failed in protecting them
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG 29 күн бұрын
THIS.
@HailToTheMeep
@HailToTheMeep 29 күн бұрын
The only adults who have the moral duties to protect them are their PARENTS. Let’s remember that.
@rachey-fi2cy
@rachey-fi2cy 29 күн бұрын
@@HailToTheMeep their parents are the primary people responsible for their protection ofc but I would hope that the company who has these girls in their hands majority of the time would have taken some sort of responsibility to care for them. Is it unethical and are their parents the ones who allowed them to pursue fame? Yes ofc. But in the less than ideal situation of them being cared for by their company, they would have faired better with at least some sort of concern abt the relationship with MHJ from other authority figures they are around constantly. Someone to say “Hey maybe this relationship is a bit strange” and you know… separate them?
@Yveszine
@Yveszine 29 күн бұрын
she said in the conference ,"minji was more beautiful when she was younger" that girl is just 20....
@stephflwr
@stephflwr 14 күн бұрын
I rmbr listening to that as she was saying it live and I was so disturbed, it was a completely unnecessary comment 😭
@viheart
@viheart Ай бұрын
I feel like she purposefully scouted as many young members as possible because they are easier to mold and manipulate and it's going to plan, she had a say in their careers now they believe they are nothing without her. She had input in their contract with ADOR as CEO and I feel her plan all along from the jump is to have NJ to herself with these loopholes hidden in there, that why NJ think they can just walk away from the contract MHJ knows what is in it. Everything around her is so shady.
@yui7530
@yui7530 29 күн бұрын
I heavily agree with this, especially since I am pretty sure she was was supposed to be le sserafim creative directed by her but she refuse as she believed Sakura was too old
@rhythmelia
@rhythmelia 19 күн бұрын
Sakura had already been in the entertainment industry for a while, experienced enough that she wouldn't have been as easily steamrolled and manipulated, so a less preferred target.
@HailToTheMeep
@HailToTheMeep 29 күн бұрын
There is no HYBE vs NJ. There has only ever been HYBE vs MHJ.
@tomixxlola
@tomixxlola Ай бұрын
The way she talked about the NewJeans member and "bathing in her energy" reminded me of how Humbert Humbert described Lolita in the Lolita novel...she doesn't even see them as real people and she's a total freak. I wonder if the members will ever look back at it and realize it, and if they do I hope they can heal from all of this.
@CCOHA-1
@CCOHA-1 Ай бұрын
I wanna say that MHJ and Hybe are both the problem. MOST bunnies are too, but I recently saw a post by a bunny on YT that I’ve never agreed with more. “Defending MHJ is wrong, you shouldn’t defend an entitled criminal. Defending Hybe is wrong, you shouldn’t defend a greedy business.” A lot of people still defend MHJ’s past when she literally managed teenage girls at the same time she was posting an illegal movie about p@dophilla. That is just disgusting.
@AUGHHHHHBBG
@AUGHHHHHBBG Ай бұрын
Definitely. I don’t get the sides thing in this issue. Luckily I been on the side of social media with people who are neutral or team artist (illit, lsfm, and newjeans but for Newjeans they mean they want them to hopefully get a better environment instead of being used as a shield for MHJ mess).
@sisisworld
@sisisworld Ай бұрын
Greedy business? Really...guys all companies IN THE WORLD has only one goal: MAKING PROFIT. Hybe is far from being full of saints but as far as we can have a grasp are far away to be the worst out ther (JYPE is running for the 1st spot - search about KG (ex-VCHA) lawsuit).
@sarahndipity_7
@sarahndipity_7 Ай бұрын
I remember when Ador was announced in 2021 I wasn't familiar with MHJ but K-pop Twitter was already discussing her past behavior around minors idk how NWJ fans claim not to have heard about this
@space_theatre3995
@space_theatre3995 Ай бұрын
3:13 thank you for saying that because whenever I mention these small, common, occurrences everyone says it means nothing. However these small actions add up to a very large number, and mhj has done some bad stuff.
@baby.ribz.
@baby.ribz. Ай бұрын
thank u for posting this :( mhj acts like such a predator but the industry just seems to love it
@avaxsp2880
@avaxsp2880 Ай бұрын
yea mhj definitely has predatory energy… there are way too many instances of her doing/promoting questionable (at the very least) things. i hope bunnies eventually understand that holding her accountable doesn’t equate to being a “new jeans hater.” i love the members, but their efforts to defend mhj despite her actions isn’t the best decision.
@icerose8411
@icerose8411 Ай бұрын
Looking into MHJs career at SM, this women couldn't do anything without being creepy. To my knowledge she only was in charge of one music video for SUJU, Devil in 2014. The music video as a whole was well received. This was until ELFs found out the actress playing the "sexy secretary" was 14 years old and approved by MHJ. It's crazy to me that everything she touches ends up with some sort of creepy under tone but people try to defend her because other people where involved. people need to realize the the common link between all of this is MHJ, even if other peoples names are on it. I also agree that all of this that she does is purposeful. You cannot have Brooke Sheilds be one of your biggest sources of inspiration, and not know about the discorse surrounding minor exploitation that comes with her. The fact that she highlights these situations with minors at the center, but discreetly hides the exploitation problem that comes with it is turely concerning.
@rhythmelia
@rhythmelia 19 күн бұрын
Ugh she was behind the Devil MV? I was sooooo creeped out when it came out that the actress was so young, dressed up like a sexy adult to play a role like devil/succubus/seductress for the guys from SuJu to interact with. I wonder if they knew at the time of filming it....
@whatsasleepschedule6376
@whatsasleepschedule6376 Ай бұрын
Im honestly just worried about the example she might set in the industry to blur the lines of an employer and employee relationship and more of a personal one while heavily pushing themselfs into the groups indenty so that no matter what the groups fans will defend them. Company stans already exist imagine how much worse it will get
@Pinkclouds512
@Pinkclouds512 Ай бұрын
1000/10 thank you. I keep saying that MHJ had a history and I feel like I’m screaming into the void. Thank you for mentioning SHINEE, people forget about how weird it was. This was a great video, I appreciate you giving us visuals and being on camera instead of just putting a bunch of words into a text to speech app.
@t0ph4t10
@t0ph4t10 Ай бұрын
8:54 something that has always disturbed me regarding this is that knowing mhj the lollipop is definitely a reference to Lolita (1997)/(1962). And that the hair styling is either also a reference to Lolita (1997) or Léon the Professional (1994). Like you said, if it was just something little, it could be seen as an accident, but knowing mhj even little things like this are intentional.
@jacksonslovelybobssoul6766
@jacksonslovelybobssoul6766 7 күн бұрын
Exactly !! There are so many lolita references in newjeans mvs if you look closely
@stantripleSmamamoo
@stantripleSmamamoo 28 күн бұрын
Thank you for this video! I am so glad to hear straight up facts and sane thoughts about this situation. Also, thanks for uncovering f(x) members' disturbing moments with MHJ, since I've known about her making a strange concept for Red Velvet.
@soniamic3000
@soniamic3000 29 күн бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. It's seems like the whole fandom has been redesigned to protect MHJ and not the girls. Even from within the fandom spaces, if you criticize her, they start to treat you like a traitor or something. It has become such a toxic fandom.
@gonetothecringeabyss3583
@gonetothecringeabyss3583 29 күн бұрын
Im so curious. For those people who keeps defending that woman, what did they look at and think " oh, she's def innocent. "? It's so obvious that she's the whole pdf file package.
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee 29 күн бұрын
I genuinely can’t comprehend how anyone can see even ONE of the things in this video and think “oh yeah she’s definitely not a weird person”
@andrea92023
@andrea92023 29 күн бұрын
I once see a thread on Twitter "proving wrong" mhj PDF behavior and the whole thread was " she didnt know about the movies of the pictures on her studio, it was a gift from a friend" "there's nothing wrong with red velvet concept and shiine Sherlock photos because the idols never complain it" "cookie is about cds" i laughed reading it
@flavinhalilpinscher
@flavinhalilpinscher Ай бұрын
So glad you made this video because it's getting so annoying to see NewJeans fans run to Min Heejin's defense all the time because in their mind NewJeans and Min Heejin is one unit when no, you can criticize Min Heejin without talking about the NewJeans members themselves. It feels like even NewJeans is supporting this thought of Min Heejin = NewJeans which is wrong. Just because she was the brains behind their concept and everything doesn't mean they can't move on without her as an artistic vision, things can and are allowed to change. Min Heejin is not some genius at the end of the day. Her style can be recreated or worked upon to create something even better
@Cyann-kq
@Cyann-kq Ай бұрын
I had no idea she was involved with Shinee, but all the pieces are coming together. I absolutely hated their styling, and could not believe that somehow that mess was allowed. They looked ridiculous and I found their looks and styling deeply unsettling , although I couldn’t exactly tell why. Now I am quite a bit older than the typical kpop fans, so I just figured that must be it. I could not stand to look at them, although I would listen to them. So much in this is disturbing, especially knowing how distraught Jonghyun was in his career. We know what happened there. Add to the strangeness, her use of witchcraft with shamans, placing men under spells and such, to get them under her control. The only appropriate place for this woman is in the pits of hell.
@ariz347
@ariz347 Ай бұрын
It’s so annoying that anyone with a brain that criticizes mhj or nj is immediately seen as a hybe stan or nj anti; It’s unreal just how willingly obtuse and ignorant bunnies are being about the situation. The reality is that hybe sucks AND mhj is a manipulative weirdo while njs has been caught in the crossfire due mhj’s yapping and their unwavering support of her. It’s also bothering me that the media and kpop stans are so pro njs just for the sake of being anti hybe, even when they’re dead wrong. Those girls have been lead down a hot mess of a path by mhj, team bunnies, their fans and their stage parents; And all I can do is just shake my head in disbelief and disappointment
@ada_janset
@ada_janset 29 күн бұрын
i think your comment about min heejin thinks she is a legit member of the group is so true! i also had the same inclination. I think she vicariously lives through the girls
@sweetification
@sweetification 8 күн бұрын
Seeing new jeans supporting min heejin makes me lose so much respect for them honestly
@ArmantoAlex13
@ArmantoAlex13 Ай бұрын
There’s no big piece of information waiting in the wings; there’s no ’gotchya’ moment that NJ is magically going to reveal. And that’s all I’ll say about that.
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
I’ve definitely been blindsided before. So I now prefer to wait until it’s closed to voice my options or even make up my own mind about it
@ArmantoAlex13
@ArmantoAlex13 Ай бұрын
@ I respect that.
@sawerazahid4851
@sawerazahid4851 29 күн бұрын
I have pointed this out so many times that mhj is a groomer that will ruin the girls.... Same scenario as Brooke Shields. But nobody wants to listen. When unfortunately their idols do come out with abuse allegations 10 years later, you will see these fans crying.
@geeeu11
@geeeu11 27 күн бұрын
cause God forbid a fan calls out MHJ's actions, notices newjeans' inconsistancies and critisces hybe for handling this stupidly. like most bunnies should actually try thinking for themselves and not what MHJ says in a press conference. newjeans are clearly victims of grooming and power imbalance with MHJ
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee 27 күн бұрын
This is what I hate about the kpop fandom. You either 100% ride or die for them and never question anything, support blindly or you're "hating" on them
@chelleange1s
@chelleange1s Ай бұрын
my thing with her relationship with the members is that - YES - it would still be creepy if she was just their creative director or manager but it's even more egregious given she (was) their ceo. she has full control/authority over what the girls do throughout their day. planning their schedules, figuring out their finances & much more. i'm happy that the girls feel comfortable around her & she's done what should be the bare minimum or the standard within the industry. giving ur idols much needed breaks, but i also think she has crossed some boundaries. like allegedly hanging out with the girls in a hotel alone? or calling them & their parents crying abt how she might end her life. or even making them the face of this debacle when it had nothing to even do with them. i wish the girls had someone else in their corner who'd advocate for them and was able to seperate the two.
@cw5437
@cw5437 Ай бұрын
Companies change management all the time. I'm not sure why NJ would give up their careers instead of just accepting a new manager. This wasn't their fight. They are paid by the company, not her. They are weirdly attached to her. I hope nothing more sinister is going on because this looks like classic grooming.
@ignaciotorovillacura6342
@ignaciotorovillacura6342 29 күн бұрын
I saw a video saying basically that now with the hype documents scandal, minheejin was right all along and hybe was the villain. Thanks for reminding us who MHJ is and what she has done regardless of the hybe fiasco.
@ada_janset
@ada_janset 29 күн бұрын
i uplaud you for your comments, i think your analysis is very level headed. Beyond breaching the healthy relationship barrier minors could have with adults she also breaches the barrier a normal employer would have with their employee. The part where hyein and she had spent a time like that sends chills to my spine. Like the neglect their parents are doing is quite concerning. It seems like everyone had put profit over these girls' well being
@ITSLEMOON
@ITSLEMOON 28 күн бұрын
I like the way rabbits try to gaslight us into thinking we are the disgusting ones pointing out how disgusting cookie is, when mind you, voldemort HERSELF said that she consulted with English professors, native English speakers, and experts on this topic. Tell me how the hell did no one understood or at least had a sense of how inappropriate the lyrics are?
@megabolt-s6n
@megabolt-s6n Ай бұрын
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@siddhisalvi1628
@siddhisalvi1628 29 күн бұрын
People be like b...b..but she is fighting against evil corporate, no she is not fighting for nj againt evil company she is fighting for herself so she would get advantage. Also yes nj are manipulated but that does not mean its right for them to support mhj to the point they are ready to destroy their own career, especially motivating and white washing her crimes by supporting her the allegations she got after this drama are huge not some random allegations it's not it both the fandom and idols themselves to support this also not to forgot with the new allegations of nj's manager tried to contact advertisers behind adores back and nj being so protective and supportive of these people just points that there are chances that they and their parents are more deeper in this than we see, the only victims in this are illit and ls who got and are still getting dragged to shit when they just want to be normal idols.
@booqqa
@booqqa 29 күн бұрын
do they genuinely think she's not doing this for the money lmao
@siddhisalvi1628
@siddhisalvi1628 29 күн бұрын
@booqqa the way they say and write does seems like mhj is doing social survice and just her but her while crew 🙂😂🧙
@gamer_jay6987
@gamer_jay6987 Ай бұрын
I honestly think most of them (Bunnies) are defending her is because the NJ members are sticking up and defending her like, NJ members are HUMAN beings they can make mistakes and have bad opinions that people can disagree with but still like their music or defend the wrongs done to them. Some of which I strongly believe MHJ is also partially responsible but Bunnies like to blame the newer CEO who was not even Ceo when most of those happened just because she was Pro Hybe and actually did her job. Also like people also keep saying that NJ are innocent little flowers who can do no wrong, and honestly at first sure and they have a right to feel hurt and express their opinions and its just got Tiring right now as they are just pointing Figures and using their fandom to attack Hybe with no other evidence. Like at this Point MHJ has hurt them more than Ador. Hybe has its problems and so do ADOR like every corporate company (And yes for the Bunnies who are still disagreeing they are separate companies even if Hybe is the Parent Company) its just that their info was leaked and others companies aren't and yet those companies like to take advantage and Burn their rival company as though they aren't probably most likely doing the same things. and honestly NJ and MHJ have recently been the ones doing the media play so its getting harder to find any redeemable things. but to still defend MHJ is like WTF. The members (4 of which are legal adults and Bunnies like to say are so smart should be able to see what's Wrong with this woman. Sorry for Rant Natasha and thank you for the Informative opinion about MHJ past with Red Velvet I heard about the Shinee one but forgot about Red Velvet as well Crazy.
@frutilla7739
@frutilla7739 Ай бұрын
It is the small mind of the blind fan what allows MHJ to still look like a "good person" when she is reason number 2 on why NewJeans career ended so early (didn't say number 1 because I blame the parents most of all, THEY had the responsibility of looking for their kids' wellbeing).
@ikeeneye
@ikeeneye 29 күн бұрын
It's 2024 and people still defend 'Cookie'...
@vittoriocavalli3053
@vittoriocavalli3053 22 күн бұрын
the thing that personally bothers me the most however is how did the parents of the girls not notice anything wrong with mhj? How did they not notice the way their daughetrs were being manipulated by this woman?HOW DID THEY LET THEMSELVES BE MANIPULATED BY HER? How did they defend a song like cookie knowing more than well all the innuendos giving the fact that they are adults? I just hope that the girls will be okay in the future and won't regret anything. P.S. Great video as always❤
@gabriellapietrakowski3429
@gabriellapietrakowski3429 Ай бұрын
I didn't know about mhj past untill this video, but I remember one of early nj scandal was the inappropriate clothes and other stuff (like shirt words). after that she gave me such a weird vibe and I had a huge gut feeling that she was a pdf file (can't say the word but a weirdo to kids). Feels odd that I've been proven right and she is still supported by so many people, like what can't they see, it's so obvious
@Fallencity01
@Fallencity01 Ай бұрын
I truly believe she’s groomed those girls to gain their trust and loyalty. I think she’s disgusting and I can’t support NWJ when they’re following someone like her. I just hope they realise it sooner rather than later, but it’s unlikely if they’re still actively keeping contact
@booqqa
@booqqa 29 күн бұрын
in her leaked chats with her shaman she literally talks about which trainees are "easiest to control"
@Fallencity01
@Fallencity01 29 күн бұрын
@ that’s so disgusting. I feel so bad for those girls TT
@AReaderWhoLovesKpop
@AReaderWhoLovesKpop Ай бұрын
Thank you for doing the work that bunnies should have done to understand the backlash against mhj. Tbh, when this whole thing started, it has been very obvious (to me) that the girls were all groomed by mhj and that is why they are all standing with her. However, as this saga keeps continuing on and the actions of the girls keep getting worse and worse.. it just makes me wonder.. does being groomed excuse their behaviour? Cos their behaviour is also a reflection of their character…
@soupnoodle4983
@soupnoodle4983 Ай бұрын
Omg finallyyyyyy!!!!!! 🫶I Hope people Will stop calling me a hybe stan for saying I don’t like mhj 💕
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
Literally~ I don’t even know how liking MHJ is even socially acceptable let alone making you a “HYBE stan” to dislike her for being a creep
@cuckoophendula8211
@cuckoophendula8211 Ай бұрын
@@Natasha.Louisee False dichotomies are a difficult thing to shake off for those who don't know better :p
@Eli0223
@Eli0223 Ай бұрын
Finally someone who see’s it
@lealarsen2017
@lealarsen2017 Ай бұрын
finally a rational person talking about mhj. i remember when people talked about the cookie lyrics and that was so disgusting to me and i digged a little and found out about the shinee incidence and that she was fired from sm. but you forgot about her resent kakao msg revealing how she picked the members and said most of them was to old and she kept the youngest. and she talked about how the youngest was so pretty unlike how she is today. if her aging made her ugly. also the way mhj talked about how she seduced a hybe emplyee to get her way. and then there is the way she looks. i mean she is obviously aiming to be as young looking as she can. but that is a trait all koreans have, so that alone is not a red flag. but combined it with all the other things we know it is.
@eileencritchley4630
@eileencritchley4630 Ай бұрын
The more I know about her the more my 'Safe Guarding' Alarms go off.
@milicamo
@milicamo Ай бұрын
Omg the queen posteddd
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
Ahhhh thank you
@mocham9005
@mocham9005 27 күн бұрын
The way I actually felt sick to my stomach and very nauseous thinking about everything disturbing MHJ has done over decades! Not only catering to her pedo-ness but also the other disturbing people out in the world!! I honestly didn’t know this much information on her but thank you for your hard work! I hope with all my heart all the K-pop girlies and guys will be okay and safe from people like this in the entertainment industry and outside of it 😢 wishful thinking if you will
@citizencr4o
@citizencr4o Ай бұрын
damn I am so ignorant to so many things in k-pop and tend to only notice the positive things about k-pop often. I knew a little bit about MHJ and her 'fondness' (trying to not use harsh words here) for youth, but didn't realize the depths at which she went to during her time at SM. Your channel has enlightened me about a lot of things and i appreciate it.
@Allthejournals
@Allthejournals 29 күн бұрын
The fact that children are defending Mhjs actions speaks to her ability to groom young, naive girls who simply do not have the life experiences to know better. MHJ is preying on the bunnies ignorance just like she did with NJs .
@sunnyonthebeach
@sunnyonthebeach 29 күн бұрын
i hope New Jeans reconsider breaking their contract. They should just stay with Hybe and ride it out to 2029. It's already 2025. Only 4 more years. They will have millions and will be 25 years old when it all ends. They can go into any venture since they are still young. It would be sad if they broke their contract, lost their name, and owes millions. They would be made fun of in the end by their fans who are not going to be loyal to them long term. If they break their contract bunnies will support them but after 1 year or 2 they will all be saying they should have just stayed with Hybe.
@gyuutuie
@gyuutuie Ай бұрын
FIRST SO HAPPY U POSTED THIS
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
Thanks for being here ~ ❤️
@somethingabutu
@somethingabutu 7 күн бұрын
It's actually so disgusting how she's taking advantage of the girls, saying that "they'll be nothing without her". I find it so odd that I haven't heard any of this earlier on, because I've seen a lot of people defending Min Hee Jin, saying that NWJNS are in the right for acting the way they are. I honestly think they're been exploited, especially since they're were going to debut before Le Sserafim in Source Music but it didn't work out. I think it might of started from there, but that's just my guess. It's really sad being a Bunny and seeing other Bunnies acting like MHJ is a saint, when she's clearly a freak and weirdo who likes to sexualise MINORS before and after NJWS. I wish more people see this video and see what kind of person MHJ truly is.
@Miraiana
@Miraiana 29 күн бұрын
I want to try to separate MHJ and NJ from each other, but I fail to do so when members like Danielle and Minji behave the way they behave in public. Danielle having her mouth full of MHJ when the topic isn't even related to her, and Minji being very VERY rude to adults (specifically reporters who came to their conference) when being polite to adults is one of the main points of Korean culture. I can't see them as anything else but brats whose egoes got so inflated they fail to see what's in front of them. Sure, MHJ is the root cause of it all, and I can understand Hyein being that way, but the older members? I hope they come to their senses soon, because their career is so over and they're not even aware of it. I genuinely like their music and style, but as many people said, they're not irreplaceable.
@lararalirarara
@lararalirarara 3 күн бұрын
ty for this as a reminder of all her reciepts. like, some stans need to DO THE MATH.
@bekahchu4102
@bekahchu4102 28 күн бұрын
Wow. This is making me realize just how weird she is and how sadly some of my favorite groups and songs are linked to this disgusting stuff. I defended Ice Cream Cake back when i released I was also a teenager I love New Jeans now but I do always side eye the song Cookie but I had HOPED it was an issue of a Kpop company buying an English song making it into Korean and not understanding the hidden innuendos or meanings due to the language barrier this is super weird though I hate this. You can show youth and innocence in your art without sexualizing it at all and if MHJ was just doing that like I THOUGHT she was I'd have no issue with it but this....ew. Why are so many great creative minds involved with this stuff? Like Lana Del Rey love her but her strange obsession with Lolita when she first started her career was disturbing and so overt it led a lot of her fans to romanticize it? Which could be an issue of she was making art for adults and the subtleties and critique would fly over a teen fan's head but in Kpop it IS marketed to teenagers mostly so they put that in for who exactly? what is the purpose? That's disturbing. Is Min Hee Jin the Dan Schneider of Kpop?
@chaewonsglasses
@chaewonsglasses Ай бұрын
This was the most talked about shit and I still can't wrap my head around everything that happened. 2024 is the year of the upmost exposè.
@Biirrrrrrrrr
@Biirrrrrrrrr Ай бұрын
Omg I also feel like there is a key peice that we don’t know about. But at this point I’m just waiting for the outcome. Too much contradicting information.
@warren_r
@warren_r Ай бұрын
Source Music said at one point that they're sitting on a lot of evidence. I imagine they're just waiting for the lawsuits to proceed. They have to be careful because of Korea's strict defamation laws.... in SK you can be punished for saying truthful things about people that make them look bad.
@harleyrobb3034
@harleyrobb3034 Ай бұрын
How I feel is sad because it’s clear that MHJ is a terrible person who has manipulated a group of teens and young adults. Lead them to think they can just walk away from a contract Scott free. A woman who has caused hate towards other groups. Ilit especially has suffered badly from this from what I have heard. They can’t see that MHJ is just using them for her sick desires and her own ego. I just wish someone around them would see this. And try to get through to them. Yeah MHJ copied the girl group Jeans and was their creative director. But a concept is nothing if the idols cannot execute it. The members of NJ are talented and can in fact survive without her. Also the Hybe Stan thing just pisses me off. We are allowed to be critical of MHJ and also not support NJ’s decision because we can see it’s not the right decision to make. Because that woman will ruin their dreams of being idols.
@IndigoDetry
@IndigoDetry 29 күн бұрын
as soon as you said Brooke shields i literally screamed no out loud
@filpunzalan5106
@filpunzalan5106 8 күн бұрын
You have more sense and realistic point of view. You gained a new follower. Ive learned so many first here. ❤
@RotaryMC24_Hello
@RotaryMC24_Hello 16 сағат бұрын
2:05 - 2:15 As a History nerd who studies all type of Wars and battles from Pre common Era to Modern era I was shocked by this.
@andreapaola2750
@andreapaola2750 Ай бұрын
In twt, whenever I call out mhj their fans start call me "bangpd's wife" as if you can't hate both of them lol, i'm a moa i couldnt hate that pig more than I do now, the problem is that a lot of newjeans fans think that hate on mhj is hating on nwjns tho I have been calling out her since before newjeans debut
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee Ай бұрын
MHJ and bangpd constantly battle it out for who I hate the most in kpop rn but MHJ defenders make MHJ win that battle by the skin of her teeth
@andreapaola2750
@andreapaola2750 29 күн бұрын
​@@Natasha.Louisee fun fact, today the new bighit ceo (she started yesterday) said in a interview "companies arent a place to make dreams come true, it's a place to make money" and i hate her already as I hate all kpop ceos but mhj's defender are using her words to show how mhj is a good ceo because she cares about the artists while at the same time making fun of bts and txt members because they're going to suffer with the new ceo?? They're so weird
@Natasha.Louisee
@Natasha.Louisee 29 күн бұрын
@ as if MHJ didn’t care about money 🥹 honestly people are slow on purpose. Companies invest hundreds of thousands into making these groups of course they want a return on their investments. It’s not a charity. The only thing they want is money!!! How this new ceo saying that makes MHJ look favourable is wild
@StickerSupremecy127
@StickerSupremecy127 28 күн бұрын
Yeah shes the whole reason shinee had that weird boyfriend for noona type of concept i know its bc of her
@r.s.w.k4569
@r.s.w.k4569 26 күн бұрын
I love you for this. She has a crazy weird Lolita fixation. Coupled with her clear narcissistic and sociopathic behavior, and the fact that she was clearly conspiring with 3rd parties to steal NJ away from Hybe...disgusting. She is incredibly manipulative, and we’ve seen how SM/Kakao/YG stans gladly use her to send more hate to Hybe groups. New Jeans was the the top group in all of kpop in 2023 but that wasn’t enough for MHJ. She wanted more credit, more fame, more money. Appalling.
@0928haize
@0928haize 28 күн бұрын
Bringing up sulli's photoshoot when she decided to do it and it had nothing to do with min heejin is definitely a choice LOL??? and theres nothing wrong with how dream dressed in chewing gum either? It was their concept ?? Very obvious that you picked up your information from that one thread on twitter talking about min heejin 💀💀💀💀💀💀
@0928haize
@0928haize 28 күн бұрын
Let the girl rest like
@cherryaenue
@cherryaenue 28 күн бұрын
it's not the clothes nct dream wore it's the concept that's the problem
@0928haize
@0928haize 28 күн бұрын
@@cherryaenue and whats the problem with the concept?? Have u even seen the music video? The concept is supposed to be bubbly and represent youth, it has not once been considered problematic in the 8 years since it was released but its a problem NOW?? 😭 LMAOOO
@MIRAI-dt8rs
@MIRAI-dt8rs 28 күн бұрын
This is selective hearing frfr like. The concept itself ITS NOT WEIRD. But it's weird that a woman who has very weird content in her room and had done very questionable things decide to go for an elementary school outfit choice. Why trying to make them younger?
@0928haize
@0928haize 28 күн бұрын
Its not about making them younger 💀 the concept in chewing gum matches nct dreams early concept of youth, getting stuck on one specific outfit is ridiculous when they were multiple ones in the video, its never been considered an issue until now?? 💀💀 Mind you jisung was 14 when it got released?? 14 year olds now are not comparable to 14 year olds 8 years ago, if you guys see it as weird then u are the weird ones ?? ​@MIRAI-dt8rs
@yuelina.x
@yuelina.x Ай бұрын
10:30 omg this is so disgusting! how are people ok with smth so nasty, wtf. reminds me of pretty little liars and people trying to justify the ship of ezria, yall are nasty
@malloryshrooms7412
@malloryshrooms7412 29 күн бұрын
15:15 Finally someone says it. Look, nwjs has made a lot of mistakes and was hanni’s trial against the new ceo logical? No but I feel like people still need to rmb that they MET mhj when they were young vulnerable teens and yes eventho most of them are considered adults now, we still need to be aware of the fact that they definitely have been groomed and/or manipulated by mhj to a certain extent, and the effects of that is very hard to shake off. (I mean it’s pretty clear that even the members themselves didn’t realize it) I’m not saying that we can’t criticize the actions of nwjs but be mindful of their circumstances. And if you’re interested, I’m not on anyone’s side but i am heavily against mhj in this catastrophe
@dollyvivi_.ৎ
@dollyvivi_.ৎ Ай бұрын
As a bunny both Bang Si Hyuk and MHJ are so weird holy shi. At first I thought it was sweet and cute to see the newjeans girls close to their ceo and even surprise her on her birthday but she lwk is a weirdo same goes for bsh.I hope the newjeans girls are ok
@trys24
@trys24 26 күн бұрын
MHJ knew what she was doing all along. She knew how to make NJ feel worthless without her, and like their success was because she was there, while isolating them from everyone else. It seems to me that NJ was punished for association, which sucks.
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