The Disturbing RuneScape Armed Robbery

[@jazzfestyz9734]

It's hilarious to me that they focused on the digital aspect of this case and not the fact that they forced this kid against his will into a house, with threats of violence and a weapon lmao

[@Im_Leka]

if youre having a case for armed robbery, both parts matter. The armed part was already proven, but the robbery part was still being debated.

[@TPKPatchy]

Well yeah, but you'd at least hope trespassing and assault was a slam dunk there. They were hopefully pushing the armed robbery but failing that would go for the trespass and armed robbery.

[@Im_Leka]

@@TPKPatchy if they are being sentenced for violent actions you can not be sentenced for armed robbery anymore. That would being sentenced for the same thing twice which is illegal. Therefor they wanna slam dunk the worst offensive crime

[@Shortdood]

US law is different to Dutch law@@Im_Leka

[@kusucks991]

Yeah, I just commented this above in the same vein Why does this all center around defining theft? It doesn't matter; if you forget RuneScape entirely, this was still a brutal assault. I'd still think that would be several months in juvi for kids or a felony count of 1-5yrs for an adult. The theft just makes it worse, that's not even the main crime. Community service??? I'm not saying try them as adults but come on, no time served is insane for an adult or child

[@guitarbass22]

I’m still amazed that the assault on the poor kid and the threatening at knifepoint wasn’t the main issue here. Screw the theft…when someone threatens you with a knife, that’s messed up.

[@lemonsuckerYT]

exactly

[@Infinidisc]

and illegal!

[@preid122o]

While I'm not sure how dutch law works, I know that In the us there is a difference between federal and civil cases and how they are tried. I imagine there could possibly be a similar situation here, where the assault and battery was charged in a federal equivalent court whereas the theft was tried at the civil level.

[@dannywol5170]

No it was one of the two issues. The police wanted to prosecute the assailants for hurting someone AND for theft. The hurting part was pretty obvious and was solved really fast, that's why Collonello doesn't talk about that. The 'theft' part was unclear then

[@JohnyPepperoni]

robbed at dds point

[@Corzappy]

I like how stealing the RuneScape items was the biggest part of this case and not the felonious assault and armed robbery.

[@YellowTissueBox]

way more psychologically damaging to lose a halloween mask than a face.

[@hasseo1]

The assault was pretty open and shut. Let's not imply that they cared more about the theft than the assault because we're trying to be clever on the internet.

[@superleipoman]

To clarify: the undecided part of the legal analysis was the theft. That these boys were in a lot of trouble for assaulting someone was clear. The issue is whether or not it was assault to further another crime, namely theft, which leads to an increased penalty as it is what is called a qualified crime. Much like rape has qualifications: rape without violence, with violence, or involving murder. The worse the qualification gets the higher the maximum penalty under the law. When people study high court cases or learn about them, they should realise that the High Courts will only consider the part of the case that is relevant to the appeal. No one was ever for a second under the illussion that assault isn't a serious crime.

[@biggiesmalls7939]

@@hasseo1 Colonello was implying the entire time that the assault charges were dismissed, via not bringing it up at all in the story after it happened. Absolutely bonkers how he didn't clarify at all what was going on with the violent charges.

[@Mikesusendsadasdc]

EU. All that needs to be said.

[@MithDragon]

When none of my true crime youtubers are uploading anything, I can count on Colonello to provide some true crime x RS crossover content. Thank you LOL!

[@levelengineSR]

compared to the cases you see on true crime documentaries two kids beating up another kid and threatening him at knifepoint to give them his runescape items seems pretty tame not gonna lie

[@s_ludge]

Any recommendations? I only know of JCS - Criminal Psychology.

[@Riley_HawkinsOSRS]

Maybe you should Stop exploiting victims of murder for the sake of your entertainment. Just saying.

[@levelengineSR]

@@s_ludge unseen comes to mind

[@hi1yo2bye3]

@@s_ludgedreading, that chapter and coffeehouse crime are my top picks

[@tycodj]

Their parents appealed the verdict even though their kids beat up another kid and stole their digital goods. Clearly shows that the kids beating up others was not something natural but instead something they learned from their parents. No shame.

[@lgbtthefeministgamer4039]

L take, parents are going to love their kids inherently and be more likely to believe x didn't happen or wasn't as bad etc and immediately going to "this proves they're ontologically evil or did something bad" is very cringe. it's not like, IDEAL, i agree that it's not a good thing and shouldn't like, lead to lighter sentencing or them not being punished etc

[@Sasha0317]

Nah like, you could be right for sure, but i reckon it's equally likely that they just wanted to be able to deal with the kids' punishment themselves as opposed to being punished by law and having that on their records etc

[@uitham]

in the netherlands we call those parents "tokkies"

[@Girvo747]

@@lgbtthefeministgamer4039… they got knives mate. That is indefensible, and your take is the L take.

[@135791max]

​@lgbtthefeministgamer4039 Your take is def terrible here. A parent can love their child unconditionally while still understanding they did wrong. Having literally every single party admit to the fact that your child threatened another child with a knife, and instead of trying to make your child take accountability, appealing the case multiple times is shit parenting. Not teaching your child to own up and grow from mistakes is absolutely bad parenting.

[@luukhoogland1431]

I remember this story very well. The guys on the news made an account and tried the game out and were talking about farming and stuff because parents were worried about the game.

[@TheMeatballMan420]

I don't even think the tangiblity of the items matters. Those kids took a kid forcefully to their house, and violently assaulted him. They threatened to end him. That's insane and definitely worth more than community service

[@groundcontrol6876]

9:13 Jagex were the real pioneers of NFTs.

[@Yupperzzzz]

I had like 3 santa hats in 2007 was bragging about the dark bows i was merching and got invited to a friends to play castle wars we played on the two computers in their office. Then we logged off and watched the movie 300. While watching his older brother was in the room stealing all my items

[@Godzeller3143]

Imagine being the parents of a child who beat and threatened another child and then having the gall to appeal the verdict to try and find a loophole to basically say “our kid did nothing wrong”

[@meilinchan7314]

Welcome to China!

[@EnbyOccultist]

@@meilinchan7314 Why China? This crime and trial took place in the Netherlands. Not to mention how often this happens in the US, the crime statistics per capita are insane in the big cities.

[@diredm3889]

Only less then 200 hours of work for beating a child and threating to kill them with a knife? where is justice? that boy should have gone to jail

[@yukimizuno4046]

welcome to netherlands where murdering some one gives less time then robbery wish i was jokin sadly iam not

[@DrCaesarMD]

@@yukimizuno4046 In the Netherlands, the Maximum sentence for murder is a life sentence, which does not have a possibility of parole, which is actually *more* strict than most other countries in Europe. So I am curious where your statement is coming from.

[@yukimizuno4046]

@@DrCaesarMD wel idk were your statement comes from but cleary you have no idea how it works here lol it no were near life sentence lol if you good behavior ur out within 6 years lol and i would know cus a old friend of mine went for murder and came out wihin 6 years so yea not mention the jails here are like a hotel anyways

[@simdal3088]

Our laws are a joke.

[@simdal3088]

@@DrCaesarMD Yeah only life is rarely life, only with forced treatment there is a slim chance. I know a guy who killed someone and was out in 8 years.

[@TheManofthefuture101]

11:23 Personally I think this is a deflection on the part of the lawyer. The case isn't about Intellectual Property, it's about MMO players using violence and intimidation to steal seemingly valuable items from another player.

[@Th3Ungr0undabl3]

"Lucas" grew up to be Woox. Everybody knows this is his origin story.

[@superleipoman]

lol different countries but otherwise believable

[@P1ectrum]

160 hours is nothing to a RuneScape player

[@superleipoman]

lmao imagine if the prosecutor said this

[@trippstudios12]

From what you described, they could have been charged with kidnapping unlawful imprisonment and assault.

[@MrSkme]

I hard disagree that the point about jagex owning the items is good argument. If someone rents a car and i walk up with a gun, beat them up and steal it its equally bad. it doesnt make it okay just because its rented. And the same point you brought up about the library is also applicable here.

[@valenciaa1995]

In the dutch law children under the age of 12 are not able to be punished by law, im guessing thats why the younger boy didn't get punished

[@psycho479]

@NaNoRarhmental institution

[@valenciaa1995]

@NaNoRarh parents mainly are held accountable, also theres a whole system without jail that a kid has to go through incase of serious crime.

[@naebhor6931]

It's similar in other countries but if the crime is severe enough they'll still be tried. In Britain the legal age is 13 but younger children have still been imprisoned due to the nature of their crime.

[@skeezixmccat]

I feel like the fact that they committed physical assault and whatnot as part of the theft is good enough reason to punish them myself 🤷

[@marraine7299]

Dutch player here. I'm not sure if this is relevant, but the text you screenshotted at timestamp 6:48 is basically legal quibbling over whether or not the RuneScape items counted as 'property/items' (goed is hard to translate as a concept) with real world value. It's interesting because the High/Supreme Court decided (according to the text) that the items did qualify as property and therefore it was a case of theft, even though the items themselves were virtual and could be argued to not have any real world value because of it. So it seems that the text is A. basically explaining why the kid got charged with theft, and B. could have been groundbreaking by classifying the stealing of virtual items as theft. (I'm not a lawyer so I can only go based off of what that text says). Edit: I saw in the later portion of the video that you already knew all of that. My bad. I'm too much of a nerd haha so I got excited when I saw the screenshotted text and paused there.

[@Speeskees]

As a dutchie, I remember this story and was the reason I wasnt allowed to play for a couple of months

[@s0ulshot]

YOU ARE NOT JOINING THAT RUNESCAPE GANG!!!11

[@OkonusArt]

If i buy bonds with real money and someone robs me 2 things are gonna happen im gonna be pissed and someone may die

[@mikec5400]

man i remember the golden days youd constantly find players that were clearly about to die at barrows and people would just be sitting there waiting and watching then spam click the tile they died on

[@ozzy.8413]

Okay the theft aspect is cool and all but what did the court say about the blatant assault done on "Lucas"? That alone warrants criminal charges.

[@BELLEVERIC]

Actually almost been in a situation like that when I was a kid. I managed to get away from the situation and never encountered the other guy again.

[@l0lan00b3]

Oh do tell the story brother

[@youknowthe444]

Lmao runescape related?

[@erickchristensen746]

@@youknowthe444 It doesn't need to be runescape related to still relate tot he story.

[@youknowthe444]

@erickchristensen746 right I was just curiois. These crime stories are always interesting no matter what. I'm tempted to listen to crime documentaries throughout my shift now.

[@l0lan00b3]

@@youknowthe444 I'm on a vampire creepypasta kick ATM. Was skin walker and werewolf stories for the last month though. Some of these short story writers are awesome.

[@Tyler_Gill_Music]

Lucas shoulda just trained defense irl smh

[@noThankyou-g5c]

if this happened to you in the US you’re fucked. Imagine being like 13 and telling the police somebody robbed you for runescape items. They would laugh in your face. At best they’d pretend to write things down. But no way would they ever question the other two kids or more importantly force them to log onto runescape to give the items back

[@ProbWontMaxUFC]

very intriguing video as always. Im surpised the court was more conerned about theft than say assault. I would think the theft part would be an afterthought.

[@ColonelloRS]

Thank you! I wondered the same thing. I can't confirm if its true, but I came across a comment that explained why while I was researching: "“Because the charge was theft accompanied by assault and threats. If you can't prove the theft you can't prove the charge, since plain assault or plain threatening weren't charged separately. Meaning no conviction. You can't (easily) change a charge during the trial. Also, the original charge would have netted a higher punishment.”"

[@danedi2951]

Beyond Colonello’s point, assault/battery are established crimes. To me it seems the theft was given so much additional attention because it was the first case of it’s kind

[@Wessel1271]

I asked my girlfriend (who has a masters degree in law); she said the assualt part was probably handled by the lower court, and that the digital robbery part (since it involves a "new" situation not yet contained within Dutch law) is handled by the supreme court

[@nomekop333]

This was very fun to learn about during my law studies in the Netherlands. In addition to this case, there's just been a new ruling regarding a gold seller that now has to pay taxes over their money gained with the gold-selling; further cementing the viewpoint that Runescape gold represents real world value after all.

[@Vincenttst]

0:34 our houses don't look like that! 😂

[@noThankyou-g5c]

9:50 “Going to the library to PK. Hoping for some good drops 🤩”

[@walter_rl]

This is the best video you've ever made (in my opinion). The storytelling is phenomenal, the background/B-roll footage is perfect, and it's clear you did your research. Shame the views don't reflect that. Great stuff either way.

[@Diegobrinter]

In the lawyers defense, he took on a lost cause... both the younger and older boys had already confessed in their statements to the police

[@superleipoman]

His legal arguments aren't that bad honestly.

[@im4everskilled]

We had kids threatening each other for rs stuff back in 2005 at my school. But the worst thing that happened to me was when I went to my friends house to help me with dragon slayer. He had played the game much longer than I had at that point and I wasn’t too good at English, so he helped me with the quest. He told me to bring my best gear and as the fight with Elvarg started he just closed the browser. He didn’t even steal my stuff, he just wanted me to lose it. I lost a rune legs, adamant plate, rune full helm, which isn’t much, but imagine that back in those days, how much time I spent, what little information and especially what little information I was able to actually take part of. It took me a lot of time to even get to this point

[@sid4759]

God forbid their murderous child have to do 168h of community service as punishment for assaulting someone with a knife. The fact that they were going through such lengths to prevent a very light punishment is sickening.

[@razorsharp5643]

Very bizarre that the case was about theft. The thing in the center should be the assault, threats on Lucas's life, and what is essentially robbery. Feels like the legal system failed big time.

[@FlyinRaptorJesus]

I'm much more concerned about them holding knifes on the kid than stealing the pixels..

[@celtia6131]

fucking this

[@Pimp_Shrimp]

The knives are certainly why the case went as far as it did. If it was a simple act of bullying the kid into trading his stuff over then it definitely wouldn't have even went past the initial police stage. Seems their defence was just trying to cling onto the technicality that it may not actually be theft to try to get the entire charge dropped (hence the focus on the stealing of pixels).

[@DingoDman]

older boys lawyer was high “he done nothing wrong” 🤦🏻 he literally beat a young boy and threatened him with a knife 🤣🤦🏻

[@lgbtthefeministgamer4039]

it's the lawyer's job to defend their client, friend

[@erickchristensen746]

@@lgbtthefeministgamer4039 That doesn't make the Lawyer any less stupid.

[@styxzero1675]

@@lgbtthefeministgamer4039 Lawyers are criminals in a suit, always have been.

[@superleipoman]

@@styxzero1675 Actually they make us wear robes.

[@1BadGamer]

The fact is that because of this incident, we couldn’t play Runescape anymore in school time. If you got caught you would be expelled because they would immediately think that you are part of it.

[@steelwitness]

i feel like monetary and sentimental value should matter in a theft. like i have a small stuffed bear my grandfather gave me before he passed. the item isnt worth much money but for me its priceless and getting it back requires that specific one

[@sharcblazer99]

I'm hearing... assault, attempted murder, assault with the intent to murder, premeditated assault with the intent to commit murder and identity theft. (1. Discussed 'taking' the 'items' in question, and following through with it. 2. Kicking the boy, punching him. 3. Pulling the chair he was using to play on his password locked account out from under him and using his private account, linked with his private EMail, which most likely had his private information on it (Ie. Passwords, recovery information, payment information, address, shipping information etc.) without his written, and or verbal consent. Its the slammer for the kids, and a thorough investigation into the parent's conduct which led to this point, with potential CPS involvement.

[@bingomanbarry7060]

Does anyone know the song at the end that starts at 13:03? It sounds so familiar to me, I just can't quite place where it was from.

[@opheliayoung1122]

As a dutch, i can give some insight why there is little info on the younger boy. Under a certain age we try to keep information to minimum, when he turns 18 he shouldn't have a criminal record.

[@ColonelloRS]

Interesting, thank you!

[@jonathancamargo3455]

One of the highest quality videos I've seen in the RS sphere in a good minute. Cheers!

[@ColonelloRS]

That means a lot, thank you so much!

[@Pigsrcool9099]

Grabbing knives and threatening a life, and they only got community service? That’s bs.

[@marokko888]

Welcome to the Netherlands mate where you can kill somebody and get 2-5 years and the prisons are like a hotel with bars lmfao

[@chumshot1368]

Back in like 2003 I had a kid show up at my house, I didnt know him but I knew he was a friend of a friend. When I opened the door he asked me for his P hat back. After some confusion I finally understood what he was talking about. That mutual friend stole his party hat and told him it was me. pretty sure the kid whos party hat was stolen is in jail for violent crimes.

[@jordangrenier1538]

The real question is, who’s funding these appeals?? To take a case to a Supreme Court takes a lot of time, money, and effort. Why is it being appealed to the highest court over 160 hours of community service?

[@hoelbraknofear4671]

this case is used a lot in law schools in the Netherlands. Mostly because this type of crime was something new and huge for modern law. tl;dr, if you put in real time/money to obtain an item, it has real-world value. Thus, stealing online is no different from stealing IRL. So... you explained the Dutch law perfectly (I JUST finished an IT-Law module which used this case)

[@MrVuul]

This literally happened to me for my santa hat and whip in Belgium in 2008. I wish I had gone to the cops. friend of mine invited me over after school and we played runescape, when I logged in, his older cousin yanked me away from the computer and dropped my valuables, he had someone else waiting to pick them up, it was all premeditated. I started crying and yelling, my friends mother threw me out of the house, I waited for the older cousin to leave the house, to ask for my items back, he came outside with a tree branch from the garden and beat me with it until I ran. My "friend" in the back just watching. Next day at school he turned my only other friend against me somehow, without friends and due to bullying, I changed schools a few months later. Junior and Dante, if you ever happen to read this, I hope the Santa hat brought you two lots of joy, I still have problems trusting people.

[@Cloakedschemer]

Should look into the other case where guys were robbed at gunpoint for gold in an IRL exchange

[@Kb-dh8rq]

This is the first time stealing of digital goods is classified as value and is now punishable. We call it the Runescape Arrest in the Netherlands.

[@chonchjohnch]

I wasn’t aware that assault with a deadly weapon isn’t criminal in the Netherlands

[@jeffsington3550]

I've actually had this case in a law course at Dutch university indeed!

[@krisappelman6238]

Yeah i’ve had this case in my introduction to law in college. Interesting video. Thanks!

[@ColonelloRS]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Foxxless_rs]

How can I get those screensavers on your computer??

[@edwardjoseph8007]

it was definitely a halloween mask, when you died, rare items almost always were lost because the alch value was so much lower than other gear

[@PureNationalism13]

Can you explain what you mean

[@edwardjoseph8007]

@@PureNationalism13 items kept on death used to be based on alch value, and when rares were released they had alch values of 1gp meaning you would keep your other gear instead of your rares when you died

[@SeaShantyTwo]

I love that Colonello has “that” Garfield plush in the background

[@clockblower6414]

Ah the wrench vulnerability. You keep your digital assets secure as possible until someone keeps hitting you with a wrench

[@rob_the_brobot2630]

Are we forgetting here the theft of RuneScape items is the least of the issue. This kid was beaten and threatened with murder…

[@TheCannibalPizza]

What I'm curious about is why on earth were they pushing theft charges over assault. The kid's life was threatened with a dangerous weapon. Both of the boys confessed they attacked Lucas.

[@SlurmsMc]

Hello Colonello great video. Where could we get your campfire background wallpaper from?

[@styxzero1675]

Even if they dident get charged for theft they would still get charged for abduction, assault and death threats aswell as brandishing a deadly weapon no?

[@GoldenBeans]

isnt the more concerning thing the fact these 2 boys physicaly harmed the kid, ignoring the theft aspect assualting someone regardless of age is still a serious crime

[@yehldyehld]

Under UK law, the perpetrators would have gained unauthorised access to computer material and therefore have broken the law under the computer misuse act.

[@scrung]

I don't think he was trying to brag in the interrogation, I think he was trying to explain how the game works to an adult that, in the mid-2000s, was probably not familiar the concept of an MMO.

[@Discomfort3d]

160 hours of community service for assault, battery and great bodily injury, regardless if it's digital they robbed him of his time so theft, attempt of murder, kidnapping, and criminal threats?... that's a life sentence for both and for being an accessory and being an accomplice. Both need prison.

[@eprimchad2576]

I had something i guess similar to this as a kid, some kid was bragging about his items and gave me the pw to his account, so i logged on and took all of his good stuff. While i was doing it he was msging me on msn and asking me to log out really quick and then log back in, i had already taken his stuff and knew he wanted to change the pw so i just logged out. He was msging me begging for the stuff back and i said no, so his parents showed up at my house yelling at me at the age of 8 to give him his stuff back, i explained it to my parents and they laughed and said no. According to my parents his parents contacted the police and included the part that he gave me his pw and nothing was ever done about it. Found out at school that his parents actually bought him gold for his birthday and thats why they were so upset.

[@erickchristensen746]

Damn, the Dutch law prevaile din such a kickass way. For real though, how can someone threaten your life over ANYTHING, stealing or not, and get away with it? That's such a crazy thing to think of and it happens all the time...

[@superleipoman]

You know what really is scary? That people like you get to vote. Because somehow from this story you concluded the opposite of what happened.

[@PureNationalism13]

Carry a gun.

[@JimMilton-ej6zi]

I feel like the younger boy should be considered the ring leader in all of this, the older boy seems like he was just following along since he never made a choice that wasn't spearheaded by the younger boy

[@lunartree9922]

Did they not get done for y'Know assault and battery (or whatever the dutch equivalent is)

[@HvacOsrs]

It's crazy how much real world influence RuneScape has

[@ForestX77]

Glad to see others pointing out the real obvious crime. Like yeah it can be debated if it really was theft or not but what can not be debated is the older boy and younger boy committed assault and intimidation AT MINIMUM.

[@Joh447]

i'd say it would be fair to argue the "jagex actually owns the items" angle if for example THEY were responsible for the items being 'stolen' through something like a server rollback or similar action.

[@dev639]

I think the kidnapping was still the worst crime commited and I can't understand how this aspect of the facts was overlooked. The boy was kinapped, suffered physical and mental distress and was forced into giving out his belongings. I think loosing his items was the least worse thing he went through, even though acquiring such items is very time consuming. Now if you wanna read about something really disturbing and if you are not underage research: brazilian Tibia crime. Yes, a gruesome crime commited because of Tibia valuables.

[@popajohn24]

How the hell do they act like nothing happened when he was beat and threatened to be killed for items? In the states that would be pretty serious, at least I think.

[@AngryPeopleReplyToMe]

Can I ask where you got the Runescape campfire wallpaper for your desktop background? Great vids btw, I just subbed.

[@GarethJason]

If i ever found out my kid did some crap like this and it was proven, hell no i wouldnt appeal it. Kid would get no PC for a good long while on top of the community service the court gave.

[@Fireheart1945]

Robbing a kid for his stuff in Runescape, under the threat of knifing him, is disgusting and pathetic.

[@KinggCasp3rrOfficial]

Those kids did borderline kidnapping/assault the focus was the digital goods? What if bro still said no and they stabbed him??? It's crazy they focused on their reason of the kidnapping vs the actual kidnapping

[@FightforDeath34]

I pked the school bully and we had a fight in the schoolyard, the school banned runescape soon after but we all kept playing. This was 2007 or 2008

[@JjayNC8L]

I'm with everyone else. They looked at this case and went "oh that's a theft case" When two boys had threatened, assaulted, by legal accounts KIDNAPPED, and then threatened murder? Like yeah, theft is what matters.

[@I_Crit_My_Pants]

What are you talking about theft for the court case? They assaulted him, threatened him with knives, threatened his life, that's a court case in itself.

[@mannert7644]

6:31 doesn't matter if someone has ever been punished for digital theft, they wanted to kill him man...

[@PS3productionz]

Forget the theft of Runescape items… what about the assault charges? Threatening to kill someone and brandishing knives to intimate a victim is also an indictable offence.

[@JoshDoubleU]

'nobody has ever been prosicuted for theft of a digital item before' like they didnt force him into a house, beat him up and threaten him with a knife? i think thats what the court was more interested in.

[@superleipoman]

To clarify: the undecided part of the legal analysis was the theft. That these boys were in a lot of trouble for assaulting someone was clear. The issue is whether or not it was assault to further another crime, namely theft, which leads to an increased penalty as it is what is called a qualified crime. Much like rape has qualifications: rape without violence, with violence, or involving murder. The worse the qualification gets the higher the maximum penalty under the law. When people study high court cases or learn about them, they should realise that the High Courts will only consider the part of the case that is relevant to the appeal. No one was ever for a second under the illussion that assault isn't a serious crime.

[@andrejtoplak4646]

The thing i dont understand is why is theft the focus of the trial over beating him and threathening him with a knife??

[@avitticus]

is there a way I can find that wallpaper? :o

[@francisbalfour1243]

Threat to harm, agrevated assault, battery occuring actual (minor) bolily harm, occuring severe distress & threat to kill. They should be in prison.

[@justineb]

I am a law school grad and an OSRS player and this was the most interesting vid I’ve seen in a while!

[@Phantasmerade]

This kid gets three (3) knives pulled on him and the defense lawyer's argument is that technically stealing items is a part of Runescape. Did he call his cousin Vinny or something?

[@kaozbender]

I thought the knife segment was about to turn into a Hello Fresh ad lol

[@Colors492CoLoRs492]

bro saying that what they did was theft or not is not the point.... they took someone against there will to there house and held them at gunpoint...

[@superleipoman]

The only gun involved is your attention to detail.

[@theuglykwan]

Why go the property route and not the battery, abduction and threatening route?

[@whiteandnerdytuba]

Funny how the whole assault, kidnapping, and threatening to kill was all swept under the rug

[@xubious]

lol him finding items reminds me of being 9, playing on a Saturday morning in my whitey tighties and a blanket, and having the evil chicken event attack me. I didn’t know you could run away from it, so I died and lost g maul and some other stuff. My 9 year old self freaked out and ran to my bed crying 😂. The worst part was it happened at duel arena, so literally hundreds witnessed it happen

[@7StarKarma]

The parents spent years to get their kid out of a few weeks of community service after he beat the crap out of a young child… I hate parents that let their kids get away with being scumbags, to grow up to be even bigger scumbags. It’s why we have so much crime.

[@JohhnyJohnny-i4k]

Lawyer must have been called Gaul Soodman

[@superleipoman]

Honestly his arguments are solid. The point isn't to agree with yourself or condone your client's actions. An extremely basic principle of law that apparently no one in the mob understands.

[@muskoxthe]

Im surprised that the kidnapping and assault was not argued as they are 100% much more serious crimes. However, i assume they couldnt prove either of those things happened outside of the original statement.

[@Dadbod2019]

I mean, you now look there is a digital item worth a value now in Bitcoin, so the courts were definitely on to something

[@Semirotta]

Funny, old neighbor of mine had brothers and their cousin and they played classic runescape because I had told them about it. I had started it like week prior. One day they started saying I had scammed them and that people had said in chat that I had given free items. Then they started to threaten with violence if I didnt give my items to them. Of course out of fear I gave them and stopped playing and haven't touched the game since. P.S Imagine advertising predatorily monetized mobile games ...

[@iGotBadHumor1]

Did Jagex ever ban the old and young kids runescape accounts? Cool video