The Donetsk People's Republic

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As an uneasy ceasefire continues to hold in Eastern Ukraine, VICE News returns to Donetsk with an exclusive film that follows some of the characters involved in setting up the self-proclaimed state of the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR).
In early April 2014, pro-Russia rebels seized the regional administration building and other key institutions in Donetsk, expelling Ukrainian officials and raising their own flag. The rebellion here - and other incidents elsewhere - quickly escalated into a bloody civil war that has left over 2,000 people dead and displaced more than a million.
Filmed over six weeks, this documentary follows the chaotic birth of the DPR as it tries to forge a path to independence and closer ties to Russia.
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[@shaned3362]

you know they are pro Russian when they wear track pants with armor.

[@Kriegter]

Gopnik military

[@malkius656]

lol.

[@Ingen.17]

Stfu

[@roskcity]

@@Ingen.17 Stfu

[@desubokudawanano]

@@Ingen.17 #ихтамнет

[@MCARCstudios]

The events happening now have a much deeper history and tension the more you learn about it. Good documentary here.

[@whydoievenbothertoputthish2199]

Ive been following this series as it came out as no major western media covered it properly my heart breaks seeing it again so many lives wasted for nothing...

[@ner0p]

@@cannedstarfish6194 Exactly. What those western countries are doing, pumping more weapons into Ukraine, is the opposite of what would help bring negotiations back and peace closer. Unless NATO actually gets involved, the Donbass is independent from Ukraine so I don't see why they still do it unless to fuel the war like they did in Syria - almost exact same, but instead of jihads they use they use the armed forces of Ukraine, which for the most part are not Nazi. It is true that Russia is the aggressor, but context always matters, *always* Ukraine is simply a pawn in this chess game of west *vs* east.

[@truelife1060]

It should have gone 8 years ago when this war started but the same main media that manipulates also hides information

[@quantumfairing2216]

@@cannedstarfish6194 The problem with that statement is that Ukraine had a government that didn't care about their people's life or rights, that ended up with the revolution in 2014. Then Russia invaded and stole Ukrainian soil. The land that was promised to them when they gave up all their nuclear weapons in the agreement that Russia would never attack their country. The world should 100% continue to send weapons to Ukraine so they can protect their own sovereignty and fight back the dictatorship of Russia and let the Ukrainians get back their own land.

[@scott4766]

It's ok but it's biased towards Ukraine and not for DPR.

[@italiancat7456]

GIVE ME THE FLAG GIVE ME THE FLAG *throws flag* *flag falls* BLYAT

[@NaughtyBear1337]

@Oliver Ayädiya with an Motorcycle Helmet, that Looks like a stahlhelm... ahja

[@1forest120]

@@NaughtyBear1337 M16 helmet = bad person

[@NaughtyBear1337]

@@1forest120 the helmet looks like an Mixture out of an M35 and M42 Helmet

[@Johntb100]

Donbass is Ukraine.

[@deeremies2266]

@@Johntb100 yes

[@ramirezjuan0715]

The guy who shot this deserves an oscar. I feel like I'm there. Great reporting too.. I'll miss Vice.

[@newlevelgamer5879]

this separatists have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to this people as Ukraine is winning this war and gaining ground everyday, russia just gave Ukraine the power to get rid of Separatism and reclaim the territories that belong to Ukraine, this people were deceived by russia

[@Assfucker0001]

Vice ain't gone tho. They just uploaded yesterday.

[@ramirezjuan0715]

@@Assfucker0001 they announced bankruptcy a few months back but they are still around

[@Assfucker0001]

@@ramirezjuan0715 fr? Damn that's crazy didn't know that

[@2ndcomingofFritz]

@@Assfucker0001their reporting has significantly reduced in quality though

[@VICENews]

Filmed over six weeks, this documentary follows the chaotic birth of the DPR as it tries to forge a path to independence and closer ties to Russia. Check out more coverage of the conflict in Ukraine: news.vice.com/topic/ukraine

[@stu66er]

this was amazing work, well done!

[@cosmokramer833]

One of the best documentaries you guys made! Bravo, 9.5/10.

[@gingerjones43]

DPR and the Russians are NAZI's and mafia thugs. EU and Ukraine should cut them off and any one that supports them.

[@cosmokramer833]

gingerjones43 None of them are Nazis. The Pro-Russia forces are just bullshitting, and the Pro-Ukraine forces are misusing footage of Donetsk rebels mocking Nazis.

[@valerie1]

gingerjones43 Telegraph UK- Ukraine crisis: the neo-nazi brigade fighting pro-Russian separatists -Graphic Warning
www.discussionist.com/101445398

[@thedriftr1990]

19:17 - pulls out gun 19:27 - realises there’s no magazine 19:30 - realises he’s lost the magazine

[@rogermoore27]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rogermoore27]

Worst action hero ever

[@dev-pj9vi]

All of it to settle a fucking road rage dispute

[@emcee1337]

they all seem stupid af

[@crystalamity381]

Obviously a bunch of thugs working for Putin, Referendum was rigged obviously😩 feel sorry for the poor Ukrainians who literally had no voice to stop this, they were attacking them in the street! This was the start of Putins invasion of Ukraine.

[@seany532]

Brilliant you couldnt make this shite up,, the head of security driving around in a stolen car trying to shoot someone for flipping him the bird, quality

[@haemse]

And then taking about how God saved his life because he saw his good doings ... Priceless delusion

[@stonem0013]

​@@haemseclassic russian mindset

[@ngonzales3781]

​@@stonem0013 yea god loves when you make broad negative statements about large groups of other human beings...

[@grzyb11]

there is no way this wasn’t an FSB operation where they just sent the most clinically insane mfs in russia to donbas

[@atanasapostolov2731]

this is the russian world.

[@fackery8438]

"Politics is a prostitute" greatest quote ever

[@reanimationeas342]

In a way, political candidates do whore themselves out for public approval

[@TheDennys21]

My grandfather used to say that too.

[@Gazer873]

It’s weird to watch this in 2024.

[@petersent123]

They remind me of MAGA morons in 2020

[@thembastoep733]

True, but like the will of the people

[@Gazer873]

@@thembastoep733 was it the majority of ALL the people who lived there by 2014/15? And what about now in 2024? Is it the will of the majority now? How did the population change - who stayed, who left, who came new? We just hear rumors. Barely any journalists allowed there. So how can one really know what the will of „the people“ is now? Weird however when a county of your country decides to rather be its own country and your country is supposed to accept this just like that. Which country would? Remember what happened in Spain? Catalania? That was considered high treason.

[@thembastoep733]

@@Gazer873 its likely the majority otherwise there would have been a counter insurgency to the original insurgency, the war will end at some point and the truth will reveal itself slowly, its how these things are

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

Yup.. They got their independence, but became Russia war playground. Poor schmucks

[@DaHuntsman1]

You know, if someone made a movie exactly like this, i would watch it. Its very interesting having a look to the inner situation, the struggle between the different factions, and the aftermath.

[@Brian-Enel]

You should watch Bloody Sunday (2002)

[@hewster9874]

MAD FOXES (1981)

[@pisvis5746]

The aftermatch has began

[@KoleMaravilla]

Donbass (2018)

[@freemindrebel]

@@pisvis5746 More like an unexpected twist

[@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un]

Lenin heard the word "revolution" and woke up from his long nap outside the Kremlin Also they weren't saying Donetsk at 1:32, they're saying DONBAS

[@reenreeniest5263]

Ay it’s supreme leader

[@user-uz2ij7hh6p]

22:57 You bring in a bunch of thieves and thugs into power and act surprised when they act like the wild animals they told you they were.

[@_ian69]

Rip your channel bro 😭

[@eduarddv00]

mistake by vice. vice typed the lyrics of the russian federation anthem, instead of the ussr anthem which was sung

[@kaaosaf]

you're right...you can clearly hear the line, 'along the great path which great Lenin did lead'. This whole report is sketchy as fuck though anyway.

[@asiox8398]

to mount the video is propaganda when you watch the video and remember all the spots where cut these pieces

[@Manowar_]

bruh the people litteraly have the orthodox double headed eagle with a saint in the flag and sing the ussr anthem

[@terriblehumanbeing8117]

@@Manowar_ They're just following Comrade Jesus's teachings

[@Manowar_]

@@terriblehumanbeing8117 based

[@bernz7776]

2022 watching this with the Ukraine - Russia war. My heart is bleeding. May Justice go to the people who really deserve it.

[@Nanosk3]

Same here. Its hard to find the truth with a biased news.

[@dontcomply5008]

@@Nanosk3 what news do you watch?

[@Nanosk3]

@@dontcomply5008 I watch a little bit of everything. You can hear mainstream everywhere but I’ll try to find independent news to hear another side.

[@Nanosk3]

@Nova Burebista if RT and Sputnik was the opposite of CNN or MSNBC than the truth could possibly be somewhere in the middle.

[@dontcomply5008]

@@Nanosk3 same here

[@stefk9883]

This documentary provides such a good context to the current events in Ukraine. Well done Vice

[@SoulBrotherB]

right, this one is different too "8 year before"Donbas documentary, highly recommend

[@reanimationeas342]

It is horrifying that terrorism and war have taken hold of east Ukraine

[@newlevelgamer5879]

You have been betrayed by putin and russia has brought destruction to your people has Ukraine is winning this war

[@sad-asfk]

yeah its really sickening how russia had so many people already in ukraine before to overthrow them.. and brainwash them all

[@0BLACKESTFUN0]

one sided tho .

[@ryangoslingfan22]

This is like a gmod server I swear

[@HeCommittedWarCrimes]

DonbassMod server

[@werwolf_mk9734]

Best comment

[@jojogaming1013]

Yeah, if you like slavjank.

[@mortenfrosthansen84]

"What fools we are to live as if war is a computer game for our children or just an interesting little Channel 4 news item." Tony Benn, 1998

[@PashkenS.]

Whole eastern europe is like a gmod server

[@navaryn2938]

Watched this video more than once and the fellas that can't spell "referendum" nor get the flag right crack me up every time

[@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist]

@@bruno_kunda For such an incompetent group of people, they have been pretty dman successful in overthrowing the Ukrainian government in the region.

[@MrArtaque]

@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist because Ukrainians are no better

[@joedenathan4775]

@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist *Ahem* Russia

[@halcyonXT]

@@SeanQuinn-IrishMarxist its obviously faked wtf. You guys believe this is real?

[@roskcity]

@@halcyonXT How do you know it's fake? Smartass.

[@HappyDaClown187]

If this doesn't open your eyes to how fragile this world really is. At any minute we could be back in world war and for next to nothing.

[@tylerchristensen5067]

comment aged well

[@htatesil4192]

Thanks to Americans

[@kylechetram915]

@@htatesil4192 thanks to russian aggression, always trying to upend the world order.

[@apokkalyps6]

​@@htatesil4192americans dont even know where ukraine is on a map, the terrorist country right next to ukraine and their fascist Z ombies are a disgrace to humanity and the cause of every war and land grab in the 21st century in this region

[@mattbanks3517]

@@htatesil4192 totally bro. Lets all live under a backwards security state instead

[@fakyu9346]

The whole video is Slav meme

[@bogdanafilonich33]

It is the real war, your comment is not relatable.

[@hwoulsetx]

meme supposed to be funny

[@TimberwolfMountaineer]

This comment thread represents humanity and power of disinformation perfectly. 1% thinks ongoing war is a tragedy and should be taken seriously, while the rest is comfortable with dismissing it just like yet another meme.

[@Biełaruski_nacyst]

Whole those LPR'a and DPR's adventures are funny jokes.

[@marjankalsek7579]

​@@Biełaruski_nacystand you're joke..idiot

[@DirtyBird28]

2023 here. I can't help but wonder how many featured in this documentary are still alive.

[@DirtyBird28]

@@vene4ka It's virtually impossible it's zero....The Donboss "volunteer" battalions were shredded pretty early in the war. Russians used them for mine clearance/machine gun finders before Wagoner brought in the penal battalions. Every fighting age male in this video is most certainly dead/wounded by now.

[@WhoIamHeinsberg]

​@@DirtyBird28 As a resident of the republic, I am I want to say that you are half right. Many people died, but some survived. Also, Russia almost did not participate in 2014, only arms supplies Благодарю за внимание, если прочитали

[@user-mv4kz6lw8u]

​@@vene4ka by that you also mean people who were held by this terrorists and were shown in the video, so pick your words

[@tovarish_serjant]

Quite a lot. Andrei Ryabinin, nicknamed "Lenin", went through the whole war and remained alive, recently I would like to ask him some personal questions. Roma from the anti-corruption department went to Crimea, Maxim did not join the militia, many protesters stayed at home with their families.

[@tovarish_serjant]

@@vene4ka he losses of the L/DPR servicemen were, but were significantly exceeded by the Ukrainian side, the losses of the AFU and the losses of the L/DPR amounted to ~ 1.5/1 due to the offensive of Ukraine and the protection of the L/DPR. Ukraine greatly underestimated its losses, and, according to the General Staff, about 3,000 Ukrainian servicemen and 20,000 L/DPR soldiers were killed, and according to the UN - from 4,500 to 5,500 people. I also personally know many people who have been at the front for 10 years.

[@brainbytes3484]

So it's ethno-nationalism vs ethno-nationalism? Wonderful.

[@jcarter3238]

BrainBytes It's a reaction people have when being violently targeted for being loyal to their previous government that was also violently ousted by thugs. And technically, the land was Russian but was given in exchange for several things. But the Ukraine has squelched on their deal so I'd say they're taking it easy on the Ukraine when contractually the land should go back to Russia since the contract is no longer being honored or recognized. Don't you think? Either way, it's between them and no other country should get involved financially or militarily.

[@brainbytes3484]

I express solidarity to the the DPR, but in the end, they are being used by Putin right now. The communists that made up the republic are losing power in the face of Russia's neoliberalism. The days of the USSR are (sadly) gone. That said, I recognize Crimea as free from Ukraine, and if the the rest of eastern ukraine wishes, they should be allowed as well. I'm only concerned this is going to devolve into what my post said: two ethno nationalist sides foghting it out, one side supported by western powers, and the other by Putin.

[@jcarter3238]

BrainBytes Hmmm. Well I'm not sad the USSR is not in existence, nor are any of my in-laws currently living in Kiev and Russia. And I'm not sure what you mean by being used by Putin. Would it be bad geopolitically for Putin if the EU grabbed Ukraine? Of course. But it would be equally bad for the people in Ukraine. And culturally speaking it would be the death of any nuclear family values. I guess I'm not seeing how they're being used or exploited when it's mutually beneficial.

[@brainbytes3484]

But did you not just say that other countries should stay out of this both militarily and financially? Regarding the USSR, it was the other superpower preventing the US from becoming the sole superpower. It prevented what the US wants right now, military and financial hegemony of american interests around the world. While the USSR has a terrible past regarding human rights violations, I am in the camp it could have been saved, albeit some restructuring (perhaps more of a confederacy). We're seeing this in NATO's expansion eastward past germany, which Bush H.W and NATO promised Gorbachev wouldn't happen in exchange for a united germany. With the collapse of the USSR, that deal disappeared. The Ukrainian conflict largely stems from NATOs expansion into Georgia and Ukraine, and the pressure it is putting on Russia through this. In regards to the exploitation by Putin? Like I said, I admire the DPR for standing up against Ukraine's semi-fascist government. But, many of these separatists are former soviet citizens or communists who want to return to the system they had before. Now that the DPR is more tied with Russia, that wing of revolutionaries and leftists no longer have influence, and instead are part of Putin's plans of political posturing and economic neoliberalism. That's mainly why I don't see it as mutually beneficial, but instead as a lopsided deal for the DPR.

[@jcarter3238]

BrainBytes Well the end goal IS to become one with Russia. They simply had to break free first from the Ukraine. Regarding America, it's the NWO (and yes NATO is a big part of that) that Bush was so fond of, rearing its ugly head only now the status quo calls it globalism. The EU was the giant first leap for globalism. The democrats and a good chunk of republicans are huge supporters of this. There is a lot of money to be made in globalism for a circle at the top, the next tier does it in the name of utopia, perfect world, no boundaries, no race, no gender, no class etc. So they work the propaganda and push it through the system in the name of equality and love. Keep both parents working and children raised by the system because it's about 'gender equality'. The rest at the bottom suffer greatly with no voice. This is what ruffles Putin's feathers. Putin is doing his best to model his country, as is China, after the Nationalist and sovereign America circa 1940. But globalism is a poison that seeps into the youth and this strikes fear in nationalist sovereign nations. They see the coming threat. This is why the recent reactions to and policies on homosexuality and pornography have come up in Russia. Russia and China have both stated recently that the US was great once but has completely fallen. There is very little respect left. It's really funny when you think about it. Trade the word communism for globalism and it's like the US is becoming what Russia was depicted as, and Russia is in the shoes the US was wearing long ago. We now hold the poison dismantling values and governments with corruption. I did mean what I said about staying out of it. But this does involve Russia at its core. I'm just an average Joe talking, I'm not Secretary of State. America should stay out of this. But our opinions don't even matter so who the fuck are we anyway.

[@nathanstein8572]

18:02-18:40 is my favorite part. It's even funnier if you know Russian.

[@MrPeterPan]

Hahahah ikr😂

[@grzyb11]

like fucking tarkov scavs, or any video game bandits

[@download333]

"Are you afraid of something?" How about the masked guards and the government employee who just threatened bodily injury over stickers? Is that the sort of thing someone should be worried about?

[@hamsterman32]

Maybe if the punk didn't belong to USA funded right sector then he would've been treated like your average misdemeanor case.

[@download333]

***** I don't care what someone is suspected of doing. If you want to pretend you live in a free society, they are innocent until proven guilty. Also, in most free societies, having and promoting a political view that is opposed by the current government is not considered a crime. Don't get me wrong, the US (where I live) fails at this in a lot of ways, but that video was the sort of thing that cops here would at least try to hide, not use it as an example of properly conducted law-enforcement. Actually, that's not entirely true. You should see some of the insane SWAT videos that are used as examples of well-executed raids. And yes, the US meddles in the affairs of other countries way too much, but that doesn't justify treating some kid like a violent criminal because he happens to agree with a group you don't like.

[@HTFDUDEHTF]

***** They didn't get beaten up because they were filming you idiot, how dense are you even? Holy shit.

[@vladimirzlatanovic1947]

@@download333 Since you are American, btw I am not Ukrainian nor Russian and I am not affected by this, do you think there is any difference between Russian and American interference, be it by army deployment, overthrowing governments, funding some political parties, etc. I mean, Russian influence is presented as bad, and American and EU as good, but for me ruling a country from the outside is bad no matter who is pulling the strings, so i would like to hear what an American thinks.

[@FATHOLLYWOODB123]

@@hamsterman32 Ukraine wants NATO and the EU, funny how they wanted Russia until Russia invaded Crimea

[@baldwintheanchorite]

Historically important piece of work. Thank you to the reporter.

[@randomusernamemygod]

33:48 Probably the best quote of the entire conflict. Now a legacy of hatred, anger and violence will be left behind and inherited for the little kids of Ukraine, Russia, EU and Malaysia.

[@bengchiatseah3908]

@Gabe Itch was wondering about that too... wonder if it has anything to do with the downing of their commercial jet?

[@HelluvaShotoTodoroki]

@@bengchiatseah3908 Because Our Citizens Are Killed In The Conflict Bruh

[@user-lz5wf]

@Eminem MH17 plane, a Malaysian civilian aircraft was downed by the DPR

[@revolter7094]

He was talking about the USSR not the joke of a "country" Ukraine is.

[@sillytu6639]

@@HelluvaShotoTodoroki Your fault

[@sandwitchi7]

29:14 It's just like something straight out of The Office.

[@destubae3271]

I'm thinking we need a Donetsk People's Republic sitcom

[@uros4925]

LMAO

[@ungbonhbot3662]

Imagine if they have talking heads like the office

[@ribeiroz78]

29:37 "politics is a prostitute. It goes with whoever pays more" I think we've found the main motivation of the Donetsk separatists...

[@spacecommie7447]

Russia has therefore successfully bribed 4 million people in the Donbass? Props to them

[@CoreLumpenous]

Jesus... 2014, the year terror begun for the Donetsk and Luhansk. The amount of men and women, elderly and young, rich and poor, pro-ukrainian and pro-russian that was tortured and/or killed by the so-called 'separatists' is enormous. Marodeurs, robberies, kidnappings were on the rise ever since Ukraine lost control over the cities. Did you see those girls on the 6:40? It`s really rare to meet a pro-ukrainian person over there who is willing to disclose her real opinion. Many people are afraid of speaking out against the russian-controlled terrorist groups, thinking they`d lose their lives and of their relatives (and they wouldn`t be wrong for assuming this). Look up Volodymyr Rybak from Horlivka and his death. Even Strelkov-Girkin confessed: "Naturally, Rybak, as a person who actively opposed the "militias", was an enemy in my eyes... his death is to some extent also under my responsibility". He was abducted, tortured to death and his body thrown away into Torets river. For what? For attempt of raising Ukrainian flag. Not the crime one should be put to such gruesome death for. Or Stepan Chubenko - a 16-y.o. football player, kidnapped from a train to Donetsk from Kyiv by terrorist "DPR" militias and executed after torture. His crime? Blue-and-yellow ribbon on the backpack. His killers fled to russia back in the 2017 and russia denied extradition requests. Especially now, as we see how treatment of occupied territories by Russian State is the same if not worse than by the separatists on this video. Bucha, Izyum with their mass graves, torturing rooms in Kherson prison, POW`s execution, deserter`s executions in the russian army... Life in the so-called "People`s Republics" is hell on a level of ISIS-controlled regions of Syria in the 2010`s or life under Boko-Haram in Nigeria.

[@_ian69]

I got chills while watching this. I felt so bad for those girls. I wonder how many people in this video are still alive?

[@CoreLumpenous]

@@_ian69 I sincerely hope they evacuated from the area, since they could be recognized by the russians. There were a lot of buses and routs to emigrate to Ukrainian-controlled territory. One of my Ukrainian friends is from Horlivka, and he managed to flee in 2023 from the occupied territory. Hope they`ve done the same and are in safety

[@jimmycricket7385]

Almost comedic but with an underlying charge of hysteria that could turn murderous at any time.

[@longLivejay1]

Aged well

[@mayor3367]

Ah, what an accurate prediction.

[@MrPeterPan]

Lmao

[@permadoc]

Great work! Very informative as well as entertaining - I couldn't stop laughing at 8:20 where they started painting their own flag the wrong way and couldn't spell "referendum". And, the episode where Roma tries to shoot out of his car window and finds out that he has forgotten his ammo - priceless!

[@ВладиславВладислав-и4ю]

I hope everyone who created this abscess on the body of my country is now in hell, which is quite likely with the Russian policy of destroying those involved.

[@DialecticalMaterialismRocks]

Long live the DPR

[@orcastudio4765]

Donetsk:"Donetsk People's Republic" Ukrainian Hyrvnia -50000

[@Eikenhorst]

That was just hilarious! True nationalist willing to die for a flag they don't know how it looks like even. Weird, to say the least

[@ssach7]

@@DialecticalMaterialismRocks DPR is Putin's invention

[@DeaXi69]

If i've learned anything as a latvian then it's that arguing with old russian females is as useful as watching the paint dry. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience especially if they outnumber you. There's no reasoning with them.

[@mrditkovich5817]

How is it going in Latvia now ? Your government must be really repressing Russians

[@RK-cj4oc]

​@@mrditkovich5817Colonial russians should not be in Latvia to begin with.

[@C-Farsene_5]

@@mrditkovich5817 considering how the Latvian identity survived centuries of Russian repression I'd say that their own repression is very tame

[@mrditkovich5817]

@@C-Farsene_5If they lived centuries of repression they wouldn't be here to begin with. And even if Latvia got repressed, then it's not acceptable to begin with, and we cannot accept that a bullied person becomes the bully.

[@C-Farsene_5]

@@mrditkovich5817 yeah..Latvia and the baltic states were held by Tsarist Russia and later the Soviet Union for a couple hundred years in total, some ethnic groups just hold out longer than others for example the Tatars which have been held by Russians since Ivan the Terrible's Kazan Wars. I get that Latvia shouldn't be so racist to a group who won't always be supportive of Putin's actions, it is a sad situation and hopefully (once Russia stops eyeing the baltics so hungrily) Latvia too would stop being so repressive of the Russians

[@Oddball_E8]

"Russia gives us the chance for a bright future, the EU doesn't, that's for sure. We don't want war, or young guys dying for nothing". Well, that aged like milk...

[@supermanhun]

I wouldn't say the die for nothing seeing as Ukraine is currently getting steamrolled. Freedom isn't free

[@venkats0iitk]

It did? Are you sure, or... is you comment aging like milk?

[@imnotryuu6391]

was looking for a comment like this

[@alexpieters2345]

These youngsters cheering for Russia, are now meat sacks thrown against their own country on the frontline. Lots of young Donetsk pro Russian Ukrainians are used as front line fodder.

[@margaretcaine4219]

Only about 8 months ago were Ukrainian forces pushed far enough away from Donetsk city that they could no longer shell it. They have at last a brighter future.

[@AIRFORCEFREAK1]

If these people truly believed what they were doing was the best for their people and country they wouldn't wear masks and ask cameras to go away.

[@haemse]

And do referendums without external supervision ...

[@abdelhakwinston6200]

lmao

[@abdelhakwinston6200]

u dont hide ur face from ur ppl u hide it from ur enemy

[@saccorhytus]

@@abdelhakwinston6200 Yeah exactly

[@sir7819]

Советую посмотреть на основных участников майдана. Спасибо

[@Muggawumps]

Is the DPR just a country-wide reality-show?

[@lihwak9181]

Muggawumps Im from LPR and yes, kind of

[@defossus173]

​@@lihwak9181 Are you alive?

[@lam0bot]

Best part is 'security officer/offical' or whoever that thug is flailing his gun out of the window of his car, threatening some random dude on the road. Best way to explain what this DNR is in just 30 seconds. "Look, it is their head of security, do you have any more questions?"

Yep. I feel sad for those people.

[@letsimage]

I think he described all ideology of putin: "rules exist for breaking them".

[@DMlTREl]

​@@letsimage Sounds more like NATO

[@letsimage]

do your own research about concrete cases @@DMlTREl

[@miguelmatos9508]

Seems like Budanov

[@thekiltedkamper2855]

Notice those who support Ukraine are all young and the ones who don't are older.... Who has seen more since the fall of the USSR.

[@kriptoinvestorreal]

USSR - famine

[@ttemmowwkk]

notice that there were a lot af protests for ukraine in donetsk and luhansk in 2014, but russia did their best to stop those protests

[@reedschrichte800]

Seen what?

[@nemetskiylager]

​@@ttemmowwkk You are absolutely not competent. There was no Russian regular army in Donbass back in 2014.

[@НикитаПетров-б1р4н]

@@nemetskiylager well, now we know, that it isn't true. Russian goverment plan the whole coup and sucseeded.

[@tarasyanish7854]

29:26 Screw you guys, I'm going home!

[@ribeiroz78]

24:29 "there was no independent verification off the polls and no independent monitors" Russia, what a beautiful democracy

[@saccorhytus]

@@Hugh-Glass fucking Nazi

[@I_dont_read_responses]

​@@Hugh-Glass There's that nazi talk again that led to this conflict....

[@vanceofthetube]

Yes. Atleast they didn't try to assassinate anyone while giving a speech after they failed to jail him like in the USA.😂

[@pilky_boooi]

​@@vanceofthetube Navalny would like to have a word with you

[@ryack6355]

​@@vanceofthetubeIn Russia they simply killed Navalny

[@АлексейДонской-п6ц]

I'm native russian speaker. The translation is sometimes inaccurate. For example when Roma is talking to one of his men at 4:38 the translation is as if Roma is informed that they captured an enemy fighter and got a ransom for him, being unclear what is left to be settled here and why he's asking his dude to show him some gun. They use slang so even I didn't get what he's saying at first. In reality the dude is telling Roma they somehow wrongly acquired a free gun but now are asked to pay for it yet the finance people are saying this can be only settled through Roma, with the gun being later shown.

[@ast.george3565]

Of course vice couldn't help themselves but to spread some Ukrainian propaganda! may they go to hell

[@onezerotwo]

I wonder if even 50% of the people in this video are still alive.

[@Jana_Slavova]

How are they talking now?What has Russia brought for these idiots?Poverty,unemployment, mobilisation, crime,wars.They got what they deserved.

[@melhiorlector2680]

А почему они должны быть мертвы?

[@MORE_BEANS_PLZ]

​@@melhiorlector2680 they're terrorists so it's better dead

[@luckysnuf7509]

@@melhiorlector2680Ukie artillery

[@akallstar5]

@@melhiorlector2680Because they’re cannon fodder paid by the Russia government as mine-sweepers for their eventual invasion. Pathetic

[@vavan100]

"Your body is your collection, want to keep your collection"

[@whatsgood8426]

Gouky Best quote from the video, apart from all the cuss words used by men lol

[@wmr0225]

What's Good Personally, I liked "wheres my beating stick?" and "fuck his mouth"

[@whatsgood8426]

wmr0225 those are quite good too

[@dopeloverdamily]

then proceeds to say that all people have its opinions

[@SirSpiderPig]

“They are less than human.” “ They must die” who are they starting to sound like?

[@stvk99]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iWq2gImXp7R5gM0

[@waffenanime]

like ukrains

[@mazamatov]

need not worry anymore, the West has abandoned Ukraine.

[@robbienl8176]

Like zelensky 😅

[@IndieGinge]

Like people in any conflict where their opponents commit atrocities? Americans after 9/11 or all the time, Yemeni's after the forced famine, Russians after Nazi aggression, Nazi's after the Soviet counterattack? It's actually a very normal emotional response to seeing evidence that people you love or identify with are killed, especially if it's in a horrific way.

[@nick_pappagiorgio]

I like the Soviet-style interrogation by the pro-Russia commissar who takes the kids' stickers, goes through their cell phones and threatens to beat them with batons all while his brave henchmen hide behind masks.

[@malicboba]

Отличие от украинского в том , что украинский не угрожает, а бьёт, а здесь просто серьёзная беседа. Знаете, а это очень не маленькая разница.

[@pykakpa6a84]

​@@malicbobaгарне порівняння, але воно тільки на словах. А докази, або відео є тільки про допити сепарів. Так само як зараз, російські війська ріжуть та гвалтуют і навіть не соромляться це знімати та оприлюднювати.

[@rmdomainer9042]

@@malicboba Shush vatnik. We have seen what you people do to others.

[@I_dont_read_responses]

​@@pykakpa6a84 and the ukrainians aren't doing the same thing...? Rhetorical question.

[@ГрицькоГудевітер]

@@malicboba ублюдок ты, какими делами завалены Муждународные суды по правам человека???? делами по их нарушению из твоей московии вонючей, из оккупированного Крыма, отовсюду, где присутствует путлер и его убийцы. К тюрьмам Украины имеют доступ все международные организации по правам человека, пленные московии живут как на курорте, а что делают изверги-кацапье с украинскими военопленными????? кто тебе в мире верит теперь? никарагуа и сев корея? так ты у этих братьев своих и покупай компьютеры и телефоны. но ты хитрожопый пользуешся благами западной цивилиации, а расейским дерьмом мажешь головы другим.

[@joestephen3756]

Fantastic documentary - summed up by the ten seconds after 4:30 - the head of the anti-corruption department stamping documents then immediately accepting a bribe on camera

[@alexeig127]

You understood it wrong, it wasn't a bribe! They assigned a sum of money to buy a pistolet on black market. After the acception of deal the anti-corruption guy demands to take a look on the purchase. It can be seen at 4:55

[@joefry1947]

so the anti corruption head buying a firearm on the black market is fine then? lmao@@alexeig127

[@foxius5847]

LOL Lenin is like screw you guys i'm going home xD

[@thisisntsergio1352]

29:14

[@adamdrozdowski7786]

is that a swastika

[@MrOlnev]

мда... люди в масках слушают криминальный рэп, кидают камни в стариков и говорят о "независимости". печально все это.

[@Chulavoi]

Буквально усраина

[@Randomguy12990]

It's indeed sad

[@isaacturnercreativeideas]

Last bit was very touching with the dad and his son.

[@triforcelink]

@@bololollek9245 Sad demise of the Ukrainian population

[@333maddoxtj333]

7:26 - are they seriously calling that old couple fascists while an entire mob is harassing them for having different beliefs? Who's the fascist? 10:23 - it's crazy how people can be so hypocrite to accuse Ukraine of being a fascist regime while there's stuff like this where any kind of political opposition, is destroyed and punished with violence. Quite literally like in Nazi germany or Fascist Italy

[@AK-cp6br]

Keep crying, those territories are Russian.

[@333maddoxtj333]

@@AK-cp6br - bruh I'm not crying, to be fair it seems like you're the one crying, I raised two perfectly reasonable points, to wich you can't or don't want to respond. Showing how close minded, biased and brainwashed you are. You can't even think with your own head. Use your eyes, at 7:26 a mob of people is throwing objects to an old couple while someone else shoves them, only because they have a different opinion. This is not a civil society, this is pure fascism, the complete lack of freedom of speech. The oppression through violence. At 10:23 they're straight up threatening him to break his legs. I honestly feel lucky I'm not as dumb as you lol

[@Danielle-gs4uf]

@@AK-cp6brI often wonder if y’all realize how the world views you guys and the many comments similar to yours. You look like a maniac, a homicidal lunatic who, surprisingly, is also retarted. “Those territories are Russias forever”! What? Not one territory is fully occupied by Russia, and soon 2 will be fully occupied by Ukraine. I bet you’ve never even stepped foot on the territory you speak of. Now just imagine that your town was one of these territories and china held referendums with half the town and then declared it Chinese territory forever. Every day I see multiple comments like yours and it’s shocking. I’d really love for this to happen to you, so you can tell your story on KZbin letting everyone know what’s going on, and hundreds of Chinese people in china blowing up your comments, ‘too bad! It’s chinas territory now-CRY MORE!!’

[@tuyanaonnet5251]

Yep

[@breezycheese3677]

@@AK-cp6brNot anymore they’re not. 😂

[@Subscribers-gj6oy]

RIP he lost his favorite beating stick, I feel bad for him.

[@jakespacepiratee3740]

So sad he can’t beat people with it. So sad. :(

[@darayavahush1]

Dzięki Patryk, że pokazujesz prawdę. Piszę po polsku, żeby więcej Polaków dowiedziało się, co naprawdę się wyprawia i jak długo to trwa. Pozdrawiam z Polski.

[@darayavahush1]

To miał być komentarz pod filmem Patricka Lancastera, ale niech już zostanie.

[@carlosarturofloresclaros4392]

I do not speak polish, but you are right, it has been silenced by western media

[@joe18425]

Hi poland, I've always been a fan !!

[@sfalhilsajd]

I wounder how Polish people feel after Ukrainian Anti-Air missile have killed 2 Polish citizens. Or how do you feel about Ukrainian goverment naming one of their streets after Roman Shukhevych one of the perpetrator of Volhynia massacre (rzeź wołyńska). And yes, I'm Russian and I know that this are provocative questions. I hope that they wont be censored by KZbin.

[@DonDon45-i5h]

f@ck your country

[@tphillipoff]

At 2:09 there's a mistake- Donetsk isn't Ukraine's second largest city, it is its fifth largest city

[@tierka221]

Kiev > Kharkiv > Dnipropetrovsk > Odesa > Donetsk

[@yourfavukrainian]

Very late but they said "East Ukraine's Second Largest City"

[@tphillipoff]

@@yourfavukrainian I stand corrected

[@BreezeBoo]

They said EAST UKRAINE second biggest city

[@LekanMakanju]

How does it feel to reply a comment after 7 years?

[@aldozilli1293]

I love all these referendums and elections in Russia and these 'Republics' always so fair, transparent and end in 80-90% in favour of Russia/Putin 😂

[@OXY187]

yeah because the majority of the people are supporting him.

[@russianfury2811]

@@OXY187 noohoo its because Putin bad!

[@BecarefulIliveinyourwalls]

@@OXY187 Yeah, and “100%” its not fabricated and the percents of votes are already decided even before the referendum was even been announced. Remind me, how many presidents did russian federation had and how much Ukraine had? 2 VS 5. And I dont think that its because people of russia support Putin like if he’s their father. It smells really imperialistic.

[@ПавелКольцов-г9с]

When you're brainwashed, reality often seems strange...

[@danieldoneski9666]

"Politics is like a prostitute, it goes with whoever pays more." Only half smart thing ive heard from these separtists.

[@heidyguzman6623]

z

[@danieldoneski9666]

@@heidyguzman6623 z is your swastika

[@reanimationeas342]

That quote is 100% true

[@badtuber1654]

Russian Seperastists or Nazis Ukranian NAtionalists take your pick. End of the day they all have Russian families. they are all RU.

[@Randomguy12990]

They're funny 😂 I love them

[@sgiovanny39j]

Why do the people running the so called "Donetsk People's Republic" remind me of Trailer Park Boys

[@Battlesthegolden]

Well, they got what they wanted. Good luck…..

[@marekdubinak]

This is such a bullsh*t. I live in Slovakia and we have a lot of Hungarian people living on the south of the border. It is like they would decide to separate and claim the historical border ( when Slovakia was occupied by Hungarian Tatars). They would worship Orban, Hungary would provide military support and the civil war would began. Why they just did not move to Hungary (Russia). I understand that the corruption in Ukraine was on high level, and they have families in these places, but in Slovakia it is same. People of Donetsk republic, you are part of Ukraine if you like it or not. But people are fucked up in modern history.

[@babayaga6321]

Tell that to people of Yugoslavia . They were able to split in 5 different countries no problem, so why these people can not. Besides that is historically Russian land and people living on that land made they choice to be one with their motherland.

[@marekdubinak]

@@babayaga6321 yeah I understand the point, but I dont understand these people. In the Stalin ages he killed millions of Ukrainians because of starvation .. really why people there wanted to be Russian. Or they dont know their history?

[@babayaga6321]

@@marekdubinak Those people are ethnic Russians living on their ancestral land . That belong to Russian empire ever since it took that land in battle from asiatic nomads during Catherine the great times. What Ukraine got to do with it?! Stalin did not starve Ukrainians specifically . Famine caused death of people all across USSR. That unfortunately happens during famine through out world history. Everyone else in former Soviet Union understands that, only Ukrainians are making a stink about it.

[@drakker2116]

@@marekdubinakStop with the Holodomor bullshit, there was no intentional starvation of Ukrainians in USSR, there was hunger in many regions at that time due to natural reasons.

[@user-nv5ve9ld7t]

Tell that to Kosovo

[@MrShadyFigure]

That guy at 12:00 is gonna be really disappointed when people get beaten in Russia for expressing their opinions and are guilty until proven more guilty.

[@donizettilorenzo]

They still think Russia is a socialist state.....yes, it's "socialist" in the fascist meaning of the word.

[@Zenovarse]

3:38 Santa claus is coming to town

[@GalacticExplorer_Edits33]

Lmao😂

[@Akella225]

Жаль, что на дамбасе так мало нормальных людей. А Девчёнки молодцы на 6:50 !!!

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

А расскажи что ты думаешь спустя 7 лет?

[@Akella225]

@@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з ничего во мнении не поменялось. Украина - это Европа, россия - фашистский оккупант.

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

@@Akella225 А из какого ты города? Просто я сейчас в Польше, до этого объехала 10 региональных центров на западе и север+центр, юго-восток специально оставила на закуску, у меня есть некоторые мысли по поводу того Европа это или нет

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

@@Akella225 И сколько тебе лет что ты в 10 утра онлайн

[@ПолинаУсольцева-ю5з]

@@Akella225 А почему фашистский? Нет, у меня сегодня правда настроение поговорить, соскучилась по этому трэшу

[@cmconley33]

I watch this and think “Is this what Russia was like after the breakup of the Soviet Union?” If so, no wonder Russians fell for a dictator-the DPR (and maybe Russia?) was complete anarchy. The thing is, the Donetsk Oblast HAD a functioning government-it was a productive region of Ukraine. Then these loonies came along and tossed it out in favor of a government of rival groups that just fought each other all the time.

[@yeungscs]

29:26 Eric Cartman "Screw you guys, I'm going home!"

[@red_anfield]

ahaha! I enjoy your joke )))

[@comradekitty2009]

29:46 they are subtitling the wrong lyrics it is actually the lyrics to the USSR anthem

[@jelly.212]

Vice propaganda

[@CoiboiXD]

​@@jelly.212its easy to mistake the two, the Russian anthem is literally the same as the Soviet one but with different lyrics

[@jacekneumann6491]

USSR also claimed to "just fight with fascism"...

[@Unbrutal_Rawr]

While doing what instead?

[@jacekneumann6491]

Sobakus Well, they of course helped with winning the WW2, but they used anti-fascism card to excuse all their crimes against humanity like sending democratic leaders to prisons or camps. That's the problem of totalitarian systems - it's always someone else to blame for wrongdoings of the government. They always have to have an enemy.

[@silviyatsvetanova4613]

Sobakus Like taking over countries like mine - Bulgaria. Forcing us to pay contributions, and be thankful for putting us on our knees for the last 70+ years. Acting worse than the fascists themselves.

[@Unbrutal_Rawr]

Jacek Neumann Fair point. Silviya Tsvetanova Could you elaborate on the points you've just made? I'm not aware of any forced payments, any knee-putting or, indeed, anything worse than what the fascists did happening in Bulgaria during the Soviet rule.

[@tank_3487]

Those peoples lived much better during USSR. Much more were killed by democracy in Ukraine, than commies.

[@justinemot2282]

When i was working in Kyiv one of my collegues was from Donetsk. He used to work as an important manager in LifeCell, a Ukrainian mobile operator, and was proposed the chair of dpr's ministry of communication there, which he immediately rejected, packed his things into a car, took his wife and daughter and left for good. Bcz ppl with brains like him would never join a gang of bandits. After a couple of years he managed to sell his apartment in Donetsk and managed to convince his in-laws to move to Kyiv as well. The best people of Donetsk left Donetsk and supported Ukraine. The clueless, drunk lohi stayed to play-pretend a republic. Then they were pushed by the armed lohi, which, in their turn, started fighting with each other for the resources, turning a once economically prominent city into a hood with guns and violence and no justice. The true russkiy mir

[@АнатолийШпак-э2н]

Лучше умерять за Россию, чем за фашисткую Окраину

[@realmen199]

Много ты знаешь я смотрю. Много людей с Донбасса приехало в мой город и они говорили что украинская армия приходила в их города и просто мародёрствовала, их обстреливали а вы что делали в это время?

[@mjrooney710]

Right and Ukraine isn't corrupt ??? Ask Joe Biden.

[@weremus8639]

@realmen199 So if Donetsk so good, why they left it for Russia?

[@laser3148]

@@weremus8639 wdym left it for russia? dpr joined russia and who were living there are still there

[@TheHeatExchang3]

Just think about those old fools who beloved in Russia now …. Houses gone probably dead. Nice one

[@derNerdAlert]

10:08 what freedom looks like to the pro-russians here

[@SomethingtoappeaseGoogle-1024]

33:27 Is that supposed to be Stalin?

[@russiaexitcrimea2203]

Luhansk is Ukraine.

[@herushiii]

@@russiaexitcrimea2203 wrong

[@herushiii]

Free Donbass

[@CottageHound]

Donetsk used to be called Stalin

[@herushiii]

@@CottageHound lol

[@marw9541]

6:08 "We don't want war, or young guys dying for nothing." That's extremely tragic seeing now. I hope that young man wasn't drafted, even if I don't necessarily agree with his political goals

[@qw9bp]

He deserves to answer in full for what he supported.

[@dAMMDb]

6:45 Ukraine/EU: Hot girls Novorossiya: Old soviet nostalgic aggressive thugs

[@vanceofthetube]

Hot girls? They are kids. And you notice the old women and if they were so oppressed like western media says, why is it that they want to unite with Russia? Maybe you people know better than the people who lived under Russian rule.

[@norger]

i wouldn't want to live with only fans girls honestly

[@johnnybravo6126]

7:28 why the ***k would you throw stones to old people cuz they are ukraine and laugh there's nothing funny about that heartless ..l..

[@Brokkolesz]

By that logic, why the fuck did protesters throw molotov cocktails on riot police in Euromaidan? Violence is everywhere, man up. Life isn't a fairy tale. People in Syria are hanged, beheaded and shot in the head, some stones are probably the lightest.

[@Eralun]

Malacovics You just tried to compare attacking riot police to attacking old people? That's fucked up.

[@Asianhorrorfreak1]

Eralun sir, I applaud you. :)

[@johnnybravo6126]

Malacovics the old guy did do anything...

[@peterjj1991]

Malacovics Because the police shot them? The first protester was murdered by the police a whole MONTH before the first policeman died, get your facts straight.

[@andrewgreen1940]

No such place, Russian occupied Ukraine.

[@alex-E7WHU]

DPR and LPR are recognised independent places now.👍

[@thermonuclearpotato556]

truly a relic of an era. ive been a kid when crimea has been annexed and I still remember wathcing bout the crimea's annexation on TV, when I've been on 6th grade. so much time has passed..

[@donizettilorenzo]

10 years is nothing :|

[@noahmcdarby5417]

Ironic that they speak of freedom and independence... Look where they are today. its now punishable by 15 years in prison for thinking for yourself? How could anybody back such a pathetic and shameful cause. These monsters will reap what they sow

[@longLivejay1]

Sponsored by the Moscow... No one does propaganda like Russia

[@aftereffects9661]

@@longLivejay1 western journalists make better propaganda. your comments prove it

[@lordlidl6713]

Ah yes, Russia, a place so famous for being tiny and overpopulated, you have to annex new lands to live in it

[@User-dc6sm]

wasn't russias idea though, it was donetsk and luhansk idean the asked every year sice 2014 and 2022 russia finally did it, they wouldn't have gone further if ukraine would have just given up the regions but yk karma strikes ukraine now.

[@lordlidl6713]

@@User-dc6sm yeah right, its just that they've sent a few soldiers and provocateurs over there and the main guy in charge of the DNR separating was a known ГРУ agent, but I'm sure the Russians had nothing to do with it, sure buddy))

[@bjarkiengelsson]

​@@User-dc6smDPR and LPR don't exist. Stop believing lies and realize that the real world is not in your favor.

[@User-dc6sm]

@@clau0072 because that's a weak states move.

[@lordlidl6713]

@@User-dc6sm Yep, pretty pathetic move from Russia

[@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus]

The guy called Lenin says they are not fighting for communism :D

[@MrMountain707]

Back when Vice did journalism.

[@Kodiak.Actual]

I find it really funny that "Lenin" wanted communism until it was communism then he didnt like it and left like a little baby. lmao

[@fahqkitty]

The way homie lost his magazine sums up the entire organization of Donetsk and Luhansk lmao

[@Dakb1000]

I'm here a little late to say the least. Trying to understand what the hell is going on over there and why.

[@freemindrebel]

in Ukraine was conflict between pro-western nationalists and pro-russian separatists, now both factions backed by usa and russia, which fight for influence.

[@godsdj7316]

@@freemindrebel ^ Accurate.

[@thebattleofpelennorfieldsp6081]

I think it was a satire of western news media

[@ArandomIndian30]

The translation of the anthem is wrong. They are playing the anthem of the Soviet Union and the subtitles are of the Russian Federation anthem. The lyrics clearly say И Ленин великий нам путь озарил. This was part of the Soviet anthem.

[@ribeiroz78]

28:00 "they call you guys spiders, because you take everything for yourself" Russia, what a beautiful politicians

[@saucyinnit8799]

Even more coping

[@TimberwolfMountaineer]

Some context for those who don't understand the language or the situation. This ideologist 3:09 and this masked man 1:15 are both native Russians. They have pure Russian accent without any Eastern Ukrainian influence, unlike everyone else in this video. Even if according to published data the majority of people in Donbass in 2014 wrere either eager Russian supporters or just simply sympathetic towards Russia, this video still doesn't represent the real ratio between regular Ukrainians and separatists, because most of Ukrainians were scared of this 7:25 or 10:24 or 13:49 or worse if they made their stance publicly. The reason why pro-russian population was more active and better organized is because the operation was planned by FSB way ahead of these events. Posters, speakers, slogans, money and weapons were availbale to separatists immediately, while Donbass Ukrainians just weren't ready and didn't have someone who'd organize them in support of United Ukraine. Whatever your political views and ethnic sympaties are remember: a minority of people desiring to live as a part of another country is not a reason to infringe sovereignity. Otherwise 99% of the world's borders would have to be rewritten and hundreds of millions would perish. Many Tatars, Kalmyks, Chechens, Dagestanis, Ingush, Karelians, Kuril Islanders, Buryats and Yakuts in Russia also want independence or reunification with historical motherlands, is it a valid reason to secede?

[@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR]

Why would Donetsk have any Ukrainian influence if Donetsk never spoken Ukrainian? Donetsk was part of Don Army region in Tsarist Russia.

[@CarterMc3]

Why would Donetsk have Ukrainian influence? Because it's literally in Ukraine ​@@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR

[@OCTAVIANVS_AVGVSTVS_CAESAR]

@@CarterMc3 Donetsk has never been Ukraine it belonged historically do oblast voiska Donskogo during prerevolution Russia. Donetsk was part of Russia loner than is Kiev part of Ukraine.

[@torlekjpec5708]

It took a minority fighting to make USA a sovereign country from UK. By your logic that and probably most revolutions are in thr wrong. Which is a consistent standard you have if the case.

[@TimberwolfMountaineer]

@@torlekjpec5708 Good example. Just as USA in 1770's Ukraine is fighting against its former opressor. You win. And if you think this was ever about the people of Donbass - let's just end it here, i don't have time to entertain nonsense.

[@aliterratio3955]

Вот она анархия как есть. Сборище самовыдвиженцев, создающие самоуправство и хаос. Люди обычные страдают, ужасно.

[@vogelfenixable]

Да, анархия порожденная другой анархией.

[@hendrikdependrik1891]

So it's like the Butchering of Bucha, but then for like 7 years?

[@ribeiroz78]

22:47 "you steal, mug and ask for bribes". Russia, what a beautiful culture

[@sealtheultimate469]

Read the context

[@saucyinnit8799]

Ukraine, what a beautiful culture.* 😊

[@pykakpa6a84]

​@@saucyinnit8799придумай щось своє, чи мізків не вистачає?

[@pykakpa6a84]

​@@sealtheultimate469контекст, як будувати країну "по понятиям"?

[@saucyinnit8799]

@@pykakpa6a84 speak an actual language

[@kafiamadeus7351]

28:40 +99999 social credit

[@TrinidadJamesWoods]

3:35 damn! Santa's in the mix, wtf?!?

[@AnarchyDom]

Vice News keeps getting better and better. So many powerful moments in this mini-doc. The whole Russian Roulette series was possibly the best conflict reporting I've ever seen - I'm not sure whether that's my inexperience showing or if conflict journalists would agree with me though.

[@jasong1713]

Need some denazification in these regions

[@CD-lp3fh]

Agree

[@Cookinlikesanji]

​@@CD-lp3fhlol by Ukraine? No shot

[@pedromaurutto]

Looks like they were already working on it: On 11:18 you can see the photo of the pro Ukrainians holding the black and red flag, it's a nationalist and fascist flag tied to the Bandera movement, these guys are real nazis. It even looks like the guy in orange is doing a nazi salute, tho it's too small to tell for sure.

[@imbok]

Correction, it's the Donetsk Putin's Republic.

[@nemetskiylager]

Bro learned history at McDonalds

[@VicusBass]

Most of these thugs are roting somewhere in the fields

[@Randomguy12990]

RIP

[@VicusBass]

@@Randomguy12990 not really

[@redvlandro]

Those last words from the dad telling them to his son is painful to hear Esas últimas palabras del padre a su hijo es doloroso

[@triforcelink]

@@bololollek9245 I interpreted it as pre 2014, not necessarily Soviet Union.

[@DonDon45-i5h]

@@triforcelink he CLEARLY said "great country thats is no more", interpret my @ss

[@triforcelink]

@@DonDon45-i5h Ukraine was united until 2014. Not sure what you’re on about.

[@DonDon45-i5h]

@@triforcelink he said "big" country. ukraine aint that big. and both of us know what he was talking about. smarta$$

[@triforcelink]

@@DonDon45-i5h They’re talking in front of a burning Ukrainian flag. Ukraine was the biggest country in Europe. Dumba$$ Where was your anti west sentiment before 2014?

[@Ivan-pq9xs]

they wanted to live so independently that their flag consists of Russian flag's colour and as you have seen what country they joined in the end. this is true independence?

[@cauagabriel4761]

They made the flag, didn't they? It's similar, but is it the same? If they are seeking independence it is because they have their reasons, if they want to join the Russian Federation, it is because Russia is superior to Ukraine in all aspects, economic, educational, cultural, etc. The fact is that, without the support of Western leaders, Ukraine would not exist today, and will probably cease to exist soon, also due to the deficit in the birth rate. Furthermore, I am a Westerner, but I will never support the taxes that we Westerners pay being used to finance the war of you Ukrainians, even though military financing is starting to lose strength after the failed counter-attack by the Ukrainians.

[@JoeSmith-sl9bq]

They wanted to be independent from Ukraine, not Russia. Problem?

[@alex-E7WHU]

Britain, USA, France, Netherlands etc all have red white and blue flags.😂

[@Tierchenmeister]

Sadly, many of these seem to be stuck in the past. Stuck with old hatred. They seem so obsessed with the past and with an old conflict. And while the rest of the world tries to move on, they cling to old hatred, that is no longer valid, nor needed, isolating themselves, and bearing nothing but hatred and misery.

[@Unbrutal_Rawr]

Oh my god, where do I even start. That's like saying "Allies invaded Germany and forced a married couple by the name of Hitler to commit suicide". Completely ignoring the logical chain of cause and effect.

[@Nesphore1]

It's sad that kids are kind and reasonable than some adults are full of emotions.

[@kleefgeest]

These kids have no clue what they are talking about.

[@Ragnarswe]

If this is the second biggest city in Ukraine before the invasion and over 80% of the people voted yes in the referendum. Looking at the footage, is not that many that are joining in.

[@Fjfjcjfjcjcncj]

Its Not, the Video even Said Second biggest in eastern Ukraine.

[@Blaz_-te2ku]

We had this in Croatia in the 90s. They invaded instantly after we seceded from Yugoslavia, claiming to protect Serbian-speaking areas (languages are the same, Serbian is just simplified Croatian, as their grammar was printed 200+ years after ours and the language misses some complicated rules and regulations, making it effectively rural Croatian). In the end, we expunged their entire population from our country without committing a massacre. Best thing we ever did. Remember that ethnic cleansing and genocide are not the same thing. Ethnic cleansing can be very justified and can be done without a drop of blood. A few people knew back then it was Russia's tactics. Use a huge federation (Yugoslavia, USSR) and seed your population all over it's republics so that one day you can claim the territory as your own. This is how Serbia attempted to secure a coastline but ended up landlocked and bombed by NATO. I predicted the war in Ukraine at my university (history course) in 2009. I compared the case to Serbia, to which people, including the professor who has a doctorate in modern history, laughed at me hysterically.

[@tomislavtodorovic2254]

ne spomenu ni jednom rjecju, Jasenovac, Prebilovce , Jadovno , Pag , Livno , bezbroj hercegovackih i hrvatskih jama gde leze neduzne srpske zene i deca , poklani od zlocinacke hrvatsko-ustaske ruke , ti historicaru.

[@mutav2166]

LOL. Serbian Is not Croatian. Also 1000 YEARS FUCKED UNDER HUNGARY 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@АрыстанБайбатшаев-н7е]

"Showing the hatred for Ukraine" I can't believe you said that on 5:12. Rarely have I met such an unconsealed imposition of opinion.

[@gnas1897]

Western Media network

[@colek2470]

“We don’t want war or young guys dying for nothing” welp you got that now

[@cannedstarfish6194]

They've been bombed for 8 years. This is not the beginning of the war, it is the end of it.

[@shululu7572]

Exactly

[@F8isRIPPIN]

Are you retarded? The war has been ongoing since 2014.

[@re4796]

Freedom isn't "nothing".

[@AndisweatherCenter]

Correct lyrics 29:43 Партия Ленина - сила народная Нас к торжеству коммунизма ведёт! Partiia Lenina - sila narodnaia Nas k torzhestvu kommunizma vediot! O Party of Lenin, the strength of the people, To Communism's triumph lead us on! They were singing the USSR and not the current Russian federation anthem. 29:59 Сквозь грозы сияло нам солнце свободы, И Ленин великий нам путь озарил, На правое дело он поднял народы, На труд и на подвиги нас вдохновил. Skvoz grozy siialo nam solntse svobody, I Lenin velikij nam put ozaril, Na pravoe delo on podnial narody, Na trud i na podvigi nas vdokhnovil. Through tempests the sunrays of freedom have cheered us, Along the new path where great Lenin did lead. To a righteous cause he raised up the peoples, Inspired them to labour and valourous deed. This song ended with mentioning the victory of communism!

[@charlemagnetancio1259]

It is very absurd that these people thought they were free and independent once reunited with the fascist Russia. Are they blind? Only those in Moscow live in better life while other republics are being slave and in dire poverty. There is no freedom in Russia only authoritarian and oligarchy!

[@TSwizzle777]

Yup

[@shchadenko]

On the other side there's democratic Ukraine, with the tv channels closed by Zelensky, with the men hunted by the Ukrainian army officers like a dog all over the country.

[@cauagabriel4761]

You don't live in Russia, you haven't visited Russia, you don't even seem to have studied or researched in relation to the 2014 civil war. Russia is superior to Ukraine in every aspect, economic, political, military, educational, absolutely everything! Ukraine is a corrupt country with a presence of fascism in mercenary groups supported by Kiev. Ukraine without help from the West is nothing! we are tired of paying taxes to finance your Ukrainian war. Donbass will have a much better future as part of Russia than as part of Ukraine.