The DUMBEST Thing About HDMI (EDID)

[@brenotome]

the worst thing about auto configuring stuff, they almost never have a fallback so the user can configure it if anything goes wrong.

[@ivoivanov7407]

This! Give the user a way to bypass the automagic config. I've spend last week trying to connect an old VGA-only monitor to a not-that-old gtx 1070. Tried almost all possible combinations of port/converter, and all the time video card was sure I'm connecting HD-TV via DVI-D port, no matter where actually monitor was plug in. Until, finally, got the right DP-to-VGA cable. Only if I had a way to tell "please, output 1920x1080@60Hz to port X"...

[@vincentschumann937]

@@ivoivanov7407 on intel hd graphics you can do that

[@swaggamesph3342]

Almost all devices can be manually configured.

[@walkinmn]

This! It's a very common issue nowadays every company tries to make everything to configure, detect or change according to the environment automatically and remove (or hide) all that they can for manual configuration or user intervention . They have the idea that everything should work but the real world is very different, there's always bugs, glitches, etc. And things should be designed accordingly. The tech world needs a change of philosophy about this, there should always be a way to change settings or bypass an automated configuration when necessary because the real world is messy and their position about this only adds complications when not everything works perfectly

[@vincentschumann937]

@@swaggamesph3342 new nvidia and amd drivers are pretty retarted in configuring stuff outside of the edid

[@CaveyMoth]

NVidia Control Panel: "You want limited colors, right?"

[@killert41]

Nvidia controll panel "You are using 200hz? Not on my watch and changes it to 30hz"

[@holocaust_2.0]

@@killert41 Please turn off G-Sync and reenable V-Sync without alerting me too.

[@Shutforever]

Colors? What are those for? ... Hey! What do you think about the 1280x720 resolution? Because that's what you're gonna get from now on.

[@CaveyMoth]

@@holocaust_2.0 I have to turn G-Sync off and back on every time I switch inputs on my monitor. It isn't tested G-Sync Compatible, but it does still work with it. It's just frustrating.

[@CaveyMoth]

@@OVQ2 Are you using a monitor or an HDTV? I've heard that the limited color space was designed for older HDTVs that don't support the full SRGB color space.

[@ithinkimhipster502]

User: Why won't the image show on my monitor? Monitor: It's not my fault EDID it.

[@Zenheizer]

That's one wasn't too bad actually

[@--2]

EDIDIT

[@fintan.]

My dumbass head thought you said edit 🤣

[@razzledev]

Lol nice

[@Lock2002ful]

I’m gonna keep that it 666 likes by not liking your wonderful comment. ;)

[@peepoHappyy]

“Automagically” is the word I needed for a new year.

[@cashnelson2306]

You first heard that in 2021? They say it *on LMG videos* all the time lol

[@CollinstheClown]

Autotragicly when it fails

[@deusexaethera]

You must be new to...life...if you've never heard "automagically" before.

[@Clockwork-Shadow]

@@deusexaethera I remember the first time I heard it was waaaaaaay back in like 2008. It was that commercial for a program called "Tune up", still one of my favorite commercials of all time.

[@TerminatorSe7en]

You heard it in 2021??! It was popular way before

[@LuxLikeGaming]

So basically the dumbest thing about HDMI is actually the smartest thing about HDMI that doesnt always work correctly :D

[@FlintTD]

Yeah, but the obfuscation from the user, and inability of users to fix the issue once it's known, is very dumb.

[@der94alex]

its neat when it works but way more frustrating when it doesnt

[@scottbutler5]

"The dumbest thing about X" is almost always something trying to be "smart" and failing.

[@vashusan1984]

Typical of technology. It introduces a new paradigm that becomes the standard and when it malfunctions there isn't always a way to go back. Like all the "paperwork" at my job, soon as the network is down it is like mass chaos and everything slows way down which sucks, because patient care and expectations of healthcare delivery operate on current workflow standards dictated by technology, and are therefore usually so much faster and smoother than old paper charts and physician orders.

[@MrSongib]

YEP

[@Jaymac720]

I thought this was gonna be about HDCP. HDCP has caused infinitely more problems than it has solved. DRM in general is really useless. Nearly all of them have been defeated in some manner or another and ultimately make the legal consumer’s life more difficult.

[@AustralianMurderTurtle]

The suits and investors demand copy protection despite how useless it is.

[@kingoftherevolution4855]

Drm virtually universally is pointless but i have never seen hdcp affect me or anybody i know idk

[@Midaspl]

Dumbest thing about HDMI is actually the "piracy protection" part TBH.

[@Sponsi_PL]

Yeah, they probably "UPGRADED" it in DisplayPort...

[@Garthritis]

HDCP is not exclusive to HDMI. HDCP was developed by Intel and HDMI was developed by the various display manufactures.

[@rashidisw]

​Nonetheless HdCp pretty much pointless to prevent what its advertised to prevent for, and yet continues to produces annoyances for legitimate users. ... why this feel so familiar?

[@Garthritis]

I'm guessing someone's making some easy bucks off it.

[@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365]

@@rashidisw Pointless to prevent what its advertized to do? Sure.... But full and well suited for what its designed to be: a money grab

[@E-A-Z-Y]

PS5 currently isn’t supporting 120Hz on dozens of monitors because of EDID timings.

[@mitnightgamer3394]

I have that issue with my PS5 and my Samsung CHG90 Monitor but it worked well when my PS5 was on softwareversion 1.00

[@balake1879]

Ps5 won't get 120fps like ever

[@kadosho02]

Sigh. One thing after another.

[@doughboy924]

@@balake1879 maybe not at 4k but my rig from 2 years ago can still pull 120fps on most modern games at medium-high settings at 1080p

[@E-A-Z-Y]

@@balake1879 Factually untrue. Cold War and Dirt run 120hz @4K and 1080p.

[@dumpsterdawg]

Thought James was going to explain The DUMBEST Thing About HDMI ....Oh wait EDID

[@combax_techx]

Ok dawg

[@acupanraphaelgio7925]

Genius.

[@zenvoidd]

I hate you

[@combax_techx]

@@zenvoidd couldn't agree more

[@mridul3526]

Get out

[@whiskeythrottle9369]

I always know when Jon is the writer. You see, he has a tell.

[@stats9583]

I think he’s referring to 1:12

[@Lucas91599]

@@stats9583 now that you say it..... that’s pretty funny

[@jody024]

I just cant watch James though, his hands annoy me.

[@IncredibleJ1]

Am I wrong or is Techquickie still 16:9 while LTT is 18:9. I guess the EDID info didn’t get passed along.

[@der94alex]

so EDID´nt pass

[@professorconfundus8793]

It’s called 2:1, not 18:9. Always round down to the lowest possible point.

[@perez1fy843]

@@professorconfundus8793 no, it's easier to keep it with 9s

[@entriphy]

@@professorconfundus8793 that's not how aspect ratios work lol

[@Phambleton]

@@entriphy Uhhh yes it is

[@LasseHuhtala]

I contest that the stupidest thing about HDMI is still HDCP.

[@GoldSrc_]

THIS.

[@Garthritis]

HDCP is not really a HDMI thing. HDMI just happens to be one of the interfaces/connectors that allows for the usage of HDCP. There are ways around HDCP, and is something that I have to do for our customers that use Apple products often. It just requires hardware where you can "turn off" HDCP.

[@LasseHuhtala]

@@Garthritis I have had to "solve" it a few times using a HDCP-stripper, but that's the thing, nobody should have to. This thing is supposedly there to stop pirates, but has it ever?

[@Garthritis]

@@LasseHuhtala Technology is an arms race, for lack of a better term. The moment someone restricts something, someone else figures out a way around it. We have to bypass HDCP due to Apple MACs always outputting it, regardless of the content. This will lead to them not being able to stream AV over the various AV systems we build. So the manufactures of commercial grad AV routing gear just added a way to bypass it. Its really fucking silly.

[@mikailulum2540]

"Who broke my HDMI? You?" "No, but EDID"

[@Cmm4626]

😲

[@ijustdidahugeshit]

@@Cmm4626 I love you

[@InvinsableNoob]

Contrary to what everyone else says You did good today James You get a gold star 🌟

[@bengilbreath]

The internet is not a truck! IT'S A SERIES OF TUBES!

[@markusTegelane]

Their tubes

[@spectrum_gg]

@@markusTegelane OUR tubes

[@allenfunstuff]

Some days seems like vacuum tubes instead of fiber optic tubes where I'm at due to the large number of users and lack of system upgrades

[@wildmonkeymc2380]

Stfu pyro fan

[@SupaCLUCK]

Yes

[@EmilioBaldi]

HDCP do we want to talk about it? An HDCP compatible audio splitter costs 3 times more

[@vamwolf]

Already talk about with ltt

[@EmilioBaldi]

@@vamwolf I know, but in my opinion DHCP is even more stupid: is only an inconvenience for the users and ineffective at protecting the data stream by those who have a minimum of knowledge. In most cases if EDID fails it can be resolves by adjusting the settings; if HDCP devices do not shake hands the connection is blocked. And good luck.

[@joetheoriginalclark]

HDCP is pretty much useless as far as I can tell since a HDCP splitter costs far less than a decent hd capture card and the splitter strips the HDCP so you can just capture whatever you want. It's similar to the copy protection they put on DVDs and Blu-rays, it's just a mild inconvenience that can be a pain but in the end does basically nothing to actually reduce piracy.

[@AmauryJacquot]

then get an el-cheapo splitter that gets rid of it

[@AmauryJacquot]

@@joetheoriginalclark it can actually be a pain if your sink equipment doesn't like whatever it's sent by the source for some random reason... or in the newer versions, a broken firmware for the source has denylisted your sink equipment

[@bradleypariah]

Still better than DisplayPort constantly forgetting how many displays are plugged in, and blanking extra monitors out until you pull the power cable on the display, or reboot the PC.

[@edishasora5200]

🤔

[@jorelplay8738]

Oh boi, I had way more problems with DisplayPort than with HDMI

[@simsanutiy]

Wow, this video feels way longer than is actually is. That's a good stuff

[@sharkhead5527]

When a video feels longer its actually boring

[@Uilliam56]

I love that monitor in the background with a video that is showing linus playing cyberpunk at one and a half fps,it's like Cyberpunk in a nutshell

[@thekingishere1]

It's basically the new crysis

[@MaxCE]

Well I mean he was maxing graphics at 8k

[@Uilliam56]

@@MaxCE i know,i even watched the stream,but he had a 3090 hooked up...Not everyone even has that You gotta think that most of have 1070 1080,if not even that

[@MaxCE]

@@Uilliam56 well linus doesn't want to test cyberpunk with mid range machines so we're left clueless. Oh and linus if you're reading this, no 4k. Max resolution 1080p.

[@marceelino]

no it's not. only if you are playing on potato.

[@Phroggster]

EDID is a really odd way to spell HDCP, the actual most dumb thing about HDMI.

[@Locutus494]

They're not the same thing...

[@octorokpie]

@@Locutus494 Whoosh

[@systoxity]

So true. What a waste of tech and bandwidth

[@Lead_Foot]

@@Locutus494 That's the joke

[@imark7777777]

The identification delay is minimal we've had that standard going back to the VGA era. It's the content protection that's really the bottleneck as it has to cryptographically sign and verify and all that. Back in the analog area of composite and pre with RF there was no Size you're either PAL or ntsc and that's the size and the TV was required to work with one or less likely both.

[@Yune_Faded]

Honestly i don't get the part about self checkouts i personally love them

[@shane_MK]

He probably just means the stuff with the scales and certain items that you need a manager to ok. I don't use them because I don't work for the store. They aren't paying me or discounting my purchase. So I don't want to give them any free labor.

[@Beregorn88]

In my country some chains offer portable scanners, so you register and bag your items as you go, and when you are finished you just pay.

[@Yune_Faded]

@@shane_MK ah there I'm from do you only need an okay by any employee if the item is like alcohol or something which you need to be legal to buy. Otherwise are they just usually quicker and i can be introvert especially combined with self scanning

[@Yune_Faded]

@@Beregorn88 yup that's how it's for me there i live

[@zootopiaondvd8081]

ah a fellow introvert

[@mikkolukas]

4:07 Self-checkout works fine in all shops in Denmark. I have never encountered a problem with them. It must be a problem with your stores not updating them or something.

[@hanswurst7131]

Quick memo from germany, at REWE (like hannaford or Wallmart) you have the option to selfs-scan items when you place them in your cart/bag and then checkout with everything in the cart/bag in one go, system is called „scan&go“ but you need a „payback“ account to use it, but then: - use smartphone to unlock a „scan&go“ scanner - walk through the store, scan items the moment you take them from the shelf, place items in cart/bag - connect „scan&go“ scanner to self-check-out register, pay with smartphone (apple/ google pay) - walk to car or home

[@fungusamongus69420]

Happy new year lads

[@nil0bject]

Can you do a tech quickie about why every “standard” in tech has dumb things built into them? Is it just a lack of testing or greed for money?

[@ptgb3007]

2:12 hidden linus

[@alizomorodi1382]

where ?

[@ptgb3007]

@@alizomorodi1382 in tv screen

[@navb0tactual]

It's his meme face From the video in which he was considering to retire or something

[@ikwilgewoonfilmpje]

4:12 "So here we are" Every tech user ever nods in agreement

[@SupaCLUCK]

Disappointed that the next-gen consoles don’t support DisplayPort.

[@cashwood]

yeah but HDMI 2.1 is just as good as DP 1.4

[@patrickaicheler]

@@cashwood that's right, but for me, the dp plug is just so much better with it's locking mechanism. Just more convenient

[@kusayfarhan9943]

@@patrickaicheler The locking mechanism would probably cause more issues in a gaming console. Imagine all the kids that try to pull out the cable without the release and it damages the port.

[@SupaCLUCK]

@@cashwood The issue is that a lot of monitors/TVs don’t support HDMI 2.1

[@Lead_Foot]

@@cashwood HDMI 2.1 is significantly better than DP 1.4.

[@tiaxanderson9725]

I've heard several complaints about self-checkouts from several countries. But no details. What the hell is going on there? You have items in your cart, you scan them, pay, get receipt that opens the gate, and you're off. Every so often, before you pay, it says "You may be checked, please wait" in which 3/7 times a store person comes along and checks a few items and you get to go. How does this process suck?

[@forestsmills]

Wow I'm actually here before an hour has passed

[@swmltrainspotting]

Same

[@techhelpportal7778]

Dido

[@ryder6860]

Fr same

[@Garrettdx1988]

Wow are you? So interesting

[@forestsmills]

@@Garrettdx1988 :/ normally I don't get notifications for videos until an hour or two has passed

[@user-vn7ce5ig1z]

4:07 - Gotta love how the self-checkout scale has a lip on it so that large items don't fit properly to put their whole weight on the scale, causing the machine to think there's a problem and make you wait for an employee, thus defeating the point to self-checkout. Brilliant design. 😒

[@ZTanMURReneRs]

Is this a US thing? In the Netherlands self checkout just basically works really well.

[@derdavidspielt]

As a video technician for events working with broken edid every day I'm crying rn 🙆‍♂️

[@ijustdidahugeshit]

I agree with you because I am a qualified lesbian

[@jaco2544]

For anyone curious about the song in the background at the start of the video it's Always Foggy by Christian Nanzell

[@NoLongo]

CEC sucks too. Every brand ran with their own implementation and if it didn’t work they said “oh well”

[@Rakumei672]

It really is terrible. It got a lot better lately but I still have issues with some of my components. So I bought a Harmony remote. And LG, with all their intelligence, doesn't allow CEC to be disabled on my BluRay player. So sometimes the player comes on by itself and then turns off because it receives the signal from the remote. Frustrating. But if I disable it on Harmony so the TV can power it on by itself, it won't come on 50% of the time.

[@lordeilluminati]

@@Rakumei672 this is not cec, it is the magic remote functionality of newer LG models, CEC respond to HDMI signals, this converts the remote itself to an universal one that you can use on multiple devices. Disable the "Automatic Device Detection" and if you want, the HDMI CEC too. My remote was set to the set top box, but everytime I connected my Xbox One it would pick up and forget the set top box settings and I had to manually set again to make the remote work again for my mom to watch TV because the television itself doesnt see this set top box as a known device like the Xbox One, now it doesnt happen anymore.

[@cyda87]

The first video from Techquickie in 2021! YAY!

[@ithinkimhipster502]

Why did the monitor cross the road? I don't know why, it's a monitor, but EDID it anyway.

[@hasibuzzamantonmoy8845]

xD

[@_ryanlin_]

This channel is just full of hdmi rants and I love it

[@Alainzzz]

Hey, Self checkout dosen't suck in my country!

[@esbjornssonjesper1797]

Yea we scan as we pick stuff off the shelf and then pay at the end.. no weighing! It's awesome!

[@AttilaMatolcsy]

Hungary: Tesco: Works fine and checks weight. The only problem is that we can't put things away till we checked out. Auchan: Fine, cart to cart for fast service More tests.

[@douglasbarr2636]

In my country half of the people don't even know how to work the self check-out and they can't get help cuz the employees aren't doing they're job.

[@AttilaMatolcsy]

@@douglasbarr2636 it was the same here, patience was the key.

[@gp3328]

Good on y'all for doing a techquickie on new years day

[@narutrixil]

IMO the dumbest thing about HDMI is that they removed the screws. I NEVER had a connection problem with VGA, but HDMI cables break way more often!

[@SpunkyGo0se]

VGA screws were awful.

[@geoffreybassett6741]

Agreed, I would love it to at least have the option of screws!

[@MrMattumbo]

Display port has a locking mechanism, much simpler to use than the screws and just as effective (assuming you don't plan to lift your device up by the cable, it's not that strong like the screws were but it won't ever just fall out or get knocked loose).

[@Lead_Foot]

Breaking away is better than physically breaking.

[@FerralVideo]

Fun fact! EDID was introduced in VGA, and was carried on one of the pins that was previously unused in the original spec. This is how we've had "Plug and Play Monitors" for decades now. This is also why we're running into the EDID character limits - the protocol is still, eventually, backwards compatible with the tiny EPROMS that were burned into those old tube monitors to tell your PC that they're capable of 1024x768...

[@MrUnknownuser164]

HDMI is such an overused connection at this point.

[@Nathan.150]

Haha remember SCART

[@antoniomaglione4101]

It took more than ten years for laptop computers to properly manage "Power Management" into computer BIOS. Yes, from 1995 to 2006. In 2006, it become possible to close the lid of the computer, and - upon reopening it - everything was working as supposed to be. Now it is more than ten years that EDID is around (I began seeing it after Win 98) but the level of annoyance to customers is far from the unruly power management in laptops... Thanks for the video...

[@combax_techx]

when u r so early that Morgan or Dumpster dawg haven't made a joke in comments.

[@combax_techx]

@Malachai Carter he is too powerful

[@morgan1168]

Save your breath. You’ll probably need it to blow up your next date.

[@phineas6432]

@@morgan1168 🤣🤣🤣👍👍

[@combax_techx]

@@morgan1168 atleast I have a date

[@kharanshunaghera8213]

Whoa Morgan got owned

[@justatiger6268]

This video has explained some of the weird problems I've been having connecting stuff via HDMI. Love this channel!

[@smellthel]

I thought he was gonna say how theres nothing to hold the cable in

[@zachcrawford5]

The "blank screen" at 2:13 has an image of Linus wearing headphones burnt into it.

[@blunderingfool]

I’ve never heard anyone pronounce Eee-Dee-I-Dee as “Eedid”.

[@Zefar77]

Self checkout here in Sweden are pretty good. You just need to scan the items and then put them in the bag. Once all items are scanned you pay for them and move out. It's actually nice using them because I cut the time by a lot instead of being in a normal queue.

[@griffithchung9377]

In theory that's how they're supposed to work here in North America too. In practice, you're lucky if you manage to get through the whole scanning process without the machine's built-in scale either failing to detect an item you've scanned and put into the bag or detecting some weight that isn't there, either of which forces you to stop and wait around like an idiot until a human employee can come around and override the error. Are your Swedish machines calibrated so much better than the ones they installed here? If so, we need some of them in my local supermarket immediately.

[@Zefar77]

@@griffithchung9377 There are 2 types of them. But neither rely on weight to check what you've scanned. The first type just needs you to show the items bar code to the scanner to make it scan the item. The times something needs to be checked is if you bought an item that is age restricted or if you bought a lot of items. Then a worker will come over to scan a few items and it'll be done. But as long as you've done neither of those things you just need to scan the items and put them in a bag. Then pay with your creditcard and you can leave with the receipt that you need to open the gates with. The other type, which I like more, lets you get a personal hand scanner with the store card for that store, that you carry around the store. With this you scan all of the items you need to buy and can put it in a bag right away. As before if you buy an age restricted item or if it's a bit too many items a worker will come over once you need to pay for it to scan a few of the stuff to see that it's valid. To pay for the stuff with the hand scanner, you put it back into one of the slots for a hand scanner and use your store card again. Then you pay for it with your own creditcard and can now leave with the receipt that you need to open the gates with.

[@griffithchung9377]

@@Zefar77 Thanks for the wonderfully detailed explanation. What you describe in Sweden is so elegant and straightforward I could cry. Unfortunately, its apparent reliance on a basic honor system leaves me with no hope whatsoever that US storeowners would ever even consider enacting such a system. Perhaps there are tighter security measures in place beyond what you mentioned, but it sounds as though your stores generally trust their customers to act in good faith, and have determined that whatever small amount might be lost because of laxer security is a price worth paying in exchange for providing a positive shopping experience to those customers. Retailers in this country have made the exact opposite calculation. Profit margins for grocers here are very thin at the best of times, so theft prevention is something of an obsession to them, to the point that they've decided they're okay with inconveniencing their customers a bit so long as it stops even a little unpaid merchandise from escaping the store. Combine that with the general deficit of social trust we operate under compared to what you're probably used to in Scandinavia, and I just can't imagine a world in which retailers here will ever feel anything other than nausea at the thought of members of the public taking items off the shelf and dropping them directly in their own bag without some form of direct human or technological supervision to ensure they were scanned and paid for correctly.

[@xasmaniusvolk8416]

So much bullsh*t with HDMI. People hate to hear it,but: the good ol' Times.......

[@jlco]

Ah yes, the good old times of DisplayPort. Unless you're talking about VGA or DVI, in which case, why?

[@xasmaniusvolk8416]

@@jlco I mean why is it not as simple as with scart (yeah sure quality wasn't the best but at least it just works,every time- I can even use the TVs speakers by Connecting the cable to my devices)

[@dbwt3ch814]

Happy new year, keep up the good videos in 2021!!

[@thephoenix7435]

Linus is chilling behind :D And Happy New Year to the LTT family.. ❤🎀

[@tomanderson2006]

And others ??

[@thephoenix7435]

@@tomanderson2006 Aren't we part of the LTT family? 🙃 Of c we are

[@tomanderson2006]

@@thephoenix7435 i am

[@ultimate1364]

This is why I watch all your channels

[@mike000000000000able]

Thanks for my first quickie of the year

[@Magnum69]

I appreciate putting another video in the background so we can multi-task and watch 2 videos at the same time

[@allansh828]

FreeSync sometimes works on my TV sometimes it doesn't. HDMI 2.1 is such a mess right now.

[@RokeJulianLockhart.s4eb2q]

Or potentially EDID is.

[@driverdis3488]

I currently have an HD Fury EDID Doctor on the way due to how magical EDID is. The Fire TV line of devices don’t let you disable HDR fully and neither does the TV. When watching stuff that looks worse in HDR like some Netflix shows, my TV goes right ahead and advertises full HDR support via EDID with no way to change this. Now at least with EDID Doctor I can tell my Fire Stick that my TV does not support HDR so it won’t switch automatically when watching content available in HDR.

[@wh1plash7]

The bad thing is that hdmi doesnt make a sound like the usb when plugged in Wh1plash has spoken

[@dylabb]

thank you Wh1plash

[@wimvanerge5210]

Thanks, Wh1plash, you're right

[@yaro_sem]

Windows 10 v. 1909 - HDMI has literally the same sounds as USB.

[@AvocadoDiaboli]

4:09 Um, we have found a way that makes self checkouts not suck. The store I go to allows me to scan my purchases as I'm pulling them out of the shelves with an app of theirs on my phone and at the checkout I can transfer all the scanned data to the register in a matter of seconds. The usual time I spend at the checkout is 20-30 seconds tops, if I'm not buying something alcoholic where my age needs to be verified by an employee, and I can scan my groceries while I'm walking from one thing to the next one and put them into my bags right then and there.

[@TechedOff]

So is the white background not a thing anymore in Techquickie videos? I kind of miss it...

[@_gnit]

My burnt retinas sure dont.

[@tsusai]

This is why I still use Toslink out to my receiver from my TV. Once less HDMI thing in the middle to mess things up.

[@LaDeXi]

Nvidia GPU's still can't output surround sound through TV's because the EDID tells that the TV only has stereo speakers even if it's connected to a receiver via HDMI ARC.

[@CaptainVKanth]

Which is odd because a check on Nvidia's site shows it supports a range of surround sound option.

[@Jeffmorgan83]

It might depend on the TV. I'm using a GTX1080Ti connected to a Samsung Q800T 8K TV with ARC being sent down to my Denon receiver. I'm getting full surround sound. Edit: I had to adjust a couple ARC settings in the TV menu under "sound options" to make that happen.

[@LaDeXi]

@@CaptainVKanth Oh it does support and it does work if I connect the GPU directly to the receiver and disable ARC but that kills the audio from TV and Xbox then.

[@LaDeXi]

@@Jeffmorgan83 Well there are multiple threads about this issue on Nvidia's own forums ranging all the way back to GT220 era. I have Sony X850C and Yamaha receiver. I have given up on this after I got ultrawide monitor on PC because it would be way too much effort to change the display resolution, refresh rate and sound options every time I want to use TV.

Self Checkout in Norway does not suck. Most of them also has fingerprint readers for verifying age of the person for things like alcohol, if registered in that particular store (data stored locally for privacy).

[@dasistwalter96]

Another clickbait title for Techquickie. This is an awful direction for a channel whose purpose is quick and easy to understand explanations. Please reconsider this

[@ksks6802]

Hmmm. Why? Because it's mostly a. Non-issue for most people?

[@Jaymac720]

What’s clickbaity about it? The title is exactly what the video is about. EDID issues are very dumb because they’re likely easy to solve if the manufacturers can agree on how to implement it

[@dasistwalter96]

@@Jaymac720 I don't know what the video is about by looking at the title. It's about SOMETHING about HDMI. I don't know what exactly until I'm already watching the video. Don't you think that "EDID as fast as possible" would be a better title? That's the title format this channel used to use, and what made it so appealing. Sensational quotes like "THE DUMBEST THING ABOUT HDMI" and "WINDOWS WON'T LET YOU DO THIS" actively degrade the quality of an otherwise useful channel. It's bullshit and LMG needs to be called out for it

[@pacifico4999]

The channel was never the same since they stopped with the AFAP series 4 years ago. I guess their current direction gave better results, though it is less useful.

[@Tiger9194]

@@dasistwalter96 agreed, the video isn't even about HDMI, and doesn't seem to be the fault.of it either.

[@katherinelima7432]

SO THIS IS WHY!! I have a 4k secondary monitor that almost always shows a black screen or flickering when I first turn on my computer. The only way to fix it is by going (Windows Key) + P to disconnect the monitor, wait a second, and then connect it again. I never understood why this had to be done every time. Now I see that it's probably just forcing EDID to run and correctly configuring the data. Thanks Techquickie!

[@barbieroberts6694]

VGA> HDMI. VGA uses EDID over I²C since the early 90s.

[@Thomogon]

What's also a gribe I have with HDMI is when you don't use the audio streaming option and opt for a solution like a professional studio audio interface you have to uninstall the HD Audio drivers in your GPU's control panel. If you don't, the two drivers will almost litterally fight for dominance with each other, and Windows doesn't really like that so it just crashes. Took me about 6 months to figure out where the issue came from and how to solve it.

[@theshadowman1398]

The DRM crap that comes with HDMI is wrong on all levels. That’s why I only use optical.

[@cyberdusttv]

I Sure do want to see that monitor with an optical video input

[@heavyhittersirl]

There is probably a schematic somewhere detailing a fully functioning internet infrastructure based on Optics and Satalite Comms.

[@theshadowman1398]

@@cyberdusttv The audio part.

[@dschaedler]

We have figured out how to make self checkout nice: 1. amazon go stores which you guys did a video on 2. we have a system here in a local store called globus (germany) where you get a scanner at the shop entrance and scan everything you put into your basket; you then just pay at the payment terminal in front of the exit and thats it. They now also have an app which lets you scan the items with your phone. I am always annoyed if I need to go to a different store for groceries..

[@DionLewiis]

TechQuickie used to be an informative KZbin channel. I would search KZbin for something I would like information on, invariably i would be greeted with a video from them with a title that I would know was the video I wanted to watch. However now with these dumb clickbait titles, we as viewers don’t know what kind of information we would be told in the video. I hate how KZbin has changed over the years.

[@suisegs69420]

This tbh

[@SlayerOfHellWyrm]

Except, this is accurate. HDMI EDID is so inconsistent, and causes so many issues. As a person who works for a manufacturer of HDMI equipment like splitters, switches, EDID emulators, etc. I can tell you that most issues people see with HDMI are either from EDID being dumb as shit, and needing a few hot plugs to kick on correctly, or the occasional HDCP issue with people who don't understand what it is, and why you might not be allowed to connect a paid satellite TV box to a video capture card for instance....

[@DionLewiis]

SlayerOfHellWyrm SlayerOfHellWyrm it doesn’t really matter how good the information is if it’s not targeted towards the people that are actually interested in that specific topic. Why wouldn’t they call it “HDMI EDID Explained” or “Extended Display Identification Data Explained”? which is what the video primarily covers.

[@rjhornsby]

Sounds as if EDID is competing for HDCP’s long-held title as worst, most unfriendly garbage in HDMI.

[@itsdeonlol]

Jokes on all of you, I'm still using VGA...

[@bitrot42]

Actually, EDID exists in a simpler form for VGA as well. It was added some time around the dawn of the Windows 95 era. It's what made "plug and play monitor" a thing in Control Panel. Fortunately, it was so unreliable that it always allowed he user to override it if needed. Long live VGA!

[@bitrot42]

@@nobody7817 Y🟪E🟦S⬜️! Check out the video “CGA Graphics - Not as bad as you thought!” from The 8-Bit Guy. Blew my mind..,

[@light-master]

"This empty bag weighs too much" You must shop at Walmart too, lol

[@johns4135]

2:16 did anyone else notice the meme on the tv screen

[@Weaponized_Poutine]

as an HDMI manufacture tech support for the last 10 years, Thank you!

[@Ben-vt2tn]

Step up , step up , claim your notif squad tickets !

[@mosemister]

There is another issue with HDMI which is that it uses the same protocols as DVI, one of these protocols prevents more then 2 monitors to be extended (as in different images on each monitor), meaning that those who have triple monitor setups typically have at least one monitor connected via DP and its also why you typically wont find more then 2 DVI based inputs on a graphics card

[@benjaminsieuw3556]

"I didn't choose this resolution!? EDID!"

[@frollard]

I'm reminded of failing to use a Telus PIK tv box for similar reasons - it didn't identify my HDCP compliant receiver+projector as an HDCP chain, despite the playstation (particularly bluray), chromecast, and computer all supporting it and reporting the chain was intact. It only output a 640p picture saying hdcp not supported and wouldn't go further. Support from telus said "you shouldn't use this (android tv box) in a home theatre, plug it into your tv". ...I don't own a tv. That got returned in a hurry.

[@Asav_Edits]

Not first

[@crimson-dragon6678]

The Amazon store fixed the issues with self checkout. Where you just take what you want and leave and automatically get charged

[@gamershruti5351]

To The Early Squad Reading this: Sending Virtual Hugs to everyone who need it always stay safe read my name❣️

[@kamelkhayata5752]

Gamer Shruti no one cares

[@Dcheck]

@@kamelkhayata5752 Why you gotta be so rude?

[@mrsideperson8405]

love u

[@aszneehitme8691]

@@harshranjan8526 What? Edit: Well, that guy deleted his comment

[@kamelkhayata5752]

Michael Dvoracek how is that being rude

[@semicontalk3223]

Nice explanation and hope to have more smarter technologies.

[@TheGamingSharieff]

Claim your “here before a million views” ticket here

[@BODYBUILDERS_AGAINST_FEMINISM]

No thanks

[@SliceofKris]

glad to see vince on this channel I love his videoes they are extremely helpful

[@j3bb9z]

I actually like self-checkouts. Especially the ones where you can scan products with your smartphone and just pay before leaving the store.

[@j3bb9z]

@@nobody7817 Maybe let's ban tractors, harvesters and other farming machines? We'll need to employ so many more people! Seriously, there are better things to do for people. Automation is inevitable. And actually, as research shows - automation didn't increase unemployment rate so far.

[@WilliamNeacy]

Self checkout is amazing. It's the people loading up the scale with expensive stuff, then using the plu code for bananas........

[@BoHolbo]

Point Of Sale system terminology NERD!! 😄

[@justsomeperson5110]

So basically the old engineering trope of "the more complex a system, the more chances it has to fail" is combined with modern coding practices of "screw thorough testing, if someone finds a bug we'll release a patch later" ... which often doesn't actually happen when users do find the inevitable bugs, because why waste money supporting a product that was already paid for when you can instead put that money into developing the Next Big Thing instead.

[@justsomeperson5110]

In my decades of internal experience as a developer and engineer, this basically comes down to the engineers screaming, "WE NEED MORE RESOURCES TO FIX THIS!!!" while management says back, "Too bad, just make it work. We don't care about ethics or our brand being associated with quality. We only care about making more money." And to some extent, that kind of diametrically opposed balance is needed to keep companies profitable because engineers in search of perfection can lose sight of "good enough". But especially since the internet started making aftermarket patching so easy, management heads have totally dropped any and all concept of quality assurance from their list of priorities and often force development on very outdated engines/designs that aren't meant to do as much as they are forced to, when a simple redesign to be more flexible/robust going forward would save future manhours well beyond their initial cost compared to continuing to force outdated systems to be more than they ever were designed to be. All because that initial much-needed redesign cost might delay the next release slightly and because they fail to see the point of redesigning something that at first glance will do exactly the same thing as the outdated design, not understanding the future benefits vs the future costs. Upper management doesn't care about the future. They're hyper-focused on shining in only the next shareholder/stock period and have no ability to comprehend a five-year plan. And worse, when they do finally almost get the need they've neglected, they think the "easy" and "quick" solution of outsourcing it to the lowest bidding third party with absolutely no internal knowledge or standards to adhere to is going to magically solve everything and not in any way make the situation much much much worse. Or, in other words, it's a multiple- industry-wide phenomenon/problem and not just limited to HDMI.

[@swaggamesph3342]

This can cause a BIG problem to our non tech savvy family members which ends up calling us to re-configure their devices. I really miss the analouge days where every problem is simple.😆

[@AWPOwnz24]

That's a good point... Why do self checkouts still suck...?

[@why_tho_]

Appreciate the addition of subtitles including other languages.

[@NirateGoel]

They have, some don't have the buggy weight detectors and others will ask if you brought your own bag when it detects something off and if so will stop measuring weight.

[@LeafMaltieze]

As someone who's job has been to run a Self Check out, the corporations that pay for these machines have shockingly low standards, and the companies that program them have 0 communication with the people that actually work with them. They are bad, not because we can't figure it out, but because it's not a priority of the people paying for them. Within 10 years every grocery store that it's a mom&pop will be using systems like the Amazon Stores, with no cashiers, and no check outs at all. Why bother improving your current system, when you can replace it entirely, and lay off 20% of the your workforce without loosing any profit margin? Kroger, and Wal-mart already have a few test stores around the country with a similar setup to the Amazon stores. It's only a matter of time.

[@TimothyBoersma99]

I bought a receiver to make life 'easier'. Spent the next few days trying to figure out why on earth I wouldn't get my tv to show picture. Tried every trick in the book, tried different monitors (which worked), to then come to conclusion that the hdmi cable I was using only worked when connected directly to a tv and not (for some reason) through a receiver.

[@AvanteTard]

EDID Rules. If there were an EDID gui that didn't curate and limit what a user could select (basically the current process/settings menu) it would be a nightmare.... either allowing all combinations of variables, most of which would not work anywhere, or curate a list of all working edid combos such that your mission for, say, 1280x760p 75hz is convoluted by a multitude of factors and you have hundreds of variations to choose from in a dropdown or series of dropdowns. The way it is set up is definitely 1000 times easier, even if it means buying an external edid manager to avoid dumping and modifying edid source in hex for the oddest cases.

[@jwillisbarrie]

thanks for adding actual closed captions.

[@haudace]

Happy new year to LTT family... I am waaaay too early - I wonder is this bottle has something to do with it.

[@DigitalDiabloUK]

I've got a handful of EDID copiers/ setters in line for just such a problem. My use case though is a stateful application that can't handle resolution changes when a screen is switched off, like a video conference app for a room which freaks out when the screen goes to sleep.

[@Manodragon]

Nice to see HDTV channel here. Vincent's really good