The Dynon Certified Avionics Panel Upgrade Starts - Episode #09 - Dynon Skyview HDX

[@321southtube]

......the old gauges....pop them in wood stands. They'll look awesome on the mantel or in the office

[@PatrickJoannisse]

"Rip and tear...until it is done" - DOOM/also Chris

[@brewski118sempire]

When the doom music kicks in

[@JoelAAK]

That is truly frightening tangle of veins and capillaries behind that board. Let the transplant begin!

[@MasterKurisu]

Awesome that you were able to partner with Dynon! Can't wait to see how the panel comes out.

[@mriley4955]

Glen, I discovered your cooking channel a year or so ago and just love your manner of presentation. But as a former commercial airline pilot and OEM Test Pilot, I have become hooked on this rebuild. I think you are doing a fantastic job and I can't wait to see your jet rebuild. I know, I know you don't have a jet.......yet!

[@michaellyon9220]

Glen , Glen you have all this new awesome Dynon stuff , what about a blender , what if you wanna make a smoothie up there lol 😝

[@shasbucks]

Me and my mate are loving this also. Hi Jim if you're scrolling the comments haha

[@Corndog4382]

Old gauges make awesome book ends and self ornaments

[@capsel22]

I love seeing the wee tractor :D

[@skycarl]

You're lucky to have a certified guy like Chris there for sure. So many little things have to be done. Looking forward to the next video on this Glen. Thanks for taking us along.

[@stevemagnuson7051]

A&P/IA here. Looking great guys! Recommend replacing the u-joints that attach the yokes. You will find they have a little slop. Mcfarlane sells them.

[@murlthomas2243]

I have two loose wires, and I panic. I admire Chris’s expertise. He didn’t even break a sweat.

[@airplaneian]

I am so excited for all this glass! I just got checked out in a Cherokee Six with a G3X, G5, and GNS 530 and I feel absolutely spoiled compared to what I had available on the training aircraft I did my primary in. I can see traffic and send flight plans back and forth on my iPad with Foreflight and quickly pull up charts on the touch screen. It's such an incredible situational awareness booster.

[@JulioBS820]

Huge fan, binge watched 1-8 in a night. Absolutely love the content glen!

[@sey1yes2]

thanks for sharing all the details of your new "toys". Even though I don't fly, I wanna learn just so I can use the instruments!

[@beaviswashere8009]

"four unknown wires" Just like the 2 extra bolts when I fixed my car 🤪(yes I figured out where they went later)

[@banrircardot]

Thanks for the content Glen. I share your feeling that is seems overwhelming. Hopefully watching you do all this will give me confidence on my project. Thanks again.

[@eugeneweaver3199]

Very nice 👍

[@kbjerke]

Good stuff, Glen! You are going to have the most up-to-date 172 on the planet!!

[@dood646]

This is going to be a very fun plane to fly. I'm excited for you that you did it your way and it's coming along so fast. Very much admire someone who gets after it like you do as opposed to procrastinators like me.=)

[@larrymac8538]

Dynon makes some neat gear and they do really good work with Experimental builders!

[@daedalus333666999]

Chris seems like a really nice guy.

[@alisonb1726]

Up until very recently this was my every day at work. You've got an excellent AME in Chris. This is going to be a beautiful panel when you're finished.

[@ItsKibet]

Wow some great goodies for your aircraft!

[@davidfarrish3768]

Well done great video. Your pace was perfect. Cannot wait to see all this go into the plane. 👍👍

[@Kinkajou1015]

She's coming along beautifully, I await the next update with baited breath.

[@321southtube]

Exciting....Awesome. Good for you Glen!

[@DeTrOiTXX12]

I'm really enjoying these videos Glen!

[@Sk8free09]

This will be a neat plane. Typically I’m a keep it classic guy but this is so functional! And the organization is very satisfying. Lol

[@robertadams2857]

Nice videos, thanks. A daunting project.

[@debrasimon797]

This is great to see

[@michaels7730]

Always love the uploads, thanks Glen!

[@60sSam]

"I'm a little worried." Yeah that describes building a computer for the first time pretty well.

[@PatrickPoet]

Didn't notice it the last time I watched this video, but this time I noticed the right wheel and especially the front wheel are low on air. No wonder you struggled to get it moving;)

[@samwebb585]

The faces on those old dials / gauges are beautiful for a typography geek like me. They're great. Thanks for the enjoyable watch. Glad to see you're making progress!

[@SimonAmazingClarke]

Exciting times

[@tomdchi12]

Looking forward to the painful detail!

[@XMarkxyz]

Oh I was looking farward for this (honestly it's like that for every video) but a completely new panel is something you don't see very often

[@EngineeringVignettes]

I guess the GPS module just spits out a NMEA data stream then... the satellite receivers and ephemeris calculations are all done at the antenna. Must have a pretty good operating temp rating! On that new glass, have not seen that many D-Sub connectors in a long time. Back in the eighties i was manufacturing some aircraft boxes.. lots of work with PEM nuts, brushed anodized aluminum, D-Sub conns and teflon wire. Good times. Cheers,

[@JohnSuave]

I love this channel, I'm just worried about it ending way too soon 😅

[@FowlerAskew]

It seems like a much better design to have the GPS antenna and receiver in the same module like this. GPS signals are really weak so you want to minimize transmission losses between the antenna and receiver

[@K0S0s]

Its simple. i see the video, i click the video, i like the video, i want more video.

[@jessbush1017]

wonder how the weight of the old compare with the weight of the new-still watching so perhaps yet to come. enjoyable.

[@GlensHangar]

There will be a fairly significant weight loss - we'll do a tally near the end when we do a full clean sheet weight and balance.

[@KRich408]

The look on your face right after you showed the Wig Wag device "😧😧😧 my god its never going to work again 😧😧😧"

[@thelinns]

Life should never be daunting if you have a Chris by your side.

[@pilotlangdon]

Can you do a complete cost breakdown for all this stuff. I have the exact same aircraft in Saskatchewan and I am looking to do this exactly as you are! Also, how does this stuff hold up temperature wise? Can it be stored in an UN heated hangar? We get -40 to -50 a few weeks a year.

[@GlensHangar]

The full Dynon price breakdown is here: www.dynoncertified.com/pdfs/Price-Sheet-single-web.pdf They also have a downloadable Excel spreadsheet that you can download and work up your own system: www.dynoncertified.com/aml.php#amlpricing

[@BattlestarCanada]

Pretty cool that it's all DB9 serial communication. I am pretty impressed with the sheer simplicity of the Dynon product line. What I am more interested in is interference resistance... EG: That Alternator makes a ton of noise, what systems for mitigation of that? -- also RF, you have a radio / ads setup, what are the specs on that equipment for interference resilience? Go Glen! Loving this series! - ZM from Halton

[@VeteranAviator]

I don’t know all the beeps and squeaks of the system. I can tell you that with the shielded and grounded (bonded) wiring there is no perceptible interference with this system. Mine is the first plane I’ve flown that you don’t hear the strobes in the comm system. The wiring is all high quality shielded wire with the exception of the EGT/CHT spades which should be replaced prior to install. They are known to have issues and I had 2 on my own.

[@VeteranAviator]

I should have been more clear. I just did a very similar Dynon upgrade to my own plane.

[@tsummers122]

They say that automotive technology is several years behind but aircraft tech is still using serial port? I guess reliability is proven through time.

[@bartofilms]

Hi Glen. Curious what pieces are still needed to make it fully IFR compliant. Seems you have everything there. Cheers.

[@GlensHangar]

I haven't done all the research yet, so I'm not completely sure - but it would at least need an IFR certified GPS unit. We'll go down that rabbit hole next fall.

[@KENNEY1023]

Should be interesting watching the install of the new equipment. Just curious as to what do you have to do in the plane to prepare for the new equipment? I can only think you would need to cut out tge aluminum panel that held the old equipment and get a new piece of aluminum and make holes in it as needed to fit all of the new equipment.

[@GlensHangar]

Cutting the new panel is part of it; laying out where all of the pieces go in the panel is a huge deal. Also laying out where the components go 'behind the scenes', some will need to be in the tail / wings. Adding probes and wiring for a new engine management system that's part of the Dynon package will also take some time. And - since we've got it all apart... I'm replacing all of the electrical system / wiring / switches etc. Clean sheet install. So I have to pull new wire to all of the lights, etc.

[@philiposm]

Looked like there was a fair bit of rust at 2:31 on a weld??? Or am I just in left field?

[@GlensHangar]

Not sure what you're seeing? I know that there was a lot of glue and old insulation up under the panel - nothing in there is welded, or even steel / iron.

[@philiposm]

@@GlensHangar it was up towards the top of the frame. It’s likely the glue or insulation as you mentioned.

[@ryanfriedrich7202]

What are you doing with those guages I would love to buy one I like those things

[@mapleleaf4ever]

Looking good! Why did you choose the tail for the magnetometer over a wing location? Just curious. Better access?

[@GlensHangar]

Easier access and wire run - put it beside the ELT - also levelling and orienting it in the tail is far easier. If this was a homebuilt and the wing was open, it might be a completely different conversation?

[@mapleleaf4ever]

Makes sense! I am a fan of having easier access. All the Garmin and other installs I've come across have been in the wing. Good to know that the tail is practical too!

[@VA3JPX]

Hey Glen, will you be replacing the windshield as well?

[@GlensHangar]

Yes - the windshield is being replaced while the panel is out.

[@VA3JPX]

@@GlensHangar It's going to be brand new when you are done with it. :)

[@ShawnBlairME]

Great watching your progress Glenn. Curious, did you weigh the instruments you took out to compare to the new systems? Not sure if it would affect w&b. Wish I had something from my Skyland.

[@GlensHangar]

We've done so much work and made so many changes, that a full scratch weight and balance will be done at the end of the project.

[@VeteranAviator]

My panel lost 21lbs

[@miked2662]

My goal with my plane is to have steam dials primary, and the most basic glass unit as backup.

[@RonOhio]

I would be worried, I lived by the mantra "nine times out of ten, it's the cable". That's a lot of cables and connectors.

[@mikejackman4416]

Just found your channel,,great series,,,,just wondering if you had looked into the owner maintenance category?

[@GlensHangar]

I did - and almost went down that road. But, the FAA will no longer allow Canadian owner maintenance aircraft into American airspace. Not sure what the problem is, since they still allow Canadian homebuilt aircraft in.

[@mikejackman4416]

@@GlensHangar ohh I didn’t realize that about the FAA I thought you couldn’t sell it in the US good to know great series I’m enjoying it..I’m rebuilding a Fokker DR1 replica

[@64CadFltwd]

Hey Glen! Very cool, nice video. Question, will this aircraft only have a VFR panel, or will you eventually have everything needed for IFR as well?

[@GlensHangar]

Initially VFR only - I'll be adding to it over the coming year for an IFR panel.

[@64CadFltwd]

@@GlensHangar Awesome! Can’t wait to see those videos!

[@VA3ELX]

One question Glen, does the GPS antennae have ADS-B and ADS-C downlink (data Cable) so you can get data for forefllight app or anything like that? Gonna be a sweet ride Glen. It amazes me as a airline pilot, how GA aircraft have way better avionics than we do on a 737 or DHC8.

[@carbo19]

my understanding is the GPS smart antenna from Dynon is passive - only reports NMEA data via serial to the panel so any reporting is done from a separate radio component

[@devildogkilo]

How much did all the analog gauges weigh??

[@Mister_Mag00]

are you going to keep the venturi attached? cuz it looks cool on the plane :D

[@GlensHangar]

I thought about it, but decided to take it off. Reduce the drag, and then add more drag with external cameras. The whole process is a give and take.

[@vaclavzeleny5717]

Does someone know what communication bus is used in airplane like this?

[@VeteranAviator]

I’m interested to see how easy it will be to see the info on the smaller screen. There’s a lot of mandatory info that you can’t, legally, remove.

[@johncurzonjr]

Glen great video. I just found your channel. I bought a 1960 172a in November. N7812T. Old panel partly removed. I was going to dynon panel installed. Should I contact them to suggest certified installer? Or should I have them install at their factory?

[@challenger2aircraftadventures]

You are way too early opening your Christmas Presents! Don't be surprised if Saint Nicholas leaves a lump of coal in your stocking for Christmas, for jumping the gun on this. (just kidding) Cheers from Winnipeg.

[@marccostanzo2337]

Looking at the old v new instruments, it seems the plane will lose some weight. Have you determined how much?

[@kjdude8765]

He mentioned in a response to another similar question that they will do a complete weight and balance when everything is finished.

[@donjohnston3776]

Keep an eye on ANGLE OF ATTACK on KZbin. Chris Palmer is doing a similar project to you on a 63 172D.

[@GlensHangar]

He's doing a great series over there!

[@stephenreese5921]

Install a Fst Stack to upgrade any avionics.

[@GlenAndFriendsCooking]

Yes- except Dynon includes as part of it's package all of what Fast Stack does. So in this type of clean install there's no need for Fast Stack.

[@Cherfield-D-Blessedman]

Thanks for sharing, BTW how much was the budget for Dynon Certified Avionics panel you installed in your Airplane?

[@GlensHangar]

All the pricing and a worksheet are on the Dynon website: www.dynoncertified.com/pdfs/Certified-Price-Sheet-032020.pdf

[@kweathman]

Just curious what did all that cost?

[@GlensHangar]

The full Dynon price breakdown is here: www.dynoncertified.com/pdfs/Price-Sheet-single-web.pdf They also have a downloadable Excel spreadsheet that you can download and work up your own system: www.dynoncertified.com/aml.php#amlpricing

[@honthirty_]

Weight difference, old to new?

[@scavenom2008]

Are this systems certified in Canada? That's definitely not the case for the USA. I went with a simple Dynon D100 and the rest of the steam gages but obviously I would have gone all in with the Skyview system.

[@GlensHangar]

The Dynon system is fully certified in Canada AND the United States. Definitely certified for the USA.

[@GaryMCurran]

I look forward to seeing this when you're done with it. Dynon is probably the best value in glass cockpit right now. Okay, is this going to be a VFR only install or are you going to install an IFR-certified GPS Navigator/Com/Nav system with it? A used Garmin GNS-430 or 530 would go nicely with it. Also, autopilot? Were you going to install one of those with it? I really look forward to seeing this when it's done.

[@GlensHangar]

Initially we’re doing a VFR only panel, with a wiring harness for a future IFR upgrade (when the budget recovers). Autopilot is a maybe way down the line as we figure out what’s certified for this aircraft, but because it’s so old the chances are slim.

[@KorraTransPhoenix]

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[@Pygar2]

Is he related to the Wabbit Slayer? kzbin.info/www/bejne/ip_bno2joJ6crZo

[@Austin.D]

welp see you on the 3rd of December

[@treyschisler]

as someone who's knowledge of avionics consists of this and your other videos, salt this comment to taste. It seems odd to use LiPo as back up batteries, even if they're not power cycling often, I wouldn't have thought their life expectancy would be suitable for aircrafts. I would've expected something like LiFePO4 cells. I'm gonna have to look into this more

[@FowlerAskew]

So I got curious and found a forum thread where someone took one of the packs apart. They aren't actually LiPos, they're regular lithium ion 18650s. Not quite as safe as LiFePO4, but still a lot less volatile than your average LiPo. The packs also have a built in BMS to keep them in line

[@campcookhenry]

I’m baffled, 4 out 895 didn’t like this video, I must have missed something, can’t wait until the next one, I really like your cooking videos, but I really really like this channel

[@johnmirbach2338]

😎✌🖖👍👌😁

[@IsmailNuzaifKokky]

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[@bigliftm]

25000 usd in parts only because there is a scrap of paper with every part.

[@kjdude8765]

Because of what that paper signifies: testing and compliance verification. If you label your plane as experimental you can do whatever you want.