"the editor sucks"

[@Paradoxical8945]

The budget for this video is insane, the intro has like $500 worth of printer ink

[@xddddddddddddd]

new printer moment smh imagine not rigging old printers third world country style

[@Lunethia]

hahahahaha

[@kotovasiya-tv]

Are you kidding? If you have a printer, each colored A4 page would cost you $0.20 max

[@yZiv_]

@@kotovasiya-tv this guy doesn't know that refillable printers exist

[@Lunethia]

@@kotovasiya-tv Yes, he is indeed kidding.

[@autooru6600]

"someone piss me off on reddit, I made a whole bunch updates" is not the opening I expect on a Lazer update video. W devs as always

[@TheDigitalZero]

Redditors are powerful, but hard to get working. You would not believe how capable their spite is.

[@years3333]

it's not spite, it's responding properly to feedback. conflict is not abuse

[@harveyhans]

​@@years3333this

[@squiddu]

​@@years3333okay but the feedback was said in like the most unnecessarily rude way that's more of the thing that probably pissed him off enough to do something because blah blah literally insulting a dev blah blah ignoring said dev's calling out of it

[@DaVince21]

​@@squidduVery true. We can appreciate the devs' professionalism for treating it seriously all the more because of that.

[@Luzi-chan]

>peppy started to play osu daily. >peppy rises up in ranks >peppy takes the throne from mrekk >peppy stopped playing and works on the game again.

[@MultiMinors]

fun fact is, peppy is actually able to do that, he could be #1 any minute with a couple lines of code :D

[@arsenee]

lmao imagine

[@loli42]

🫄

[@grandmonolit4504]

@@MultiMinors on April fools day

[@grass9764]

Now all I need is that osu!lazer is as skinnable as stable

[@mekafinchi]

Now all I need is that skins actually import correcty

[@Threegale]

this please

[@Scroll_UA]

​@@mekafinchiso true

[@nullbtw69]

real

[@Nesquate]

Yes, please do this for future release🙏

[@IVameless]

7:35 peppy gigachad mouse player confirmed

[@RadeonVega64]

fr

[@SeanIsAFatty]

A few years ago he used to come in and create Multiplayer lobbies with the restriction of Mouse Only. Plenty of people would come in from #osu and just vibe out to peppy's song selection. It was good fun back then.

[@Wulk]

Based

[@UmCaraNormalnumPlanetanormal]

thats my GOAT

[@faner255]

MOUSE ONLY CAN ANYTHING

[@Attewir]

Ah yes, the one area I wish they had updated years prior is finally getting some attention! Peppy's osu! skills

[@Enanout]

Lazer updates my beloved

[@efeloteishe4675]

I only love it because of native linux support

[@owencmyk]

LAZER UPDATE!!!! 😺 I was going through lazer update withdrawal

[@EmOhEff10]

Vod frog featured artist when :eyes:

[@owencmyk]

@@EmOhEff10 I'm trying to make it happen lol

[@RadeonVega64]

same

[@huuishuu]

Only thing the editor is missing for me in order to no longer need a Stable install is for beatmap submission to be implemented. Until that's actually implemented, I'm still not going to be using osu!lazer for mapping. Don't get me wrong, the editor changes are fantastic & I love how it's shaping up so far, but the fact that you still need an install of Stable to even submit maps is the reason why I'm still using Stable for all of my mapping needs.

[@shenzhia]

I agree, I made my first baby steps with mapping and was quite disappointed to see that stable is required for submission.

[@OliBomby]

I waited a year for this moment

[@savinterlude]

it's the guy who made osu mania scratch 😮

[@zuccy1017]

bro couldnt wait no more he said FINE imma do it myself

[@Touryouka]

All they need to add now is a built in file explorer for skin editing and I'm switching over. The fact that it isn't in the game yet is a very big deal breaker for me since I'm constantly changing my skin.ini and changing the cursor I'm using in a skin. :P

[@TheDigitalZero]

See if you can get in direct touch with a dev. They love this kind of feedback but usually miss them.

[@StackoTra]

already asked Peppy about this issue, he said lazer will have a feature to allow editing beatmaps and skins like you used to be able to. "why change things?" he said ; "the game has better control of files. For instance, there's no "songs going missing" and "F5 to refresh" at song select due to the new file management. Also it saves 10-30% disk space since beatmaps and skins can all share the same files!" but the main issue with this built-in explorer is that i can't no longer Seeding my beatmaps folder to others, i guess? gotta need a confirmation about this...

[@mfy0108]

@@StackoTra I saw people saying that you actually can with symlinks, but couldn't make it myself as it just basically copied my whole songs folder

[@rincasifutsume]

Also as someone making a skin for both stable and lazer, I find lazer's way of handling files to be a bit tedious since I have to uninstall the skin I want to update and then install the updated .osk file, other than that I have to compress the skin folder as well unlike back in stable I was able to just hit refresh and see my updated skin right away in-game.

[@ampersand64]

YES 100% ! plus, fix the 'importing duplicate skins' thing

[@zeppie_]

Oh my god yes daily challenges! One thing that should definitely be a thing is an archive for what the previous dailies were

[@Stevoisiak]

As an Elite Beat Agents fan, I appreciate the return of Pass/Fail storyboards.

[@OrangeC7]

I didn't even realize storyboards could do that, I think that's actually a really cool feature

[@Stevoisiak]

@@OrangeC7 It's a holdover from the game osu! is based on, Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan, or Elite Beat Agents.

[@Harufloof]

If I may add something. Don't make the bank name just a dropdown. Make it so you can select by turning the mousewheel, while having your cursor anywhere on the column too. As well as having your cursor just on the textfield box for the bank name, and then turning the mousewheel. This would be a nice touch to any dropdown menu element in general.

[@NatiiixLP]

The built-in grid options are crazy useful for all of the OCD-riddled among us who require precise geometric shapes and spacing!

[@randomness4989]

Hi Hi I m one of them 👋

[@Kubalopl]

among us

[@jatoxo]

among us

[@NicNock]

among us i love the internet

[@Savvkey]

change background dim on the pause menu?????

[@KudosK42]

That speed modifier is enticing enough to make me consider playing lazer aaaaaaa (mania player btw)

[@RadeonVega64]

mania gang

[@inv41id]

lazer has a bunch of mods that are great for practicing too, you should try out OD11 (it's hard)

[@finnianniko]

Cool update! Mania got some appreciation too:D. I hope mania lazer editor implements having a keybind for every lane to place objects on instead of using a mouse, in 4K it would be 1 2 3 4 and for higher key so on, similar on how ArrowVortex do it (a stepfile editor).

[@truzko3091]

5:55 constant speed mod would be great in osu mania for the SVs, plsss

[@LMusicTW]

That's why I feels like other skins feels weirdddd, it's because their hit circles are smallerrrrr

[@kirby6548]

I am not a notable mapper by any means, just mapping casually. But with these changes the only thing stopping me from mapping in lazer too is the ability to upload maps to the web directly from lazer

[@yZiv_]

Facts. Facts.

[@Sharlashaskashinkawa]

TY For the update! Seriously, this is one of the most dedicated transparent development projects I've seen! ...... No hitsound option without effect volume 0% when >:)

[@raslei_]

YES

[@Lefafel]

Lazer editor will remain irrelevant to mappers until it allows uploading maps, any editor change that doesn't directly contribute towards that feels like misdirected effort.

[@spaceman_atlas]

i mean yes obviously i know everyone wants submission support but also calling these changes "misdirected effort" seems funny if they take the editor from something "nobody wants to use" (just echoing what people have said) to being "very close to stable's", at least for osu! (again, just echoing others, and not yet talking about mania/taiko/catch those still need work for basic usability)

[@IceNinjaXYZ]

I never really got into mapping in standard so i like how how the lazer one looks but the one thing i desperately need is to be able to choose the new combo color i want to use instead of it always going in order. There are a lot of BPM changes in some maps i want to try mapping and using specific colors for those are a gamechanger.

[@ncnrnx]

Daily challenge sounds really nice!

[@AnimadisticaOrKontinakaro]

Rotated grid is actually crazy, wonder if it will also be ctrl+h/j able to

[@Rh7thmVSRG]

Lazer looking better and better 🙏

[@retiredtravazapper2827]

I play lazer since last year and because i didn't used to play stable the lazer feels better to me, BUT sometimes i want to play some stable and i can't transfer my lazer songs to stable, just the other way around, idk if im dumb or i really just cant

[@volenvolen2990]

I'm not sure if Peppy was the one that did it but bringing Pishi on this channel was the best decision ever

[@scatheil]

Thank you for the speed rate change hot key

[@Iredecent]

mania needs a option that lets you press youre normal mania keys while the songs playing and it will put those notes into the song when u press a specific key. bassically, play the song with no note, press a key and it adds a note to that song, keep going till its done, and make changes later

[@XplosivDS]

Exactly, rough mapping with your input keys!

[@kadoen]

this is known as livemapping, it is possible in other editors and it can produce.. well, not good maps, but memes for sure (see lochie bewhy maps)

[@XplosivDS]

@@kadoen Yeah I don't think I would use this for the final product, more so to get the rough position and specific key use. It would be a lot quicker to do this then adjust than to select each note and length manually

[@realsnezki]

this is already a thing in osu!stable for those who don't know

[@Iredecent]

@@realsnezki i cant really find a way to do that for mania mode charting

[@TFD500Official]

6:43 iirc, I Can Be Your Friend from VeggieTales also does this as well! it’s a really obscure map but it has a really fun SB to look at haha

[@Empika]

when can we upload maps from lazer? i'm kinda tired of updating a map, exporting to stable, taking the .osu file out of the .osz file, dragging that into the map folder in stablem then uploading from there

[@KianFloppa]

we need to get more stable players to switch to lazer its just better

[@Janeru]

WE ARE SO BACK OMFG

[@IzzyIsntReal]

Theyve been regularly releasing updates for literal years now. Please stop with this uncreative comment.

[@inv41id]

@@IzzyIsntReal L + ratio + no one asked + WE ARE SO BACK

[@FabricatedNovA]

so when are you guys going to fix mania star rating

[@cthuluzero8368]

Peppy is cooking rn

[@aochaefothergill7486]

PEPPY WILL SURPASS MREKK SOON

[@tovc]

0:25 The central red line on the timeline was changed to be centered above the editor playfield. In changing the spacing by removing the timeline toggles, this change has regressed I dont know if its intentional, but I don't really see any reason for this change to be reverted. The timeline doesnt necessarily need to be symmetrical, and if anything, would benefit from having more visibility for previous objects

[@JPMRY]

Still waiting for mods to give pp (literally the only thing that will get 90% rather than 2-5% of people on lazer) can’t even play lazer with classic mod (play like stable) without it removing my pp

[@onionsans]

Classic lowers pp because it doesn't take acc for sliders so it's literally easier

[@napsy27]

Stable also uses classic mod by default. Its just that for some reason, classic mod in lazer is still unranked​.

[@JPMRY]

Yea, the mods that make lazer unique aren’t ranked and I can’t play osu the normal way (with classic) so theres 0 point for me to swap to lazer. I get that it’s nice for mappers and tournaments but that’s literally it, theres way more players expecting things from osu than the handful of mappers who keep getting spoiled. They would make lazer submit ranked plays in januari of 2024, that schedule was almost 6 months ago and theres still no new mods ranked for pp. Even if they make them severely underranked pp wise atleast make every mod ranked. You can always make it worth more later on.

[@squiddu]

​​@@JPMRYThe normal way to play osu!lazer is without the classic mod, I'm sorry. It's called that for a reason. On the other thing, I assume they don't do that because what's the point in adding unnecessary calculations to mods people have no interest in using? I assume they gauge what mods to rank based on if they can get enough opinions that they will actually get used. Especially important for the Fun mods, where some of them actively make the gameplay experience comically agonizing

[@JPMRY]

@@squiddu Why add the mods to the game if your not gonna rank them. Also, I was talking about the DT slider like 1.2x and 2x aswell as the Difficulty Adjust mod where people can change AR, CS, OD, HP. As well as the relax mod. As for playing osu the 'normal way'. Lazer is agonizing to play if you want to fc a map compared to stable. You receive less acc and more misses but the pp is the exact same as stable. Also, missing 1 note in a 9000 note map will half ur pp with the current pp system so theres even less reason to play lazer. Theres zero benefits to opening lazer other than having more mods to choose from and those mods are literally all unranked.

[@Sigmamalee..124]

They got rid of the dot.

[@Stwinky]

I’m 🤏 close to maining lazer

[@Tom-di4yi]

lazer is better team↙

[@danieldogadajev1545]

so peppy is mouse player

[@NicNock]

as a person that proudly mains lazer, holy firetruck this update is enormous and the fact there's _even more_ coming, I'm particularly excited about "daily challenges" since I'll get to play new maps while also having more of reason to improve at the game because of the leaderboards (and iirc rewards?) in summary, w update, I am now even more hyped for lazer than I already was edit: hey what the hell is an ASS command? (7:15)

[@yetanotherlinuxuser3185]

Announcement Server iirc

[@NicNock]

thank you linux user

[@Zapphiren]

Will we ever get actual accuracy for osu!mania?

[@yamiru3417]

true, a scoring where every millisecond counts just like etterna would be awesome, would also allow the leaderboards to be more varied i guess, the only issue i am seeing with this though is they most likely have to rework the entire scoring for mania

[@EnderSackboy]

Lazer beatmap editor actually becoming usable? Ive been waiting for this day for so long.

[@akatsukilevi]

Daily Challenge.... Cup of the Day.... WIRTUAL IS COMING

[@Whatnoww]

What's up with Android support? Pixel 8 Pro doesn't get proper 120fps readings for vsync and doesn't increment 2x to 240fps when selecting X2 in the frame rate selector.

[@jatoxo]

Don't think Android is a priority at all for them. There have been big steps in terms of more native-ish touch support, but performance wise I think they are more focusing apple mobile devices. I think if they can fix the Vulkan renderer on Android that could potentially be big improvement, but it's been sitting disabled for a long time now

[@psychoacoustical]

@@jatoxo if they focused on apple they would refresh the testflight link more often. I've been trying daily for around 4-5 months on my iphone without luck.

[@glebsin]

vulkan. please.

[@Londonlolxd]

Lazer broke the hold bodys on many skins pls fix

[@FealtyOrangeJuice]

A tool for smooth slider velocity changes eventually would be INSANEly useful!!!

[@jrtta]

Ok but on a fr note. The osu devs are the symbol of actual good devs that LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. I don't see these cod devs (or even better... TF2 DEVS LMAO) actually doing something for the player base.

[@SweXz]

Please add tutorial mapping at the beginning

[@tomatocat]

qol/player/mapper requested features and complains < daily challanges

[@llemari2241]

A question. Is downloading beatmap packs not a thing anymore in lazer? I rather like the packs than individual downloads. Saved me the hassle of choosing lol.

[@smauguh]

I have a question. I am considering switching to lazer but I have a massive songs folder (a bit over 100Go). How long will take the songs to import to lazer? And will it duplicate them or directly pick in the stable folder?

[@emrep98]

Im happy with the Editor Changes but it 100% still needs work. But im happy we moving forward

[@stormlord620]

Still really sucks I'm sorry. All the keybinds from old editor need to be transferred over. CTRLSHIFT F/R/S are so integral to my workflow its really horrible in lazer at the moment. There's too much going on in the overlay, it needs to be simpler

[@lithium820]

legacy map hitsounds are still fucked because it samples the wrong sampleset 👍👍

[@albancabannes7963]

Hey small question, I left the game for now years, I used to like storyboarding and always felt disappointed in lazer's absence of support for Trigger commands, is that now supported ?

[@juibeat]

I cant wait for daily beatmaps!!!

[@SpartanS117C]

I got this recommended and I don't even play Osu??? Maybe I have to now.

[@iOmegaToxic]

I have 2 suggestions: 1-Skin editor improvement: If I want to make an object appear even when I hide interfaces, I currently have to use the playfield, which has different set points and it is very annoying to put it exacty in a corner (if not impossible) I think you should either be able to change the set point or be able to change each object individually (Include in interface or not). 2-Make an option to have reverbed half time just like how we have nightcore for DT I think we should also have reverbed for HF, I never play HF because the audio quality becomes shit, but if you make it reverb that will no longer be the case. Thanks for reading

[@lrgogo1517]

It's been a while since I played the game. Does (lazer) finally let you submit beatmaps instead of having to export to the old version?

[@basilworshipper]

Kudos to u/pritielvis for giving so much feedback and constructive criticism that made lazer so much better

[@huh0123]

Great you fixed the editor, now fix the awful playlist UI. It’s abhorrent that’s it’s gone this long without a rework. It feels extremely cramped compared to stable.

[@hexunipad9977]

the controls on osu!catch in Lazer for touch screen/android is kinda confusing can we just change the controls, like: Two left and right arrows on the right side of the screen, and a dash button on the left side of the screen It feels weird to use controls now (even though I have a keyboard) I think there's no harm in considering this kind of "control"

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

holy shit the grid customization is SO GOOD

[@synexiasaturnds727yearsago7]

sliderend selection pls

[@inhalecarbon9007]

You should add a feature where you can choose a certain skin to be applied to a certain mode, for example. project shikigami for osu mania, and another skin thats not project shikigami, on another mode, so you dont have to repeated keep switching between skins just to play a specific mode.

[@RelytFTW]

this is ALL I've been waiting for

[@Squirberus]

1:58 holy crap I felt this game was generous. I'm new. I was like 'wow how did that count' now it makes sense.

[@dravyn757theicedragon8]

Can you start leaving the maps you showcase in the video in the video discriptions? some of these maps look fun and also to give credit

[@opposite342]

Mania editor still sucks... jk but still I really think we need a bit of development there (I don't like how it defaults to the lanes being so big personally). Anyway this is still insane. Thanks ppy and the team for improving things so rapidly these past few years.

[@AntiApple4life]

I already use Lazer bc there is no other Linux option. My one frustration is the hashed file system that I can't edit. I want to be able to swap out and even extract the audio from the filesystem, but I can't.

[@Ralph1213GD]

I don't play much of osu but adding a weekly beatmap challenge (just like weekly demons in gd) would be cool, also this update is probably big so kudos to everyone involved!

[@acborgia1344]

This may sound stupid but what if you could give a linear speed and rotation speed to the editor grid for a section of the map? Perhaps even acceleration/deceleration?

[@baotan774]

the osu team is the only gaming developers who will actively call themselves bad

[@catlynya]

tyhanks ruiz "attendant" "pewdiepie" duchamp for making spaceguy "lazer guy" anggry

[@Vento-ts7ry]

The editor updates are a saviour to the lazer editor. Perhabs the most important thing missing is the ability to upload a beatmap. I started doing a beatmap and to post it as a wip, I needed to intentionally install stable just to upload, which is a great downside.

[@Akiorinn]

is there any video of how to make/changes in the Lazer for optimization for low pc? ik this ain't important to y'all but I need some guide cus Lazer client sometimes freeze and sometimes there's a glitched audio too for my pc.

[@halbour]

Nah, you still didn't fix Hebrew text on lazer

[@radiatamusic]

hmmm i wonder, will the daily challenge be a map that's available in multiple difficulties or a single difficulty of a specific map? as a person who only recently got back into playing OSU because at the time i stopped it was impossible to find anything that wasn't a pro-level-player map, it would be nice to be able to participate in that, and if it's a single difficulty they would either have to choose one that's ideal for the top end players, which locks people like me out, or one that will make the top level players not even care that the feature exists.

[@ktoru2655]

Nothing better than coffee and an Osu!Lazer update at 3:00 AM

[@KawaiiNinjaChan]

tbh this countdown should exist everywhere not just auto pilot.

[@foxcoon-ym8nd]

is there any way you guys could make it so that if you have both lazer and normal osu when you download a map from the website it can ether download for both or just osu classic? thanks

[@Kidsbtw]

Lazer mapping.. Using a Large skin like eliminates makes it terrible to map in osu!mania since the editor puts the notes at the centre of the screen for some reason? Being able to move/resize the skins hit position or something While mapping would be very helpfull Not that its that big of an isuue to just use a different skin while mapping, but having to change it back to test maps gets annoying after awhile

[@countdracula7896]

Just curious why Classic mod isn't ranked yet, imo there are lot of players who would play the "better game" but want to have same experience as stable, basically set scores on classic leaderboard using classic mod and earn pp while doing so. (I have seen comments about this elsewhere and also have ppl I know who are waiting for classic to be ranked)

[@logidash]

when nevo's songs compilation will be ranked

[@silvncr]

i'm really glad you make these videos, it really helps me feel like the devs care about the community enough to be transparent.

[@kanari-]

i just want a practice mod that allows you to seek through the map without needing to go through the editor.

[@jessiewp]

the editor has always been one of the things i disliked about lazer, this made it so much better. love the update

[@Tostada_congelado]

Osu is mid till they add hidden mod which can be customized to your liking and can be used in ranked for mania

[@LazyBones1008]

Csr implemetation and rate up pp is what will give you guys more players to lazer :(

[@kurobiay2484]

i hope that they eather let old osu still exist or make lazer lite becouse for now no matter what variant of setting i use the game is unplayeble becouse of lag wich i am aware might be my computer problem

[@670839245]

Will daily challenge be accessible to players of all skill levels? I can only handle 3-star or lower maps

[@furball_vixie]

Will the daily challange streak thingies be only shown in lazer? or will they also be shown on the main site? I think it'd be really cool to see that on the main site aswell

[@mooshiros7053]

2:42 is there a reason youre rotating by 121 and 242 instead of 120 and 240?

[@NUISANCE_ANIMAL]

can y'all add a feature where taiko doesn't drop my inputs when i hit two buttons at the exact same time? thank you

[@oliverttt]

Peppy's about to discover the beauty of pp-farm maps