The End of Star Grift

[@DrunkenCameraBeard]

So it turns out the only thing that was being grifted.. was my heart 😢

[@dustinairola4301]

The real grift was the friends we made along the way.

[@MannyNamiro]

Maybe the real grift was the friends we made along the way.

[@Neo2266.]

Perhaps, the real grift… may have been the gay actor friends we’ve made along the way

[@sirclueless199]

Maybe the real grift was the grift that we grifted along the grift.

[@jesserodgers5625]

Stacker Pentecost from "Pacific Rim": You can always find me in the grift.😂

[@Desregaurd]

Making these into special episodes that come around every every now and then rather than a weekly commitment is a really good idea, since it feels like you'll have much more meat for the occasional episode considering there is a relative lack of enough relevant Star Wars content that interests all hosts. Having it once in a while will also make it more of an event, and while I do enjoy the connection and banter between all three hosts, I think a chunk of people do want more for them to talk about in a structured manner than spending a lot of the episode responding to superchats.

[@baileyalex23]

You think they will actually get back together though? Josh and theory said the same thing on that departing episode.

[@fullnelson4986]

​@@baileyalex23exactly

[@Desregaurd]

@@baileyalex23 Can only wait and see, but from what I can tell, they all get along and have fun, it's just not necessarily what they might have wanted to present these episodes as since these come across as more like chill hang out streams rather than in-depth coverage of Star Wars content. I'm fine with chill hang out streams, but they have to actually be that and a weekly episodic commitment kind of clashes with the kind of hang out streams that you'd get if they were instead just organic spur of the moment things.

[@Neo2266.]

They’ll have so much meat to beat

[@zetterburger]

@@baileyalex23Yes, as long as theory isn’t a baby about it. ​​⁠ They both have more integrity than fake Josh ever had, and have no reason to lie. Go back to when Mauler’s first few appearances on this channel. He was dragging his feet to commit to anything but liked talking with Theory, even dropped in his talks channel to hang out. Would Josh ever do something like that? Hell nah. Despite what people say about Ryan, and his blunt remarks may rub you the wrong way but he won’t lie to your face.

[@justadude3789]

"I feel thin, sort of stretched, like a Long Man in too many streams" MauLer Baggins

[@chriskos7868]

Hahaha

[@mala6238]

😂👌

[@ithewho6603]

As a long time EFAP viewer, I highly appreciate this comment.

[@justadude3789]

@@ithewho6603 some memes will never die

[@HerohammerStudios]

Remember when he said streaming wouldn't take time away from his videos? Lmao

[@rustyshackleford9017]

mauler leaving was inevitable, dude is on every show this side of YT. his tism and ryans gayness will be missed, this was a good crew. on to the next!

[@TheBlackCoyoteGaming]

😂

[@HappinessPunch777]

@@TheBlackCoyoteGaming Let’s get Trump and Sean Strickland on here next!😅

[@phantombigboss8429]

Mauler is leaving yay! I can finally watch the stream. lol

[@deanlute794]

Lol

[@DlaGraphical]

Especially when he’s on FNT any given week. That was him doing 5 podcasts a week

[@Sizzox]

Ironic… Mauler could save others from the short… but not himself.

[@HappinessPunch777]

I was really enjoying Star Grift too. Have a feeling that Disney Star Wars is going to get even worse once The Acolyte drops. SWT is the only Star Wars channel that I still love. The other channels just shill out of their minds for Disney. I’m enjoying The Bad Batch, mostly because of Crosshair, but the great animated content can’t make up for all of the dumpster fire live-action shows and movies. Had a lot of fun watching this podcast!

[@Gundam4]

Indeed

[@mccleandazza4618]

Theory shills for them too .....dosnnt matter how many times he watches new crap he says the next time will be better

[@yabbadabbadoo9299]

Star Grift was hilarious guys. Ryan, Mauler, and Theory was the WWE style triple threat we needed every week piledriving and teabagging Disney into the mat. You guys work really well together and i'm sad to see it won't continue on a weekly basis.

[@drayiii980]

Proof that MauLer is mortal- even Star Grift was beyond his long reach

[@inoffensivename1773]

constructive criticism for theory: When you have 2 pretty popular youtubers devoting their time to do a podcast with you.... its probably not a great look to be buried in your phone half the time not paying attention to what theyre saying. I noticed so many times they had to repeat themselves because you werent paying attention so no wonder they left. It comes off as rude and like you have better things to do so why should they put forth the effort when you arent? Also a lot of the time theyd give in depth responses and youd just be like "oh okay but whatr u gonna do" then move on to the next topic... Gotta give better responses to your co hosts and act like u wanna be there lol

[@europa1111]

Exactly

[@toddstone230]

I mean tbh, you're very on point lol. It seems like he prioritizes his Saber Sites than anything else. When you're on a show, unless you tell your co-hosts beforehand you can't make time or whatever, your primary focus should be on the show that they're taking time away from their busy schedules to be apart of

[@inoffensivename1773]

@@toddstone230 Yeah dude exactly, someone else mentioned this in a superchat and his excuse was that he has employees asking him important questions so hes making them run late if he doesn't respond right away but I feel like he should tell his employees he's unavailable while on stream. CEOs do this all the time when they're in a meeting, they're not gonna be responding to emails and taking phone calls

[@DemonLxck-lz3qn]

Last show died off because they were canceling every week for almost a month straight during the Ashoka show

[@inoffensivename1773]

@@DemonLxck-lz3qn wait you mean nerd theory?

[@super-based2861]

I came here because of Mauler, and then Ryan, and now I'm following and supporting Theory Cheers 🍻

[@harrar8]

Same

[@markusaurelius4015]

Welcome! ❤

[@GarthKnight1884]

Who watches SW Theory without Kinel or Mauler unless they want to buy a lightsaber or wank to Anakin?

[@gunmetalrook432]

same

[@GaigeGrosskreutzsMissingBicep]

Same lol

[@ThePTurtle115]

There’s just not enough content to make for Star Grift. Star Wars is depressing and boring now. So it’s not surprising. Mauler was always interesting to listen to, but he wasn’t invested in Star Wars like the show needed him to be. And I don’t blame him. I think Theory should branch out and hang with Mauler on his podcast. Converse about new topics.

[@europa1111]

A bit true, outside of Star Wars, Theory doesn't seem to keep up to much with nerd culture like these two do so he has basically zero input on any other topics to do with other franchises, which makes for a bit awkward listen at times.

[@ThePTurtle115]

@@europa1111 it was only a week ago, I realized Theory has a channel about dragon ball z. It’s got almost no subs compared to this. He should rebrand as “Theory” and talk about anything.

[@chriskos7868]

Agree, they started repeating themselves because of this. Even nerd theory was like this at times when Star Wars was at its lowest points. If theory really doesn’t care about cancellation like he says, I don’t know why wouldn’t go on shows like drinker’s, FNT, EFAP, etc.

[@amiller1179]

​@europa1111 I agree but I think he's more worried and invested in the theory Sabres site. Which is taking all his time

[@Master_Ordol]

@@europa1111 🎯! It’s far more interesting when they talk about new things but if you really pay attention theory just ends up talking about the same thing lol

[@jolean_cujoh]

Timestamps 0:24 - The End of Star Grift???? / MauLer's busy schedule (1) 10:21 - X-Wing Solo Command 15:34 - The Crow / SW: BF Classic Collection (1) 17:41 - The Acolyte (1) 21:02 - Nick Gillard / Advising MauLer not to watch Rebels 23:11 - 2 Non-SW recommendations / Arcane / Disney SW movies 26:06 - Cody the reconditioned shadow clone / "Would Luke kill Jabba and his men if Han and Leia were killed?" / The new Thrawn trilogies 28:51 - Kingdom of Heaven EFAP / SW: BF Classic Collection (2) / KOTOR Remake 33:35 - Generation Tech & Mike Zeroh / The Acolyte poster 36:52 - MauLer's busy schedule (2) 39:55 - Keep Crumbin', Ryan / I, Jedi audiobook 41:56 - "What's the difference between Omega and Perrito?" 44:46 - Ryan's thoughts on The Walking Dead / Gandalf the White vs Dumbledore (1) / Harry Potter talk 56:56 - Theory on EFAP? / The future of God of War 58:12 - Gandalf the White vs Dumbledore (2) 1:00:25 - Traitor / The Acolyte (2) 1:03:06 - Yoda x Yaddle fanfic (1) 1:05:09 - Why Gandalf didn't use the eagles / Congrats to Nerdrotic for 1 million subs! 1:08:49 - "Thoughts on the EU ditching Force ghosts?" / The Yaira trailer 1:11:22 - SW: BF Classic Collection (3) 1:13:01 - Kristian Harloff 1:15:02 - [!!!] New Star Grift next week / TBB S3 1:16:54 - New TV shows in June 1:18:27 - Filoni setting things up for the OT? 1:20:07 - "One-off appearances for smaller channels?" 1:24:16 - The Prestige 1:26:03 - Aspyr screwing up games / OG dark troopers and the new ones 1:28:25 - SOMA / Theory's eye issues 1:30:46 - Obi-Wan's undercover arc in TCW 1:33:07 - Theory idea: Space Whales mating / DiscussingFilm 1:35:08 - HelloGreedo / MauLer and Ryan's TLJ theater reactions / Thoughts on Endgame 1:40:55 - Sam Witwer 1:43:15 - Palpatine's goal with Anakin / Bix in Andor 1:45:41 - The Wizard and Sorcerer argument / MauLer face reveal / Gandalf the White vs Ahsoka the White 1:47:40 - Documentary series on Nickelodeon and Dan Schneider / MauLer's Theory Saber 1:50:29 - Hulk vs He-Man / Gandalf the White vs Dumbledore (3) 1:54:08 - Savage Oppress vs Shadow the Hedgehog 1:56:22 - The Acolyte (3) / Jason Aaron's SW comics 1:58:52 - "Any filler in Andor?" / Frodo is 'just the hero' ? 2:02:06 - EFAP anniversary / "Thoughts on a Tom Riddle show?" 2:04:48 - "SWT and Ryan on EFAP?" / Jujutsu Kaisen & Cyberpunk Edgerunners 2:06:56 - How the witch king broke Gandalf's staff / Coheed / LotR or the SW OT? 2:09:27 - Vader Ep 2 / DHS and FBI going after gamers 2:11:37 - Diabeto the Massive 2:14:02 - Legacy of the Jedi / Heir to the Empire audiobook 2:16:21 - Reva S1 / A Quinlon Vos movie? 2:20:23 - Ben Shapiro's list 2:23:36 - Yoda x Yaddle fanfic (2) 2:25:50 - "When does Mr. Katarn appear?" 2:27:40 - The Acolyte poster 2:29:46 - How Vader's red saber crystal was made 2:31:58 - Forest Gump / Elden Ring 2:33:34 - TFA's awful premise / The Edgy Trooper in Mando S2 2:35:03 - Skywalker Shadows of Evil / "What's the biggest criticism against your fav SW film?" 2:37:48 - Kick Metal / Gandalf the White vs Dumbledore (4) 2:40:35 - Doc Aphra / Gandalf the White vs Dumbledore (5) 2:43:54 - "Andor doesn't feel like a SW show" 2:45:17 - Books about Qui-Gon / Once Upon a Theory series / Who had a greater task: Luke or Frodo?" 2:50:09 - SW Rouge Squadron / Rian Johnson's previous works / "Can Vader solo the army at the black gate?" 2:52:44 - "What can be done about bad media?" / Customizable hilts on Theory Sabers? / "Any references to the sequels in the D+ shows?" 2:56:35 - The makeup process in Vader Ep 1 2:57:45 - The Myth of Ryan's eyebrows / Fire in The Sky / Moviebob's new Halo video 3:00:31 - Yoda x Yaddle fanfic (3) / "Thoughts on bringing back Mace to fight Vader?" 3:02:59 - The Road to El Dorado / Corran's duel phase lightsaber 3:04:10 - Franchises or IPs to explore content-wise / Sith synthetic lightsaber crystals 3:07:01 - The comic about Jar Jar's father 3:09:20 - "Thoughts on TBB ep 6 & 7?" 3:10:57 - RLM said TFA is better than RotJ? 3:12:37 - How SW species breed 3:14:57 - The letter from Ryan's biggest fan / 3:16:39 - Theory vs MauLer / American History 3:18:59 - RE4R Seperate Ways and Mercs 3:19:51 - "Do better, MauLer!!! Get a real job!!!" 3:23:17 - What crosses the line in SW fantasy? 3:24:25 - Closing

[@HectorLopez0217]

When I saw the title I thought it was clickbait because of debating Anakin in ROTS. Sad to hear the grift ending on a weekly basis but we’ll always have jar jar and Maul have a kid and Yoda Yaddle fanfic

[@Darklighter75]

Maybe Ryan and Mauler got tired of being on a podcast where the third person (host) is barely paying attention? Just a thought...

[@jtpj4245]

Hi Theory, upsetting but you should bring Chris Gore on next. He praises your channel a lot and I found out about your channel through him.

[@dark_magician_sdy]

Yes!

[@kayne8222]

I agree, I've also heard frank mention theory a few times, feel like he'd have a great dynamic with our boy

[@WayStedYou]

I don't know if he has time to do it either since he has his youtube stuff and running film threat he is always going to films for reviews etc

[@jtpj4245]

@@WayStedYou he could probably do it whenever he doesn’t have a premiere to go to. Also he sometimes attends the Nooner and Midnights Edge podcasts while he edits films/videos. I’m sure he can make it happen if Theory pitched the idea well to him.

[@kylo-benshapiro687]

The brightest stars burn the fastest

[@maccajunior]

You can see how much Theory is sad this is ending and i say that says alot about how great the chemistry is with these guys. Was becoming my favourite vid to watch all week :(

[@mccleandazza4618]

Chemistry ??? There is zero chemistry The long awkward pauses when theory sulks when they shit on star wars 😂

[@maccajunior]

@mccleandazza4618 i genuinely enjoy his positive attitude towards the topics while they are more critical of current stuff. While Mauler brings the critism for the art itself, theory brings the passion for it and Ryan points out older books/comics where it was done before but better. I like the dynamic between the three

[@KangaZune]

It’s just awkward at points due to their heavily different opinions on topics. Which I prefer it when the hosts sometimes have a debate.

[@mccleandazza4618]

@briishlad1551 no its awkward cos theory comes out with some hopeful crap that the " next" show will be great and the other 2 struggle to hold in their laughter The show has absolute zero Chemistry

[@KangaZune]

@@mccleandazza4618 Chemistry can be something that is gained over time. If the Grift had continued this issue would of been resolved

[@sithlorddarthbong4959]

Gonna miss my weekly episodes of Star Grift... I'll be looking forward to the special episodes after the final one next week... May the force be with us all through these soon to be dark star griftless times.

[@Blank-jt3nj]

My disappointment is immeasurable, and my Mondays are ruined

[@markusaurelius4015]

A new challenger will approach…

[@coyotebongwater8986]

Saw this coming. 3 hours of quietly skipping though super chats with the occasional banter inbetween wasn’t built to last. Don’t blame Mauler. I think theory would be better off having segments prepared in future Star Wars Mondays. Having personalities like Ryan and mauler just to read super chats is kind of a waste

[@loadedwhenup]

Thank you thought I was the only one who noticed

[@europa1111]

​@@loadedwhenupNope, I guess some of us can read people better but this podcast was kind of an awkward watch at times with how theory would skip through super chats so quick, barely have input on anything, and look half asleep at times, wouldn't surprise me if they got annoyed at that and left because of it.

[@momzwrite]

There's a lot more of this style of comment on the Mooler version of this stream. People over there were super tired of the lack of structure

[@I_Lunaxy_I]

Watching the sc's get farmed was a difficult and pointless watch. First hour actually hearing BB get discussed was the only tolerable thing, rest of it was just bleak trash tbh.

[@DemonLxck-lz3qn]

90% of the stream is dedicated to superchats and those control the whole structure the topic in the title is only talked about usually for like 10 minutes max. Definitely needs a lot more structure but I get it, it’s not really a hit time in Star Wars.

[@mmanzanozr1]

Inevitable, Mauler and Ryan carried the show while Theory worried about his sabres. All Theory adds is " I don't know man, maybe"

[@baileyalex23]

I do feel bad for theory, he just wants some good people to share his stream with and all these other creators have too many commitments elsewhere to stick around. It does make sense though, quality creators have their own channels already established, so it might be hard to find someone with a lot of free time.

[@samwallaceart288]

Maybe if he took part in the conversations

[@edzus100]

@@samwallaceart288 but he cant ... because he is out of touch with pop culture .. 90% of stuff everyone mentions .. Theory turns out hasnt seen ... time after time after time ...

[@samwallaceart288]

@@edzus100 yeah but there's tons of stuff MauLer doesn't know about, he's kinda quiet on some other podcasts and all, but when someone asks him a question or describes a story he hasn't seen to get his honest reaction as an outsider, he actually engages with it and gives opinions on multiple possible executions and contexts where the thing could have pros and cons; he doesn't just leave it at "I don't know"; it's always an "I don't know, BUT IF . . . then this could happen."

[@kid100music3]

​@@edzus100you're right. it does seem like the only pop culture thing theory knows about is star wars and maybe a little marvel and dc.

[@DawnPatrolPMC]

Nooo Ryan-Theory needs to continue

[@melodysdanceoff]

I really enjoy the show. I totally get everyones got stuff going on but i hope you guys can make them a little more regular than just when a show ends. Maybe like once every couple months just as a hang out or something.

[@kingofgames1220]

I was right the real grift was thinking we'd see Mauler talk about clone wars! But seriously Sad to see it become less frequent, but looking forward to future videos from you guys.

[@ancientmaverick13]

I’ll miss the weekly show. You guys have a great dynamic.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

So long as Mauler, Ryan Kinnel ans Star Wars Theory don't leave YT, then i can accept Star Grift ending. Maybe collabs here and there.

[@TheCapedWanderer]

Mauler didn’t even get around to watching Clone Wars 2003! It’s a series of shorts!!! Such a mistake to prioritize Bad Batch, which nobody gives a rat’s ass about.

[@captainDJ87]

He b×tched and moaned every week. Like dude, u have to watch CW before jumping into Bad Batch like that, otherwise it's hard to invest into the characters

[@TheCapedWanderer]

@@captainDJ87 I don’t think he wanted to jump into Bad Batch at all; Theory wanted to cover the current thing and Ryan thought it would be funny. The mistake was not realizing that this show, Star Grift, with its makeup of members-and specifically Mauler’s inexperience with any Clone Wars content while being diehard committed to Star Wars-was a formula that would clearly work best going through that material of the past: one likes it, one hates it, one has yet to learn of it. Perfect setup. That formula doesn’t apply to Bad Batch. They are not suited to current coverage of material that two of them are assuredly not going to enjoy or be interested in. Even if he thought it was bad Mauler would have fun with Clone Wars. He is already invested in many of the characters and broad storyline. The audience would have a blast hearing the three discuss episodes, Mauler would not get burnt out, the show thrives, we dormant Star Wars fans who hate the modern stuff get fresh meta-critico-content served weekly. Alas. Bad Batch.

[@mala6238]

​@@TheCapedWanderer correct. Should've done CW.

[@DarthBreezus]

Clone Wars is trash too!!!

[@mala6238]

@@DarthBreezus wrong

[@High_Key]

Damn...Star Grift was really becoming something special. To be honest, I had a felling Mauler was going to be a temporary addition because I know how busy he is, but I started really warming up to Ryan the past few episodes and hope he can stay on in some capacity. At the very least, I hope you guys can consider continuing Star Grift whenever a new Star Wars show is airing. Like, I bet you all would have way more fun covering Acolyte or Andor S2 over Bad Batch. That being said, it was always a fun time fellas. Appreciate you guys powering through weekly to entertain us all.

[@xXIronSwanXx]

The only thing keeping Star Wars alive was this trio, but I guess we will have to move on 😢

[@DigiMyst]

Can't say I'm surprised at all. With all the podcasts Mauler is involved with, *and* all the editing projects, I knew this wasn't going to last. Still, it's been a fun ride and a nice diversion from the SW sludge that will soon come...

[@PrimRoseVI]

First Nerd Theory now this?! Vader: NOOooOoooOoooOo!! R.I.P 😢

[@jacksonyon5276]

Dang RIP star grift. Totally understandable though. Mauler is a very busy man. Hope yall stay friends tho

[@lostcause78]

Too bad, I think especially Ryan and Theory had fantastic chemistry, hope they will be doing something together in the future.

[@GarthKnight1884]

SW theory pays attention to nobody but we as viewers need to understand he's talking to the Chinese manufacturers while live streaming.

[@phonepunk7888]

Mauler really is the weak link, proven here in a 3 1/2 hour podcast where he talks about how he doesn't have enough time to watch a 30 minute show. Really, if he is that poor at time management it explains everything about his content.

[@nattthen9536]

⁠@@phonepunk7888he has other podcasts and doesn’t only know about star wars, theory dosent consume any media besides star wars

[@lore_shards]

So, Mauler is my favorite youtuber and thats why I've been watching theory stuff lately. I think the criticism of theory being "low energy, on his phone, no chemistry" is bogus. Theory is just a very laid back, sorta matter of fact guy. Maulers quest for perfectionism and thoroughness is unfortunately at odds with his schedule, I get it. You can tell from his first interaction with Theory he really likes the guy and wants to talk about Star Wars. I think the heart was here and seeing two sides of the fandom shake hands has been healthy and peace filled.

[@Sizzox]

I think part of the problem has been that there isn’t that much Star wars to talk about at the moment either. Their other convos are fine but here for example something is just a little off when they talk about Harry Potter or LotR and at least one member is compleatly out of the loop. That’s why I am really all for their plan to keep doing Star grift but only when new big stuff to talk about is released. I think that’s a great compromise.

[@BananaMana69]

Theory literally didnt rewatch the prequels for this. He couldnt put in like 7 hours of work(that isnt even work because its watching Star Wars) into making this episode. He doesn't care enough about the show for MauLer to wanna be on it anymore.

[@keanuneowick8877]

NOOO:( This was my favorite stream ever, the dynamic between these three is so golden. I hope it can come back someday.

[@YikersGrossout]

Damn I really liked this show. It was nice seeing Ryan flex his starwars knowledge and just generally talk a lot more

[@grimly105]

No, this was becoming one of my favorites.

[@BluntBrothersProductions]

I'd always look forward to my weekly "Grift". sad to see the show slow down, I guess some things are too good to last. look forward to the future episodes and all around SWT content

[@Aikurisu]

It's unfortunate we don't have this to look forward to every week, BUT it is fortunate you guys haven't truly disbanded. I'll miss the regular schedule all the same!

[@Marty_Moriarty]

Damn, I'm going to miss this dynamic. Ryan and Mauler are my favorite KZbinrs, Star Grift was my first time listening to SWT. A great mix of introspective nerd takes and humor.

[@brettduncan15]

This show was so funny and it helped me get through Mondays. I’m sad to see Mauler and Ryan go because I was really starting to love the show. Good luck to all of you in the future and thank you for the laughs ❤

[@yeager8342]

damn that sucks, one of the few pods i tuned into

[@PeaceOrUtterDestruction]

Sad to see these end. I think the special episodes will be great. I was only watching Bad Batch to keep up with the podcast so I guess I can give up on it finally.

[@claykeough7898]

Feloni doesn't seem to get it's a galaxy far far away. Lucas' has all his species called something else but feloni has witches, wolves, cats, whales, etc. 🤦

[@star-warsien]

Super bummed with Ryan and Mauler leaving. Was the only podcast/show that I regularly tuned in for. I like the drastic differences between Mauler, Ryan to Theory. What I don't want to see is to have someone like Josh again or Theory had these two other guys on the show for a while, they just kind of agreed with each other on everything and it was so boring. I like the differences, I like how Ryan and Mauler can poke all of these logical holes in Theorys thinking. I just hope going forward he gets someone whos not like Theory.

[@WitchDR94]

I totally agree. I never watched Nerd Theory cause I couldn't stand Josh. Though I would say Arnald was the worst guest host he has had. That guy's only knowledge of Star Wars was from a mobile game. The other two guys were okay at best, but once again they just felt like Disney Star Wars fans like Josh. I liked Mauler before these streams, never cared for Ryan until this show. But this show completely flipped my opinion of him because I had no idea he was this knowledgeable about the EU. I truly think Theory needs to find someone as knowledgeable as Ryan if he continues with a show. If we just get another Josh who is a normie on Star Wars at best, I'll probably tune out again. I also think Theory needs to brush up more on the EU in general, Ryan runs complete circles around him on all things Star Wars. Theory says he's a huge Star Wars fan, but he hasn't even experienced half of the best Star Wars material out there that's been around for decades. He just seems more interested in Disney Canon than the EU content which sucks. As someone who's die-hard EU and hates Disney Wars, I wish someone like Ryan ran a full blown Star Wars KZbin channel talking strictly EU.

[@GarthKnight1884]

This trio could never stand. Ryan knows everything, Mauler knows nothing and Theory has millions of subscribers while paying no attention to anyone who is not Anakin.

[@bananess_]

Having these whenever a new project drops is a good idea

[@gregorylieber8362]

Give me a Theory Video RIGHT NOW that has Dobby giving Kratos the people's elbow... or like a Mic Folley sock puppet thing would be funny too

[@culture_clash]

MauLer is easily one of the best KZbinrs on the platform, dude does entertainment commentary better than almost anyone, and everyone wants to get a piece of that smooth Welsh voice and his insight on their streams, and being the good guy he is, he's a regular on many shows, so that in addition to EFAP and his 12 hour long review videos, I'm not surprised he's just spread himself too thin and has to step back. It's too bad, but it is what it is. Ryan just hates everyone, so I'm surprised he kept it up this long, interacting pleasantly with other people weekly 🤣 He knows his shit with Star Wars, though.

[@Cmdr_Sinclair_B5]

Oh dear!!!! So sad to see Star Grift ending! You guys have great convos and dynamic, for sure. But, being a fan of all 3 of you guys, I do know how busy you all are and can totally understand why it's time to take a step back for now. Looking forward to any and all new streams/vids you guys collaborate on! Thank you for sharing Star Grift with us!

[@patrickthomas2119]

Mauler still hasn’t finished his force awakens multi part series. He needs to start cutting some on efap and all These extra streams to get that done.

[@toddstone230]

It's been how many years now? Lol

[@phantombigboss8429]

cringe

[@benjamingrant5970]

I reckon we'll get it this year. Part of the problem was the unrelenting tidal wave of garbage being released, and he got sidetracked. A year like this with a dearth of releases might be just what he needed to get caught up.

[@patrickthomas2119]

@@benjamingrant5970 that is part of the problem; I also get the impression after listening that Mauler doesn't want to put that much focus into just star wars. Star wars is losing it relevance and people in general are becoming less interested. Star Wars Theory focuses pretty heavily on that one topic and I think Mauler just is not interested in star wars enough to do 3 hours per week just on star wars.

[@HerohammerStudios]

​@@phantombigboss8429 wanna elaborate there, bud?

[@teddy_westside81]

Fun fact, Sam whitwer is a flaming lib. Argued with me on twitter about BLM. Shit was hilarious. He thought it was a good idea for the white libs to kneel before BLM. I’ll pass on him getting more power.

[@dolandarkxgrandayy6953]

Say I'm a white supremacist without saying I'm a white supremacist

[@teddy_westside81]

@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953 that’s hilarious. You can call me whatever you want doesn’t make it true.

[@tyrell7295]

@@dolandarkxgrandayy6953wow so if you don’t kneel for BLM your a whit super mist?! Say I’m a she left wing extremist without saying I’m a sjw left wing extremist

[@Sizzox]

If he makes good Star Wars then I couldn’t care less what he writes on twitter

[@ProfessorChaos56]

If I could pick anyone to replace Mauler and Ryan, it would be Critical Drinker.

[@chriskos7868]

He has even less time and a bigger channel

[@ProfessorChaos56]

@@chriskos7868 That's fair, just saying it would be great.

[@LemonCreature]

A shame the weekly shows are ending, but if things are overwhelming across the board then yeeee, prolly best to chill a bit more even if it is sad a fun little show like this takes a back seat/stops regular meetups. It's nice to know you guys will be doing some episodes from time to time when movies come out or shows end. I think you got a really nice dynamic with one another and the talks are great. Came from MauLer and EFAP's little corner of the KZbins, but am happy to have found some fun new creators here. Am a bit of a silent lurker for the most part, but just felt it was right to leave a little comment considering the topic of the episode. All the effort you guys put into your stuff is always appreciated. As MauLer says, we don't see a lot of things that go on behind the scenes in regards to the work put into content, so to repeat it again, thanks guys. Looking forward to whenever you all meet up again after next week's episode.

[@SgtMcDumper]

2:40:13 LMFAO I thought that said "grifted 5 memberships" hahaha

[@edzus100]

I knew it right from the beginning. +theory should realy ... like ... be in touch with culture and zeitgeist .. he isnt ... he also hasnt seen LOTS of good stuff everyone mentions as references. Theory cant carry a show on his own.

[@evanrose96]

Sad to see it stop being weekly. Hope to see you guys back sooner than later.

[@chriskos7868]

Thanks for showing the fridge letter, Ryan. I’ll miss these streams, the dynamic was awesome!

[@sp1011]

Letter?

[@chriskos7868]

@@sp1011 @3:13:29

[@RiylanCorma]

I don't get disappointed often, but when I do it's because of one of my favorite podcasts ending, kinda.

[@AntonymicallyCorrect]

Never even got Gary on for a stream

[@toddstone230]

I really wanted him present for their Prequels conversation

[@TheCapedWanderer]

@@toddstone230why, he never says anything of substance about them, just heckles and snickers superiorly

[@ICExMikey]

Garys said before he wasnt a fan

[@toddstone230]

@@TheCapedWanderer this would've been the opportunity for proper arguments to be had about them

[@TheCapedWanderer]

@@toddstone230 Fair. I kind of think he has a minor complex around it that would preclude actual argument, but you’re right: if there was ever a place for that to be worked out, this was it.

[@Alendrin]

Is the Acolyte poster in reference to a womans monthly cycle? 3 weeks of happiness then the darkness rises?

[@AstroNerdBoy]

Sad to see this stream end, but glad there will be specials in future.

[@tigerking8165]

I’ll miss her majesty Darth Shaniqua KFC Empress, RIP

[@InfinityAnakin]

The end of an amazing show. Can’t wait to see it come back a few times here and there.

[@GK15000]

Sorry to see the end. Great crew right here! All the best to you guys

[@TheLoos3Goos33]

Well, as a gift for the penultimate grift I'll drop a story theory/idea for Ahsoka season 2 that would allow us to actually explore Sabine's character while delving into Shin Hati as well. For context, I'm not a huge fan of Ahsoka and I thought Sabine was incredibly frustrating in multiple ways. I'm pretty meh on Shin, but mostly because we weren't given much to work with, just some scraps with the hope for something more next season. I want to find a way we can develop both of these characters in a meaningful way, while also adding to the overall story. Now, let me take you take you to a galaxy even farther away than normal where we begin. So, our stranded heroes on both sides (Ahsoka and Sabine, and Baylan and Shin) are making moves. Baylan is exploring the Mortis stuff while Shin is allying herself with those samuraii nomads and planning for revenge. Ahsoka will likely go after Baylan, though I'm a little unsure what they're going to do there after Ray Stephenson's unfortunate passing. Regardless, we're going to be focusing on Shin and Sabine here. Now, we've already had some allusions to Sabine having some potential dark side of the force (Ahsoka's reluctance to teach her, her Mandalorian upbringing and troubled early life) and we're constantly reminded that Ahsoka feels somewhat responsible for Anakin's turn. With Sabine as her padawan struggling with the dark side, we could get some really good conversations between her and Ahsoka about the nature of the force eventually. So, how about we play into that by having Shin lead an assault on the Noti when the two are off exploring. Have them come back to the horrific sight of the slaughtered and burned Noti. This sends Sabine into a rage and she goes off after Shin against Ahsoka's wishes. When she finds them Sabine leans into the revenge and begins mercilessly killing the samuraii nomads without even giving them a chance, showcasing a little bit of the potential for destruction a Mandalorian force user could create. Leading to her and Shin having another duel. Please just hire Nick Gillard or a better choreographer so they can have a really cool fight with Sabine giving into her anger and letting the dark side fuel her fighting style. Sabine begins to wear down Shin with the combo of her lightsaber and other tech as we see Shin getting more and more desperate as she realizes she is losing to this person she hates so much. Sabine is able to force Shin backwards and trip her. Immediately brining her lightsaber down in a killing blow that Shin barely gets her lightsaber up in front of her face in time to block. Shin's lightsaber is horizontal across her eyes and Sabine uses her leverage advantage and rage to push harder. Slowly but surely bring the saber closer to Shin's face till the radiant heat begins to singe her skin and make the beads of sweat on her face sizzle. A part of Sabine enjoys seeing this as the dark side continues to call out to her. She continues to push harder and Shin's eyes begin to burn as the blade is mere millimeters from her skin, the skin crackling and melting till the pain becomes too much and Shin lets out a scream that finally breaks Sabine out of her rage. Causing her to let off just a bit and allow Shin an opening to throw a final desperate, uncontrolled force push with the last of her strength that throws Sabine backwards and leads to her breaking her leg very badly. At this point we could have the two be forced to work together in order survive against the other nomads and wildlife on this dangerous world. Shin is blinded and Sabine is crippled, and the only way they can survive is to work together. From here we can really delve into their characters and see how they react to this situation. Shin being blinded would be an interesting connection to Kanan who'd trained Sabine back in the day. We could have some great conversations between the two as they navigate through the world with Shin needing to rely on Sabine to be her eyes, and Sabine needing to rely on Shin to be able to move. Not saying this is some perfect idea, but I just want to really understand and explore who these characters actually are by putting them in a situation where they have to be vulnerable.

[@richter6699]

Don't cry because it ended. Smile because it was there in the first place.... 😭

[@samwallaceart288]

No I'm happy this failed

[@richter6699]

​@@samwallaceart288That's because your mother did too much crack while carrying you. Hope you recover one day :)

[@ThatAccumulator]

Theory promised mauler this show would be 2hr max and it’s been consistently 3-4hrs so now mauler has to leave. Smh.

[@Krommer1000]

Really enjoyed this show for the time it was around.

[@MJC2289_XboxSeriesX]

@RyanKinel are you able to stay? You have the lore down pat my friend 💯

[@michaeld.uchiha9084]

That Star Wars girl maybe? X Wing also knows Star Wars. PS You dont know why Gandalf is the way he is. Need to read the books and Lord of the Rings Wikis to know why.

[@UncleBernhard]

Why not just do watch parties instead? You could watch The Clone Wars together. Each week, watch one episode together and talk about it while you are watching it. You don't need to prepare for it. Just keep up the bromance and make it fun. This is not rocket science, you know!

[@SempterVII]

Rip, mauler was the best thing to happen to this channel

[@NEXUSATL]

Josh was better

[@deliverymanq7333]

I know there's one more but I'm sad to see my boys go their separate ways. Mauler was the reason I discovered theory now I'm a die hard fan. Love you guys. This was terrific.

[@DavidM_10]

Star Grift is honestly the only stream on KZbin that I watch from start to finish, because you guys all clearly care about Star Wars in your own ways and you're not afraid to voice conflicting opinions, which makes the discussion interesting. Most other streams I watch for five minutes, if that.

[@gavinfreenone6626]

Something I wish more people were willing to do. You can't go into the honest problems with the franchise without being called a bigot or something. You have to tip toe around certain topics to avoid triggering anyone.

[@mccleandazza4618]

Was never gonna last Weird vibe and you could telm ryan and mauler were laughing whenever theory started shilling fir disney

[@Spiritualwarriorrecovery]

Honestly compared to NerdTheory I've barely even listened to Star Grift. 😅

[@thewarrchitect4121]

Do podcasts with Thor Skywalker

[@DemonLxck-lz3qn]

THEORY PLEASE RUNITE THIS CREW FOR ANDOR SEASON 2

[@dieterstraubel3735]

Mhm, such a good trio of talking heads, with so much knowledge and wisdom. Sad day.

[@isaacbrown7936]

thought this podcast would end soon but not this early damn

[@europa1111]

Oh no, we're about to go back to the overly positive Disney shill guests every week, sad day.

[@bc7013]

Easier to take if you actually believed they would be coming back from time to time but I call BS on that. Mauler's reaction to all of that was quite telling.

[@DaNewWaveLee]

Yeah. It’s not good enough for him at the moment.

[@bc7013]

@@DaNewWaveLeeI don't think it is that it's not good enough but rather he doesn't know shit next to Ryan and Theory and is in way over his head. He didn't care from the beginning or he would have watched TCW or CW but never did. I don't find him genuine but Ryan I absolutely love what he brings and have personally learned a lot from him. Theory is such a great human being and is handling this betrayal (from Mauler), which it absolutely is, better than any one I know.

[@jonnywaldis8275]

@bc7013 Remember how this show started, Mauler clearly said he didn't really have the time for another podcast but Theory convinced him eventually to try by limiting it to 2 hours. Time was a problem from the very begining. Since you don't follow Mauler, you'll not be aware that he has been struggling with this issue for a long time now, that his own show, Efap, has been remarkably reduced in run time while there has been an uptick in prerecorded episode releases rather than live streaming or that he has indeed missed some other podcast appearances recently. The man is overstretched, it's a simple fact. Now he could just show up here, half ass it, edit on the side, make promises he can't keep and rake in his superchat percentage or he could tell Theory in the early stages of this cooperation that it simply won't work out. That way everyone knows where they stand and can go on from there. I don't see how cutting ties cleanly is a betrayal. Surely he can't be expected to cancel his previous engagements for this show, now that would be betraying someone.

[@bc7013]

@@jonnywaldis8275It has been 4 months, if it wasn't working than leave 2 months ago. Dude says he will watch something for 4 months and never does. I can't respect that.

[@jonnywaldis8275]

@@bc7013 so you've never made plans that turned out to be too ambitious? Also mauler generally only watches what he is told to watch for the specific episode. He was told to watch bad batch instead of clone wars, so he prioritised that. In any case you are of course free to respect or not respect whatever you like that's your prerogative. However framing Mauler discontinuing the weekly show due to an issue which has been evident to any viewer of his for months, as a "betrayal", is patently ridiculous at the very best.

[@samuelhaupt3217]

This was my favorite stream, sad to see it go. Hope you guys stay true to the promise of reviewing important SW content

[@inpher]

The Eagles would've been killed by the flying Nazgul (or Sauron). Only after the Ring was destroyed, and the Nazgul were killed, the Eagles were able to fly into Mordor.

[@shamussilliker-vz6iz]

Nerd Theory was the best

[@thegreatangel8251]

Gandalf would absolutely smoke the ever living shit out of Dumbledore

[@TheCommando808]

My mondays are ruined

[@ThatAccumulator]

Anakin did sense obiwan with the force that whole arc where obiwan was disguised as a bounty hunter. Especially when he was fighting him.

[@UncleBernhard]

And Marc Bernardin would be a great co-host! He just wrote a Mace Windu comic.

[@Spartan_RL]

Id be happy with maybe once a month. Dont even need to necessarily talk Star Wars 100% of the time. Great dynamic between the three.

[@MrJedabak]

He seems to be really mad at Josh, huh.

[@alisdairhutton]

Ikr I thought they ended on good terms 😆

[@wind_traveler]

This was by far the best Star Wars podcast on the internet. I'm sad its no longer gonna be a regular thing.

[@lizardking89]

Well it was great while it lasted. I really enjoyed listening to you guys talk about SW.

[@kieferroche1995]

I knew this trio was too good to be true .cheers lads .

[@jimkun221]

This puts Monday at the bottom of the days of the week tier list

[@palatialslumlord4938]

If this isn't proof enough that Theory needs to get serious about a solo podcast, I don't know what is.

[@toddstone230]

Wait why?

[@TheBlackCoyoteGaming]

​@@toddstone230 because those two ruined the show

[@Beuwen_The_Dragon]

​@TheBlackCoyoteGaming how? This show was great.

[@chriskos7868]

Or that he branches out and goes on other shows? Open Bar, FNT, EFAP all have rotating guests

[@DaNewWaveLee]

@@TheBlackCoyoteGamingI agree. It had some good parts but probably better spread out. Theory just needs someone else committed to Star Wars.

[@yassver]

Aww actually sad that its ending 😢

[@B_Man99]

I greatly respect mauler for knowing his limit leaving on a good note, I wish the boys the best! I’ll miss the dynamic of you 3 but I’m looking forward to future streams and collabs!!!