The ESCAPE THE FATE Story: Revisiting the Notorious SCENE FEUD (PART 1)

in which i discuss the classic notorious SCENE BEEF between the craig mabbit led escape the fate and the incarcerated ronnie radke... part 2 coming soon!!
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[@thecozyrep]

I'm working on Part 2 right now y'all! Stay tuned :)

[@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631]

Your choice of bands all sound the same. There’s no variety

[@thecozyrep]

@@kikeheebchinkjigaboo6631 you seem to be interested in enough of my videos to leave multiple comments lmao

[@theunfortunat3]

Yasss! The best tea on the music scene i swear!!! I'm looking forward for the next part, this whole storyline it's for like 4 videos tho

[@tamsinwilson1425]

I can't wait! Any updates?

[@MeiZ125]

Looking forward to part 2

[@kristinasmith8108]

“Get ready for part two” Everyone in 2020: “IGHT” 😂😂

[@batterieee]

Kristina Smith literaaaallllyyy

[@jre-1337]

Was gonna come into the comments to ask about this, thanks.

[@fudabi7850]

Lmao

[@rainydaycanadian]

I saw a post that it should be out soon

[@MeliLovesAPurpleDino]

Almost unrecognizable hearing his voice crack and break when he shouts that he can stay clean. Heartbreaking.. at that moment I already know it was a "I'm going to prove you all wrong" moment for him there. Also side note.. no hate towards Max AT ALL this beef has been said and done but the irony of him saying that after he went downhill and had his dealer living in his closet is crazy. Some people really just don't know the effect of their words but I am so glad they are both sober and everyone came together again. It makes me really have hope ❤

[@erinwilliams1197]

I listen to his interview when alternative press interviewed him in jail and at the end of the interview he said I'm writing music and lyrics and there's a storm coming and he was not lying about that because his band is Bigger than ever

[@jenftw55]

The king of cliffhangers.

[@andysixxlett2632]

Easily my favorite band of the scene era!! Killer vocals, top notch songwriting, and actual guitar solos! They had heavy songs, soft songs, and just down right emo night classics! It's incredible to see all the bands that spawned off them, from Carson Allens weird country music, to falling in reverse and Cry Venom, the impact that ETF had is undeniable0

[@Shizl_Gzngahr]

Cry Venom is badass. Jacky is such a talented guitarist.

[@paulwalters5943]

The GREATEST ALBUM of all time.

[@kristinakehrer]

Where is part 2? I need it. This story is hell of a fascinating! Wow. How does it end?

[@yngboy474]

Ronny gets out of prison and starts a new more successful band

[@rainydaycanadian]

Salty CowboyFan while also most likely being the reason for half of ETF’s streams on any platform

[@MeliLovesAPurpleDino]

It officially ended years ago when they all made up. Had a bury the hatchet tour and Ronnie is still sober and is #1 in the scene right now and selling out full arenas and super happy.

[@lucky777tarot8]

king of making part 1s and never finishing them lolol

[@MegaNancyLover]

Lucky777Tarot Part two just released today ;)

[@shelobslair91]

I remember when all of this was going down. Super grateful to have seen Blessthefall twice with Craig.

[@MaRoach7]

Blessing in disguise for Ronnie. He was the driving force for ETF and he actually learned from his experiences. He is a lyrical/musical genius and is more popular than he ever was

[@taniesham6]

I went to Warped Tour 07 and got to see both Escape the Fate and Blessthefall before it all the stuff went down. It was magical! Got to meet both bands that day too.

[@ginos.3296]

Oh man I bet that was an amazing experience. What were they like in person at the time? Have you ever met them again since that show?

[@SkyExplosion]

Think it was more between Max and Ronnie, Craig was just caught in the middle.

[@MakotoKinoSailorJupiter2020]

I think Craig’s role in Ronnie’s rage was jealousy. While Craig was out there doing his thing, Ronnie was sitting in a jail cell.

[@ChristopherJames1993]

​@@MakotoKinoSailorJupiter2020no. It was more that Craig talked shit about Ronnie cause of fake news about why Ronnie was in prison.

[@greenadventureph4335]

no he is the gas

[@ZiggyValentine]

Side note- Craig actually was pissed that The Word Alive replaced him without his knowledge. Said he found out second hand through being locked out from the band’s Myspace page and seeing he was replaced through pictures or something. He then released their first EP without their knowledge in a fit of rage. Glad he did too, TWA’s work with Craig is really good. I don’t got the sources, but I remember hearing or reading it a couple times.

[@elchangux]

He was featured in a podcast i listen to and he stated all this, so its true

[@druidactual]

@@elchangux What was the podcast? I'd love to hear it

[@chrismabbitt7162]

@@druidactual lead singer syndrome is where he tells his full story

[@DoubleDeckerCoffin]

When you flashed the mugshot at "Ronnie's in jail" each time, WITHOUT FAIL I cracked up laughing. It's the little things lol. Your storytelling blows me away, I'm so glad I found your channel, I'm working my way back through the videos. You genuinely care about this era as much as we do!

[@Imulletman12]

I don’t care about the cringe, but “Leave me, go where you belong/Higher heels and lipstick napkins, dying is your latest fashion” is a badass lyric and that melody HITS.

[@ChristopherJames1993]

I swear Situations and Raised By Wolves/Tragic Magic are all bangers cause Ronnie is so good.

[@cocezagirl]

THE FLASH BACKSSSSS !!!! I remember when this happened. it was truly Tea before tea was tea.

[@anthonysouzadealbuquerque4121]

That is the channel i was looking for! High five from Brazil! You got a new subscriber!

[@thecozyrep]

hey thank you so much!!! i appreciate it :)

[@anthonysouzadealbuquerque4121]

@@thecozyrep Youre welcome.

[@nataliebelokin5377]

This is exactly what I needed going through my second high school phase. Keep them coming! Black Veil Brides was my OBSESSION!

[@askingalexsalva]

Dude keep this Going lol watching videos like this it brings me back to the scene days ... the good times lmaoo

[@brinaaline529]

I remember writing to Ronnie when he was in jail when I was like 16 that was a weird moment in my life but I for some reason still have the letters he replied to. Odd

[@energyrabbit9387]

Really?!? That would have been good

[@Obironnkenobi]

I remember 2 members of my band were super into this feud for whatever reason. Our singer was siding with Ronnie, and our drummer was defending Craig. I was just getting super pissed because we couldn't have a practice without them screaming at each other over some BS feud involving 2 completely different bands that we had no ties to whatsoever. Happy to hear that everyone finally patched things up and are pretty good friends now.

[@Ikiya69]

The Cozy Representative: Bringing Myspace era vibe on KZbin, and I hope it will stay for a long time. It makes me feel nostalgic. I can see that you're gonna be the next big "scene" youtuber. I wish you all good luck. I'm leaving this comment here so I can claim that I was here since your "early days of KZbin" in the future.

[@LetsCrashThisParade]

Ronnie yelling "I can stay clean" at the band he was just freshly kicked out of is kind of really sad

[@pikachu3b366m]

I also like the fact that he was true to his words and really did stay clean. Ever since he went to jail he has been sober. Also, him coming back and starting another band which is now even more successful than ETF just shows how fking talented Ronnie is as a musician.

[@LetsCrashThisParade]

@@pikachu3b366m true, I'll take Ronnie and Falling in Reverse over Craig and ETF any day (even though they're both really really good)

[@DCT97]

The way Craig just drags Ronnie through the mud and then they immediately go ripping into their new record is cold as fuck 😂

[@mstephen8040]

Oh my gosh we need a part 2! I'm hooked!

[@RobForg]

And by the way The Cozy Representative I love your content I love what you do and I think one day your channel will be a lot bigger in the near future it definitely has that feel to it and you are very good at talking to your audience.

[@thecozyrep]

hey thank you so much :) i appreciate you!!!

[@RobForg]

@@thecozyrep yeah no problem man

[@CheCheCheree]

It’s interesting learning about the history of a band ive loved since I was 11! I actually saw Falling in Reverse, Escape the Fate, and The World Alive perform on their the drug in me is gold tour this past February. It was an amazing concert! Ronnie, Telle, and Craig are great vocalists and performers

[@VerucaMarie]

When I was little my grandma always said "Chris tells a hell of a story if you can follow her breadcrumbs" you and I are the same in that way. 🥰

[@mizz333]

You said “shadow ridge high school” and I was so taken back lmao that was my high school and I lived right in front of it. Crazy to think about

[@patriciathorpe3150]

Part 2 please! I just saw all three bands in March and am so fascinated about the whole story. Love your work!

[@marcelomusicvlogs9146]

Where's part 2?!?! 💔

[@Sophibear777]

As someone from vegas, hearing him say Decatur like that hurt my soul

[@willferrell30]

man i love this! i havent caught up with this scene for almost 10 years now! your videos are amazing!!!

[@afsanaparvez6112]

Thank you for uploading this vid I Never knew about those clips you showed and that max said that

[@peterrivera4710]

Love your videos man, just feel like getting cozy! Can’t wait for part 2

[@Daniel_Cooley]

Great video but I need to see part 2 man!

[@energyrabbit9387]

You have done your homework! :) i like it, I started to watch this and was worried it maybe incorrect but i noticed from your side notes you watched the ‘bury the hatchet’ video which i foubd mind blowing when i watched it too. Thank u Good stuff 👍🏼

[@mrextion]

We need a part 2

[@natewright1030]

Bro i love the way you do your vids with the in depth conversations about bands. A lot of channels get lazy with it or get the wrong facts. Just stumbled on your channel and gonna check the rest of your vids out and hope to see more vids like this about other bands in the future. Keep up the good work man!

[@123bubbleup]

You’re whole channel is a blessing

[@prodbyzaqq]

This metalcore arc is so confusing im too high for this but every band named in this video is insane. GOATED ERA. metal core da 🐐 no 🧢

[@Culled]

“Extreme thing “is a summer show/fest thing that the radio station X107.5 puts on

[@Kriskraze63]

Awesome video, and spot on with historical accuracy! Just one minor correction: Craig has since admitted to making up the thing about Ronnie getting caught with heroin in prison. Can't remember what interview it was, but I distinctly remember him saying that.

[@RpgCrow]

I'm a fan of the Craig mabbit era. Ungrateful is my favorite etf record

[@lastnameawesome8982]

Fun fact: craig started the word alive, then when all the other members old pal tele was moving back, they wanted him to be in the singer instead so the kicked craig out of the band he started. I think this happened before craig joined escape the fate. All info i gained from a relatively recent interview.

[@gcroller93]

I Didn't knows hannah montanas bro was an emo

[@kotalight4657]

Craig saying 'Fuck off' with the Halo theme growing louder is way too perfect. XD

[@ChristopherJames1993]

Sup Julian. This and part 2 are the best versions of this story. But Ronnie built the house that Craig Mabbitt lives in lol.

[@ryanmitchell8118]

I would die for a tour of the word alive, blessthefall, and escape the fate. Imagine all the guest features during that show

[@rosswell6884]

Your channel is really cool I hope it gains more traction! Please get an upload schedule!

[@NickSibz]

Man, I remember this like it was yesterday. An absolute wild time.

[@jeremycunningham7897]

Only just discovered u recently- loving it. Cheers man!

[@ernandsanchez9259]

We need part 2 now bro! 😤😭

[@abnormalways]

can you do from first to last and taking back sunday and pete wentz? your nsn synopsis CHANGED MY LIFE. something u did with the keywords is helping your visibility and so happy to have found u

[@lauravdb1396]

I remember this like it was yesterday, brings back so many memories! Still love the Dying Is Your Latest Fashion album

[@codyscards6698]

Honestly that album is one of the best from that era. Ronnie has such an iconic voice and that whole album just hit perfect.

[@juandavalos886]

Wow!!! I was at extreme thing when they played the flood for the first time!!! 😭😭😭 the memories!

[@rutilaxchemavenegas3226]

Stil waiting for part 2

[@giacintaah]

pretty bummed you dont have more subs hey- love your channel!

[@Treggify]

I saw the word alive back in 2009 or so and escape the fate happened to be playing the same venue the next night. ETF was already in town so Craig came on stage and sang with them. It was really cool and a once in a life time kinda deal.

[@Nan-ok3di]

Please make part 2 I’m hooked 😭😂

[@jayvance1314]

So glad u came up on my recommended vids. Bro you are going to get HUGE. Great speaker and have a way with connecting us viewers. Eventually you'll make your video quality more professional and get huge! You got a big future brother. Keep it up

[@anavazquez7144]

i really need that part 2, specially now that ronnie radkie streaming is kind of a thing on twitch right now lol make a part 2 please!!

[@andysixxlett2632]

Don’t forget that Escape the Fate and the Crunkcore artist J Bigga we’re both in the same local Las Vegas scene at the same time. I first heard of Escape the Fate from a J Bigga vlog back in 08. J Bigga went out to a lot of their local shows and was friends with Ronald when he was practically homeless.

[@rinlanpikk758]

part 2????

[@pamest5688]

Can’t wait for part 2. Ronnie Radke is one of the best frontman of the scene

[@robincasey1700]

Its a bit messy but i really liked your video dude and the way you spoke its like we are having a chat over a drink and your laying down the facts to me xD

[@halojustin1]

Can’t wait for part 2 hopefully it’s soon

[@Culled]

I’m from Vegas and was in the music scene back in the 2000s. But my band “ Ryu Vs. M. Bison “ was like early early electrocore dance beats with screaming... I remember when escape the fate came out with their first EP I knew they were going to be huge. Really good live. It was like when I was watching the killers play “mr brightside” at skillet cafe in 2003, you could just tell they were going to make it, they were too good

[@MacMac548]

And then Falling In Reverse, Escape the Fate, and The Word Alive all went on tour together... crazy stuff

[@tarankelly]

that was my thought too! i got tickets for that tour, it was really good :)

[@MacMac548]

Taryn Kelly me too, it was the best concert of my life!

[@patriciathorpe3150]

I saw them on the last night of the tour before the show was canceled! Truly amazing!

[@MacMac548]

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[@MacMac548]

Ooohbopbopboppadoohwah type “monsters inc cute” into google images and it’s the first pic

[@bassycounter]

Learned a lot of neat facts from this video, nice work 👍🏻

[@jerrybonsera9885]

Your literally addictive to watch. No homo. Thanks for all of the nostalgia and covering this stuff because no one else is doing these kind of vids so thank you

[@shaebegay3095]

Waiting for Part 2 of this is like waiting for the next New Vegas

[@christianjames2787]

Lemme get uhhhhhhhhh part 2

[@pinkelephantincloset]

please do part 2!

[@pinkelephantincloset]

(please)

[@Milligan777]

"There will be a part 2 soon" 1 year later...

[@unicornsification]

Ironically I recently researched this topic again and I also remember the reason for the fight being that Ronnie was defending Max in a Myspace feud, but I couldn't find ANYTHING referencing it on the internet. On the one hand, I'm glad you also remember it, but I was hoping you had the source haha

[@meep1116]

there is defs a video where ronnie mentions it i think but i cant remember what the interview is

[@cocezagirl]

I remember that too !!

[@bloodeater]

loving your videos dude, thank you

[@blackvixen2]

yaaaasss, come thruuu partt twoooo

[@dethesda]

great work

[@mortifiied3776]

myspace lol . cool vid man love the band

[@sukanyaghosh]

Please please pleaseee release part 2!!!

[@rheaea7155]

great vid, ready for part 2! idk if anyone else pointed this out but, when talking about btf you said craig formed it, he didnt. jared and the other orginal members formed the band and they found craig through a website (im not sure what one though).

[@Zer0sk8er720]

Damn I've been a fan of ETF and Ronnie since way back and watching this brings back so many memories. I remember when that video from extreme thing came out but NEVER realized that was Ronnie yelling from the crowd. That's mind blowing to me lol are you positive that's him? Anyway great video as always!

[@hailiefeltz5340]

This boy does his damn homework 😳 i love it. I love Ronnie and Paige. They're my favorite couple. ☺ I met ETF in I think 07 or 08 at Cains Ballroom in Tulsa. They opened for BFMV

[@AucheysAdventures]

I remember laughing when I heard this band, (which a friend of mine showed me) because they were so different from all the other bands I was told or I thought at the time were “truly heavy” bands But the more I listened to it the more I realized it WAS heavy and mixed other genres I loved over the years

[@picanigeorgello2847]

It's a shame I feel like we wont see part 2 but yknow its ur channel dude

[@livefastordie]

Part 2, please. Greets from México

[@holliepie9306]

Mate I love your videos. Please do more on the crunkcore scene 😍😍

[@natalie_rose2861]

You really should Make a video about the come up of Escape The Fate and falling in reverse

[@wendylynne5010]

Ha!!!! Ronnie, "What bread & Condoms" 🤣🤣🤣🤣 I can't.

[@rollipollirock]

I guess when Craig was on the road in bless the fall he got robbed , ETF was on the tour also and Ronnie gave him some cash to help him out since Craig got his wallet and laptop stolen and had his daughter to support. Don't quote me, I just remembered reading something like that.

[@only.flowers]

Part 2 please

[@thecozyrep]

gotchu!

[@Lo0serx3]

@@thecozyrep where is it?!

[@putridanimal]

Is there still going to be a part 2?

[@stevenwiece19]

Dude I love that deftones shirt :)

[@Crowwrey]

Okay, but I was at that Warped Tour show in Dallas. I was next to a whole group of teens that were chanting “We want Ronnie back”. There were a few other groups cheering stuff, but that was most prominent because of my spot. I noticed a few other people spread out in the crowd looking uncomfortable, me included.

[@isaiahlee2008]

A whole year and still no part two... 😔

[@Mabdog3597]

Talks about blessthefall Plays 'guys like you make us look bad' from ""his last walk" album. My dude. *Edit: The Word Alive with Craig was great. Same with Telle in "In Fear & Faith" and TWA and Ronnie in Falling In Reverse. Craig with ETF in the end. Woo for Pt.2

[@mysteryman8579]

I saw these dudes when Omar was still in and Ronnie the full original line up if they would have stayed together who knows where they would be right now they had unlimited potential

[@pancakeboi6797]

I loved escape the fate and falling in reverse back in high school.

[@Colourcourt]

Sick gain at the start!

[@breezyi1140]

Him wearing a Deftones shirt... we stan