The Evolution of Postmodern Thought | Helen Pluckrose

Helen Pluckrose develops the definition of "Social Justice" as it is used in the academic literature in this tradition, explains its connections to identity politics and the political correctness movement, and then shows the relevance of the original postmodernists to this Theory in some detail. She does this to elegantly describe the progression of these ideas from Theory to activism to the streets by describing how these ideas originated, evolved, and were built upon by successive generations of Theorists leading up to those who have become famous names even outside of the scholarly world today: for examples, Peggy McIntosh, Barbara Applebaum, and Robin DiAngelo. She wraps up by explaining how this newest generation of Theorists simplified the highly abstract ideas of their predecessors and made it far clearer and easier to understand so that it could, as we now see all around us, eventually go mainstream.
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[@timkinney8719]

Her nervousness is so endearing. You can tell she hates public speaking but she powers through like an absolute champ. So much respect for this woman. Great lecture. I'll be on a Pluckrose kick for a while.

[@cjansenATL]

I know Helen gets nervous speaking publicly, but she really is the best at explaining the progression of these ideologies. Not that James or Peter are slouches. 😊

[@aucourant9998]

I agree, she is not a great speaker in the sense that she reads in a rushed and fractured manner which is very difficult to follow. But she is brilliantly knowledgeable in her understanding of Postmodernism and its influence on our world today and is well worth sticking with.

[@ConceptualVision]

Was thinking about her nervousness. She really has nothing to be nervous about, she is clear and precise in her thoughts.

[@kennethalbert4653]

Since this is a place we need not be PC , I can see that she is nervous but she is getting winded because she is morbidly obese. I am coming from a position of empathy.

[@nonfictionone]

give her a couple of years and her presentation will be top notch. Unless she gets cancelled.

[@HC-ji9oe]

@@nonfictionone Hehe.

[@miasantiago4583]

Every now and again someone with this mental acuity comes along to give us a coherent summary of what the heck is going on in society. A mark of a true intellectual. More power Helen Pluckrose!

[@anniebnannie9945]

Well said, your comment ranks equal to her presentation.

[@susanthursdays5008]

I’d like to listen to a recording of this, at .75. LoL- I’m “slow at absorbing verbal info”. But, I’d like to see her do a more recent, interview*, with the right person, of course, as I gain more from a “dialogue”. Perhaps someone who is positioned from a very slight different perspective, but whom can match her academic knowledge and has a probing yet rather agreeable disposition. I do have someone in mind, but am also open-minded. I also must say, her hyper-ventilation does make her difficult to listen to, so perhaps in a “relaxed discussion”, her message could reach more of us. I was distracted by her “anxious breath”, how could anyone not be. I know she is a prolific writer; however, I’d still like to listen to her, in discussion. (*interview, is the wrong term- at beginning of this comment.) So, in meantime I I will continue to search for more commentary from, Pluckrose, because, I was at minimum, able to recognize that she is “most expert” at explaining this critical ideology / reasoning that has become a small but pervasive & powerful “movement”, I believe to be poisoning the condition of our society’s well-being and young minds and, therefore, most be communicated “such that” every person with an elementary-school level diploma, can be “ reached”, and a large majority will be capable of grasping this information, - will be able to receive, understand and process Pluckrose’s message. Is imperative that we reach our youth and our working man, woman and their family’s😢, in hopes of “building a knowledgeable movement”. It is necessary to be able to save our country, and all the Western world. Academics alone, are simply not enough of what it will take to “move” the needle in the best direction for the future of humanity. (IMO)

[@extranolugar4588]

I appreciate Ms. Pluckrose's clarity. I was a university student in the 80's (in the sciences, since that seems germane these days). An acquaintance of mine used to refer to postmodernism as "mind games for morons." I found that funny at the time. I'm not laughing anymore.

[@spectralisation]

Not funny at all, since there're a whole lot of morons in the world.

[@seraeggobutterworth5247]

We referred to it as the intellectual circle-jerk during my university years in the ‘90s. Now everyone’s being dragged into the circle...

[@cord11ful]

@@seraeggobutterworth5247 lol, you could always tell when you'd walked into a room that a 'circle-jerk' class had just vacated. We were left to rearrange the room back out of a circle. Circle jerk is spot on.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

Oh I do hope you're still on good terms with that acquaintance. Their pithy observation is gold. And just like gold, has held its value in 2020. :D

[@tarstarkusz]

She's part of the problem. She is a progressive of 50 years ago. Until everyone can agree "social justice" is rotten to the core and not justice (by definition) and not in any way desirable, things will only continue to get worse. Feminism is bad, full stop. NONE of it is good. Same with race based so-called justice and class so-called justice.

[@danielaquelhas8499]

She is precise, concise, sharp, on point and incredibly knowledgeable. Brilliant !

[@christinecampbell6208]

and morbidly obese

[@steven-tf4bn]

@@christinecampbell6208 What does her weight have anything to do with her speech and analysis? She was absolutely brilliant. You are just plain mean.

[@TheWhitehiker]

watch the obligatory overpraise of women brought with t d politics. dont fall into that trap.

[@expressionofwill5307]

@@TheWhitehiker she's earned it, her Peter and James have done a huge service to the public. They have spent their time learning about this ridiculous philosophy over their individual disciplines to stop it growing stronger. Imagine the more useful things they could have been doing if not for the culture war.

[@rollingplacebo]

Christine Campbell and she doesn’t have to believe in fairies living at the back of her ‘garden’ in order to find the ‘garden’ beautiful

[@percyprickwillow9754]

I wish we had a Helen Pluckrose in every western nation. People like her, with such a mental clarity, are bitterly needed from Madrid to Oslo, and from Los Angeles to Berlin.

[@frepi]

She shouldn't be nervous, her talk is hugely interesting and she masters the topic.

[@windsongshf]

@The Prince of this World Why take a simple supportive comment and put it down?

[@drew7155]

@The Prince of this World not really. OP calls out her nervousness, and compliments the substance. How is that white knighting? You just don't like the substance so you're looking for any angle to dismiss; and it's apparent.

[@AlexanderWoolnough1]

@The Prince of this World hey, it'll get better. Whatever's troubling you will pass. 👊

[@Volkbrecht]

She isn't nervous. She is just out of shape. Expressive speaking requires a bit of extra breath, especially if you don't have a naturally carrying voice. In regular conversations normal people shut up for long enough for that to not matter much, but talk for ten minutes non-stop standing up and you'll notice, even if you have enough wind to keep your voice steady.

[@sarahloffler]

Volkbrecht, (expletive) yourself.

[@robcampbell6700]

I studied postmodernism in University in the 1990s. At that time it was being challenged by the academics I worked with - such as Chris Norris. The Enlightenment, the notion of obective truth, and the importance of reason were all defended - and free speech was sacrosanct. PC was also being challenged. Sadly, it's all gone down hill since then.

[@mimzy8beeps]

That's why I think it might be gen x role to call BS on the meaningless left right paradigms used to divide and to call BS on `perma offended twats` as per Jeremy Pye and all amazing braves like this great group of Helen et all who ran game on secular fundamentalist journals by publishing articles to reveal the farce...

[@Unfunny_Username_389]

I studied philosophy and social theory in the late '90s in a new uni. By and large lecturers were quite small 'c' conservative. I was into Foucault, et al - but it wasn't overly popular with anyone really. Very roughly I'd say that 20% preferred a trad Thompsonian kind of Marxism, 30% had no particular affiliation, 20% were some sort of Weberian strand, and there was a smattering of feminists (who I suppose would be of the second-wave sort of persuasion).

[@faervas1234]

I have been a working artist since the 80's. In my art practice I integrated the process and techniques of postmodernism the subject being because it's about my ideas. When I finally decided to get my degrees and how the writing have nothing to do with artist practice. Only a small patch of the art world that was cherry picked to support the ideology.

[@cdesireb]

Man, that is so depressing.

[@farinati]

I see Helen Pluckrose, I click. Always enlightening!

[@mpete2473]

I’ve never commented on a KZbin video despite 1000s of views but people need to hear this message. Understand the roots of this cancer so we can address it head on.

[@Individual_Lives_Matter]

We saw a pretty awful dry run for these ideas at Evergreen State College in 2017. The kids didn’t even know what they had been imbibing and were so easily turned into an angry mob by these ideas.

[@agabrielrose]

Nonsense.

[@SolidSiren]

Absolutely!

[@SolidSiren]

@And so Are they so lost that they do not see their glaringly obvious biases? Or does it not matter to them? I seek to understand fully their viewpoints, so that I may address them foundationally, and this talk is a start. I need to understand the bigger picture; see both them and myself from a higher plane. I agree this is exactly a cancer. One that seems moral on the surface but once you dig even a bit you find the hypocritical, rotten insides that underlie (underlay?) it.

[@LouisHCampagna]

M Pete -- Amen.

[@frankdrake4477]

As a graduate of Godsmith's University of London; so much this! Took me over 5 years to get out of this way of thinking.

[@subplantant]

Worked there - you have my sympathies and congratulations!

[@RevoltingPeasant123]

Assuming you mean Goldsmith's I was over the road at UAL, left in 2015 so I just about missed the bulk of this crap but have the pleasure of watching it spill into the real world.

[@theyeticlutch3486]

That's terrifying it took you 5 years 😬

[@dogwklr]

What does that uni teach? Never heard of it. I know I could Google it but let's face it, anything I find will have had to pass woke muster and be utter shite

[@p3p3pepe]

What is "this way" of thinking?

[@stevem815]

Helen pluckrose is a star. It's so great to see someone well versed in these topics who isn't in thrall to the ideas and can describe them without getting lost in the endless forests of jargon the post modernists churned out. You have to be pretty smart to be able to boil that sprawling mess down into a coherent overview delivered in a half hour lecture.

[@bmaybee]

This is excellent. The speaker should be incredibly proud of this work.

[@Doutsoldome]

This is infuriating. What she describes, not her. She's awesome.

[@mikekean8344]

That's the whole point of her talk, mate.

[@hanskloss7726]

yes it is. Not sure what I am more pissed off about: the damage to the language, to the rule of law, to public education, to democracy. I wonder how we are going to get over this.

[@faervas1234]

@@hanskloss7726 By not letting them get away with using insults as an argument. The ideology is never meant to solve problems it only meant to find problems even if you have to make it up. The entire purpose is to create and maintain the dialect.

[@vincezito3547]

Unfortunately there is no peaceful way to end it. Maybe when the majority learn what it is

[@nicholasmaniccia1005]

@@vincezito3547 yes there is a peaceful way to resolve this, my friend are you seriously suggesting violence as an only solution? Please take a step back from things and gain perspective, these are important topics but if they are stressing you out they aren't worth your rationale. Others will voice there opinions, this is an important thing but not the only thing and professionals are addressing it.

[@ehall6042]

I'm fairly new to Helen but I just can't get enough. I've watched how she conducts herself on Twitter with such grace and she's been inspirational in the way she responds to some truly antagonistic, hostile people. Universal liberalism could not hope for a better example or advocate right now. Love her.

[@macclift9956]

People who live sheltered lives often believe in a *universal* utopia, and who can blame them really; a sheltered life tends to keep one completely out of touch with the blood, sh*t and gore real world! The best education for anyone afflicted by this type of ignorance is to move to a country with a low average IQ. A low IQ, especially a low average IQ, comes with *a laundry list of negative traits* it inflicts on society, and, for those who don't know, right at the top of the list, in terms of its negative impact, is an increase in violence and predatory aggression; countries listed as have a low average IQ often have staggeringly high violent crime statistics! There is also the "higher than average" fecundity rate to consider (one just has to check the size of those populations); a higher than average fecundity rate that, at the stroke of a cross on a ballot paper, can turn a democracy into a blood-soaked tyranny of the masses "democracy."

[@kimmogensen4888]

Ms Becky more of Helen, she has helped to reveal fake science heterodoxacademy.org/academic-grievance-studies/

[@Adrian101882]

Delta Fox your cat missed Cuba, but that’s forgivable, as I have a strong inclination your cat and I would get along swimmingly

[@iangoddard5915]

She's absolutely brilliant!

[@seraeggobutterworth5247]

@Ian Goddard Are you referring to Helen or @Delta Fox’s cat??

[@openhueblue6661]

I have such admiration for this women. She's so eloquent.

[@peterford5408]

Yes, but a bit of free advice: Remember to be constantly on your guard when deploying the E-word. (25:51)

[@SvartVargSkog]

she literally READS from notes. "is so eloquent"..... wow, the times we live in

[@seraeggobutterworth5247]

@ReichsfuehrerSS Do you imagine her notes appeared from thin air? She’s reading her own writing, which is exceptionally good-eloquent, in fact.

[@Rope257]

Check the compliments my dude. It's the first step towards rape after all.

[@mellowfellow6816]

I see what you did there

[@juvenalsdad4175]

Many thanks to Drs. Pluckrose, Lindsay and Boghossian for their invaluable insights. They have helped me to understand 'Wokish', and I have even managed to reveal some tricks of the critical theory trade to friends who had previously thought words meant what one expected them to. So far none of them have called me a racist and burst into tears, so there is hope yet.

[@mortalkomment8028]

What an excellent speech, dear Helen! You're a grandmaster of social analysis and theorizing. Thank you so much for your work!

[@Kiutsuki]

I never knew such complex ideas underlying everything what's going on could be addressed on such concise and coherent terms in just 35 minutes without losing any of the intellectual requirements to accomplish so. Truly genius, congratulations! I'm speechless!

[@leddywood]

Brilliant talk. As a frustrated liberal it's great to finally hear some sense making being brought to bear on this ridiculous and surreal situation. With luck your bravery, intelligence and compassion will allow more grown ups back into the room and encourage more humanitarian and useful solutions to be discussed.

[@anniebnannie9945]

As a person trying to figure out what the heck is going on, I appreciate your comments. Keep up the great work.

[@AntonDoesMusic]

I've been following this discussion among academics regarding post-modernist philosophy for about 4 years now, and it is absolutely terrifying how much it caught fire among my friends on Facebook since George Floyd was murdered. I have one friend who has the audiobook of "White Fragility" and posts like, 5 quotes a day from it, and everything she posts is absolutely pathological and anti-individualistic.

[@gabriele5719]

“She”...why I’m not surprised?

[@brittanydawn2633]

@@gabriele5719 plenty of us women are against this. Most of us are called misogynistic names by male Postmodernists and told to be kind to them by female Postmodernists. The funny thing is, all they're doing is entrenching racial and sexist group think whilst claiming to do the opposite.

[@theyeticlutch3486]

Cult ideology.. good luck trying to get through to them

[@ishmael_03]

The woman who wrote that book is fucking evil.

[@zirdo4390]

hive mind thinking is a disease inflicted upon the free! Unlike free harmonious agreement which elevate the whole of society, hive mind is forced and free thinking is forbidden

[@foreignparticle1320]

I love Helen. She is always clear and succinct, and explains academic jargon really well.

[@JohnSmith-ch9sm]

This is, by far, the best explanation of the current postmodern thought that we have.

[@ricksimmons9054]

What a wonderful breakdown of how we got to where we are.

[@richardhewit215]

I'm more interested in how we get out of it.

[@emmasa9974]

Culture of Critique by Kevin Macdonald is a must read.

[@DJ_Kie]

@@richardhewit215 Maybe im.an optimist but I think cracks are starting show. When you bandy around simplistic ideology to try and make complex policy it should fold like a house of cards. People dont want conflict. These ideas seem to be reaching conflict critical mass. But im terrified of the next wave. Might not beat it next time.

[@henrykkaufman1488]

It will either fizzle out or break something (or many things at once) very important and we will have cultural/societal collapse. Right now it looks like it's gonna break USA.

[@Sedgewise47]

Henryk Kaufman 🤔...Well, y’know-while a dead thing goes with the flow, a living thing can swim against it. 🤨 And there are [*still*] a LOT of _living_ Americans (if you know what I mean)...😉

[@PJVerh0ef]

This is an absolute gem and long overdue academic review of the entangled postmodernism and social justice activist critical theories. Sharing the crap out of this!!

[@dawnemile7499]

“A towering mountain of theories” is an excellent phrase.

[@de4ths0n]

Helen you are such a brilliant woman!

[@lutherkoch421]

This is a magnificent synopsis! Thank you Helen Pluckrose! I have not encountered a keener, more eloquent rendering of the roots of many problems in academics and in contemporary western political and civil discourse. Please keep speaking!

[@thisNewFoundLand]

...living in Japan, i easily constructed something of a bubble whereby hockey streams, concert videos on KZbin, and speeches/audiobooks filled my need for media content. Hours go by in my humble music studio: days to months to years -- a certain apathy to today's world was welcomed; and so the rise of 'social justice' would occasionally ping on my radar, but i genuinely had no idea that the social climate had become so volatile and toxic. Covid and lockdown (though no lockdown at all in Japan) easily changed that -- and coupled with the murder of George Floyd, it was clear that society was unquestionably going off the rails. All that to say, this speaker is amazing. Simply one of the best introductions to a talk i have ever heard. Obviously, i am already in the choir somewhat, but Pluckwell's precision in wordcraft and prowess in analytical deconstruction puts her on a very lofty peak, imho. And i have yet to hear her conclusion! -- but her impact was such that i was compelled to pause and comment in total support, and with something akin to shocked awe. i will seek out more of her musings. Hopefully, for the sake of the collective, the ripples of her great voice will grow both stronger and wider. Speak up, people. Humans are harmonious by nature, else we would not have united in the first place.

[@KopperNeoman]

The death of George Floyd* He was not murdered. A conviction by jury nullification is not a just conviction.

[@badgerlife9541]

The amount of research that Mrs. Pluckrose has done on this topic is just astounding. What an incredible woman, and what an incredible intellect she has. I find myself understanding all these connections, but would have never been able to connect the dots myself.

[@Autuxm]

This is the best description of post-modernism Ive heard. Its both easy to understand but at the same time very detailed and in-depth. Perfect!

[@natedoherty3462]

I think Helen is a good person for our times. She's the person that is behind James. Not in the limelight. Which is a real and respectable role. She's a witty, smart, and very freedom loving individual. She comes across as low key. Which has its wisdom. Helen is great. Bless her. Hope she keeps on keeping on. Good for her. Well deserved

[@1caitsith]

Helen is an amazingly lucid writer and speaker. This lecture summarized the intellectual movements for me in a way I have not previously encountered. Thanks!

[@Thomas-dw1nb]

I consider myself conservative and have become increasingly so (almost reactionary) in response to postmodern theories. This is in large part because not only has liberalism refused to address postmodernism, it seems to have increasingly given way to it thus giving the impression that liberalism is dying if it's not already dead. I found this talk intriguing and will be looking for more from Helen.

[@aradipe]

I think this is because liberalism was largely successful in the West. The reason why postmodernists are allowed to speak their beliefs and the reason why we're free to challenge them. Unfortunately I don't think liberalism itself is able to address the issue of these ideas infiltrating all aspects of our lives (academic, corporate, cultural), since it would go against freedom of speech.

[@milostone6498]

I had a ringing clarity on this speech. "The Liberal left has been calling for help these last few years. They are flooded with this movement just like us on the right" I thought. "Right wing really needs to make a sensible stance and hold the line here" me thinks. . . We shall see

[@gwho]

what on earth do you mean liberalism refused to address postmodernism?

[@pierrelabounty9917]

@@milostone6498 looks like explosions everywhere, maybe then someone can deconstruct sand.

[@jamesbarlow6423]

I think Nietzsche adequately forecast the eventual death of liberalism in the west, right around 1880, no....?

[@juliecurwin4716]

Helen Pluckrose is my new hero. Keep up the fight, Helen, you do it better than anyone.

[@zombiechaddy]

THANK YOU!!! This is the most distilled yet comprehensive explanation I've heard that explains SO MUCH of the craziness we're seeing today. I'll be sharing this as much as I can

[@Doutsoldome]

Agreed!

[@vikkiplacebo2743]

It's garbage, I'm sorry. It's not accurate and not good. Helen is extremely biased and also has a bad understanding of 'Postmodern' ideas. Please do not expect to understand hundreds of years of philosophy from a short and angry KZbin video. These are ideas that can't be distilled so easily. And again, Helen doesn't get them, and doesn't really want to get them. She wants to be angry and to convince you to be angry and scared.

[@cdesireb]

@@vikkiplacebo2743 You must have watched a SJW video, where the people are always angry, lol. Helen was very matter-of-fact and made logical arguments throughout. But you couldn't point out a single false premise and build a coherent counterargument against it, so you attacked her character. Tool.

[@vikkiplacebo2743]

​@@cdesireb AAACTUALLY. No. People like you have attacked my character. And you use obviously-dumbass pejoratives like 'SJW'. You don't know WTF you are talking about. Neither does Helen. You just want to invent some VAST conspiracy using information that you have ZERO idea of, that you've spent ZERO time actually studying. Also, you don't know what my political/etc. stance actually even is. I don't get my education/information from short KZbin vids, thank you very much. It's called reading actual books, and then more books that talk about those books. For YEARS. You are a lazy fool that needs someone that SOUNDS like they have a brain to give you some kind of ammunition. But, it's all BS. You don't know WTF you are talking about, none of you do. And you never will, because you just want to get random nonsense off the internet to support your snowflake feelings. But yeah you're all right -- the post-structuralists also helped to invent COVID, of course (it's just matter of time until y'all spin that conspiracy).

[@CNS946]

@@vikkiplacebo2743 do you understand what she is talking about

[@stanlibuda96]

Thank you so much, Helen! I got acquainted with postmodernism in the mideighties when I was studying psychology and philosophie in (West-)Berlin. I saw it withering away and I saw its rebirth after the fall of the wall and the Soviet Union. In Germany it has merged with "the left", which consists of three parties and a lot of independent groups. Oh, and the media is infected too. So nothing new from here. Thanks to you, Peter and James for the unbelievable work you have done. You are really courageous. Your Grievance Studies was a dream come true for many.

[@agabrielrose]

Trash.

[@agabrielrose]

@snowy the snowman This is such garbage. Have you ever even been inside a university?

[@DonBelial]

I see your dogwhistling there: Stan Libuda was a right winger! . Joking aside: You're right. We're at a critical point in Germany as this ideology has already infiltrated school didactics. The Sokal² is a critical point in the discussion of how to proceed

[@JackHaveman52]

@@agabrielrose Does one have to actually be submerged in boiling water to know that one doesn't want to be there? I'm not saying that university is intrinsically bad. What I'm saying is that the universities are infested with the ideologies of post modernism, grievance studies and critical theory. Helen Pluckrose is in the universities and she's seen it first hand. Are you calling her a liar?

[@agabrielrose]

@@JackHaveman52 Not a liar, but an exaggerator. I went to a school famous for SJW stuff, and yeah there's a small problem with certain departments and actors doing less than rigorous work to generate an artificial paper trail for political activists to refer to - but her's and Lindsay's methods are trash and will backfire.

[@pedroorpheus]

Very impressive. Clear, precise, comprehensive and accessible. No arrogance or redundancy whatsoever. Please look after yourself Ms Pluckrose, and keep helping out.

[@Qazplmwsxokn]

This is the Pinnacle of courage; feeling the fear, but doing the right thing despite it!

[@AidenRKrone]

The way Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay are able to explain the connections between critical theory, postmodernism, and cultural Marxism in an easily understandable way is nothing short of incredible.

[@jamesstreak]

At the end of Helens talk she mentions "...In my talk this afternoon I'm going to suggest that.." Is THAT talk available? This is the clearest distillation I have heard. Amazing

[@mala235813]

Very informative. She explained what I've felt for a long time have been happening. Where I live, in Sweden, the state media is pushing these post modernist ideas, and more and more people are sick of it.

[@calum9124]

May I ask how are they pushing it?

[@blackquiver]

I new it. I new I was right. ..👍👍

[@Jianju69]

Ms. Pluckrose, you explained this with flow & clarity. Bravo!

[@josuecallejero9864]

We NEED to hear Helen's afternoon talk. To fight against this anti-racism nonsense, we need thoughtful ideas and actions based in liberal principles.

[@tommytigerpants]

She is brilliant and I am throughly thankful for her work!

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[@kityfitz]

A total joy. I could listen to Helen Pluckrose all day. So much sense and invaluable information to bestow.

[@cdesireb]

This talk is desperately needed in 2020. It should be required viewing for all college students during these highly politicized times.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

I appreciate Ms Pluckrose making a concerted effort almost every time it's relevant to a discussion to differentiate between American, Australian and British definitions of terms like 'liberal' and 'conservative' etc. No offense intended to my cousins across the pond, but Americans are generally a most parochial, self-referential, insular bunch of humans who could do with being helped to understand more about the world outside of their own cultural experience. Thanks Helen, and thanks New Discourses for these uploads.

[@david-hp9hk]

To be fair Australians have no idea what we mean by liberal without explaining whether it has a capital letter. Americans are right to be confused.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

@@david-hp9hk And Australia's definition of 'republican' has NOTHING to do with America's version of that term. They're totally different things. How would my Yank cousins possibly know about all this if people from around the world refuse to talk with more confidence in their national parlance, using their own cultural reference points etc? Instead so many self-censor and voluntarily subsume into Americanisms-a-go-go? That's such a disservice and an embarrassing way to weaken your own country and culture on the global stage. 🤝

[@Codestud]

This is an excellent talk. Helen is the first person I've come across that has explained postmodernism to me in a way that I've been able to get my head around it.

[@timberrr1126]

See Postmodern video by Daniel Bonevac.

[@Ndecline]

Thank God for this woman. I don't blame her nervousness and applaud her strength. The words are necessary. Thank you.

[@JC-tn7ow]

The world owes you a debt of gratitude, Helen. Your voice of reason should be blasted on the airwaves, through every corridor of academia.

[@Because_Reasons]

Helen, thank you so much for doing this work. You're an incredibly important contributor to Society

[@peterstephenson9538]

A great speech. Poor lady is obviously nervous, but she had every reason to deliver her excellent text with total confidence.

[@cord11ful]

Helen Pluckrose is such a voice of intelligence and sanity! She'd be fun to hang out with too I suspect, unlike the tedious 'woke' crowd. Subscribed.

[@Caligulove]

I always forget just how brilliant Helen is until I listen to her speak again.

[@derekketcher9154]

Everytime she takes a drink it's like the biggest cliff hanger.

[@nowwhat1434]

😂😂

[@misterocasey]

Thank you, Helen. In the wake of the "cancel culture" letter fiasco, your voice is sorely needed. This mind disease is rampant in modern media. From the Daily Beast to the New York Times, the ideology has a loud, angry, and mentally unwell megaphone.

[@BB-zi5wi]

I feel like i need to pause every 10 seconds to process the avalanche of information. Thank You Helen & James! ❤

[@sarahwilson7808]

Absolutely outstanding. Thank you Helen.

[@dorwood73]

Well done Helen. You crammed a lot into half an hour, I need to listen again.

[@TheWhitehiker]

the best lack all conviction while the worst are filled with passionate intensity. --Yeats

[@justinmartinez1]

*passionate intensity

[@TheWhitehiker]

@@justinmartinez1 thanks, justin--my mistake.

[@50srefugee]

"The center cannot hold." It's a brilliant poem.

[@TheRagdollrejects]

He really did just yeet that out there didn’t he... I’ll get my coat.

[@thegreatbambino3358]

I usually listen to James Lindsey, but this is very succinct and nicer than a 3 hour james session

[@faulknerreview7866]

Excellent, thank you so much Helen.

[@mikesekula3949]

Sunlight as antiseptic. Outstanding!

[@brocabe]

And here I thought I had a grasp on post modernism! This is a truly great quick breakdown of post modern thought.

[@zjg3913]

Brilliant woman. You’ll learn from her in 30 minutes taking notes than most collegiate courses, over three months. Excellent talk.

[@littledarkcollege]

As someone who considers himself a Liberal, as per her definition, although would in today's landscape perhaps be considered 'centre-right', i have searched/kept an ear out for someone who can explain to me exactly what's going on in the extreme left. Finally, i have discovered that voice. Pluckrose is able to break it down the left and given me a renewed sense of energy when trying to understand exactly what's going on in that side of politics. Thanks, this video is incredibly important :)

[@xaviereloquin4784]

I totally agree. I feel like I have found a home. And a way to make sense of the world as it is now.

[@gregoryian123]

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[@gregoryian123]

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[@ericgwalsh]

Her book is released in August 2020.

[@ds_7]

KZbin demonetised this video, and confirmed that demonetisation under manual review. WTF.

[@hegemonycricket2182]

I have come back to watch this multiple times. This is absolutely essential to absorb where this destabilization effort comes from, how it has evolved, and to have the knowledge to fight back. Talk about this with your friends, although it may be painful, it is clearly a necessity. The ship has hit the iceberg.

[@gazsibb]

Thank you world for bringing into being Helen Pluckrose! Such rational clear thinking. 👍

[@m.davidmccormick7062]

She needs to keep writing and speaking. Absolute QUEEN.

[@blahblahblahblah2837]

@0 Introduction - problems with current postmodernist culture @5:20 - The Modern era @7:15 - The birth of Postmodernity @11:30 - Foundations of Postmodern theory @15:30 - Summary of Postmodernist ideas @19:30 - Social Justice is a postmodern movement @23:26 - The New Postmodernism: evolving and unhinging ideas @31:00 - The New Postmodernist manifesto @33:00 - Summary and conclusions

[@Muonium1]

This is the clearest, most comprehensive, and most concise identification of the problem that I've ever heard. And I've been listening to this stuff since the "atheism plus" days.....euuuggh, shudder .

[@777Looper]

What were the “atheism plus” days? I must have missed that.

[@Plainsburner]

@@777Looper It was the infiltration of social justice into the atheist community. Atheists began to call people racist or islamophobic instead of being critical of religion. It became normal that Christianity was the only religion you were allowed to be critical of.

[@ebeuille]

Dear Helen, it is such a pleasure to listen to you. Thank you 🙏🏼 👏👏👏

[@andrewseymour5541]

Helen, I actually experienced the clearest example of woke bigotry I’ve ever seen in my life last night. What started as a conversation about our personal trials and tribulations evolved into a discussing about the polarity of the US politics. When I brought up the universality of bigoted thought, he accused me of being a Trump supporter. I voted for Obama and Hilary. Didn’t vote for Biden, but I wasn’t registered and didn’t care by the point that election rolled around. My friend went so far as to question our friendship, accusing me of having bought into Fox News talking points. All because I started asking questions about common traits between those we think are evil and ourselves. I asked him how to root out bad people in his party. By what criteria. This was textbook tribalism and party-line bigotry in as elegantly as if it was planned. It is exactly the reaction the left simultaneously denies having and ironically displays through histrionic hyperbole. This is real. I thought I was perhaps I was affected by the algorithm sending me stories about this pathological behavior, but it’s true. He made my case for me. He demonstrated he can’t see nuance, this from the party claiming to want diversity and equity. I would love to talk to you about this. This is unreal.

[@kristianmarinov8851]

Her analysis is absolutely brilliant. I thank you for these well articulated insights, which are free (As much as they can be) from ideological bias by both the left and the right.

[@juancristi376]

Great video! You need to reach more people. Understanding the problem is the only way to solve it. Thanks Helen!

[@Butcho22]

33:14 - 34:05 Gives me hope. We need everyone to push back!

[@DP-cd5wr]

Helen you are an intellectual great! How is it the first time I am hearing from this brilliantly articulate woman. One of the best run downs on the matter I have heard. Jordan Peterson watch out! Can tell the nerves are there, but literally no need when your content is of this calibre. Brilliant!

[@mattcalderaz9078]

Would love to see the follow up talk she mentions at the end of this!

[@ZimbaZumba]

This is a truly exceptional speech and analysis.

[@ian_b]

Helen, if you read this, I just want to say you sound quite nervous and you shouldn't be; you are a fine thinker and communicator. This is an excellent lecture full of rational analysis.

[@Stormfox93]

Helen Pluckrose couldn't have formulated it better. Great lecture!

[@TheXanadu88]

Beautifully, clearly articulated, and very well reasoned. I enjoyed this talk very much...

[@Katie-tb2cn]

You are so adorable and fierce. Helen you are the bee's knees!

[@stuartdriedger9989]

infantalizing a grown adult speaking about the current dystopia 👏🏽

[@C.D.J.Burton]

She chooses words with such precision. Almost poetic. One of the most educated people on the topic

[@ffemt66]

Anyone trying to take moral high ground by stating the right insults or uses ad hominem should be directed to Devin Nunes, Candace Owens, or Helen Pluckrose twitter threads. God bless Helen keep up your phenomenally influential work!

[@erben73]

Thanks for this very clear overview.

[@johncitizen3227]

🙌🙏 more Helen please. Her depth of knowledge on this is fascinating.

[@cjpapasito]

Great stuff-Pluckrose’s work is immensely helpful and courageous.

[@QUAKACE]

Brilliant breakdown, criminally underviewed

[@carbon1479]

17:05 - I'm just going to say it - ideas that there is no objective truth or that human beings are all blank slates, this has only thrived through obscurity and being buried in jargon that only Heideggerians could parse. Once you clear the firewall you get to where these core ideas - like no objective reality or blank-slatism - are demonstrably / verifiably false. This means that postmodernism, while it can be a very powerful tool for examining old ideas and fishing out or removing mistakes that we've made in our sciences and culture just by contingency or accident of history, who was in power at what time, etc., it can also reinvent mistakes that we've already cleared if it isn't carefully watched and part of the problem here - plenty of those mistakes have a lot of game-theorhetic utility which makes them extremely catchy at the social level.

[@rayF4rio]

Excellent talk. We need more academics like thus speaking out.

[@RYCOPZ]

What a talk. She managed to address both individual concepts as well as the relationships between them with a level of accuracy, insight, comprehensibility in a way I haven't seen anyone else pull off as elegantly.

[@heavyj2134]

Truly one of the heroes of our time! Thank you Helen!

[@diarmidbaillie]

What a brilliant talk. I'm eager to hear the second part. Is it coming?

[@Thomas-dw1nb]

I'm eager to hear it, myself.

[@taylorassswift6620]

yeah, right? where's the 2nd part?? i'd like to hear her solutions!

[@rikcoach1]

Taylor ass Swift The solution is underway. See, Sam Harris, Bret Weinstein, Heather Hying, Eric Weinstein, Benjamin Boyce, Jordan Peterson, and many others. They are doing the work. Join us

[@cameronmclennan942]

Rick Wieland Yes this is my favourite Sam Harris video kzbin.info/www/bejne/ranEnaWthbOehKs

[@SpinachBob]

Did anyone find part 2 anywhere ?

[@Pew7070]

Beautifully simple yet eloquent expose on the traps of postmodernist thought and it’s progenies! Thank you! And I’m so glad I can make these remarks now, because in 20 years I’ll be hung for them. The wheel always turns and lately quite fast. 🙃

[@tamashumi7961]

I've seen no one unfolding this topic in such a concise, information dense way, and I've listen to quite a few knowledgeable people approaching the matter. Thank you Helen!

[@ttomski3850]

Thank you Helen, for your work and for bringing this to the wider public, which includes myself.