The Falken AT3W vs The Falken AT4W | The Battle of the Treads

Watch as the Falken AT3W and AT4W tires go head-to-head in this ultimate battle of the treads! We'll compare their features, performance, and durability to help you choose the perfect tire for your next adventure. Don't miss out on this tire showdown!
0:00 - Intro
0:42 - Cost
1:11 - Tread Life
2:22 - Load, Speed Ratings & Size
2:52 - Weight
3:59 - On-Road
5:00 - Off-Road
5:29 - Should you Switch/Upgrade
6:31 - Is the AT3W discontinued

[@charliet5990]

YES! Please do a KO2 vs KO3 review.

[@Icutmetal]

I’ve owned both. Had great luck with the KO2’s on my diesel pickup. I was excited to get the KO3’s and bought them as soon as I saw them in my size. I took them off and sold them locally within 2000 miles. They look great, but rode like absolute shit in comparison…like I was driving on octagons. I had them rotated and balanced twice, which did not help. They were louder than the KO2’s and cost me 1+mpg. SimpleTire was unresponsive to my contact attempts and I hit nothing but canned responses from BFG.

[@Derkenblosh2]

Not needed... Went from BFG ko2 to ATW4s ... These are GREAT tires.

[@Icutmetal]

@@Derkenblosh2 Oh, since you didn’t purchase the KO3’s, everyone else can skip over them too?

[@thejdshipley]

Bought my AT3Ws (before the 4s came out) in 255/80r17 because they were the lightest E load I could get that still had good tread depth and overall off-road performance. I prioritized these tires because living in Houston and being a 90/10 driver I need better wet performance over better offroad capability. Although we don’t see snow, we do get ice 1-2x year and the whole damn area loses its mind, these tires do have good performance here too if for some reason I need to leave the house. Also, this size was extremely cost effective. Hopefully Falken doesn’t discontinue them. I’d also love to see these in 255/85r17.

[@calvinsallee]

Man thats crazy. The at3w was my favorite tire when i had 4x4 toyotas.

[@Jc-bo1uu]

I like the new Toyo open country R/T Trails. They tow grate and they have a 2 ply sidewall but it is extra thick so you get the benefits of a 3 ply sidewall tire but have the benefits of a 2 ply sidewall with the comfort, ride quality, and you don’t have the extra weight of a 3 ply tire. I’ve had my 8,600 pound truck in snow, Ice, mud, heavy rain, sand, soft dirt, and light red clay mud and they handled extremely well. And you can go through standing water approximately 3 inches deep at 40+ miles an hour with zero hydroplaning. They grip roughly good on and off road and they are not very loud either. I truly like them, for a R/T tire I feel they handle as good as a A/T tire on road and you get better traction off road with the Toyo R/T trails. And I tow a 12,000 pound trailer and they do great too.

[@rsisente]

Currently running the AT3W on my 5th gen 4Runner. I will be switching to the AT4W next week. I have been extremely happy with the 3W other than the amount of punctures. At least 2 per tires, and some have 3 or more.

[@davidg5965]

Been looking for more videos like this ✊️ thank you!

[@TrailBuilt]

Heck yeah! 🤙 Thanks for the support!

[@haygood9]

The falken rubitrek is just as good as the wildpeak. I love the rubitrek and they are a lot cheaper

[@free2chasehappy]

I pulled the trigger on AT4W, over the Patagonia AT Pro and Kenda Klever AT2. Mainly because Falken’s track record with their AT3W. My local tire shop only charged $4 per more on the AT4W so I thought what the heck. Will be getting them installed this week so I’m quite excited.

[@TrailBuilt]

Awesome! Hope they work well for you! Send us pics and let us know how they work for you!

[@daoyang8919]

How are you liking them?

[@free2chasehappy]

@@daoyang8919 loving them. It started a little noisy but quieted down in less than a 100 miles. Great traction for what I needed, I live out in the country so dirt, gravel and light mud is part of the commute. Quite comfortable and mine is the XL load. Drawbacks are that the tires are heavy, I did feel that my steering is heavier now. And difficult to balance, but that’s a shop issue. What other tires are you considering?

[@daoyang8919]

@@free2chasehappy Toyo at3, duratrac rt, and grabber atx were the ones I was looking at. At3w looks to be on backorder at discount tire where I usually go.

[@free2chasehappy]

@@daoyang8919 I’d say Toyo AT3 is the only tire that tops the Wildpeak AT4W for my needs. Both great off road, but on road characteristics Toyo AT3 takes it. The reasons I went with Wildpeak AT4W are because I wanted to try the latest stuff, snow ice performance, shop offered great price.

[@Scooty_Dino]

I've had the AT4 s on my truck for a couple weeks. (wanted to get the 3s, but they were sold out in the in the size I wanted. I was also told that the 3s were being discontinued). I had the AT3Ws on a previous truck, and LOVED them. Then I upgraded to a 1ton and wanted/need F rated tires. But, I couldn't get/find the AT3Ws in F rated during stupid Covid year. So, I went with Goodyear Duratracs. They were good tires, EXCEPT for the noise after 5,000 miles. I couldn't wait to get back to Wildpeaks, when the Duratracs wore down. (33k miles......towing a 40ft 5th wheel that weighs 15k,-16k during the Summer.) So...... So far with the AT4Ws (35x12.50r20, F rated)...... So, so, so, so quiet compared to the Duratracs!!!! We've had a little bit of everything in Colorado over the last couple weeks....... Snow, ice, slush, wet roads. Yes, the AT4 performance on ice is not as good as the AT3. But, the AT4 s still did a respectable job on the iced over roads. On the snow, slush, and wet roads the AT4 is just as good, if not better than the AT3Ws. The AT4s are 12lbs heavier, per tire, than the Duratracs. I'm definitely seeing that decrease in MPGs. But, I didn't get my truck, or the AT4s, for the MPGs...... I got both for SPGs (Smiles Per Gallon).

[@TrailBuilt]

This is the perfect feedback we love seeing! Just because the AT4W isn't as good on ice as the AT3W doesn't mean that it's not still GREAT! The AT3W was the king, so being that close to their performance is still huge! I love hearing that other people agree they do great in slush, wet roads, and snow too! I think you've got the perfect setup for the AT4W. Big ol' truck hauling big ol' things. Right where I think the AT4W will shine!

[@clintkamerzell1041]

At4w or Baja boss at for snow/ice/sludge?

[@harvendarbains3864]

AT3W - my experience, very poor on ice. My old KO2 were much better on ice. Otherwise like ATW3 better.

[@Kylewraps]

@@clintkamerzell1041I have at4 my mpg dropped significantly I had Nitto ridge that gave me 16 city 20 highway maybe 21 My Walmart Coopers were like 14.5 city 19 highway These at4s are 13.5 city 17.5 hwy do not get these tires tbh

[@kylefraser6845]

Wish I’d seen this, literally just ordered the 4W last night….damn haha

[@TrailBuilt]

Rule #1: Always check with Trailbuilt before ordering any tires. lol. Let us know how they work for you, though; we want to get as much real-life feedback as possible to help others' buying experiences!

[@je2338]

I bought AT3W when it first came out and no one considered falken as an all terrain tyre manufacturer. They cost me only $980 Australian (about $650 US). I've done about 56,000 miles and they are definitely due for replacement, although they still have some tread on them , they are just noisy. They have been noisy for a good 8000 miles. They have been a great tyre and offered excellent road grip in all conditions as well as good off road grip. I'd buy them again if they are on clearance

[@chrisridebike8]

I have the 3s in C-load. They are quiet, comfortable, and good enough for the off roading we do. The sacrifice in on road and inclement weather performance is not worth the gain in off road performance. If I wanted the RT 01, I’d get the RT 01

[@Jassman3536]

Thanks Fred great info. My 37 12.5 x 20's AT3's are good for about 5k more miles and was going to get a set of AT4's. Im on the road a lot towing so quiet is important....not certain now if I should get another set of AT3's or possibly try the KO3's. The only thing I hate about BFG is the tires always seem to be skinnier and not as tall as EVERYBODY else's tire. I have a Carli 3" level on my F250 so maybe BFG makes a 38-39 which will be the same size to what I have. Ill check your website out. Thanks

[@brandongonzales4570]

Good video! Planning on buying some new tires for my truck! Definitely considering the AT4W! Falken seems really good but I've always been a BFG guy! Heck yea I'd like to see a KO2 vs KO3 video!

[@TrailBuilt]

Thanks for the feedback! That seems to be the battle of the century, Falken vs BFG. To be honest, you can't go wrong with either of them! lol.

[@mikechandler3791]

Thanks for the review - it all comes down to how you use your vehicle and being honest about it. IMPO I think Falken is responding to the off-road community with the AT/4W and it would be a huge mistake to discontinue the AT/3W as they definitely have changed the market with that tire in respect to on-road performance in all weather conditions with the ability to have a reliable off-road experience if you (your tool of use) are a 90/10 user. The weight difference (and cost) is due to the 3ply sidewalls, the 10k mile added warranty plus the higher load rating for those that tow both on-road and off-road. Still too early to tell how they match up in actual use. Thanks for the thoughts to consider when selecting. There is no one perfect tire for all applications - however there are some that cross-over better than others. Back to considering your use and what is your personal priority in that use.

[@JT-MTB]

Great comparison video! Anyone have any experience with Falken A/T and the New-ish R/T? I am curious how on road noice compares

[@lizard2425]

Running the Falken AT3W siped. Love them. (Although they were Gawd awful expensive. )

[@gregm7991]

More ply = Stronger = Heavier = Better overall if you off-road much at all

[@chasewhite5872]

My tire shop just called Falken direct to check on the weight difference between AT3 and AT4. They said it’s a 1lb difference on the same size and load-rating. Were you guys comparing a C- to an E-load?

[@bdiddlemcgriddles]

I have the AT3Ws, got them about a year ago. I will be getting the AT4Ws when I need new tires. Unless I find another AT that suits me better by then.

[@Trail_Tinker_Toyota]

Currently running Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT load range c on my 4Runner. Been thinking the AT3W or Rubitrek in size 285/70/17. Now don’t know. Thanks for in depth videos.

[@TrailBuilt]

We appreciate the support man! All three of those are fantastic tires! I wouldn’t advise against any one of those

[@DirtTravelAdventures]

Nice Video Fred with Good information! I researched Falken Wildpeak AT3w & AT4w and then found KENDA TIRES and went with a set of their 3-PMSF rated Kenda Klever A/T2 in 285/70R17. Saved over $200 from the AT3W and over $500 on the AT4W!

[@kendatiresusa]

🙌 High performance doesn't always have to have a higher price! 💯

[@free2chasehappy]

How do you like the Klever AT2? I’m interested in them but there aren’t enough videos on the internet about how good they are.

[@DirtTravelAdventures]

@@free2chasehappy Absolutely surprised by how well they do in just about every type of weather and terrain out there. They handle great and are quite on the road and off-road they are absolute beasts. In fact, the A/T2 is even run on short course off-road race trucks. I'm pretty picky about my tires and if I'm impressed, I'm sure others will be as well... especially for the price.

[@free2chasehappy]

@@DirtTravelAdventures well danggit… I jumped the gun and pulled the trigger on the AT4W and getting them installed tomorrow. Good to hear it’s doing well for you! Great value is hard to find these days.

[@kendatiresusa]

@free2chasehappy You got that right!

[@elbacanreal]

If they discontinue one then we really don't have a choice now do we. I was planning on getting the at3 this next winter.. if they are still around.

[@ronweenk]

Thanks for the review. Falkens makes some great tires .We sell them at work, but the price point puts them out of reach for most people .they are one of our most expensive tires .that being said, they will be my next set of tires .

[@sullivan9191]

Where are you located?

[@ronweenk]

​@@sullivan9191 saskatchewan

[@sullivan9191]

@@ronweenk US vs Canadian pricing is all over the place. What’s your cost on a set up there?

[@OscyJack-]

In august I got new at3ws for 1400. Last week I got bigger AT4WS with more plys for $1000

[@zachb208]

🔥🔥🔥🔥 thanks for making this video

[@TrailBuilt]

Thanks for watching! Let us know if there are any other videos you’d love to see!

[@zachb208]

@@TrailBuilt we need Duratrac RT coverage. There are few videos and no good reviews or comparisons

[@TrailBuilt]

Appreciate the suggestion! We will look into it!

[@RC.56]

Thanks for the review, I’ve been in limbo on choosing attire, my new ram 1500 limited has 22 inch rims and lame Perelli all season street tires, looks like car tires. I can’t seem to come to a decision on getting a 20 inch rim and tire Pkg or using the 22 rim and putting on a 285/50/22…… or the stock size. 285/45… Trying to fill the wheel well slightly better, I think some more aggressive tires would do the trick, but I’m not sure if you want to have a larger diameter from stock?? The air suspension on the truck limits me from doing anything crazy with the suspension, I won’t mess with it. Go down to 20’s and up the sidewall a bit back to the stock diameter? Or keep 22 and go slightly bigger.

[@TrailBuilt]

Both are viable options, but downsizing to 20-inch rims for a more comfortable ride with taller sidewalls will usually give a more aggressive-looking wheel. Because you downsize the wheel, the tire can have a bigger sidewall without having to worry about rubbing or damaging your new truck. Additionally, because you downsized, you can choose a tire with an aggressive sidewall, like the Kenda Klever RT, go a bit bigger, and get the aggressive look you are wanting. At the end of the day though, both option are good, and it's up to you to decide what you like more. Hope this helps!

[@AJFOJASFILMS]

I went with the AT4W just for the skinny 33 (255/85r16) I think these are the only true AT tires for the size.

[@trackntrail2869]

Same here. Such a great size!

[@ckappato]

Where did you find any!? I’m having trouble finding them in that size

[@trackntrail2869]

@@ckappato Discount/America's Tire has them.

[@ckappato]

@@trackntrail2869 I’ve checked them both with no luck. They must not have them available in my area right now. Tire Rack is saying end of April 😫

[@bdd1469]

I hope they change the rubber compound. My AT3w's lasted around 2/3 as many miles as I get out of a set of BFG's on the same truck.

[@zb6618]

Dang, I got 90k miles out of them on an f150 and they still have 5/32 left

[@kickapoohiace8747]

Just checked Falken website specs. Like said here, 33” tires are heavier in the at4, but in the 32” range the AT3 is heavier.

[@robertreynolds6043]

Just put the at4w on my 4runner this week. Stayed w stock size to keep weight down and more tire travel. So far road noise is minimal. Plus the price difference was minimal...$1350 otd

[@RonaldSkancke]

I have a 92 dodge cummins 4wd. Tell me about ride comfort!

[@Blueythebear9]

I'm at over 60k miles with a fair bit of heavy off-road use in my at3w and still got 6mm of tread left. Will happily buy them again if I can

[@TrailBuilt]

Thanks for the review! Glad to hear that they are making it to that 60k mark!

[@Nodakguy]

I’ve been debating getting the AT3W for about 6 months then I saw the AT4W are now out & debating which ones to get. I live in North Dakota & go Hunting,Ice Fishing a lot otherwise it’s mostly in Town. Which should I get currently I DON’T have All-Terrain Tires on my 2022 Dodge Ram 1500.

[@TrailBuilt]

At the end of the day, we feel like you will be very satisfied with both! We recommend considering the key points and making that personal decision. Since you drive a Ram 1500, your truck will have no problem handling the AT4Ws. If you prefer a sturdy tire over better MPG, then the AT4W is your go-to! However, the AT3W will perform better in town. Both tires will get you to fishing or hunting spots, with the AT4W being slightly better for off-road terrain. Living in North Dakota, snow is something you have to watch out for on the road, and the AT3W performs better on ice, while the AT4W does better in slush. It really is a tough decision. If you want our suggestion, the AT4W offers a longer warranty and seems to fit your situation better, as long as you're okay with the MPG decreasing. (Sorry for the long answer, lol)

[@mercurials54]

Would be interesting to do a MPG test between AT4W and KO3s to see how much difference weight does.

[@NCtrailX]

The difference in tread design is so slight that it's likely a difference of a few percentage points in each category.

[@BryanSeaton]

I'm running Cooper Rugged Treks. I like them better in snow and in ice than my AT3Ws. Not crazy about the milage hit. Lost 2mpg.

[@donaldlong2418]

I have 70,000 miles on my 37/12.5 AT3W’s. I drive a 2020 F250. Best tires ever.

[@1tomdew]

Do a comparison between the Goodyear Duratrac RT and the Falcon AT4

[@derekwlynn]

I love my AT3W'S on my wrangler JKU

[@billocampo1365]

I was just at Discount Tires, for my Falken warranty and yes AT3W is discontinued, they're replacing it with the AT4W

[@danielboomson]

I just purchased some online last night

[@billocampo1365]

@danielboomson did Anthony helped you out

[@mikelee7069]

currently have worn out at3w, i called my tire guy to get another set and was told they're discontinued. have to get the at4w now.

[@TrailBuilt]

Your not the only one! Seems like a lot of people are having trouble getting ahold of the AT3W's. Try our website, trailbuiltoffroad.com and see if we have your size. We still have plenty in the warehouse.

[@thomaswoolsey2602]

I vote for k02 vs k03 for sure

[@adamtesalona1735]

I run a 285/70/17 in a p load AT3W on my 5th gen 4Runner. I went with p rating due to the weight of these things. I do feel as if they do better in really wet stuff compared to my KO2s. My KO2 would hydro plane after they got past the halfway point. I think at the end of the day we are splitting hairs between a lot of the premium ATs out there. All do well in snow and off roading. I’ll be going ko3s next time because of the weight and the so called improved channeling for wet stuff.

[@GratefulMets]

I currently run AT3/W but need to replace 2 tires due to an alignment issue that caused uneven wear. Discount Tire said “they’re close enough” - Is it safe / wise to run 2 of each model?

[@TrailBuilt]

Running two tires of different models on the same axle, especially within the same tire line, like the AT3/W, can be acceptable in certain circumstances. However, it's generally recommended to have matching tires on the same axle for optimal performance, handling, and safety. If you're considering replacing only two tires due to an alignment issue causing uneven wear, it's crucial to ensure that the two new tires closely match the existing ones in terms of size, tread pattern, and overall characteristics. The tread pattern from the AT4W to the AT3W closely matches but, the AT4W is heavier and thicker then the AT3W which may cause problems. It's not wise to do this but if you stay to the AT3W and AT4W mix you may be okay. Just don't mix with any other tire then the AT4W.

[@tyson1432]

For winter/icy, wet and gravel roads the MT boss AT is the king. I’ve ran many brands throughout the decades and have never found a tire that checks all the boxes for my needs like the Boss AT.

[@jessesimpson777]

I run the Kenda Klever RTs because they come in a 35x10.5r17 size and that size is extremely rare.

[@TrailBuilt]

This is very true! We forgot about this fact so thanks for reminding us!

[@Vndrew-run]

Was told yesterday it was indeed discontinued by a Discount Tire. Take that for what you will.

[@tomandhistruck]

I recently got myself a set of Kenda Klever RTs in size 33x12.5r17. Th is my new Go-to tire. I like their overall performance better than the k02, Goodyear Duratrac, General Grabber Atx. The Kenda Klever RT will be the tire I choose when I upgrade to 35s. I've ran all those tires in the mud, snow and long road trips. The only tire I would have to think long and hard about being better than in the snow/deep snow is the KO2. It is too close to call.

[@TrailBuilt]

That’s what I am running right now…

[@tomandhistruck]

@@TrailBuilt they’re amazing, right? You guys will get my business again when it’s time to upgrade 🤘🤘

[@TrailBuilt]

Love them! Awesome to hear!

[@kylebar724]

Have the at3w on my Bronco sport big bend running a 245. Love them. Weight to reliability was a big thought on mine because it's a 3 cylinder and I off road by myself hence why reliability is is important to me. Hearing the at4w weigh that much more is not gonna be okay with me and if they are discontinued I will need to find something else

[@Bacnow]

Yeah..that would be a bad idea on a small suv like yours! Heck, i have a 2.7 OuterBanks with 4:27 gear ratio and there is no way in hell that i’m fitting those lead shoes on my vehicle!

[@kylebar724]

@Bacnow Yea I hear yea. If I didn't offroad on my own I would have gone with something lighter and maybe something not as good as these. But I'm by myself and I wanted every advantage to make it home. I thought about going with their trail tire if I could put a winch on it. I'm not rock crawling or anything but I'm also not doing just serviced roads either. I've ran through technical stuff for the kind of vehicle and mud and dirt.

[@ryanmiller9198]

I just bought the at4w's a month ago and they were cheaper than the at3w's. The manufacture stated they were discontinuing my size so I went with the at4w's and saved some cash. My size is 325/65/r18. I wish I could compare the 3w's but never had a pair. I had settled on the 3w's until I found they were discontinuing my size. Compared to my previous ridge grapplers they are much more responsive on road and astronomically better on thin snow, water, slush, ice etc. However for off-roading the nitto's were tanks when it came to rocks and sticks. Still love the nitto's for what they are good at and still my favorite looking tire, however, the 4w's are definitely the better all around tire. Actually heavier than my nitto's which is crazy to me but still noticed a slight improvement in MPG, however, it's all about the smiler per gallon :D

[@Kylewraps]

I have a 2014 Silverado 4.5 lift 33” tires I get 13.5 city it reads and 17.5 highway with these new at4s Going back to Nitto f these tires

[@TrailBuilt]

Thanks for the feedback! Beating the Nitto Grapplers off-road is a difficult challenge. How would you say the noise difference is? In our reviews, the 4Ws were quieter. What did you find, though?

[@ryanmiller9198]

@@Kylewraps I haven't looked at my averages yet because they are still pretty new but I was averaging about 10/11 mpg before with the 35" nitto ride grapplers, my lead foot and full suspension lift lol. Mostly driving around town. Can't really compare the MPG's on these hybrid rugged terrains to regular tires or less aggressive all terrains. They call the at4w an all terrain but its really a hybrid/rugged terrain. The more aggressive and off road ready the tire gets the less MPG's it will get.

[@Kylewraps]

@@ryanmiller9198 JFC 10/11 mpg I’m going back to stock next vehicle and keeping it that way Only mod will be a tonneau cover

[@ryanmiller9198]

@@TrailBuilt So I am running 325/65/18's which is a smidge shorter than a 35" and about 13" wide. I literally notice no noise at all. I never heard a noise out of my nitto's either. (at the same size) Both extremely quite compared to any mudder out there. I'd say noise is not a factor whatsoever with either tire but I run bigger tires with lots of sidewall and sometimes the smaller tires have dif compounds/builds. I don't expect the at4w's to beat out the nitto's when it comes to gnarlier terrain and mud. They will def come short. Curious to see how they do hold up when I can get on something other than snow though. But on wet/snow and paved roads they are definitely an improvement over the ridge grapplers but that was to be expected.

[@chillaxin2012lhs]

i had a set of AT3W in 315s on my Ram 3500. The Ice and Snow traction was awesome and a fairly Quiet tire. Hate to see it go.

[@cyrusortiz-luis291]

I got these because it’s the only decent AT available in 255/85-16. Much better than the KO2 they replaced. They are heavy, but I think they are heavy because of their durability. We’ll see what happens long term.

[@TrailBuilt]

It's good to know that you find them better than the KO2's. That would be an interesting test. Let us know what the long-term experience with them is like. We're excited to see how they hold up!

[@cyrusortiz-luis291]

@@TrailBuilt I always felt that the ko2 were squirmy in the rain and snow. I had these in light snow and held up well. I had the ko2 in 285/75-16 so I can have a 33” but even those were slightly short. At4w are a true 33” tire. Prior to the ko2 I had Goodyear MTR in 285/75-16. Those things were awesome but always on back order. I prefer the GY MTR over the KO2 any day. I would definitly get the Baja boss but they don’t come in 33” pizza cutters. After watching tinkerers adventure on pizza cutters I decided to make the switch. I don’t drive a lot on my FJ now so it’s going to take a long time to wear through these tires.

[@cyrusortiz-luis291]

@@TrailBuilt yes! Do a ko3 or ko2 vs At4w. These tires are almost as heavy as my ko2 285/75-16 even though they are a skinnier tire.

[@SuperDubmonster]

So I went out with a group of 5 Grand Cherokee wk2s we had 1 trail hawk with QT2 and LSD running the AT3Ws and 2 limiteds with Quadra trac 2 running mud tires a summit with QT2 running mud tires and a Laredo QT1 running mud tires. Well the trail hawk kept getting stuck in the snow and us 4 other GCs on mud tires didn’t get stuck. And I was a huge fan of the AT3W until that day. The trail hawk owner got so frustrated that he had to keep getting winched out of stuff us 4 other guys just drove through with ease he just ended up cutting off mid trail. We were happy to help every time he got stuck because it helped us train on our recovery game and he just wasn’t having fun and decided he was done. So the AT3or4W series won’t be going on any of my vehicles. However I am excited to install my LT295/70/17 wildpeak MTs!

[@danclay8229]

I am guessing that the discontinuing is true since my tire shop could not source the Falken Wildpeak AT3W in the size tire I wanted. In fairness, they also could not get the Toyo open country At whatever in the size I wanted either. I ended up with a Cooper AT3. Maybe I can get the AT4. It wasn't offered as an option at the time.

[@TrailBuilt]

We think that's where the rumor started. People have been having a hard time getting ahold of the AT3W ever since the AT4W came out!

[@toyotabrony]

@TrailBuiltOff-road Hey guys so I know u guys understand my unique application for my 2015 lifted Scion xB and my Toyo open country at3 215/70/16. And I’ve been thinking if my next all terrain tires is, and a specific size I looked for is 235/65/16. I want to retain the same overall size. Which 215/70/16 and 235/65/16 are nearly identical. Which is a plus. So for my question to u guys is. 1: should I change from Toyo - open country at3 to Falken - Wildpeak AT4W? 2: should I go from 215/70/16 to 235/65/16 because Falken is the only one carry’s those size? 3: for comparison size for 215/70/16 between Toyo - open country at3 and Falken - wildpeak at4w, is the AT4W heavier than open country at3? 4: in ur opinion, should I stick to 215/70/16, and that the Falken wildpeak at4w has better capability than Toyo - open country at3? And last 5: is the AT4W are as quiet as OP at3? Plus. I love the look how aggressive the AT4W is. Way better than my OP at3. I mean should have make it more aggressive. Love the style,safety, and better performance. Also, AT4W now has 65k tread wear mile like the OP at3. Which is a big plus. And also, I live in up north in Illinois. My Toyo - open country at3 did very well for me for the last almost 3 years now. Still got a lot of life in them. I deal with my daily with no goin off-road involve. From rain, sometimes dirt road, and of course winter time. Just FIY.

[@TrailBuilt]

That sounds like a wild build. You're looking at two fantastic tire options here. With the AT4W being a relatively newer tire, we do not have a ton of long term knowledge on them. However if weight is the ultimate deciding factor; AT4W 235/65-16 weigh in at 42.2# AT3 215/70-16 weigh in at 29#

[@toyotabrony]

@@TrailBuilt and how much weight is for Falken - Wildpeak AT4W on 215/70/16?

[@JohnDoe-ud2cc]

The falken Rubitrek is cheaper and a better snow tire. I put a set on my wife’s Tahoe and they rock

[@TrailBuilt]

We might have to do a comparison because you're not the only person who has said this. Many people praise both in the snow over the other, so it would be interesting to see them face off.

[@TrailBuilt]

Thanks for the feedback!

[@erice4611]

My other favorite tire is the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T.

[@TrailBuilt]

GREAT TIRE!

[@njbinkers]

Due to this video I was gonna get a new set of the AT4W but after watching it and not having much real world reviews and traction fkr snow and ice, I'm sticking with the AT3W and getting a new set arriving nest week before they get discounted as my current set has lasted about 55-60k and I'm ok with that

[@Kylewraps]

What’s your mpg on the at3s? My mpg is like 13.5 w/ at4s city and 17.5 highway 2014 Silverado 4.5” lift 33” tire Going back to Nitto ridge tbh

[@paulthompson661]

Mickey Thompson Baja boss at#1 Toyo RT trail #2

[@blakeharden4528]

anyone know where i can buy at3w’s?

[@toyotabrony]

@TrailBuiltOff-Road So here’s my question. And I will say I never go off-road and we don’t have an area for me in Illinois. Except it’s 2.5 hour drive and that’s not gonna happen. Which is the best all terrain tires with P-metric rating on mostly on-road? I own a 2015 lifted Scion xB, 2” lift in the front and 2.5” lift in the rear. With 215/70/16 Toyo - open country at3. I love these tires. They performed very well in wet, dry, the handling is noticeably very well. In winter time, it gets the job done and it works better. Now it’s not the best compare to winter tires. But in general, Toyo - open country at3 all day. Downside is they don’t have a very aggressive, just mild sidewall should. But that 65,000M tread wear warranty is awesome. HOWEVER!! I want to hear from u guys that what I explain, in ur opinion. Which all terrain tires suits better for my application? Should I stick with Toyo - open country AT3 with 65,000M 2: Hankook - Dynapro AT2 Xtreme with 70,000M with aggressive should side walls. Or 3: the new and improve Falken - Wildpeak AT4W with (finally) 65,000M, and it has much more aggressive should blocks. And it’s for my on-road application. Never go off-road as I said before. And what is the weight size for all 3 all terrain tires for 215/70/16 vs. 235/70/16 or 235/65/16? And are the sizes that I describe available? I want to hear from u guys about which one u think it’s best.

[@TrailBuilt]

AT3W: $787.84: LT215/75R15: 36.2 lbs: Aggressive Look: 1st Open Country AT 3: $751.36: 27.26 lbs: Aggressive Look: 2nd AT2 Xtreme: $675.68: 215/70R16: 28.12 lbs: Aggressive Look: 3rd Alternate Tires: Falken Wildpeak AT Trails: $724: 27.13 lbs: Slightly Aggressive Looking With your vehicle and the fact that you do not off-road, the Open Country AT3s are best suited for your purpose. The AT3W will perform and look the best but will cost the most and have more weight. You may also want to look at the Falken Wildpeak AT Trails. They are great for snow and wet performance while also having a more aggressive look while weighing less than your AT3s. When it comes down to looks, though, that is typically a very subjective thing because it's all in the eyes of the viewer. So you get to make that decision. Hope this helps!

[@toyotabrony]

@@TrailBuilt thanks alot guys. It really does help a lot. So it’s best to stick the tires that I’m running right now which that’s nice to hear. So my two options is either keep using Toyo - Open country AT3 or Falken - Wildpeak AT trails? Does the Falken - WildPeak AT Trails have also 65k miles on? And I’m actually happy to hear that their couple pounds lighter than my AT3’s. How about 3PMSFR? Does the Wildpeak has thst simbol rating on the AT trails?

[@toyotabrony]

@@TrailBuilt and one more thing. Which of the all terrain tires are quieter? Mines is nice and quiet while it has a deep rugged sound in a nice sutle way. But how about Falken - WildPeak AT trails?

[@mitchmacleod7575]

Had the AT3W for 180,000 km in a 285/70/17. They were a great all around tire. Would have bought another set except the price tag was up 400$ from when I originally purchased them. Running the Kuhmo AT52 now.

[@jensvincent4702]

Were these tires the same Load/Ply? Otherwise the weight and speed is invalid.

[@Bananahammock88]

So the at3w came with a big tread depth. The 19/32 depth was the most tread of almost any all terrain. I think the new at4w went down to like 14/32

[@ledforthehead23]

I'm leaning to a Falkin tire. It's gonna be hard to beat the Ridge Grapplers. We shall see

[@ril850_1]

Bought a set of AT3/w’s before they were gone.

[@RollinsOutdoors]

I was told by sumitomo that the at4 is replacing the at3

[@OscyJack-]

Tbh it'd be awesome to have more than talking points, but like, actual testing. Just food for thought

[@NigelNaughton]

Great points. It's too bad the AT4W is that much heavier. My AT3Ws have been absolutely amazing and I have had them for over 5 years on my 80 series Land Cruiser. Great vid.

[@TrailBuilt]

Thank you! Gonna be honest, when we put them on the scale, we were kind of shocked. It's reassuring to know, though, that they are durable! Waiting to see if that extra weight is worth it in the long run.

[@NigelNaughton]

@@TrailBuilt You make the good point that if you have power enough it will be no big deal....well my 80 Land Cruiser doesn't have any to spare. 😜

[@getsducks727]

1989 Isuzu Trooper 2.6L 3800Lbs. Was going to go with the AT4's. Now I'm reconsidering the AT3's because of weight difference. That little engine needs all the help it can get. Up in Canada in the PNW so lots of rainy highways getting to offload areas where up high we get piles of snow. Any thoughts? Thanks

[@TrailBuilt]

I think you've got it down! You don't want to push the engine any more than you have to, and the AT3W's are very capable of dealing with snow and rain on roads so there should be no problem there!

[@getsducks727]

Thanks. Now the million dollar question.. What are the chances Falken discontinues the AT3 and I'm stuck for replacements? @@TrailBuilt

[@SigmaWolfOutdoors]

At4's are way more heavy ..rotational mass effects MPG ..

[@GT5005]

It’s probably because they beefed up the sidewalls and longer tread depth.

[@theadvocatesails]

Shame the don't do the Forester sizes

[@kevinrabito8516]

35 x 11.5x17 only in a C range, 6 ply. AT4W? Why :(

[@ronaldduwaynebrown8071]

Love my at3w 285 75 18 were pricey

[@mwp597]

Yes, Discount tire has discontinued selling the AT3W's. I was just on there web sight looking at the AT3W and they are not selling them. Big red Letters, DISCONTINUED!

[@TrailBuilt]

Check out www.trailbuiltoffroad.com we have some sets in stock pending size requirements.

[@kylemorden4436]

It’s a good overview based on manufacturer specs but not really a review or even a side by side comparison on some real rocks

[@Icutmetal]

Kind of typical for these guys.

[@mountainsintomemories]

I’d like to see KO3 vs Faulken AT4

[@Bacnow]

I’m currently in the market for AT tires. The AT4w WAS at the top of my list! However, The extra weight makes me cringe! Sorry, but I’ll have to take a pass on those puppies!

[@DirtTravelAdventures]

Check out Kenda Tire's AT2. Great tire and less expensive then Falkens. 👊

[@Bacnow]

@@DirtTravelAdventures - I would love to. Unfortunately, Kenda doesn’t produce AT tires in my desired size range! 285/70/18 or 295/70/18 (they produce a mud tire in this size but that’s not an option)

[@user-qd3bh9zb5g]

I think they are wrong about the weight. I have AT4W and my mpg is the same.

[@Bacnow]

@@user-qd3bh9zb5g - I doubt that the Falcon tire company (or any tire company) would screw that up! They would torpedo their own sales!

[@user-qd3bh9zb5g]

No, I meant the video was wrong not Falken.@@Bacnow

[@xdanielxcastrox]

Please do AT4W VS KO3!

[@TrailBuilt]

I like your thinking, hopefully we can do that! That would be a great battle!

[@dsavage1553]

If you have a TRD PRO and you plan on never going off roading like 80% of them get the A/T3W.

[@johnnyreb1475]

Kenda klever rt whoops that little puppy.

[@user-bh9yk2wv4w]

235/65r17 AT4 are 5 LB lighter than the AT3

[@alex_truckingtv1263]

3 months later no supplier have at3w 🤷‍♂️ so they got discon

[@TrailBuilt]

Depending on size we have some stock

[@6788tappleton]

They are discontinued now

[@blaing3354]

Ive heard nothing but good things about the at3w the last few years - Was going to get some 30" tires for my cherokee.... til I saw the clearance prices on a 235/75 it was a no brainer. Even ordered a fifth for a full size spare. Couldnt beat it for 124/tire!

[@catalystactual6491]

7 more pounds is bonkers. I'd like to get over 15mpg

[@underscr0e]

Some reports of random bad road force results.

[@kevinC_]

My only concern is the weight those boys are heavy!

[@Kylewraps]

I have them I don’t recommend them my mpg rn is 13.5 city 17.5 highway (at best) Gonna try to return them soon

[@Kylewraps]

Nitro Ridge Grappler best A/T tire I’ve had I also had Walmart Cooper tires which were decent especially for $700+ for a set but they got 1-2mpg worse then the Nittos and it was harder to steer from a standstill which could be ⚠️

[@kevinC_]

@@Kylewrapson what vehicle? I have a 5th gen 4-runner

[@Kylewraps]

@@kevinC_ 2014 Silverado 5.3L V8 with a 4.5” lift Gonna see about returning these tires when my mechanic opens up Tuesday Gonna go back to Nittos or just stick with these for a year then trade truck in if I can’t return them Next truck gonna be stock anyways 2025 Ram Charger

[@TrailBuilt]

It's good to hear real reviews about these tires. It's difficult to make a sturdier tire without impacting the weight. How much worse is your MPG with the AT4W compared to the Ridge Grapplers?

[@nrmedic2396]

Ditched AT3W for Toyo ATIII… Weight, simple as that.

[@Kylewraps]

⁠I have at4 my mpg dropped significantly I had Nitto ridge that gave me 16 city 20 highway maybe 21 My Walmart Coopers were like 14.5 city 19 highway These at4s are 13.5 city 17.5 hwy do not get these tires tbh I should’ve gone with Toyo

[@nrmedic2396]

@@Kylewraps '22 F150 Powerboost. I average around 18-20 city because I have a lot of stop and go with kind of negates the hybrid. Hwy varies, but anywhere from 25-30 depending on speed.

[@rjnoj-xb5kq]

Toyo ATIII great all around performance and lighter than all the others.

[@jasonkimble8926]

Don't like the weight difference

[@B86432]

Just get some Goodyear's or bfg's

[@MIAMIC70]

A/T4W is too damn heavy.

[@Kylewraps]

I found that out the hard way TERRIBLE MPG 13.5 city 17.5 hwy on a 2014 Silverado 4.5” lif

[@henryscreations]

because it’s more beefy.. 🤦🏻🤦🏻

[@callmelawrence9546]

I got the at3w on my 98 4banger tacoma. Mainly got them for Montana winters for its 3peak rating. I dont haul anything, but i do offroad. I hope they continue at3w. If not, gona have to go another rout as i prioritize the snow ratings for all terrain tires, snd rumors ate that the at4 is not as good. In winter conditions. I dont need to haul anything, just a dependable all terrain non high load tire.

[@TrailBuilt]

We have a video about the best tires under $1500, where we discuss the tires we love here at Trailbuilt. If you're interested in exploring options, I think that's a great video to start with. Are there any specific tires you're currently considering?