The FatFreq x HBB Deuce Is for IDIOTS

The FatFreq x HBB Deuce is potentially the worst IEM of the year. You have to be a complete imbecile to think an IEM with performance equivalent to a $20 one is worth $250.
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[@mrgblue4946]

My guy got a pair of Variations, now he thinks hes crinacle lol

[@sharuraudio]

cope noob

[@rogerjosefsen1360]

I’m one of the complete idiots 😂😂😂

[@VoxVirtus86]

stop pretending that people buying a FF Maestro series IEM gives a shit about treble performance. They want their brain massaged by bass.

[@Jvnkiep0p]

ok how about we stop making assumptions about gear we've never heard based off measurements alone and just let people enjoy what they want to enjoy and not see yourself as better than others because of your choice of gear

[@sharuraudio]

Audio is not a joke hobby. It is a science.

[@Suoh2]

the audio hobby is a blend of passion, technical exploration, and community engagement. People are drawn to it for the joy of experiencing music in its finest form, the opportunity to learn about sound technology, and the therapeutic benefits that music can provide. I think you forgot the main reason why people want to get into the audio hobby in the first place

[@todo5603]

It is very subjective, I don't care about treble, if bass is my priority.

[@strobe1691]

I've never seen this guy before & feel like I've seen all the content creators for audio but one of two things is true here... 1. This is a satirical channel with the goal of driving engagement by doing ridiculous videos & trying to drum up controversy or... 2. This dude is just projecting he's miserable in life and looking for things to bash to feel better about where he is. If this is the case it's unfortunate, but it's no secret a lot of people dive into hobbies when they're not happy to find an escape. Some heal from the hobby, some just let the misery consume them and continue to project it out to the world. In some cases, that misery is projected to an uncapped audience on socials & YT. Hope he has a reflection on how silly this is and finds peace. If this is a satire channel, then good on them they got me fooled.

[@Quantowski]

​@@sharuraudio dude, did you give a like to your own comment?

[@squidikka]

So you're saying based on squiggles, that the Chu2 sounds the same as these iems, of which you haven't heard before? Help me understand.

[@sharuraudio]

the treble drivers are virtually identical, so the treble will sound about the same. what is so hard to understand?

[@squidikka]

@@sharuraudio The part where you compare a fatfreq iem to a $20 chifi iem based on treble drivers alone. Is this just a drama channel? Hard to take you seriously if you haven't even tested out the iems you're calling garbage. FF's scarlet mini, maestro, etc, share drivers with other low costing iems but sound worlds apart. I don't really get your angle here.

[@sharuraudio]

you are a delusional enthusiast. I am a professional

[@squidikka]

@@sharuraudio Nothing about your videos indicate you being a professional in any capacity though. You're an enthusiast who thinks themselves professional. Hence not actually answering the question, as well as using an actual professionals graphs because you're incapable of making your own.

[@redstoneprogrammer]

@@squidikka He is saying that the $200 iem has the same or similar treble quality issues as a $20 one. Treble is typically where most iems struggle, and it's often the reason someone might justify spending more money. In this case, paying $200 is pointless. You could simply buy the cheaper iem and use eq to achieve similar tuning.

[@chrisg5352]

I’m not gonna lie, but this review and previous ones aren’t great. You only use graphs but don’t provide an actual listening experience review. Super negative for no reason. This is a real small community of bitter people

[@sharuraudio]

what university do you study audio at?

[@chrisg5352]

@@sharuraudio anyone can learn to read a graph. But since you’ve studied audio, you should know to post an actual review

[@giatoyama]

He forgot that you need to use a 5,000$ dac, and 200$ cable to “open up” the Deuces treble

[@chinmayrasam]

I just don't get the hype for the Deuce. It's a basshead set, super niche specific. Why are non basshead audiophiles excited for this.

[@attackoftheplot]

A graph does not capture everything about an iem. I've seen a couple of your videos now. What exactly are your credentials? From the sound of it you just stare at graphs all day. Do you have experience listening to a large assortment of iems? Is your experience limited to throwing shade on other people?

[@sharuraudio]

My credentials are higher than anyone you trust in audio. I can promise that.

[@haomingli6175]

to disprove the idea that graph captures everything about an iem, you need to find 1) two iems that have the same graph and 2) these two iems still can be distinguished under double blind conditions. I don't think anyone has had this kind of evidence. on the other hand, there is sufficient reason to believe that at least for iems, the graph is basically the only thing you need to care about. iems' deviations from minimum phase systems are below audibility thresholds nowadays, and it is the mathematically proven property of minimum phase systems to have all their information contained in their frequency response.

[@attackoftheplot]

@@sharuraudio that answer doesn't inspire me with confidence in you. Me thinks there may be a reason you only have 7k subscribers

[@attackoftheplot]

@@haomingli6175 well.... I own the chu 2's and I've order the deuce so I'll keep you boys posted. Hell.. I might even do my first KZbin video just out of spite.

[@8BitParadise]

​@attackoftheplot I mean if subscriber count is a metric for credibility. You have zero subscribers. Which by your logic means you are actually void of even a bread crumb of integrity.

[@poki6041]

now i have another question, do resolution matter like the frequency response ? (reactivity of the membrane who can be measured on a square wave ) bcs you can give a iem with a perfect Sharur target if it has no resolution i will certainly no't enjoy it :< for example i have a hd560s with shit trebble but it has more resolution than some expensive iem so i enjoy more the trebble on this headphone wtf ? xD

[@h1a8]

The hbb deuce sounds fantastic and I'm a hardcore iem enthusiast (over 30 years and over $5,000 worth of headphones). I like it better than the Estrella.

[@N4CR]

I don't get the hype with ANY IEMs. I have never seen a measurement that is even close to linearity of budget hifi speakers in a well setup room, let alone most headphones. What is the point? Is it so they are compact?

[@moonsofjupiter]

Without the impedance adapter the Deuce is tame bass wise. People going off and not even knowing what they’re talking about.

[@SofaKing88]

I'm curious as to what iem under $300 do you recommend that has great treble and bass

[@sharuraudio]

estrella with eq

[@N4CR]

Just get headphones lmao

[@SofaKing88]

​@@N4CRwooooow great information. How about you name some headphones that you think are worth getting in that price range.

[@randallkubiszewski6908]

@@sharuraudioeq 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@rhythimrt9970]

HBB: Hey guys, buy a couple 10 cent drivers and imma make em worth 200$. Watch.

[@znojnyj]

Apparently the hardest thing in life is to disable the webcam xD

[@RubiksLeo]

didnt you say 5128 is a joke

[@R-sn1ty]

you haven't even heard it 🤔

[@sharuraudio]

don't need to

[@R-sn1ty]

@@sharuraudio cope

[@sharuraudio]

@@R-sn1ty noob

[@zblus]

Thoughts on the Simgot EM10?

[@sharuraudio]

prob bad

[@zblus]

It measures almost identical to the variations, but with slightly more bass

[@sharuraudio]

timmyv.squig.link/?share=Timmy_Target,Simgot_EM10 this is not almost identical..

[@sharuraudio]

the drivers are trash

[@zblus]

​@@sharuraudio Timmy's unit measures quite differently from HBB's or Jaytiss's unit. I wish there was a B&K measurement out there

[@DhineshBabu89]

do you have any database or list of IEMS that you recommend?

[@karolkedzierski5824]

Im fed up with all these cheap "close-to-totl" iems and their shitty trebles. Im also fed up with all these shouty, congested tunings. They grow like mushrooms after rain and get forgotten after a week. Stupid people jump on the hype trains and after couple weeks you see so many listings on Head-fi. What a dumb hobby. Too little choice is bad but too much is maybe even worse

[@reffyaldo]

For those anyone who is confused, any iem with single DD will have that sharp peak, and not even moondrop spring tips could save that

[@VoxVirtus86]

Its not a single DD it's 2 DD - not really arguing what you're saying. Just making sure the facts are out there.

[@reffyaldo]

@@VoxVirtus86 i never said that deuce is single DD, but, ok i guess, thanks for stating it

[@CPubi]

how is the chu ii garbage for its price?

[@ezrabrownstein3237]

God we are so fucking back

[@sharuraudio]

yes

[@giatoyama]

He actually made a good video again, guys the old sharur is back

[@sharuraudio]

thank canjam maybe

[@dgjm7129]

​@@sharuraudiocry harder

[@sharuraudio]

@@dgjm7129 ur the one crying

[@haomingli6175]

moondrop did something interesting to fight the 11khz peak of single DDs. it invented the spring tips. these tips delay the peaks and create dips around 10-11khz and make the treble sound better.

[@sharuraudio]

spring tips suck

[@haomingli6175]

@@sharuraudio no, they definitely make iems like the kato suck less.

[@Helmond2017]

We hope you release a collab IEM. That would be awesome.

[@GearGeek666]

Dude, I appreciate the deep dive into the technical aspects of the Deuce, I think it's important to acknowledge that graphs and measurements, while useful, don’t always capture the full listening experience. Some IEMs can perform differently in real world usage, especially with the right tips and EQ adjustments. Ive tried various IEMs that had negative reviews, yet I personally enjoyed them because of their tuning. A fairer assessment would be to actually listen to the Deuce and then compare results with the theory (graphs). The Deuce, for instance, is designed for a specific audience those who prioritize a powerful, bass-heavy sound. There’s definitely room for different preferences in the audio world, and while it might not be for everyone, it could still resonate with listeners who enjoy that signature. Just my two cents!

[@sharuraudio]

no

[@DeviGlamor]

breaking news: bass head iem has bad treble

[@sharuraudio]

there's nothing stopping an iem from being for bass heads and having good treble

[@giatoyama]

@@sharuraudio exactly, people act like bass head Iem’s can only have good bass and shitty everything else, at that point you might aswell use a shitty headphone like the Skullcandy crusher evos that sound like 2015 beats with a vibrator inside

[@DeviGlamor]

@@sharuraudio I agree, this is a good opportunity for you to fix the deuce, so Sharur X HBB when

[@VoxVirtus86]

@@giatoyama I dunno, seems to be that even if it's technically POSSIBLE, you gotta pay more for that. So for $200 you're pretty much picking - do you want balanced, bass or treble because it's not going to be good at it all unless you're spending $500+

[@TheModeRed]

​@user-qu3yu4uc8o That's only part of his plan, why he keeps you guessing and gasping on purpose 😂

[@devaraft]

Oof yea when it was $20 ish I could accept the treble weakness but $250? Yea no. This could've been great and that's what I think is the most infuriating. It's like they tried to tune the bass + mids but they completely do the bare minimum on the treble

[@dropdeadjunkie]

Have actually heard them?

[@sharuraudio]

don't need to. i'm a pro

[@dropdeadjunkie]

@@sharuraudio did you buy your pro credentials, do you have them, can I see them?

[@sharuraudio]

I am an audio scientist and researcher at stanford

[@duanedarby631]

Wow, there is some butthurt in some of these comments!

[@AKB123]

Let’s be honest, the Fatfreq Deuce are actually a revelation especially for Base heads. I mean these are inherently musical. They are 1/3 the price of the scarlet mini. Just Believe me and try these on.

[@sharuraudio]

no

[@LifebyBrody]

Dude is the Leafy of the "audiophile" world

[@PackingMaterial]

Confused between, 1. Kiwiears quintet 2. Dita project m 3. Ziigaat X Jay's Audio Estrella Please help 🙂

[@sharuraudio]

estrella with endgame mod

[@h_enrix_92]

Childish sub bass boost, poor treble extension and no vocal clarity.

[@susokraut]

sums it up succintly. What a trash IEM for apparently 260$

[@wahid-lg1kk]

​@@susokraut For that money you can get Doscinco

[@haomingli6175]

i think vocal clarity should be there, based on the graph.

[@h_enrix_92]

@@haomingli6175 yes, but I was referring to male vocals.

[@haomingli6175]

@@h_enrix_92 i think the impact will show on only the lowest notes used by pop male singers.

[@famousibarra1]

Point to me on the graph where HBB hurt you.

[@Smzxe]

Hope they kept the bass similar as variations Treble is non fatiguing But yeah lots of bass will ruin everything just like ew200

[@MML66]

With this title and review, I felt that even if you changed a thousand pictures for your channel, you would still be the most hated person in this hobby.

[@sharuraudio]

cope

[@resottolamontagna904]

Because the truth hurts many people and companies. This is not headfi where the reviewers/shillers are going to talk good about every iem to not get blacklisted from companies.

[@MML66]

@@resottolamontagna904 It is really sad to see someone like you. I do not follow ZEOS, for example. You can say that this applies to most of the people I follow. It is rare for them to say about a product that it is complete, and sometimes they criticize it harshly, to the point that he is just trying to troll, even if the product is good. I feel rather disgusted. He even describes those who buy some items as stupid or other things. The worst people are those who believe that they are telling the truth and everyone is against them, and they are playing the role of humans and spreading the truth.😅

[@christophsmaul5575]

@@MML66 this.

[@Kurazaybo]

Oh but it does get more stupid.

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

B-B-But I was just about to order a pair...

[@sicka9048]

yes

[@slevingaius]

When watching hbb on youtbe on pre-launch there were concerns... This product is his idea, he wanted no multi-driver setup and wanted to keep the cost low, purchase can be made from fatfreq or linsoul*. Glad i pause and waited, will probably opt for a quedalix 5k purchase first. Its definitely overkill for me but its a great tool and to make do with what i have first. Yes. Im aware that a regular cheap below 5 dollar usb-c dac is more than enough.

[@sharuraudio]

@@slevingaius smart move

[@slevingaius]

@@sharuraudio I have you to thank sir. Even though you dont promote it the 5K I stumble upon it by chance in one of your videos. Went to look it up and goosh its a gem, fully functional and packed with amazing features. Sony even partnered with Qudelix.

[@slevingaius]

@@sharuraudio I have your to thank sir, even though its not promoted in your channel, I stumbled upon it by accident in one of your video and others. Went to look it up and my goosh the Qudelix is a gem.

[@sharuraudio]

i have to review it sometime then

[@HugginsBart-d2j]

Reva Plain

[@Kenny-Somafunk]

Woohoo....I'm an idiot certified by Sharur.

[@susokraut]

If you bought this IEM for that price, yes.

[@Hijynx87]

I'm an idiot

[@xeruskun]

Sorry, Canjam. I'm not even angry over you right now. I bear no grudge against anyone. It's just that the world feels so, so wonderful right now. Throughout Heaven and Earth, I alone am the honored one.

[@cetinakpan6389]

I really missed this type of videos from you

[@sharuraudio]

getting banned from canjam must have motivated me to go back to basics on these people

[@susokraut]

me too!

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

Singaporean companies are "CHI-FI", now?

[@sharuraudio]

yes

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@sharuraudio, even if they are NOT Chinese?

[@sharuraudio]

@@ReverendDr.Thomas they fall under the chi-fi umbrella

[@ReverendDr.Thomas]

@@sharuraudio, that must be true, because you loved your own comment.

[@CammyFi]

Now that you have MISJUDGED a superior, you too will be judged by one of your subordinates. As you have sown, so you are ALREADY reaping. You cannot say that you were never warned, Sinful Slave!

[@psycksmurf3168]

Wow, judgemental title fit for a 5-year-old. Screams "I'm desperate for views and subs." I'll pass.

[@sharuraudio]

cope

[@masterazlan6999]

Agreed!..Peace!

[@R.C.Bullar]

I love fatfreq… however, I do agree this tuning is trash and is overdone.

[@MuhammadAryyanAlsyadha]

Nah bro you're too late to the party .. Moondrop, Tanchjim and Softears resolve those DD treble peak issue many years ago (e.g Moondrop Illuminations, Softears Twilight, for cheaper alt Kato and Origin) ✌🏻

[@sharuraudio]

no it was not solved, they just created another issue

[@MuhammadAryyanAlsyadha]

@@sharuraudio haha you're right .. at least it does'nt sound utterly dog shit, at the end of the day every IEM needs EQ to suit every user liking/preference

[@Valter6532]

now do cca trios

[@prodigal99]

omg they are literally chu 2s 😂

[@susokraut]

Finally a good video again. HBB is really a dork, he just acts as if he knew things but just doesn´t.

[@moseslim945]

Trash talking review, sure.

[@madz6n6]

What a joke!!? Are you a reviewer or just a jokester!? Please review with the actual unit itself!!!

[@sharuraudio]

cope

[@michaels2787]

🤣

[@paulosilva8200]

Ha ha. He said a ddd driver going through a tube. He forget to read that the fat q hbb is tubeless . Dude. You always measure your opnions without knowing what type of driver quality. Distortion, and magnetic field. Maybe you should listen iem instead of having 3 iem and review them by graph only. Get a life dude

[@sharuraudio]

noob

[@paulosilva8200]

@Sharur1 ha ha. The man that has 3 iem and bags himself here to know it all. Dude. Get a life. And font be a internet hero. Stay this things face to face to see the results .

[@sharuraudio]

@@paulosilva8200 i live rent free in your head. you type PARAGRAPHs in response ot my videos that no one cares about

[@elasmojones]

I care.......................................but not much.

[@paulosilva8200]

@Sharur1 is not for anyone to care. Same as your content.

[@guybrushtwood]

lol. Crinacle watermark always. Get better champ.

[@sharuraudio]

cope

[@guybrushtwood]

@@sharuraudio put your beak away

[@sharuraudio]

cope

[@dawiddabrowski3279]

I have a 20 dol iem, and 300 dol, wtf you saying, this 20 dol iem sound crap

[@ВасилийПедалькин-ш8э]

you're like our stalker29218 😁

[@DaniilLoginov-b3y]

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[@ВасилийПедалькин-ш8э]

@@DaniilLoginov-b3y чё?