The Ferrari Market Is Shaking | Will It Crack?

Price trends for some mid-engine Ferrari models turned in the last three months. Models that saw stable prices for years took a nosedive, while prices for other models stabilized after severe corrections.
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Depreciation patterns changed significantly in some mid-engine segments. The 360 and F430 experienced a sudden large decline, pushing rates over the 10% mark. This is a significant deviation from the relatively stable trends that we saw before. The 458, on the hand, continued to flatten, confirming that they might drifting towards a more stable price level.
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[@fourwheeltrader]

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[@Surfingandy111]

Great videos, as always, I love the work you do. It would be great to analyze the air-cooled Porsche market, particularly the 964 & 993 models. THX :)

[@scottsilvestry3455]

Awesome. What’s going on in the Maclaren 720s market

[@almir645]

Huracan please.

[@fourwheeltrader]

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[@robin4046]

These vids deserve more views genuinely.

[@2f2f45]

Thank you for your very thorough, insightful and differentiated work Harald. Not everybody may comment every time, but we do consider ourselves fortunate that you compile, share and translate the meaning of this data. There is no one like you on that level. We'd be happy to see more videos from you also in the future. All the best!

[@maxamillion5711]

I have my f430 spider 3 years never had a problem 6300 miles super impressed with reliability now that it’s paid for almost I plan to keep it because I never thought I’d be so reliable knock on wood

[@LeoPiero]

I have my 430 Spider since 2017. I can say it was a fantastic investment 😊 They don't make Ferraris like that anymore

[@zeeshanhabib6180]

I wanted to extend my heartfelt thanks for the incredible work you've done on analyzing car prices and trends. Your in-depth analysis has proven to be extremely valuable in helping me determine which car I should consider next. The thoroughness and clarity of your report have made a significant impact on my decision-making process, providing insights that I wouldn't have been able to gather on my own. Your expertise and dedication to this project are evident, and I truly appreciate the time and effort you've invested. Thank you once again for your outstanding work. It has been immensely helpful.

[@fourwheeltrader]

Thanks for the kind words. It is great to hear that the videos are helpfull.

[@domenicoforte1799]

Good video I witnessed a BCA online auction where the auctioneer was getting excited at the thought of selling a Red F355 with 30k miles for over £70k plus it sold unseen with just an online description on the bodywork which was poor. So 100% the F355 has gone crazy and I think it’s US driven. Excellent work. Any chance you can do another 328 or 308 video

[@billtaylor8655]

I’m sorry to hear that you’re dropping to every other week. However, I understand. It’s a hobby and I can’t even begin to fathom the amount of work which goes into each episode. Best of luck to you!

[@LeoPiero]

Once rates drop all exotic values will explode. Great video.

[@zetoch]

We can’t predict the future but I wouldn’t be surprised if the 355 and 458 continue to increase in value, as they are simply the best cars ever made.

[@peterstuart9755]

With most Supercars being financed, continued high interest rates will keep the 360 prices flat or decreasing.. Here in Australia the once A$180k plus prices are now averaging A$150k and negotiable. Some Silver ones are A$140..There is a premium for red. We are now very close to pre Covid levels.Although there are dreamers here who want A$200k plus, which is laughable..

[@AppletreeGreen]

Big fan of your channel. I am closely watching the Swiss Ferrari market. Although Switzerland is a small country, there is quite a big market for supercars. In general the price trends ar pretty similar, however on a higher base level of course. Fortunately there is an independent search portal which lists any historic price changes of advertised cars, which is quite insightful.

[@racingmylife15]

Where did you find the information regarding market prices?

[@ForgetfulFoot]

Ferraris like the 458 and the Porsche GT car are still well above what a regular enthusiast can afford. The people buying these high end cars aren't as severely effected by interest rates like people in the medium/lower income brackets. Unless Ferraris suddenly become undesirable. Prices will likely stay pretty firm.

[@BuddysDadd]

I can’t imagine buying an expensive car and barely driving it. Someone said their Ferrari has 6,300 miles. I’ve put 6,300 on my brand new Supra within 3 months!

[@RudyP18]

Yes but you have to consider the average Ferrari owner has more cars than the average Supra owner.

[@clyde5273]

why is it that your trends and predictions seem to either lag seriously behind by a year or more or are completely off the mark in Canada?

[@fourwheeltrader]

The data only applies to the US. I don't know to what extent it generalizes to the Canadian market.

[@clyde5273]

@@fourwheeltrader it would be great if you could start to also include the Canadian market situation in future videos

[@sarastroaster2457]

Thank you for another interesting video and as regards your frequency, two weeks will anyway be great ! A small idea for you: have you considered in a given video (especially now that you will be publishing every 2 weeks) to announce the topic of the subsequent one ? So people will be there waiting for it, it will become a fixed appointment for aficionados and rise in my view the level of attention. Just an idea. Keep up with the great work ! And hope next time you make front-engined Ferraris !

[@fourwheeltrader]

Thanks for the suggestion. I have sometimes asked for questions on certain topics/cars so i can try to answer them in the video. Perhaps i should give that another go.

[@chrisparker4940]

Thanks again for another Ferrari analysis update. I look forward to it again in 6 months and it will be here before you know it.

[@coreycohen6160]

Can you chart mileage for these cars also? I have noticed lately a lot of 430 and 360 cars selling with high mileage for a Ferrari 30k+ with many over 50k. This is obviously expected as the models get older, but if the clustering of cars for a period of time have significantly higher mileage than previous time periods this could be an indicate of not just a market price change but a supply attribute change.

[@fourwheeltrader]

The trends are corrected for changes in mileage to avoid exactly what you are pointing out.

[@bango123able]

Extremely well interesting! Thanks again! Would you consider a video about SLS AMG GT?

[@fourwheeltrader]

A full video is perhaps too much, but i posted the trends for the SLS AMG on my instagram page.

[@Poorschedriver]

That SF90 depreciation is horrific. I can't imagine riding $300k in 2 years.

[@speedracer8005]

Something that needs to be considered more seriously when calculating Ferrari models. Ferrari (more so than ANY other brand) in my experience, values are heavily driven by milage more than time. I played with numbers when shopping for my 360 and again before buying my 458 and realized that losing $2 per mile of value seems to be pretty viable. For whatever reason, Ferrari owners punish each other for driving our cars. It's on the mind of every (modern) Ferrari owner at all times.. Regardless of what they'll admit to. It's ridiculous.

[@DivineFrag]

Unpopular market videos being dropped makes sense to me, nobody is really checking for those less relevant market segments.

[@pedrovs_]

Hi! You’ve been mentioning for years that you’d cover the EU market, but I haven’t seen any videos on that yet. Do you still plan to do them?

[@fourwheeltrader]

The latest videos on the McLarens, Lotus Emira/Evora, and 911 GT3 include numbers for the German market. Videos on the 911 Carrera, Boxster, Cayman, and Ferraris will follow.

[@albertmyers7176]

Great vid. thank you

[@docmarc36]

I bought my Speciale because I love the car… these are fun to watch but I still enjoy ownership. 😊

[@vishc3577]

Great video as always !!

[@NoRedTape1]

All prices turn down except for the models I am looking for in the US: 360 CS or 599 GTB

[@carminecarreviews624]

I am thinking about buying a 458 in like December do you think that this market is the best to buy right now?

[@pc8134]

A Ferrari Market Update with no mention of the 812's or 812 GTS???

[@fourwheeltrader]

This video covers mid-engine models only. Front engine models have their own video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ-wo52ZaL-Aiqcsi=1CSjJHhtnJC34pCL

[@Zanzabar5]

Dont worry, you will make up for the low price with the rising maintenance costs.

[@lanceboullion9888]

Your research and presentation are incredibly valuable. Thank you for all your time and efforts in doing this. 10 out of 10! Much appreciated.

[@fourwheeltrader]

Thanks for the kind words.

[@EKNCW]

Can you do a McLaren market update, it’s been a while. Particularly interested in the 600LT

[@fourwheeltrader]

I do them every six months. This is the latest one of three months ago: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWeckHmdZth-passi=tJxVe4Ats72BTg2-

[@MikeK-vj1ye]

What about the font engine v12. Such as the 812 competizion

[@fourwheeltrader]

They are covered in the bi-annual V12 update. This is the latest: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iJ-wo52ZaL-Aiqcsi=euwnjKf0U4fxiGq7

[@rayhuge]

Update on C8 market ?

[@MTbone7]

Always great vids! How about some American muscle? Shelby GT350 please

[@fourwheeltrader]

I tried something on the GT500 a while ago, unfortunately the video did not do well.

[@millerlena3926]

Great video. Thanks for your work. European market would be amazing.

[@fourwheeltrader]

Thanks. I will include the first numbers for the German Ferrari market in the next update.

[@TinyBearTim]

Doesn’t really help that Ferrari has diluted their own brand

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

How about the California?

[@fourwheeltrader]

I included it in the front engine GT market update of a few months ago. Have a look at the car market deepdives playlist.

[@BrunoHeggli-zp3nl]

​@@fourwheeltraderThank you!

[@user-wo5xh2kz2k]

Do bmw m3/ m4 market

[@Voiceofreason99ify]

The reason for 430 /. 360 drop is because Lambo & McLaren’s dropped drastically meaning that 360/430 owners for just a bit more can trade to Lambo/ McLaren

[@cape34]

These videos may be misleading making think that only those brands have had price changes. It’s clear that the whole automotive industry have had a price increase during the pandemic and then a decline after. not only Ferrari or Porsche. Some brands more, some less but it’s a tendency of the whole car market

[@fourwheeltrader]

That's why the numbers are benchmarked against the rest of the market.

[@cape34]

@@fourwheeltrader now it makes sense to me, thanks

[@mattyp3119]

Honestly 360 isnt even a supercar its barely a sportscar anymore , so over rated its a lot like the 996 turbo Porsche, it will eventually drop like a brick because its actually shit