The Fetterman Massacre, 1866 | Red Cloud's War

[@neildaly2635]

I didn’t hear any mention of the dead bugler who was so brave the Sioux dressed his body with honor. Is this story regarded as false by most historians? Thanks for the great videos!

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

@Neil Daly It was one of half a dozen stories I left out. I probably should have included it. Indeed, Adolph Metzger's story is corroborated by the Indian and U.S. sources I read. American Horse (Oglala who claimed to have killed Fetterman) stated years after the battle that the bugler was one of the last to fall, standing around Wheatley and Fisher with their repeaters. It is reported that he killed several braves with his bugle after he ran out of bullets. Finn Burnett, a civilian at the post, also attested to the dignity given his corpse by the Sioux. The warriors probably viewed his use of the bugle as a type of coup. To have killed warriors with no apparent weapon was big medicine and worthy of their war honors.

[@evangreen9430]

I think the story is true. The battered bugle is on display at the Jim Gatchell Museum in Buffalo, Wyoming.

[@rexcolon5258]

The savages mutilated the bodies in unspeakable ways. Word of the desecrations was suppressed for twenty years.

[@carlreed6186]

The Bugler was with Custer at the last stand.

[@christopherleslie4593]

​@rexcolon5258 didn't the Europeans do the same things tho,? Wouldn't that also make them savages

[@sayntfuu]

I grew up in Sheridan, WY in the 70's and 80's. My dad and I took a series of lectures and field trips led by a local historian named Mark Badgett. He walked the Bozeman Trail multiple times. One of our field trips was to Fort Phil Kearney and another was The Fetterman Massacre location. We did a few others as well but those stood out. Excellent video.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Volume is a bit low on this one, but thank goodness the audio balance is still fine. Working with a new editing system. If it's too unbearably low, I'll reconfigure and re-upload.

[@kolepate7057]

It’s okay 👍🏽

[@childoftheeternalsky2382]

Works just fine, at least with headphones. Thank you for all the work pard.

[@genesishandboards]

I wish i would have been THIS intrested in history when i was in school 😅 these are highly entertaining and informative!

[@carlreed6186]

Many of the cowboys vs Indian movies had some truth but Hollywood being what it was there were a lot of inaccuracies.

[@mpista7182]

Charlie Russel paintings galore and western art in this are great !!

[@londonbowcat1]

12:00 1867 massacre is so.sad but hey

[@badguy5554]

I stopped at the sight of Ft. Kearny on a trip west. I read the sad story of the troops who were lured into a trap and killed. But this video has filled in SO MANY details I was unaware of. There is just SO MUCH history of this country...and SO MANY feats of heroism..... that we are sadly unaware of. Thank you for your effort to bring, at least some of this history and feats of heroism, to our attention!

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Somedays I just need to hear that. Thanks a bunch, partner! If you want some further reading, pick up 'Eyewitness to the Fetterman Fight' by John Monnett. The only eyewitnesses to the fight are Sioux and Cheyennes. It's interesting reading their accounts. Also, give 'The Story Out West' channel a look. He dives into the revisionism told around the Fetterman Fight and actually walks you through the battlefield itself.

[@stetson711]

Sad? They were there to kill American Indians.

[@stetson711]

Should have stayed back east.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Ironic, since the Sioux originated in the Appalachian Mountains and bullied their way out west.

[@badguy5554]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 And got kicked out of Northern Wisconsin by the Ojibwa (who are still there!)

[@larrymosher5045]

Thanks for the maps,that really helps show the regions involved.

[@FloydThursby-hq1hk]

Another outstanding presentation in your series of videos about the Old West.

[@londonbowcat1]

6:30 fake treaties

[@chasew3546]

Fetterman’s arrogance which made him a seasoned commander back east was what got his men killed that day. Heavily underestimated the last great horse culture which conducted war as a past time. Great video

[@grassroot011]

Also similar to that of Gen. Custer. Same kind of overconfidence and underestimation of his foe !

[@cecilysharrock678]

​@@grassroot011 mi

[@kls2020]

"pride comes before a fall"

[@beachcomber1able]

Why do you believe that anti Fetterman narrative. It's kind of obvious that Frances Grummond stitched him up in an attempt to vindicate her second husband and more subtly her first one.

[@scaredy-cat]

Easy to judge in hindsight, not an uncommon practice

[@JO-kp6lk]

Very well done video and well presented.

[@Toni62R]

The strategic head was Red Cloud, the fighting head was Cracy Horse.

[@meronlaststand6021]

The only reason that made this incident different is the strategic and tactics were both successful, unlike the Vietnam War.

[@wes326]

Hello from Omaha. A woman I work with is a descendant of Red Cloud. Talking to her is like living history.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Cool! If she has any insight into his life through handed down oral history, encourage her to writ it down! So much of that kind of history is dying out when it doesn't need to. Thanks for sharing!

[@mitchellculberson9336]

The day Red Cloud was born a weather phenomenon caused the clouds to turn red at the moment of his birth his mother looked up & saw this phenomenon. And that is how Red Cloud got his name.

[@rexcolon5258]

Is this true, twodogsscrewing?

[@greasygrass6469]

@@rexcolon5258 35:39

[@greasygrass6469]

Butn

[@arthurmosel808]

​@@rexcolon5258One of the stories.

[@carlreed6186]

He never tasted defeat. For treaty talks he traveled to Washington. Saw what he would be up against so did not join in the last wars instead worked for the best terms his tribe could get. He had some success but later gold discoveries led to the treaty being broken.

[@JoshHonaker-nm3ch]

Absolutely incredible job here explaining this Sir

[@johnnyjohnson1326]

Thank you for another great presentation

[@rollandchapin5308]

I've been in the North, in these type of storms. I believe he had a compass. Still an incredible, feat. As far as stopping in the daylight. In that kind of wind and cold. You take short rests and keep moving. Move a a measured pace, sweat will get wet, Wet will kill man and horse. Anyways there is a lot to it. Absolutely respect this feat. World class.

[@philipbrown6840]

PPP lol.

[@gratefulguy4130]

Compass would freeze. Be hard to keep it from that.

[@seansamuellee1352]

Very good Podcast. In fact excellent

[@robhead22]

Great video. Thank you!

[@JeremyDearmon-sp7ie]

Does any one know who painted or what the painting at 36:00 is? Thanks.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Frederic Remington's 'Friends or Foes', 1902.

[@superbuddyfranklin]

17:26 Beautiful shots of nature coming up.

[@bernacus5949]

What is the song and who performed it at roughly 3:20?

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Leete's Island by from the California Consolidated Drum Band. Hell on the Wabash is also a Hell of a tune!

[@BurnedSpace]

Carrington, for receiving plenty of criticism for not being a COMBAT veteran, displays exemplary leadership at Kearney. He has a very competent understanding of indian tactics and combat prowess, and as such tries to instill caution in his senior and junior officers, who fresh out of the Civil War, are itching for fights. Had his officers heeded his words, this incident could have likely been avoided completely.

[@JamesBray-qm8gr-q3w]

Some accounts are that Carrington and his wife blamed everything on Fetterman who was dead and could not defend himself.

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

@@JamesBray-qm8gr-q3w🧐They did that because it was Fettermans fault..

[@evangreen9430]

You know that Fort Kearney is not the same as Fort Phil Kearny. Two different places. Carrington was not in charge at Kearney.

[@markbelmares7138]

Most young officers were confident, any American soldier was worth 10 Sioux and Cheyenne, such arrogance often ended in disaster for the army.

[@GodsHound444]

Lol

[@based_prophet]

Yea most these general was fresh west point the killing off the tribes was mere legal work for Yale and west point a testing ground the apache had guns n had home advantages Americans went good 800 miles 22 states over lol but if they came back u get to read about them many dint make it in history ... now that's bothways .... but needless apache eat raw meat the killing off the Buffalo all that was needed

[@stetson711]

Maybe the firearms?

[@skylarsoper241]

Yep they sure did , I would have treated any man in combat as a pure 1for1 fight

[@rickbowen3637]

​@@GodsHound444 6⁶ 0

[@geneotrexler8246]

Good video 👍🏼

[@thatguyinelnorte]

Good clear report.

[@jeffersonthomas1269]

Efficient job, well thought out and backgrounded with substantial foundation.

[@ronniejohnson1302]

It was Crazy Horse that lead the decoys.

[@grassroot011]

And a basically unknown or heralded feat by the courier. And many more of these types of heroic escapades no doubt yet to be told. Thanks

[@arthurmosel808]

Unknown only if you didn't study the Plains Indian Wars.

[@alexhatfield4448]

Hey I hope you know awesome biopics like this totally make my job doable and life more liveable. What did people do before they could listen to educational stuff at work for 10 hours a day?

[@Fred-ve3eu]

Good video thanks

[@boblowinske1616]

It took a very brave man to go out into that storm and ride for help, knowing he would have no hope to live if the Indians saw him.

[@perspellman]

Lakota!

[@rmcfete]

Carrington’s horse was a pure bread arabian stallion considered to be the best horse in the west

[@jeffersonthomas1269]

Rarely are block houses mentioned. Between all of the forts there had to be block houses. Sanctuary in between the Forts. This was done in 1759 heading to Pittsburg in the French and Indian war, long established method of protecting their investment. so I bet they did here too. What went on in those places? Were they scared or had they turned it into a trading post/brothel ?

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

@Jefferson Thomas I know what you're referring to and I am unsure when block houses became obsolete. Fort Phil Kearny was a regular stockade with wooden walls; same with forts like Laramie and Bent. Block houses seem to be used in the east. I grew up in Texas, so our forts were open (Concho, Griffin, Davis etc.). Possibly because there was less threat of an assault because the terrain surrounding western forts were prairies. An interesting question. Sorry I don't have a solid answer for you.

[@mountainmantararua8824]

Just as an aside, we here in NZ had block houses and some still remain the pioneers would run to them when the local Māori were on the war path. There is still one of them North of the capital, Wellington. Cheers from NZ

[@arthurmosel808]

No evidence exists that block houses were used. Timber to build them was no always available.

[@scaredy-cat]

A smart soldier (Custer) would have learned from Fedderman

[@seancarney2033]

Unfortunately SMART he was not since he graduated last or 2nd to last ftom West Point! However he was extremely LUCKY hence Custer's Luck carried him through the entire Civil War right up to that Montana hill @ the LBH. Tragically it also ended their the lives of 268 troopers of the 7th Calvary! RIP

[@matthewmaguire3554]

Boy and I thought Hollywood always made this stuff up.

[@carlreed6186]

Truth is stranger then fiction.

[@johnking6252]

I have yet to understand why Custer did not take greater advantage of this information. Pride or honor does not fully explain such carelessness. Just wondering.

[@sandidavis820]

I think Custer thought he only had to follow his own rules. He thought he was the best and no one else was as good as himself. In the end he found out that he was not better or smarter than anyone else, and he could be killed as easily as anyone else.

[@Orphen42O]

@@sandidavis820 The British made the exact problem at the Battle of Isandlwana when they underestimated the indigenuous people and showed extrordinary arrogance.

[@carlreed6186]

He made two mistakes. He arrived a day early. He divided his forces. Glory seekers seldom think with a clear head.

[@gallantcavalier3306]

Some accounts say that it was possibly Grummond that went over the Ridge and Fetterman had no choice but to follow him.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

Interesting! I had not read that. Would certainly make sense for Fetterman not to split his force.

[@31terikennedy]

What interesting about Red Cloud, once he signed the treaty, he lived by it and never went to war again Treaties worked.

[@sandidavis820]

It worked part way, Red Cloud, kept his word, but the whites still kept murdering Native Americans and pushing them to crapper reservations, stealing their children, to turn them "white". The government broke one treaty after another another and even now the Native Americans are treated like second class citizens. Have you ever seen any of the reservations and have you heard people b*tch about the Native Americans being the only ones to be able to own the casinos in Oklahoma??? I have!!! It is really sad to see a once proud people treated the way they are and have been since their land was invaded by the people who think they are superior. I have Native American Blood along with Irish, Scottish and Dutch, so I know how things are and have been.

[@31terikennedy]

@@sandidavis820 So how did it work for Red Cloud and not for other Indians? Indians were a warrior based society that sought and thrived on conflict. That's why they were placed on reservations to redirect them to more peaceful ways. Some tribes got along (Red Cloud) and some didn't. When they left the reservation, they did so to follow the warrior way of raiding which led to murder and mayhem. Custer was at the LBH because the Sioux/Cheyenne were invading Crow land. Indian reservations are run by Indians and they don't have to live there. Indians get favor status, that's why Elizabeth Pocahontas Warren claimed to be Indian. Are you doing the same? You can join Burt Reynolds and Elvis. Do your homework, get real!

[@sandidavis820]

@@31terikennedy I guess you don't give a rat's behind for the Native Americans. And not all tribes were war like. If you choose to believe that I don't have any Native American Blood, that's fine, believe what you choose. I am Proud of the blood that is in my veins and I always will be.

[@31terikennedy]

@@sandidavis820 Nope some tribes got along some didn't. There are more Indians today than ever and they get special treatment So you're just like Elizabet Pocahontas Warren, living in fairy tale world.

[@sandidavis820]

@@31terikennedy I AM NOTHING LIKE THAT STUPID WOMAN, BUT I'M PRETTY SURE YOU ARE AS STUPID AS YOU SOUND.

[@eas40753]

Surgeon after a 30 second glance of the battlefield: “Yeah, it wasn’t possible.”

[@brycesuderow3576]

Sanborn was a union general flat in Missouri in 1864. He led one of the brigades under Pleasanton. I drove the rebels out of Missouri.

[@adriancozad8308]

Thats where Crazyhorse got his fame.

[@PorchHonkey]

Did you say surgeon Hines?

[@johnstacy7902]

Great video. Not sure why the Army wouldn't issue more repeaters. I'm a fan of the Sharp's rifle

[@arthurmosel808]

Initially the Spencers were issued; however they had problems with range and since they used a tubular magazine in the butt which was dangerous with a center fire cartridge.

[@cunderw12]

Because the color of our skins we were all the same to settlers. Can you imagine if we were raised to have that mindset that all white people are the same?

[@robinantonio8870]

Arent you?

[@danielblackburn1241]

​@robinantonio8870 not necessarily

[@parttysetzer6247]

Remember the Indians where fighting for there way of life and freedom because the Whiteman was taking their land it was sad that the Indians and whiemen couldn't get along because the Indians where here first

[@jjdjj5392]

No they werent. Theres proof now of other groups were here first before indians

[@86haylal]

@@jjdjj5392 who? In North America who ? What source?

[@umbertoongaban2892]

The white came to the Land and destroyed a beathyful dream of a people who were living in happiness with each other and nature.

[@jonisafreak3]

The white an didn’t just take the land they killed food sources and scavenged all the local natural beauties like river and lakes from native Americans. On top of that forced religion on them even after the fact.

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

Out of all the nations in the world, the Americans allowed the conquered a vast amount of land.

[@ThomasOneill-ih1ju]

It was easier to be brave going to war back then, you had no clue.. We know better now.

[@bradmiller6023]

You say the ride is un equaled give coedit where it is due the dead horse. I have a name for you that equals the ride Balto This was a well done video, but what about the "Battling Bugler" the only solder not mutilated, but covered in a buffalo blanket. He was so honored due to going into battle with only a noise maker and fighting bravely.

[@RonOside]

This is not an actual massacre. Your title is not accurate. The Union was armed and inflicted kills. They simply lost the battle.

[@user-bh9kq4lb5b]

Sad what our government did to the Native Americans.

[@grassroot011]

huh, not to mention what they did to the Americans. We did no torture that is known to this extent.

[@bc2578]

Sad what they did to each other, and to White people, which was all much, much worse than what we did to them.

[@mito88]

​@grassroot011 wrong + wrong not eq right

[@badguy5554]

Sad what the Native Americans did to the poor people attempting to start a new life there in the West. REMEMBER: The Sioux were originally woodland indians in northern Wisconsin before they were defeated by the current residents (the Ojibwa) in the middle 1600's. When they moved west, they overcame and killed the residents of THOSE lands, just as they had been killed and removed from northern Wisconsin. As the video said they had only been residents of that area for a few decades, so their "eternal claim" to that area is just so much BS!. They got what they deserved for their inhuman murder and torture of whites in that area.

[@mito88]

@@badguy5554 whitewashing is sad

[@ultrametric9317]

The word savages is - er - unsophisticated. Unless you meant the Wasichu troops :)

[@kennyg1358]

Who cares if it's sophisticated, it's accurate.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

@Ultrametric Savage is an old French word meaning "wild or untamed," usually relating to the forests (sylva, sylvae: Latin for forest). The term "savages" is employed with a bit of tongue and cheek when the narration switches to the Americans. Nake nula wauŋ welo.

[@silkkdread]

@@kennyg1358 yea accurate for savage Europeans colonizing and poisoning everywhere they go

[@Daylon91]

If u think about it from their perspective, they come into this land and are met with half naked fighting people and violence they cannot even imagine. Men being captured and roasted alive etc. Whites didn't fight as savagely as we did. We were called red devils

[@dougdukes1039]

Your Picture of "Portuguese Phillips" is in reality Jim Hawkins, Texas Rangers 1975.

[@rickbazzill]

Does Anyone Know If The Peace Pipe They Were Smoking Was Mary Jane..ie…Pot?

[@Mercmad]

I clicked on this expecting to see a phantom elected official who has disappeared from public gaze.

[@parttysetzer6247]

That another thing the Whiteman kept breaking there word to the Indians

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

It’s a draw on who broke the most treaties.

[@joelmclamore1898]

White man speak with forked tongue😂,ugh.

[@rmcfete]

True they broke every treaty made.

[@RonOside]

11:24 Ahh, I see the Hamas tactic....

[@cjthebeesknees]

If I ever get access to a time machine I’m going back to the early 1800s and organizing the native tribes into a mass defensive confederation and starting the industrial revolution early.

[@jamesnotsmith1465]

If I could go back, I'd buy Microsoft stock. 😀

[@nw932]

And then you end up scalped for trying to herd cats

[@GodsHound444]

Nice. Let me know I'll go with you

[@IrishCinnsealach]

You do realise the industrial Revolution started in Britain not America So if you want to go back and start it earlier it's best you go to Britain

[@stetson711]

Tried before.

[@LarsonPetty]

0:30 Damn, that is a HARD 46y.o.

[@kls2020]

Looks like the Fetterman from this story was also a great leader like the current Senator Fetterman from Pennsylvania

[@charlesfaure1189]

Spoken from a supporter of a party that ran Herschel Walker for US Senate.

[@kls2020]

@@charlesfaure1189 Your attempt at a witty response is "On Par" with Fetterman's attempt to perform the job of a Senator .

[@cunderw12]

It is true that Indians are prone to exaggerate…I thought it was proven that the Indians account of these battles was more closer to the truth?

[@davidwhite4874]

Hmmm....it seems Sherman was a freemason........John Pope, too....

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

I have theory about Sherman being the pivotal figure who changed the method of war in the west. Basically, he used the same rational he did in the South: dehumanize the population and wage total war. Definitely not one of my favorite characters from history.

[@davidwhite4874]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 That attitude and methodology bled into the industrial level killing of the 20th Century, certainly, and remains to this day. The American Civil War, with its unprecedented rate of horror and death, seems like a practice ground in many ways.

[@spyrosloukanikos347]

Any one no how many Indian die that day on Fetterman fight. I know Crazy horse was there, Also Rain in the face.. Was Cheyenne Two Moon there. Dull knife.?!?

[@stetson711]

I'm not sad for the soldiers, they're getting paid. Warriors fight for their people.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

It's good that most don't see events as uncharitable as you, sir. Fighting men deserve better, white or red.

[@stetson711]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 Thank you,sir. Fight on the right side.

[@stetson711]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 kill the yellow man? Better for you?

[@stetson711]

@@doorusthewalrus6903we die , you die , I am a American Indian. I want American money . Pay us like Japan and Germany And blacks for being slave s. American Indian?

[@cplmpcocptcl6306]

This Disabled Soldier thinks you aren’t too bright. Nor do we need you to be sad for us.🙄. Both sides were paid. Just in different currency.

[@spacecatboy2962]

you mean those darn indians didnt keep their end of the treaty, who did they think they were, americans?

[@grassroot011]

No they just didn't honor their agreement same as we didn't in many cases.

[@bc2578]

People are dishonest and Indians are a lot like people, it turns out.....

[@mito88]

did you watch the video? many chiefs or tribes were not consulted or simply did not agree with the white man's treaty.

[@Master...deBater]

@@mito88 "White man's treaty"...lol!

[@stetson711]

You get kick in head,you have to start figh ting back,

[@larrymoton8504]

Manifest destiny

[@silkkdread]

27:10 all the same age

[@rick5549]

What a one-sided description from the white man's perspective. Read Dee Brown's book of this event if you want a more accurate and balanced perspective of this saga in US history.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

@Rick I like to remain as reliable as possible with my documents. The "white man," as you put it, left written records. I don't like playing a game of telephone with history. Dee Brown has his own revisionist problems.

[@silkkdread]

I was thinking the same thing the narration is kinda bias but I also heard him speak bad about the whites at brief times🤔🤷🏽‍♂️

[@ronniemitchell448]

@@doorusthewalrus6903 I'd like to know what you are calling 'revisionism' by Dee Brown.

[@meronlaststand6021]

Just heard the true incident of red cloud war and it was so tragic of all the human lost at the battel and most of all, the incidence could be said as first test of Vietnam war.

[@waynee1357]

Custer would have won this battle!

[@robinantonio8870]

Lol

[@rmcfete]

You are delusional. 1000 braves vs 126 men please get a brain

[@Dorian-k1s]

The victor re-writes history-:Winston Churchill

[@sdw2is]

Your description of the battles perpetuates the lies told by Caringtons wives.

[@teenieneenie630]

Geez...after all these years your still calling the Natives "barbaric foes"?Funny...

[@kennyg1358]

Too bad the tribes weren't a little more curious. If they had used more brain power on finding out about the Europeans they may have discovered how overmatched they were and sought peaceful coexistance.

[@doorusthewalrus6903]

@Kenny G Old ways die hard. In the 1600s, Chief Powhattan sent a representative with the English to meet Queen Elizabeth. Before the representative departed, Powhattan gave him an oak staff and told him to make a notch for every English warrior he sees. When the representative returned, he said the English were more numerous than the trees of the forest. They knew, some of them didn't care.