The Flat Earth by Akila Aipa and Kelly Slater - Wave Type, Sizing and Fin Setups with Kevin Schulz

[@arrzfr]

Firewire did a great job getting this kid on board! Great presentation.

[@firewiresurfboards]

Kevin is one of our favs. Super respectful, great surfer, and knows all the best donut spots in San Clemente.

[@bonsummers2657]

@@firewiresurfboards Donuts only for under age 35, and that's only if your body can handle 'em.

[@akilaaipa6698]

Mahalo Kevin glad you like the design and thanks for sharing your review. Aloha

[@firewiresurfboards]

Akila - so much appreciation from us all at Firewire and Slater Designs. Thank you for the opportunity to collaborate with you on such a unique design.

[@kevinschulz4178]

Thank you for the amazing craftsmanship in this board!

[@riddo1974]

So good to have Kevin involved on the FW team. Not only does he rip, but he is also very articulate and an all round good dude. Keep up the good work.

[@rafamellinsosurfe402]

so cool to have this kind of content to breakdown each model. congrats, FW team!👏🏼 keep'em coming!

[@firewiresurfboards]

Thank you Rafael. We're all fans of your work!

[@stevehills5753]

@@firewiresurfboards so bummed to hear this board is discontinued it’s one of my favorite boards Any twin 2 + 1 boards planned for the future

[@KM-co5mx]

Thank You! for explaining the fin setup and how it impacts how ones surf. It been a guessing game for me. I’m always looking to hear what other surfers use and why...

[@DeforestLCooper]

Kevin is the man! Stoked that he’s on the firewire team providing valuable feedback. I would have liked to hear him talk about the 5’6 since that is one size up from the 5’5. Also, keel fins seem to be on most people’s radar because they are bigger fins and provide more hold and drive, so it would have been nice to hear a little feedback on those style of fins. Other than that Kevin is ripping and the board looks so good! 👌

[@kevinschulz4178]

Deforest, Thank you for the kind words! I think I would enjoy the 5’6 as well. I’ll have to try some keels too! Love the variety that this board allows!

[@DeforestLCooper]

@@kevinschulz4178 Thanks for the reply Kevin. I’m gonna have to give one a try call myself. 👍

[@MaxTheSurfGod]

A vid like this should be the benchmark for any board release. Tons of useful info in there - well done FW.

[@firewiresurfboards]

Thank you, Max. We'll use this format again.

[@Guess_who_is_here]

What is the preferred size comparison between the surfer and the board

[@vilmatimmons6718]

Thanks for the info it helps us normal guys figure what sizes we need to get

[@kevinschulz4178]

Stoked to help!

[@TattooBradHawaii]

The earth truly is FLAT , so I'm happy to see other surfers that are flat earthers like myself! Perfect name for a board too, I'm sold, and gonna start looking online for one now! Thanks guys!

[@firewiresurfboards]

You can find this board online at most surf shops - Locals, Real Water Sports, OBBC, Surf Station, Cleanline, Catalyst and more.

[@chrro466]

I’m not sure wether you are taking the piss or not. ?? The earths flat ?? I’m thinking Kelly is taking the piss out of flat earthers.

[@chicolico9096]

@@chrro466 wrong!

[@maxamillion6958]

I like that "dance partner" metaphor. So many times u think to play the lead when it comes to looking for that magic board.

[@firewiresurfboards]

🕺

[@benemeraldmarkwell]

Koo

[@benemeraldmarkwell]

Hi ok ppkkj

[@markkoop6593]

Thank you Kevin for the very clear explanation of the pros and cons of this board. I look forward to hearing other reviews.

[@louisanthony266]

Looks really fun. Love the colored stringer down the middle. The shorter size would be fun at my local spot during high tide for sure. Gonna have to check one out.

[@firewiresurfboards]

The colored centerlines are available at surf shops only. Check your local. 🤙🏽

[@SkipperSurfReview]

Just ordered one. This was really helpful as I was going to get it in 5'6". Thank you, Kevin and Firewire!

[@kevinschulz4178]

Happy to help! Can't wait to hear what you think!

[@firewiresurfboards]

Come back and tell us how you like it after you surf it a few times.

[@SkipperSurfReview]

I'm coming back to tell you that this board is a gem. It definitely needs a little wave to start working properly but giving the fact that it goes under high performance department, it worked seamlessly well in small waves where I usually struggle with generating my own speed. I actually did a review. When you get a chance, please check it out kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmTLdJKior-nesk Cheers!

[@SkipperSurfReview]

​@@kevinschulz4178 Hey Kevin, I'm coming back to tell you that this board is a gem. It definitely needs a little wave to start working properly but giving the fact that it goes under high performance department, it worked seamlessly well in small East Coast waves where I usually struggle with generating my own speed. I actually did a review. When you get a chance, please check it out kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmTLdJKior-nesk Cheers!

[@SkipperSurfReview]

@@firewiresurfboards I'm coming back to tell you that this board is a gem. It definitely needs a little wave to start working properly but giving the fact that it goes under high performance department, it worked seamlessly well in small East Coast waves where I usually struggle with generating my own speed. I actually did a review. When you get a chance, please check it out kzbin.info/www/bejne/qmTLdJKior-nesk Cheers!

[@ed1pk]

1:42 With the volumes, we should know what he weighs. Anyone know how much Kevin weighs and his height? Also what thickness wetsuit at the time of surfing. That alone could add 10lbs.

[@paulosampayo673]

that is a good question

[@juandbasave3070]

I have had mine for a couple of weeks now. Ended up going up 2 liters and was wondering how a smaller one would go. I am glad i made that choice in picking the right size for me. Also, you should try the Rob Machado 2 + 1. It works really well. The trailer is a little bit larger than the MR one so it makes it even more stable.

[@kevinschulz4178]

Juan, glad you are enjoying the Flat Earth! I’ll have a go with the machado fins as soon as I can get my hands on some!

[@jasong2729]

Great review! I'd love to hear you do the same for the Dominator 2 as there's quite a difference from the 5'4" to the 5'6"

[@kevinschulz4178]

Hey Jason! Here is a breakdown of the Dominator II: m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaO1ZGeGlNCUeKM -kevin

[@WoolyTV]

Nice review. Just got mine to review as well and I really wanted to hear what you had to say about the fins. I will start with a 2 + 1 after watching this - thanks. Glad I went up 3L from my 'performance' boards. Yeewwwwwwwww Wooly

[@sheldonvideos]

Doesn't look like you've done the review yet. I was wondering how going up 3L worked out for you.

[@WoolyTV]

@@sheldonvideos 2 more surfs and its done. Glad I went up as the board goes amazing and doesn't feel any bigger than one of my 'normal' boards. My shortboards are usually 6'0" - 6'1" and 33 - 34L, I went the 6'0" 36L Flat Earth and its perfect. There is a couple of waves on my IG @wooly_macpherson_surf_coach

[@rickymo76]

Great review Kevin! Very interested in this board..My normal go to boards are 5'7 and 5'9 both are 31 and 31.5L epoxy for small to head high and a bit over. I'm only 153lbs but I like the extra volume for paddling and getting into a wave ( I'm 56 y/o but good shape). I have trouble these days with HP shortboards maintaining speed after hard turns, so doing more of a hybrid thing with more foam, softer rails, and wider boards. So...your (and Firewires) recommendation on this board...Is it more of a hybrid board or HP shortboard, or?? And if I were to get one you guys say the 5'8 or 5'9? Mahalo!

[@LineupWebstore]

Looks rad, I will try it this week!

[@jachambalan]

Dang, just rewatched this-I bought the board a year ago and wished I had watched the video till the end a year ago when the kid absolutely drops the bomb by saying Kelly likes it with two fins 💣

[@hawaiiansouthshore]

Awesome Review.!! I rode mine country FCSII Power Twins ...normal volume...super loose and had a hard time controlling it. Next Day surf town...2'-3' as 2+1 felt better but..like you said...I need to go up a few liters on volume. Maybe then I'll get the extra drive I like.

[@kevinschulz4178]

Extra volume seems to help with the Flat Earth!

[@firewiresurfboards]

Kelly surfs his one liter above his normal volume.

[@RedRoulette]

Hi, super nice video thanks! I'm interested in buying a Flat Earth. I have a question, I'm an intermediate surfer 192cm tall and 95kg weight. For now I have a 7 'Seaside & Beyond. I was thinking of taking the Flat Earth 6'4 "and I wanted to know, if the board helped in anticipating the start on the waves. The wave size here is approximately between 1.5m and 2m (Mediterranean Sea not Ocean: D). Thanks for the attention F.

[@davydtolyarenok3704]

Hi mate, just had 1st surf in Mediterranean on flat earth 5’9”. The board definitely requires dial in, paddling and catching the waves is quite hard (harder than typical daily driver, like pyzel phantom CI og flyer etc), you need to be really in the pocket . The board is extremely nimble and love pocket (honestly you cannot ride it in a shoulder , at least on our Mediterranean wind swells) Overall I got exactly what I want, a craft, which pushes me to be a better surfer, although it is quite a hard way 😉

[@cedricvasseur7022]

Great review. Thanks you to be not so "only a pro rider can understand". I'd like an advice on sizing. I'm 5'10 ,154lbs and surf a 5'10, 30.3l Merrick dumpster diver as my beachbreak summer surfboard . What about a 5'8 flat earth?

[@shayneferber]

2 Questions for Firewire Surfboards - 1. It seems like the number of shortboard models offered by Firewire has been recently reduced with the website update. Is this the end of all the older models not listed on the website? And 2. Any idea of when you will have increased inventory? Thanks!

[@firewiresurfboards]

Thank you for this question Shayne. The number of models has been reduced because of all the demand for each of the new models. In order to make the most popular boards available to everyone who wants them, we had to make less of some of the older models. Stock has been an issue because so many people have been surfing over the past six months as schools, offices and team sports have been closed. We're doing everything we can to get stock levels up soon. Give us a couple months, please. Thanks again for asking this question, because we know it's on everyones mind.

[@ThomasPugmire]

6ft and 210 lbs. Looking at a flat earth that's 6'2" with 40L volume. I had a 6'0" that was roughly 25L and that sank way to much and felt mushy even in slightly larger surf (4-5). Is the 6'2" 40L a good option? Looking for something that will be fun on small days and bigger days (5-6ft max)

[@Guess_who_is_here]

So does a thruster work on the board

[@pas9695]

I ride a Dominator 2 with 2+1 and what you describe and show fits exactly what that board feels like. Persuade me I should get something similar. I have waves that depending on the tide go from waist high to overhead and firing in 15 minutes. Can this handle that kind of change better than the Dominator 2, which gets a bit squirrelly in overhead firing waves?

[@coreyfunai7426]

Hey Kevin, thanks for this video, I’m riding a 6’2”/40 L just got it recently secondhand. Rode the 2+ one and I didn’t have enough drive. I just put in a thruster center. Your thoughts, or anybody thoughts, on it being used as a traditional thruster, just for input/RnD sake. Also looking for a 6’4”😊

[@davidcallaway5697]

Hi, I'm really tempted by this board, but I was wondering if you felt there was something about the design of the board that makes it particularly special as a 2+1, because can't you just stick a pair of 2+1 fins in any model and feel the skateiness. I've got a Sci fi 2.0 that I find so user friendly, that I've got to wonder if I really need a Flat earth too...except I wants it.

[@alikajohnson9250]

6:28 what's your favorite band and book?

[@kevinschulz4178]

Akila, favorite band is Boston... favorite book is Relentless by Tim Grover!

[@alikajohnson9250]

Rad. Boston I know but I'll pick up relentless.

[@ryanyonamine560]

What twin set up would you recommend? I been riding the board as a 2+1 but I would really like to try it as a twin and am not sure the best fins to sample for it.

[@jamesdouglas657]

Thanks bro great info. Need more vids

[@dinscheholymoly7903]

Thank you for this review, great surfing, great Board, Mabye next choice yeew

[@wesleyrichardson2171]

Have you tried it with keel type fins ?

[@maxfieldmiles3816]

For reference what is Kevin's height and weight ?

[@jonnyjulian2248]

Great review and mahalo for the detailed perspective on this Flat Earth. I live next to Honolua Bay and Windmills in Maui. How does this FireWire stack up in driver points and barrels? How do you think it would handle if I went up a few liters with this thing if the waves were day 4-6 feet Hawaiian?

[@dkilla01]

how does it compare to the Dom 2?

[@kevinschulz4178]

The 2+1 fin setup is the biggest point of difference, giving the board more of a 'twin fin' feel, where the Dominator II has the more traditional thruster or quad feel. The rail on the Flat Earth is also more tapered and pinched, compared to the Dominator II's more round rail. I absolutely love both models, as both handle a very wide variety of surf! It is a complete personal preference as to how you want a board to feel under foot.

[@filimana]

I'm 6'2 tall, what would be the ideal meassure for me?, thanks bro!

[@taistates8494]

Going to try this board this year. I’m trying to figure out what FCS2 fin setup to go with. Any ideas?

[@vikingdaytrip4447]

Great review and BIG MAHALO! You sealed the deal Kevin and I'ma get one today! Cheers!

[@vikingdaytrip4447]

BTW excellent surfing! Ripping brother!

[@vikingdaytrip4447]

Just pulled the trigger on a 5-8 with Futures from Surf Station in Florida. You're selling boards Mr. Schulz!

[@kevinschulz4178]

So stoked I could be of help! Happy surfing and I can't wait to hear what you think!

[@johnjennings7744]

Do you know if they are going to make flat earth in ibolic construction?

[@MalcolmMersham]

Hey Kevin, pin twins seem to be the rage. More flow and go. Daily driver?

[@kevinschulz4178]

Malcom, I’ve been riding this board almost every day in a wide variety of surf! Definitely a daily driver. Twin pin for the win!

[@OriRam]

@@kevinschulz4178 Great review. Kevin, if you had to choose between Flat Earth and Dominator 2 for 1-4' weaker waves, which one will you grab? Which is more fun? Thanks

[@tardigrader88]

For someone who rides a 5'5 hydroshort and a 5'2 Rob dim seaside, would the 5'3 be a good size for this board?

[@kevinschulz4178]

Hey Noah! Again, this is personal preference, but I recommend going up 2 liters! I believe a 5’5 hydro short is 24.1L? I think the 5’5 Flat Earth @ 25.9 liters would actually feel good under your feet. The way the rails taper on this board let the rails sink into the water easier and the twin fin + 1 allows for plenty of maneuverability!

[@shannonyoung5382]

Is the Flat Earth the black twin fin board that Kelly rode at the Billabong Pipe contest? If it was... I noticed that Kelly’s twin fins had his Slater logo on them. Is he or will he be following suite with Rob Machado & coming out with fins for his board’s in the future? You were lighting it up on both board’s!!! 👊💪💯🔥

[@kevinschulz4178]

Shannon, I am unclear as to what he was riding at the pipe event or the fins that were in the board... thats a question for the man himself! I am glad you enjoyed watching! Kevin

[@firewiresurfboards]

Hi Shannon - The board Kelly was riding at the Pipe contest was a prototype by a friend in Bali named Mike Wu. Kelly is always experimenting with a variety of shapes from many different designers, and the same holds true with fins. He's been constantly tinkering and experimenting for as long as anyone can remember.

[@vickikournikova9181]

Aloha Kevin, is there a 5-6? Why didn't you try the 5-6 instead of 5-7? How do you think going up 1 liter would feel vs going up 2 liters? The review was great!

[@andreausailpc]

Hey Kevin, that you for the review it really help! Have you tried the board as truster ? Just curios if it works and how. Thx

[@kevinschulz4178]

Andrea, I haven’t put a ‘true’ thruster in this board yet... only 2+1. But the beauty of this board is that you have that option. A regular thruster will give you more of a traditional shortboard feel, the twin will give you that quirky twin fin slide if you want it!

[@marycain7763]

Hola, Kevin! Using my madre's account to comment. (long story) Why do you think the flat earth needed you to go up in volume? Was the tail sinking too much and didn't perform? Curious to know your thoughts....

[@kevinschulz4178]

Hey! It was not so much that it was sinking... but the 2+1 setup was much more loose than a traditional thruster at a lower volume, therefor I jumped 2 liters to account more for 'hold' but still have that 'twin fin' feel! The rails on this board are relatively tapered from the center of the board making them more pinched down vs round. Hope that information helped! Kevin

[@marycain7763]

@@kevinschulz4178 did you ever consider changing the fins? sizing up in fins or fins with a larger surface area or larger trailer?

[@marycain7763]

NVM...After watching the video again you do a great job of explaining it all.

[@stevemorris9154]

Thank You Kevin for the Review- I am currently on a "No Brainer" surfing typically Uppers/Barbed Wires. Any thoughts on transitioning to a "Flat Earth" as opposed to other Slater Designs. Level is low-intermediate. Thanks- Steve

[@kevinschulz4178]

Steve, quite a few of the above clips were actually filmed at barbs/uppers/cottons area. If you were to jump from a No Brainer to a Flat Earth, you're going to notice that the FE has a bit more rocker than the NB and also a more tapered rail line... and of course, the 2+1 fin setup in the FE will give you that 'twin fin feel' but with an added smaller center fin for stability. If you are surfing the areas you mentioned, I would highly recommend the Flat Earth, as it is a playful, quirky board in that style of wave. It would compliment the No Brainer nicely.

[@firewiresurfboards]

@@kevinschulz4178 😀😀

[@stevemorris9154]

@@kevinschulz4178 Thanks Again- really appreciate the input :)

[@richardbaum3684]

great info thx for sharing.

[@joseande9627]

How does it go in small grovel conditions? and how does the flat earth compare to a standard high performance board for the wave range you were testing the flat earth on?

[@clo3342]

The 6'2 could be a step up? Nice review. Thanks !

[@Cornishfishing]

Really well said I went up in volume like you said can’t wait to get on it just need to decide which fins now 😅 what do you think about the power fins compared to the MR ?

[@christopherhewitt9091]

Great video! Do you think the AMK fins would go good?

[@cedricvasseur7022]

Looks like a very interesting shape ( really close to Aipa's winged twin). What about a Firewire Helium construction ? I guess that could be really nice in smaller wave. Please Firewire, I want one in Helium !!

[@babbonatale9071]

Can I use it with a thruster setup for hollow/good waves?

[@kevinschulz4178]

Absolutely! However, I do recommend riding it as a 2+1 in hollow good waves. I did yesterday and had an absolute blast on it!

[@babbonatale9071]

Thank you ! You are very kind!

[@deluxairhead]

Great surfing dude........

[@Surferdude965]

What would you recommend for future fins on a 6:4 flat earth Kevin?

[@rodneyevans4876]

any future fin recommendations? I've been riding akila aipa's with a trailer and it still feels very slidey. I'm 5'10 (135), 5'6 board.

[@bless590]

Hey I’m 5’6-5’7 around 120-125lbs intermediate surfer, what size would u recommend for the flat earth?

[@josesnowsneves5132]

Kevin, great review. I do have (a lot)...2 questions for you: it is a good paddler (easy to catch waves...it is because at 47 years old - and not a professional surfer :) - this is important aspect for me) ? Then #2: I am riding a 5.9 AM Neck Beard 2 with 29,4L ...from your review I would say that I should go for the 5.9 with 31.7 liters, is that correct ? I am just a bit afraid it can somehow "float to much" (for example I have just tried the Dominator 5.10 at 33 liters from a friend and I could not make the turns because the board rail was not " entering" in the wave). THANKS

[@kevinschulz4178]

Jose, 1) this board paddles incredibly well, lots of foam in the chest and tapered off into the rail line. 2) in my experience, the extra 2 liter jump in this board made a huge difference for the better. Because of it being a 2+1, it is more loose feeling, so even with added liters, I was still able to push the board around! Hope that helps!

[@danjohnson3756]

How does the board paddle? Does it work well in 1ft or groveling conditons

[@sydrandell9081]

Would this be a Good board to transition from a twin fin to a 2 + 1

[@808bboarder]

Thanks for the breakdown Kev. Really appreciate it. Aloha 🤙

[@firewiresurfboards]

🤙🏽

[@kevinschulz4178]

No problem, happy to do it.

[@babbonatale9071]

I am 127 lbs x 5,3' , what Is twin fins size I Better for me? Is it like thrustler size?Thank you!

[@TimberTramp]

Yeah #smithoptics keep up the athlete’s support!

[@byCanders]

I know you mentioned it’s better in chest to head high. Most of the time here in Newport Beach the sand bar/ beach break waves range from 1-4ft maybe 5ft on a good day. Would you recommend the board for the smaller surf as well or just more so for the bigger stuff? Looking to get my first twin fin for 1-4 foot Newport Beach waves. Also, I’m torn on sizing. My shortboard is 31-31.5L and was leaning toward the 5’9 at 31.8L but after hearing you should I go up to the 5’10 at 33.4L? I’m 6’1 185lbs and intermediate/ advanced surfer

[@kevinschulz4178]

Connor, I am 6'1, 160lbs (165 in a wetsuit) and rocking 28.4L, my typical board is 25.5-26L... With Newport being a faster, steeper wave, a shorter board might fit better into the pocket. However, the 5'10 might help a little more with paddle power (earlier entry) and glide through sections... If I were to choose for you, I would recommend the 5'10, just because you are going to get that 'twin fin' feel opposed to a traditional thruster hold. Hope that helps! Kevin

[@roberticop7]

Hey I really want to know about the Sci Fi 2.0 I usually ride a 5'9 with 25.4 liters, though I purchased my first Slater Desing board and I ordered a 5'6 with 26L do you think it will be too big for me or just right? Also how tall are you? Flath EARTH NO WAY IT EXIST :) well the board does now :) Thanks for the review!

[@kevinschulz4178]

Hey Roberto... If you typically ride 25.4 liters, than the 5'6 sci-fi 2.0 should be perfect for you! I am 6'1 160lbs. If you do end up purchasing a Flath Earth, I would recommend jumping up 2 liters in volume. Happy surfing!

[@roberticop7]

@@kevinschulz4178 LEGEND!!! 6'1 surfing a 5'5 and a 5'7 Insane!!! thanks for the support on saying I got the right board! cant wait to get it in my hands. The fact of the 2 liters in Volume is quite important! If you ever come down to the Dominican Republic let me know, we get some good waves here! Thanks a lot and Happy Surfing!

[@pullinside9]

Thanks for the review. The board looks fun. I think it's interesting how bigger board holds better than thinner lesser volume one. Usually it's the other way around in my experience. Is this board a strict Twin + trailer design? I'm curious if straight thruster set up for the smaller 5'5" would make it less squirrely. Or maybe bigger center fin. I'm 5'6" / 145lbs so maybe 5'6" stock dims is my jam.

[@kevinschulz4178]

Yuno, you can absolutely ride this as a regular thruster, but you will lose that ‘twin fin’ feel... I think the 5’6 stock would be perfect for your height/weight! Happy surfing!

[@checkmate7312]

I am 6ft tall, weigh 165 lbs, 35 yrs. now and been surfing off and on since I was 10yrs. old, what size board, litre vol., and tailshape should I get to ride in 2-4ft 5ft max surf?

[@kevinschulz4178]

You are almost identical in height and weight to me... depending on how much float you want, I believe the 5’7 or 5’8 Flat Earth would be a great choice for 2-5ft surf!

[@checkmate7312]

@@kevinschulz4178 thanks Kevin! So do all flat earths come with round tail fish rails like the ones you were riding?

[@bellemin-laponnazalexandre853]

Hi, I am 41, very fit, 5'75 (1m71), 145 lbs (65kg) and surfing intermediate/advanced level for 25 years. I have been surfing CI Fever 5'9, 25L or Neackbeard2 5'4 spine-tek 25L. Very happy, but. I now want a board to catch more waves with more volume. Which Flat Earth size should I go for please?

[@rodneyevans4876]

I think a 5'7 is a good option for you

[@bellemin-laponnazalexandre853]

@@rodneyevans4876 I did buy 5'7 some months ago. Very happy!

[@rodneyevans4876]

@@bellemin-laponnazalexandre853I own a 5'6 and it is one of the best boards I have ever owned.

[@krusher74]

Where is Chris from shred show buried!!

[@salterpowerdca]

Nice video and help to calculate the right volume. I am very happy with the Firewire SciFi 6.0 with 33.9l, so it is time to get the Flat Earth in my quiver, so which size should I choose between 5.11 with 34.2l or 6.0 with 36l. Thanks in advance.

[@kevinschulz4178]

David, you might enjoy the 6.0 @ 36L as it will be more “loose” feeling due to it being a twin fin + 1 even though it has a few extra liters. Completely up to you of course, but jumping up extra liters helped me!

[@stevehills5753]

@@kevinschulz4178 I know I’m a year late but I just picked this board up along with a mashup and a dominator 2…. Where would you say they each excel

[@kevinschulz4178]

@@stevehills5753 the dominator gives more of a high performance shortboard feel in small surf, where the mashup feels more “fishy” and playful! They are great compliments to one another but it truly depends on the types of lines you are looking to draw when surfing!

[@stevehills5753]

@@kevinschulz4178 thanks I really appreciate the feedback! This makes sense I’ve surfed the mash up a couple times now and really like it. Wondering how the flat earth will go, I’ve heard it’s fun in good surf.. but needs a wave not a small wave board Looks like a little swell next week I hope to get it out there

[@stevehills5753]

@@kevinschulz4178 do you primarily use large fins?

[@elbison7992]

Just picked mine up today! Got the MR’s

[@firewiresurfboards]

Which shop did you get it from?

[@kevinschulz4178]

Can’t wait to hear how it goes! Loved mine with the MR+1

[@scottpagett6770]

Kevin Schulz hi, just got mine too but in ended up with futures (now i have to get new fins). What do you recommend in futures 2+1? Got the board 2-3 litres more (5’8”).

[@elbison7992]

@@firewiresurfboards San Clemente with James. Bummed cause I should have bought the 5’8 and not the 5’9 :(

[@scottpagett6770]

Not sure to go the T1 (2+1) or the Al Merrick 2+1

[@leeshea822]

Hey buddy love the breakdown, have you compared the no brainer and flat earth as a 2 plus 1 test?...the pivot and drive out of my no brainer is very responsive like you mentioned on MR plus fin. Weighing up the odds of upgrading my NB to a flat earth as a small competition board...anybody feedback?

[@kevinschulz4178]

Lee, I haven’t had the chance to ride the NB as a 2+1. I will have a go on that set up next time I ride it. I would consider the Flat Earth a compliment to the No Brainer... FE has a bit more nose rocker and of course the winged round pin tail. I also ride my Flat Earth at 5’7 and NB at 5’5 (stock dims), so a bit more length in the Flat Earth might give you the ability to surf a wider range of wave sizes. Hope that was of help! Kevin

[@leeshea822]

@@kevinschulz4178 Cheers Kevin, yeah keen to try out them with the same 2 + 1 as I've found my no-brainer has a great pivot and holding power into the turns to kicking the tail for some slide action...but coming back stable and not having nurse it on each maneouvre. The wing, pivot point and nose kick on the flat earth will help ride through steeper sections or angles as compared to the flat rockered NB. Big thanks

[@rodrigostahl136]

It will be nice if he can tell us his Hight and weight

[@SustainableSurf]

Thanks Kevin , great breakdown of that #ecoboard !

[@monkeypawism]

So, are your boards customs? Also, I'm on a 5'1" Go Fish - you think a 5'3" Flat Earth be a good call or go up to 5'5"? thanks! '

[@benparsons734]

I’m 6’2 and 80kg what would you recommend ?

[@sashasoljan8346]

Hi -any idea when they’ll drop on west coast oz,

[@firewiresurfboards]

They're landing there right now.

[@sashasoljan8346]

@@firewiresurfboards cheers got one ! yeew !

[@toddbradley9184]

Hi I ride 36.5 litres normally you think go to the next size I think like 40 it sounds a lot what size ??? Thanks keep up the good reviews

[@chrischau6501]

I’m in the same boat. 😭 I usually ride around 36-37. Wondering if I should upsize to 40L but in my head it sounds huge.

[@madprof6719]

The dance partner thing is a good pointer to anyone wanting to try a twin fin for the first time, you can't really muscle them like a thruster.

[@firewiresurfboards]

🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽🤙🏽

[@kevinschulz4178]

Yep! When you find the rhythm of this board everything is smooooooth!

[@dezionlion]

Wtf do liters have to do with surfboards?

[@BLarsenPhoto]

Volume

[@javier5766]

How much do you weight?

[@olivierfiszelson1455]

What about keel fins on it ?

[@kevinschulz4178]

I have yet to try the keel setup! But by all means I encourage you to do so, I am trying to get my hands on some now!

[@levigoodman1656]

What skill level do you recommend this board?

[@kevinschulz4178]

Levi, this board is pretty universal... From a beginner standpoint, I would gravitate towards a Flat Earth that is larger with higher volume... and then dropping liters as skill level progresses. Hope that answers your question!

[@altermode]

How much do you weigh?

[@josephwiard6695]

Rhythm is a dancer

[@georgee8444]

I'm looking to get a better wave board for trestles and some of the other oc beach breaks. Would you recommend this or a hydroshort?

[@kevinschulz4178]

George, it really depends on what you are looking for in terms of 'feel'. The Hydroshort will most likely provide a more traditional shortboard feel, where the Flat Earth might have more Twin Fin tendencies (slide, pivot, etc...) Both are great options for the general OC area, so it is really up to you are after! Hope that helps.

[@georgee8444]

@@kevinschulz4178 thanks for the advice, I'm kind of on the fence. I ride shorter fatter fishier quad and other 2+1 boards in bigger surf it's just the twin fin factor. Does the 2 + 1 setup have decent hold through turns or will it slide out before you'd want it to if your not used to twins?

[@kingsofmayhem]

Great review Kevin...ripping

[@crisfaria3278]

Hello there, How about its performance in the wave pool? I'm not sure about size for the Wave Park kind of system. I'm 5'6, 140, advanced. Should I go 5'3 or 5'5? Thanks for your attention;) Cheers

[@firewiresurfboards]

Depends on which wave park. If its Surf Ranch, probably the 5'3. If its Waco, probably the 5'5.

[@brianliu6646]

Kevin, my standard SoCal shortboard is the 5'6" Sci-Fi (1.0) at 24.8L. Would you recommend the 5'5" Flat Earth at 25.9L or the 5'6" at 27.1L? Thanks!

[@wetsandy1540]

Finally, a Flat Earth theory I believe in!

[@uavfeliped]

Why do you use the United Nations logo?

[@יניבמורדו]

It’s the flat earth map

[@uavfeliped]

יניב מורדו too much coincidence, nothing is random

[@marvinacklin792]

The dude is a good surfer

[@jamesswanson1592]

Ripping flat earth !!!! Nice vid

[@BobbyJetty1502]

I am born and raised here in Ocean Beach San Diego and back in 1990 through 92 there was a board called the “wall slammer”. It looks just like the “Flat Earth”model.And if memory serves correctly I believe the shaper was Gary Goodrum. My dim’s were 6’0 18 1/2 2 1/4 Both thrusters. Those boards were so sic, I was bummed when I couldn’t get more. If anyone remembers that model please comment and let me know.

[@pedromq7807]

First thing is how dirty that wax is.. Akila would be pissed haha nice surfin man, mean air.. actually used he board better than most of people Ive seen riding it..

[@Tyler-sv4sw]

How tall is this guy? Weight?

[@elbison7992]

6’1 @ 160

[@kevinschulz4178]

Tyler, yep 6’1, 160... 165 on a good day (or in a wetsuit)

[@Tyler-sv4sw]

@@kevinschulz4178 right well I’m 6’2” 190. 5’8?

[@gustavobro2484]

O’h yeah ! Nice !!!!!!!!!! 🙂