The FNAF Movie Problem

The Five Nights at Freddy's movie has finally been released after 8 years of production issues, and it's already causing arguments over it's quality and more pointless debates about film criticism and fandoms. Let's discuss.
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[@Kaiser25]

As a non fnaf fan who didn't watch the movie, I gotta give it up to the folks who made the robots, they look spot on

[@ms.watakamis947]

I think Jim Henson’s company atleast helped with the suits

[@InkyCatTV]

They used Actual robots, which is nuts lol I've watched some behind the scenes things, and its so cool

[@Bobdudez1]

@@InkyCatTV theres actual robots and suits

[@InkyCatTV]

@@Bobdudez1 yh, Afton obviously used a suit, but Freddy, Foxy, Chica and bonny are just robots I'm pretty sure

[@bebe8090]

@@InkyCatTV They have suit versions and robot versions of Freddy, Chica, and Bonny that they use in different scenes. Foxy was just robot though.

[@colekiesler6218]

Now the only thing we have to wait for in 1000 years is when Markiplier finally makes an official cameo in the movie.

[@davidpalillero29]

Matpat revealed today that mark was going be the opening kill of the movie

[@IsaiahSenku]

Hopefully he's gonna be in the second movie

[@Pilligrim-gd3oe]

It's even more sad when you realise that Mark was supposed to be security guard from the opening of the movie 😔

[@stephqnos]

he was supposedly gonna be the security guard that was killed, at least thats what matpat says

[@smashyrashy]

Hes a disgrace to the fnaf community.

[@derekjamesjack92]

The animatronics aren’t being controlled by the drawings. I interpreted the drawings as the children’s “memories”. Abby just reminded them of what really happened through her drawing. If you remember the therapist at the beginning of the film, she explains that children learn and communicate through drawings and photos.

[@RancorSnp]

The one line I find very, very interesting is when Abby says "they can see you know, they know what you did". There's some depth in this line that I do not quite understand. I mean of course it is a reference to the games, where Afton would hide in a way that the animatronics were physically unable to see him. But the movie universe works under a bit different rules, so I did not yet managed to fully understand what does she mean by saying that they can SEE him now. But it's very very interesting and I am sure someone smarter will figure it out eventually

[@rebepicc]

@@RancorSnpthe drawing thing lines up with the fourth closet, it’s almost exactly the same. if you haven’t read it, william injects carlton (one of the characters) with a shot but i forgot what it’s for 😭 but it makes him pass out. when he opens his eyes, he sees the dead kids, (the animatronics they posses are some kind of amalgamation) and there’s papers and drawings everywhere (my memory is bad sorry) he begs them to help him defeat william, and they say “the yellow rabbit is our friend” and carlton says “no. he’s not your friend” and draws a picture the amalgamation then starts attacking william i really hope that made sense 😭

[@thelastattempt666]

It's still a dumb excuse for ending the film

[@KovanNova]

​@@thelastattempt666agreed.

[@MatthewDrummond-p7o]

Those kids died like 20 years ago so how would she know them when she wasn't even born back then.

[@b4ooks233]

One thing I think a lot of people missed was that mikes dreams were this movies versions of the mini games which I thought was a pretty clever way of incorporating them.

[@LtSoap]

Omg I never even thought of that thats awesome

[@mow_cat]

minigame without the s 😔

[@Tyfont]

Would have been better if he actually had to look around the Pizzeria for clues rather than going back to the same boring forest 6 times though.

[@fartsmella9267]

​@@Tyfontfr

[@eddysantoso1138]

@@Tyfont incorporating context into the scene make it pretty compelling but i agree

[@lorrainemurphy8168]

The matpat scene makes me 500% happier

[@Dr_Damon_1111]

Me to

[@aruce9]

Honestly that part was my least favorite part of the movie

[@Iroduckling]

i missed it because my friend said something to me

[@GeekZone210]

Facts

[@Dr_Damon_1111]

@aruce9 why there is so much worse to pick from are you just trying to be edgy for the sake of being edgy

[@Lucid_PZPL]

Crazy how people online have learned absolutely nothing from the Mario Movie situation. People still somehow think Rotten Tomatoes is actually important to the quality of a film Edit: Whether or not you like the FNAF or Mario Movie isn’t my point. My point is that people are saying they don’t care what critics think, whilst also getting mad at them for not liking the movie. This already happened earlier this year, and my point is that they should’ve learned from last time

[@kongboy4585]

Twitter moment

[@jkdjjj]

You have never learnt anything.

[@codershaper]

Exactly, critics don't understand fnaf and the audience on Rotten Tomatoes is biased. Imbd kind of shows that the fnaf movie is in fact pretty shit, and caters exclusively to the >13 fnaf fans.

[@coltonbarnes7861]

i read a rotten tomatoes review saying its like killer tellitubies and would never work as a horror consept, thats when i realized rotten tomatoes is just a joke

[@BlakeMoss-hm2ob]

Is learnt new slang are we just misspelling things in hopes we'll come off as unique? I just wanna know cuz learnt really threw me off and I don't even wanna read the rest of the comment.

[@PaperCircle]

These critics are totally wrong They didnt hear freddy say "It's Fazbearing time", that was oscar winning material right there

[@PepsiZM]

It would've been even better if Freddy said that 😹😹☝️

[@mcmoonball]

I loved it when Afton told Mike after he kicked him, "Looks like your gonna have to spend Five Nights at Freddy's."

[@bella_daze3092]

@@mcmoonball whoever came up with that line is pure genius

[@Dojafish]

I love how we are still using this joke

[@carmundo4476]

Best part was when William said to Vanessa “I am your father”

[@someguyinazoo]

To me the biggest problems were not having Wiliam enough in it,having Vanessa even be their,and have Mike be the security DURING the murders

[@YuyuHakurei]

They should have treated Vanessa like the Riddler treats his daughter in batman. Her existence in the plot does explain how Afton was never arrested for all of the years he was doing the murders though. William not being in it more was because they steered further from it being a horror movie. I'd rather get the scenes of Afton secretly killing people in the back or trying to cover it up. He doesn't die this late in the timeline either. The games also give the illusion that the shareholders run the company and even Afton has to listen to them. Afton is already dead before the first game so who would have fired Mike? I doubt Henry was overseeing much by that point. Still I don't really mind a lot of the changes if they didn't sacrifice the horror elements to build a pillow fort.

[@breanda]

yeah like why tf is vanessa there 😭 i thought they were gonna focus more on the first game?? i mean hey w/e, still a fairly good movie (imo)

[@JulianneStingray]

Mike was never there for the murders. They happened years ago by the time of fnaf 1

[@Ash_Lex]

Mike isn’t the security guard during the murders, the major murders happened in the 80’s, the only difference is William wasn’t springtrap yet.

[@darth3911]

@@breandaVanessa was written in as Williams daughter which means She was their from the very start of the timeline, all the way to Fredbear’s. Currently the biggest issue is they make Vanessa a police officer and not a security guard. This implies Security Breach happens before FNAF 1.

[@goatlover6312]

Funnily enough I didn’t really go into this movie with the expectation of it being a straight up horror movie but rather a comedy with jump scares and fan service. I think that mindset made it more enjoyable for me as I just sat there having a good time from start to end.

[@joseluisgonzalezsolis2933]

Yeah dude, I enjoyed it a lot for the same reason, it's not the greatest or the worst thing I've seen, it's really good for me

[@RancorSnp]

I question the sanity of anyone that goes to see a fnaf movie and expects it to be a horror movie.

[@alkrolyd]

...so you went in with very low expectations and were surprised when it exceeded them? I mean, fair enough I guess, I expected the movie to rely on jumpscares too. It did rely a LOT on fanservice though, that's why FNAF fans think it's the second coming of Christ.

[@fartsmella9267]

​@@RancorSnpwhy advertise the shit like a horror, base the film off a fuckin horror game and release it on fucking Halloween if it wasn't going to be scary 😐 seems misleading, I didn't go in with high hopes but I wasn't expecting it to be that bad

[@mcblazehunter6888]

​@@alkrolyd That's not what they said. Expecting it to not be a horror movie doesn't mean you expect it to be bad. This movie is bad at being a horror movie, but people can still like it for what it is, I actually liked the plot with the spirit kids and Mike, but I admit that it ruins the horror entirely and see why people dislike the movie because of it.

[@Rainbow_Sish_Kabob]

One of the problems with online media analysis is that most works of fiction are not irredeemably bad nor life changingly good. So it’s very easy to let your/other people’s expectations dictate how you feel.

[@FemboyCatGaming]

@benpodvia5744none. You can only looks at the film's materials and other opinions

[@Korvinian4601]

@benpodvia5744none, media is a subjective experience

[@cloudshifter]

Yeah I used to enjoy stuff on my own, objectively good or bad, then for a while had my actions dictated by reviews and grew alot more skeptical, now I am slowly starting to kinda follow my own gut instinct instead. Unfortunately for games there aren't as many demos so you prob are forced to buy or see something you may not like.

[@denjidenji9162]

​@benpodvia5744 despite what some may say, media is not "objectively" bad or good. Aspects of the production may be those things, but the work as a whole isn't

[@aaronwright485]

Some people seem to think ever movie is a 0/10 or a 10/10 with no inbetween

[@sevenseven789]

Matpat revealed that Mark was supposed to be the previous security guard, and even Mark himself said he couldn't do it because it coincided with his own movie filming (Iron Lung)

[@Van-Leo]

honestly im ok with him not being in it, i feel it would have been too strong of a start to the film. im ok with whatever happens in fnaf 2 though

[@shadowmaker8402]

A very cool thing I was thinking is a hilarious worfstach comedy lmao

[@chriskoloski32]

It's weird that mark couldn't sacrifice like....3 days tops to be in like 3 minutes of the movie. How's he gonna feel when he realizes actors and directors are often working on multiple movies and shows at the same time over months/years.

[@shadowmaker8402]

@@chriskoloski32 i mean the schedules clashed to much with both movies being filmed at the same time he couldn't sacrifice a day his words and scott wants hom in the sequel if it happens

[@aidencalhoun4893]

​@@chriskoloski32you do realize Mark doesn't have to sacrifice his time for us? He can choose to not be in the movie.

[@jeff9760]

I will say having my whole theater share a single braincell yelling "was that the bite of 87???" when that one guy's head got bit off was exactly what I expected watching a FNAF movie in the theater lmao

[@breanda]

LMAOOO sounds about right

[@jessy.kins.]

i screamed that while watching it at home 😭

[@fnafcooldude]

It was a girl, max

[@joythekyojin7880]

Lol some teenage boys said it while I was there

[@FearFul392]

It was my initial thought but i knew it wasnt. but my whole theater roared when Cory appeared

[@mudkipfanatic6354]

The fnaf movie having plot points that go nowhere or mean nothing by the end actually makes it a pretty good adaptation of the video game

[@bacontheuber2499]

LMAOOO STOPPPP

[@YourFaulty]

Unfortunate truth 💀

[@dantheartist47]

SPITTING

[@SobBaget602]

well 2 more movies coming

[@hmmmstvethebaffled7720]

I was hoping the movie would fix that and rewrite the story to be simpler, but that was only partially done

[@Lebroly-James]

My main gripe with the movie was the abundant repeat of the same dream sequence, the cupcake jumping for 0 reason, and the babysitter getting the worst death for basically doing nothing but being a get-away driver.

[@YuyuHakurei]

It's basically a horror trope that the last death in a sequence has to be the most graphic. She just happened to be the last one. Usually the writer would plan it out so the biggest butt fart would get that kind of death, but rookie writer so that was the best they had.

[@marleyv9108]

Since abby supposedly talked to the missing kids before, she probably told them mike leaves her with a babysitter so they decided to kill her off so mike had no choice but to bring her with him ao they could hatch out their plot

[@iamREALBeastaYo]

you do realise this movie flopped right

[@charismaticRogue]

@@iamREALBeastaYo wheres the correlation here

[@SilasWarren-s3v]

So all your problems are nitpicks?

[@thecowboybebop2071]

The theater I was in cheered loudly twice: 1. When MatPat said “It’s just a theory” 2. And when William Afton said “I always come back”

[@AegbGo]

I think the drawing thing was foreshadowed since the beggining, the teacher mentioned that the drawings had a big power for the kids, and that it was a very good way to express it themselves, which honestly despite being goofy or silly, it makes sense because after all, the animatronics ARE kids

[@LoveYou-rt6bx]

which is what i like, some of these people dont understand that like here is the thing: the "flaws" these people say can easily be explained and half the ones they have are in the game like ya know, them being CHILDREN so they play like CHILDREN hence the fort

[@ALE199-ita]

The movie is actually pretty good at setting up foreshadowing many things, like on repeat watch (because I wanted to have some fun with friends after watching it alone to see if it was good or very bad) many things are hinted at very ealry on.

[@Splat56]

Yeah that is true but that doesn’t change the fact that they pulled the cheesiest possible “bad guy gets teamed on by his lackies” trope That trope is already cheesy and stupid, but they did it through a single kid’s shitty drawing Eh, the movie was still fun and that end scene was still the best thanks entirely to Springtrap

[@SprongBobbles]

took the words out of my mouth. like seriously, the animatronics are (literal) kids. i also think that this movie sets up things that will be answered in the next installments, and i think people also discount that fact.

[@THE_STORM_THATS_APPROCHING]

​@Splat56 except that's what happened in the games the victims of springtrap appeared scaring him into the suit and causing it to springlock. This one I liked a bit more felt like they truly were getting revenge for what happened then just going boo and he "dies"

[@PlayerOne.StartGame]

This movie was really just a love letter to FNAF fans, and as someone who's been waiting over 8 years for this film I felt completely and utterly fulfilled.

[@SpringyGirl69]

Watch out. Twitter is coming…

[@justalochnessmonsterwithin518]

@@SpringyGirl69shut up

[@waffleauflauf4213]

Honestly I feel the same way. I've been a fnaf fan since the beginning and this was honestly everything I could have hoped it would be. I don't remember the last time a movie genuinely made me this happy, and them playing TLT's Fnaf song in the end credits just sealed the deal for me.

[@mehiloll]

Yeah, I don’t care what the public reception of this movie is. I’ve been waiting for this since I was a little happy FNAF fanboy. This movie will always be amazing in my eyes. Let them mald. Let them seethe. I don’t care.

[@iamsomething6151]

I agree! Even though the movie wasn’t perfect, as a fan I’m just happy it exists and that made it even more enjoyable.

[@EganCraft]

I actually kinda liked the scene where the animatronics are friendly because it was always weird to me that the animatronics were evil since they were just confused kids at the end of the day

[@danakrobinson03]

Right? I liked how it highlighted that they are still just kids.

[@boltogen5416]

Literally the first fan comics ever made delved into this stuff back when it first came out. The games really gloss over this, but yeah they’re spirits of KIDS, not adults. They mostly just want their lives of playing and making friends back, they don’t know what’s happening or why they’re like this now. To them killing is just making them join the gang like how they are

[@SteveCrafts2k]

​@@boltogen5416 Well no, they're killing because they want revenge. But yeah, the games barely dive into the animatronics, y'know, being ghost children. One would think a detail that important would receive attention, but it's not.

[@Sundowner13]

They aren't evil in the games either ffs, they tried to kill Michael in the first game because they thought he was William due to his PURPLE UNIFORM

[@YuyuHakurei]

I'm pretty sure they aren't put back together yet either. Which means they didn't completely have control of their forms either. They were basically operating on their need for revenge, but when they get fixed then they start showing their true nature that they had while alive. You see it happen to baby between sister location and FNaF 6. Afton doesn't really care about these victims to fix them so he basically just abandoned them for decades. So basically the movie did a terrible job by showing the animatronics this way. Completely ruined the vibe the first game had going for it. I would be more forgiving if this were the second movie, but not the first. The first game was perfect at setting the tone for the rest of the series. It gave future games wiggle room for humor. That won't be the case for the movies though. They have to fight to retain their tone now. It did do a good job of showing the events in the timeline though if you look past how badly it roasted mat pat for pretty much the entire movie.

[@thomasharrington1477]

the movie absolutely had it's problems but it's one I'd be more than happy to see a sequel of. This was the script Scott chose, the script he was happy with. It's meant to be unexplanatory bc that's how Scott works, he's set up things to be explained further in sequels.

[@breanda]

yeah like if scott thinks it works then thats enough bc hes the creator after all lol. it would be different if he had no say, but he does (afaik) :D

[@thomasharrington1477]

@@breanda "it's not faithful" is the only comment some people can give. Not understanding Scott's a creative and smart man who understand, not every version of your franchise has to be within the same continuity. It's why the books are wildly divergent from the games.

[@TacoBoyVR]

thats actually really true

[@kiratwo4u]

he's milking it in other words

[@alkrolyd]

or here's an idea: make a movie that can stand on its own two feet without requiring sequel movies to explain the plot of the original movie. Even in other franchises where the movies were always intended to be a series (e.g. the prequel series in Star Wars) don't intentionally leave you with key plot elements left unexplained. It's fine to leave some mystery of course, but as long as it's not something vital to the plot of the specific movie in question. In the Phantom Menace, we didn't know who Maul's Sith Master was yet, but we didn't NEED to know yet. It doesn't affect the movie whether you know or not who Sidious really is. But in the FNAF movie, it relies on the lore a lot without explaining things like who Golden Freddy is (you would be confused if you didn't already know that there are two Freddys), or what Afton's plan is (what, he pretends to be a career counselor to get someone who just so happens to have a child in their care with no significant other or family to take care of them, so he can lure the child to the pizzeria even though the child ending up there is a highly extenuating circumstance?)

[@manfredicadelo9604]

I liked when Afton appeared and said: "Zoinks Scoob! I, like, kidnapped some children in the 80s!"

[@Kebbo1992]

Today's lesson: Twitter was a mistake

[@PleasantPark-StarrySuburbs]

Yep

[@CelestialSage-ik2ze]

When Is It Not?

[@LebbyTalks]

Erm actually do you mean X?

[@entityontheinternet]

That´s the Lesson of every Day, every Hour, and every Minute

[@Dont_Give_A_Fuck_About_Life]

It is but at the same time it isn't

[@froppygurl07]

Tbh, the only reason why the whole “controlling the animatronics by the drawings” made sense, because the doctor in the beginning told Mike about how connected kids are when it comes to images like drawings which connected the movie a little bit. The sleepover scene also made sense, because of the fact that the animatronics are literally possessed by children and wanted to play with another kid. The movie is trying to show that the animatronics are clearly possessed by kids more than in the games which isn’t a bad concept and the execution is alright, but it could lead tonal whiplash instead of trying to gradually change the tone with some pacing. My main issues with the movie is William afton barely having screen-time, barely having the moments with the animatronics creating suspense as they try to get into the office like in the games, and Vanessa’s character is a bit poorly utilized. However, I really, really liked the film. There are definitely flaws in the film that could be fixed, but I definitely enjoyed the film and I recommend it as long as you don’t put high expectations on it.

[@idk-_-6081]

i believe the drawings communication is also in the novel

[@Electrical010]

If the movie had more of the horror thrill before the sleepover scene I think it would of been fine. Cause that's really my personal criticism there isn't enough horror.

[@thislink1519]

All of the confusing crap in the movie makes perfect sense if you are aquainted with the books... Most people who think they know about the series have not delved into the books, and thus experienced a lot of the films "problems" that true fans were able to avoid.

[@thislink1519]

They are less problems, then creative decisions meant to cater to the people who have the context necessary to enjoy the film. It lacks context on purpose to cater to the fanbase, who like putting things together themselves. Also, some of the "offness" of the characters & story is most likely on purpose, both as a call back to the indie horror it originates from, because it leads up to the twists, because the fans have the context to understand what the "offness" could mean, and because the fans find it intriguing.

[@ihatecrowbars3572]

you must be braindead. no kids that are trapped in a building for decades are going to be wanting to build forts. they had the opportunity to stuff her into a suit right like they planned to near the end of the movie but didnt when it goes against their motives of wanting the kid. The fort scene is awful

[@silashurd3597]

The Mario movie drama, all over again. I guess the moral of the story all this time was that when it comes to the Movie Adaptation genre these days, it’s always gonna be a divided war between the critics and the fans!

[@SnrubSource]

It's the same thing as the Mario movie in the sense of: - Critics say it's a 2/10 - Fans say it's a 10000/10 - In reality they're just 6/10s for various reasons, nothing wrong with liking it anyways

[@Sonic_the_hedgedog]

To be honest, I didn't like the movie. It is not a good adaptation of the lore. William Afton isn't Vanessa's father and they changed way too much from the source material. Also, I was kinda disappointed that Markiplier didn't had any role. As a FNAF fan, I thought it was a mediocre movie. Sorry.

[@FolstrimHori]

I look forward to pirating it

[@maas1208]

​@@Sonic_the_hedgedog He was too busy

[@luc5483]

​@@SnrubSourcecritics didn't say it was a 2/10, they said it was a 5/10

[@ItsAK9]

Bless you for spreading the good message that people's especially critics opinions are their own and people can enjoy something that other people dislike. It's getting annoying to see people combat negative criticisms in the worst and immature way possible.

[@doctorwhomst6459]

Hey, just one thing to say: if there's one thing I've learnt being a long time fnaf fan, it's that when Scott decides to adapt the games to another medium, the story and lore is often quite different. The Silver Eyes for example, is a vastly different story than fnaf 1. I didn't walk into the movie expecting an incredibly faithful adaptation of the first game. And that's not what we got. I could put in a bunch of examples, but I don't want to bore anyone who reads this. Thanks.

[@kingrobotnik6950]

This movie felt like it would have been better as a show, filled with secret codes and lore Gravity Falls style. This way they can have as much story as they want. They can have time to develop more scenes and give them the justice they deserve like the finale. You could have more characters and even use more references from the fandom like MatPat and Markiplier, and even tell the story in the VHS tapes way that truly brings out the horror in FNAF. Slap Tombstone in the credits with each season having a different song and you got a show.

[@DinIsSoCool12]

true

[@Lunapink93]

It’s most likey going to get A series spin-off.

[@itssigna2414]

Horror series are the best way to do anything lore heavy!

[@AstroBlox]

that actually sounds like a great idea, but shows are a bigger commitment and dont usually get as big of a budget episode by episode. I see why they did a movie cause if it doesn't go well as a video game franchise movie then they can call it quits after only one, but I think they did a phenominal job and there will most likely be a sequel.

[@christansanchez8686]

Yeah but I would love a show with the same secret codes like the one in gravity falls

[@Ireadwaytoomuch]

I say that the movie followed the plot of the Silver Eyes a little bit more than the main games. I liked the movie but I found the parts where Afton gets dragged away by the animatronics and they become friendly with the other characters was really similar.

[@meatloafer2762]

I was making the same connection. It seems they were trying to implement things from both universes in the movie

[@waffleauflauf4213]

@@meatloafer2762I kinda liked that honestly. Fnaf lore has always been convoluted, and with both the games and books having very different stories, I think it'd make sense they'd try to make the movies their own thing while introducing similar aspects of both to keep the spirit alive.

[@Delta21OnYT]

One of my first thoughts after watching the movie was that it seemed like a mix of the games and the Silver Eyes

[@Agent-tn8di]

@@Delta21OnYT Im glad im not the only one who saw this link between the movie and the silver eyes, so many references.

[@firdanharbima6997]

​​@@waffleauflauf4213eh them being Vaguely neutral is more better than hey good girl now we become happy family moment halfway the movie kinda ehhh? if you ask me should've been for the sequel for better suprise! they're still kids moment

[@cursed6346]

6:13 When I saw that the first night was incredibly uneventful, I was actually REALLY digging the direction I was thinking the film was going to go in I thought as Mike kept revisiting the place, the nights would slowly get creepier and creepier, and Mike would slowly learn the tragedies that went down in the pizzeria, and as mike is about to complete his last night, finally putting all the pieces together about what happened in the 80’s William Afton appears in the suit Mike heard all about, the suit that he quickly learnt was used to kill all the kids. William being there to kill him, so nobody can fully figure out what he has done. Only ever inviting him so he can see Mike be killed because of him out some twisted irony just like he killed his brother. The murderer of his brother being the last and only animatronic he has to fend off as he fights for his life until 6 AM Like I would’ve loved if it turned into a semi detective thriller! With Mike trying to figure out what happened while fending off the animatronics as they slowly become more violent! As his morbid curiosity would keep drawing him back night by night, hoping maybe his brothers death has something to do with these weird cases. It would’ve been able to incorporate the Fnaf 1 gameplay while keeping it interesting! As Mike figures out everything that has happened! With general audiences figuring out the story as they keep watching, and dedicated fans absolutely loving seeing Mike putting together all the pieces to the story they know very well about. I’m fine with how the story turned out, but I would be lying if I didn’t say I would have really loved to see the gameplay being actually implemented in a very interesting way.

[@KC_Garcia]

this actually seems like a nice concept as an alternate take

[@YuyuHakurei]

I just wanted the way freddy gets you when you run out of power to be implemented some way and that nightmarish look he has in the cameras. Ghost locking the door was a bad effect too. I'd prefer a giant ass security gate that covers the door until it's 6 as a better excuse to why you can't leave whenever. Also for them not to be our friends for quite so long. Would have been more impactful if Afton got the little girl and killed her during the movie when he was sleeping one of the times. Thus giving him a reason to become obsessed. More so than what happened to his brother that they either retconned or are lying about.

[@ramenking.v1]

this was what i also initially thought will happen! wish they took this route instead but i enjoyed the movie nonetheless. hopefully the next movie will be better and actually scarier, bc i was hoping for a stressful scene like in the beginning with the previous night guard

[@frescopino7866]

IMO including his brother directly would've been a mistake. His whole arc is accepting that they could never reunite and focusing on Abby is the right thing to do. It might be the hook of the sequel, Mike having the dream without actively trying to and being dragged to a second location/Fazbear Frights.

[@Ihavethekenergy]

​@@frescopino7866I think they'll probably make his brother Marionette, and Vanessa will be back in the 3rd movie as Vanny

[@hellomitchell]

everyone saying it was a love letter to the fans sounds like cope, it was a love letter to a children’s audience that was sprinkled with references here and there to keep fans eyes glued to the screen, worked for me but the movie was still terrible.

[@thesillygooseisloose]

I agree with you. I thought it was odd in the middle of the film how the characters started interacting and getting more familiar with the animatronics. I think one of the scariest things about the game is how you never actually see the animatronics move (besides when they jumpscare you). This makes the game so much creepier and it really stresses you out. In the movie however, it felt completely unlike a horror film and it was totally missing the dread of the game.

[@blodvamps]

the reason they did it becuz, they are not always gna be killer animatronics, they are children possesing animatronics, that still have minds of children, thats also why they liked abby and wanted her to be like them

[@briar2603]

you think it was missing the dread? damn. the whole time i watched it i was like "NOO!!! STOP IT!!! THEY'RE GONNA KILL THE CHILD!!!! WTF ARE YOU DOING MIKE, SAVE THE CHILD!!!!!!"

[@ერა]

​@@blodvamps No reason they did it was to attract younger audience for money, if you know a game's lore in game their children's souls as well, also technically it's been so long in both movie and game that their no longer children

[@blodvamps]

@@ერა so? It was a good idea to show ppl that they are not js killer animatronics that want revenge 🤯🤯

[@ერა]

@@blodvamps They could have done it in better and more interesting way

[@Mr.Pteranodon]

Welp Scott is good at taking criticism so if they do end up making a sequel hopefully it is watchable for all audiences

[@unosocongorra5779]

Fr Thanks to criticism we had FNaF in first place

[@Blanktester685]

not really trying to make everything something everyone can enjoy will just doom it to be mediocre, there's a reason m rated stuff exist rather then everything being rated e.

[@brodyoikle8739]

​@Blanktester685 yea I really think if they went M rated it wouldbe been a little bit better

[@noone-kk2zs]

Him ceasing to be part of the writing Team would be a good start

[@melynn_0355]

Lillard already dropped the fact that he was signed to a three film deal so there's bound to be a sequel in the near future

[@hi6575]

I absolutely enjoyed this film. The crowd in my theater was amazing and we all had fun watching it. While yes there are plenty of things to criticize the film for as with any piece of media, I feel that doesn’t take away from the experience one get while watching it in theaters. Also, a lot of people are upset about not getting a Markiplier cameo, but they fail to remember Mark was on the set of Iron Lung directing and quite literally couldn’t make an appearance.

[@Joy4everM0RE]

Which is a shame, cuz he was supposed to be the murdered security guard at the beginning of the film.

[@joechristo2]

@@Joy4everM0REI’m going to take this out of context.

[@aho9071]

Honestly I wish they put something else to reference him like I heard that there are other KZbinrs that had their face on the employee of the month board. They could’ve put tiny box tim somewhere or hide his pink mustache somewhere. Oh well

[@ghoulchan7525]

@@aho9071maybe in a sequel. if they are gonna make one.

[@TheBestCat1290]

I was sad that Mark wasn't in it but quickly gotten over it. I don't really care since he would have been in a minor role anyways.

[@iceyfoxplayz7739]

Is it the best movie ever created? Hell no. Is it the worst movie ever created? Definitely not. Is it a fun watch that does no harm with it's existence? For sure. I had a blast watching it, I wasn't expecting much, but I was pleasantly surprised.

[@froppygurl07]

I absolutely agree, people are putting *so* many expectations on movies nowadays to the point watching movies aren’t “just enjoying them” anymore, watching movies only make people but on a perfectionist impression and start throwing in many, many flaws like it’ll end the world. People definitely have different opinions, yes, but now it feels like everyone is trying to be critical for something harmless. Like, it isn’t a masterpiece, but dog-shitting on it like crazy and saying that everyone should admit that the film sucks is plain ridiculous. It’s not a fact for saying a movie sucks, it’s an opinion and not everyone thinks that the movie sucks.

[@SlushysSecret]

While the story did kinda annoy me, I think the animatronics were made absolutely well to the game and actually moved and sounded like animatronics unlike something like willys wonderland, nothing that organic just mechanical animatronics, and afton having a shit ton of strength when attacking was absolutely amazing, I thought the change of pictures changing the animatronics perspective on afton was a little odd but hey 4 year old kids posses these things so it does make sense, overall I think this movie is definitely better than any of the other animatronic horror movie adaptations released (hug not included)

[@mehiloll]

@@froppygurl07took the words right out of my mouth.

[@Glitchberry]

@@SlushysSecret The Hug is a short film, not a movie. Plus it is literally about a kid who gets dragged into a suit with no context of why.

[@SlushysSecret]

@@Glitchberry I know that it is a short film which is why I said that it’s not included in the collection of garbage animatronic movie adaptations

[@losu3334]

Once again people just can’t handle real criticism of any movie they like. Especially in fandoms. Honestly it seems like these people don’t want anything to be analyzed or discussed. Ironic considering the franchise is based upon those two things

[@losu3334]

If a movie based on something can not stand by itself apart from the content that it is based upon then it is not a good film. Film critics judge movies by if they are good by themselves not if they are accurate to other source material or have a lot of fanservice. A movie has to stand alone by itself.

[@alkrolyd]

It's honestly quite depressing seeing how FNAF fans treat this movie like it's the second coming of Christ solely because it makes references and cameos to things they like. This was the same problem when the BvS trailer came out and Wonder Woman was in it, all the fanboys were calling this greatest movie ever just because it had things from the comics in it. And apparently, the critics are the bad guys because the movie wasn't "made for them". Making this movie is meant to make FNAF more mainstream, so why alienate your potential audience by intentionally making it so you have to do research just to watch the movie? But the fnaf fans would rather turn off their brains to legitimate criticism because the movie has something they like? Nostalgia is a hell of a drug.

[@SubZero-hs9xc]

Ok, but it cant be lower than the movies that tries to copy it like banana split and Willy wonderland

[@geistking]

​@@alkrolydit isn't fans tho. People who lived through the release of the game's and got to experience the incredible story it has were appalled and offended at this dumpster fire of a film. It's people that never knew about FNAF, or never saw it as more than a stupid kid's game that claim it's good but push this idea that it definitely was "made for the fans". Fans wanted a good film, we were promised a good film that Scott would help make. We were given shit, but most people aren't part of the fanbase and thus didn't have to wait all that time and be told all those lies, instead those people just watched or took their kids to watch the film, laughed at the characters on screen, left, called it the best thing ever, blamed the fans, and fucked off.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

The problem is the criticism is incredibly hateful and douchy. Also don't be an hypocrite. Id bet for a fact you hated and continue to dislike or was disappointed with people who didn't like what you liked. Also, you opened yourself up to criticism by criticizing something many people like. Don't be a bitch and take it when you gave them one first.

[@thejumpergaming4699]

The biggest thing that really drags this movie down IMO is how it feels like things were cut for time. The way the pacing is makes it feel like they had a 3 hour cut of this movie and then just started taking things out until it was 1.5 hours long. There is a lot of potential here, and its sad that they didnt live up to it in the way that it could have been amazing. I feel like if we had maybe had extra time to explain how afton is controlling the kids, more focus on the absolute atrocities of afton, and a sequence at the end that adapts the horror and tension of the gameplay of the games by having afton prowl around the pizzaria in the suit and michael having to use the cameras to see when it was safe to move to different rooms and set something up to ultimately triggers the springlock scene. As a diehard fnaf fan whos been waiting for this movie for 8 years, I had an absolute blast with what we were given and Im so so happy to have been able to see this come to fruition. The easter eggs, cameos, and set/prop design were top notch and everything I would have wanted (except for maybe a markiplier cameo). But ultimately, it was a bit disappointing when it comes to what I would have wanted from a FILM of the series. Lets hope they release a rated R HORROR cut in the future

[@diegodankquixote-wry3242]

Can we appreciate the fact Cartoonshi became Liveactionshi for this video?

[@Dr_Damon_1111]

No what is there to appreciate?

[@MrNothing7374]

​@@Dr_Damon_1111 simply nothing

[@psycholaw4394]

The drawing plotline as a simple explanation The spirits don't remember much about their final moment(s) and thus, their murder. Those drawing were a visual representation of what they percieved the yellow bunny to be before their demise: A friendly face they can trust. Those drawing don't control the spirt, only misguiding them into listening to what they perceive as their only contact outside of the few hostile trespassers, or pant soiling security guards who frequent the place. The one drawing made helped them remember, like classic ghost stories where the spirit doesn't recall how it died and need help to move one which won't happen here since.. he always come back! Now why would William change his mind and hire Micheal of all people? From what I understand, he picked him because of his last name sharing the one of his rprevious victim. Other people he hired were most likely weak, or cowardly which is why he hesitated hiring him and sent his daughter to keep an eye on him However it doesn't mean I though the movie was perfect. There is one specific plotline that (in my opinion) was dumb which was the aunt plotline. First of all, she never pondered what happened to the people she sent at the pizzeria and why Micheal kept his job. You could say she din't care about them (true) but to the point she doesn't question once their disapeareance or is angered by their percieved failure is weird. Second.. no one questioned Micheal why the woman who was taking him to court for abby costidiy was found dead in his appartment (or knocked out in the best case scenario. But it is heavilly implied that golden freddy radically took her out( making me wonder why he wasn't the first individual questioned afterward. And thirdly is his reaction (or lack there off) to one of his closest friend, at the very least one he trust enough to watch over abby while he work, and close enough to have friendly conversations

[@yourstrulli9089]

This is one of those moments that fans kinda had to fill in the blanks to understand. It wasn’t choreographed naturally to the audience and kinda felt weird. Lore wise it makes sense but it’s another case it doesn’t work logically or for non fnaf fans.

[@qkun]

You put the drawings explanation very nicely! Also the Dr?/teacher idk anyways they highlight the importance of how kid's express and communicate through drawings which comes right back up in that ending scene. I did not expect Abby, a literal child, to VERBALLY explain to these other literal children how they were brutally murdered. I don't thing they have the lexicon for such a complex explanation besides "he killed you". The drawing was a great way to communicate what happened to them, it also made it easier for the kid audience to follow as well.

[@webfrosty]

yeah the drawing plotline made the most sense to me, genuinely feels like a fnaf trope at its best. its a classic ghost story of "i dont remember what happened at my death" thus, the kids need a simple way to show what happened to them. its a simple and childish gesture like giving cake to a dead spirit on their "happiest day". i also agree abt the aunt it was very insane family drama and i love that in my medias, but it had absolutely nothing to do with the main plot 😭 her not wondering what happened to max and her friends makes sense for her character of being selfish and only wanting abby in her care, not to gaf abt others, but her being there just to send others to be killed and then DIE HERSELF is hilarious to me. will always remember doug the lawyer though he was funny i hope hes good

[@pepski2723]

Exactly, I think the plot was good, but it needs understanding which is what gets people, I personally think it was a great film and probably my favourite of all time. Yes it definitely had flaws but it didn’t stop me from loving it, as it shouldn’t for anyone else.

[@firdanharbima6997]

Right? all the plot at the start is amazingly done But then it all fell apart when THE ENTIRE MASSACRE scene Get Ignored! like WHY!?!? I love this movie as much as I like the franchise BUT WHY IS IT SO STUPID ironically that's the entire cycle of this series fans

[@dylanpeddle6859]

Just came back from seeing the movie and had a great time seeing it. The audience there gave such a loud reaction when they first mentioned William Afton's name and after it ended someone showed us all a cardboard cutout of Markiplier they brought since he wasn't in the movie

[@joseluisgonzalezsolis2933]

Hahaha , It looks like they enjoyed it

[@AntiThotPatrol]

Hot take: Just because you see this movie as a “love-letter to the fans” doesn’t remove its flaws. You could still enjoy the movie, but you can’t excuse criticism by stating that the movie was just for the “fans”

[@kamilrichert8446]

The movie was more of a love letter to the franchise and community as a whole than an actual film and honestly I love it precisely for that

[@johnjordan211]

I disrespect it precisely for that

[@9ceper]

Wasn’t even a love letter just a terrible mash up of years of lore in a single movie with a sprinkle of fanfare

[@alguem9283]

​@@9ceperReal.

[@1234_Flux]

Couldn't even adapt the game faithfully.

[@Cakespresso]

​@@1234_Fluxits not an adaptation of the games anyway

[@Sharkkingstudios23]

The main problem with video game movies now is that they try to be TOO faithful. Movies from the 90s like mortal Kombat and the OG Mario movie we’re taking very little from the actual games. That’s why the sonic movies are still the best video game movies by default, because it’s a good mix of original ideas, and fan service.

[@bomberman9296]

Sir, you dropped this 👑

[@HeroTheHedgehog999]

Plus the sonic movies were able to target all audiences so that fans and non fans can equally enjoy it.

[@Kirboi7]

Sonic movie was legitimately great and I think that’s why it didn’t get terrible critic reviews unlike the FNAF and Mario movies

[@Rediscool9]

Speak for yourself, I felt like the first Sonic movie barely felt like a Sonic movie at all.

[@Kirboi7]

@@Rediscool9 That’s true and that’s why I think the movie was just like a 6/10 because it felt more like a road trip movie. Not a bad one but not one that screams “Sonic”. However, I believe the second one is a lot more Sonic while having a competent story which is why I think it’s a solid 8/10

[@AuraLeafstorm]

I think the pillow fort scene makes sense. The animatronics are possessed by the ghosts of children; they play like children, and they want to kill Abby and stuff her body in a suit to make her like themselves. They're deranged, they're powerful, and they're unpredictable. The scene doesn't undercut any of that, and at that point in the movie we already know that they kill people and can switch their demeanor on a dime.

[@yourstrulli9089]

While lore wise it makes sense but it completely ruined the fear factor that they had at the beginning, and tried to have towards the end. I was actually kinda scared of them at the beginning, then when that scene showed up, I liked it because it was sweet but instantly lost all fear with them aside from some tension when they were looking at Mike. Not a bad scene but it clashes with the movie and kinda ruined their fear factor.

[@MiiPunchy]

​@@yourstrulli9089I agree, it wasn't scary at all- more so a thriller And that's okay, honestly I still really loved it

[@mesaplayer9636]

​@@yourstrulli9089if it's lore accurate then what's the problem? Should Scott sacrifice the story being lore accurate so that it's more interesting to people that don't know the lore?

[@Butwhythough881]

@@mesaplayer9636You can do that without sacrificing the story. Silver Eyes was able to do it.

[@FrootLoops-q3c]

@@yourstrulli9089imo it made them more scary bc now you know they can be nice but you never know when they’ll snap. It makes them unpredictable. Also, correct me if I’m wrong but don’t the animatronics who are possessed by children like- not harm children and individuals they find non threatening? Like if they think someone is really friendly (at least how they perceive it) they won’t hurt them, and they also don’t hurt children. That’s why hurting Abby is specifically mentioned to be because of William’s influence. That’s why they turned on Mike as soon as Abby got mad at him, bc they trust her and think if she’s mad at him he must be bad. That’s why they attacked the guys that broke in without a second thought

[@littleonetoddles]

the funny thing is, the song the animatronics were singing was perfect but they cut it at the part where it made sense for the movie. the chorus goes *”i hear the secrets that you keep, when you’re talking in your sleep”* which makes sense since mike sleeps to communicate with the children. also if they made it a suspenseful/psychological horror instead of going for the small amount of gore it would’ve been great. weird direction but we shall see where it goes lol

[@AndrzejGieraltCreative]

I think the fan film you can watch on youtube is the closest thing to a solid cohesive movie the fnaf fans are gonna get - it's super impressive what those guys accomplished, and the story was somehow fairly cohesive.

[@robertomurteira5913]

Wich one is that? I can't seem to find it.

[@naurpills833]

Mind specifiying which one?

[@antoine6760]

I'd like to know which film you are to as well

[@briefcasegaming4460]

link bro

[@waterwitch1690]

“Unfocused “ is a great way to simply describe the movie. I enjoyed it, could’ve been better🤷🏻‍♀️ that’s just facts

[@asaknight321]

To confess with you no matter what kind of script or version we were gonna get I always expected a bit of cheesiness or weirdness would be involved. That being said if you were a fnaf fan this movie might be a great time for you but this is definitely a far from perfect film. It simply existing is a miracle on it's own

[@YuyuHakurei]

I did for a second or third movie. Not the first though. It would have been a lot better to set the tone as a horror film right the first time. Then you can add the humor in little by little like the games did. The animatronics were doing the angry family guy look. I can't overlook that. It's too damn much. xD

[@grumboflipflorp5688]

A lot of people say being born is a miracle in of itself, but now we have to pay taxes. The FNAF movie might’ve been released, but now we have to deal with all the schizo fans incessantly bringing up the Rotten Tomatoes score of Cuties as if they actually give a shit about it anymore and don’t just use it to crush any amount of criticism that anything they like receives

[@glitchchungus8318]

@@YuyuHakureiit’s actually opposite kinda. fnaf 1 was scary, fnaf 2 was scarier, fnaf 3 was more scarier and fnaf 4 was even more scarier than the originals. but after sister location the scariness started to get down the opposite way until security breach were it wasn’t scary at all

[@TheSuperGoober]

Ive come to realize that i shouldn't let opinions from people ive never met and ones that dont matter to me at all influence how i view or feel about something. I loved this movie the whole way, everything about it, and thats all.

[@SpicyNightmare09]

Based opinion 🔥🔥

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

💯

[@kiratwo4u]

nice King/Queen

[@Teagan81472]

🔥🔥absolutely

[@glitchchungus8318]

as a long time fnaf fan who gave this movie 4.5\10 I respect your opinion even if it’s not valid🔥❤️

[@randomvrperson4967]

As someone who fully expected a level around B movie horror, I had a lot of fun with it. I wasn’t expecting horror. I was expecting just fun and a lot of really good puppetry. I generally got that. Overall, enjoyable and worth the watch.

[@glitchchungus8318]

yeah see that’s the problem because they were making it as “horror” which it absolutely wasn’t. that’s like if you order a chocolate but instead you got bread you get what I mean?

[@alecperdeau650]

I think the movie was a hard balancing act to put to film. They made something salvageable but not without series flaws. Between keeping it kid friendly while making the opening hurdle to the franchise as low as possible for outsiders while also keeping it as a fan pleaser, it was simply impossible for the film to hold this all in perfect synchronization.

[@SteveCrafts2k]

_"Its literally a pizzeria for kids lmao so ofc the movie is gonna be wholesome at times"_ Literally the first game had a night guard who died painfully and horrifically. The game that had the Missing Children Incident as hidden lore.

[@landofnoone7048]

Yeah. And about that fort scene. I understand intentions, but the idea, honestly, is executed poorly and undeveloped. Because the fact that they are still kids could've been shown earlier few times even at killing scenes, but because tgey are heavy and stiff animatronics the things like playful jogging or doing a peek-a-boo will still look creepy af and the fort scene then will just make it more clear. Or you could've started it like a creepy or scary episode, like Oh no! What awful things are they doing? and then we see realisation Ow! They were just playing. Just because they are kids, it doesn't mean that we can't be scaried or creeped by their actions

[@AkiraLionPilot]

The “any movie that fans love and critics hate” problem

[@Ramsey276one]

Yep

[@jamiebowler4693]

I mean Scott isn’t a screen writer so expecting that of him is unfair. There are a lot of problems and this is a fair review. As a first attempt I think the movie is well done it’s doesn’t disrespect the fan base and tried to keep things relatively simple. The hood thing about Scott is he actually does learn from criticism and mistakes so that may translate into future entries if we get any (I hope the negative reception doesn’t prevent them). Seeing as it’s done relatively well at the box office I hope for sequels and the future of FNAF in a movie medium.

[@staringcorgi6475]

Cawthon shouldn’t be one like rowling shouldn’t be one both don’t know how to write good films

[@aaronwright485]

@@staringcorgi6475 Godzilla had a stroke while reading this and fucking died

[@Uvulo]

​@@staringcorgi6475you just gave me dyslexia, thanks for that

[@redaxer2908]

That is an awful excuse because if you have a vision but aren't a good writer you partner yourself up with a good writer.

[@user-x7dc2pq7n]

Why did he chose to be the screen writer if he isn't a screen writer??

[@monkey-network]

I'll say the main character really carried this as the guy who has to put up with a lot in this story. Everyone in their own world and Mike's just trying to get the bag and resolve a personal issue.

[@Termina2018]

Funny enough, my favorite scene was during the middle when the vandals had to survive against the animatronics... probably since it was actually like the games with them checking the security cameras, blocking the vents, that hallway scene... only to get picked out one by one by each of them. Hope we get more of those moments during the sequel, along with more animatronics.

[@TimmyTheAverageJimmy]

I’d like to report a robbery. You took all the words out of my mouth. I thought the movie was mid at best and despite not being a fan anymore, I was still disappointed especially when Springtrap came out of nowhere No proper build-up, instead the time that could’ve been spent on that was spent on an overly-childly sleepover. And then Venessa threatens Mike afterwards even though it wasn’t his fault and he literally said the animatronics could be dangerous 😂 But I did still have fun to be fair, just felt like a missed opportunity

[@CobraCommander117]

Best line in the movie was Vanessa threatening to shoot him so hilarious

[@henryjohnson2635]

YEAH MY TWO BIGGEST COMPLAINTS ARE LITERALY 1. It tries to be a comedy when it should've focused on horror 2. A story is as good as it's villian and it hardly touched on William Afton

[@givemeyourshoespronto.1952]

Facts, I was pretty disappointed since his introduction was pretty badass but that ended quickly and in the dumbest way possible. And the comedy just tries way too hard. The only times I laughed were at the gorey bits and that’s saying something lol.

[@henryjohnson2635]

YES THE OPENING SCENE WAS AMAZING! This should feel like Five Nights at Freddy's The Movie, not a FNAF adaptation@@givemeyourshoespronto.1952

[@jskywalker58]

that fort building scene felt like an unintentional middle finger to those hoping it was gonna be a genuine horror film

[@CuteLittleInvisibleSouls]

​@@jskywalker58you realize the ghosts are still children right 💀

[@SpringyGirl69]

It’s actually a thriller I think, could be wrong

[@pizzapoosta]

i dont understand why critics are wrong when a movie scores bad. like are they supposed to consume 8 years of freddy fazbear media so they can fully enjoy it

[@beasley1232]

Bruh a franchise literally is supposed to make stuff like marvel, fnaf, transformers etc FOR THEIR FANS, NOT FOR OTHER PEOPLE!! Critics only care about their own opinion, I 100% bet that none of the critics in Hollywood played any of the 11 main games or main 27 books OR any of the lore…

[@mcblazehunter6888]

​@@beasley1232 Why the heck would the critics play FNAF games? Their job is to review movies on how good they are as films, not how good they are at adapting the games/lore they're based on. And even though movies are made for fans, they should still be good as stand-alone films, which is why this movie gets a lot of criticism. I liked the fnaf movie a lot, and I think some people criticize it a bit harshly, but that doesn't mean everyone who criticizes any part of it is automatically wrong.

[@ravindupadmanath2802]

@@beasley1232 BRUH. literally, Toonshi addressed how "it's made for fans" is a bad excuse 13:50

[@beasley1232]

@@ravindupadmanath2802 I watched the video, and still don’t agree, the very first fnaf game I played was the fnaf 2 demo all the way back in 2015 and I’ve been a fan ever since, it made up a MAJORITY of my childhood (along with transformers). I played all the games, I read all 3 of the main books 3 times. And I watched the movie already twice, the movie really was made ONLY for the fandom, you aren’t going to understand shit if you don’t know anything about fnaf, the fans gave the movie an 89% in approval because most of the people who saw the movie were fans or fans bringing other non-fnaf fans and ofc it’s pg-13 rating which brought it a more teenage positive audience, while critics gave the movie a 25% on rotten tomatoes, and the critics at Hollywood I bet you MILLIONS no NOTHING about fnaf or the lore and haven’t played any of the main 11 games or read any of the 27-30 books.

[@user-zl1vf4me1p]

As someone who watched endgame as my first marvel movie... I didn't understood crap. It had still good effects... good writting, but I was actually fcking lost. This movie is 4/10 for a normal viewer. 11/10 to a fan of the franchise, there is no way another movie gets as many good vibes as this one when matpat shows up or when a cameo pulls up

[@marcelinepink]

Amen, brother. No but really, I'm getting super tired of hypocrites who say that they don't care about the critics reviews, yet they need to affirm themselves so bad by saying that the critics are awful people and their opinions don't matter. Like, you said it in the video, people need to understand that LIKING BAD MOVIES IS OKAY.

[@sunnyd4038]

Yeah the movie was not this 8/10 7/10 film that everyone hyped it up to be. It's just a popcorn film that dangles keys in front of kids faces and they all lose their minds and talk about how great it is. Decent story setup, terrible climax.

[@lancethefilmguy9392]

But Is It A Bad Movie?

[@marcelinepink]

@@lancethefilmguy9392 haven't seen it yet, so couldn't really say. If you're asking before watching I highly suggest to NOT listen to any reviews. Make up your mind before others do it for you, you'll live happier.

[@MichaelJacksonthe3rdjr]

Doesn't make cuties a good movie 💀

[@TheyAreHidingTheTruth]

For one, the movie was not bad. I brought a friend to the theater who had no knowledge of FNAF lore, and had not played any of the games. He came away from the movie amazed, as did most of the people in the theater. Secondly, the idea that critic’s reviews don’t matter, and that they are bad and not insightful are not hypocritical. Indeed, one concept is required for the other to be true. If you believed that the critic reviews don’t matter, but they are insightful and good, your belief would be internally contradictory. The reason people should disregard critics is because their reviews tend to be bad, and can potentially negatively impact the performance of a good movie. This is noted by the critic’s track record of very poor assessments. Lastly, the critic’s job is to reflect what the audience will think about a movie, and can influence how people see a film before even watching it. This is why so many people are justifiably angry about awful critic ratings, even though they might SEEM to not affect the quality of the movie.

[@malohn2068]

I never understand why movies always need stupid sideplots. Remove the aunt sideplots and the breaking and just have Mike bring his sister to his job cause he can't afford a babysitter. Done. 1 hour now can be used to explain who tf William afton is for people who don't know

[@Butwhythough881]

Or Mike taking his time outside of work to learn more about the restaurant’s history and the missing children. They literally cut out a scene of Mike researching Freddy’s and finding an old news story, which would’ve been more suitable over Vanessa giving lazy exposition to him. Heck it would also give Afton/Raglan more screentime as Mike could go to him for more information outside of what was provided in the phone call.

[@raelogan]

I wasn't expecting a masterpiece, but I thought it was fun enough to be a good watch with some friends or as a nice 9pm Thriller. I liked the human characters, and I was pleasantly surprised to see Abby was written like an actual child.

[@greenlobster]

cant believe i can imagine shaggy as someone who murdered multiple children as a robotic furry in the 1980s

[@Blue-fg8vt]

It all went down hill when Scooby got too old.

[@shep6489]

Someone hasn't seen Scream lmao

[@greenlobster]

@@shep6489 you're right i havent, should i?

[@messicareca1264]

As a fan I say it's impossible to defend the film without getting burned They made a scene of the animtronics playing building a house lol There's like 10 minutes of the animatronics being aggressive, the rest of the movie is just roleplay around the pizzeria lol

[@crypt5129]

I feel like it was the other way around, them being aggressive for most of the movie and like 10 minutes of them being friendly

[@qwart22]

@@crypt5129I really don’t get why people are getting angry about the animatronics being friendly, they were only friendly when Abby was with them since they attacked Mike before and after this point, this is because they are made to be friendly with children, this is because they were made for children’s entertainment, they’re also made to be hostile to people they perceive as threats, such as the criminals that broke into the pizzeria, if you pay attention the movie then the thing that’s being criticised often makes sense.

[@The_scrongler1978]

I kinda agree ngl. I also feel like the executions of the concepts they were trying to do was kinda bad

[@DonetskChildrenBidenBomba]

​@@The_scrongler1978That's literally how they're supposed to be. They're kids

[@The_scrongler1978]

⁠@@DonetskChildrenBidenBombawhat does that have to do with anything? Are you good?

[@Blazegarcia9995]

13:36, Exactly! I liked the movie but acknowledged it’s problems. And I respect other people’s opinions on the movie, even though mine’s different.

[@games_on_phone89]

you know, every time somebody calls a movie "a LOVE LETTER to the FANS" i start getting worried about it's quality

[@9_1.1]

what a lot of people dont seem to realize is that the movie was more based on the books and the general “alternate universe lore” rather than the actual game. i personally like this because i feel like there isnt much of a movie you can make out the games alone, there needs to be more of a story added on. i was kind of disappointed that we didnt get to see Mike actually try to survive the night using the doors and cams though, it seems like Scott completely forgot about the most iconic part of fnaf.

[@jujuoof174]

Yeah!

[@ერა]

Game's lore is way bigger and longer than thing we got, have you watched FNAF theories on game theory?

[@fenrirslip]

This film is definitely one of those cases where if you've been a fan of FNAF since the beginning, you're likely to enjoy it and come out feeling satisfied. Other the other hand, if you're unfamiliar with the games and the lore, you're either gonna love it or hate it. It was clear from the start for me at least, that this film was gonna be doing its own thing while incorporating specific details from the games like the spring lock suits and the missing children. I would also say that this film is meant to give us a sense of the world that this film trilogy could potentially give us. That way whenever the second film is in the works, they can work on where they went wrong. This was obviously done so that regular moviegoers wouldn't be bombarded with the chaos that is the FNAF lore. But I won't sugarcoat it, this movie is no Oscar spectacle. xD I would also like to point out something about the spring lock failure. The film actually portrayed it most realistically ironically enough. Logically speaking, if you were in William's shoes during the spring lock failure, you wouldn't be able to scream, or at the very least, you could, but very briefly because the spring locks would more than likely go off towards your throat almost instantly, leaving you unable to speak or scream. Instead, you'd be choking on your own blood. Of course, the film took some creative liberties when William said, "I always come back". But for the most part, the film did a great job with the spring lock scene.

[@caIyps0]

honestly the springlock scene woke up some childhood trauma - absolutely terrifying body horror :'D

[@robbat1209]

I’m going to be 100% honest with you, I’m a very hardcore fan, I’ve been a fan since the first game came out, followed the lore closely throughout the years, but I can’t say I liked the movie. It’s too silly. I hear people say it’s a “love letter for the fans” but honestly it literally is just a big disappointment. I was literally in disbelief whenever I saw the animatronics building a fort with the main characters. I mean, seriously? I’m honestly so confused on how other FNAF fans enjoyed it… honestly I think majority of FNAF fans were just ready to digest anything given to them after waiting 9 ish years for a movie.

[@spoopythings]

How? How in the hell is a long time fnaf fan supposed to enjoy the kids show that this is. Once the fort scene started I felt like leaving the theater. This was not what I wanted to wait 8 years for.

[@spoopythings]

@@caIyps0seriously. He looked as much in pain as if he accidently cracked his back. It was toned down for the kids who shouldn’t even be in the discussion.

[@aaronwright485]

@@spoopythings over half the community is kids

[@gp-1542]

Dam I did not know mat was in the movie He really went far in places

[@CherryHotSauce]

Is a cameo in a bad movie really that much of a milestone for a man who makes millions of views and met the pope

[@rafaelmauricio8000]

​@@CherryHotSauceIt's a hell of a lot more than the common person in the comments ever could reach. When I heard about this I thought it was a joke about Mat. But yeah.

[@tz28exile]

@@CherryHotSauce It was a great movie. Your opinion is subjective :D

[@maguma3419]

I'm convinced Toons' secret goal is to draw us into a video just so we can be gaslighted into playing Yakuza

[@tjdw5251]

finally someone I agree with. Not only was the film atrocious, the fnaf fans running around and trolling the normal people that dont like a bad film are even worse.

[@TheCapitalLetterM]

Okay but an important note, for a movie about a haunted pizzaria, there wasnt a single scene with a pizza in it. 0/10, no pizza

[@krisby3939]

the doom sentinel pfp is so based ngl have a nice day sir

[@plya0]

Separating my thoughts on the movie from the from discourse, the most annoying part about all this is that so many people will use the excuse that the FNAF movie was "for the fans" to shield it from any and all criticism. Honestly the movie disappointed me more as a fan of the games, than as a fan of horror movies. (like why did we barely spend any time in the pizzeria :/) AND WHERE WAS PHONE GUY???????

[@allydeath7406]

Hi I have been a long time fan of yours and I've been meaning to say this for a while now. Thank you for making these videos. As someone who has been feeling depressed and suicidal for a long time your videos are one of the reasons why I stay on this earth. They always make me laugh and never hesitate to put a smile on my face. So thank you Cartoonshi for making my days brighter and I hope yours do to.

[@WSendam]

I’m just glad matpat got a cameo ❤

[@anthonyibarra8697]

I find the "It's made for the fans!" argument odd because of the film's massive release. If this movie had a small outing, like on a KZbin channel or straight to DVD/streaming, then I can understand the argument a little more since this release would be a little more "exclusive" since more fans than not will go to it. But this film is being released to a ton of movie theaters, a place where the more vital audience to a film's success than hardcore fans are casual moviegoers and average joes. You're pretty much INVITING outside people to watch the movie because you need them in order to financially perform. So in that aspect to me, it's fair game if said people criticize the movie.

[@optimascrime5235]

The film wasn't the worst movie I've ever seen by any means and I do think the refrences, animatronics and set design were all decent......but the film has some really bad dialogue, the plot felt like a mess, the tone was all over the place and it was missing alot of the horror aspects besides maybe two scenes of it, hopefully they'll improve apon that stuff in the sequel

[@smashyrashy]

Havent seen it yet but "fan service" is not a good enough reason for a movie to be worth seeing

[@mushroomkid9666]

In my opinion, I do think you should see it, just not pay enough money to see it in theaters. It is not worth a movie ticket.

[@thatbluegamet]

I can’t believe that this is how I found out that the MatPat cameo is real. I was content to forever question if he was in the movie

[@DavidTamburro]

I saw the movie last night in theaters, and I REALLY enjoyed it! I brought in my brother, my Dad, and one of my 2 BFF’s, and the theater was PACKED! During the whole movie, me, and other people were screaming, clapping, and cheering. As as person that’s been a fan of this franchise since 2014, this was TOTALLY worth the 8 1/2 Year wait. But I do agree with some people that wanted the movie to be more scary. I agree with that. But I still enjoy the movie for what it is. And for people that don’t like this movie, that is perfectly fine. Easily a 7/10 for me.

[@ravenmillieweikel3847]

I think a lot of the confusion about the lore in the movie is due to the fact that the story is more closely tied to the books rather than the games. The story beats with this movie and the silver eyes are very similar, especially the fnaf 1 restaraunt setting, the little brother being kidnapped in flashbacks, and the ending with william getting springlocked, the main difference being that the protagonists are switched around a bit and the security guard takes the place of the police officer, and the kids breaking in take the place of the security guard. I'm not arguing that this makes the movie any better, but it certainly makes sense why the movie was made in the way it was once you take the books into account. Another thing from the books is the importance of the supernatural drawings and the fact that afton has the ability to control the animatronics.

[@Potato_Tomato-od2lz]

The only thing I wish was that the spring lock scene was a bit better maybe a silver eyes style kill where Anton gets pissed off and starts strangling Vanessa and she activates the locks and he crumples on the floor wheezing gagging a choking on blood while the belly of the suit is slowly being soaked in blood while the fnaf jingle plays and the drag him twitching away

[@brandoncole5533]

Its not really closer to the books It just borrows one element of it and thats the kidnapped sibling thing It doesnt even go all the way through with the idea So saying that this is closer to the books than the games just feels like an excuse

[@ravenmillieweikel3847]

@@brandoncole5533 Well there were haunted drawings in the books. I double checked and the drawings aren’t how afton controls them in the books but they are still there.

[@zaenotaverage76]

I actually like the whole drawing concept because it kind of reminds you of the fact that they're kids. They even explain it in an earlier scene with Abbie's teacher in how they understand things through pictures. Not only are they kids, but they are also dead. Meaning that they are only left with remnants of what their reality is, which is what William Afton uses to control them.

[@sayospecter6731]

Heh, heh... "Remnants"

[@user-x7dc2pq7n]

That's doesn't explain why they would only understand drawings. In the dreams, we can see that they can speak, Freddy even leaves his animatronic and speaks to Abbie as a ghost, so why wouldn't they be able to understand it when they can speak it?

[@YuyuHakurei]

Also doesn't explain where their rage went. They don't screw around in the first game. They go straight to your office to kill you night 2 on. The look on their faces when angry is the same hilarious look on family guy characters faces during comedy skits. The movie was completely tone deaf. I still liked it, but it was more disappointing than tolerable tbh.

[@dirtbaby333]

@@user-x7dc2pq7nvanessa said that Afton took everything from them but their starting to lose memory of it…which is why it was so easy for Afton to control them. And ofc we saw them understand english…but their spirits in the Animatronic cant speak. Remember when Abby introduced Mike?

[@zaenotaverage76]

@@user-x7dc2pq7n Abbie also understands English but she mainly uses pictures as her way of telling her stories. Also, they've been dead for at least a few years so their ghosts can't hold the same memories.

[@adamationsplus8063]

I actually hate how much drama this film has caused. Yeah it’s not amazing, I do disagree with some of your points but I understand where you’re coming from. I enjoyed it for what it is and think it has a lot of potential. It was inevitable that the critics would be less favourable to it and that fans would lap it up. I wish we could just look at the film for what it is.

[@robertfaulkkner5508]

As someone who never got into the FNAF craze… the MatPat scene got a smile out of me.

[@izdva]

I am biased but I feel like people don’t realise the movie is referencing and incorporating aspects from the minigames in the actual games and the silver eyes book… which is probably why the story is quite confusing or complicated

[@SteveCrafts2k]

Why should anyone have to look to outside material to understand the game? It should stand or fall on its own.

[@izdva]

@@SteveCrafts2k You don’t have to, simple as that. You can either listen to explanations or just not like the movie. This movie was mostly made for genuine fans so I’m not sure why people think they’ll make it purely for newcomers

[@risingrobinprodutions]

Pretty much my whole theater was meme-ing on the movie as we watched. When the one chick got killed, some guy shouted “Was that the bite of ‘23?!” And people lost their shit. 😂

[@Alex-bg8fo]

Man i've seen twitter and these people are so weird, you cant say the movie is bad 💀the toxic diehard fans are incredibly annoying as hell with an obnoxious behavior

[@CherryHotSauce]

It felt like a children’s horror movie Which makes sense because the fandom is child heavy But it doesn’t make for a good movie

[@lucassism6726]

Well this fucking video took the rose tinted glasses off. So, as an aspiring writer, here's my two cents. A main problem with the movie that I would have is that it has literally no thematic center, and that's why the writing and tonal shifts were awful. There could've been something said about not letting go of the past , and it could've manifested itself perfectly what with Mike's obsession with the memory, or any motivation William could've had or even why the missing children would've been vengeful. And if they get even farther into the series, to the point where most of the characters become undead, there could be an exploration of *where do we draw the line between "alive" and "dead"* which is such an interesting question that I really want to see asked. However. I really hope someone else takes over writing the sequel because Scott Cawthon, while a master game dev, is horrible as a writer. It's because he's what we in the writing biz call a pantser (someone who writes by the seat of their pants), and while there's nothing wrong with it, his problem is that he doesn't seem to edit anything or ask questions on thematic / plot / tonal relevance, hence the tent scene. And the tent scene could've been so much better with a slight change of choice. I notice it leaned too much into the lighthearted aspects of the animatronics being children, and if there weren't any quippy sequences (like Bonnie's thumbs up) along with the animatronics staring at Abby a bit too much to the point that it's unnerving, that would've been fucking perfect! But no! Scotty here doesn't like storytelling techniques that work I guess, and now wee have a beautifully shot movie with no thematic center, leading to the worst tonal whiplash I've ever seen from a mainstream piece of media. As a little sidenote, at first I thought the drawing was a thematic motif, but it was actually a plot device that ended up not making any sense.

[@CuteLittleInvisibleSouls]

As someone who is aware of the many flaws of this movie, I disagree with some of what you said. The Bonnie thumbs up is perfect to me as it is a nuance to the fandom memes. There's nothing wrong with them focusing on the aspect of the animatronics having dead children in them, they aren't exactly just psychopath Killing machines, they are children still. I do however agree that it was dragged out for too long.

[@0canofbeans_417]

13:28 frrr how you gonna hate on critics for doing their job yet you care about their collective score on the movie as if it determines the whole film's quality. If you like the movie, great if you dont thats fine. I see it as a movie with room for improvement. Theres always ways to make your film better. I think Scott knows that and I trust he knows what hes doing with the feedback for the next movie.

[@judgmentalanimal]

I feel like a lot of the problems could’ve been ironed out with a second draft. It’s a very fun movie but a lot of its ideas just end up being undercooked.

[@JustthePhoneGuyYT]

I feel like the movie might be a book situation too we’re they’re meant to be in a seperate canon from the games so that things just stay less tangled. So they all take place in the same universe just in their own bubbles that can feed into eachother. I’m also pretty sure the focus on pictures and images was apart of the dream theory book mike had and the thing the teacher said about kids understanding pictures better. I understand the criticism though, I did still enjoy the film alot (probably mostly due to the game’s being my autistic hyperfixation)

[@georgemeyers7172]

Oh yes... Definably Something that fits FNAF... No seriously... I totally can see Something like this happening with the Drawings... Anything feels possible in this Franchise to be honest. And let's be honest... It was always going to have a batshit insane story in it. It's FNAF

[@entityontheinternet]

Holy Shit are we seriously shoehorning Cuties into the Discussion again?! How hard is it not to weaponize Children being sexualised because some Critics didn´t like a Video Game Movie?

[@HeroTheHedgehog999]

I don’t know why people are doing it but it’s pissing me off

[@EggFighterXB-]

I hate Lumity it's a terrible thing that happened

[@entityontheinternet]

@@HeroTheHedgehog999 Because they are too lazy to come up with actual Counterarguments

[@pvzfan4208]

Maybe critics shouldn’t be considered “professional” they literally think their opinion is worth more somehow.

[@apocalypticrain8687]

​@@EggFighterXB-what does that have do with anything

[@Desolated_Vex]

They went more based on the books. I went in thinking of it from a video game standpoint. Once i realised it was based on the books, i started to really understand it and enjoy it. I do wish it had more gore since I believe it really lacked that...

[@squindigglyjigglybop1300]

In Resident Evil: Village, there is a plot contrivance where the entire game could have been easily prevented if a single character told the protagonist something. The exact same thing happens in this movie.

[@diamondmemer9754]

Non evil characters withholding information and making mistakes is a part of writing, that's not a problem with the movie

[@glitchchungus8318]

yeah except re village wasn’t even trying to be a horror game but Is much scarier than fnaf sb and poppy playtime

[@buzzlightyearpfp7641]

you hit the nail on the head at 4:58 i utterly hated how they amalgamated plot elements from the entire series, almost every game and some of the books got torn apart and combined into this and then they dont really go into any element that far

[@Exlipsis]

As a long time fan, very disappointed in the movie. I was just sitting in the theater waiting for it to be over. It was just so cheesy and not scary. The story made no sense either. I don't like how people say "The fact that the movie came out is why its amazing" NO, IT TOOK SO LONG FOR IT TO COME AND AND IT WAS TERRIBLE. THAT MAKES IT EVEN WORSE. I had no biased, and i really wanted to like the movie. Didn't even look at the movie scores. I do not hate this movie, I just extremely dislike it. The visuals were very well done, and the sound design was too. (And the matpat cameo that was awesome) Other than that, i think its comedy movie of the year it had my whole theater laughing at the death scenes💀

[@fartsmella9267]

I agree with everything you said, this story feels very tame and surface level, and they spend way to much time on the wrong things like the custody battle could have been cut out completely and they'd have more time to show important parts

[@birddogbatboy]

The sleepover scene in the movie made me some of the most extreme tonal whiplash in a movie ever. I ligit started laughing in the cinema to myself due to the absurdness of the the scene. I understand the fact that the spirits possessing the suits are children, and we should expect them to act as such when they are friendly towards Abby, but I feel it could've been done in a much better way with less tonal whiplash Also, I'd like to say that the reason that Mike seems to move on so quickly from the death of his brother Garett, is from him realizing that he needs to let go of the past and focus on the present aka Abby. But, it's done in such a way that leave much to be desired The "I always come back" from Mathew Lillard wasn't bad, but just was kinda meh. One last thing, since I'm seeing this a lot: having to see a read a bunch of lore or see a 3 hour video to understand it all should not be requirement to enjoy a movie based on pre-existing media. People who are not avid fans or don't have enough pre-existing knowledge shouldn't have to do that. Nobody should have to watch every single SAW movie to enjoy SAW X. I enjoyed the movie as a FNAF fan, but all I'm saying is that it could have been better. Still watching the ever-loving shit out of this movie.

[@veppotoast3507]

Objectively, yea, it's bad. But it's a fun bad with a lot of love and care put into it, so I'd consider it a win

[@Who_is_Toast]

I 100% agree that the movie had MANY problems but I was having a great time throughout the entire thing, so I personally don’t mind those flaws. I’m really excited for the sequel. Perhaps they will work on the flaws to make it better next time. More scary, more fleshed out, more of an accurate representation of the games etc. Either way. It was a very solid movie imo. If I could be biased I’d say it’s an 8/10 but if I think about it critically I’d say it’s more of a 7/10 or a 6.5/10.

[@fanzon7660]

You have definitely seen less than 20 movies in your life.