The GBR Six Nations Debrief with Paolo Garbisi

Alex, Hask and Tins look back on the 2024 Six Nations. Congratulations to Ireland who claimed back-to-back titles, and Italy who had their best ever tournament. We are joined by one of the stars of the Italian team, their fly-half - Paolo Garbisi.
0:01 - Show Intro
0:42 - Show starts
2:30 - Ireland
8:08 - Scotland
11:20 - Wales
18:08 - Paolo Garbisi joins us
34:03 - France vs England
45:30 - British Airways High Flyer of the Week
55:35 - Where do England go from here?
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[@tobymcflurry258]

I love italy, Garbisi seems like a cool lad too, hopefully they can continue this form 🔥

[@MrSamafia]

[@martinfoster9848]

I can't believe I'm going to say this and I'll probably hate myself in the morning but Haskell made several excellent points. A rarity admittedly, but like the England side, possibly things are changing.

[@OliverMyhill]

The fact that a TMO can effectively dictate the result of a hard-fought contest by intervening for something so innocuous is where rugby falls short. Both teams were awesome, they played to their max and for the game to be decided on the caprice of a TMO is something rugby needs to improve. TMO wasn’t necessary. It prevented a natural end to a thrilling battle between two great sides.

[@marcdaniels9079]

But would you say the same thing if the TMO called a no try for France due to say knock on or forward pass in the build up….

[@Jack-qv5ru]

Haskell on fire on this one. Fully agree.

[@aidossocratis1813]

A rare treat

[@fin-ed6oj]

I love that idea. The winner of the 6 Nations plays the winner of the Rugby Championship on the first Saturday of the Autumn Nations Cup in a grand final somewhere in the world. Imagine Ireland v New Zealand, winner takes $1 million in cash in Las Vegas, Shanghai, Munich, Mumbai or Rio de Janeiro... would be huge for rugby

[@pyros80]

I would suggest to add on to Haskells point, that REFS need to grow a pair and tell the TMO to do one if they're not convinced. Also, with WR further rule tinkering, they're determined to fuck the game completely.

[@RobClifton-cm1wo]

Menoncello, going to be an absolute unit

[@user-gc8pc3ol6l]

He already is.

[@domenicobongani4505]

Please more Italians on this podcast 😊 from an italian fan of yours

[@GoodBadRugby]

0:01 - Show Intro 0:42 - Show starts 2:30 - Ireland 8:08 - Scotland 11:20 - Wales 18:08 - Paolo Garbisi joins us 34:03 - France vs England 45:30 - British Airways High Flyer of the Week 55:35 - Where do England go from here?

[@roryingle2246]

Really enjoyed listening to Paolo. Need to learn a lesson about wanting to write teams off too quickly. Hope Italy goes from strength to strength. This 6 nations was fun to watch; even for a Saffa like me. I love the banter, but do think that there are double standards in the North. The same people that criticized Rassie are now bashing refs on a weekly basis.

[@samuelhowell7364]

Maybe need two drones to monitor the scrum and time it , laser guided offside and lineouts plus awesome kick chases action from the cameras. Ai drone could feed info to ref and fans.

[@CagedPaps]

The poll is interesting, I think it's because it finished so strong. The Scotland England game was the first interesting one to watch, then Italy beating Scotland and England beating Ireland made things interesting and the final week while not meaning much, were good games to watch. If you held the poll at the 3rd round, there were lots of comments it was the worst in recent history. Controversial officiating etc. I hope those poor calls aren't forgotten and we do see a response to improve that.

[@davidwalker2402]

So Ireland hammering France wasn’t a good game to watch hmmmmm

[@CagedPaps]

@@davidwalker2402 Not particularly, France were generally quite poor. If you look back at the comments after the first couple weeks that was the main takeaway, generally shocked at how poor they were without Dupont. I'd be shocked if Ireland France made it into the top 3, probably not top 5 games of this championship.

[@davidwalker2402]

@@CagedPaps yeah the England Italy game was great and nothing better than the English wales game followed by a hammering by Scotland , yeah the English games were way above any other team 🤣🤣🤣

[@CagedPaps]

@@davidwalker2402 I get you're being sarcastic but I'm a Scotland supporter so bash England all you want. I'm putting Scotland getting pumped by Italy as one of the better games, great for them to finally get the win they deserved. I have no agenda, just rating the championship.

[@Makethemostofit1]

Ben Earl was player of the tournament. Absolutely outstanding.

[@Sineadhawk]

I think player of the tournament has to go to the winning team .

[@TheSandersh]

⁠@@Sineadhawkwhy? The team performance in no way reflects the individuals performance in a vacuum. In fact the ability of an individual to change the game in a weaker team likely shows a better individual performance which is what the award is for

[@roryingle2246]

I think Tommaso was the player of the tournament. Playing like that consistently when your side is not dominant was simply incredible. I'd put him ahead of Duhan, even with my Saffa bias.

[@Mycloudacoustic]

Maybe the last 2 games…..not the first 3

[@davidwalker2402]

@@TheSandershbecause Bundi Aki was the best player and his and his countries success proves that. When earl actually wins something then maybe. Was messi the best player in the last World Cup maybe not but he deserved because he led his team to success. Did he change the game against Scotland ?

[@peterritchie3714]

May be the whole pre-tackle thinking process is the point to be focussed on. When will players understand if they can't make a safe tackle they shouldn't tackle. Ben Earls had great game, but that tackle penalty was a foul correctly called. So players, don't commit to tackles that you can't deliver to the letter of the law, otherwise you'll continue to hurt people.

[@kirtap2601]

Isn’t it concerning that a professional tournament can have four results influenced by poor officiating? Three in the last minutes of matches and one when it was clear that a player had stepped out before a try was scored. The financial consequences of these decisions could be significant.

[@domenicobongani4505]

Italiano, living and speaking in France and excellent English speaker

[@DaveB432]

Interesting take on taking older players. Why not take them in as coaches!

[@emqueue13]

No TMO in round 4!!! Is the TMO there to see what the officials don't, or to allow players to get away with foul play and scoring a try after a foot in touch ??!?

[@user-sd3hb6ru1w]

Haskell rant about the winning penalty needs taking in perspective. For me it was a no arms tackle, he didn’t really put his arm out to cover the effort. However the fact is there were other tackles like that not penalised and you see them at virtually every try line maul/ruck defence. What is annoying is the game gets decided, because most international teams have a kicker who can kick from that distance, on a referees call. That’s the problem Rugby Union will always have.

[@marcdaniels9079]

England fan here: the game was lost because we gifted 2 tries to France - one from a blitz aberration and one from a lineout overthrow. Penalty at 80 mins just looks/feels like the decisive moment.

[@davidwalker2402]

@@marcdaniels9079it has to be said french defence was appalling swings and roundabouts.

[@martinohnenamen6147]

No surprise i found out, after looking up the match stats, that the TMO they talked about was Whitehouse. Stickler as TMO but not so good on the pitch in another match i watch which he referreed. Whitehouse was already annoying as TMO during the WC.

[@ccw5886]

England! It is wonderful to see them back in contention.

[@kevinmcarthur1690]

Breathe James, Breathe lol

[@jackhumphries6687]

Sounds like Alex's time at boarding school.....hahaha

[@9Charcot]

Garbisi seems like a really nice lad. I really enjoyed Italy's success this year and they thoroughly deserved their wins. The Netflix series really helped me to appreciate that Italy are NOT that far off, it's just the margins between winning and losing at International level are very slim.

[@user-yl5jm3kl7r]

Oh My Word - love how the English are moaning so much about the Ben Earl tackle and When South Africans were complaining about Owens no arms tackle on Andre the Giant a few years back, we get called sore losers and whingers....mmm pot/kettle

[@mlguy8376]

Because some of you are non-stop. For big blokes on the field you have some massive pansies off the field.

[@marcdaniels9079]

I haven’t heard that much moaning tbh. Not discussed at all in my group of rugby mad friends. We talked about the 4 tries on one hand and the blitz mistake plus overthrown lineout gifting 2 tries to France on the other. Re the Boks it’s not surprising people get on their backs as they have generally the most arrogant and obnoxious fans plus of course Rassie’s video nasty. The fact that you are still dwelling on this despite winning the RWC since just proves the point. Edit: thankfully the Bok players are incredibly humble and dignified win or lose so credit to them as clearly the best team in the world.

[@shonunezekiel]

Not saying you have confirmation bias user-bunchofnumbers, but I haven't heard any moaning either amongst my rugby friends... most discussions have been about how we managed to put together a couple of good performances in the last 2 rounds, winning one and losing the other. What Hask is complaining about here (in my opinion) is not so much about what the decision was, but rather that the TMOs get too involved in the game which is increasingly being interrupted or being decided by their interventions on marginal calls (eg Scotland v France try-that-was-clearly-grounded-and-the-ref-seemed-about-to-award-it-but-TMO-overruled-because-they-could-not-see-a-grounding-in-the-replay). If you are here looking for validation, or are open to a different perspective of what people think of SA rugby, here we go: SA beat England fair and square in the last 2 world cups, and won back to back world cups because they were the best team in both tournaments, and remain the world's best team currently - it is going to be an amazing series against Ireland later this year, and will be amazing for the neutrals among us to watch 2 class teams from proud rugby nations play against each other... SA are a brilliant team with a great brand of rugby, and it is always exciting to play against them because it is a true test (most English fans feel this way)... also SA is a truly beautiful country with wonderful people (Mandela/Madiba being one of the greatest leaders of any country in history) and amazing potential to do so much good in the world. Yes, I am English 😆... hope that restores some balance in your view of how other countries view SA - best wishes from the UK my rugby friend!

[@kev63inuk]

@@marcdaniels9079bloody hell Marc , you’ve nailed that reply.

[@AbeHopwood]

Where's the moaning?

[@taksanetoshi9859]

Italy❤

[@GoodBadRugby]

🤔 Who was your player of the tournament?

[@matthewnewell1241]

Ben Earl has been outstanding

[@matthewnewell1241]

Brex and Menoncello have been awesome as well

[@jond747]

I'd say Menoncello

[@EnglishVeteran]

Ben Earl

[@FrancoisCollet-wd7cj]

@@EnglishVeteran Francois Cros unreal

[@BigG988]

a snitch in a box with a snitch button haha. nice!

[@ceiremulligan252]

Snitch in a box 😂😂😂😂 where is the side snitch 😂

[@tomhart-evija9201]

Shame about the sound issues in the Garbisi interview. Completely avoidable though.

[@user-wg9eq4ck5p]

But for an appalling refereeing decision in the SCotland France match Scotland would have finished second.

[@wilkinson83]

I still don’t understand why pundits are not talking about the fact that Marcus Smith should be our starting fly half.. he literally proves why he should be every single time he plays for England, even when he is out of position..

[@davidwalker2402]

He’s a long way from being an international fly half, reminds me of a chicken without his head.😂

[@wilkinson83]

@@davidwalker2402 respectfully he has proved your statement wrong many times before at international level.. he is the best all round 10 in England by a mile..

[@davidwalker2402]

@@wilkinson83 what has he proved ? What has he won, I would think the best 10 in England would have won something 🤣

[@wilkinson83]

@@davidwalker2402 prem with Harlequins..

[@davidwalker2402]

@@wilkinson83 maybe when he wins something on the international stage.

[@christopherchilcott2848]

England vs France should not have been a final game on super Saturday. it made no sense now had they been second game would have applied pressure to Ireland and given England a better chance to win.

[@ceiremulligan252]

Question: do rugby players get team sponsored top of the line medical aid?

[@headpeace1018]

We could be going places if the England RU would let the coach pick players outside of England. Or at least from a 6Ns country. One of the stupidest policies a country has ever had.

[@davidwalker2402]

Ireland use this rule it hasn’t done them any harm 5 6 nations in 11 years 😂

[@headpeace1018]

Did Ireland win the WC? Nevertheless, we are not Ireland and a lot of good England players are going to France for the money. Fair play, they need to live. But opening up options will help the team, obviously.@@davidwalker2402

[@headpeace1018]

@@davidwalker2402 No world cup though. And England is not Ireland so the same rules don't apply. England players are going to France. Are Ireland players. And if they were would you change your mind.

[@timslade5808]

Earl made a similar tackle on Jack Conan the previous week with two minutes to go and got away with it, this time he didn’t, was the right call

[@davidwalker2402]

Exactly and that shows how bad that referee was , but you didn’t hear the Irish whining about that.

[@johnwhite6021]

I previously left a comment on this post that I am thoroughly ashamed of. I would like to take this opportunity to apologise to Alex.

[@johnhanson5943]

Good points made by all today. Many thanks. I wish we could have a 10 nations one day - including the Boks, Georgia, perhaps a compilation Rest of Europe team and a Barbarian team (players from Europe/SA which cannot make their national teams). The 6N is over all too quickly.

[@austenpowers]

Hahahahaah Hask 😂

[@fin-ed6oj]

The TMO called that penalty because it was a large, noisy crowd in French rugby country and they wanted to see France win. There is no other explanation than that. The fact that the TMO called it in so fast without proper checks is a disgrace, and the famously biased French TV directors didn't even show the incident once... The dubious penalty that decided the entire outcome of the match, wasn't even shown on replay once, that is ridiculous. (In addition, the ref blamed it on England number 7 who wasn't even on the pitch at the time)

[@johntaylor3448]

Spot on Hask. TMO's ruining the game. No other professional sport has this ludicrous forensic lottery.

[@brunolopez8614]

I'm a bit disappointed that this guys are spending so much time criticizing the refereeing instead of talking about the magnificent match between England and France.

[@nesquik8214]

It's that type of people that are saying referees are ruining the game that are ruining the game by concentrating on the refeering with a scope

[@taksanetoshi9859]

Paolo has a strange accent. Did he live outside Italy for ages?

[@keithspencer4554]

Love Haskell’s rant about the penalty (FYI Nigel Owens explains on his video why it can be called as a penalty; I think it was ridiculous FWIW) is wonderful. Welcome to what it like to be a Scotland fan watching tries not be given, 14 penalties in a row, Irish blockers being ignored or held-up tries be given etc etc. The standard of refereeing over the last 18 month has been terrible. Inconsistent, miss obvious stuff, call marginal stuff to change games and so on. And not just against Scotland. Sure Scotland are the epitome of inconsistent, but none of this is helped by referees and TMOs just being terrible. I should add that it feels like there are two issues. A lot for the refs are lacking experience and it feels like Wold Rugby have asked refs to referee in a certain way which can change from week to week and so what we’re left with is a bit of a mess. As a long time fan it’s just hard to know what is going to happen and it’s all over the place.

[@craigmitchell8114]

At the moment, US rugby works university backwards through genuine rugby players and failed other athletes.How many US schools have rugby teams.Anyone who chooses to invest in the future,invest in school rugby.Just watch South Africa school rugby

[@matthewdobson100]

video referees and their application have been runing the game for years. too many interventions which last far too long looking repeadedly at the same thing over and over without making a decision. if it takes that long it's not an obvious error and they sould get on with the game. I've said for a long time that they should have an NFL style system for video reviews. basically a limited challenge system for coaches where the ref goes to a booth and has about 1minute max to review from different angles etc and make a decision if there's clear evidence to overturn his on field decision. back this up with the video official looking for legitimate dangerous play. I'd also not allow replays on the big screens whilst decisions are being made as that just leads to players getting invovled and disuputing the on field decisions further.

[@padraiglocke8844]

Earls and Sheehan two best players of the tournament especially all the tries Sheehan got out of his position, that’s unbelievable but looking long term , France are bringing though there Under 20s to Seniors , and as a Irish Rugby nut living in New York, I can’t see us doing much going forward with the talent there bringing through , the last 2 under 20 World Cup teams is basically there senior team now , freighting stuff, Ringrose and Hugo injury’s made us look very ordinary against England and Scotland, congrats Peter o Mahoney on a unbelievable career, he has to retire on top now.Farrell has to start blooding our young talents , Pendergast has to be our new 10 , Crowley not good enough!!It’s about winning world cups for Irish rugby!!!

[@kev63inuk]

Don’t think any nation can do much about the french , regards the strength in depth they have , but I think they will revert to type and implode many times these next four years . I predict Edwards will leave before the next World Cup as his frustration will boil over and they will bottle many important games like they always have . There the straws I’m clutching at for now anyway . 😂

[@padraiglocke8844]

@@kev63inuk France can basically buy any player now in World Rugby, especially the islanders, get them into a Top 14 team or Academy, all the money is in France, Ireland has a massive problem, all our best players come from Leinster Schoolboys , that’s the hot bed of competition, so the contracts are limited, Munster are not a shadow of a force they use to be when I was living in Ireland, the French system is better of developing there Under 20s , I think Ireland, England, Scotland, Wales , France , South Africa, Australia and New Zealand do a Champions League Tournament, maybe a super league, the 6 nations and Tri Nations is not making the sport a world force like it should be in comparison to Football, the game needs to grow!!

[@davidwalker2402]

Obviously not that much of a nut, Ireland under 20s have not been beaten since 2020 there is a conveyor belt of players coming through and playing for Munster Leinster ulster and Connaught , prendergast is way too young Ireland are not England we don’t force youngsters on to play full international only to turf them out when they get turned over by real pros. I don’t think Ive ever read such rubbish on any podcast, Ireland just won back to back 6 nations scoring 80+ points more than any other team with stats through the whole competition almost double of every other team. SA won the World Cup losing to Ireland beating France by a single point scraped home by a point against England and beat ABs with 14 men by a single point, they finished WC badly do you think they’re finished. BS. Ringrose didn’t play until last game 10 minutes, how did that affect the french Italian or welsh game ….

[@padraiglocke8844]

This is great work. Molann an obair an fear! You're really moving things along, fair play to you - Nár lagaí Dia do lámh. As I’m writing to you here in New York, I know nothing mate , you have it the nail on the head!

[@davidwalker2402]

@@padraiglocke8844 they call it talking through your arse , any clown who says the Leinster number 3 / 10 should be the Irish 10 is full of sh1t.

[@daithipol]

POM played his ONLY international worthy game v Scotland. It was a travesty that he was captain. He was told its over, thats why he put in an effort. He kept Baird out of the that side a man more physical and athletic. He is small and light. Youd be surprised the ex international players i know are baffled at his selection, and an ex munster player now coach who will deny it ;). The stats dont lie. Good captain but we wernt short of leaders...

[@Kenny-zn6dl]

Hask you're ranting again, referee's get things wrong, did you rant about the linesmen missing England players foot in touch before drop goal against the irish?? It's over move on!!!

[@paulwoodman7749]

snitch in the box and side snitch - ruining the game

[@mbark2467]

Haskell you’re talking utter BS about the penalty at the end. It’s life and death at that point in the game - you don’t take any grey area risks that are open to interpretation - pretend it’s the World Cup final - the ref’s going to be lightning on it. You put a foot wrong, you lose the World Cup - if that’s you you look like an idiot. If it becomes an event you end up talking about on your show - you’ve already lost. 100% there’s other alternatives to that tackle - mental to suggest there are no other options at all 😂Lessons learned review at the end of that game of what you can control as Ben Earl and the team you say I’m not going to put myself in that situation so I don’t cost the team.

[@johnhanson5943]

Why not take a final to a much better place than America in Europe where rugby is a very minor sport but growing, eg Madrid, Lisbon, Amsterdam, etc, etc.? Keep away from America fully, imo.

[@RaySqw785]

England playing a struggling France B side and losing is suddently world best, lol losers!