The genealogy of Jesus: was He the son of David?

[@markytemp]

Very good work, I was hoping you would respond. I learned this some 30 years ago. I'm an adopted follower of the Jewish Messiah. Keep up the good work. 🖖✝️🔥

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, Robert!

[@cloudsoftorah6167]

What does come from your body mean? 2 Samuel 7:12 12 “When your days are fulfilled and you rest with your fathers, I will set up your seed after you, who will come from your body, and I will establish his kingdom. Why are you trying to go around a clear verse and ignore what God told David? It does not say adoption, does it? Psalm 132:11 The Lord has sworn in truth to David; He will not turn from it: “I will set upon your throne the fruit of your body. Fruit of your body!! That is biological, that not an adoption process.

[@j.braunstein4599]

2 Samuel 16:11 also confirms this.

[@Everyday_Fitness_Solutions_LLC]

According to early tradition. Jesus is a biological descendant of David through Mary. Mary was an only child and her parents were Joachim (from the tribe of Judah) and Anna (of Levite descent through her father; she’s also Elizabeth’s aunt) Joachim which means “raised by YHWH” is abbreviated as Eliakim or Eli which means “whom God will raise up”. Eli is translated Heli in English (the original Greek doesn’t have the “H”.) and is represented in the genealogy recorded in Luke 3:23 as “Heli”. Therefore Jesus legally and biologically fulfills God’s promise to David (Acts 16:17; Amos 9:11,12) and to Eve and the Serpent (the proto-evangelion; Genesis 3:15).

[@cloudsoftorah6167]

@@Everyday_Fitness_Solutions_LLC You do realize you just quoted things Jesus never accomplished and to say tradition would be something not found in the TNK. Do you accept the Oral Torah aka Talmud? If not don’t tell me about any tradition. If you accept the Talmud it has some things to say about Jesus that you would not like. Catch 22

[@thatethiopiandude5077]

Christ is the biological descendant of King David through his mother

[@humanheart5229]

....it's kinda wild that they acknowledge Yeshua not having an earthly father and not have their mind blown but, instead, they use that fact as a reason He is not the Messiah. Like they are thinking "....God may have miraculously created you as the Messiah but WE over-rule that cuz they paternity hasn't come in yet." 🙃

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Ha! That's a great point. R.

[@hashi856]

@@TheBiblicalRoots No, it's not. Jesus being born of a virgin is accepted for the sake of argument. No Jew actually believes it

[@Salazar73257]

Unbelievable why they look to be desperate not to want Jesus Christ as their King ? May God have mercy

[@waynehobbs5175]

Well explained. My brain had gone down the Mary line from David in the absence of a father (virgin birth) but my knowledge is small but growing through the Holy Spirit directing me to learn from you and other Bible Christians.

[@thetruth871]

please watch this video on Utube, about the genealogy of Jesus what this Messianic Rabbi says video>>>>>>(SHOCKING GENEALOGY OUTREACH - MESSIANIC RABBI ZEV PORAT)

[@mf4674]

Thanks a lot for this beautiful presentation. Lord Jesus Christ bless you and your work. Be blessed in the Name of The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit our Beautiful Triune God !!!

[@StephenLoney]

And I will put enmity Between you and the woman, And between your seed and her seed; He shall bruise you on the head, And you shall bruise him on the heel.” - Genesis 3:15

[@markytemp]

The protoevangelium. Amazing the Rabbinic Jew "teacher" doesn't know these things, but didn't Jeshua say that God's Word is concealed from those who don't have the Helper.

[@tactup23]

This narrative from Genesis could just as easily be eluding to the future event at Sinai where among other things, we were given the means to deal with sin. It’s allegory so at the least it causes us to think.

[@davbra12]

Thank you so much for this video! I saw the debate with rabbi Singer. When he pointed out that specific objection, it caught my attention, and baffled me a bit quite honestly. The info you include here from the Tanakh is very helpful and makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the clarification!

[@jnastally196]

Isn't this argument solved in Hebrew Matthew? Our modern Bibles say that there's 14 intervals between the generations to Jesus. Count them there's only 13 in the last one. While looking at Hebrew Matthew, there is 14 and the line says that Mary's father was Joseph (#14) and that she married a man named Joseph, thus 14 generations, tribal affiliation and kingship affiliation.

[@sidneysalcido9314]

Also one thing to add from your argument about Jehoachin at the 11:30 mark. In Luke, usually considered Mary's genealogy, her bloodline runs from David to his older son Nathan, not Solomon. Solomon was chosen by David to reign, but Nathan would have been considered the older son which would have made him the legal heir of the throne. So, Jesus actually has the right to the throne from the legal heir of Nathan, the older son of David, but also, from the adoption to Joseph's family, through Solomon as well, withouth inheriting the curse of Jehoachin if it still applied at the time of Joseph.

[@tactup23]

General comment here: In all fairness, Rabbi Singer is playing in a Christian sandbox and doing his best to play by Christian rules. He has his personal biases like all of us do. He has done an incredible job trying to search the Christian scriptures. Not many Christians would read and study the Talmud with the same vigor. For example, Christian’s and Jews use the same English words but imply different meanings. Christian terminology seems to carry exclusive definitions and this can lead to confusion. As for us Jews here are a few: -Messiah doesn’t mean one who dies for the worlds sins -Salvation doesn’t mean go to heaven -Prophet doesn’t mean future fortune teller -Torah doesn’t mean any book written in the Bible -Tanakh isn’t synonymous with divine words from God -Heaven and Hell are not absolutes but possibilities -Repentance doesn’t mean ask for forgiveness -Eternity is an idea not an absolute -inspired by god doesn’t mean written by god -Laws have different levels than “moral and ethical “ -prayer doesn’t mean begging and pleading -Pagan doesn’t mean evil -Satan doesn’t mean opposing supernatural power -Priest doesn’t mean every Levite ever born -Angel doesn’t necessarily mean otherworldly creatures -covenant means a free will agreement -A sign of a covenant is not the covenant itself -Sacrifice doesn’t = sin & sorrow -joining a covenant with god is different than a covenant with nations, bloodlines, or individuals -The list goes on 🙂

[@elroi8325]

True doesn't mean true wth

[@brianpope5596]

Does Rabbi Singer ever speak on the shroud of Turin? I haven't seen it.

[@biblicaluniteryen]

He did

[@denismclean8382]

Solid work my brother! Thank you.

[@rickbailey4954]

Haha I knew this would bother you and you’d have to mark a video. Bravo, good job here. Particularly the last point.

[@LloydsofRochester]

Thankyou! This is very helpful.

[@laraalkhouli9596]

What an amazing video. Praise the Lord for His undeniable truth. No matter to which parent one would argue, Jesus came from the seed of David.

[@aleczemouli2905]

Sorry but just think 2 seconds about yoyr example of levirate marriage. It says clearly that if the brother takes his dead brother widow as a wife and they have a child together, the child will be part of the tribe. OFF COURSE, since they were brother, it means they have the same father, which means that they are from the same tribe. Thus, the widow having a child with either brother will have the same result when it comes to tribal lineage! That's why the Torah said so, so the tribal lineage could be saved. That's the all point. The levirate marriage does not help the case of Jesus genealogy at all....

[@p4radigm989]

Thank you Sir. May the Lord bless you.

[@geraldcity310]

What most people do not realize...if, Joseph is Jesus physical biological father...He would have inherited "sin nature" all humanity have received from Adam. Thereby, which would disqualify him as being, the sacrificial lamb of God "without spot and blemish" according to the Old Testament...thus, who would be in need of a redeemer himself...For, according to the book of Hebrews..."without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin"...And, as Jesus said of himself "I have come to fulfill the law"

[@BavidDigg]

Are you saying that sin is passed down through men only? It's like some sort of y chromosomal defect?

[@amg7692]

You helped me understanding the first page of the NT. many thanks and blessings 🤍✝️🙏🏼

[@joannmarie1971]

Thank you for this video...

[@folkeholtz6351]

There is more to this. First is Lukes genealogy is not Marys linage but Josefs according to the Churchfather Eusebius. It is levirate line. It is Jakob who give life to Josef but in Lukes version his father is rekoned to be Heli. In Matthew the tribe-belonging is Judah through Josef and the whole family is of Judah. ( Which Include Mary and Jesus) If not so Jesus should be of the tribe of Levi. Marys mother was from the tribe of Levi and also Mary grandmother. Therefore Luke says that Elisabeth who was from the tribe of Levi was also relative with Mary as a cousin. So by marriage Mary became belonging to the tribe of Judah JUST AS ELISHEBA THE SISTER OF THE HEAD OF THE TRIBE OF JUDAH NAMED NAHSHON, BY THAT ELISHEBA MARRIED THE HIGHSPRIEST ARON SHE BECOME BELONGING TO THE TRIBE OF LEVI. So Jesus is from the tribe of Judah through Mary who become converted into the tribe of Judah through marriage. See how strong conversion is

[@BavidDigg]

I think one problem with this is both Matthew and Luke make it clear in their genealogies that Joseph was not Jesus' father. More likely there was an older tradition that Jesus was biologically decended from David, but then later on virgin birth traditions develop (which is why this doctrine doesn't show up in earlier writings). Thus Luke and Matthew preserve an interesting tension between Jesus being decended from David, but also born of a virgin.

[@BavidDigg]

Also Mary was not a descendent of King David this is not recorded in the New Testament.

[@slapenindepolder]

Even the passage in Marc 7:19 “purging all meats” is a later addition. Meaning Jesus never said it. Mar 7:19 Because it entereth not into his heart, but into the belly, and goeth out into the draught, purging all meats?

[@lanabowers5332]

The genealogies in Matthew & Luke are of Mary and Joseph, & they do not conflict or contradict. The genealogical list in Matthew from David to Jacob-Heli (spanning about 1000 years) contains 27 generations of 40 years each, so as to comply with the 40-year royal generational standard Luke, on the other hand, gives 40 generations a more comprehensible 25 years each. Hence, Luke places Jesus in the 20th generation from Zerubbabel, whereas Matthew places him in the 11th generation from Zerubbabel. SUMMARY: Matthew--27 generations of 40 years from Solomom. Patriarchal--Zerubbabel's father's line. Luke--40 generations of 25 years from Nathan. Matriarchal- Zerubbabel's mother's line. Both Solomon and Nathan are sons of David. Their lines converge at Zerubbabel, then diverge. Zerubbabel had 2 sons, Abiud and Rhesa. Matthew goes from Abiud, Mary's line. Luke goes from Rhesa, Joseph's line. Also, Mary and Joseph were related. Joseph's mother was Mary's great-aunt Gadat's son. Mary's mother is Hannah. Her father is Joachim (Yonakhir) the Elias Patriarch. Joseph's mother was Gadat. His father was Heli, the Jacob Patriarch. 'Jacob' was a community distinction. It was a title; so Heli would be called Jacob-Heli. Joachim's mother was Sabrath (Sabartia). His father was Matthat the Zadok. Heli's father was Matthan ( descended from Mattathias (Tobias) the Temple governor.

[@thewarriorwounds3124]

@@lanabowers5332 please show me where Mary's name is mentioned in the genealogy of Luke's gospel..

[@Jid0616]

Leverite marriage didn’t make the child the son of the dead brother. He just inherited the dead brothers possessions. His tribal affiliation was through his biological father (who incidentally would always be the same tribe as the dead brother because leverite marriage is only to a paternal brother) Numbers chapter 1 states that the “fathers houses” determine tribal identity. No where do we see adoption changing one’s tribe. The case in chronicles isn’t relaying tribal identity. In fact, the author of chronicles included it specifically to show that the children were not tribal dependents of king David. The mother only relays Jewishness, never tribal identity. Just never happens. Zelafchads daughters inherited him. They were from his tribe, but would have joined their husbands tribes if they married outside Menasseh. There was a discussion about this and Hashem said they cannot marry out for this very reason so the tribe wouldn’t lose the land. We aren’t cherry picking verses. We are making a steel man argument: assuming your text is true, it blows up your entire religion. Jews believe that the gospels and the entire NT are all made up. Virgin birth is clearly taken from pagan sources. Son of god (Hercules), ascending to heaven (Romulus). Jeconiah repented so Hashem lifted the curse. Of course you Claim to not believe in the oral Torah. But the Talmud states that he repented. Funny how some missionaries use that Talmud to prove that the geology isn’t invalid. Talk about “cherry picking.” All of this talk about the lineage books has no source. There wasn’t some book that proved who the messiah was. Isaiah 2 and 11 state that we will know who the messiah is when Hashem brings him. He will do all the things that JC never did. I pray that you find your way back to Hashem and you abandon your Idolatry.

[@Mikha335]

Great presentation! You broke it down and dissected the real issues wonderfully!

[@psygit]

Thoroughly enjoyed this presentation, thank you!!

[@GoodGodFatherGGF]

Brilliant video! Very concise! Breath of fresh air! You're awesome!

[@joannmarie1971]

Didn't Tamar produce the signet ring when Judah wanted to burn her at the stake?

[@cloudsoftorah6167]

Levitate Marriage still has a mother and father producing the child. And again David was told something specific, If a man dies and has no son, meaning there is a father present, but he dies. The bloodline of the woman who married the Egyptian has nothing to do with the specific prophecy given to David!! If Joseph and Mary were From David, why would God have to interfere with the pregnancy? Too many problems and acrobatics to prove a point that doesn’t even matter. No prophecies fulfilled, The opposite occurred concerning gathering Israel and bringing peace to the earth Isaiah 11:1-12 Isaiah 2:1-4 Vs James 1:1 Matthew 10:34 The Christian NT is full and practically made up of cherry picked verses from TNK

[@2deepPodcast]

Where does the scripture say that Joseph was chosen by God? Nowhere it said Mary was.

[@theartzscientist8012]

What we know about Mary and David for a fact: Not one single thing. We don’t know that either existed. Assuming they did exist, we have no extra-biblical records of either. The records that do exist (the books of the New Testament) do not record a lineage for Mary, which is not surprising since the pre-exilic Jews were patrilineal. The only lineage we are given in Jesus’ family is that of Joseph, someone to whom he was technically not related. Interestingly enough, Joseph’s lineage is given twice, and they are mutually exclusive. Both agree, for example, that Joseph was descended from David, but they disagree on which son of David the line passed through.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

We have no extra-biblical evidence that Abraham ever existed. Does that impact your belief that he was a real historical figure? RLS

[@theartzscientist8012]

@@TheBiblicalRoots if there’s no linage of Mary recorded, then she can’t be from the line of David.

[@theartzscientist8012]

@@TheBiblicalRoots if Jesus is from the lineage of David, he has to be Joseph’s biological son to come from the bloodline.

[@Dylan-wn7dm]

Thank you for sharing. I just found your channel, God Bless 🕊🤍💛

[@josephdeisrael]

Minute 12:07 actually there are historical records of exilarchs, those descended from David, leading Jewish communities throughout history. These exilarchs have copies of their records brought from temple times. Even today, individuals within certain communities know they have Davidic lineage. And they do not intermarry. This is common knowledge among certain Jewish communities. And within Israel many of these Davidic descendants have held leadership positions. By what evidence can you defend your position?

[@tbishop4961]

Have you seen any of these documents? I've heard the claim before

[@josephdeisrael]

@@tbishop4961 I can link. Give me a few.

[@josephdeisrael]

@@tbishop4961 davidicdynasty.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Dayan_tree-1024x698.gif

[@franklindzioba13]

Remember that Singer also dismissed Jews who weren't religious Jews as being real Jews. So to dismiss Yeshua he promotes Jewish parentage and to dismiss certain Jewish opinion he downplays Jewish parentage.

[@richardtarr8145]

It's not "lineage" per se that qualifies a contender to claim Messiahship, but Royal Lineage. In 2 Kings 11:1-3 the daughters of the King were not threatened by Athaliah because only males are Royal Seed (therefore Mary is excluded). Jesus' father would have to be a direct descendant of David's to be "Son of David". Don't get me wrong, I believe Jesus is the Messiah, but the NT genealogies are bogus in making that determination. I believe what Peter believed in Acts 2:30, that Jesus is the fruit of David's loins (not from someone else - see Rom 1:3).

[@achildofthelight4725]

He was in the image of david... beloved, a king, and mirrored much of him, same as Joseph the dreamer.

[@cappiejoe1969]

Great video, thanks!!

[@increaseyourknowledgenetwork23]

God bless you abundantly 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@hiltonschultze1094]

Does Isaiah 55 : 3, that" God would make an everlasting covenant with you, my faithful love promised to David," confirm Gods will. Jesus confirms the covenant in Matthew 26 : 28.

[@llaka79]

Idolatrous faiths confuse Gd with human beings: either that Gd becomes human, or that humans become Gd. In biblical history, one sees this confusion with Pharaoh, and with Haman, as well as with Antiochus, the Syrian King against whom the Maccabees rebelled. Contrary to pagan thought, throughout the Bible we are taught not to confuse Gd and Man. For example, in Hosea 11:9, Gd explicitly tells us, ‘…for I am Gd and not a man.’ All of the great Jewish figures of the Hebrew Bible - the Patriarchs and Matriarchs, Moses, King David and others - are shown as fully human, not divine. Throughout the Hebrew Scriptures, there is a sharp contrast made between Gd on one hand, and human beings on the other. First of all, there is always a reprimand against any human being who claims to be Gd, or Divine, as we read in Ezekiel 28:2: Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Etrnl Gd; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am Gd, I sit in the seat of Gd, in the midst of the seas; yet thou art a man, and not Gd, though thou set thine heart as the heart of Gd. [Ezekiel 28:2] Then there is the verse from Hosea in which Gd specifically tells us that Gd is not a human being: I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I am Gd and not a man; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city. [Hosea 11:9] In Numbers 23:19, Gd specifically tells us that if Gd were a human being, then He would be a liar, as all human beings do lie on occasion. Furthermore, this verse tells us that if Gd were a human being, He would be in need of repentance because all human beings sin at some point in their lives. Finally, this verse also tells us that if Gd were a human being, then He would make promises, but not keep them: Gd is not a man that he should lie; neither the Son of Man that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good? [Numbers 23:19] Gd is the same, Gd does not lie, and Gd is Gd and Human Beings are Human Beings, and Gd does not become a Human Being, and Human Beings do not become Gd. Perhaps this idea of confusing Gd and man also explains Christian belief in the Virgin Birth - the joining of Gd and the human woman Mary, who supposedly became pregnant without the sex act in some mysterious way not related to reality as we know it. Numerous gods and heroes in the ancient world were the product of a human mother and a god for a father., Heracles’ mother was the human woman Alcmene and his father was Zeus. Dionysus’ human mother was Semele and his father was Zeus. Perseus’ human mother was Danae and his father was Zeus. As a matter of fact, Zeus made Danae pregnant without the sex act, and therefore her pregnancy was a form of immaculate conception, and her son’s birth was like a virgin birth, in that it was not the result of the sexual act. This confusion, the mixing of man with gods, was common in the ancient pagan world.

[@thatethiopiandude5077]

so why does God appear in human form in genesis 18?

[@thatethiopiandude5077]

there isn't a single virgin birth story in pagan greek mythology

[@thatethiopiandude5077]

ih the idea of an incarnation is idolatrous, why does the bible call the messiah YHVH?

[@Dylan-wn7dm]

Amen

[@richardlott579]

Leverite Marriage, doesn't the woman marrying the brother keep the linage in the family since they are brothers?

[@andreipopa9180]

⚠‼ Very explicit. I would like to recap and complete a little: 1. The Davidicity of the Virgin Mary is confirmed precisely by Joseph, otherwise he would not have accepted to take her. 2. The Davidic line through Solomon is cut at Jehonia (Jeremiah 22:24, 30), and if Joseph had been Christ's father then it would have been much easier for the jews to deny Christ's right to be king. Therefore, the only rightful heir of King David is not Solomon, but Nathan (2 Samuel 5:14; Luke 3:31), from the genealogy of the Virgin, Most Holy Mother of God! (Luke 1:48)☺ This also fits perfectly with Daniel 7:14, because the greek word used in the LXX for worshipping the Son of Man is λατρεύουσα, meaning latria, a word used only for God alone(!!), so the Messiah could not be a mere man, but God himself incarnate, not a human hypostasis but the Logos that took only human nature. So Christ is the same Son of the Father but in a human form too. If Messiah would be a mere man then it would be not the one from Daniel's vision, because a mere man could not be worshipped as God too. That's why the Sanhedrists were scandalized by His "blasphemy" (Matthew 26: 64-66), but Christ only confirmed the fact that He is not just any man, but Yahweh himself coming on the clouds of heaven. Christ in our midst! (Humbly, an Eastern Orthodox Christian)☺

[@satmat6566]

The most logical and scriptural response is that God commanded marriage within the tribe meaning both Joseph and Mary are from Judah and were from Bethlehem since they had to go there for the census ! So Jesus is biologically a descendant of David through Mary ! Joseph is his father by adoption since Jesus is the Son of God !!! The aim of Genealogies in the old Testament was to carry the righteous lineage and the Father’s inheritance . In every possible way the ultimate goal was to point to Jesus the Christ ! 13:56

[@nickg5010]

The issue of a Messiah is so complex and controversial that my belief that the Jesus of The New Testament is a fictional entity is only reinforced as more of the complexity comes to light. However, if a Messiah does one day come into the world, he will find God (his father) has prepared the way for him. This includes the part God has written for him. '...and you shall call his name "Jesus".

[@ilservini]

Yeshua came at a time when genealogies could still be traced; Rabbi Tovia Singer

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Indeed! R.

[@patricialauriello3805]

I always thought, and was told by a priest, that Mary was a levite. Her aunt Elizabeth was a daughter of Aaron.

[@thatethiopiandude5077]

Mary is related to Elizabeth by the mother's side. Mary's father was from the tribe of Judah while her mother was from the tribe of Levi. since tribal identity is typically passed down by the father, Mary is from the tribe of Judah

[@patricialauriello3805]

@@thatethiopiandude5077 you are correct.

[@craiglittle7367]

One genealogy in NT was through Jesus’ mother’s line the other his adopted father’s line.

[@salpezzino7803]

not true.

[@craiglittle7367]

@@salpezzino7803 Yes. True.

[@salpezzino7803]

Not True, Luke 3:23 Jesus, when he began his ministry, was about thirty years of age, being the son (as was supposed) of Joseph, the son of Heli. - SON OF JOSEPH

[@craiglittle7367]

@@salpezzino7803 The line is Mary’s. Joseph was Heli’s son in law. The father of Joseph was Jacob. Mt 1:16 It was not uncommon in Hebrew genealogical listings to speak of a son-in-law as a son. There is plenty of information out there on this. I’m not debating this with you. The line is Mary’s. Period. Take care,

[@craiglittle7367]

@Dustin Neely I couldn’t care less why the “church fathers” taught. They were, and are, wrong on a lot. Including who God is. Luke lines was through Mary.

[@geraldjohnson8871]

Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish Questions,and Genealogies, and Contentions, and Strivings about the Law; for they are Unprofitable and Vain. Shalowm and Amen.! Titus Chapter 3.

[@BiblicalApologetics]

Some constructive thoughts here? The cross examine is where you are suppose to answer these questions, so if there was less back and forth jokes there would have been plenty of time. Second, "the NT says so" isnt a sufficient answer to non believers. This is something mainstream Christians do far too often and that hurts us in the long run. As NT believer and one who defends it against anti-missionaries, I can assure you that not explaining HOW the NT is right is what will cause more people to fall away and into Tovia's hands than anything else. Why? Because "Christians truly must not have an answer and ergo he must not be the messiah." I refuse to allow the enemy to plant seeds of doubt in my garden, put up a guard fence to prevent that by being able to properly explain why the NT is correct. regarding Numbers 27, the daughters are to remarry BACK into their own tribe(numbers 36:7) in order for the fathers inheritance to transfer to the daughter and stay within the tribal nation. Since Jarha was a male Servant(he would have been a proselyte) like that of what Abraham was going to give his servant until the Lord provided the promised Isaac, then that is liken to a conversion and would be counted within that tribe. You are not allowed to transfer tribal inheritance from one tribe to another(Numbers 36) it is forbidden since then the boundaries from one tribe to another would be removed. How can this, along with the virgin birth be applied to Yeshua? 1- Mary did get a husband from her own tribe(Joseph was of Judah) and while he was from a different son of Judah, that makes no difference, he was from Judah) so, it would seem that Mary had no brothers, or else it would have passed to them. ((This seems to be confirmed in the Peshitta.)) Since, if her father only had a daughter(Mary) then the tribal name of Judah would pass to her firstborn(Jesus) I have videos on this if you are interested where I talk about it. 2- Matthew and Luke both speak of Jesus' bloodline. Yes, Mary would be included in that but still Jesus' bloodline. We must not ignore that the chapter in Matthew starts of by saying "this is the genealogy of Jesus the messiah..." the One in Luke tells us two things. Not only do we know he had a right to the throne via his Matthew bloodline, but Luke hammers it down that via adoption ie legal authority to something, he is still of Judah. Showing unbroken line backing all the way up to Adam and God. Why is this important? Well, remember the promise God made to the Serpent in the Garden> one day there would come a woman whose son would crush the head of the Serpent. This woman's seed(virgin birth) as a male child is only called "her seed" in Genesis, which seems to confirm this "new thing" that God will do in the famous New covenant chapter in Jeremiah 31:22 ....That is why Luke 3 bloodline is important. You can find a lot of the info on the Sanhedrin and the record keeping here on this video I made. How will Jews know who messiah is and if he is from David? || Countering anti-missionaries. As for cherry picking, yes. They are not allow to say, "I believe this part of the NT but this other part I dont" You cant use the NT against itself for your argument with what you are choosing to believe and what you aren't.

[@Pverb623]

Of coarse Rav.Singer answer was enough, because you truly were only looking for the answer that you wanted, which he did not provide. That is the Genealogy of Joseph, your creating sophisms, and Joseph was not the seed father of Jesit, which then, why would the genealogy of Joseph matter to Jesit. Your argument is not logical nor biblical.

[@MrBigdave54]

According to Jesus' prophesy about end time Jerusalem receiving the antichrist as their messiah, will his genealogy be applicable? John 5:43 ESV - I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him.

[@ctdnew]

Interesting good work

[@samael5782]

That sounds like grasping at straws. Like levirate marriage is completely irrelevant and being Jewish does not make you from the tribe of Judah.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

Just curious if the Obeying Fathers word is so wrong, Which one of the 2000 plus denominations is the right one ? there can only one ? Baptist? Pentecostal ?

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

What's up, Macaroni? What makes you think that all believers in Jesus have to be part of the same denomination? Followers of Jesus are called to unity, not uniformity. "For just as the body is one and has many members, and all the members of the body, though many, are one body, so it is with Christ. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body-Jews or Greeks, slaves or free-and all were made to drink of one Spirit . . . But as it is, God arranged the members in the body, each one of them, as he chose. If all were a single member, where would the body be? As it is, there are many parts, yet one body." (1 Cor 12:12-13, 19-20)

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Only one body... Israel. You're not only Israel but you obey the law.... EVERY commandment in the human titled NT originates from the Torah... Jesus came to fully preach, Not do away with the Law. Those unlearned in Scripture will say, See Jesus gave us a new Commandment False.... Thats the English translated verse.... For this is the message which ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another: Thats not new... 1 John 3:11

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

This teaching proves using Scripture ALONE that there is only one body.... Israel and we're grafted into Israel when we come to faith. Romans 11. Grafted in started in the Exodus.... Dispensation theology is one Satan's greatest masterpieces. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4OvY5uQiNV-e6c@@TheBiblicalRoots

[@derjogderjog8031]

If one studies these genalogies they are not even close to the same. All you have to do is review the genalogies as listed in Wikipedia and see the drastic differences and they have several illustrations tp point out all the problems.... Moreover, these authors would not have any of this information available that far back. By the way God had promised in the Psalms that David's seed would rule Israel forever...and that certainly did not happen. Finally, even if you want to fool yourself as Jesus being from David there are about a hundred other criteria Jesus did not meet. AS a non-believer it makes no difference to me, but I always thought it was quite selfish of the Christians to Identify the Jews own messiah. Should they not know better who is the messiah.

[@mandalee2012]

Since you are using the Torah for your argument, I assume you believe the truth that it was never done away with according to Messiah’s own words? Also, just because there are ways someone could be i lncluded in a tribe even tho he wasnt physically of that lineage, doesnt make it the case automatically for Yeshua. I believe Yeshua was Messiah, however he was born a human of human parents, following prophecy of being the line of David. Nothing in prophecy says he has to be God to be Messiah. God Hinself says He is not a man, He does not change, and scripture says no one has seen him. Mary was a young maiden who hadn’t yet had her cycle (almah) and once betrothed the couple is married according to Jewish wedding customs. They consummated it, but hadn’t had the big public celebration, or “come together” meaning in the public eye. Since mary hadnt yet menstruated it would be highly unlikely to conceive on their first time but because God’s favor was amidst the situation, she did, and the angel both put her mind and Joseph’s at ease. We must look at this with a Hebraic mindset and not try to apply our modern understanding to antiquity.

[@miroslavmatijevic6185]

Coniah "will not enjoy success during his LIFETIME" not FOREVER! Also, none of his offspring will rule IN JUDAH. (verse 30) If we think about context, it seems to me that these words mean that none of descendants of Coniah will again enjoy the earthly luxuries as a king of Judah! But, since Daniel prophesied about heavenly ruler and Isaiah about the one who "had no stately form or majesty that might catch our attention, no special appearance that we should want to follow him", everything fits. In a sense, Coniah did enjoy success AFTER his lifetime, and Jesus renounce earthly luxuries and become ruler in heaven!

[@springtown24]

The Talmum agrees that the curse was removed, see comments Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 37b Rab Judah said: Exile makes remission for three things, for it is written, Thus saith the Lord etc. He that abideth in this city shall die by the sword and by the famine and by the pestilence; but he that goeth out and falleth away to the Chaldeans who beseige you he shall live and his life shall be unto him for a prey.31 R. Johanan said: Exile atones for everything, for it is written, Thus saith the Lord, write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days, for no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah.32 Whereas after he [the king] was exiled, it is written, And the sons of Jechoniah, - the same is Assir - Shealtiel his son etc.33 [He was called] Assir,34 because his mother conceived him in prison. Shealtiel,35 because God did not plant him36 in the way that others are planted. We know by tradition that a woman cannot conceive in a standing position Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 38a yet she1 did conceive standing.2 Another interpretation: Shealtiel, because God obtained3 [of the Heavenly court] absolution from His oath.4 Zerubbabel [was so called] because he was sown in Babylon.5 But [his real name was] Nehemiah the son of Hachaliah. And this is what we read in Leviticus Rabbah, XIX:6 (5th-6th c. AD): …Shabbethai said: He [Jeconiah] did not move thence before the Holy One, blessed be He, pardoned him all his sins. Referring to this occasion Scripture has said: Thou art all fair, my love, and there is noblemish in thee (S.S. IV, 7). A Heavenly Voice went forth and said to them:‘Return, ye backsliding children, I will heal your backslidings’ (Jer. III, 22). (Soncino Midrash Rabbah, Volume 4, p. 249) Even the renowned medieval Jewish rabbi and scholar Rashi held this view: a signet: Engraved and sealed in the flesh of My arm. I will remove you: Cf. (supra 12:3) “Draw them out (התִקֵם) like sheep to the slaughter” (Jos. 8:6) “Until we have drawn (התִקֵינוּ) them.” And the ‘nun’ is superfluous. And, according to the Midrash Aggadah (Pesikta d’Rav Kahana, p. 163a): In the place to which he was removed (נִתַּק), there HE WAS RECTIFIED (נִתְקַן) , for he repented in Babylon, and the Holy One, blessed be He, APPLIED FOR ABSOLUTION OF THE OATH HE HAD SWORN, “Inscribe this man childless.” and Zerubbabel was born to him in Babylon, and it was said to him through the prophet (Haggai 2:23), “On that day… I will take you, Zerubbabel, and I will make you as a signet,” directed toward what He said to his father, “Though… be a signet on My right arm,… I will remove him (sic).” (The Complete Jewish Bible with Rashi Commentary

[@Leon-jp7ch]

Another thing that should also be mentioned here is the claim that Jesus is G-d. if that is indeed the case. why didn't he fix the insignificant contradictions that appears in the Tanakh and restore the genealogy that was lost? discrepancy and copies errors arose long before Jesus come on the scene!!

[@mrsmorgann0000]

@Leon - It’s not a claim. It’s biblical truth. *For in Him [Messiah] dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. - Colossians 2:9* *I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that *I AM*, ye shall die in your sins. - John 8:24* Followers of Christ worship and identify Jesus as GOD because: - GOD the Father identified Jesus as GOD. - Read all of Heb 1. - Jesus identified Himself as the First and Last - Isa 41:4; 44:6; 48:12-13; Heb 1:10; Rev 1:17-18; 2:8; 22:13 - Jesus identified Himself as I AM - Exo 3:14; Mark 14:62; John 8:24; 58; 13:19; 18:5-6;8 - Jesus identified Himself as Alpha and Omega - Rev 1:8; 21:6; 22:13 - Jesus’ followers identified Him as GOD - John 1; 20:28; Titus 2:13; 1 John 5:20; 2 Peter 1:1; Jude 1:5 - Jesus was worshiped and did not deny or rebuke those that did it. - Mat 2:11; 14:33; 28:9; 17; Luk 24:52; John 9:38; Rev 5:14. - Jesus is identified as Creator and Builder of all things - Isa 44:24; Heb 3:3-4; Col 1:16; Rev 3:14 These are just a few scriptures to support the deity of Jesus Christ. However the most important thing to know is *the ETERNAL sin debt humanity owes, no created being, i.e. mere man, could pay to an ETERNAL GOD. Only an ETERNAL Being could pay the ETERNAL penalty for sin.* If Jesus were a mere man, He would have been a created being; born into sin like the rest of humanity. Thereby His sacrifice on the cross would have been deemed insufficient and we would be without any hope; still dead in our sins. Therefore Jesus Christ must be GOD because the Bible clearly states His sacrifice was sufficient. - 1 John 2:2. This was GOD ultimate plan for salvation for the world. I hope that the Holy Spirit will soften your heart that you may be receptive to the truth. It’s a matter of life and death.

[@Leon-jp7ch]

@@mrsmorgann0000 Did Jesus forgives sins?

[@Natsar-Torah]

So is it possible to say then that being there are NO Jewish genealogy post 70ad, yet we have record of Yahshua's, that he is the only true bloodline Jew that we can be sure is a Jew then ? and then only those who are IN the Messiah (spiritually one with him) are also the only ones with a true connection down to Abraham .. that everyone outside of Messiah would be a crap shoot or guess being they have no genealogy anyhow ??

[@kylontobias]

Praise God!!

[@sonofzeruiahjacob6442]

Tovia said he whose mother is not a Jew is not a Jew. This makes David not a Jew. Because David's grandmother is not Jewish. Jesus Christ, his mother is Jewish, and his father is God. . As for David, his grandmother is not Jewish and his father is Jewish. Is David not a Jew because David's grandmother is Ruth the Moabitess..if you do not accept Jesus Christ because his father is God and his mother is a Jew. You must also reject David because his mother is not Jewish. And his father is Jewish.....Jesus Christ is son of God.. the God is his father... He is the God in the flesh. He is according to the flesh from descendant of David from the tribe of Judah because he took his human flesh from Mary. And Mary is from the tribe of Judah, a descendant of David...

[@D18.21]

Except Ruth had converted to Judaism before she married Boaz, the father of Obed, the father of Jesse, the father of King David. You just throw slime at the wall and see how much actually sticks? Unscrupulous tactics, no? That may work with the ignorant, not those that are learned. Go play with your Jesus has two genealogies from Joseph game.

[@sonofzeruiahjacob6442]

@@D18.21 Ruth is a Jew from the tribe of Moab

[@D18.21]

@@sonofzeruiahjacob6442 Ruth is a convert to judaism!! Ruth’s persisted in staying with Naomi and her proclamation, "…Your people shall be my people, and your God my God. Where you die, I will die…” remain inspirational rallying cries for converts in every generation. She wholeheartedly accepted the tenets of Judaism and became the consummate faithful Jew, and the great-grandmother of King David - the heir to the Messiah. Judaism is governed by the mother, thus, Ruth and her offspring were Jews, likewise, as was King David.

[@thatethiopiandude5077]

@@D18.21 luke's genealogy is mary's

[@D18.21]

@@thatethiopiandude5077 Prove it!

[@InTheLightwithLuanneHunt]

Biblical lineage comes from the father, not the mother, according to Numbers 1:18: “And they assembled all the congregation on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees according to their families according to their fathers' houses; according to the number of names, a head count of every male from twenty years old and upward.” Beyond that, Jesus did not fulfill one messianic prophecy: Here they are: Will reestablish the Davidic dynasty through his own children. (Jesus had no children). Daniel 7:13-14 Will bring eternal peace to the nations, as well as throughout the earth. (Jesus did not do this). Isaiah 2:2-4; Micah 4:1-4 Will bring universal knowledge of the One, True God, who all will worship. (Jesus did not do this). Jeremiah 31:31-34; Isaiah 11:9 Will rebuild the Temple. (Temple was not rebuilt in Jesus’ day). Isaiah 2:2; Ezekiel 37:26-28 Will gather the twelve tribes back to Israel. (Jesus did not accomplish this). Ezekiel 47:13-23 When the true Messiah comes, the entire world will know the truth. “So said the Lord of Hosts: In those days, when ten men of all the languages of the nations shall take hold of the skirt of a Jewish man, saying, "Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you." Zechariah 8:23

[@chosenoneinakilt9495]

Sorry professor, but you are using nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Why do I say this? According to you (or Christians in general), Jesus is the “rock star” of the Bible- yet you need to play connect the dots to sell this message. According to Judaism- Moses is the “rock star” of the Tanakh and this is crystal clear. Too many inconsistencies with Christianity. I’m sorry.

[@mrsmorgann0000]

@Chosen One in a Kilt - There is such flippancy in your comment, coupled with ignorance as it is evident in your comment you have no idea what is truly Christianity. The Apostle Peter preached the following: *And now, brethren, I know that you acted in ignorance, just as your rulers did also. But the things which God announced beforehand by the mouth of all the prophets, that His Messiah would suffer, He has thus fulfilled. Therefore repent and return, so that your sins may be wiped away, in order that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord; and that He may send Jesus, the Messiah appointed for you, whom heaven must receive until the period of restoration of all things about which God spoke by the mouth of His holy prophets from ancient time. Moses said, ‘THE LORD GOD WILL RAISE UP FOR YOU A PROPHET LIKE ME FROM YOUR BRETHREN; TO HIM YOU SHALL GIVE HEED to everything He says to you [Deut **18:15**]. And it will be that every soul that does not heed that Prophet shall be utterly destroyed from among the people. And likewise, all the prophets who have spoken, from Samuel and his successors onward, also announced these days. It is you who are the sons of the prophets and of the covenant which God made with your fathers, saying to Abraham, ‘AND IN YOUR SEED ALL THE FAMILIES OF THE EARTH SHALL BE BLESSED. [Gen **22:18**]’ For you first, God raised up His Servant [Jesus] and sent Him to bless you by turning every one of you from your wicked ways.” - Acts 3:15-22* It is Moses that pointed to the Messiah. It is the Prophets, e.g. Samuel, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, etc.. that have pointed to the Messiah. Abraham rejoiced in the day of Jesus’ incarnation [John 8:56]. *If you would only read the entirety of Scripture,* both the Old and New Covenants, you will see there are no contradictions, no inconsistencies; that the New confirms the Old; that what is crystal clear is the only “rock star” as you worded it, which I utterly despises btw because it demeans and disparages the Son of God, let alone Moses; is Yahweh, i.e. the LORD. Jesus said if you believed Moses, you would believe Him because Moses wrote about Him [John 5:46]. If you see inconsistencies, it’s only because you have not allowed the Spirit of GOD to reveal the truth to you. Christianity can be summed up in that followers of the Messiah believe that He died on the cross as payment for humanity’s sins and rose again in victory defeating sin and death. The eternal sin debt we owe is now paid in full and we can now have fellowship with Yahweh. This only applies to those that believe in the salvific work of Jesus Christ. Through what He did for us, we now have victory over our sin nature and can walk in fellowship and obedience with Yahweh.

[@chosenoneinakilt9495]

@@mrsmorgann0000 Moses pointed to the Messiah- but it ain’t Jesus. You never hear of a “son” in the Tanakh. If anything, it is made clear to be a single entity- Isaiah 43:11- Besides me there is no savior - Deuteronomy 6:4 - Here oh Israel, YHWH is our GD, YHWH is One. Christianity can only work with cherry-picking scripture

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thank you, my kilt-wearing friend. But Matthew 1:1 is the only dot we need to show that Jesus is the whole point of the Bible. Or John 1:14. Or Philippians 2:9-11. Or Hebrews 1:1-4. Pick your dot! Blessings, Rob

[@chosenoneinakilt9495]

@@TheBiblicalRoots All NT. Using the NT to prove the NT? Baruch HaShem. Or as you might say, Baruch Haba.

[@chosenoneinakilt9495]

@@TheBiblicalRoots Just a sidenote, if I was trying to prove Jesus I would probably point to Jacob’s wrestling partner.

[@Leon-jp7ch]

Matthew is not the first book of the new testament even it appears so. This is like saying Leviticus Exodus Genesis Numbers Deuteronomy Of course there are contradiction in the genealogy of Jesus mentioned in Matthew and luke.

[@gfalexan]

Good video! Thanks..

[@johanneangers2]

Pt#1 What if Christians are wrong with stating that Luke's genealogy is from Mary? and that its Actually from only Joseph! Questions of Part#1: Why does the genealogy in Matthew contradict the genealogy in Luke? In the book of Matthew chapter 1 it gives a genealogy from Abraham all the way down to Yehoshua (Jesus) in Luke chapter 3 it gives a genealogy from Yehoshua all the way up to Adam. In Matthew chapter 1 it says that Jacob begot Joseph the husband of Mary of whom was born Yehoshua who is called Messiah it says here that Jacob had begot Joseph which would mean that Jacob is the father of Joseph however in Luke chapter 3 says that Joseph was the son of Heli, which would mean that Heli is the father of Joseph, so in Matthew chapter 1 it says that Jacob is the father of Joseph but in Luke chapter 3 it says that heli is the father of Joseph, so one book says that Jacobs the father, the other book says the Heli the father so the question is who's the father? Is Jacob the father or is Heli the father? Or are Jacob and Heli the same person well they can't be the same person because Jacobs father is Matthan and Heli father is Matthat, they have different fathers, they have different grandfathers, they have different great-grandfather's, they have different great-great grandfather's, they have different genealogies so how could Joseph have two different fathers with two different genealogies?

[@johanneangers2]

Pt#2 Not commonly known in Modern Christianity, Well there's a fourth century historian by the name of Eusebius who explains this suppose a discrepancy in the genealogy of Messiah and you see this is Ecclesiastical history in book 1 chapter 7 page 21 second paragraph second sentence he says Heli and Jacob were brothers, by the same mother. Heli dying childless Jacob raised up seed in having Joseph according to nature belong to himself but by law to Heli thus Joseph was the son of both according to Eusebius. Jacob and Heli were brothers! In Deuteronomy 25:5 it says if brothers dwell together and one of them dies and has no son the widow of the dead man shall not be married to a stranger outside the family her husband's brother shall go into her take her as his wife and perform the duty of a husband's brother to her and it shall be that the firstborn son which she bears will succeed to the name of his dead brother that his name may not be blotted out of Israel. Basically what the scripture verse is saying is it when a man and a woman get married without having any children and something happens and the man dies childless his widow must not marry outside the family but rather her husband's brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill the duty of a brother-in-law to her and the first son that she gives birth to shall carry on the name of the dead brother even though the living brother is the one who begot the child, the child still must be recognized by law as the son of the dead brother so that his name is not blotted out from Israel, In the book of Matthew it says that Jacob begot and Joseph, however in the book of Luke it says that Joseph was the son of Heli. Eusebius points out here the Luke entirely omits the expression he begot because it's not possible for two different men to have begot the same child however it is possible for one man to have begotten the child while the child is recognized by a law as the son of another man according to the law of Deuteronomy 25:5 and according to the history handed down by Eusebius this is exactly what happened Jacob was the living brother and he lie was the dead brother Eli and Jacob were brothers by the same mother he lied dying childless Jacob raised up seed to him having Joseph according to nature belonged to himself but by law to Heli thus Joseph was the son of both!

[@johanneangers2]

Questions of Part#2: the question is though, how could Jacob and Heli be brothers? When Jacob's father is Matthan and Heli’s father is Matthat that they have different fathers? They have different genealogies! So how could Jacob and Heli possibly be brothers???? Pt#3 Well Eusebius (Ecclesiastical History, p. 21) explains that Matthan whose descent is traced to Solomon, begot Jacob, Matthan dying, Matthat, whose lineage is traced from Nathan, by marrying the widow of the former, had Heli. Hence Heli and Jacob were brothers by the same mother. Pt#4 According to Eusebius, Matthan whose lineage is traced to Solomon, married a woman by the name of Estha. They together had a son named Jacob, then something happened to where Matthan died, however since Matthan had a son to carry on his name his widow is free to marry outside the family and that's exactly what she did. She married a man by the name of Matthat from a different family with a different genealogy, whose lineage is traced in Nathan the son of David then they together had a son named Heli thus Jacob and Heli are brothers by the same mother though they had different fathers with different genealogies then when Jacob and Heli grew up, Heli married a woman but before they could have any children Heli died childless so his widow was required by law not to marry outside the family, so Jacob took her as his wife, fulfilled the duty of a brother in law to her, raising up seed to him, having Joseph who by nature belonged to himself, but by law belonged to Heli, so on the book of Matthew says that Jacob begot Joseph that's true but when the book of Luke it says that Joseph was the son of Heli that's also true neither of the gospels have made a false statement both accounts are true all this information can be found in Eusebius, his ecclesiastical history in book 1 chapter 7 pages 19 through 21.

[@johanneangers2]

Pt# 5 Now there's some people who give a much different explanation of the genealogies, and they say things like this! The church historian; Eusebius, writing in the early 4th century. Records that separate genealogies appear for the following reason! Jesus had both a biological mother, Mary and a legal but not biological father Joseph. Matthew records Jesus genealogy by the law, through his adopted father: Joseph, and Luke reports the genealogy of nature: through his biological mother Mary! According to Eusebius’ Ecclesiastical History: Julius Africanus, a third century church father, Explained this alleged contradiction in his letter to Aristides. According to this guy (Julius Africanus) the genealogy in Matthew is that of Joseph! And the one in Luke is of Mary! Which would mean that when the Book of Luke 3:23 says that: “Joseph, was the son of Heli,” what it means is that: “Joseph, is the son-in-law of Heli,” which would mean that Heli is the father of Mary and Joseph married his daughter. In order to back up his (Julius Africanus) claim he references Eusebius’ Ecclesiastical History book 1 chapter 7, well I own Eusebius’ Ecclesiastical History and I looked up book 1 chapter 7 and according to Eusebius’, Heli died childless! Eusebius says Heli dying childless, Jacob raised up seed to him! So how could Mary be the daughter of Heli, when Heli died childless? According to Eusebius, Joseph is not the son-in-law of Heli, he's the son of Heli according to the law not according to the law of marriage but according to the law of Deuteronomy 25:5 the law of a brother-in-law when a man raises up seed to his dead brother. So I don't know where this guy (Julius Africanus) got his information but he definitely did not get it from Eusebius like he claims according to Eusebius both genealogies are of Joseph neither or of Mary

[@johanneangers2]

Pt#6 So now with the evidences provided the genealogy of Yehoshua (Jesus) is not cursed because he is the Son of Heli under the Torah Rules of Deut 25:5-6. Where as he was Begotten by Jacob for his brother Heli. Case closed and not cursed! Pt#7 Also The Curse of Jeconiah, did you know that there is two different Jeconiahs? One of which is the son of Josiah and the other is the son of Jehoiakim the grandson of Josiah (this is the Jeconiah who's lineage is cursed). Jesus genealogy is traced through the son of Josiah and not Jehoiakim (which is not cursed)

[@lior38]

Can you make a video about why Luke's genealogy is of Mary and not Joseph? That's a difficult issue

[@craiglittle7367]

Mary’s line shows Jesus has the natural right to the Davidic throne, the Joseph’s line shows Jesus had the legal right through his adopted father.

[@lior38]

@@craiglittle7367 But it looks that Luke is portraying the genealogy of Joseph, not Mary.

[@craiglittle7367]

@@lior38 Yes. Adopted sons in ancient Israel had full legal rights of hereditary. Just as a natural son does. Joseph’s line shows Jesus had legal rights of Davidic throne through Joseph. Mary’s line shows Jesus was a natural or blood descendant of King David. One line shows Jesus had legal right to throne, the other he was a natural descendant of David.

[@lior38]

@@craiglittle7367 Can you give me an example from the old testament of one adopted king? Adopted priest? Something that will show that adoption really pass all the privileges ?

[@craiglittle7367]

@@lior38 Offhand, no. There is a lot of information on the internet about ancient Jewish hereditary laws. However, Jesus was a natural blood heir of King David through Mary. Luke’s line proved Jesus had legal rights through hereditary laws. What does the prophecy at Gen 3:15 say? Whose seed?

[@budhuedbuedbed]

Cook

[@sauloftarsus3351]

It's time for Israel to recognize their king, is a temple needed for Israel to have a king?

[@samanthacanales9102]

Thank you Dr. Solberg, you are a light in a sea of gloomy ignorance.

[@ivanhuertas5307]

כל הכבוד my brother in Christ

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

!תודה חבר RLS

[@orangemanbad]

So no messiah could come today as there’d be no true way to trace back to David.

[@berglen100]

Paul after waking from Saul called OT Allegory not history like man still only awake as flesh and blood called dust body followed history, Paul had to use milk to deal with blind spirit that keeps looking and waiting for whats in them, meat told man to know Christ in you not coming back nor a person seen by first born, David suffered the same the story of Jesus was about his Father in man that came down from Spirit that wake in man called rebirth by Firth born of flesh, Mary was Allegory not physical female seen by first born of physical female, the Spiritual wake in male and female isn't seen by man it thinks you well see with your eyes of first born, the Allegory of John Baptist called Greatest born of woman seen was called least compared to least at least look inside themself for Christ like David story was not seen when in Spirit called Father, Lord, Brother, God. In one man we all are.

[@marcinpaz4579]

Adoption is not righteous lineage. Judea is not Rome. Jesus will be Son of David. When he will be shown by his FATHER to the nations.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

The "works of the law" =Mans Law, Traditions of the Elders, Tradition of the Fathers, Rabbinical law (Talmud) Pharisees added traditions...... Romans 9:31-32 but Israel, pursuing the law of righteousness, has not attained to the law of righteousness. Why? Because they did not seek it by ((faith)), But by the ("works of the law")

[@sonofzeruiahjacob6442]

Jesus Christ is son of God.. the God is his father... He is the God in the flesh. He is according to the flesh from descendant of David from the tribe of Judah because he took his human flesh from Mary. And Mary is from the tribe of Judah, a descendant of David...

[@jamescummings6703]

Zurrubebell was never the King. He was a Governer. So the curse was still in effect. The geneology that goes through Mary also disqualifies him. He descended from Nathan, but the bible say's that the throne will pass through Solomon. I don't think people not knowing their tribe is important. God knows who is from the line of David and when its time for the Messiah to come then the world will know.

[@springtown24]

If the curse of Jeconiah invalidates Jesus line, then how will there ever be a Messiah through Davids line, as according to you the lineage stops at Jeconiah and cannot proceed?

[@jamescummings6703]

@@springtown24 Jeconiah wasn't the only descendant of King David. You do know Jeconiah had a brother named Zedekiah? The bible says the kingship will pass in the line of David through Solomon, any descendant minus those through Jeconiah can be him.

[@springtown24]

@@jamescummings6703 Jer 52:10 And the king of Babylon slew the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes: he slew also all the princes of Judah in Riblah. Problem is, that all his sons were killed and also all the princes of Judah were also killed. And this is what we read in Leviticus Rabbah, XIX:6 (5th-6th c. AD): …Shabbethai said: He [Jeconiah] did not move thence before the Holy One, blessed be He, pardoned him all his sins. Referring to this occasion Scripture has said: Thou art all fair, my love, and there is noblemish in thee (S.S. IV, 7). A Heavenly Voice went forth and said to them:‘Return, ye backsliding children, I will heal your backslidings’ (Jer. III, 22). (Soncino Midrash Rabbah, Volume 4, p. 249) Even the renowned medieval Jewish rabbi and scholar Rashi held this view: a signet: Engraved and sealed in the flesh of My arm. I will remove you: Cf. (supra 12:3) “Draw them out (התִקֵם) like sheep to the slaughter” (Jos. 8:6) “Until we have drawn (התִקֵינוּ) them.” And the ‘nun’ is superfluous. And, according to the Midrash Aggadah (Pesikta d’Rav Kahana, p. 163a): In the place to which he was removed (נִתַּק), there HE WAS RECTIFIED (נִתְקַן) , for he repented in Babylon, and the Holy One, blessed be He, APPLIED FOR ABSOLUTION OF THE OATH HE HAD SWORN, “Inscribe this man childless.” And Zerubbabel was born to him in Babylon, and it was said to him through the prophet (Haggai 2:23), “On that day… I will take you, Zerubbabel, and I will make you as a signet,” directed toward what He said to his father, “Though… be a signet on My right arm,… I will remove him (sic).” The Complete Jewish Bible with Rashi Commentary

[@springtown24]

​@@jamescummings6703 Problem is Zedekiah's sons were all slain. Jer 52:10 And the king of Babylon slew the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes: he slew also all the princes of Judah in Riblah. The Sanhedrin has something to add to this topic. Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 37b Rab Judah said: Exile makes remission for three things, for it is written, Thus saith the Lord etc. He that abideth in this city shall die by the sword and by the famine and by the pestilence; but he that goeth out and falleth away to the Chaldeans who beseige you he shall live and his life shall be unto him for a prey.31 R. Johanan said: Exile atones for everything, for it is written, Thus saith the Lord, write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days, for no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah.32 Whereas after he [the king] was exiled, it is written, And the sons of Jechoniah, - the same is Assir - Shealtiel his son etc.33 [He was called] Assir,34 because his mother conceived him in prison. Shealtiel,35 because God did not plant him36 in the way that others are planted. We know by tradition that a woman cannot conceive in a standing position Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 38a yet she1 did conceive standing.2 Another interpretation: Shealtiel, because God obtained3 [of the Heavenly court] absolution from His oath.4 Zerubbabel [was so called] because he was sown in Babylon.5 But [his real name was] Nehemiah the son of Hachaliah. And this is what we read in Leviticus Rabbah, XIX:6 (5th-6th c. AD): …Shabbethai said: He [Jeconiah] did not move thence before the Holy One, blessed be He, pardoned him all his sins. Referring to this occasion Scripture has said: Thou art all fair, my love, and there is noblemish in thee (S.S. IV, 7). A Heavenly Voice went forth and said to them:‘Return, ye backsliding children, I will heal your backslidings’ (Jer. III, 22). (Soncino Midrash Rabbah, Volume 4, p. 249) Even the renowned medieval Jewish rabbi and scholar Rashi held this view: a signet: Engraved and sealed in the flesh of My arm. I will remove you: Cf. (supra 12:3) “Draw them out (התִקֵם) like sheep to the slaughter” (Jos. 8:6) “Until we have drawn (התִקֵינוּ) them.” And the ‘nun’ is superfluous. And, according to the Midrash Aggadah (Pesikta d’Rav Kahana, p. 163a): In the place to which he was removed (נִתַּק), there HE WAS RECTIFIED (נִתְקַן) , for he repented in Babylon, and the Holy One, blessed be He, APPLIED FOR ABSOLUTION OF THE OATH HE HAD SWORN, “Inscribe this man childless.” and Zerubbabel was born to him in Babylon, and it was said to him through the prophet (Haggai 2:23), “On that day… I will take you, Zerubbabel, and I will make you as a signet,” directed toward what He said to his father, “Though… be a signet on My right arm,… I will remove him (sic).” (The Complete Jewish Bible with Rashi Commentary From whom will the Messiah descend? From Zerubbabel. Why was he called Zerubbabel? Because he was born in Babel (Babylonia). From whom did Zerubbabel descend? From David, as it is said: And Solomon’s son was Rehoboam; Abijah his son.. and Delaiah, and Anani, seven (1 Chron. 3:10-24). To whom does Anani refer? To the Messiah, as is said: For who hath despised the day of small things? Even they shall see with joy the plummet in the hand of Zerubbabel, even these seven (Zech. 4:10). And it is written elsewhere: I saw in the night visions, and, behold, there came with the clouds (ananei) of heaven, one like unto a son of man (Dan. 7:13). (Midrash Tanhuma-Yelammedenu, translated by Samuel A. Berman

[@springtown24]

@@jamescummings6703 Problem is Zedekiah's sons were all slain. Jer 52:10 And the king of Babylon slew the sons of Zedekiah before his eyes: he slew also all the princes of Judah in Riblah. The Sanhedrin has something to add to this topic. Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 37b Rab Judah said: Exile makes remission for three things, for it is written, Thus saith the Lord etc. He that abideth in this city shall die by the sword and by the famine and by the pestilence; but he that goeth out and falleth away to the Chaldeans who beseige you he shall live and his life shall be unto him for a prey.31 R. Johanan said: Exile atones for everything, for it is written, Thus saith the Lord, write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days, for no man of his seed shall prosper sitting upon the throne of David and ruling any more in Judah.32 Whereas after he [the king] was exiled, it is written, And the sons of Jechoniah, - the same is Assir - Shealtiel his son etc.33 [He was called] Assir,34 because his mother conceived him in prison. Shealtiel,35 because God did not plant him36 in the way that others are planted. We know by tradition that a woman cannot conceive in a standing position Talmud - Mas. Sanhedrin 38a yet she1 did conceive standing.2 Another interpretation: Shealtiel, because God obtained3 [of the Heavenly court] absolution from His oath.4 Zerubbabel [was so called] because he was sown in Babylon.5 But [his real name was] Nehemiah the son of Hachaliah. And this is what we read in Leviticus Rabbah, XIX:6 (5th-6th c. AD): …Shabbethai said: He [Jeconiah] did not move thence before the Holy One, blessed be He, pardoned him all his sins. Referring to this occasion Scripture has said: Thou art all fair, my love, and there is noblemish in thee (S.S. IV, 7). A Heavenly Voice went forth and said to them:‘Return, ye backsliding children, I will heal your backslidings’ (Jer. III, 22). (Soncino Midrash Rabbah, Volume 4, p. 249) Even the renowned medieval Jewish rabbi and scholar Rashi held this view: a signet: Engraved and sealed in the flesh of My arm. I will remove you: Cf. (supra 12:3) “Draw them out (התִקֵם) like sheep to the slaughter” (Jos. 8:6) “Until we have drawn (התִקֵינוּ) them.” And the ‘nun’ is superfluous. And, according to the Midrash Aggadah (Pesikta d’Rav Kahana, p. 163a): In the place to which he was removed (נִתַּק), there HE WAS RECTIFIED (נִתְקַן) , for he repented in Babylon, and the Holy One, blessed be He, APPLIED FOR ABSOLUTION OF THE OATH HE HAD SWORN, “Inscribe this man childless.” and Zerubbabel was born to him in Babylon, and it was said to him through the prophet (Haggai 2:23), “On that day… I will take you, Zerubbabel, and I will make you as a signet,” directed toward what He said to his father, “Though… be a signet on My right arm,… I will remove him (sic).” (The Complete Jewish Bible with Rashi Commentary

[@brianpope5596]

So the Jews agree that there was not an earthly father . Therefore proving Jesus was from GOD

[@tbishop4961]

I'm pretty convinced jesus was the messiah, but this was not convincing at all I'd be more convinced if I saw the people who claim to follow him doing the father's work

[@BiblicalApologetics]

Then you will be pleased to know I cover this info on my channel in many videos.

[@tbishop4961]

@@BiblicalApologetics rob if we're going to run a successful rock band together, you're going to have to stop taking my criticism the wrong way✌️

[@christ.8547]

"no".

[@Pasture_Prime]

Rob 1 Family is unbroken cause it is his brother its the same family 2 Caleb Numbers 13-14 he was of the tribe of Judah from the start. 1 Chronicles 2 judges 1:13 Calebs mother remarried he had a stepbrother Othniel 3 Numbers 27:4-8 as states inheritance property nothing about tribal affiliation. 4 Jarha was a convert, and his male descendant would have no tribal affiliation. Jarha's Daughters who married men of other tribe's children would become the tribe of his son in laws Jarha's sons would remain Ben Avraham a high honor but no tribal affiliation. 5 jesus mom would be Jewish does not make him from Judah or the house of David no matter how you attempt to elucidate it. 6 To say the record were lost and there is no way to validate it is a fallacy. As Tanakh states the whole world will know when Messiah arrives. Rome captured the line of David and let them go. We know who they are and where they are. as for jesus lineage According to the early church fathers his brother James States Jesus was not born of a virgin. or a blood sacrifice. and did not fulfill the law as they practiced it till 400 CE and then Died out just as gamaliel said. and you know what they said about paul. Have a blessed day

[@D18.21]

Excellent points, and there are more. So much of the content in this video conflate genealogy with inheritance, and excludes passages that thoroughly undermine the arguments brought forth. This video doesn't serve its viewers well, as there is much more evidence to the contrary of these claims that will be used as a cudgel against these preposterous claims. Guess he never read Malachi 3:3. 3And he shall sit refining and purifying silver, and he shall purify the children of Levi. And he shall purge them as gold and as silver, and they shall be offering up an offering to the Lord with righteousness. Now who does that speak of? The Messiah, and he knows who the levites are. Additionally there are meticulous records kept by Kohanim for over 150 generation. I've personally seen the levitical genealogical records kept at homes of friends. Big mistake making this video. Very academic. Thinly veiled as substantive to an audience that knows no better.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Excellent rebuttal, Ahavah. I have a question, if you don't mind. How was Caleb affiliated with the tribe of Judah, if his father was a Kenizzite? Kenaz descended from Esau, rather than Jacob, so I'm curious how that works. Thanks, Rob

[@tbishop4961]

I need to hear this reply on Caleb too😳

[@josephdeisrael]

@Ahavah Ach what is your source for the brother of Jesus's statements?

[@AviWeisz]

@@TheBiblicalRoots True there was a man named "Kenaz" grandson of Esau (Genesis 36:10-11) but "Kenaz" the Edomite cannot possibly be the father or forefather of Caleb. That’s why: "Of the tribe of Judah, Caleb the son of Jephunneh" (Numbers 14:6) So Caleb's father clearly was "Jepunneh" from the tribe of Judah. Not "Kenaz" the Edomite. "And the sons of Kenaz: Othniel, and Seraiah; and the sons of Othniel: Hathath." (1 Chor. 4:13) Here we see that only Othniel and Seraiah were the sons of Kenaz not Caleb that is not mentioned. "Othniel, the son of Kenaz, Caleb's younger brother, took it; and he gave him Achsah his daughter as wife." (Judges 1:13) Here we see that Caleb and Othniel were brothers -but not from the same father but from the same mother. Caleb was Othniel half-brother. "Kenaz" the father of Othniel cannot possibly be Kenaz the grandson of Esau because the huge gap of years between them) . Because Caleb was raised together with his younger half-brother by Kenaz , therefore he is called the "Kenizzite" as we see "Caleb the son of Jephunneh the Kenizzite" (Numbers 32:12)

[@Krisnelson1969]

Jesus Davidson would be his name.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

LOL!

[@kurthill7030]

What the problem is God clearly says son of man if God was going to send his heavenly son why didn't he just say that clearly in the scriptures he says nothing about this has to be the son of a man so who was Jesus's earthly farther 👍

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi, Kurt! The phrase "Son of Man" comes from Daniel 7, when we see "one like a human" coming with the clouds of heaven. He is presented to God on His throne and God gives him "dominion and glory and a kingdom, that all peoples, nations, and languages should serve him; his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom one that shall not be destroyed" (Dan 7:14). Shalom, Rob

[@llaka79]

Christianity can never overcome the fact that Jesus is not the seed of David. The exceptions you bring up don’t apply here at all. Mary had a husband Joseph so why would tribal affiliation pass thru her. The messiah has to be the seed of King David that means he can’t be adopted. So if someone is adopted that means automatically that person don’t qualify coz he’s not of the seed of David. it’s a very simple concept. Christianity should actually end immediately on that fact alone . There’s no place in Tanach that says he can be adopted. It’s very clear that you figured the way to confuse people is to say you have an answer for every question and contradiction. What you need to go back and look at is where in the bible it says the requirements for messiah had been waived .

[@thatethiopiandude5077]

Jesus is the seed of David through his mother's bloodline

[@cherebyahwatson5727]

Shalom ! you don't need to go into levirate marriage or whatever to prove Yeshua was son of Abraham and David... As Yeshua as all the kings established in Israël is from a man and woman ! So Yeshua was the son of Yoseph and the son of Maryam actually !!! and I have the proves from prephecies in OT and in the NT... Matthew's is from blood, and Luke is from legal lineage (Heli)... I will bring all to you by facebook ! PS : look at the only 5 women listed in the Matthew's account... their common points to be quoted in there, you'll maybe find the reason, The 5th, Maryam finished this list ! All Glory To The Most High and to His Minister Yeshua ! Yoachanan 20: 16-18 : "Yeshua saith unto her, "Maryam". She turned herself, and saith unto him, "Rabbouni"; which is to say, "Master". Yeshua saith unto her, "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended "to My Father" : but go "to My Brethren", and say unto them, I ascend "unto My Father", and "Your Father"; and "to My Elohiym", and "Your Elohiym"." Mary Magdalene came and told "The Disciples" that she had seen "The Lord" (Mashiah), and that he had spoken These Things unto her." My Father, My Father, Your Elohiym, My Elohiym !!! Yeshua was strict Monotheist as his Fathers Abraham and David ! Amyn ! Cherebyah

[@theartzscientist8012]

God is NOT “messiah” nor is God “anointed”. Jesus IS NOT GOD!

[@canttouchthis6439]

Jesus was son of man{through the lineage of King David born through Mary} also son of God because he came directly from God through holy spirit. Son of God {spiritual} son of man{ flesh}

[@sonofzeruiahjacob6442]

Jesus is( like )son of man. Read Daniel 7... like son of man because he is God in the flesh. Not son of man. Not son of Adam. But like son of man

[@canttouchthis6439]

@@sonofzeruiahjacob6442 Jesus was refereed to as son on man many times in bible and son of God. Mentioned 88 times as son of man in new testament. Showing him as human in the flesh. God isn't flesh God is spirit. Look at John 12:34> The people answered him, We have heard out of the law that Christ abideth for ever: and how sayest thou, The Son of man must be lifted up? who is this Son of man? John 12:34 KJV

[@theartzscientist8012]

Messiah isn’t God.

[@Jeffmacaroni1542]

I bet you believe in the human invented, You will burn in hell for all eternity and Satan is the ruler of hell and his demons and fallen angels will party like rappers for all eternity while torturing humans. Jesus debunks this wicked heresy..... Matthew 10:28 “ And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both ((soul)) and ((body)) in hell. Lake of fire.

[@richardbluett958]

Jesus could not be the descendant of King David, because as the new testament says he is the son of God, you can't have it both ways, So who is his father.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Hi Richard. Why can’t both be true? I don’t see the conflict. -Rob

[@wolfie5]

Why do people believe any of this nonsense?

[@cmk1964]

The gospels were written decades after Jesus was crucified and they did not circulate among the Jews but rather were directed to the gentiles. So it’s fallacious to say that the Jews would have raised questions about Jesus’s genealogy if it were not true.

[@TheBiblicalRoots]

Thanks, Christopher. But actually, according to the book of Acts, the gospel was spread throughout the Jewish communities very early on. The apostle Paul specifically stopped in the synagogues in every city he visited. And there were tens of thousands of Jewish believers in Jesus according to the NT. In fact, all of Jesus' earliest followers were Jewish. Which is why in Acts 10-11, they were so surprised that the Gentile Cornelius (and his family) received the Holy Spirit. Up until then, Christianity (which they called "the Way") was thought to be an entirely Jewish movement. Blessings, Rob

[@truthwatch2858]

Amen