The Great Khans: A Full History

[@vulkanofnocturne]

The Great Khanate of Wyoming is canon and no one can tell me otherwise, not even Bethesda.

[@Dorkeydaze]

Them biker shorts have me like 😩

[@dantewilliams2757]

Best primarch and absolute facts in the same comment yes

[@AdaraHepburn938]

I mean, it's the most possible eding to be canonized by Bethesda if they ever revisit the west coast

[@jerichar7078]

Even if they get crushed, isn't part of their endings "their remnants migrated to Wyoming to rebuild"? I absolutely think, even if it's just Jerry the punk starting a new gang in Wyoming, the Khans survival will always be firm canon

[@protocetus499]

​@@AdaraHepburn938 well well the show happened 😂

[@_Ferin]

In all honesty, any Fallout lore video that you voiceover is a video that I will always watch as it always have that flare like how is Ron Pearlman the Narrator of the series

[@yaboiii6562]

Wow, thank you. That is honestly high praise!

[@JRYYD]

@@yaboiii6562 I have a suggestion for a future video: Similar to your Far Harbour video where you discuses the best ending, would you consider doing a best ending & faction video for the base game of Fallout 4

[@lostbutfreesoul]

In the beginning I thought nothing of them, didn't even really notice one group of raiders over another. By the end of New Vegas I was rooting for them to survive, to become a reoccurring narrative.

[@keithstone8693]

I hope they get wiped again lol them filthy animals deserve it

[@TKsh1]

Gotta respect the Khans, they almost end up being wiped twice by two protagonists and try to straight up a third time. Too bad it's in a blind way of selling (and using their own) drugs and living past glories.

[@keithstone8693]

Mmm yes, nothing quite so glorious as raiding caravans and attacking unarmed civilians. What an amazing and prosperous tribe, please sign my baby papa khan . The khans are neutered raiders, now turned drug lords and professional victims after repeatedly getting the shit kicked out of them.

[@korsak7213]

Nice Bea pfp

[@WereWolfBubbles]

I really enjoy the Khans and this is a great history of them! I will say that one of the interesting things to me about the Great Khans is how their second in command and potential leader is their Chief Law Enforcer, which is a pretty far cry from a group previously known as "lawless" and a nice lead into what you suggested about their Wyoming empire being based in economics and trade!

[@issuespunkrock]

What a wonderful start to my Saturday!

[@danielmartires5121]

We need more raider lore

[@JRYYD]

East or west cost raider lore?

[@Nomed38]

Up next is The Billboard Raiders.

[@touchme6466]

​@@JRYYDwest coast. East coast in fallout are stupid

[@fulgrimthephoenician5187]

What's funny is the faction with the most Mongolian influence is more stable than the Legion which in many ways mirrors the Mongol Empire. Not sure if that was intentional or not but it's funny either way.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

Actually-... You're right.

[@deanrazor9023]

YES the legion isnt really even a Rome, its much more comparable to the Mongols, im sure others have mentioned this but you're the first i've seen. As far as i know the only things the legion shares with early Rome is the new guys in front and more senior guys in back thing, the absorbing people into their nation and some latin here and there, and the slavery...And it works great for a post apoc faction! lol

[@weplo1597]

Great Khans could also be inspired from Turks tribes as well too

[@wazson3178]

@@weplo1597 Mongolians are a Turkic tribe, so they are inspired from Turk tribes.

[@concept5631]

The Legion is more similar to Alexander's Empire, in that it'll crumble after Caesar dies.

[@ilocosmetro]

Just the thing to start the day

[@Zimzilla99]

Yeah the Khans kind of got everything that came to them. They swore revenge after they lost to the NCR when they kidnapped Tandy Hunted and terrorized NCR none combatants resulting in bitter springs

[@ArcticTemper]

Yeah but who kicked them out of Vault 15 to begin with? Both sides are as bad as each other, the point is to show how VaulTec and the USA's abuse and experiments on their citizens lead to long, long consequences.

[@JRYYD]

If a northwest empire of the great kharns was created what actions do you think the other west based factions would do 30 years after FNV with Mr House wining the events of FNV?

[@vulkanofnocturne]

NCR and Legion would both be at odds with them. There would be a new 'calculous of power' between the three factions I think.

[@jacobkeller7172]

@@vulkanofnocturne nah they would keep being a petty raider gang. They never change.

[@JRYYD]

@@vulkanofnocturne What would the new "calculous of power" look like in your idea? In my idea both the NCR & legion would when the great kharns are at the peak of there power would create a new treaty with them the NCR offering aid & the legion "finding" the traitor who tried to destroy the kharns while both trying to undermine the faction with indirect means due to there power also Mr House knowing the history he has with them would make a contract with them via the Kings/

[@JRYYD]

@@jacobkeller7172 Why is that?

[@TKsh1]

NCR would probably stay the same or suffer in a way under their own expansionism, and Legion would fall one way or another due to Caesar's reliance on his cult of image.

[@keremayhan3687]

Was having a shit day until I heard ur voice thanks man

[@yaboiii6562]

Hope it continues to improve mate!

[@SuperMeethead]

I wonder if in the good ending for the Khans where they go north. If they'd manage to actually rebuild and create something close to a functional society, or of it'd just be a short lived thing reminiscent of thwir namesake

[@graysonfrost6774]

It says "carved a mighty empire" so I always assumed they created a functional society

[@christianweibrecht6555]

​@graysonfrost6774 Would be cool if in Wyoming they discover then tame horses

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Or motorcycles...​@@christianweibrecht6555

[@mfspectacular]

I like the think the courier is another vault dweller descendant (some lonesome road lines actually elude to this) & chooses to "give the khans a break." As in give a change of pace from what's basically become a running gag of his lineage annihilating the khans. Oh & if obsidian ever got another crack at the wheel, i'd bet on the setting being the northwest- the wyoming area that the khans migrate to. Theyre basically a staple of the west coast games afterall

[@konglight4070]

Why do you care about lineages? Why would you let dead people slave over you? They are dinosaurs, all of them, what is older than 50 might as well be considered ancient. You cannot condone such collectivist concept called "lineage" and call yourself an anarchist.

[@modelnanpresident]

Well done man. These videos are great.

[@LotsOfThoughts]

This is excellent, thanks!

[@duckmysick5082]

This game is so great it honestly amazes me how the majority of the community dont know about the other independent ending for the khans and the games been out for so long

[@TheVenomation]

I thought the internet had exhausted all the entertaining new vegas content but youre somehow making quality videos still, Love it. 10/10 for narrating

[@dagothur2666]

I would love to see a Fallout game set in Wyoming in the New Khanate of Wyoming it could include Caesar's Legion, 80's Tribe, and maybe NCR if they wanted to. I just can see such a great potential game.

[@just_addd_water_to_your_ramen]

Have you watched fudgemuppet's Fallout Empire video? I want something o8ke that

[@harun5108]

killing the khans was tradition for me in fallout 1 and 2, but somehow i feel some sympathy to the khans in fallout new vegas, especially on how the ncr genocided them at bitter springs. i simply cannot bring myself to exterminate them, in most of my playthroughs i usually let them get integrated into the legion or just tell them to leave red rock canyon.

[@pender7]

They did kill NCR caravans and kill many NCR citizens. Bitter Springs Massacre was well deserved.

[@pender7]

They did kill NCR caravans and kill many NCR citizens. Bitter Springs Massacre was well deserved.

[@pender7]

They did kill NCR caravans and kill many NCR citizens. Bitter Springs Massacre was well deserved.

[@pender7]

They did kill NCR caravans and kill many NCR citizens. Bitter Springs Massacre was well deserved.

[@pender7]

They did kill NCR caravans and kill many NCR citizens. Bitter Springs Massacre was well deserved.

[@theillegalseagull6838]

That was a good video, thanks for doing the great khans

[@yaboiii6562]

You're welcome Mr. Seagull!

[@midorithefestivegardevoir6727]

It does seem like The Great Khans are little more than mere chem-pushing raiders, but I'd argue there is more to it than just that.

[@flowersdely]

I already know all this obv but I deff needed a lore video after the new FO tv show trailer leaked. Perfect for my night time stoner sesh!

[@CRUELLANDER]

Honestly that's where the next fallout should have really. Because we haven't seen them alot like Fallout 3, Fallout 4, and Fallout 76 so yeah I would love to see the Khans again and even the Mojave or even California aswell

[@drlukas4242]

The faction is about to be wiped out for the billionth time.

[@crazysapling2933]

I never dully wiped out the khans in fallout 1, one of them ended up walking past the edge of the map where I couldn't reach them which I remember being very frustrating at the time

[@sh4d0w2013]

Kinda weird that apparently the Khan ideology or something similar didn't take in the East.

[@akramgimmini8165]

Imagine if they got Big Giddyup Buttercups to ride on

[@he77hawk.71]

Eager for you next video I like you channel I’m happy I found it any ideas for your next video

[@christianweibrecht6555]

Would be awesome if fallout 5 took place in the north west The Khans being an a major faction & teaching you how to ride a horse

[@map9992]

The next fallout game should be in the northwest (from washington to wyoming). We have tribes and a unique natural environment just like the mojave. There's just so much potential for lore and exploration.

[@Kolossus_]

Maaaaan if only more vehicles were operational without the fallout franchise besides a few aircraft. I'd pay to see a fleet of Great Khans rip it across the wasteland on some choopers, mad max style. They would instantly become my favorite faction.

[@Hy3jii]

Some players are sympathetic to their plight only because of our history with them. We have seen them at the height of their power and in New Vegas we see them at their absolute lowest. But they're just raiders. They're murderers and chem pushers. The best ending for the Mojave and the Wasteland as a whole is one where they're wiped out.

[@GDKF0238]

The Legion is full of rapists and butchers. I’ll take the one off murderers and chem crackers in that case lol

[@tapgames3465]

Great Khanate Empire of Wyoming is the better ending because they end up making a society with the followers of the apocalypse (If the khans are still the same as before then the followers wont join them) stopping their old raider type tribe

[@desupocalypse]

The great Wyoming empire ending with help of the Followers seems way too optimistic for the Khans.

[@yaboiii6562]

True! Which is also why its so interesting.

[@sauronmordor7494]

yes

[@jordanford9320]

You can also wipe out the officers of forlorn hope, gain papa Khans respect, become second in command, then kill him. You control the Khans and they have a better ending

[@drlukas4242]

The ending doesn't change. If you become the leader you get the same options as before: Break off the alliance with Caesar and help the NCR, Stay with Caesar, Make Regis the new leader and tell him to leave the Mojave. Well maybe you could do head canon where in the independent ending after they fight on the NCR's side the remnants of the Khans join the New Vegas state as a military force alongside with the Kings and securitrons.

[@Hyperion-5744]

Next the tribes of zion valley.

[@sabokiTV]

Hi, how is your day Mr. Fallout Lore Man?

[@yaboiii6562]

Great thank you, how is yours?

[@AltbinariesPPK]

The Khans deserved bitter springs and that's a fact

[@BloodWolfFire]

They better bring the khans back in the future

[@hyperbolicechochamber]

I've always thought it was odd and kind of random to have a tribe inspired by the mongols while mentions of native american tribes' cultures are all but absent in fallout. The Biker gang influence on vault dwellers does help me understand how they came about though.

[@kookbrah640]

The great khans never reached the east coast as far as we know but I think that was a typo

[@johnnthefalloutroleplaying8738]

There’s two good endings regarding the Khans in my opinion, with one of which being bad for the Khans, and good for the restoration of civilization. The Great Khans are nothing more than chem-addicted raiders, so they don’t exactly deserve to create a Northwestern empire. Additionally, the whole empire idea implies a future conflict with whatever comes of the NCR should the NCR win Hoover Dam. The best ending for the Khans is having the NCR move them far north of NCR trade routes, so that NCR’s operations in the Southwest could expand and prosper without having the Khans be further involved through their raids. The second best ending, if NCR wins Hoover Dam and regains its strength, would likely be the Northwestern empire, but it’s not necessarily that good of an idea when you consider that the Khans could build a nation and use it to get revenge on the NCR in a future title.

[@brotherhoodofsteel4751]

I know the KZbin channel fudge Muppet that their own video on how they would make a Fallout game based off of the idea of a great cons empire have you checked it out?

[@joeywaters5559]

The Great Khans provide an interesting dilemma that is shared by one of the most unlikely of groups - the Institute. The dilemma being: should a faction's current generation be punished for the crimes of its predecessor's? The Khans and Institute are both guilty of terrible things, but they both pale in comparison to the sins of their forebears. Both groups have a chance to greatly improve the wasteland with the help of another group (the Followers and Minutemen, respectively) if led down the straight and narrow path. Personally, I cannot stand the Great Khan's hypocrisy and victim complex, and I tend not to seek their golden ending. And yet, I like giving the Institute a second chance to actually benefit the Commonwealth. The way I see it, the Khans throughout the decades have shown very little noble aspirations when compared to the Institute's ideals. Thanks for your many brilliant and wonderful videos.

[@georgemurdock7670]

So the history of the great khans summarized is: "Khans harm people, people genocide the khans so they cant harm them no more, khans run away, start harming people elsewhere" And that three times in a row. Hopefully they learn and become smarter in wyoming, but i doubt it, the legion is the only long term solution to such tribes and the ncr did nothing wrong in bitter springs besides leaving survivers and apologizing afterwards.

[@rootin222]

The current great khans. aren’t pillaging anyone simply taking part of a market that both the NCR and Caesars legion dream would not exist ironically a legion Stan is trying to browbeat the Khans for being raiders

[@georgemurdock7670]

@@rootin222 they dont pillage anyone anymore, but they wouldn’t be as docile as we see them in new vegas if it where not for the genocide on them. And legion and raiders are nothing alike, they do the same things sometimes, but for vastly different reasons, and thats what counts. All actions of the legion are honorable and for something greater while raiders are scum and only out for themselves.

[@joeywaters5559]

@@rootin222 They aren't pillaging because the wars started by their previous pillaging have left them strapped for manpower.

[@M50A1]

The amount of edge in that last sentence is insane. Holy shit go outside

[@midorithefestivegardevoir6727]

Khans (by proxy, other tribes) raiding settlements, caravans, and everything else in between: bad NCR slaughtering civilians and wounded warriors due to a communication error and lack of intel: completely justified Mate, what?

[@ayzekpie9432]

I like to think that after leaving for the north, the Khans can become an ally of an independent Vegas and together with the Courier will be the bearers of the law for the former lands of the Legion.

[@robkemp598]

Can't really be sympathetic personally, they're just a glorified raider gang at the end of the day

[@adamhenrywalker]

Enslaved by the Legion

[@skhighglitch4217]

3:18, you meant West, right?

[@deplatformedcrowprinceluna6339]

My Fallout New Vegas Character when he thinks of The Great Khans: “Time for them to pay the price.” **grabs his gear to eliminate the Great Khans.**

[@steverambo9770]

The Kahn's deserved everything the got coming to them. Although I hate NCR I support what they did in bitter Springs.

[@cj_wit_the_lunch_tray3231]

Travis lonely miles of KZbin, (the cool personality)

[@chadlegionary3748]

Ave, true to Caeser

[@MrMathsimon]

Ah the chem sellers of New Vegas

[@someguy8511]

7:07 almost definitely how face masks work

[@maxrander0101]

the story of this faction is why in all my playthroughs of vegas and fallout 4 is why i always make my char the only power in the world and the one that is the true ruler of whichever area im in as if i could i would mod the faction into fallout 4 as a faction you can build up to take over

[@brando1919]

i never felt any sympathy for the khans in new vegas. they deserved bitter springs, they had been committing the exact same atrocities that the ncr committed that day. they were just made they finally tasted their own medicine.

[@ZanderMedia54]

you sound like modest pelican

[@mrlollipop638]

Is there evidence in the games of the Great Khans engaging in slave trading independently (as in, not under the purview of their alliance with the Legion)? I've been playing the HOI4 OWB mod with a friend lately and was playing a game as the Great Khans. After I did the national focus to conquer the territory of a nearby tribe, I had a couple more national focuses to do that involved enslaving about 1 in 3 of the civilians in the newly-conquered territory, and then training the people to adopt Khan ways. It felt similar to a kind of assimilation the Legion would conduct, and it made me wonder if it was something the mod creators added in based on established lore or not (specifically the Great Khans independently engaging in slavery/assimilation in that manner).

[@tikalthewhimsicott2736]

I think only the Khans under Garl Death Hand's rein enslaved people. I don't know if Darion's New Khans ever did anything like that. The Great Khans for sure never enslaved people as far as I can tell in the game.

[@Flamme-Sanabi]

Tbh, the New Vegas Khans don't seem like slave traders, I mean, you don't see any slaves in their base and their members are just free to leave the tribe.

[@M50A1]

That mod is entirely uncanon

[@thegreatpoop1150]

Bruh the legion are like the khans but better

[@M50A1]

@JRD they dress and act like they are.

[@aquapb893]

If anyone wants to check out what the Great Kahns empire would have been like Fudgemuppet made a video on what a Fallout game centered around the empire would be like, it’s about 1 1/2 hrs long kzbin.info/www/bejne/eWWkaGZ3d7yXp80 EDIT: The video does have time stamps so you can skip to the parts that interest you

[@Crazy-pl1lo]

Finally some lore videos that aren't made for neck beards! :D

[@weplo1597]

Great Khans are hugely inspired from Turks/Mongols lmao

[@joshuamadjoker4399]

Litt✌️

[@kadhimahmedkadhim763]

من انتم ؟

[@fnansjy456]

حخش عسمس نسمشم مششك امبارح رين تشش يش

[@fnansjy456]

وشنو الله وبركاته كيف حالك وكيف الاهل كلهم أن

[@longjohnson]

you should consider using some mods to improve graphics, the base game is painful to look at

[@originallyham]

no

[@longjohnson]

@@originallyham yes

[@Vickysqueeze]

No it looks fabulous

[@Pyromancer_]

Vanilla aesthetic enjoyer Vs Modded png pasteed rocks fan