The Highs and Lows of Crisis on Infinite Earths Part II

[@KingOfMadCows]

The Tomorrowverse started with a lot of promise but they rushed it. There was never enough time to build the world and develop the stories. And doing Crisis on Infinite Earths so soon just seems like the writers wanting to wrap things up and give some kind of conclusion because they know the studio isn't going to support them for much longer. And considering how more than half of WB's animation department has been cut, we might be close to the end of these types of projects.

[@Thaltas]

Think this also happened because of James Gunn's plan of most animated movies being part of his new universe, forcing the Tomorrowverse to wrap things up..

[@doritohair0759]

@@Thaltasnot necessarily, James Gunn has a lot of power in DC, but the Studio is still the ones who make the cuts. Animated movies are expensive, so cutting out animation that isn’t needed for their “DC Universe” would save them a lot of money. I just wouldn’t blame James Gunn for this just because he’s “head of DC studios”

[@extremetoast5723]

@@Thaltas yeah this just isn't true, the creators of the COIE films revealed in an interview lately that the plan for the tomorrowverse was always to make a complete universe in 10 films, and that's when they decided to use the last three for COIE.

[@kermitgotthesickkicks4265]

​@@ThaltasPretty much

[@Thaltas]

@@doritohair0759 wasn't necessarily blaming him, just that I think they'll keep stuff more simple to follow between the new DCU format Gunn planned and "elseworld" animated movies just like Live Action ones. I felt things could get rushed since Apokolips War that ended the last universe :(

[@HBstudios2005]

Seeing how Robin and alt Batmans daughter get beaten by the Joker made me facepalm and think "You 2 had one job"🤦‍♂️

[@chillatrix]

@@NHTube1wrong place to have that talk my guy

[@chillatrix]

@@NHTube1 you've said that on multiple comments, I'm saying move along cuz this isn't the place for it 💀

[@BlackSpectre1]

​@@NHTube1nah dc writers js terrible

[@ianslee4765]

@@NHTube1 look man. imma just be honest. marvel characters, mostly, are actually the ones based on tropes, myths, and other things. This inherently makes them not as original, thus, overall worse because you cant really compare the actual characters of media that change writers so often. sure this is bait. but stfu

[@oshwaflz]

and now im not gunna watch it. Im so sick of them making dick pathetic for no reason

[@masterdef2209]

They did my boy Terry dirty 😭. I was really hoping he was going to have more lines and do more, but in the end all he did was just stand there.

[@josef.ramoss.8457]

Like Spectacular on Across the Spiderverse

[@primal1233]

Justice League Crisis on Infinite Earth's part 2 could have been a lot better

[@tedxteddy]

True but at least we got it.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@tedxteddy we should want better though. Feels like the animation department has gone down in quality a lot.

[@tedxteddy]

budget is what wb dont give them@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp

[@rush5235]

I'm not a fan of storytelling where they consistently bounce between past and present events. I get what they were going for, but after the disjointed first movie's story (Which made sense since it was from Flash's POV) a straight forward story is a what I feel we needed in the second movie

[@jordanloux3883]

"Four or five moments. That's all it takes. To be a hero." - Piotr Rasputin

[@strikermodel]

Psycho pirate has always been an interesting case in the crisis stories. He's a nobody villain who was chosen to be the one who can remember things across reboots. Why psycho pirate?

[@Mwezi828]

You’re not alone bro, this was made for me too! Loved how the time trip filled in the gaps in part one, and how this one answered questions I assumed would remain unanswered.

[@delanomcgee2923]

This is an extraordinary film. Too good for little minded people. Hurts to see the mobs literally hate the very essence of the moral of The D.C. Universe rather than any singular character.

[@Jay-gq1mo]

What frustrates me the most is people who complain about Batman(Terry) having three lines but fail to realize that this is not a Batman movie. I really enjoyed this movie

[@whateverwhatever4476]

@@delanomcgee2923ppl can enjoy shitty movies. It happens

[@atarhejude136]

Exactly my bros 😊

[@Tr3_4lk]

Me myself I have enjoyed the continuity and piecing the puzzle together

[@KrazyKobold]

This breakdown really makes me want to get your take on X-Men '97

[@kite1704]

NEVER BEEN THIS EARLY TO AN IMPLICITLY PRETENTIOUS VID!!! LETS GOOO. I AM

[@Andrew-Bastin]

It’s strange that the Tomorrowverse movies seem to have the opposite trajectory as the New 52 movies, New 52 stated pretty ruff but as they went on the quality improved while the Tomorrowverse start strong but quickly went downhill.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I disagree about the quality improving for the New 52 movies. It had some good ones, but a lot of lazy writing. Got even lazier and edgier by the last film.

[@Achieme]

I feel theDCAMU started off good but mid they realize they didnt have enough time and rushed it out. The tomorrowverse was similar except it was just quick

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

The tomorrow verse was always like this, a bland mess full of lazy writing.

[@josef.ramoss.8457]

the worst movies of the news52 (WWBL & Hush) were literally almost in the end. Tomorrowverse start strong, but recover on crisis 1 (haven't watched 3 yet)

[@Andrew-Bastin]

I meant in general. Sure the last three movies of the New 52 were pretty bad but the writers had already given up on that universe by then and were already preparing for the reboot, before that they were releasing some pretty solid movies. However the Tomorrowverse took a nosedive in quality after the fourth movie and never recovered.

[@amikkelll]

crisis on infinite burps

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I'd watch that

[@unsolved86]

I don’t know don’t ask me jeez

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

What?

[@joshuastoute7569]

​@@DavidMartinez-ce3lpdude stop asking him he said he doesn't know

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@@joshuastoute7569 oh

[@DanialTarki]

IKR

[@jesusr378]

YEAH STOP QUESTIONING HIM HIS ALREADY CONFUSED

[@novusparadium9430]

Moving away from justice league dooms animation style has killed the DCEU animated movies.

[@justo2640]

There’s been a ton of dull moments in the latter half of the tomorrowverse which is incredibly disappointing. Man, it’s rough being a DC fan 😒 im still trying to find ways to enjoy these movies tho but they could be a lot better

[@theduckscp]

I just was distracted and sad when the universe with giant dogs got deleted from existence.

[@notabear2614]

I think the film would have worked better if the super girl and psycho pirate backstory were implemented throughout the movie instead of the first 40 minutes. We get to see Supergirl's growing dissatisfaction as she is dealing with the crisis while also remembering all the shit the monitor has done. We see Psycho Pirate's backstory while also seeing him gaining more power. It also makes stuff like Kamandi's arc start much earlier instead of halfway through the movie. This makes the film less like the 2 disconnected plots made to happen one after the other and instead makes it so all of these elements build up to the climax of Psychopirate betrayal, and monitor death.

[@texasholdmeplease]

This movie is also for me if it makes you feel better. It makes me want to rewatch the entire Tomorrowverse but bring some people along the journey with me

[@kaybeeva]

I literally just finished watching this movie about 3 hours ago it's refreshing to see you covering it as well I'm have a feeling that you will differing opinion to the mixed-to-negative reaction as I have

[@spiko2723]

I love the Tomorrowverse. I think it’s honestly just a distraction until the next universe but the story telling is unique to me and I enjoy the designs Plus they put some real respect on flash

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I just think it's a bad adaptation of Crisis on Infinite Earth's

[@milkiassamuel780]

Honestly I actually really liked Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 2 and I actually didnt expect how much I had a good time with it. I personally enjoyed Kara and Monitors character arcs and how the two have an almost father and daughter relationship and actually made Monitor an interesting character, at least to me. I also kinda liked Pyscho Pirate and how much of a twisted person he is and how his actions tie into previous Tomorrow-Verse movies which I actually appreciated and makes the universe feel a bit more cohesive looking back on it, and I also like how his powers tie into Kara's feeling of distrust and grief. Granted yes this movie isn't perfect and you do make good points about these movies and their pacing and how certain subplots never interested me like Batman and his relationship with the interdimensional Batfamily, Wonder Woman trying to save her mother from another universe, the anti climactic way John Stewart sacrifices his ring and therefore his powers etc... Then again truth be told Im honestly interested to see how Part 3 ends

[@delanomcgee2923]

This and part one touched my heart.

[@Toanui1]

I'm glad to finally see someone else who actually liked this movie. Hell if I'm being honest I actually think I like these movies more than the original as it made Psycho Pirate's inclusion in the first part make more sense; seeing as he was immediately recruited by the Anti-Monitor in the original before he did anything for the good guys, and in this he actually played a part in helping before being tempted. And on that note I actually think he was serious about helping when he asked the Monitor for more power because he was very clear that he understood if all worlds died he'd be doomed as well, and only joined Anti-Monitor latter when an actual choice was given to him.

[@lightspaceman5064]

I followed this movie just fine and if you didn't you're a FAKE FAN! No, but It's got Kamandi, The Quetion, Psycho Pirate, Constantine's story from the last universe, and a Bat Family from multiple worlds with a deadbeat dad. It's fun. These movies should be allowed to be weirder. And I'm not a big fan of the idea that you need 10 years just to get to the weird stuff anymore.

[@theCantinafan]

So I followed tommarowverse, and I kinda liked this one. I mean, I liked the Bat family hashing things out, though I didn't understand why they were there. The wonder woman part was just stupid to me. I thought Green Lantern getting upset about being called Green Lantern was the dumbest contrived scenario ever just for Constantine to remember his name. However, I enjoyed Kara's moments, the Monitor, Pirate guy whose name I forget ah yes, Rainbow Raider. Yeah, the tommarowverse felt rushed imperfect, but it did feel like a superhero story non the less. I'll still watch it because while it's by no means perfect, it captures the feeling of a superhero movie.

[@maladacav8819]

lol this is why I love you and your videos “seems like this was made for no one IT WAS MADE FOR ME” 😂😂😂 - I felt the exact same way. And I’ve been following ALL of DC animation and I don’t know how others who follow all of these including the DC showcases in the end ALL make sense. Everyone like who the F is Kamadi? And I’m like no one watches the showcases 😭😭😭

[@Doctor_Glados]

I really dislike the tomorrowverse. Nothing happens in these movies. New 52 had its problems but the charactefs felt like people. I shed a tear when superman was stabbed by doomsday even though I knew exactly how he will come back. Here worlds being vaporized and I couldnt care less.

[@kwayneboy1524]

True but at least this felt like a bigger universe than just the old one

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

Uh, now you've done it, you have angered the 5 tomorrowverse fans left, they will leave a lukewarm defense mentioning only the first Superman movie and deflecting by repeating incessantly how the new 52 was "edgy" without mentioning any specifics or why that is inherently bad.

[@josef.ramoss.8457]

Superman wasn't a character until doS, the last universe wasn't great, it was improvised, for example Aquaman movie cliffhanger of Legion of doom with a resolution of a random battle on Jl vs TT, Apokolips Wars killing character like Batgirl which had two scenes on screen but batwoman or batwing which had actual development off screen, Aquaman having 0 relevance since his movie, even worse with shazam. Post credits went nowhere like WW bloodlines or TT Judas Contract introducing Donna Troy to forget her. Movies feeling the same like mcu but dark and edgy.

[@barq6994]

I liked the Tomorrowverse, mostly. I know the creators were told they only had 10 films, but yeah these Crisis films keep having to fill in missing plots that should have been their own films. The entire 10 films should have been structured differently to work better.

[@xilofone8166]

all valid points yes but it was still too corny i dont care about the ndless characters, i marvel in it but they LITERALLY forgot about the black batman i so-so like the action but they undoubtly were taking their time in some shots and scenes for no reason i love hard sci-fi shit but ending in darkness big monster?? ew monitor is great, yes but we still dont know exactly how hes interfering in the universe to make it go so bad, specially since there were more than him

[@AndersHass]

I presume you meant Batman Beyond has a 3 worded line, lol. Edit: Okay you show 2 more lines at 5:27 and 5:34

[@cis22]

The first time the Tomorrowverse felt jarring to me was in Green Lantern: Beware My Power. Skipping the formation of the Justice League was so strange to me, let alone foregoing Hal Jordan's story to skip ahead to a very loose adaptation of Emerald Twilight. Then, in the Legion of Superheroes movie, when it was revealed that Superman and Flash's seemingly inconsequential fight with Braniac is actually a pretty significant plot point to the overarching story of the Tomorrowverse, I started feeling like the writers actually are trying to do something and not just making weird decisions on the fly again and again. And then, I learned that the whole Tomorrowverse is actually built right from the beginning with the intention of culminating into an adaptation of Crisis of Infinite Earths. That means that every time they crafted the plots of each movie, they most probably also considered how certain plot points will fit into the story they want to tell in the COIE trilogy. While I understand the negative reception of the COIE movies so far, and I do agree with the complaints to some degree, I can't help but still appreciate COIE for what it is. At the end of the day, it might bore the audience with how contrived everything is. But it takes a lot of effort to actually craft a non-linear story this complicated.

[@josef.ramoss.8457]

Many superheroes fans got lost with series like Legion TV series first episode, so I expected them to be confused by crisis 1

[@valentecarrillo4259]

Some people will think that James Gunn is responsible for the tomorrow verse ending. But this franchise is a complete failure people were saying bad things about the movies. How it was written changing things from the comics and hating the animation. Given that they are already doing crisis storyline already before others dc characters gets their own movie like wonder woman and Aquaman. Means this franchise is a complete failure and they decided to end it with crisis. And no surprise the crisis movies are just as bad as the other tomorrow verse movies. Batman the long halloween movies was the only one that people liked.

[@mickyodell]

I like this movie but I am still of the opinion that it doesn’t fit the traditional role that the second film in a trilogy usually does. I think a lot of people expected that and that’s why they don’t like it. I’ve seen people call it the worst DC animated film and I think that is extremely exaggerated. I think it’s a good film.

[@sfkeepay]

I enjoyed it. I bought it. It’s a hell of a lot better than, say, that New 52 JL Atlantis movie.

[@hobbes6392]

Most people have never read Crisis and assume it’s like an action book when it is in fact barely a character piece and is just a mechanism to artificially clean up a time line. So if this movie made the smart choice to actually do character work exploring the themes of nihilism and empathy when facing overwhelming disaster by using continuity as a mechanic and is ultimately a clumsy story, then it is a perfect Crisis adaptation

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

I liked Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths more

[@vullord666]

I think the real problem here is that Crisis on Infinite Earth's really doesn't work outside comics in that particular moment in time. Any adaption is going to have to make major to come out with something general audiences (even just DC fans who don't read comics) can enjoy. It's already significantly worse solely by the fact it's not just well known IRL now but we have a crisis event so often these days. Heck, everything has been doing multiverse team IPs recently. The idea of all DC multiverses coming together lost a lot of appeal and shock value, and there's like none of the ground shaking consequences. Like how do you make people care that all multiverses got killed off? That Golden Age WW died and main universe Supergirl died? Crisis is more well known for what it did and what it meant at DC comics. How do you even adapt that properly?

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

@vullord666 I actually think they could've used the crisis to pay homage to their previous animated shows/movies. Bringing them together and letting them interact while trying to save the multiverse. Imagine Batman: Brave and the Bold intetacting with Batman from Btman TAS. Would've been fun and epic. Then ultimately leaving one universe standing, the DCU.

[@illseeyaonthedarksideofthemoon]

People who talk about things they know nothing about really are up their own asses...

[@karimdavis7065]

Ignore those MCU fanboys

[@delanomcgee2923]

Play genuinely think this movie is too high level of messages for the common audience the comic was high level on itself. Whenever the main characters are the monitor and flash and high-level beings outside of the multiverse do you really have to start thinking a little higher level

[@Minetic]

Is there any particular reason why they rushed this series? Started off well with the first few movies but when Green Lantern came out it was all down hill from there

[@Theycallmetomu]

I liked it. But I like talk-no-jutsu, and the film was like, 90% that.

[@benstone1O1]

I can't wait for part 3 cause we will be getting Razor and Aaya and I really really really hope we get a conclusion on Razor and Aaya's story even as a flashback

[@Soul-cry1]

The animation looks horrid, the more they switch to digital the worse it looks, so stiff and lifeless.

[@dynaguy3]

Contrary to popular belief, the Tomorrowverse was always planned to be this short. They knew Crisis would be the finale, which is why it ties into the previous movies so much. The DC showcase shorts that aired during the Tomorrowverse are also canon and tie into Crisis, like how Psycho Pirate was disguised in the Blue Beetle showcase. Gunn’s takeover of DC has nothing to do with the end of this universe because they’ve been working on these for years. Personally I think the tomorrowverse is better than the DCAMU.

[@Bat_fan-1]

Part 1 was my favourite so far becayse they introduced Helena Wayne Huntress from Earth-2 AKA why I'm watching this series and because she's my favoruite DC character next to Batman and Catwoman (her parents) Part 2 just felt rushed... too rushed... kinda wondered where it was going. Not to mention 2 origin stories overlapping one another. It's weird. What bothered me mowt is Wonder Woman being Earth-2 only and not every Earth. I do plan on reading the original COIE but yeah.

[@malcolmroache3854]

I like the Tomorrowverse but after the first JL movie its went downhill unfortunately. Animation when fighting isn't great and some of the characters' writing is uh questionable. Hopefully after this universe it will be done better. Overall its an ok adaptation.

[@dg4935]

Batman Beyond/Terry better have bigger role in part 3; seriously enough Damian Wayne garbage in DC projects

[@no.1spidey-fan182]

They're making a part 3...Jesus Christ🤦‍♂️

[@_BlockDeNotas]

I forgot this was already a thing, and when I saw this video notification I had to rush to watch it I liked it, yeah, it's not a fight driven story, but we have to acknowledge that not every superhero story needs to be about someone hitting someone else. This is, as you said, a connection, it's filling the holes and answering the questions you might have in part 3. But it's more than that, it has its values not just as a middle point, but as lenses into the minds of the characters, what made them happy or angry, fear, cheer. It's the story of the importance of emotion, and as emotion is the power of psycho pirate, he's got a pivotal role using and boosting those emotions while Kara taught Mar Novu to feel and care. We see that it's truly emotion and not logic that drives the amazon to not free the men to fight, even if it would tip the scales We see how Kamandi learns to trust someone who he would otherwise fear and hate, someone who, in the end, gave his life for him We see how Mar Novu regrets not caring before We see how the bat family yearns for a batman that does not recognize nor trust them

[@Briaaanz]

I think people are being too hard on it. I read the comics it was based on when they were originally released. In my preteen years, it got me into buying and reading comics, so i was big fan. That said, i think the movies did a far better job with the material. They did a day better job explaining and justifying the plot

[@kwayneboy1524]

I think what they did with Flash felt like a more fulfilling ending.

[@WillTheGreatest]

I care about the tomorrowverse too man. Glad I'm not alone but sad to hear what's become of it since I last watched the legion movie

[@MortSalazar]

Sigh, here goes another -verse on account of people not understanding or disliking the films for the silliest of reasons and thus the films not selling I wish we had something going on for longer, to latch onto, but you just can't please comic book fanatics who think they're the only ones who know the right way to represent their favorite character or a story or whatever I like those movies, and the animation is beautiful And hell i hope Jensen Ackles scores more Batman roles He could pull a live action one too i bet

[@josef.ramoss.8457]

at least this one is a complete saga intead of another cancelled franchise (dceu lol)

[@5lim.0]

Still pissed they didn't or couldn't include Static Shock

[@LyricalOutlaw]

You’re not the only one who cares 😭😞 we are the few

[@sanjidparvez]

1. Pysho Pirate deserved his own movie (featuring other DC Characters like Constantine, Riddler & Batman). 2. This whole Crisis on Infinite Earths should have been a TV Series other than 3 or 4 part movie. 3. Why only "What?" Why not "WTF" as the video title?

[@MaigenMaylight]

I really hope Crisis on Infinite Earths Part 3 is good, because that'll be Kevin Conroy's final performance as Batman :(

[@OWXMUSIC]

I just don’t like it

[@malclmhexed5978]

I honestly thoroughly enjoy part 1 & 2. I loved the subtle character writing, it was pretty engaging. I really hope part 3 sticks the landing 🤞

[@browhathow1397]

Honestly, the trilogy so far is for those who are invested in the tomorrowverse already, which is ok. I wonder what they’ll do next after the tomorrowverse ends, or if it’s just gonna have animated DCU content besides random elseworld stuff.

[@richardsphd]

My hot take for a while now has been that Crisis on Infinite Earths is, if not the worst DC crisis, then at the very least one of the bad ones. It's 12 issues of characters you barely know, since quite a lot of them have been left behind in the 40 years since (who the fuck is Dawnstar), fighting the Anti-Monitor. A bunch of people die pretty much purely for shock value, and then the whole Multiverse is killed off because DC bought some new toys. You compare that to the insanity that is Metal and Death Metal, or the fucking MASTERPIECE that Final Crisis is, and you might get why I'm disappointed every time the say "Hey guys, we're doing Crisis on Infinite Earths again, this time we'll do it right" And yes, I do think Zero Hour and Convergence are better, because Zero Hour has Parallax Hal Jordan and Convergence has Parallax Hal Jordan

[@petergohan]

I actually enjoyed that movie, can't wait for the next one.

[@MoonPhantom]

I was very dissapointed, I really liked part 1 of infinite earths, it really had a full and realized story with a story arch focused on Flash that was so much better than the Flash life action movie coming out at the same time. This second part was just so confusing... I had no idea what was ging on, it just felt like so many random plotlines randomly thrown together and none of them have time to breath or probably developed and I am just left scratching my head going. "What?"

[@Jack-sy8mr]

I just feel sad for the TomorrowVerse They’re trying, there’s so much they want to do, but they don’t have the runtime to develop these stories and characters, and practically no one know they exist

[@flexprime2010]

i enjoyed that movie too. I think we are at least 2 love that movie now.

[@bluemindstudios3256]

Not fan of the movie, but it makes me angry people complaining about the tone or pacing instead instead of the real problems (the filler plots)

[@jay15951]

I havnt even been followimg the tommaroverse and i liked it

[@ariannaarriaga7506]

I was really on the fence on watching this and I don't think I will, no offense 😅 (love your vids, tho 🥰) I barely survived War World and Part 1, no way can I take this AND a Part 3!!! 🤣 DCAU absolutely CRUSHED IT will their older stuff. I STILL watch Wonder Woman vs the Furies scene from Batman/Superman Apokolips and admire the choreography to this day!!! We're supposed to get better not worse!!!

[@jonathongibson7895]

Your telling me it’s convoluted and focus on too many characters that only most people with a real love for this universe and it’s history will like it… sounds like the book like I don’t know anyone who liked the book other then people who are really in to DC as a whole (like me) I have seen both parts and enjoyed them for what they are

[@k1ngatlas474]

This universe is ass

[@chazbriggs]

I watched one and two back to back the other day . I throughly enjoyed both I thought maybe it was because I knew more about the character involved.

[@andreworders7305]

Some trailers I saw makes it looks like it has nothing to do with CoIE whatsoever. I don’t remember Crisis having shadow monsters.

[@dionysisnance4204]

I wish batman beyond got more scene time

[@yarc9]

I think gonna get more screen time in part three

[@yourin8er]

Is there a part 1 to this video. Video titles are pretty confusing. Don’t change that. It got my sub.

[@oliwardcomics]

I just finished part 1 and came here looking for answers, assuming I must have missunderstood something. it felt like it was written by AI. it was paint by numbers, but still managed to have essential story beats missing. just confusing, boring, and empty. I... I think its over, DC bros

[@channel-zf6sx]

Not the best one, but I can see the drop of gold in this movie. John ,fucking, Constantine. That couple minutes that he’s in is amazing, fabulous gorgeous remind me of the DCEU

[@diegodadog14]

Batman not in his prime fighting 2v1 vs a Prime Robin and Beyond Batman (Gonna guess since his design seems to be way more mature, kinda like in the last episode of JLU)and fighting on par and at moments even winning is a goated Batman moment imo, If I have to give a score to the full movie it would be 6.5 nothing really crazy and its clearly preparation for the 3rd one, it hurts coming from what I think is at worst an 8.5 movie (open ending+ bad animation) so I can understand people disliking it

[@InvinciDon]

I think Part 2 sucks because it just doesn’t feel like a movie, it feels like a puzzle being put together, and it’s a confusing mess for fans who’ve only ever watched the TMV movies.

[@jsc315]

That's why it's part 2 of 3. It's not finished.

[@joshuastoute7569]

"Part 2 sucks cause it feels like a part 2" is what you're saying

[@What-ish]

​@joshuastoute7569 If a Part 2 cannot stand on its own as a good movie, then that is a valid problem. Literally, there are so many examples of Part 2 of 3 movies that succeed in this, and you're gonna pretend this is just how they are?

[@giovannimartin3239]

@@What-ishpeople really think stories are just random events and don’t adhere to form. It’s crazy. They will personally enjoy something for whatever reason and then you point out that perhaps it’s middling reviews have to do with it not adhering to engaging narrative models and they act like you’re crazy.

[@elocfreidon]

There was A LOT in this movie of character using words they didn't know the meaning of and people thinking irrationally. Psycho Pirate is the perfect excuse for poor writing and making characters make bad decisions.

[@joshuaburnett552]

I didn't despose the movie. I found the story alright. I didn't mind the Batfamily's lack of lines and relation to the plot. The animation bugged the shit out of me, though. It was jerky, and some of these people looked good animated, and some of them looked like they were ripped from Archer. I'd like to get more from the Batfamily next time. I liked psycho pirate's story, though.

[@zachryder3150]

Supergirl being shocked that her heat vision indeed did heat up what was in her vision was a funny note to end the film on.

[@byronbarrientos8471]

i think she was more shocked that she hurt him... one cause she was obviously under psycho pirates buffed influence, and two it went thru monitors impenetrable shield..

[@iwantmygarlicbread]

The monitor is extraordinarily power. She didn’t think she would hurt him with one blast.

[@ChrisAnd]

Crisis part 1 impressed me with how good it was I expected to not like it after warworld. This move was the opposite I was so impressed by how much I didn't like it. Psycho pirate was the only interesting character, being shown the monitor used to not care dosnt do much when we already saw he does, and batman took up so much time going back and forth with the bat family never really changing his perspective on them so what was the point? Wonder woman mentions equality but they all get erased without a real conversation. Kamandi is traumatized but learned to trust and care for solovar off screen making the whole thing less impactful. The art style makes it so hard to know which characters are from which universe and they just keep saying random earths like I understand who they're talking about. God I hated this movie. A starwars style opening crawl at the start of part 3 would have been better than sitting through this movie.

[@summerstarr3446]

*whispers* I think you misspelled "PSYCHO Pirate" for the marker in the timeline. V^_^;

[@LibraryLateFees]

I also really liked the vibes of this movie. I am very emotionally invested in this universe, and it still tells good stories in it. Messy? Perhaps. But I enjoy them.

[@hobobeard]

You didn't care to link the previous video? No? Good thing your videos are clearly labelled after the specific topic they cover. Oh wait...

[@belgianheskey]

It just so bland and the show has no focus, the villain is also boring. Constantine would have been a good character to focus on. The next crisis needs a superboy prime as a villain and green lanterns. Batman is not a cosmic character, why do we have to have shit revolve around this guy in every fckin movie, I'm fckim bored of it

[@Rockmanbalboa]

The problem with the movies in this universe is that it doesn't feel truly genuine, and these crisis one lacks character exploration, I feel the death DC showcase, used better this exploration of philosophical notions in less time and character exploration, but also the movie has a lot of characters but their reactions are either generic or not at all. To The point I feel that the tomorrow verse don't even has much of a mark, most people don't even know there's these animated movies(few people even talk good or bad). I don't think is justification to say the movie is for some people only and so it seems boring, when DC did better ones that while slow paced engaged you in the concepts and thoughts explored. It feels too mashed together without thought just to end this universe and begin a new, but how do we mask it? throw in some philosophical concepts and the work is done.

[@isaiahjolin7178]

Hello Implicitly pretentious. My name is Isaiah and I have something important to say to you. God loves you and like any father he wants to help you and keep you safe especially from the devil. But I am not just speaking to you about this I am also talking to your fans about this. God loves you all and especially in the times we our living in we are in need of him more than ever. But the choice is ultimately yours have a nice day Shalom Shalom.

[@GeekMasterGames]

Good lord, the animation style looks boring as heck. They didn't flex AT ALL on the variety.

[@jamesdietz29]

I don't hate it, but it is kinda confusing. It jumps all over the place before you can get a handle on whats going on. You have to watch it multiple times in order to get a grasp of what's going on. Watching it multiple times isn't necessarily a bad thing but I wish I were doing so because it's an awesome movie not because I'm trying to figure it out.

[@mikerotch8375]

The entire Joker sequence felt so....odd. Everyone stands like a cardboard cutouts with no emotion, they jturn their backs to joker and just wait for him to do something. And something about the design just seems too angualr for the scene for some reason.

[@Morlock19]

i think this movie would have been better if it were tighter. less long pauses, not as many knowing looks, and less extraneous fights. i agree that the story was well made, and i don't need a ton of action, but the movie was too slow, too plodding. i actually fell asleep watching it... and thats been the tomorrowverse's problem in general. its in need of a very good editor imo. good stories, bad production i guess.

[@darkelmo2023]

I havent seen the second crisis yet, i was waiting to see it on Max at no extra cost. I was really surprised to hear such a negative reaction to this movie, but I want to go in with an open mind. Especially because I actually really enjoyed the first crisis movie and I feel like most people didn't, so maybe ill like this one.

[@davidkeller5832]

I enjoyed the subtle storytelling of these films. Its not half fisted... lets you think about what's being presented and make your own decisions

[@turnleft8645]

too be fair, rather this than a pointless action money grab which doesn't make any sense, I mean just look at how Marvel has turned out. At least this could be used as a stepping stone to write better future meaningful movies

[@theorbitalone7283]

I liked the art style of the tomorrowverse, but man it all feels so rushed, i dont care at all about any of these versions of the characters. Imo it just feels like they wanted to pump out a few movies to get to COIE asap.

[@fluffyjr.3085]

Doesnt superboy prime show up in the original crisis on infinite earths comic? If he does, will he show up in part 3?

[@xdiamonddogx]

Yeah nah, these movies did suck, we expect way more than this boring garbage.

[@nathanobregon210]

I actually really Enjoyed? It. It was boring, but I was entertained

[@shadow19121]

I enjoyed the first film. This one was a lot harder to get through. I’m hoping they wrap this up neatly though.

[@dampesthydra7422]

You might be the only person who cares about the Tomorrowverse but I, among many others, care about your reviews of it

[@xelaander8429]

My take is that while the source material is great, these tomorrowverse films - I mean the crisis series - have no gravitas. They rush through stuff that i can't care about the characters or their motivations and as such the prospect do not seem to have the levity they want it to, so it just feels bleh

[@manyppI2]

I'm very used to these more transitionary experiences, and it's always tough grippign people through your mid story climax set up, and I had a good time watching part 2, you could tell they were digging a lot deeper to tell a more subtle and gripping story, and I think it succeeded, if maybe paced a bit quickly

[@ThePandaSupreme]

Rip tomorrowverse no one will miss you

[@kwayneboy1524]

Except this guy

[@bluemindstudios3256]

I will

[@redscar1973]

DC used to have the best animated movies. They've really fallen off.

[@drlizzardo4373]

After hearing that the guy responsible for the terrible Marvel animated movies was now in charge of the the DC Tomorrowverse movies the lack in quality is understandable.

[@DavidMartinez-ce3lp]

Wait, what era of Marvel animation? I actually thought the early 2000s animated movies was pretty enjoyable, and the shows were up until Avengers: Earth's mightiest heroes. That was the last good one.

[@What-ish]

Because naturally, movies are only actually made by one person.

[@moveon1830]

They tried to bring the mystery to another level. Y'all need to chill DC