The history and DANGERS of seed oils

[@bethanylee4284]

More people need to talk about this issue. One of the main reasons I absolutely hate going to restaurants nowadays is because seed oils, canola oil aka "vegetable oil" is in literally everything. It's impossible to get away from unless of course you just make all your food at home.

[@Fernando-jy6gq]

Perfect solution.

[@hotwater8473]

I only will go out for sushi.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Just that its absolute nonsense, there is no science backing this. Actually, its the opposite. Its simply a scapegoat people came up for cholesterol. There was just a good video posted about seed oils, titled: "Are Seed Oils Inflammatory?! (The *Evidence* No One Shows)"

[@Fernando-jy6gq]

@@Nobody-Nowhere a lot of studies and science is paid off and can't be trusted. Seed oils have been around longer than you probably and the people in power who put em there aren't done yet.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Oh, forgot that all of these carnivore channels delete every post that goes against the nonsense they post.. that's the way to be credible, just delete every disagreeing voice. But this is not about science isint, its about money for you.

[@monicavandeventer5429]

My husband just bought some butter that contains canola oil, and some mayonnaise that contains soybean oil. He’s at work right now so I took the opportunity to throw them out. I let him know, and I’m educating him on seed oils and he was totally fine with it.

[@christophdollis1955]

Wonderful of you, and also that you did so respectfully, telling him what and why you did, and that he took it so positively. I predict success in improving and maintaining your healths!

[@pondeify]

He’s lucky to have you.

[@michael7324]

Good step in getting healthy. These seed oils are in everything. We really need to look at ingredients in the labels.

[@voodoochile6796]

Even though what you did was a good thing for health, I would be pissed if my significant other would start throwing away things I've bought without me knowing. I would never do that. I would wait until the person got home, talked to her/him and then threw it. What if he threw out something you bought all of a sudden? Having said that, I do get your point and I hate seed oils.

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

You could make him real healthy mayonaise. he would be happy

[@NVR-fold]

I stopped seed oils for a couple of months. Once, I went back, I instantly had digestive issues, skin itching, and even, feeling nausea.

[@144k_Kingdom_Living]

Same here. Seed oils give me very low stomach acid and my food does not digest along with severe chronic inflammation. For me it takes 2-3 weeks without seed oils for me to start feeling better.

[@blueguy2128]

Me too. I haven't had any nasty turd puddles for months until I unknowingly ate bread and some other things that were full of oils

[@stevebuss69]

It was Eisenhower who had the heart attack .. he was a heavy cigarette smoker .. but they blamed meat/cholesterol 🙀

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

I will faster believe it was military complex poisoning him than cigarettes hahaha he was also very hot blooded man his heart could not keep up with his heroic mentality hahaha

[@SG-ji5ij]

Interesting fact about Lyndon Johnson's heart attack..."Johnson was a 60 cigarette per day smoker up until his near fatal heart attack on July 2nd, 1955." The tabacco companies were heavily lobbied with the government at the time so you know they had to coverup the real cause of his heart attack.

[@frankping2147]

Eisenhower*

[@szymonbaranowski8184]

Except this didnt cause his heart attack, if he didnt have a tumor on heart LOL

[@E-BikingAdventures]

Tobbacco was in use long before seed oils. It doesn't correlate to the increase of heart attacks.

[@johns8620]

​@@frankping2147Thank you! I kept thinking Johnson was president in the 60s!

[@stepheninczech]

I cut out seed oil and my horrendous ankle eczema has been getting much better after decades of being a crusty bloody mess. It's been 2 weeks. Hoping it heals completely in a few more weeks.

[@__Square]

it's been a month since your comment how is it going so far?

[@stepheninczech]

@@__Square My eczema healed up almost completely. It's amazing. However, I tried adding back in seed oils last week and have been eating them every day to see if the eczema comes back, but oddly I haven't gotten a reaction yet. Perhaps it was something else I cut out inadvertantly (msg, preservatives, etc.) or maybe it takes time for the eczema to flare up. Thanks for asking.

[@gooseactionsports1289]

@@stepheninczech it’s been another month. How are we doing and feeling?

[@stepheninczech]

@@gooseactionsports1289 After breaking the diet and eczema fully returning, i tried again with just cutting out processed foods in general but continuing to cook with processed vegetable oil. After 2 weeks there has been no improvement in my condition. I'm just going to go completely back to the original diet of no possibly processed oils again. I assume that if i stick with it, in 2-3 weeks i'll see improvement again.

[@franklin5785]

@@stepheninczech Wow that's fucking amazing update?

[@dannyj7618]

We also had massive explossion of high fructoss corn syrup in everything around 50s and 60s.

[@powdapuff75]

I am actually starting carnivore to help with back inflammation and arthritis. I am very excited about it. Have been doing keto for over 6 months now, and feel it's time to step it up. Optimal cellular health is my goal - everything else will follow.

[@LuisC7]

Best wishes

[@zilaz]

LOL

[@cedricmayfield7058]

How it’s going for you ?

[@powdapuff75]

@@cedricmayfield7058 Really well. If I eat the correct amount of fat with my meal, I am satiated and don't suffer from cravings anymore. I feel great. Good constant energy levels, no brain fog, and find it easy to get out of bed in the morning.

[@lucastfitness7299]

@@powdapuff75 how is your digestion? I’ve found with high meat and low fiber I can’t go to the bathroom lol

[@miltonbates6425]

Grassfed beef tallow and butter should be the only cooking oils in your kitchen. It's the perfect ratio of omega 6 to omega 3 fatty acids, has a high smoke point, and it's incredibly easy to make for yourself.

[@nicoleanthoine6046]

Lard and duck fat are good as well

[@maxwentworth4391]

@@nicoleanthoine6046 The diets of pigs and ducks are very poor, therefore tallow/dripping would be a better choice.

[@antb3334]

@@nicoleanthoine6046 Incorrect. Duck and lard/pork fat is incredibly high in PUFA as these animals are fed grain and seed. Avoid. Beef and Lamb are ruminant animals who convert PUFA to saturated fat within their bodies. Tallow. Ghee. Butter (ideally from A2 cows), coconut oil is actually great too

[@nicoleanthoine6046]

@@antb3334 oh maybe for some. I live in Texas and get all my meats from the farms. I tender my own tallow and lard.

[@nicoleanthoine6046]

@@maxwentworth4391 we only get local pastured finished animals

[@1ManOpFishing]

Lets not forget the other "invention" of the late 1800s, processed flour and sugar...Coca Cola and white bread, etc.

[@Fernando-jy6gq]

All the things I hate to see people eat. They don't know what it's doing to their teeth and body.

[@cherubin7th]

lol white bread existed thousands of years. but it was just for special occasions and very rich people.

[@bonitabromeliads]

Processed sugar was invented by the Gupta dynasty around 350AD. White flour has been around since 3000BC. WTF are you talking about? The sugar trade boomed in Europe in the 1500's and people were eating things as bad or worse than coca cola all the time. learn some history bro you sound really ignorant.

[@bonitabromeliads]

@@cherubin7th No it was invented by coca cola in the 1800's lol jk

[@1ManOpFishing]

@@bonitabromeliads Wow, you are a genius only spelled with a P.

[@melissawardhaugh4104]

Tallow is incredible. I remember in my body building phase CLA supplements were a go to for leaning out. Took awhile to connect the dots but so glad tallow is being talked about 🌸

[@dealman3312]

Is CLA made with toxic seed oils?

[@AlphaSierra375]

@@dealman3312 Most are made from safflower seed oil but dairy is another source. I believe you're correct in that assertion that they'd be made by the former. Profits everything to these companies.

[@christophdollis1955]

@@AlphaSierra375 Coconut oil is a common source.

[@bamafit1302]

Didn’t take the supplement version but I do eat meat and dairy and can vouch. I took a keto/carnivore approach along with intermittent fasting and I lost 20 lbs in about a month. Ofc most is water weight but a decent amount of fat was lost as well

[@danielwang7472]

@@bamafit1302 tallow and lard is healthy

[@dr.dougmcguff282]

Minor correction. Lyndon Johnson became president after JFK was assassinated in the 1960's. Dwight Eisenhower had a heart attack in the 1950's, triggering the concern for heart disease. Great content as usual.

[@stansassmann9398]

I really like these short sessions. It's good info on my short breaks. Thanks.

[@kynshra8960]

They're not gonna alter their content for just one person, I don't know why you would even try to ask this lol.

[@Sara-gl8ue]

​@@kynshra8960they weren't asking for them to alter their videos. They simply made a statement that they enjoy the shorter segments.

[@tarantulady8565]

Was just telling my husband the grapeseed oil he bought is going in the trash.🤦🏻‍♀️ No, thanks.

[@tarantulady8565]

@Laughingathwrld Avocado oil is also acceptable. Maybe that’s cheaper there? We also use some uncooked olive oil. (We don’t cook with olive oil because heating it oxidizes the oil, making what is a good oil, unhealthy.) The problem now is finding unadulterated olive & avocado oils. They both are routinely found to be unpure & to be cut with other seed & veg oils, unbeknownst to the consumers, making them unhealthy. In the US, through research I’ve done, two I’ve found to be pure are: Chosen Foods brand avocado oil & California Olive Ranch brand olive oil.

[@yourmom-fx4sw]

at least someone has some sense in your home and it aint u

[@Whiskey.Tango.Actual]

@Laughingathwrld so coconut or avocado oil is pretty decent? I cook every day with grape seed because of high temp wok and stuff and after listening to this I need to replace it!

[@Whiskey.Tango.Actual]

@@tarantulady8565 this was super useful for me. Thanks! Replacing my long used grape seed oil tomorrow with avocado from one of those brands!

[@handsvsfood2781]

@@Whiskey.Tango.Actual coconut oil is not for high heat. Use ghee or beef tallow for high heat.

[@steveballmersbaldspot2.095]

I think the bigger issue is cold pressed vs industrial oil. We've been eating cold pressed oils for thousands of years. The industrial crap is what causes problems.

[@Sara-gl8ue]

Correct but vegetables and fruits were much different back then. They had not been genetically altered in a lab, weren't grown in depleted soil, and weren't sprayed with toxic, carcinogenic chemicals that get absorbed into every part of the plant. Food today is nothing like it used to be.

[@infini.tesimo]

I've had a noticable difference in energy and digestion for food when I switched most of my oils and food that was already processed out to animal fats. It may be more expensive but it's worth it.

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

Good lord, the man literally states that the pathophysiology of atherosclerosis "doesn't make any sense to him" yet has the gall to claim that LDL is not casual of ascvd. The lipid hypothesis is largely considered by actual experts to have the strongest evidence of any biomedical disease process. The strength of this evidence is akin to the strength of evidence supporting hennemans size principle of motor unit recruitment for my exercises physiology people. We have numerous genetic mendelian randomization trials with 50 year follow ups and countless RCTs that all support the exact same dose and time dependent relationship with LDL cholesterol. That being: the lower and earlier we can get LDL cholesterol the lower absolute risk is for development of ascvd. It's literally that simple which is why in the genetic studies we see people who have very low LDL cholesterol have as much as a 90% lower lifetime risk of heart disease. The wonderful thing that Dr. Ancel keys and dozes of other researchers in the mid 1900s did was demonstrate the cholesterol influencing effects of different fatty acids which have been uncontested to this very day. The data is literally that rock solid. Saturated fats have twice the LDL raising effect that polyunsaturated fats have on lowering LDL, hence why the general nutrition recommendations are to limit saturated fat and instead replace it with polyunsaturated, mono unsaturated fats or whole grains as all have cardio protection effects. The 50 year follow up data from the seven countries study still depicts this relationship of higer saturated fat content and higher heart disease risk with an incredibly strong correlation, which we now know is casual, of 0.88 or higher. LDL is even depicted in several medical textbooks as the first step in ascvd. Sure, high blood sugar on disband high blood pressure can make this entrance of LDL into the endothelial wall easier, but even in a completely healthy person this can still happen with apo B containng lipoproteins less than 70nm in diameter which even the VLDLs and large LDLs are. Again, this is why we see little to no heart disease in people with genetically low LDL from birth and why lowering LDL levels in people with high cholesterol reduces risk of heart disease. No this lower level is not dangerous in any measurable sense. Blood cholesterol is not the same as cholesterol made within cells so that's a non-starter topic right there. Furthermore, this idea of "people were so healthy back in the late 1800s early 1900s, there was no disease" is complete nonsense. We have MRI data from mummies which shows very advanced ascvd and heart disease. Eating less saturated fat is an overwhelmingly good thing one can do for heath. My last example is from a 30 year long study from Finland where the national food system was overhauled to reduce saturated fat intake from 22-23% of daily calories to 10% or so and the country saw an 80% reduction in heart disease. How does one explain that in other sense aside from lower saturated fat intake led to lower heart disease? You can't. I beg everyone, do not listen to this man. His information is false on the topic and LDL does matter.

[@juniorwhitefish]

Appreciate the info. What does your knowledge tell you about consuming seed oils?

[@Parker_Miller_M.S.]

@@juniorwhitefish glad you asked. The oils, generally, are health promoting when not consumed in excessive amounts that lead to weight gain OR are part of an ultra processed food heavy diet. I use canola when I cook, I use flaxseed oil in my smoothies and in my chili, I'm not against them as foods or culinary ingredients whatsoever. When replacing butter (again so long as weight gain isn't occuring) the oils overwhelmingly lead to better health outcomes including lower risk of death from all causes, lower risk of type 2 diabetes, and most strongly are associated with lower risk of heart disease events and death.

[@kylewilson8633]

We also didn’t have junk food like we do now and most people eat 3 meals a day and didn’t pig out at night

[@ytb695se]

I increased saturated fat recently and saw my HbA1C drop by over half a point from low 5s to mid 4s in the course of the past several months. This is my n=1 for higher sfa in diet.

[@stripedrajang3571]

In the 4's? Wow.

[@karunverma1]

Cold pressed Mustard oil has been used since thousand of years in Asia and Africa. Request you to please make a difference between cold pressed & refined oils. They are different

[@habanerofg2]

Just because they do something for thousands of years, doesn’t make it right.

[@paleinho]

@@habanerofg2 Paul made the claim, right in the beginning, "there was no such thing as a seed oil before 1870" he has not taken the time to look up seed oil history, or just lying. Sesame seed oil was eaten like 5000 years ago, even sunflower oil is around since the 1830s.

[@cloakingcryptids2057]

History “his” “story”

[@danielwang7472]

@@cloakingcryptids2057not all seed oils are bad

[@chrisr.6638]

​@@paleinho We've been eating carnivore for 4.5 million years. Your 5 thousand is laughable

[@karenrevell5354]

I worked at the Naval Shipyard in Bremerton, WA in the mid 80"s, we started noticing how heavy some of the women were getting. We called them Bremalows and Megalows. (not nice but we were surprised) I love watching old shows, Perry Mason is the best, to see the old clothes and the old cars and at least one cigarette lit but seldom inhaled! I would love to see the old commercials that went with the show.

[@johanlofcrantzramsay2753]

Great intervju! Paul is 👑 Thank you for your great work! But I think you mean President Eisenhower in 2:43. He was a heavy smoker too, heart attack in 1955. Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪

[@YouTuber-ep5xx]

Johnson too had a heart attack in '55, but he was not POTUS then, so yes it was Eisenhower's heart attack that got all the attention.

[@dealman3312]

Ray Peat has been talking about this for years. Thanks for breaking it down further Paul. How does everyone feel about fruit oils like olive oil?

[@napakamu9670]

I dunno about olive oil but I think coconut oil should be quite fine. I use it to fry stuff.

[@LuisC7]

Olive oil is most fine as it isnt processed or oxidized. Buy extra virgin black glass

[@no3rdseat]

@@LuisC7 80% of olive oil is "cut" with seed oil to keep the cost down. You have to look for specifically extra virgin first cold press and it has to be from a single country of origin. Most olive oils on the market are combined from IT, ES, GR, etc. Those products usually contain some form of seed oil to keep the cost down.

[@JoJeck]

any oil from a plant is going to have a lot of Linoleic acid (Omega 6) and that is what the problem is. If it is very low in that component then it is less harmful, but otherwise avoid strenuously, that is the chronic killer at the nexus of all modern diseases, including diabetes and obesity and cancer and CVD 😮

[@tedekman7822]

There's truth in what Rick says about fruit oils being diluted with seed oils. Look for the tests that UC Davis did on major olive and avocado oil brands (note: you can find some high-quality brands in their results). They found tons of fakes and also plenty of rancid, oxidized samples. High-quality olive oils are actually very low in the demon polyunsaturated components. The body DOES need a small amount of PUFAs, which are found in all the animal fats as well as the relatively safe olive, avocado, coconut and palm oils. I know Paul takes issue with the polyphenols in olive oil, but many like Steven Gundry make a convincing case otherwise. Good luck! Oils are important.

[@144k_Kingdom_Living]

Same here. Seed oils give me very low stomach acid and my food does not digest along with severe chronic inflammation. For me it takes 2-3 weeks without seed oils for me to start feeling better.

[@stripedrajang3571]

2 to 3 weeks? That's a long time. I would think more closer to 2 to 3 days for it to leave your system, if not shorter.

[@mertonhirsch4734]

I don't eat corn or soy (or peanut, or canola), but no research that I can find has ever demonstrated increased inflammatory markers from high linoleic acid oils. I don't eat them because they do cause sinus inflammation in ME, but why can't we find any research that shows inflammation? The other issue with L.A. is that it can carry oxygen radicals to endothelial tissue which instigates the early stages of CHD.

[@Fernando-jy6gq]

Because the companies in power have been in power too long to find any study that would lose them money.

[@Fernando-jy6gq]

You can see for yourself it affects your nose. Why need some studies to tell you.

[@enigma6357]

@@Fernando-jy6gq "I may be having difficulty losing body fat, have symptoms of inflammation and problems with my sinuses all thanks to eating seed oils, but there are no studies that suggest eating seed oils is unhealthy so I don't think seed oils are unhealthy." Low IQ normie mindset from Merton tbh

[@Fernando-jy6gq]

Some have conditioned us into being this way, but I am free.

[@tjmcniff7497]

Paul, it was Dwight Eisenhower not Johnson 👊👊

[@sardot4960]

If Johnson had a heart attack, nobody would have cared.

[@user-vh3sb4mg3s]

I think he died of a massive heart attack though

[@ErikaWolf93]

Tallow lasts a long time past its suggested expiration date. The "Epic" brand anyway. Yeah for a while now, I've had my suspicions for plant and seed oils. I've used Macadamia nut oil once though and I actually really liked that one.

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

Good choice. Virtually zero linoleic acid in macadamia nut oil. If it wasn’t so expensive I’d be drinking the stuff lol.

[@fweddyfwintsone4491]

Is olive oil, coconut oil and almond oil ok? What exactly is considered a seed oil?

[@direfranchement]

I think the seed oils being referenced are canola/rapeseed oil, grapeseed oil, vegetable oil and shortening, and much of what makes them unhealthy is the process by which they are made.

[@davilfs]

​@@direfranchement what are your thoughts on extravirgin flaxseed oil?

[@direfranchement]

@@davilfs Depends on how it is made.

[@petertoo7846]

Health hero DrPaul...one and only 😊

[@Raggamuffin527]

There were two ads at the end of this video. The second one was for Mazola “cholesterol blocking” 😆

[@enigma6357]

Yeah, let's block the precursor of male hormones real quick. 🤣🤣🤣

[@manitoumimi]

The skit that they’re pumping into cattle today pretty much makes lard far more likely worse than olive oil, IMO. I’d like to see some testing results.

[@gregl4244]

If were talking about correlation, do you think that the rise of refined sugars during the same time frame might have something to do with the rise of heart disease and obesity?

[@brianjohnston6716]

The seed oils are popular because they are called vegetable oil which are high omega 6. Olive and avocado are fruit oils. I believe coconut is safe. Canola is toxic. I am lucky my local fish & chip shop and restaurant both use tallow which is healthier and tastes nicer.

[@moldyketchuphead]

Another correlation to rates of chronic disease increasing dramatically is the rise of chemical agriculture. There are other huge issues as well that bear honest analysis, but this is a really big one and is obviously related closely to seed oils.

[@jimbob1096]

Wondering about omega 7 and 9 oils like Macadamia nut oil. Is it just as dangerous?

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

Nope. Good to go.

[@oliverowens3309]

The darker the butter the more the cow is being fed grass , Oliver

[@EbNorth]

The only seed oil I use is Black Seed Oil..and that's not for cooking with. It's a medicine.

[@farhanbaig678]

So should we consume black seeds by itself? Or are these studies skewed? I’ve read so many that run the experiment then looking at the data it shows better brain flow, memory and other benefits from black seed oil.

[@danielwang7472]

No all seed oils are bad use olive and avocado oil

[@bonitabromeliads]

most seed oils are healthy, ignore these idiots. Just avoid soy, corn and "vegetable" oil

[@Michaah]

actually its not true that there were no seed oils before the mid 19th century. In europe they used flax seed oil for painting and propably for food at some times. In the US its another story though

[@just4deez]

Sesame and flax were used for oil in Egypt, India, China for millennia. Sesame was mostly used for flavoring, but rapeseed and mustard seed was probably also used in India and China for cooking. In the west I don’t think they were used until 1860 though.

[@usada3027]

they were used sparsly because they used every part of the animals tallow, lard, etc was still the dominate fat

[@floralia1909]

And that’s why John William Waterhouse died of cancer at a youngish age.

[@heronwhisky]

Its not a waste of money when you throw it out. Its a waste of money when you buy it.

[@michaeljtowle]

@Paulsaladinomd, whats your take on Black Cumin seed oil as a supplement?

[@Treshar]

What's the difference between seed oils & vegetable oil? Also i was under the impression olive oil has been around for centuries, maybe longer and is supposed to be good for us (correct me if I'm wrong). Is olive oil a seed oil or vegetable oil & where does it fall in this discussion?

[@bobbylee2853]

Olive is a fruit.

[@rebeccabaxter1030]

How do you get seed oils out of your system and repair the inflammation?

[@stripedrajang3571]

Um, you just stop consuming them. They'll leave the body on its own. And you can practice fasting routines.

[@stripedrajang3571]

@MD76MAC, what is CBD?

[@jjolla6391]

one point i disagree on .. that 100 years ago that olive oil was sparingly used -- italians and othe rmediterraneans used it primarily. I'm surprised that a person with an italian name would say otherwise.

[@MrGunner121]

He was talking about Americans

[@MarkVA71]

@2:45 Eisenhower had the heart attack.

[@aliendroneservices6621]

"A 60-cigarette-per-day smoker, Johnson suffered a near-fatal heart attack on July 2, 1955, at age 46. He abruptly gave up smoking as a result and, with only a couple of exceptions, did not resume the habit until after he left the White House on January 20, 1969."

[@mkswagner]

I do go out to eat a few times a month and know I get some, but I m careful with what I order. I have not purchased or cooked with any of these since maybe 2000 - happy I learned about them long ago. Its almost impossible to buy any premade food without the goop.

[@trishacuddy1857]

have you or did you see any health improvements?

[@RoyNation]

Just know this fact: The National heart association was Founded in 1924. Vegetable shortening was based on cottonseed oil in the early 1900s. Crisco was introduced in 1912 and more deaths were the caused by heart related problems. It seems that Seed Oils is something to aviod in cooking.

[@robertchew8167]

Eisenhower had the heart attack

[@brianwick]

What about olive oil? How good or bad is it?

[@lukepalmer5272]

It’s good

[@ketovore8813]

According to Google both Eisenhower and Johnson had heart attacks in 1955

[@tnvol5331]

"In a 2017 study, for example, researchers determined that linoleic acid intake did not have a significant effect on the blood concentration of inflammatory markers. Similarly, a 2015 study suggests that linoleic acid does not promote inflammation. Furthermore, a 2021 study in the American Heart Association’s journal Cardiology found that linoleic and arachidonic acid are associated with a lower risk for cardiovascular disease and that linoleic acid could play a role in prevention of the disease. A 2022 study even found that linoleic acid could be associated with better physical function in adults over age 70."

[@Kirathian1234]

You will never get through to these people. Ever. They will ignore every study and meta-analysis on the subject because seed oils don't seem "natural" or something. Most of the people in these comments would fall for the dihydrogen monoxide parody.

[@bonitabromeliads]

But don't you know that science is just a conspiracy to calcify our penial gland to keep us from achieving maximum gains?!

[@woolgathrr]

​@@Kirathian1234yeah let's trust oils that degrade the cardiolipin, replacing it with inferior fatty acids leading to reduced mitochondrial function, make fat cells less sensitive to insulin, & oxidize cholesterol like it's no one's business. We get it, you're not suspicious of the most obvious elephant in the room ever & you're not about learning new things, but please don't denigrate those of us who are.

[@woolgathrr]

Oh, look. New studies that conveniently counter the older, less biased ones.

[@tnvol5331]

@@woolgathrr The older studies are NOT "less biased". They are the promotion of some "nutritionist" trying to sell their program. I don't think anyone is sure about anything but one thing is clear to everyone: Seed oils can't be as harmful as claimed (if they are harmful at all) otherwise there would not be so much contradictory data. For example there is zero contradictory data about the ill effects of cigarettes.

[@nephiindustries]

Love this clip! Thanks so much for your work Paul!!

[@joeninho4528]

Does Rice Bran Oil count?

[@Mistral434]

It's the refining process that makes any oil unhealthy. The origin of the oil is less important - the traditional process of extracting oil is perfectly natural, no chemicals, just mechanical press + cloth filter. This fixation on "seed oil" as a general boogeyman is not based on strong science.

[@lovingitonketo]

(Harry here) Great information. Really liked this episode

[@thomasyoung1588]

Paul or anyone: my doctor recommended borage seed oil for dry eyes( for the GLA -gamma linoleic acid) Is this a detrimental oil like the other seed oils?

[@mcgeufer]

Would you mind adding a list with the DOI numbers for the trails?

[@JoJeck]

It was Eisenhower who had the heart attack not Johnson 😃

[@aliendroneservices6621]

"A 60-cigarette-per-day smoker, Johnson suffered a near-fatal heart attack on July 2, 1955, at age 46. He abruptly gave up smoking as a result and, with only a couple of exceptions, did not resume the habit until after he left the White House on January 20, 1969."

[@wassimc3106]

Hummus dates back to the 13th century and is primarily chickpeas, seseame (tahini$) and olive oil, now can someone explain to me why he is saying 18th-19th century

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

Olive oil is a fruit oil not a seed oil. Smashed chickpeas and sesame seeds are also not seed oils. That being said, there is evidence of mustard seed oil in China going back at least 500 years. I think what Paul is talking about is the widespread consumption of industrial seed oils in a whole population’s food supply. That’s a modern phenomenon.

[@livefreeallways]

People ask your restaruants if they use these toxic oils and let them know you won't eat there if they continue to use them. If enough people do this for that particular establishement they may consider switching.

[@LizardK1983]

What about castor oil for skin care?

[@waffle_chair9269]

What is seed oil? What are the examples? Coconuts are the seeds? Black seed oil has been used medicinally for thousands of years. Why this vague term? Is the point to cause confusion?

[@PluckyUnderdog]

I'm just venturing into this for the first time. I'm pretty healthy, 43, 6ft, 180lbs. Already eat a lot of animal foods (cream, cheese, eggs, meat, butter) but also eat a lot of veg. I half wonder if the veg gives me the year round rhinitis symptoms I seem to suffer from. So, I'm going to give what is done a try. Animal produce, with some fruit. And some raw dairy (getting in some raw milk soon). I'm a little nervous about getting enough electrolytes, but, I'm willing to give it a go.

[@westoncroye643]

How have you been feeling on this diet?

[@clopez389]

Been on an animal based diet for 2 months now. I have no electrolyte issues. I take a pinch of Celtic salt every time I drink a glass of water. Plus you’ll get some electrolytes from the fruits. Best I’ve felt in my 35yrs on this planet

[@gerardbraun8269]

Besides the seed oils in their natural state : how many pesticides are sprayed on the "fields of gold".

[@vikingmuscle]

I am trying to spread awareness about animal based dieting. I bodybuild and compete in marathons. I never lack energy, I wish I had a platform to show how successful one can be on an animal based diet. I really appreciate your work, you are my main inspiration and where I get a lot of my ideas from.

[@Really10801]

Well, they do use Hexane to produce seed oils... it is an industrial chemical, common in cleaning products, paint and adhesives. It is well known to be toxic to humans, so there's that... that's all I need to know, for me there is no need to debate and compare anecdotes.

[@jakeliftsnshreds6670]

So I cook with butter, but what kind of oils are OK to cook instead of vegetable or canola oil?

[@battai0912]

None lol

[@OuterStryke]

​@@battai0912 False. Extra Virgin Olive oil is fresh (not rancid unlike seed oils) and nutritionally correct (unlike seed oils) and is safe to cook with (There's countering evidence in regards to the carcinogenic at high heat claims)/ Others on this list is Coconut OIl and Avocado Oil. Tip: Oils are best fresh, since all oils oxidize (oxidation makes food turn rancid) then the more directly sourced the better for your oils (Sourced from all over the world is not ideal.) Tip 2: Oil and fat are exceedingly health for you, but not all fats/oils are healthy for you. Be mindful of what you consume and notice the crazy difference!

[@chrisr.6638]

Tallow

[@eron521]

Would love to see you debate Mike Israetel

[@chadmackie3438]

Never minding that Johnson smoked like multiple packs of cigarettes a day, a HUGE risk factor for cardiovascular disease 🙃

[@alanequi2786]

Johnson wasn't the president who had a heart attack, though, and he also wasn't president in the early 1950s. Dr. Saladino is wrong on both these points. It was Eisenhower, in 1955, and you are right, he was a very heavy smoker!

[@adinahwithkaden]

I don't eat seed oils. I eat almost all my meals at home, and when I do eat out, I only eat at restaurants that use butter and tallow.

[@yanni_]

We have to stop relying on convenience. At this point most of our food needs to made at home so you know exactly what’s in it. Sugar and Oil is in almost everything

[@myheadofhair]

I could have sworn this channel was called Paul Saladino, did he change the name back to carnivore MD or am I trippin' out?

[@anybodyoutthere3208]

It was Now he switched it up for some reason Who knows

[@myheadofhair]

@@anybodyoutthere3208 ahh ok so I am not crazy lolol. Thanks!

[@Ritalie]

It's probably a Mandela Effect. I had that happen with Lex Friedman. Suddenly one day it was "Lex Fridman" podcast. I searched on Google and there are still tons of websites that say "Lex Friedman." If you search Google using a forced search, you can use Google's quantum connections to see the "residue" of previous timelines. Once you actually see the residue, it's very disturbing. In this case, for as long as I can remember, it has always been CarnivoreMD. I don't remember his channel ever being called "Paul Saladino." Unless it was several years ago. He hasn't been a carnivore for several years now, at least 2 or 3 years?

[@myheadofhair]

@@Ritalie I've definitely heard of the Mandela effect and yes it's possible! However, I am telling you (the other comment confirmed this as well) that he went from Carnivore MD to Paul Saladino and then back.

[@kubrakutlu9711]

If seed oils are the cause of increasing heart disease and obesity, why did cholesterol started to be an issue in mid 90s even though seed oils decrease cholesterol?

[@identifiesas65.wheresmyche95]

Obviously the easy thing to do is to cut it out all together but there seems to be a fair bit of research that it may be cooking with seed oil that is the issue, heating it up, not necessarily uses that doesnt heat it up to high temperatures.

[@danielwang7472]

There are healthy oils like olive and avocado oil. But most store bought olive oil are fake. Butter, tallow, pork/duck fat is very good for you

[@chrisr.6638]

That's not correct at all. It's the production of these seed oils in itself which heats it up to ungodly temperatures and makes them rancid. They're all rancid and they have to deodorize them in bleach, before they sell them

[@bonitabromeliads]

Avocado oil is good up to 500 degrees which means it's healthy for cooking

[@MichaelFox-cc8of]

Interesting the heart attacks and diabetes were rare in the early 1900's. However, you have to take into account that people died a lot earlier. Before BP meds were discovered men died in their 40's pretty regularly.

[@adonisphurailatapam4035]

Can i use mustard oil

[@موسى_7]

Is sesame oil okay?

[@judybay2372]

How about Rice Bran Oil??

[@frequentlycynical642]

No, it was President Eisenhower had his heart attack, not Johnson. Sheesh.

[@SibolSensei]

1870 CE ?!!! Try around 3000 BCE with Sesame Seed Oil that people did consume and whose use in cooking spread through Asia before the Common Period; Paul's not off to a good start.

[@erso3302]

The science on these fats has been done. From what I've gathered, it comes down to Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratios.

[@danielwang7472]

Omega 6 is not bad

[@brawndothethirstmutilator9848]

@danielwang7472, Too much omega 6 is bad. Especially without enough omega 3 to keep in balance. Ancestral diets throughout history averaged an omega-6:3 ratio of between 1:4 and 4:1. Average American consumes an omega-6:3 ratio of between 16:1 and 20:1. Way out of balance.

[@chriss4365]

If it's in all our food wtf do we eat then?

[@_King_J_]

Correlation of seed oils and disease does not necessarily mean causation. You can correlate trend lines of lots of things. Not 100% convinced by your argument but interesting observations fo sho

[@chrisr.6638]

Makes more sense than vegans blaming meat for everything.

[@LunakieCherrie]

Seed oils are a problem, why are people obese then

[@rebelsnappingturtle5097]

Even olive oil these days is tainted with crap But I'm glad the food industry is on the buyers side. Just think if they weren't.

[@rebeccabaxter1030]

The food industry is on the side of PROFITS AND SHAREHOLDERS. That means they are not worried about the health risk of their product and the American people. That attitude should be treated as a terrorist in our nation that used to be great.

[@habanerofg2]

I am pretty sure it was Dwight Eisenhower’s heart attack that caused the “saturated fat bad” mantra we have today, Nina teicholtz has talked about it at length among many other doctors and researchers.

[@danielwang7472]

He was a big smoker. Smoking was the cause, not meat

[@yoldas9110]

800+ studies backing black seed oil and its benefits in almost all areas in life. Also approved by Prophet Muhammad (pbuh). I believe it depends on what type of seed oil you use.

[@jassa2160]

Stop believing your prophet Muhammad fairy tales

[@ManlyServant]

the same religion that told people drinking camel's pee is sunnah

[@موسى_7]

Subhan Allah. What about sesame oil? I'm sure that's also good.

[@akent46]

CarnivoreMD.... Do you consume alcohol ever? Love your work BTW.

[@loganw861]

Paul almost never drinks alcohol, I’ve listened to 90% of his podcasts. Sounds like he has 2 or 3 drinks a year, at most, from what I’ve gathered.

[@alexvfirehead]

I wish Paul could put some source of references for us to study the history of seed oils arising into human consumption from crisco.

[@nadinejoyce1203]

I put toasted sesame seed oil on my 🐾 feet🔵👣🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻🌻

[@Hypnopotimus27]

why?

[@TheCarnivoreSoprano]

@@Hypnopotimus27 it keeps their feet (and yours) from cracking.

[@nicoleanthoine6046]

I use tallow on my skin. It soaks right in.

[@antb3334]

Jesus! Use 100% squalane . Nothing better.

[@audreygregis8721]

@@nicoleanthoine6046 It's amazing how it soaks right in!I've been using tallow on my face, as a moisturizer. Take a tiny bit and warm it on my fingers then onto my face. It's quite amazing how it's balanced my oily complexion, even at 68. I tend to go without any moisturizer in the summer, and still my complexion will glow in the dark. I'm always blotting. In the winter, I need a small bit of moisturizer, but everything I've tried still makes me "shiny." Who knew that tallow would be the thing! Doesn't make my skin oilier, even under my mineral makeup. Why didn't I find this out YEARS ago! I make my own tallow, as I'm lucky to have a grass fed beef farmer locally..

[@jaliaskilo]

What about FLAX SEED OIL ??? unhealthy?

[@johnmichaelnarciso9684]

Is olive oil considered as seed oil? Please give me a genuine answer, so that I can cut it off me and my family's diet.

[@SpammingUNow]

Olive oil is a fruit oil

[@Faithful_Tribe]

Thanks Paul.

[@aprilboelter2090]

What about avocado oil? It has a much higher heat point than butter.

[@danielwang7472]

It’s healthier than seed oils but not all seed oils are bad he needs to make the difference between refined and cold pressed

[@aprilboelter2090]

@@danielwang7472 Thank you!

[@Whoreallyknows]

@@danielwang7472he does watch more of his content.

[@sjustus7]

Eisenhower was the president who had a heart attack and had to temporarily step down from the office.

[@billland9936]

Look at the research, Man!

[@ceeell5772]

2.44 It was Eisenhower. 😊

[@siphotheguy1870]

Ancient Chinese civilizations discovered that hemp seed is high in protein, vitamins, and essential fatty and amino acids an ideal source of food and nutrition. The hemp seeds and stalks were also pressed to make hemp oil and salves. Seed oils have been around for far longer than this guy claims

[@greco37]

How is it that a can of Pam cooking spray has 0 g of fat?

[@jaquillahillahfoodstamps]

Because the good industry is full of liars

[@gabri.mac3]

When adjusted for total population and age, deaths caused by heart deseases has only raised from 1990 to about 1950, then started to DECREASE constantly in all developed countries until today. Let's be intellectually honest and start to exclude this argument from the equation.