The History of English Martial Arts pt1

[@Stephen_Curtin]

We do have some sources taking about the wrestling style where a belt was worn. Pietro Monte, writing in the late 15th century, states that in both Britains (referring to Great Britain and Brittany in France) states that no holds were allowed bellow the waist, and wrestlers had to be thrown on their backs to count as a fall. The same two rules are also found in Richard Carew's Survey of Cornwall, published in 1602, though probably written years earlier.

[@Two-Die-Four]

Really interesting video, please continue with the series.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Yes boss!

[@waynegoddard4065]

What do you call a team of fighters? Fight Team!!!!!!!! Yeah Baby!!!!!!!!!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

😀

[@bewarethegreyghost]

You would definitely find a chat with @chadi interesting. His channel specializes in comparing and contrasting judo with other historical wrestling styles.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

I'll try and reach out.

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

A good brief tour of English personal combat history. Such briefs as these are a very good jumping-off point to one's own research. FIGHT TEAM!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

That was kinda the goal. Each bit is a potential video, or point of interest.

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Awesome! Many thanks :) Keep going, for sure! :)

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Not sure how long I can keep up daily videos, but I'm good for a little longer!

[@harjutapa]

I feel like almost every sentence in this video could be expanded into its own 10 minute video! I'd love to see a more in-depth chronological overview of the history of martial arts in England.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

It's definitely on the cards!

[@Stephen_Curtin]

Great stuff as always FIGHT TEAM!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Thank you!

[@PunchCatcher]

I'm all in favor of more

[@RetroWalrus1]

I'd love to see a video on Cromwell, the Ironsides and The Soldier's Catchecism.

[@stevenpremmel4116]

Theres something quite relatable in 13th century fencing masters having day jobs.

[@stoneslash]

I like it. Do another.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Will do!

[@craigcarroll1790]

Fun information!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Thank-you!

[@RichardRohlin]

Fight team! I'm a traditional longbow shooter, as well as a BJJ guy. I would love to know more about why longbow practice was banned around the time of Henry VIII.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

No, it was the exact opposite! It was dying out as a thing people just did, and so a law was passed making it compulsory!

[@RichardRohlin]

@@EnglishMartialArts thanks, I misunderstood that!

[@gabriellaycock5209]

I'd never heard that about the Saviolo manual (which I was looking at earlier on this afternoon, by an odd coincidence). Interesting stuff, though - please carry on!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

It's very well written for someone who was said not to speak particularly good English. And doesn't actually claim to be written by him, just that it is his system....

[@bubbagump2341]

Any Tudor/Jacobean/Stuart Era English language reference to a "longsword" is referring to a single handed sword with a long blade, not a two handed sword!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Errrrr thanks?

[@bubbagump2341]

@@EnglishMartialArts Well, you mentioned the teaching of longsword in one bit and I didn't want anyone to be confused . . . lol

[@davidemelia6296]

Has a 'longsword' ever referred to a two handed sword in any context?

[@bubbagump2341]

@@davidemelia6296 Certainly not in the English language and not in German, either. "Longsword" as a term for a two handed sword is a modern HEMA term. Historically they were referred to as two handed swords!

[@BlueMageWithSoulEdge]

Yes, keep going you glorious English Muffin you. There was things I didn't know, now I must know more.

[@ahmedsameh4408]

Can't wait for part 2 😁

[@jayhizzle5765]

Awesome vid, please do more of these!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Thank you I will.

[@vercingetorixwulf9298]

I'm doing well thanks. Really liking the vids

[@mgunnermusic]

Wow, I only asked for a video like this a few days ago, that is service! Is there really no documentation on wrestling up to that point? I'd be really interested in a continuing series on this, although I'd have to ask that you maybe speak slower if you could... I'm assuming that you're keeping the videos short to spare your sanity with editing and schedule, but a longer video with more in-depth context of fighting styles would be really cool.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Just for you mate! I deliberately went for a faster paced video than normal to try to fly through it as quickly as I could. But yes, you're right about scripting, filming, and editing a video for every single day being a bit of a killer... As to wrestling. There is some, but nothing I'd class as hugely reliable.

[@mgunnermusic]

@@EnglishMartialArts thank you! Constant content creation is arduous. Your content quality is amazing considering the time you're giving yourself! Are you finding every day posting is helping?

[@EnglishMartialArts]

@mgunnermusic in some ways yes, but not quite as much as I'd hoped. Even with nearly 30k subs, and daily content going out I still find myself about one zero off being able to survive off this place.

[@mgunnermusic]

@@EnglishMartialArts recently I've been putting out main videos weekly, and then just making tiny snippets of the videos for shorts. The main videos grow at a snails pace, but the shorts are doing waaaay better and getting me x10 as many subs. What I don't know is if those sub's actually carry across to the main content. Small promising signs, but I don't know

[@EnglishMartialArts]

@@mgunnermusic The impression I get it that shorts can grow your subs pretty quickly, but it doesn't have much of an effect on the views of your longer videos. But we should maybe jump on a zoom call and have a chat in more detail about numbers and stuff... See if we can help each other out.

[@tonk84]

Roger the Skirmisher?! Why cant i have a name like that. Also...FIGHT TEAM!!!

[@EnglishMartialArts]

I shall call you that from now on...

[@Poohze01]

Wow, that was a lightning-speed whistlestop tour! Well done! I'd appreciate more on the earlier manuscripts (if there is any more), because I'm pretty ignorant about anything before Silver in Britain.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

OK, there's definitely a video or two in there.

[@colemanstarr5404]

ya, keep going

[@tomdegisi]

Anything? Yes! Everything? (Probably also yes. 😊)

[@EnglishMartialArts]

OK, that kinda works. 😀

[@rhonddarousey9683]

Keep going

[@patrickhunter9525]

Wow jumping straight to the eleven hundreds with no coverage of chariot usage despite Ceaser's extensive documentation :)

[@EnglishMartialArts]

I'm so tempted to do a video on all the things people do and call HEMA that have no historical evidence and are clearly bullshit...

[@LuxisAlukard]

This is amazing history lesson! (See what I did there?)

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Ooooh, a second channel reference. Impressive!

[@LuxisAlukard]

@@EnglishMartialArts What can I say - I like finding cool stuff! OK, that was cheating =)

[@EnglishMartialArts]

@@LuxisAlukard We've been seriously talking about starting that one up again. We stopped because my wife got pregnant - we found something really cool - but both kinda want to start it again.

[@schuletrip]

Not sure there are many things as interest as English History

[@strtmnky]

The problem with making 'content' instead of proper videos is that you are just repeating the same generic bunk that has been repeated for the last 100 years. There is no evidence of incorporation of the comapany of masters. Henry VIII issued the same type of warrant as James VI/I but a warrant only authorises the named person to act in the authority of the crown to enact that which is written on the warrant. THere si no incorporation nor patent for fencing masters. Is there any evidence to suggest the masters of defence (not the comapny of masters) continued to try and get guild status? We know they had legal recognition from Elizabethan laws and fencers only needed license from two justices of the peace to run a school. The law stating that 'all' Englishmen must practice with a longbow always forgets the fact that in this time peasants were not legally recognised as citizens and so were not subject to the law and perpetuates the misconception that peasants went to war or that yeomna were 'lowly'. War was fought by Lords, Gentlemen and Yeomen even into the civil war. This is five minutes of secondary source that brings nothing to the table. If you are going to do a part two perhaps you could do some research and bring to light some of the truths behind the fancy stories made up by the victorians? Maybe dispel some of the myths you have peddled in this video? This tired old nonsense that sits in every book on the subject citing the same secondary sources is a bit tired these days. X

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Maybe this isn't the channel for you.

[@davidemelia6296]

Your crappy backyard video of your mates 'practicing' fencing in your backyard with too-loud music blasting over the top of it adds even less. Go take a look in the mirror. And why capitalise 'Lords', 'Gentlemen', and 'Yeomen'? Those are proper nouns? 🤣

[@strtmnky]

Because you have no intention of portraying any kind of historical accuracy. Got it. Perhaps, just out of respect for all the historical researchers who spend days trawling through original manuscripts in the basement libraries of various establishments and the historians who spend their time trying to correct inaccurate beliefs that people have due to the peddling of nonsense, out of respect for those who dedicate their lives and careers to trying to further our knowledge and understanding of the past, you could write 'for entertainment purposes only' on your work. Just, if you have any respect for the work historians do....

[@EnglishMartialArts]

@strtmnky 🤣🤣🤣 you my friend are the living embodiment of everything that is wrong with HEMA.

[@strtmnky]

😂 Do you have a source for that claim?! 😂😂😂