TAPPING - WHERE, WHEN, & HOW

[@fletchkeilman2205]

Hey, Good sir! I hope you are well. My mother misses your melodious voice on Sundays when I come over and cook. I listen to this channel while I do so. As always, I hope your training is going well...oh and that you and yours are healthy and happy! We need an update! And more content!

[@whim6287]

It can be a source of frustration when someone is so scared of being hurt that they become too quick to tap and take forever and a day to learn.

[@grimmriffer]

I remember going to a judo club, managed to get a guy bigger than me in a choke. He struggled to his feet, I was on his back cranking the hold on, and he made sort of patting motions. "Are you tapping?" Shakes head. I keep hold. More patting. "Are you tapping?" Shakes head, more patting, then finally a tap. Then he says "it's against the rules to hold a choke on someone if they get to their feet, I was telling you to get down". Ok, fine... But he was determined not to tap in order to explain it, which seems daft!

[@Fred-px5xu]

Once again thank you for bringing a bit of joy to an elderly gentleman who is a recovering heart patients. I enjoyed the banter. And your spot on in regards to training advice. Of course I also appreciate the judicious use humour sprinkle about the narrative. I truly appreciate you sharing your expertise on the subject as well. Please continue producing great video content. God bless you and family!

[@KuyVonBraun]

Classic beginners mistake is to not tap soon enough and the end result is very sore limbs/joints. Ofc a big no-no is to not let go the moment someone taps, don’t second guess them, if they tap then break the hold.

[@Stephen_Curtin]

When you're unable to tap either with your hands or verbally, and you have to resort to stomping your foot; you just pray the other person hears it.. ahh good times. Fight Team!

[@bolieve603]

I always combine a verbal tap with feet, actually. You can feel a solid foot tap through the mats and when combined with verbal it's two sources of confirmation. The key to tapping with feet is to kick the mats hard with your heel. I find that often in techniques where both arms are entangled the mouth is covered as well, that's why it's nice to add the feet.

[@AlexanderGent]

Good video although I would say there is one other thing you could have maybe expanded on and that's newbies knowing when to tap. Some submissions may not be painful and if the person doesn't know what to look for they may not know they need to tap. So whilst I agree with not tapping early, it also depends on how well someone understands the feeling of the submission. Hope that makes sense!

[@corrugatedcavalier5266]

Absolutely! Critical at every level, and I appreciate the "it's just something that happens, move on" and "it's a sign that they've done something correctly" mentality.

[@Philo68]

My first grappling class back in the 70’s - I’ll NEVER tap. I’m the best of all time etc, etc. 5 mins and one neck crank later it all went pear shaped. Then I started learning… Edit for spelling.

[@marcelozerbini5411]

The two most important skills both in life and on the mats: Tapping and falling. I think there's a talk between Roukas (martial arts journey) and Matt Thornton in which Thornton states that tapping has a humbling effect. Tapping is voluntarily acknowledging defeat. And one does not get a black belt in BJJ if they didn't acknowledge defeat at least five thousand times. Now, THAT'S humbling in a very concrete way

[@marcelozerbini5411]

And it's funny because 5.000 taps for a black belt in BJJ is actually a good estimate. It is said that it takes ten years for a BJJ black belt, so 5000/10=500 taps per year. 500/50 weeks= 10 taps per week. If you train thrice a week that's 3,33333333... taps per training section. That's actually about it at the very least!

[@MrCmon113]

Not really "defeat" unless it's a tournament or you're going super hard in training.

[@toddapplegate3988]

Trust goes both ways and should take time to develop.

[@johnstuartkeller5244]

Another fine example of martial training teaching a life lesson. Fight team!

[@ruiseartalcorn]

Very good advice indeed! My system is not a "grappling" art, as such, however we do have a lot of grappling within it (stand up grappling, locks, holds, chokes, etc) and tapping is extremely important, for all the reasons you just mentioned. Many thanks for another great video :)

[@EnglishMartialArts]

Thank-you!

[@mgunnermusic]

What's the history of tapping and submissions in English martial arts? Lots of styles of wrestling just seem to have the pin, but is that a more modern variation?

[@hailhydreigon2700]

Do you have a video on the History of the tap itself? I always wondered where the behavior originated from and why. Also, fight teammmm

[@EnglishMartialArts]

I don't. It's an interesting subject, I'll see what I can find out

[@lewisb85]

@@EnglishMartialArts its from judo The Original Kodokan Judo Tournament Rules H. Irving Hancock and Katsukuma Higashi, The Complete Kano Jiu-Jitsu (Judo), (New York: Dover Publications, 1905) 6. When a defeated combatant finds himself obliged to acknowledge his submission, he must pat or hit the floor or his antagonist's body, or somewhere, with his hand or foot. This patting with foot or hand is to be regarded as a token of surrender.

[@EnglishMartialArts]

@@lewisb85 It's in there. That doesn't mean it started there.

[@hailhydreigon2700]

@lewisb85 is it from Judo though? Or did Judo get it from somewhere else (because Kano did borrow from a lot of other systems). I heard that verbal acknowledgements of defeat were the norm. But due to crowds being loud, they resorted to a physical gesture.

[@davidbyrnes8541]

Tapping on someone to get their attention is seemingly common sense when the other person may not be able to properly see you or hear you to determine you're trying to get attention, for whatever reason not just when grappling, so I have a suspicion that this very simple action originated in many different places all at the samegeneral time (parallel thinking) without influence from other cultures.

[@BeepBoop2221]

I like to tap when we will call him... Gary, the 37 year old tradesman who thinks hes the next Gordon Ryan tries to drop all of his weight into an Americana like its the IBJJ finals. But in reality its specific sparring on a Wednesday.

[@lizbogonia]

Ngl I thought this said taping and I was so confused 😂

[@addj7093]

Can you do a video on Catch Wrestling Hooks 🪝 thank you 🙏🏻