The History of Project M/+ Knuckles - Project M Nexus

[@Motobug]

I finally got a full length, high quality video out on Nexus! Between all my other projects I unfortunately didn't have much time to help out with Nexus, but now that I finally can I've been working super quick. If you take out the vacation I took in the middle of this video's production, this video went from scripting to voiceover to editing to done in a WEEK. I learned a lot about video editing during the process of making this, especially due to help from Shee. This is a topic I'm obviously very passionate about, and I'm super proud of how this video came out; expect more from me here in the future! - Moto

[@sduboe]

Moto, you truly do carry the community. Now if only there was a way to let the person know that, and keep the ego in the dark...

[@darquezze306]

While it's very unlikely that the other three characters will ever be completed to the quality standards of PM, it's amazing to see Knuckles release and hopefully some day, the other three will get the same love

[@darquezze306]

@JulianRock lyn, isaac, and sami (who's model got leaked aswell) apparently skull kid and paper mario were things aswell?

[@RockyTheThird]

Remix is doing good to Isaac and Lyn. I have and am still working on alternate model costumes for Lyn and Isaac. Both are still in beta form. I also feel like it was best Isaac wasnt completed by PM mainly because of the many coding imrpovements. Sami is really the only one that hasnt benefited much but that could change someday.

[@darquezze306]

@@RockyTheThird im not really a fan of the remix Isaac tbh. Although Lyn is nice

[@RockyTheThird]

@@darquezze306 Yeah Ik that feeling. Its hard to get his moveset just right. Too complicated he doesnt play well make it too simple like SSF2 and he has zero charm

[@cstick2664]

Correct me if I’m wrong but but Lyn was just as complete/incomplete as Knuckles in the leaked build. With blessing from the right pmdt members it’s.... not impossible for her to be added

[@kirb5464]

6:34 can we mention that the official sonic account tweeted this

[@artistmeme8103]

oh damn really?

[@marioluigi3122]

So, even Sega acknowledged that Project M was loved while all Nintendo does (and still) cares about was making sure that they were the only ones making money by sending their ninjas out to kill fan games and the dreams of millions of fan creators? When will Nintendo (of Japan and America) see that their fans in a more positive light rather than view their fans in a negative light?

[@originalname1008]

6:35 hold up. The official sonic Twitter?!

[@ProjectMNexus]

Yup. Sad day indeed

[@Alakadoof]

Man, Shanus was out of PMDT leadership for at least a year+ before any actual work began on Knux. SHeLL led the team at that point.

[@ProjectMNexus]

I got that tidbit of information (and other pre-dev info) from this video from Virum: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eX2uomOvnddofKc If that's not correct, I can note it in my comment or in the description - Moto

[@matthewgonzalez6960]

​@@ProjectMNexus since when did you get the leaked build of project M

[@SolarFarle]

I love playing as Knuckles in Project+.

[@davidbessex6685]

Being a casual smash player, this was super interesting to watch the history behind Knuckles. I would love to see more history behind PM. I NEVER knew knuckles took 8 YEARS to develop. Thats insane. Keep up the videos Nexus.

[@dluxx3719]

8:38 ngl the developer who wouldn't let the team use that code is petty

[@boboloon]

This is really cool. I wouldn't have thought this much talent and professionalism would've gone to a fan game/mod. You can just tell these dudes are passionate and truly enjoy what they do. I really like this video.

[@Bokobodobo]

Absolutely wonderful to see this. Having spent so long in the community and watching this unfold for myself, seeing it all again in this format gave me a strange sense of bittersweet nostalgia. To think we went from mourning the loss of PM in late 2015, to seeing Knuckles brought to full completion 5 years later, is wonderful!

[@LMANPAD]

I wonder how Lyn is doing

[@karc4]

Yeah, i need a Project + quality Lyn, oh yes

[@stanzacosmi]

Lyn's been picked up by other modpacks such as cobalt legacy and what not, while not at the same level of knuckles in quality, she's still pretty neat to play as.

[@karc4]

@@stanzacosmi Yeah x2, legacy XP and project plus has the most worked characters of all mods. And yeah x3, PMEX, Cobalt and Kitsu Lyn are playable 👍

[@_fudgepop01]

absolutely fantastic video. I LOVE the history that was shown off and discussed - super interesting stuff :3

[@aubreyskipper9642]

I just want to mention the amount of passion that went into a single character is really awesome though I still wonder if Lyn and Isaac will ever get released tho

[@johnleecooper8520]

this was a great video! i can only hope one day... lyn might get the same love

[@novanebula8004]

There's been multiple good versions of Lyn for years now

[@dabluepittoo-aqua4213]

Project M has always felt incomplete That changes when Knuckles got added

[@mBluett]

I remember Silentd00m making new animations for Knuckles on twitch after PMDT ceased development "just for fun". He said it would never be released, so I'm glad to hear those animations made their way to P+.

[@fingerstripespm]

Incredible video! I had no idea you guys recorded him!

[@Internet_Canuck]

6:36 damn my respect for the people behind the Sonic Twitter account continues to grow!

[@felixcnascimento]

Knuckles is awesome, I really enjoy playing with him in P+! ;)

[@cds3703]

6:35 quite nice of the official sonic twitter to acknowledge thos

[@Mr.madmight266]

I think it would be nice to have the option to also play as the PMBeta Knuckles as well. I also think they should've kept his original running animation. Most of the characters have running animations that are based on how they run in their respective games.

[@mariotaz]

Brilliant work from the team.

[@mgyoshi]

Super sick video, great details, love it

[@araknair9605]

Soon we shall meet the princess of the plains...

[@InkRoller18]

Knuckles is my favorite sonic character so this is a dream come true

[@nck9755]

Amazing video. Really wish we could look at those old builds though

[@ElModistoDeConsolasRetro]

Que buena historia, like!

[@SmashCrafter321]

Dis gon b good.

[@stixsis4656]

Oh man, if you're talking about Knuckles do you think you could talk about the other fighters that were planned for Project M like Lyn and Isaac? I know they're not implemented in Project + but I think it would still make for a fun video.

[@betanick14]

awesome video!

[@gooeybob_drawing3692]

Knuckles looks like such a fun character, I would love to play as him.

[@hightiergamer5558]

Great video man

[@szion72]

Whether it was half a decade of being used to it, or genuine disagreement, I still don't like the meteor on f-air. Still, its more than beautiful that..that which some of us literally dreamed of happened.

[@GhibliNova]

hope people finish Lyn and Issac... really hopeful for Isaac

[@sad_potato9230]

Someone named U.N.Owen had mad a somewhat complete version of isaac

[@Skypatroller_BenCD]

01:44 technically this move originated in Sonic&Knuckles because he wasn't playable in Sonic 3

[@olafoos9623]

Sakurai really missed with this one right here

[@bluespikeydude4915]

Modding SSBB has been something my brother and I tried to do way back in like 2012. We were too young to even figure out if we were doing anything right and PM or anything wasn’t out yet. The two characters we wanted to mod in were Shadow and Knuckles. I haven’t really payed any attention to modding Smash for a while. Is it even possible to add characters into P+ or are we just stuck with the characters that it already has?

[@Kapedanii]

P+EX is being developed which will allow you to add characters to P+ just like you can with PMEX

[@bluespikeydude4915]

@@Kapedanii So can you add characters as of now or that’s a feature coming in the future? Edit: and would there be a specific way to add characters or...??

[@Kapedanii]

@@bluespikeydude4915 In the future, the devs of P+EX are still ironing some bugs. I'm sure someone will make a guide of how to add characters and builds like Smash Bros. CE will be using P+EX and have characters like Shadow already on it

[@Mr.O24]

Yes AND KNUCKLES

[@palletdrop3297]

The one dislike is from dr eggman

[@dragon091327]

I remember how upset I was when I found out project M was canning development; I was in the school library absolutely shocked.

[@MeesterTweester]

Dang, 8 years in development!

[@loganharrison1079]

Good video, I'd ask for more but there is only one Knuckles. If we ever get more characters, I'd love to see a series.

[@seanyboigaming8204]

Anyone know how to download this? I've been struggling with getting project +. If anyone knows how to copy it, I'd gladly pay for it

[@TheDeepThinker-sq3iy]

Not sure if your still struggling with this(This post is about a year old)just look up a guide! I went the hackless route. fortunately, I had the sd card as well as an sd card reader for my computer(my computer cant read sd cards by default). Basically... all you really need is an sd card(for the hackless method)and you can load this up through stage builder and it'll work! there is a bit of a process so just find a guide here on youtube for all of the details(the correct sd card and such), but it is NOT difficult AT ALL to do with the hackless method! though, I SHOULD give you an early heads up, you'll end up losing the ability to make new stages in stage builder with this method(but ONLY if you have the sd card in the console. just MAKE SURE you have that empty each time you want to load project plus up). but don't worry about it too much... because you'll be gaining the entire universe in exchange with this mod. And No payments are necessary btw... I just like helping people out whenever I can. PRO tip btw, if by any chance you load up the game and you just see a circle in the loading process in stage builder but nothing loads up(but it WORKED before)so you end up resetting to try again but the screen just freezes, DON'T panic! just unplug the console(yes, because its a HARD crash, power button doesn't work, at least it didn't for me)then re plug it back in. I've noticed that this happens ONLY after you attempt to exit out into the wii menu and then start brawl back up(you've reseted, but NEVER turned the console off). then just start brawl back up and load up stage builder again... SHOULD work. it seems each time for this to work, the console HAS to have been turned off then RE turned back on. you cant just reset and just go back into project plus for some reason. it should also be mentioned, I did this on a wiiu. I don't really know if you'll end up with the same problem assuming your doing this on an actual wii. thought I should mention this because the guide I used to help me set this up NEVER specified this issue and when this happened to me... I thought I had bricked my console, lol.😅

[@jacquespaught]

Kinda skipped a lot of details between CC and Project +. Bringobrongo's take on the moveset, the official release of Nanobuds's model...

[@GoldDragon20]

Pichu should be next, everyone has seen what he rat could do in Ultimate.

[@marinizethelazydolphin6691]

I remember when Knuckles was called stage cleared lmao

[@edmaster93]

And what about Lyn and Isaac ? They are in development yet ? I hope so.

[@LunarNovaInkling]

Nope, they aren’t

[@StarWalker-si4nm]

Sad they left Mighty out, I love this character though.

[@worldsboss]

It’s awesome that they finished him, but so tragic that they don’t have plans to finish Lyn, Isaac or Sami 😔

[@SunsetBear]

ayyy my costume is in this video lmao

[@SharonisCarin321]

What happened to smash CE's twitter? Did they fold up?

[@cafuckinb]

How does one play this these days if they no longer have a Wii plus Brawl?

[@ProjectMNexus]

We have a tutorial on how to set up P+ on our channel, check it out

[@matthewgonzalez6960]

​@@ProjectMNexuscan when you got the leaked build???

[@sebastianrodriguez8692]

Just dreaming of the day someone ports Knuckles into Ultimate.

[@goGothitaLOL]

same

[@elkarlo1593]

Knuckles is the best Sonic I hope he gets in smash some day

[@lycantubeves5992]

When are Lyn and Isaac going to be completed?

[@segettocx_809]

I want to PM RANK Work whit Smash Remix Team to implement more characters

[@albertocardoso8551]

Nos vamos ver

[@codysalisbury7658]

Wonder what ever happend to Lyn and Issac

[@DarkHyperSonic7]

Knock knock it’s SHEE

[@Sheecacaa3]

Lol

[@ElijahW2003]

10:42 LMAO WHAT WAS THAT

[@Mark-iy2zl]

ok cool but what's project M

[@mythicalcapo187]

How is sora not in project m

[@onassisjavierdiazestrada3767]

Why don't bring us Pichu?

[@davidbravo8073]

Why did they kill project M!?

[@s-n-g-b1457]

Oh god, Sega knows!

[@neurosis51]

Did they ever add Roy's FE Awakening outfit to PM+? I'm also in the Lyn Camp of next added character if the + Dev team decide to add another. The Project M/+ series of iteration still probably rank as the most downloaded game mod to date, lasting as many years as it did, the quality speaks for itself.

[@Brob2nd]

Yeah, they did add the FE Awakening costume

[@finalgambit9677]

Yay knuckles

[@bepo8958]

&knucks&knucks&knucks

[@Mark---W]

Sonic is the 3rd party franchise to need another representative. There are 3 possible characters to become fighters: Shadow, Tails, Dr. Eggman. In my opinion it should be Shadow to break the (-) stigma on Sonic as campy & annoying playstyle. To also break the mold of having TWO spin dashes (just why did they do this?). We see a patern in Fighters Pass 2, that the characters are from the same company from Fighter Pass 1. We have Nintendo with Byleth & Min Min. We have Microsoft with Banjo & Steve. We have Squire Enix with Hero & Sepiroth. Now we three slots left. So far the two other companies Altus & SNK & third slot for fan favorite. Joker from Persona franchise which is owned by Altus franchise which is also owned by Sega. So Sega can add another Sonic representative in Smash. Shadow can be added in a way that Sakurai tells us the Assist Trophy Shadow is a "Shadow Android" & gives the possibility for the real Shadow to be playable. I think Shadow should be the one to break the Assist Trophy "fan rule". Shadow can be sort of a mix between Sonic & Mewtwo with a hint of EDGE to the hog. A character who is nearly as fast as Sonic with Chaos powers that can teleport, throw projectiles, can even create a huge explosion (Chaos Blast). This time Sakurai needs to bring moveset from SONIC BATTLE to Shadow's moveset. Make people appreciate the Sonic Franchise. Not to mention that Sonic's 30th anniversary is right around the corner. What better way to celebrate than to bring in "The ULTIMATE LIFEFORM" in Smash Ultimate.

[@goGothitaLOL]

now that Pyra/Mythra took up the 4th slot, this leaves us with 2 left

[@ultrascarlet5275]

Sora out here breaking people's hearts

[@marioluigi3122]

@@ultrascarlet5275 But, P+EX now exists so you can now have Shadow and Sora battle it out to find out who should’ve been in the final dlc fighter for Super Smash Bros Ultimate.

[@edgarsintitulo4468]

If you added knuckles, you may add tails as well, just saying

[@finnz7786]

9:02 i dont like fair meteor

[@laneuwu1660]

Why?

[@finnz7786]

@@laneuwu1660 dair already has that function and it messes up opportunities more so than not

[@finnz7786]

Well thats a stretch but i jus rather have it have horizontal kb

[@tsukimaru131]

All of this just to be able to use a 2017 desd meme in the title.... If That's not dedication, I don't know what is

[@Mark---W]

Which "Assist Trophy" character deserves to be the fighter? It's either between Waluigi or Shadow. Honestly Shadow the Hedgehog has a much better moveset potential over Waluigi. Not to mention that Shadow is much more important than Waluigi in the role of his franchise. I need to relive the moments of Super Mario Bro Z with all the main characters including the Ultimate Lifeform to be a part of the ULTIMATE SMASH BROS. The ULTIMATE LIFEFORM should be the one to break "fan rule" of Assist Trophy being upgraded in the same game.

[@marioluigi3122]

Sora is in ultimate now but now with p+ex, you can have Shadow The Hedgehog and Sora duke it out to see who truly should have been the final dlc character in Ultimate.

[@vard1865]

Shadow by a long shot Waluigi is just that Mario character used to fill up the roster

[@RePlayQ]

Too bad p+ came out right as COVID was picking up steam, coulda got a lotttt more attention

[@sebastiandewolfe7849]

And now project plus is being killed

[@leandrolitenski1655]

i want to see Dark PIT in Project + : )

[@finnz7786]

First jk

[@Vexonia_Music]

& Knuckles

[@lay-lowandsmash1519]

Someone should send this game to Mr. Sakurai. And add shadow.

[@ABOhiccups]

Do you know da wae?

[@RockyTheThird]

This made me chuckle harder than the rest of them