The Human-Covenant War: Aliens are Real and Hate YOU, Specifically (Featuring The Remembrancer)

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[@edmundthespiffing2920]

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[@Teddybomb]

only 30 days? how will i restrain myself?

[@infinitehonkworks195]

could you at least pretend to have dignity, instead of shilling spambot tier shovelware

[@fumarc4501]

Looking forward to the Flood Video and if they could survive the 40K universe. Interested in Mass Effect lore, Protheans and Reapers specifically?

[@stevenreid2223]

No.

[@joelv.6209]

Everybody's gangsta until

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

Space Marines be like: Tonight we dine in hell!!!

[@SpartanX027]

Bro don't say those words. I'm getting ptsd 💀

[@hollowedshadow2822]

[Slipspace rupture detected]

[@crimsondynamo615]

Can’t believe I felt a similar experience again over cyberstan

[@oRealMegabolt]

Bro, why the F do you have to give everyone here ptsd? Lol

[@louiekite7033]

I've always liked the idea that while the Covenant maintain a technological and numerical advantage over the UNSC, they all hate each other. The Grunts are scared of the Brutes who hate the Elites who mistrust the Jackals. Meanwhile, squads of Marines and ODST have every disadvantage against them, but function more as a cohesive unit, which more than likely spared them in multiple battles, details like that are what really grab me about Halo lore.

[@allendepacheco3419]

Considering that the entire human race survived and later rebuild itself back to normal due to the fact that the covenant just started a civil war near the final days of the war and became a series of war states really showed the importance of unity. Hell the Banished were able to thrive fighting against the covenant because they're united as outsiders and respect each other regardless of species.

[@LighthouseLiars]

Yeah the Covenant are like Austia-Hungary in WW1. Difficult to maintain army cohesion.

[@fumarc4501]

That is a good point.

[@mememachine6022]

@@LighthouseLiars cmon dont diss the covenant like that. As an austrian i can say ah was never technological advanced😂

[@straygaming-u7i]

Where do the Hunters enter in that?

[@spartanx9293]

To those wondering what Preston Cole said here's the exact quote "Listen to me, Covenant. I am Vice Admiral Preston J. Cole commanding the human flagship, Everest. You claim to be the holy and glorious inheritors of the universe? I spit on your so-called holiness. You dare judge us unfit? After I have personally sent more than three hundred of your vainglorious ships to hell? After kicking your collective butts off Harvest - not once - but twice? From where I sit, we are the worthy inheritors. You think otherwise, you can come and try to prove me wrong." - One of Admiral Cole's last known transmissions directed to the Covenant fleet above Viperidae.[1]

[@aubreyhuff46]

Fucking based

[@ShaiHulud-i5i]

The covenant must've been pissed after hearing that.

[@asemiintelligentork8388]

The Covenant's reaction upon receiving this message. kzbin.info/www/bejne/immyaKRobstpmtk

[@CommissarChaotic]

@@ShaiHulud-i5i Exactly!

[@VexArrowEye]

I fucking love this short story

[@yasquishyboi902]

"Aliens are real and hate You specifically" is now my favorite sentence ever and im gonna use it such a powerful insult

[@rianmacdonald9454]

is fact really an insult??

[@lavellelee5734]

I love his sense of humor 😹

[@lavellelee5734]

@@rianmacdonald9454 I mean....is it not the greatest compliment???

[@jonathanathor117]

Man I never realised that this is the premise to a vast majority of sci fi shows, movies, comics, games, books and other media.

[@nobleman9393]

Reminds me of "God was real, and he hated us"

[@Integer_Overload]

Funniest shit that the Jackal pirate vessel that started all of this was named the _Minor Transgression_ 😂

[@godofdestructionFTW]

OOF

[@Woopor]

And it was the most peaceful species that caused the first casualty

[@MothFable]

@@WooporI think peaceful depends on how much shit you have lol

[@thatmeatguy8418]

​@@Woopor Lighter Than Some be like: Woe, rock be upon thee

[@chheinrich8486]

Current listing to contact harvest on audible

[@alexsmith7313]

“Deploy the UNSC Say My Name and begin Operation Bum-Rush.” If you needed any more confirmation that the UNSC is just Americans in Space; there it is.

[@blueguy2128]

Yup they're the US military 😂

[@marksmanmerc1]

They even have their own space CIA.

[@Andrewbaysura1]

Ngl I thought the UNSC was mostly Australian because of Halo CE... almost everyone was Australian except for Sgt. Major Johnson. Even the Elites and grunts had a hint of Australian in them!

[@googleisevil8958]

I mean... the UNSC ships are literally flying guns. Every ship is made around their main canon. It's like Americans in in the future looked at the A-10 in their history and went "Yeah that's cool an all... but what happens if we made the gun BIGGER?"

[@googleisevil8958]

@@Andrewbaysura1 There's only one Australian in the game... and his name is Chipps Dubbo.

[@starhammer5247]

This is an accurate representation. Humanity was fucked and it took a whole lotta luck for them to survive.

[@comradekenobi6908]

And bs plot armour

[@benjamintherogue2421]

@@comradekenobi6908 I don't know about that. They bled massively everywhere they fought.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@benjamintherogue2421 for Main characters

[@starhammer5247]

@@comradekenobi6908 The Covenant killed over or close to 620 Spartans. 600 of those Spartans were twelve years old and only bought the UNSC a few months and the other 20 were Spartan-IIs, one of them was torn in half by a Hunter. The UNSC only had a dozen Spartans left by the end of the war. The UNSC had 800 worlds. They had close to 200 by the end of the war. The UNSC was losing hard enough that they prepared to leave Earth and fuck right off. Reach was their most defended planet they had outside of Earth and the original books on Reach had it fall in 3 HOURS. Not months, hours. The later lore had it that Reach only lasted only a few weeks, and the fleet that took Reach wasn't even half of what they had. The fleet defending Reach was almost everything the UNSC had. The only Plot Armour existed in Chief. Everyone else was just fucked. Preston Cole only won his battles because he tried insane maneuvers that the Covenant didn't predict. It took around a 5:1 advantage in numbers for the UNSC to take one Covenant ship. A fleet of fifteen was reduced to three, and it was against one ship.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@starhammer5247 yeah im talking about Chief plot amour, also the convietnly the Covenant decided to commit civil wars when they invaded earth

[@morte2504]

I only realised that now but is "They outnumbet us 3:1 - then it is an even fight" a call back to how the UNSC needed a 3:1 numerical advantage to stand a chance?

[@the_corvid97]

You could say that, though it's more likely just the fact that Elites tend to be better tacticians than the Brutes.

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

@@the_corvid97 it’s probably just a cool callback to the lore?

[@0sm1um76]

@@mysteriousstranger5873 Bungie were famously irreverent to any lore that wasn't made by them in the games. They viewed other authors writing in their universe(contracted to do so by Microsoft) negatively, and during the production of Halo Reach Bungie actively sought to contradict the popular novel which depicted the Fall of Reach. In my opinion that wasn't very cool of them, but anyway that is to say I highly doubt it was any sort of callback.

[@dylanholven6375]

@@the_corvid97 based racist shipmaster

[@potatostarch9363]

@@0sm1um76 probs why they sold out to destiny xd

[@hungryfrog3605]

I knew Halo lore was mostly about Humans being on the back foot, but I never realized just how MUCH on the back foot. Really like this vid and would def watch more

[@zombieoverlord5173]

Yea the few Human ships that you see in Halo 3 are likely the only ships the UNSC can scrounge up anymore. Humanity went from 800 planets to 10s of planets

[@jasondahfolf4325]

Yeah, it got to the point where Fleet Admiral Lord Hood, the head of the UNSC, had very little fight left in him after the Flood invasion of Earth was dealt with. He was content to have Humanity basically be a dog licking its grievous wounds if it weren’t Master Chief, Miranda Keyes, and R’tas Vadum to convince him that sending in a strike team to aid the Elites was their best move

[@Peusterokos1]

iirc humanity essentially went from 120 billion souls down to a mere 6 to 10 by the end of halo 3. Gives some context to how many lives where lost

[@cavaugnsharkey2699]

​@@Peusterokos1 39 billion*

[@dozergames2395]

​@@cavaugnsharkey2699 if i remmber correctly that was just the people in the age group to bekidnapped for the spartan program Tho im newer to the fanfom (less than 10 years) so that could be rewrite

[@imperialfist2304]

As long as any Spartan II breathes, Reach will be remembered.

[@pill0bug347]

What are your thoughts on the Imperial Sticks?

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

Hey, you're talking like Reach is dead! Go read Shadows of Reach!

[@pill0bug347]

@@kostakatsoulis2922 good book, but it in a trilogy where the first 2 books take place at the very F*cking beginning of the war. THERE IS LIKE 28 YEAR GAP AND ITS STILL A TRILOGY.

[@fumarc4501]

Reach was a trap set by ONI. The Fall was inevitable, but ONI let the gates down.

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

@@pill0bug347 ok?

[@spoopydoge4356]

When Regret's fleet jumped to earth, they had no idea it was humanity's cradle, let alone inhabited by humanity. They thought it was uninhabited, thats why the fleet was so small. They jumped there because they thought the Ark was there, which was really actually the portal to the ark, so thats a double whammy.

[@CoercedJab]

Do people not know this? It’s literally the story of 2 and 3 lol

[@crimsondynamo615]

Well his name is fitting at least in this respect.

[@camiloruizcastellar4740]

Same thing happened on Reach, that Covenat admiral super carrier just sent some guys to excavate a relic and go to his wife for diner, next morning in the briefing he is being told this is the hardest human stronghold they have found in three decades of war.

[@Shadethewolfy]

that's actually really funny imagining Thel's surprise at learning just how heavily defended Reach is. Though it also makes the ending cutscene of Night of Long Solace with the Fleet of Particular Justice jumping in en masse hit even harder.@@camiloruizcastellar4740 -Also, a friend and I have a theory on what the Forerunner artifact that was on Reach was. A Domain Node.- Jossed. It was a Builder ship. Just found it on halopedia.

[@Maxipadtriplesix]

@@CoercedJab It was kind of hard to follow the story as a 13 year old running over grunts in a tank while ignoring everything cortana was trying to tell me.

[@Ikcatcher]

It’s honestly amazing how humanity managed to survived fighting the Covenant for 27 years

[@culterwaleddy]

To be fair by the end of it only 1/4 of humanity remained.

[@reentrysfs6317]

@@culterwaleddy massive overestimate. By the end of the war humanity had a couple ships remaining and only earth that was left.

[@baneofbanes]

@@reentrysfs6317 yah that’s not even close dude. After the battle of reach the covenant bypassed most of the inner colonies and went right for earth. On topped of that most of earth‘s population was evacuated before and during the battle of earth, and later repopulated. After the war humanities total population was approximately 11 billion.

[@reentrysfs6317]

@@baneofbanes oh I didn’t realize.

[@ddandymann]

​@@culterwaleddy Not even that. At the start of the war there were around 180 billion humans with only 10 billion alive at the end.

[@latrodectusmactans7592]

There's a planet in the center of the Ark being mined to make the new Halo. Love that little design detail.

[@martinnavarrete5279]

I think the ark even can use some sistems to bring more planets to mine materials

[@kjj26k]

@@martinnavarrete5279 There is a novel, I forget which, where after the war the monitor of the Ark sends a massive fleet of capital-ship-sized harvester sentinels through the portal at Africa to grind up Earth for resources to repair Installation 00 and as revenge on Humanity for breaking it in the first place. Almost the entire UNSC Navy and a fleet of Sangheli ships were floating right there when this happened. It would have been a complete slaughter of the alliance if the protag strike team didn't defeat the angry monitor in time.

[@theenderclops]

@@kjj26k hunters in the dark

[@pitig1970]

the halo tv show is a dark eldar creation for how torturing it is

[@mikkelangelokers9965]

I'd rather become a human chair for the rest of eternity then watching the Halo tv show again

[@LAV-III]

The horniness in the show definitely shows that it was made by the deldar

[@eclipsexgaming1169]

What you mean you dont like reach city?

[@henryheavy8044]

Dude chill

[@fumarc4501]

That makes me sad. It wasn’t that bad… right?

[@schoenperkins8210]

Fun fact about the rings and their construction: aside from planet eating sentinels, the Ark was also capable of abducting an entire planet through slipspace. You can see the current victim being used to construct the new Ringworld at the core of the Ark in halo 3

[@Linki8uu]

Yep I believe if I’m remembering correctly they are called foundary worlds

[@Shadethewolfy]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Greater Ark had the same capability, just on a much more grander scale given that it was supposedly larger than the Ark humanity finds (called the Lesser Ark)

[@God-xr4yu]

@@ShadethewolfyThe greater ark and the original 12 halo rings were about 3 times larger than the lesser ark and the 7 current halo rings. The greater ark was 300,000 kilometers across compared to the lesser ark’s 100,000 kilometers. The original halo rings had a diameter of 30,000 kilometers, whereas the current ones are 10,000 kilometers.

[@Shadethewolfy]

ooooh, that's really neat. Thanks! :D@@God-xr4yu

[@aimlesscrusader_6768]

@@God-xr4yu Add a few more zeros bud. The ratios are right, but the scale is all wrong. Eg, the current halos are 10,000km in diameter, not meters.

[@HolyknightVader999]

UNSC vs the Covenant is what 40K pretends to be. Humanity in Halo is legitimately in danger of being eradicated.

[@Hy93Ri0n]

You’re actually completely right about that. Yet another reason for us to fracture the imperium

[@Eatmydbzballs]

And when it happens people aren't moaning and being depressed at their imminent extinction. No, by the time of Halo CE that despair had long since rapped around into a near suicidal disregard for their lives. In the middle of combat soldiers happily joke about their imminent demise- "You see that, sheer terror!" -Random Marine to Master Chief Battle of New Mombasa -and charge into battle against Scarabs on ATVs with Rocket Launchers... The only time that 40K comes close is the fall of Cadia, 'where the planet broke before the guard did.' While the UNSC does not have enough medals to award posthumously to all the people that sacraficed their lives so that others would live one more day. And in the end, everyone of those sacrifices ment something. V. Adm Cole, Noble Team (-Jun), Captain Keyes, Comander Keyes, Sgt. Johnson.

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

In macross humanity gets wiped out to the 10s of 1,000s. They only win because of the power of music. The militaristic human race that did the deed have had zero culture beforehand, and they basicly had to mass convert them via song, and kissing. They repopulated using cloning tecknology and sent colony/migration fleets across the galaxy. They then went on to befriend the race that enslaved a fleet of their near eradicators, space vampires from another dimension that nearly took over the galaxy in the past, and tyranids on steroids that their creators(Basicly Forerunners), nearly worshipped and based their tecknology off of. I don't know if this is better or worse.

[@theonewhoknocks2465]

That's not what the imperium is suppose to be though they are suppose to be in a decaying status but not weak like the bizantines after thr Golden age

[@lionelhafthor8288]

Ok man, we know that neither of them are going to die out cause of plot. The UNSC is basically at most 800 planets (for some stupid reason some old lore states only 17 are populated) against far more advanced aliens with an unknown amount of planets (at least more than 300) of course any advanced species can be a threat if given 27 years to fight you. Comparing that to 40k is like saying the tau with barely tens of worlds can threaten a species that has more than a million worlds. They dont have the numbers to be an immediate threat.

[@jorywasylnuk1437]

Personally speaking wouldn't mind more Halo videos out of you. The passion in your voice when talking about this franchise (one I know a lot of people know a lot more then 40k) is just awesome. The Elites are one of my favorite Alien races in all of fiction and it's a dam crime Modren Halo seems to have forgotten the uneasy alliance between them and humanity.

[@pancreasnowork9939]

Some of it makes sense like ONI destabilizing then as soon as they could. I mean, it’s ONI, they make the inquisition look nice in terms of how evil they are relative to the setting they’re in. That being said, I do wish there was more in the games about that. Going right back to slaughtering Elites in Halo 4 felt kinda cheap - one of the biggest plot points in the series is about how the Elites were betrayed by the Prophets and were just gonna go back to slaughtering them by the dozen? Honestly it was a letdown. Also Elite Preferred Species is the mark of a champion I’ll die in this hill.

[@jonathanoriley8260]

@@pancreasnowork9939 Amen, brother!

[@lavellelee5734]

@@pancreasnowork9939 they have some of the most drip in the whole franchise

[@jonathanathor117]

@@pancreasnowork9939 ONI is basically the CIA, IRS fused together. I've seen enough wendigoon and documentaries to not mess with them.

[@jonasribeiro2001]

@@pancreasnowork9939 more halo lore would be awesome

[@zoneoperator]

There's some great sub-plots related to the insurrectionists. That since they got so good at guerilla warfare against the UNSC, they adapted and survived when the covenant came and were some of the longest holdouts behind enemy lines. Even when the war ended some of their strongholds were still alive and were able to return to human space.

[@sovietunion7643]

i always liked the moral greyness of the insurrectionists because we really get to see how some of what the UNSC and especially ONI does to start the hostilites so it wasn't as if it was 'morally perfect government versus looney toons bad guy' and makes them seem more complicated than just terrorists. also consider the outer colonies were sending most of their resources to far away planets they will never visit let alone live on, and you can see why they were so pissed off. even if they were terrible and commited a billion terrorist actions you can see why they did it.

[@midgetydeath]

No, not really. In the lore the Covenant mostly ignored them to focus on the UNSC and the innies fled when the UNSC lost or were not noticed and just stayed hidden. They rarely engaged the Covenant. They were, generally, doing the same thing to the UNSC that the Chinese communists did in the Japanese invasion: wait for the war to end and then swoop in to conquer the weakened nation. And yes, I do completely reject the 343i attempts to glorify the Insurrection or try to make them look powerful or like sympathetic villains or “victims”. It’s like someone trying to retcon history to make it look like China deserved what Japan did to it.

[@brentreimer6411]

The Long Night Of Solace, The Truth And Reconciliation, The Fleet Of Particular Justice, The Fleet Of Holy Respite. I could go on... the Covenant have banger names for their fleets & ships.

[@Angry_Peanut_52]

Nearly every faction in Halo has banger ship names. UNSC has the Abstract Endurance, Armageddon's Edge, Bad Moon Rising, Spirit of Fire, Dark Was the Night, Do You Feel Lucky?, and Say My Name Banished with the Enduring Convention, Hammer of Fate, and Ghost of Gbraakon.

[@tgdm]

My favorite was the Unyielding Hierophant.

[@blademaster2390]

@@Angry_Peanut_52Even the ships that dont have epic names in Halo have epic stories. Take the _UNSC Iroquois_ for example. A generally mundane name, yes, but she’s one of very few human ships during the Human-Covenant War that was able to fully invert the odds Humanity needed to beat a Covenant warship, and achieved a victory against 3 Covenant ships *by itself.* Or the _UNSC Midsummer Night_ as another example. Again, rather mundane name, but it was one of, if not the only UNSC ship to use literal *asteroids* as a weapon against the Covenant. And no, I’m definitely not biased only listing ships commanded by Jacob Keyes, a man so gangster as to destroy a Covenant stealth ship by personally introducing it to the outer hull armor of a UNSC Destroyer immediately after getting a whole tactical maneuver named after him.

[@havel4385]

i love the image of the flood either joining or fighting the tyranids, mainly in octrus. just a massive brawl of flood, nids and orks beating the crap out of each other with necrons and imperium just shooting indiscriminately into the mess.

[@dinodude6992]

@Lord Balthos Ad Inferni And orks, because it wouldn't be fun without em

[@allendepacheco3419]

@Lord Balthos Ad Inferni We could also include the Reapers from Mass Effect and Necromorphs from Dead Space. Maybe have the Xenomorphs from Aliens to join the fun as well. A massive brawl between six hive aliens fighting for total control, plus the orks

[@myduckisonqauck7227]

@@allendepacheco3419 No arachnids, or vajra?

[@havel4385]

@Lord Balthos Ad Inferni yeah that would work better.

[@nobleman9393]

Cravers: Can we also join?

[@wowliker642]

5:20 That grunt actually flipped out and mauled a marine to death. That is what lead to the war starting.

[@joeman9173]

Militiaman*

[@praisebimbus7207]

Honestly the closest thing I can think of as an equivalent in 40k is imperium vs. the tau. No matter what victories the tau have, there is no hope for them against the impossibly massive military force of the imperium. The only reason the tau are not extinct is because the imperium gets distracted with all the other stuff that's going, similarly to how humanity and the UNSC in halo aren't extinct only because the covenant have a civil war.

[@comradekenobi6908]

Plus the Tau and Imperium are willing to negotiate, compared to like the Covenant (except maybe the Elites, but that's because they got betrayed) and humanity

[@kalash9467]

Yeah but with 3 different takes: Negotiations are not on the table, kill or be killed The tech of humanity is so primitive compared to the covenant side its even frightening, so no advantage in that Despite that, Unsx is actually good in close combat, like, even a normal Marine can win against a hunter with bare hands

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@kalash9467 how can a marine win against a hunter bare handed?

[@kalash9467]

@@comradekenobi6908 The Hunters have their structure made with exclusive worms, their species allows them to be a main predator in their planet by forming humongous constructs made of thousands of them. That obviously gives them a huge pro, but the con is that if they lose enough of them worms, specially in the spine section, they die instantly. A marine clinged on the back of a hunter and started with all his force strip the worms out of their body, letting it completely loose and killing it.

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@kalash9467 do the worms bite

[@galling2052]

When you find out that humanities struggle was more grimdrak in halo than its equivalent in 40k

[@David-ni5hj]

lmao no way!!!

[@spartanx9293]

The proper term in this situation is not grim dark it's Noble dark yeah s***'s f***** up beyond all repair but they're still hope for the future and the human race was still saved not to mention the ueg is nowhere near as despotic as the imperium don't get me wrong onj is awful really really awful

[@thewerdna]

@DavGP1208 Humanity was more fucked in Halo than in 40k. Yeah, the threats in 40k are way worse, but humanity in 40k is also way stronger. The Imperium has never been as absolutely screwed as the UNSC was. In the end of the day, humanity only survived in Halo because the enemy decided to have a civil war that caused the Covenant's best warriors to switch sides

[@starhammer5247]

@@David-ni5hj Warhammer is grimdark because grimdark and everything sucks but humanity isn't close to falling. Halo is grimdark because holy fuck they are getting their absolute shit kicked in while the enemy fires little crystals that shatter inside of you, sending micro-crystals that tear up your arteries and bloodstream even if you survive.

[@eclipsexgaming1169]

@@starhammer5247 the fact that its called blamite, and even the covenant dont really know how it works makes it even better

[@ragemonkey117]

The one thing I like about 343's UNSC is that humanity adapted alien tech to their own postwar FAST. I love it.

[@joshuasatterwhite9520]

Kinda helps when a one thel vadme and sir half jaw I don't know my fucking dad jerkin them off😭

[@aurelian2668]

Humanities greatest gift, ADAPTABILITY.

[@alaskamark4562]

I gotta say, I never cared for 343's version of Halo. One of the many problems I have is how the tone of the series changed from Humanity being the underdogs desperately fighting tooth and nail for the smallest of victories against an overwhelming and persistent alien empire, to basically just curb-stomping everything. Now all Humanity does is send in the Infinity and hordes of Spartans to play whack-a-mole with whatever random salty alien dude who wants to wipe out all Humans for no good reason. The new lore is a joke compared to the old.

[@markss367]

@@alaskamark4562 that isnt fully accurate

[@magicmilk5195]

@@alaskamark4562 I don’t if know played the new halo infinity but the ship of infinity was destroyed in an instant

[@handleonafridge6828]

Halo had always felt more desperate and hopeless than 40k to me. Playing Halo Reach really hammers home that feeling, another Spartan dies with each new chapter. The terrain slowly turns from a lush forested area into a harsh desert with fire always burning. Having the last mission simply say “survive” is all that’s needed to feel hopeless. While with 40k all I think is “oh well, there goes another planet. The imperium *will* bounce back from this despite them being called a dying empire. Actually, they seem to be making gains everywhere else. Oh, what’s this? The demons and aliens haven’t even gotten close to Earth since the Heresy? Well, shit, I guess I’ll just leave for a bit and comeback when things get interesting.” To be fair to 40k it did start out with only the game in mind, but simply having everyone be a bad guy and *saying* that it’s desperate doesn’t make me feel like everything is all tied to a string that’s ready to break at any moment. The Horus heresy feels more desperate than 40k, which probably comes from it stemming from people having the primary goal of writing a story and not making a war game.

[@isaiahsmith6016]

I think this explains why 40k's scale ends up working against itself. It's hard to feel the impact of an entire planet being blown up when the Imperium's holdings are counted in the hundreds of thousands Whereas other settings aren't as vast, so events have much more of an impact.

[@ihaveajojoaddiction9592]

40k is more meant to feel fucked up then desperate though, so it really depends on if you like feeling desperate or “holy shit that’s fucked”

[@midragga]

My friend, I completely understand from your perspective about 40k but I would recommend you read any of the blood angel books. THOSE MAKE YOU REALLY FEEL HOPELESS... like mephiston and the black rage or Dante just wanting to die instead of leading chapter while more and more sons of sanguinius keep falling to the black rage at a faster and faster rate.

[@magicmilk5195]

@@midragga But the imperium bounces back up again, that’s what he’s implying, it doesn’t have that “oh fuck were actually losing” kind of vibe, halo perfects that vibe to a 100 because of it’s one man stands and unknown heroes

[@TinNguyen-sw8uc]

@@magicmilk5195 Humanity in Halo is far weaker than humanity in warhammer 40k. Weapons that have planet level of destruction are child toys and they literally have like an army of Spartan but on steroids. People keep saying human in warhammer 40k is a weak race they could kick like most of the faction in warhammer the only thing that stopping them is their stubbornness to change.

[@zoidsfan12]

I love that this video definitely comes from having that moment where you realized you read all the halo books but have no-one to talk about it with. I know I had that problem lol. Halo genuinely has some of the best lore material outside of the games. Like 40k has a near infinite amount of books but you kinda need that context when it's just a table top game. Halo its just all clarification and extra lore details and I love that. Like one of the books is just "hey how did chief get back to the unsc after blowing up the halo ring" and it's like one of the coolest books in the series. Also the writing about how terrifying the flood were to fight is amazing, don't know how I'd react now but as a middle schooler reading it for the first time that shit was terrifying.

[@Isaacreeper]

19:27 "All except for this one guy who never gets PTSD because he doesnt make it to the 'post' in Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder" That line read got me

[@bananakinflyswatter904]

I recall an old comment that described Halo’s humanity fairly accurately on a surface level: “Humanity- a history of a species getting knocked down and getting back up again”.

[@captc0ck5lap60]

"Reach. Our great bastion. A jewel in humanity's interstellar crown. Mighty. Unbreakable. But to _them?_ Reach was nothing. To their leaders? Just another world to be glassed. To the Elites? A chance for glory and honour, fighting us on the ground. Jackels salivated at the thought of picking through the leftovers. Our grandest defensive edifice was nothing more than a nuisance to them. From the first moment an alien laid eyes on her, Reach's destruction was all but inevitable. We could do nothing but struggle in vain and hope beyond hope for a miracle. No miracle ever came."

[@midgetydeath]

Then maybe the UNSC should have put more than twenty ODPs around it. And focused more on such weapons and things like Bident missiles than on more ships that they know didn’t stand any chance.

[@affarinoxa]

I do wish that during the reach segment you would've mentioned how the entirety of the planatry defense put everything they got to take down the one supercarrier, took thousands of losses but did succed. Only for many, many more supercarriers to arrive minutes after. Ps. One of the first battleships to engage with the Covent during the battle of harvest was called the "Two For Flinching". Idk why but I love that name

[@joshuasatterwhite9520]

Lmfao where'd you get this info from? Is it in Contact Harvest?😭

[@affarinoxa]

@@joshuasatterwhite9520 yeah it's in the book contact harvest

[@crimsondynamo615]

That’s such a great ship name.

[@Mgl1206]

“Atlantis The Lost Empire” is that you?

[@benderossett1543]

​@@Mgl1206 This is the UNSC "Lost Empire of Atlantis"

[@double1777]

As a massive Halo lore fan, this video is a dream come true…

[@heboric6136]

What I'm about to say is coming from a lore slut but I've never been less triggered by a power scaling video than the "how would the covenant fare in 40K" at least I think that's the title. Couple months ago now but highly highly recommend. I believe it's even the pop up at the start of chapter 3

[@fumarc4501]

Seconded

[@Vaz44-4]

I wish he starts doing lore videos about halo. I can just feel the passion behind these, and I'd love to see more of him about Halo.

[@peterbarca8783]

I always liked the Halo novels (At least the OG ones before Thursday War) way more than WH40k novels. And that's coming from someone who's a huge fan of both. They were just more "professionally" done if that could be a good word for it. While WH40K is all ultra-grimdark or ultra-plot armor a lot of the Halo novels explained the more human or mortal aspects while keeping a gung-ho military look on it without going too far. For WH40k you know in your heart that no matter how hopeless the situation is and no matter how many space marines or Imperial Guard regiments die there are thousands of others to take on the torch to make a stand against all the stuff GW can throw at it. But for the Halo novels there is an extreme grind to it but in a good way. The short stories like Dirt usually emphasize this very well. A hopeless situation with normal people up against overwhelming odds. Even the Spartans get their sh*t kicked in due to the sheer brute force of the Covenant. The mass sacrifice of the Spartan IIs on Reach, and the entire Ghosts of Onyx book explaining the origin and decimation of the Spartan IIIs don't give you that "Ultra-Smurf-Rowboat Girlyman" plot armor outlook. But that these are just normal people who are raised as children thrown into a hopeless meatgrinder, where every victory is just a delay from the inevitable. That's whats badass to me, and sure WH40k has a sh*tton of good books, they just don't give you that sense of impending grinding doom but also the hope against all the odds. Even if it does mean the deaths of countless billions of people. And unlike WH40k that term "countless billions of people" has some weight to it. This isn't the gigantic Imperium of Man with tens of thousands of years of endless war and the industry to supply it, its only 500 years ahead of our own timeline. With only a few hundred planets between the Covenant and Earth.

[@shutdown117]

Halo you feel the loss in every book and game unlike 40k. 40k nothing really matters as it is all just setting not story. Until recently nothing changed to move the plot forward. In halo when someone dies or a colony is gone, you feel like it’s something humanity will never get back. No matter how small it truly hurts humanity.

[@KnightofLondor]

Halo really does have that depressive sense that humanity could actually lose. I actually found the Kilo Five trilogy enjoyable, if not for the lore issues. Reading about the reconstruction in Sydney in one of the books really hammers home how badly humanity has been affected by the war, even on Earth.

[@colinwhalen2632]

@@KnightofLondor I loved that scene, immediately attached me to mail and vas

[@legionnaire5947]

Lol I love the Kilo-5 trilogy, I don’t get why it receives so much hate

[@KnightofLondor]

@@legionnaire5947 Mostly it's due to lore retcons and the shift in focus in the last book afaik

[@KurstKensei]

One of my favorite pieces of lore about Covenant weapons was from the account of a marine. He had gotten 3 needles in his leg, and when they popped it almost broke his ankle and it felt like little splinters went up all over the left side of his foot. It pretty much took a medic over two hours to pull out all the needle shards.

[@raptorjesus5870]

In the game the plasma pistol is this dinky little pea shooter. In lore it is a weapon capable of melting through humanities best and strongest metal alloys

[@kalash9467]

Or the guy in Fall of reach who got his intestines out just because a needle went directly to his belly

[@raikasha8152]

@@raptorjesus5870 Well if you use the charge function frequently plasma pistols are actually pretty badass

[@jonathanathor117]

@@raptorjesus5870 plasma is at least 6000 degrees celcius. That's alot.

[@jonathanathor117]

@@raikasha8152 It does come in clutch.

[@Haloister]

On the note of the common held belief that the UNSC won the majority of grounds engagements is likely due to two things. One in the novel Fall of Reach Chief point blank says as much, and most folks are likely to treat him as a trustworthy source. Second the Elite Commander of the attack on Reach (I think his name is Thel'Vadamee but I can't remember his name 100%) straight up told the ruling Council of the Covenant that the loses were so horrific that they couldn't do another battle like the one at Reach or the Covenant would dissolve. Now both of these can have holes poked in them, but they do explain why the belief is very common, and debatably correct.

[@Fordmister]

Yup, Its The 'Vadamee, now known as Thel Vadam (the Elites dopped the "ee" suffix shortly after the great schism as it was a religious thing) or more commonly the Arbiter

[@Bernoris]

Hmm about the second one Did he specifically state it was ground losses or it's generally all the losses the Covenant took?

[@Haloister]

@@Bernoris In general, he didn't specify either ground or navy.

[@kman1893]

I mean they lost a supercarrier thats got to suck. But they had 500 more ships in first strike? So losses werent really that bad right?

[@Bernoris]

@@kman1893 Well according to Halopedia, the Covenant lost around 200 ships And usually a Covenant ship has at least a thousand of crew, troops and such So maybe that would hurt too

[@Raist474]

If you like stories where humans are legit underdogs who aren't shielded behind Imperial-grade plot armor, Watch the Babylon 5 TV series. The series really takes off in Season 2 and you will be addicted at that point and wondering why other Sci-Fi TV shows aren't as well written as B5 anymore.

[@TheAgent0060]

I loved Babylon 5! The Shadow-Vorlon War was lit!

[@thehermitman822]

I may have to give it another try. I remember it as a Space Soap Opera.

[@habibainunsyifaf6463]

I prefer stargate but Babylon V is fun too.

[@thehermitman822]

@@habibainunsyifaf6463 My fav ep is still when we learn Oneal had that rock all that time.

[@thehermitman822]

@@PodreyJenkin138 I've seen enough ppl recommend B5 that I'll have to give it a view.

[@saprogeist31]

Oh, right. 343 fumbled Halo Infinite so hard that I had all but forgotten, but Halo's lore is like the coolest shit ever.

[@Andrewbaysura1]

Infinite's story actually kinda sucked... and it doesn't look like it's going to get better with that legendary ending.

[@nagger8216]

It was cool until 343 ruined that too

[@mr.voidroy6869]

Was* the coolest shit ever

[@kn_halo]

@@mr.voidroy6869life is the coolest shit now

[@Redditor6079]

​@@Andrewbaysura1the story was hairy monkey balls. A five year old could've written a better story. The Banished design wise though were mint! The Elites, Brutes, Hunters, Sentinels and Grunts have never looked better. Also the addition of AI Banished combatants to the Forge and Firefight was a pretty significant step in the right direction.

[@bencurran3204]

ONI: why.....did you blow up the colony Grey Team: you said to ONI: understandable, here have a prowler and new armours

[@theknightstar8640]

I think that if any faction deserves to be called out for plot armour it has to be chaos. Literally has plot armour built into its lore ffs....

[@altechelghanforever9906]

This is why Chaos is boring.

[@tzeentchlordoffates9268]

@@altechelghanforever9906 it infuriates me

[@TyphoonMinecraft]

"Marathon class ship" God damnit Bungie! They can't keep getting away with this!

[@4realm8rusirius]

*SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED*

[@WildZeratul]

"Awww fuck" -Random UNSC Commander at the Battle of Reach

[@josephdoria5237]

*SLIPSPACE* *RUPTURE* *DETECTED*

[@jasonr.c.390]

*SLIPSPACE RUPTURE DETECTED*

[@RebelCannonClub74]

I’ll never forget playing as covenant in halo wars and casually using suicide grunts and glassing beams then playing exodus having to fight grunt suicide battalions and the falcon mission at night and seeing corvettes using their glassing beams and getting really nauseous and depressed even.

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

I believe the Falcon mission was the next one, called New Alexandria, but it was basically a continuation of Exodus

[@Nobody-zl3kk]

Also on the topic of awesome ship names, people may complain about how simplistic and almost generic the Infinity's name is, but I really like it, not in isolation but because of what it entails, it and its sister ship (The Eternity) were being designed in secret in the sol system as a counter measure, the UNSC had almost given up hope and the infinity was the result, they were hatching the plan of fucking off from the galaxy and needed something to do it with, that's why the Infinity is so stupidly big, its self reliance, its ability to set up an entire industrial complex within its confines, its capability to carry _up to ten heavy class frigates inside of the thing_ (yes you read that right). The Infinity and Eternity (ship that is still unfinished but could theoretically leave dock at any point), are a representation of something humanity was slowly loosing at the end of the war, _hope_ , hope that there was somewhere out there for us, hope that we could survive, that we could overcome this challenge, hope that humanity wouldn't be snuffed out, hope that we would live to see another day; that's why the Infinity sometimes seems so overpowered, so all encompasing, yes there are some narrative problems regarding 343 (of effing course) but I cannot help but love what essentially was humanity's ark.

[@CoercedJab]

Emphasis on WAS We never even get to see infinity in game ever again… it’s a cg movie from a completely separate company lol

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

Warhammer 40k humantiy; grim tide of endless bodies to try and hold back an even larger tide of several flavours of genocide. Halo humanity: turned around their own fall to break the largest threat to them, ultimately forging an alliance with the rebels in the resulting Covenant civil war.

[@jonathanoriley8260]

CHAD UNSC *_vs_* Virgin Imperium

[@EnigmaEnginseer]

@@jonathanoriley8260 UNSC then proceeds to get bodied by the Banished, the same Banished who got bodied by an outdated UNSC Phoenix class colony ship.

[@jonathanoriley8260]

@@EnigmaEnginseer That's why we don't talk about the trash 343 era material that messed up the lore. As far as I'm concerned, the story ended with HALO 3.

[@kalash9467]

@@jonathanoriley8260 but the kilo 5 trilogy?

[@jonathanoriley8260]

@@kalash9467 Mediocre.

[@potatostarch9363]

slight correction. 7:44. the master chief was by no means the most powerful of the spartans (depending on what your definition of power is), but he was definitely the most well known. in regards to raw strength, speed or ability, he didn't particularly excel at anything other than maybe leadership skill (to which, imo, you could argue kurt-051 is a better leader). he is, however, a very well rounded jack of all trades, or i guess you could say a JOHN OF ALL TRADES XDDD oh yeah i mean i guess he did have the best luck out of all the spartans (AND THIS IS A CANONICALLY TRUE)

[@VancePetrol]

He also had a dummy thicc, big tiddy A.I. GF in the back of his skull. A ride-or-die bad bitch that chose him, specifically, to carry her around. A pretty significant choice considering she was literally humanities last chance at making any significant impact at all in the Human-Covenant War, by that point.

[@mrbigglezworth42]

So long as you don't acknowledge the godawful Halo show, which the writers even admit is an alternate take on the series, Master Chiefs biggest boon is his luck. The ability to always be exactly where he needs to be, exactly when he needs to be there to affect change or survive the impossible. With how often it happened to him, you'd almost think it was fate.

[@sneedclavehere8918]

@@mrbigglezworth42 You could say it's his Destiny?

[@Cklert]

I mean yeah, Cortana basically says that there were other Spartans that were physically and intellectually more impressive than him in the 3rd game. He's lucky, he gets shit done. I will also say that John is only one of two Spartans that is given the hyper-lethal vector by ONI (The other one being Noble 6). So do with that as you may.

[@raptorjesus5870]

John is just the best leader. Fred is the strongest and kelly was the fastest. Linda has the best shot and what does John have... Hes the luckiest brick that ever flew.

[@mauz791]

The flood's lore is truly one of the most fascinating bits of fiction ever

[@vurrunna]

I sincerely hope you make more Halo lore videos-to be brutally honest, I think the setting and story are infinitely more interesting than anything 40k can come up with (no big surprise, given Halo was written as spiritual successor to Marathon, and 40k started as a satire of Margaret Thatcher). Obviously I'm still gonna watch anything you put out because I'm addicted to your dulcet voice, but the Halo videos feel like they have a lot more genuine passion behind them, which, as an autistic guy whose childhood was literally defined by my obsession with Halo, I very much appreciate.

[@dylanholven6375]

lets see him try to make a marathon video lmao, good luck with the timelines

[@artbandit8364]

40k started as a satire and that leads to a lot of the "grimderp" seen in some of it's writings, which clashes with people trying to write more serious and soulful stories in it. Halo is much more touching and I would love to play a well supported tabletop game for it. If done right it could be one of the few things that could compete with 40k in the tabletop hobby. (There's Halo Ground Command but the company making that seems to have went out of business a year after it's release.)

[@fumarc4501]

I like Halo lore. It’s why I hate ONI with a burning passion and I’m curious what Guilty Sparks will do next.

[@99Plastics]

Halo's lore is the equivalent of a toilet pamphlet lol

[@funniclockman614]

@@fumarc4501 ONI did nothing wrong.

[@MBSMythic]

One of the best pieces of Dark Halo Lore is In the books, detailing what ONI believes humanity was to do if Earth fell. It essentially boils down to hide and cross our fingers that one day we could escape the galaxy to a new planet for repopulation. For all intents and purposes ONI made the war seem “not as bad” on earth because they figured if they were going to die, might as well enjoy the time they had left. Though by the battle for earth, everyone knew it was go for broke

[@_Nohan_]

“Aliens are real and hate you.” That sentence reminds me of the Dark Forest theory, one of, if not the most terrifying answers to the Fermi Paradox.

[@july9566]

I don’t know what’s scarier , the fact that we might be alone or there’s aliens out there hostile towards us , both are equally scary .

[@Klodhvig]

@@july9566 how is the thought of us being alone in the universe scary? Also the idea of aliens that would be hostile to us existing shouldn't by itself be scary, it's just as likely that they'd be weaker than us than the other way around

[@Peusterokos1]

@@Klodhvig how innocent. Consider the fact that for our own kind the technological differences between the 1st World War and what is currently being used in today's American army, which is arguably the highest technologically provided armed force in the world. Now apply these changes across maybe several hundreds, if not thousands of years between species whenever if we're the least technologically developed or not, and remember that guns are a pretty big equalizer where it renders size and strength irrelevant; a gun will kill anything. Put these two together and even if you fight a hand-sized space squid, if space squid's kind are thousands of years ahead of us then whatever hypothetical power armor we have is rendered useless to its hypothetical anti-power armor raygun. In the Three Way Problem book series, humanity has had over 400 years to build a super mega fuck-you fleet that numbered in thousands per layers (there were 6 of them iirc) to prepare for the incoming alien invasion (including a near complete extinction event, with Earth briefly becoming a barren wasteland) only for it to be completely, utterly destroyed within minutes by a fucking teardrop-shaped probe/drone the size of a car. Another story where humanity absolutely gets curb stomped is All Tomorrows where a future, post-earth super/transhuman civilization colonized a major part of our galaxy encountered the Qu, which durinh the time of the dinosaurs they had already mastered space travel as a fucking dinosaur was discovered on another planet by these transhumans in the context of being several thousands of years from now at that point in the story. Humanity was so humiliatingly defeated in just a couple hundred years (remember: galaxy spanning human empire) that we were turned into genetic experiments at the Qu's fun and will for 10 million years. Technology absolutely has to do with everything, and if we're in the lead; we're the invaders. If we aren't, we're just as good as dinosaur bones.

[@Klodhvig]

@@Peusterokos1 key word being "if" space squids are thousands of years ahead of us. This is unlikely as humanity is divinely chosen to dominate the stars, thus aliens would likely be technologically and genetically inferior to us. To believe anything else is to have a cucked mindset. If there were aliens more advanced than us, not including the devine, we would've been wiped out already.

[@ryanbrown4053]

@@Peusterokos1 he never said humanity would automatically be stronger, he just said it's 50/50 that we would be. Which is true. There's not a shred of any kind of logic that proves or implies or suggests in any way that humanity would always be the underdog in any given engagement. There's no reason to assume that at all.

[@superjesse645]

Quick note about the Lesser Ark: The Halo Encylopedia states that there's actually a planet in the middle of the structure that is used to harvest materials to build new Halos.

[@Bilskirnir3124]

IIRC it can also automatically grab another planet when it needs more materials.

[@zombieoverlord5173]

You can see it quite vividly in Halo 3

[@superk9letsplays419]

​@Zombie Overlord is that what that red thing was in the warthog run?

[@CoercedJab]

I stopped giving 343 money by the time that came out 🤷‍♀️

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

Damn, this is great! I actually wrote a short novel based on my Halo OC, whos basically the unluckiliest marine who's still somehow alive. His first action was the Fall of Reach, and after barely escaping to Earth he once again survives his way through New Mombasa, the Crows Nest, the assault on Voi, the Flood invasion of Voi, and then after having to shoot his infected best friend he volunteers to go with the mission to the Ark because fuck it, why not at this point? Anyways, he once again barely survives that(including getting slapped around by a Brute chieftain before sticking him with an energy sword), and gets picked up at the last second before the flood eat his near-mortally wounded ass and so he survives the war. But we're not done yet, because that's not where the games end and I'm writing a sequel! After the war he joins a bunch of rehabilitation pioneers who go back to Reach to begin the work of rebuilding his homeworld from the fields of super-fused glass it now is, and for a few years everything is looking good... and then the Banished show up so he has to go back to fighting aliens, and at the final climactic battle he once again gets near-mortally wounded, but luckily the UNSC Infinity just popped in during its year-long game of hide and seek with evil Cortana to pick up some old hardware and help out the colonists on the way, and he gets medevaced up to the ship... right before its forced to leave because Cortana shows up. Then a few months later Halo: Infinite happens, the Infinity is destroyed, the survivors scatter across Zeta halo, including our by-now humorously fatalistic marine, who also has partial amnesia from his wounds now, and currently he is wandering around Zeta halo, doing his best to survive and eventually make it back to Reach, while I wait for the next campaign DLC for more lore to work with.

[@habibainunsyifaf6463]

Link please?

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

@@habibainunsyifaf6463 sorry don't have one, its just a Google doc on my computer rn

[@mannamoth918]

@@kostakatsoulis2922 link to the doc plz

[@comradekenobi6908]

@@kostakatsoulis2922 Hero of the UNSC

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

@@comradekenobi6908 eh, he's just doing his bit. A very large bit, sure, but there were a whole a lot of people from Reach who needed revenging, and not a whole lot of remaining people from Reach to do it

[@Phoros]

If you think the UNSC Say My Name is cool, there was also a UNSC Two For Flinching, and one of my other favorites is the UNSC Texas which appeared for all of three seconds in a Halo Wars cinematic before being destroyed, BRING IT BACK

[@graboidgang9077]

If you like these ship names you should read Ian M Banks' culture novels, those books kickstarted this whole naming trend. They are some of the greatest works of sci-fi ever written. Some good examples of ship names from the series include: GSV No More Mr Nice Guy LSV Profit Margin GSV Youthful Indiscretion GCU Of Course I Still Love You GSV What Are the Civilian Applications?

[@whatinthek7931]

⁠my favourite halo ship name has to be the UNSC ready or not. So many good names tho.

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

I fucking love the Human-Covenant war: At the beginning, humanity is a thriving civilization, sure it has its problems but overall things are going well, with a strong, high-tech and well-motivated military, capable and confident enough to stand up to the Covenant and fight them in a pitched war of attack and counterattack across the entire front. After 30-odd years in a grinding war of utter and complete slaughter and annihilation, the likes of which I don't think they, by that point, had seen in centuries, and humanity was on the brink of extinction, essentially hiding out in their last few refuges, waiting for the Covenant to find and obliterate them, too. And yet, even at this pitch-black darkest of hours, through little more than sheer determination and grit, they collectively somehow managed to pull out a win. Granted they were much diminished and utterly traumatized as a species, and also Master Chief, the Elites, and the power of plot- i mean luck may have had something to do with it, but they were still there and still standing strong together nonetheless. Oorah, and fucking remember Reach.

[@maestreiluminati87]

The scariest part of the flood is how back in the Flood/Forerunner war, they apparently pulled a "Have you seen this sign" from the King in Yellow and infected people through concepts and shit.

[@CoercedJab]

Uh wouldn’t the airborne spores be to blame for this

[@maestreiluminati87]

@@CoercedJab I couldnt give you the exact paragraph off the top of my head but as far as I remember it was stated to be an infection of the mind like the logic plague, no mutation or highjacking of the body but rather the mind.

[@hartianx1698]

@@maestreiluminati87 The didact was one he pulled it on, through simple conversation nearly broke his mind.

[@jackr2287]

Like a memetic SCP? That'd be tricky to defeat and guard against.

[@marranin007]

​@@jackr2287 It's not really like a memetic SCP. If the flood can't infect you they literally just convince you to join their side using words.

[@runningoutofnames3CS]

Shame how you didn’t mention that the first time the Master Chief encountered the flood (the library mission in CE) he was actually trembling in fear the whole time *AND* that he was almost infected but Cortana came in clutch at the last second saving him

[@rickyrain7773]

Wait what? Where did you hear that?

[@catman5136]

​@@rickyrain7773the novel Halo: The Flood

[@MarvinT0606]

He came a loooong way after that, going as far as telling the Arbiter to chill the f out when confronted with the *Gravemind*

[@varlak9061]

​@@MarvinT0606I'm pretty sure he was obviously still scared shitting himself but obviously knew to just listen to the Giant Venus flytrap flesh monster That's literally holding them

[@Redditor6079]

​@@MarvinT0606nah he's a pussy in a big green space diaper

[@aylamaiia]

The best part of that "They outnumber us 3 for 1!" "Then it is an even fight." He considers Brutes in Covenant Ships to be as bad as Humans in just subpar Human Vessels. Cold.

[@haikuheroism6495]

19:28 I hate to umm actually you, but this is my favorite piece of halo lore. Another one of those marines survived long enough to be found by Guilty Spark, who took him through the library before Chief. He died though, and you can find his corpse in the game, it's got a shotgun and a medkit sitting next to it. He also appears in one of the books, I think it's just called Halo: The Flood. Anyway, my absolute favorite bit of halo lore.

[@Arkancide]

I love the Halo lore of the Human Vs. Covenant War. It is good that you did a video on it. I commonly watch Installation 00 just for that form of content. And the Armory of course.

[@prompthorizon_12]

Yall remember that time when a random engineer couldn't contain its fixing addiction and proceeded to activate an experimental unsc bomb. Which set a planets atmosphere on fire shattered its moon and atomized most of the elite separatist leadership . Probably one of my favorite moments from the books .

[@wote2760]

Man, I really wish for a grimdark horror show based in Halo with emphasis on the actual struggle for survival and desperation fighting or rather, surviving the Covenant

[@nutyyyy]

That's one thing that I find it sometimes missing in more recent Halo lore.

[@eric97909]

I would love this too

[@Redditor6079]

Nah that'll never happen, too many Spartan fanboys that refuse to accept that the Covenant are superior to the UNSC, rubbing one out to the idea of Spartans endlessly curb stomping Covenant forces even though the Spartans themselves were reduced to a mere handful by the time we saw the events of Halo 3. Oh shit another Spartan 2? Here's 30 more Chieftains and we'll glass the planet if they fail.

[@Redditor6079]

​@@nutyyyycause the more recent lore (Halo 4 and 5) caters to the Spartan fanboys. Atriox curb stomping Chief was a breath of fresh air

[@spartanx9293]

17:25 yeah things were bad the infinity was originally built for the purpose of pulling a Battlestar Galactica and peacing out of this corner of the Galaxy

[@mikhailkutuzov8051]

I should be on humanitys side but....Damn the covenant were so cool...

[@dovahfett5919]

I got the Halo Fleet Battles tabletop game and there's definitely a reason why I painted the covenant ships first

[@nerveaxel8164]

It's like the empire in star wars, yeah most of them are peices of shit, but look how awesome they are

[@Berserker3624]

Traitor

[@feeler6670]

The bad guys always get the cool drip 😞

[@Troupe_Master]

Why should you be on Humanity's side? just because your a Human ? such a fragile connection since we kill each other over simple things

[@hateraccoon5686]

The Covenant ship that started the chain of events that would lead to the whole war was a vessel named "Minor Transgression". Funny.

[@apotato3801]

0/10 Didn't mention the most powerful thing in the Halo universe Chips Dubbo.

[@Lechuga1815]

15:22, The covenant found Reach because they put a tracker on the UNSC Iroquois after the battle of Sigma Octanus IV. Fun Fact: the Iroquois was captained by our good friend Captain Keyes at this time.

[@brydonwood6000]

“It wasn’t just pirates, it was alien pirates” had me on the floor 😂

[@drysocks4412]

More halo lore will always be apricated!

[@Reklawssyba]

Shadow of intent will forever live rent free in my head as one of the best names of a Ship ever, of all time. (Although All under Heaven and Midsummer Night are pretty baller as well)

[@Fordmister]

My personal favourites will always be ships like the UNSC Two for Flinching, Do you feel lucky or the Glasgow kiss. The idea that while one half of the UNSC admiralty/commissioning office is basically writing poems to name ships and looking up famous Earth events/places/people there's the other office just having way to much fun with the names for different vessels!

[@preachymink9468]

Long Ship names are some of my favorites. Long Night of Solace, Pillar of Autumn, and The Forward Unto Dawn gotta be some of my favorite ship names ever.

[@kalash9467]

Its even more cooler when the names of the ships, and I say almost everyone in the halo universe is plot related to the events of the respective stories

[@oppressormk2op547]

Tennessean boatman and ten thousand hammers are some favorites of mine

[@AuburnTigers111]

Heart of Midlothian just hits different.

[@kalashnikovdevil]

Elites are awesome. I'm glad they became humanity's friends in the Halo franchise.

[@nutyyyy]

Friends... lol

[@chiefkeef74]

Its...complicated. i mean the ones that swore fealty to Thel Vadam (our Arby) are indispensable allies and skilled warriors. Its the other more fanatic ones that were stirring up shit.

[@redaug4212]

Halo Fans: "I'm glad the elites became Humanity's friends" Halo 4: *Elites try to wipe out Humanity again* Halo 5: *Elites wage a civil war over whether to wipe out Humanity or not* Halo Infinite: *Joins forces with the brutes to wipe out Humanity* With friends like the elites, who needs enemies? amirite?

[@Shmandalf]

Its pretty tenuous at best. Like the Horde and Alliance of Warcraft, they'll work together if it serves their goals/if they must, but they're right back at each other's throats at every opportunity.

[@Angry_Peanut_52]

'Friend' is a bit tenuous at best. Not every Sangheili agrees with Thel 'Vadam and the Swords of Sangheilos, and ONI is actively trying to sabotage the Elites

[@kris220b]

i wish we got more stories of naval battles the few that we got, are so creatively laid out

[@roverman540]

I love you. Just know this. I rewatch these for context in life and I am never disappointed. I may be mostly (just)happy to hear someone present these topics with dignity; so you can say I'm a nerdy goober... yet it is oft lost that being able to put together a coherent and constant train of thought is a skill, so it balances out. My commendation stands, and your videos remain awesome!

[@TeenageMutantZuckerTurtle]

The Covenant’s victories toward the end of the war were a lot more pyrrhic than they let on. The ground game on Humanity’s more populated worlds was shredding their numbers. The Arbiter (still a fleetmaster) told the Great Council as much, saying that Reach was a meat grinder and that if another battle that size happened too soon the Covenant might dissolve. They found Earth by accident, too early to have recovered from Reach. While they were still licking their wounds they accidentally stumbled onto the UNSC’s home world where humanity had pooled its last resources to fight like cornered rats. Couple that with the fact that they were afraid to glass parts of Earth before they knew they wouldn’t damage any Forerunner holy sites, and the Covenant was basically forced to engage in a long ground war slog that luckily happened to buy humanity enough time for the Elites to switch sides and lessen the Covenant fleet’s air superiority.

[@TheLastSterling1304]

In the original canon the Forerunners were Humans.

[@tt-thats-me]

I wish you’d gotten more views for this. Halo is a different flavor of grim dark and it’s got some really great lore.

[@CoercedJab]

Over a quarter million views?

[@V1ruzs]

3:30 skip advertisement

[@T0YCHEST]

23:15 the forerunners have more sentinels variations than just the enforcers, agressors and constructors we see in the games. They have some designed for retrieving and assembling and much much more.

[@KillerOrca]

In which the 40k fandom gets informed that, no, 40k is not the only lore-drenched space combat supersoldier focused grimdark HFY series out there. One just happens to focus on video games and the other more on table top stuff.

[@ireallycant4416]

We're aware. You're just putting a label on us. Which in turn a copium for your biased shinanigans.

[@fumarc4501]

Dune

[@novato7838]

is warhammer HFY? It always gave me heavily anti-human vibes

[@KillerOrca]

@@novato7838 Depends on if your an Imperium fan or not IMO

[@Cklert]

@@novato7838 Warhammer is anti-everything.

[@kalash9467]

Another cool name in unsc ships are the UNSC Spirit of fire, which designated class is a Phoenix-Support colony ship, that was intented because the ship could use their fabrics and his own layers and structure to do the first colonies in outer planets, and in times of need, the Spirit of Fire was actived once more so they could save humanity, and also got back decades later to once more save the day in the Arc, like a phoenix getting out of its ashes to be a beacon of hope once more

[@samlund8543]

9:47 That’s because Fall of Reach basically says as much in its prologue, though I imagine subsequent material might poke some holes in that belief

[@jonathanoriley8260]

To be fair, by the time of the Fall of Reach, Humanity's ground tech and weaponry had fairly adapted to fighting the Covenant (example: the 7.62x51 NATO becoming the standard round of "intermediate" rifles). At the beginning, however, the weapons and tech of UNSC ground forces were, for obvious reasons, designed around fighting coventional and unconventional Insurrectionist (Human) forces and as such were not well attuned for the Covenant. It makes sense that the UNSC had progressed and found at least some ways to better level the playing field within the span of a quarter century long war.

[@samlund8543]

@@jonathanoriley8260 Human tech didn’t even change that much through the war, though? The UNSC is still using most of the same small arms, vehicles, and starships they were during the insurrection - the MA5 assault rifle, the M6 Magnum, the SRS99 Sniper Rifle, the M41 SPNKR Rocket Launcher, and so on. They were already using most of the equipment they had at the end of the war when the war started. There’s a few advancements, of course, but mostly in regards to stealing stuff from the Covenant like Energy Shields and Active Camo, and was never in wide use in the UNSC due to its complexity, and so rarely changed the tide of battle. Also I should clarify the prologue of Fall of Reach is in 2535, just a decade after the war starts, so if the belief that ground battles are at least an even fight is already present by then, surely it could be said to be the standard state of affairs through the whole war?

[@CT-Kix-lh5mu]

25:38 **UNSC Two for Flinching has entered the chat**

[@bigfoot984]

lol that’s a good one

[@wroughtiron6031]

7:45 Side note, Master chief wasn't the most powerful, fastest, or strongest of the Spartans, but he was stated to be the luckiest and the bravest.

[@nathanieljohnson5430]

Honestly, you can call it plot armor but I totally get what Cortana meant by luck when I thought about it. An example of this is the end of Halo 1 and the fact there was an intact longsword on the pillar of autumn to get him off planet before it exploded. That ship didn't have to be functioning, or the idea that the path to it could've just been blocked by rubble from the slowly falling apart ship. Alternatively, an example of an unlucky Spartan 2 is Jorge. The fact that they couldn't get to their ships because the opening was blocked off, the fact that the timer got fried by plasma fire, the fact that the pelicans thruster was taken off line during the fighting, all lead to him being dead to rights in 3 different ways.

[@hedonistic_one]

how, him and noble 6 were the only ultra lethal Spartans

[@Angry_Peanut_52]

​@@hedonistic_one*Hyper-Lethal

[@ForgottenHonor0]

"Say My Name." Is there also a ship called, "You're Goddamn Right?"

[@zigzaghyena]

I know all of this, I’ve known it for years. But it’s so much fun to listen to someone who is having so much fun talking about it.

[@davebowman9000]

Love the comedy you bring to the lore explanation. As a long-time Halo fan, I can't imagine how hard it must've been to keep yourself from nerding over all the details you thought were cool. Thank you for your hard work and dedication!

[@matthewcayson4627]

Halo also had the better Dante. Dante was a Spartan-III in Ghosts of Onyx who, when engaging with the covenant and covering a retreat, fell back with the other survivors. As he began to slow down more and more, Kurt went to check on him to which Dante replied, "I think I got knicked, sir." and promptly died. Turns out, at some point during the engagement, he got super combined by a Needles and half his chest ripped open and didn't know it until the adrenaline boosters he'd been given during the augmentation process finally wore off and he went immediately into shock. Rad Lad

[@KillerOrca]

“Sir, I think I got nicked”. Salutes and keels over dead on the spot. Hard core

[@megamente7849]

"yea inquisition this one rigth here"

[@TheBenjiNebby]

​@@megamente7849you have no power here

[@wloss600]

You should do a video on how well the sentients from Warframe might do in 40k

[@Asfragged]

@@skeletoninatuxedo7147 Sentient is the name of the faction. They were terraforming AI sent from our system to another habitable one, then while passing through the discount Warp (The Void) they were sterilized unknowingly and gained Sentience, hence the name.

[@Kurai_69420]

I don't think we have enough info for that, we haven't seen the Tau system yet.

[@yasquishyboi902]

hehe, a fellow tenno i see

[@altechelghanforever9906]

Tennos! Represent!

[@wloss600]

@@Kurai_69420 I mean we have seen their military feats such as:making pragasa,being nigh invincible to energy weapons, conquering a system with a single fleet,HUNHOW AND ERRA,and manipulation through mimics

[@ShadowcZ-pu9gl]

Truth , Mercy and Regret. God I love Bungie’s ironic sense of humor. Regret , jumped the gun , tried to invade earth and failed , was killed by the Master Chief on the halo ring , and was taken as a part of the grave mind. Mercy , would be shown no Mercy by Truth and the brutes, he would be allowed to be eaten alive by the flood. Truth , is the one who decided to lie about their religion being fake and order the extermination of humanity , from the day he made it to the high council all he ever did was tell lies.

[@fcomolineiro7596]

Pancreasdoeswork: I can make my own insulin

[@damienmcneff7715]

Lucky...

[@Testicool96]

Just got diagnosed with type 1 a month ago coincidentally lmfao. Otherwise the joke would've flown over my head

[@PBRatLord]

I love the way Forward Unto Dawn made the Covenant actually terrifying unlike the show that came later...

[@spiderriszer7856]

15:55 “A pretty goddamn appreciable fraction of the speed of light” one of my favorite lines spoken ever.

[@ABadRash]

The war crime to end all war crimes reminds me of the war of 1812 in which one of the very few American victories took place after the signing of peace between America and Britain, you had to send messages by horse back then and an American army had marched south, out of contact with authorities there was no way for them to know the fight wasn't necessary. It was also the largest and bloodiest battle of the war if I remember correctly.

[@kostakatsoulis2922]

I wouldn't say "one of very few victories", but yeah. It also does tend to make Americans feel like we "won" the war, which we did not

[@UnholyWrath3277]

You mean the battle of new orleans. It wasnt that bloody by modern terms with the americans taking few losses at all but the british taking quite significant losses due to attacking fortified positions. This battle almost single handedly propelled andrew jackson to the presidency

[@Lucky-sh1dm]

@@UnholyWrath3277it also led to Jackson’s first presidential attempt getting by outright stolen from him by a member of the electoral college… So during the battle apparently Jackson has slighted and insulted a regiment from Kentucky and a man in that regiment who went on to become a member of the electoral college saw Jackson getting all the votes and just said “nah fuck this dude” and completely swung the election against him Lmfao

[@tyrian_baal]

The Believe AD of Halo 3 really showed us that absolutely hopelessness humanity faced

[@themagicalrobotprisma2793]

Despite humanity being on the brink of extinction, there was one thing the covenant didn’t account for. The indomitable human spirit.

[@zombieoverlord5173]

Or inner strife within their own faction tearing it apart

[@themagicalrobotprisma2793]

@@zombieoverlord5173 multiple things can be true at once

[@duybg7698]

For the glory of mankind!!! Humanity fu©k yeah!!!

[@Монс-й1ь]

And plot armor

[@CoercedJab]

Seems pretty domitable to me. Y’all forget the trauma based mind control of 9//? Or 3/11/2020?? Seems real domitable if you manufacture a good scare. A good scam. Two weeks to slow the indomitable lmao

[@edinbruh7224]

I genuinely love your Halo stuff, keep it up my dude, looking forward to the flood vid.

[@jameson1239]

0:11 the tyrannids would like a word

[@shooth100]

Forerunners would be able to destroy most 40k beings. Also can't be corrupted .. they're OP.

[@doomstuck1241]

In 23:12 you can see where the Ark gets its resources on the final level of halo when you look up at the Ark, you can see a planet thats been stripped mined so much that various layers of the planet are showing.

[@zenoohshit5498]

Halo has such an in depth lore and a rich universe that is hardly ever touched on besides a few dedicated Halo Lore channels It’s refreshing to see it getting some exposure from someone not necessarily dedicated to Halo content

[@TheBiggestMoneyBoy]

Yes and no, I found once you step outside the military aspect of halo it's lore becomes increadbly shallow

[@abdoul5176]

@B 4 doubtful, it's a Bungie ip and you can never fault the writing in their games.

[@TheBiggestMoneyBoy]

@@abdoul5176 it's true the halo universe is increadbly centered on military conflicts. If we just go by what's in the games then the writing really drops in quality John 117 becomes a increadbly boring one liner character without the books.

[@CoercedJab]

It’s as if 343 swooped in and completely messed it up lmao Notice how this refreshing content you’re so hyped to consoom is basically the OG bungie trilogy. OG bungie era books. Etc

[@CoercedJab]

@@TheBiggestMoneyBoy i mean the books sold because of that master chef guy so it seems like “the lore” was hype enough even without books… so much so it sold future books (to this day) So it seems people felt more than just some one liner guy when it came to the chief. They felt so much people still buy books about him in 2023

[@mikd157]

Don’t forget that bum rush is also the name of an Oni prowler

[@CBleys]

Stumbled across this vid as a lifelong Halo fan with a passing interest in 40k, great video, subbed.

[@vx8431]

I love Halos lore but it also holds a bit of a sour feelings for me to because it could have been so much more if Bungie would been allowed to go through with their original plan of having Halo set in their Marathon universe. It's still heavily referenced in Halo.

[@charles-vi7qb]

I don’t think they ever intended for the universes to be connected, just referenced