The Ideal Protein Intake For Nattys Vs. Steroid Users

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@JeffNixonComedy
@JeffNixonComedy Ай бұрын
Perfect timing, was just about to eat either 240g of protein worth of hotdogs or 1 single egg.
@TRAPSQUAD187
@TRAPSQUAD187 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 I literally ate a pack of hotdogs and beans yesterday 😂😂
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps Ай бұрын
@@TRAPSQUAD187 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿
@DasGoodSoup
@DasGoodSoup Ай бұрын
@@TRAPSQUAD187sometimes you gotta do what it is bro... get a quality multivitamin
@DasGoodSoup
@DasGoodSoup Ай бұрын
@@TRAPSQUAD187deadass
@microchrist6122
@microchrist6122 Ай бұрын
Dang, That was close!
@Paulie8K
@Paulie8K Ай бұрын
Dave Ramsey is super versatile. From financial to fitness advice. What a legend!
@calvin8181
@calvin8181 Ай бұрын
Hahaha they do look similar
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps Ай бұрын
That’s Gordon Ramsay’s more swole father
@5milemacc737
@5milemacc737 Ай бұрын
Dave Ramsey is a complete clown with terrible financial advice
@geronimothompson3999
@geronimothompson3999 Ай бұрын
Who would you recommend?​@@5milemacc737
@Dean-b8e
@Dean-b8e Ай бұрын
lol😂
@calebshargel7582
@calebshargel7582 Ай бұрын
still need the 8 hour breakdown of gorilla mode lightning
@HourRomanticist
@HourRomanticist Ай бұрын
Id unironically listen during the car ride to the gym, during my workout, on the way home, and repeating 4 times till I finish it lol
@calebshargel7582
@calebshargel7582 Ай бұрын
@@HourRomanticist yeah fr Id watch a good chunk of it fo sho
@EVO-re3bd
@EVO-re3bd Ай бұрын
Respawn breakdown coming first
@solo1014
@solo1014 Ай бұрын
Hmm...i thought it would be 12 hour breakdown...
@Psilocin-City
@Psilocin-City 21 күн бұрын
It’s the same but with more l tyrosine, n d, and alpha yohimbe for energy not much to say
@Ryan-ic1wj
@Ryan-ic1wj Ай бұрын
I make sure to eat 8-9 pounds of Greek yogurt per day and I’ve been well above my protein requirements
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps Ай бұрын
I love Turkish yoghurt, slightly more sour, very fluffy, high in protein
@aaron_d_henderson1984
@aaron_d_henderson1984 Ай бұрын
lol @ "pounds"
@brotherlittlefoot2216
@brotherlittlefoot2216 Ай бұрын
And your lactose tolerance,lol.
@Xandoscritters
@Xandoscritters 3 күн бұрын
The Greek yogurts is a big one for me too!!! The ratio and zero are my go to!
@paaaatrika
@paaaatrika Ай бұрын
He keeps switching between lbs and kgs...
@MF_UNDERTOW
@MF_UNDERTOW Ай бұрын
This is an interesting topic to me as a skinny fella. Years ago when I first started lifting my goal was to bulk as much as possible. After my first 4-6 months of initial growth, focusing primarily on protein and carb goals, I began to plateau. I realized after some calculations that I was hitting macro nutrient numbers but my calories were lower than ideal. I then began to focus on calories almost entirely, eating good foods but mixing in “iifym” foods like muffins, ice cream, fast food etc. I broke my plateau immediately and gained another 15-20 lbs and continued to get stronger. I found that while doing so, I was coming very close to or close enough to getting my macro numbers anyway. Im no longer chasing the goal of bigness but whenever I get a chance to help an ectomorph with tips on getting big and gaining weight, I tell them to focus on high calorie whole foods mixed with high calorie yummy foods and hit those calorie numbers if they want to bulk. The macros will fall into place.
@sandman62100
@sandman62100 Ай бұрын
I just do 412 grams to be safe
@KEPSAGAMER
@KEPSAGAMER Ай бұрын
of protein or...... "other stuff"
@Jimminityjabooboo
@Jimminityjabooboo Ай бұрын
@@KEPSAGAMERof Halo
@user-qd5lo6oi8n
@user-qd5lo6oi8n Ай бұрын
The more protein you eat, the higher the cancer risk. Just so you know. It also ages you faster.
@craigjohnson9605
@craigjohnson9605 Ай бұрын
@@user-qd5lo6oi8nlies. Stop it.
@freddiecraven
@freddiecraven Ай бұрын
@@user-qd5lo6oi8n not entirely true, sad attempt of scaring people off of protien
@dinguskhan9969
@dinguskhan9969 Ай бұрын
I could be wrong, but I think most people don’t realize it’s 1g per lb of LEAN body mass. Get a scan to see how much you actually need. But in general i imagine anyone going by regular weight is getting more than enough protein in regard to the formula.
@Harpreet06
@Harpreet06 Ай бұрын
I got an inbody scan at my gym but not sure which one is my LEAN body mass, is it the Skeletal Muscle Mass? Or is it my weight minus the body fat mass?
@bradensharp7076
@bradensharp7076 Ай бұрын
@@Harpreet06 those arent accurate anyway
@michelrood2966
@michelrood2966 Ай бұрын
A scan? Ever heard of a smart scale ?
@dinguskhan9969
@dinguskhan9969 Ай бұрын
@@Harpreet06 yes i think so. It should be lower than your weight. You would use that number instead of your actual weight in the formula. So it would be 1gr x skeletal muscle mass. It wont be completely accurate, but it’ll be closer to the correct figure than calculating with just your weight
@luxeayt6694
@luxeayt6694 Ай бұрын
​@michelrood2966 smart scales are nortoriously bad
@pacmanrespector9552
@pacmanrespector9552 Ай бұрын
Mfers be so worried about being first they forget about being the best
@user-ii7xc1ry3x
@user-ii7xc1ry3x Ай бұрын
Put that in a rap song, that's fire
@abels6985
@abels6985 Ай бұрын
Best
@jtt5623
@jtt5623 Ай бұрын
Some mfers always trying to ice skate uphill
@joerogaine7984
@joerogaine7984 Ай бұрын
Some niggas be so focused on da cheese that they forget about da trap
@MuscularMontel
@MuscularMontel Ай бұрын
This is the best comment
@constipateddevon
@constipateddevon Ай бұрын
Derek’s favorite word here 1:50
@vojtechpavlicek9658
@vojtechpavlicek9658 Ай бұрын
I knew what is coming
@agontop1
@agontop1 27 күн бұрын
😂😂
@AlexLewis-l2z
@AlexLewis-l2z Ай бұрын
Just eat a well balanced diet. Train intensely. Enjoy life. Everything is overcomplicated. If you take tons of gear and want to conpete then thats different.
@oscarriley9265
@oscarriley9265 Ай бұрын
Damn that's a valid take
@krispybacon5038
@krispybacon5038 Ай бұрын
Overcomplicated means content and selling supplements. That's more important than the truth to these guys.
@serban2139
@serban2139 Ай бұрын
Complicated sells
@luffebassen
@luffebassen Ай бұрын
There is no longer such a thing as "well balanced diet" in a world where 90% of things you are offered to eat is heavily processed and by definition not very healthy and dont have the nutrition profile you need per calorie.
@AlexLewis-l2z
@AlexLewis-l2z Ай бұрын
@krispybacon5038 truth brother
@Canes-kh5bq
@Canes-kh5bq Ай бұрын
Ok 1.2 1.3 grams per lb is a way way big difference than .8. -1.2 grams per k ?
@officialmoeee7688
@officialmoeee7688 Күн бұрын
2.2lbs = 1kg
@JusticiarXP
@JusticiarXP Ай бұрын
This dude uses grams per kilogram in the beginning of the video then grams per pound at the end. There’s a big difference and probably why there’s a bit of confusion.
@ertert4tetert
@ertert4tetert Ай бұрын
It's not that hard to convert my dude
@technodean6793
@technodean6793 Ай бұрын
Grams per kg is what anybody should be eating for general health and nutrition. Grams per pounds is what lifters should eat to gain and maintain muscle. That’s the difference. Are you lifting? Yes eat 1g per pound. No eat 1g per kg minimum
@justinabraham7291
@justinabraham7291 Ай бұрын
Exactly. It's Confusing
@74747Kyle
@74747Kyle Ай бұрын
i believe Stan did that intentionally to make 2 different points, but i could be wrong.
@RustyIsScared
@RustyIsScared Ай бұрын
@@technodean6793dont correct people and talk like what you say is factual if you have no clue. Theres tons of research to prove youre wrong, and your argument in itself is so bra1nded. Why would you use kg for general but pound for lifters? Stick to the same metrics but change the stats lol. 1.3-1.6 is proven hundreds of times to be the sweetspot and thats in KG. Theres zero evidence to show going higher provides more lbm.
@BodyweightBeastFitness
@BodyweightBeastFitness Ай бұрын
I'm 38 years old and I just started taking working out seriously and I made my channel to hold myself accountable. I started off at 155lbs I'm currently 167 and my goal is 180-200 lbs. I stand at 6'1. Any encouragement, support and help would be greatly appreciated. I love your channel. And appreciate the extra advice.
@KingRobbStark
@KingRobbStark Ай бұрын
You got this. I think 190-195 is ideal for our height.
@BodyweightBeastFitness
@BodyweightBeastFitness Ай бұрын
@@KingRobbStark thanks for the motivation and confirmation! It's needed. I'm pushing a little harder every day. I'm only a month and a half in and I can start to see and feel the change.
@JackCarsonite
@JackCarsonite Ай бұрын
Look at MMA fighters cut weight and walk around weight. At 6'1, you're pretty lean at 167. Gotta eat if you want to put on mass though.
@BodyweightBeastFitness
@BodyweightBeastFitness Ай бұрын
@@JackCarsonite I definitely am. I was 155 lbs . My fitness pal app is really helping me track my progress. And I know I'm putting on muscle and losing fat because my tummy was bigger and it's slowly going down but the scale is still going up. I really appreciate the extra tips and motivation tho it means a lot to me!
@timtrainage
@timtrainage Ай бұрын
I'm the same height and a couple years older, 205 will be too heavy without PEDs If you're planning on staying natural and want visible (NOT CHISELED) abdominals, aim for 180
@mrawesome2742
@mrawesome2742 Ай бұрын
Dammit. I need to do better. I work so hard at the gym, but I don’t eat enough. I constantly remind myself to drink more protein and I look up and it’s 4 o’clock and I’ve had two shakes all day. Thanks for reminding me to do better. 😊
@nathanielhampton2559
@nathanielhampton2559 Ай бұрын
Finally. You guys actually said X grams per Kilogram and not per pound. I was going to say .8g minimum actually sounds much more realistic. There’s always some guys that don’t believe me that I only eat 110-160g of protein @ 97kg. (Can’t have much with kidney damage)
@theproteinconsumer
@theproteinconsumer Ай бұрын
Ive been eating 0.8g of protein per pound of bodyweight. Its been working great this last year
@Smc-gm2nx
@Smc-gm2nx Ай бұрын
I'm so jealous whenever I hear people say they struggle to eat enough. I'm 105kg and to get in 4k kcal of clean food a day is absolutely easy to the point I'm starving through parts of the day. I eat a huge amount of chicken, protien, protien yoghourts a day too and still starving. Semaglutide didn't even lower my appetite, what's wrong with me 😂 wish I could get away with like 6k kcal a day like some of the ifbb pros do
@AlexLewis-l2z
@AlexLewis-l2z Ай бұрын
Fuk the protein yogurts off. Trash. Eat teal food. Healthier.
@C0d0ps
@C0d0ps Ай бұрын
I’m 5’8 and just eating 2500 calorie of clean food is a lot for me. Chicken is 150-300 calories depending on size, I prefer chicken breast. Rice and potatoes everyday with a side of vegetables, usually broccoli or kale. When I make autumn 🍂 stews I like chuck, carrots, potatoes, pepper, beef stock, we call it kalops in Sweden 🇸🇪
@carnivore-muscle
@carnivore-muscle Ай бұрын
Try the carnivore diet
@alisadath
@alisadath Ай бұрын
Because you are 105kg compared to a guy who would be 75kg, your body requires more calories.
@carnivore-muscle
@carnivore-muscle Ай бұрын
@@alisadath you can't eat calories, they're a measurement of heat energy from a closed thermodynamic system. What you actually mean, is more food. Use the correct words here, FOOD 😁🙏🏼💪🏼
Ай бұрын
The blood pressure in his head could crush a diamond. Please… tell us again how the “Yogurt & OJ smoothie is a game changer” for Gordon Ryan- while we laugh ourselves sick.
@ATFstein
@ATFstein Ай бұрын
What’s funny is that during his entire contest prep his blood pressure was perfect. He talked about this on another podcast. Being red doesn’t mean you have high blood pressure.
@scorchpowdispenser
@scorchpowdispenser Ай бұрын
Lmfao based
@stx7389
@stx7389 Ай бұрын
​@@ATFsteinmeans your micro circulation is fqed, aka subclinical atherosclerosis
@user-ii7xc1ry3x
@user-ii7xc1ry3x Ай бұрын
@@stx7389 or it might be something else, no point in assuming what it is
@user-ii7xc1ry3x
@user-ii7xc1ry3x Ай бұрын
The truth is that his athletes try it, like it and keep it in their diet even when they stop working with Stan. What's there to laugh about exactly?
@brofessormex
@brofessormex Ай бұрын
Two of the greatest minds in bodybuilding
@dastvard3416
@dastvard3416 Ай бұрын
Why jump from grams per kilogram to grams per pound? It's almost double the total amount.
@user-sx2rn5sl3m
@user-sx2rn5sl3m 25 күн бұрын
Carbs are the only thing I’ve noticed that effects performance. I need carbs before lifting
@metalsound74
@metalsound74 Ай бұрын
Where’s the full podcast?
@martialfartist8983
@martialfartist8983 Ай бұрын
I’m gay
@mmapounding
@mmapounding Ай бұрын
It's okay
@joshreynolds729
@joshreynolds729 Ай бұрын
🤣
@jamesfahy9954
@jamesfahy9954 Ай бұрын
Nick??
@leenux1707
@leenux1707 Ай бұрын
mark normand ?
@m.b.593
@m.b.593 Ай бұрын
Yep
@IamMrDelight
@IamMrDelight Ай бұрын
Best comment! (I won't let that random dude in the comments win)
@thegamewin100
@thegamewin100 Ай бұрын
😂😂 there’s some guy going crazy in here
@PaperLigers
@PaperLigers Ай бұрын
bros whole head is red
@ApoBeef
@ApoBeef Ай бұрын
High hematocrit?
@EthanMyers-he9qw
@EthanMyers-he9qw Ай бұрын
@@ApoBeefcialis
@DrAJ_LatinAmerica
@DrAJ_LatinAmerica Ай бұрын
Walking in the sun 🌞
@brad064
@brad064 Ай бұрын
Chronic alcoholism and congestive heart failure due to decades of PED abuse
@samj8932
@samj8932 Ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong I love meat as well but I notice a lot of these fitness guys who are crazy for meat get real red. I've heard it might be related to cholesterol. Can't be healthy 😂
@j-uk2189
@j-uk2189 Ай бұрын
What if you need to eat 4000 calories to maintain your weight, wtf am I supposed to eat without becoming diabetic? Or insulin resistant?
@Gary.6.10.19
@Gary.6.10.19 Ай бұрын
Sticks of butter
@darymetal
@darymetal Ай бұрын
Good quality fats And never eat high GI carbs, and always along with fats protein and a variety of fiber
@Gojimaru
@Gojimaru Ай бұрын
@@Gary.6.10.19 Through the rectum for instant absorbtion.
@tmapplesgaming2271
@tmapplesgaming2271 Ай бұрын
Stay lean and you won’t become insulin resistant.
@j-uk2189
@j-uk2189 Ай бұрын
@@Beehive151 yeah, that’s to maintain my body weight. I’m getting blood work done as we speak.
@jacobcastleqq7533
@jacobcastleqq7533 Ай бұрын
Derek can you please make an electrolyte powder tub.
@74747Kyle
@74747Kyle Ай бұрын
@@jacobcastleqq7533 of all the different types of supplements he pursues, im very surprised this wasnt one of the first.
@ryangutierrez6492
@ryangutierrez6492 Ай бұрын
Please drop the gorilla mind lighting breakdown. I bought some and it’s hands down the best pre I’ve used.
@gypsyking1645
@gypsyking1645 Ай бұрын
I’ve never counted a calorie in my life the easiest way to do it, is eat the same stuff wait till u get shredded then add more eggs or food and have 1 cheat day a week to reset ur system the body work like a computer it knows what your doing
@aebk8439
@aebk8439 Ай бұрын
So how many oatmeal cream pies? 🤔
@74747Kyle
@74747Kyle Ай бұрын
@@aebk8439 if yr not crushing a double stack oatmeal cream pie with every meal yr NGMI
@DB-sj6ji
@DB-sj6ji 14 күн бұрын
so what was the answer? i am just on hrt dose of trt, last time i tested my levels were around 1000ng/dl, am about 14% bodyfat 6ft 215. I added some prohormone precursors from hi tech, i want to burn fat too so should i just stick around 200g or protein and deficit eating, or 250+ and deficit or even maintenance?
@dancellana6002
@dancellana6002 Ай бұрын
Why is liver failure in the thumbnail?
@cgbach
@cgbach Ай бұрын
Derek have a stroke? That mouf ain’t movin
@phuckayumang2381
@phuckayumang2381 Ай бұрын
It's nerve damage back from when he was younger. He used to be a bouncer, got suckerpunched, fell and busted his face or something, I don't remember the whole story. That's the gist of it anyways.
@raziel8799
@raziel8799 Ай бұрын
Proteins being more satiating is a bad argument, because when satiaty is your concern how about veggies and fruits? The stomp proteins in this regard if you look at how filling 100 kcal of veggies can be. Also I think Menno Henselmans has a video about why steroid users do in fact need more protein.
@BlackSpice
@BlackSpice Ай бұрын
Make a video on using tumeric, curcumin, capilla longa for beard
@shlok.1536
@shlok.1536 20 күн бұрын
He said at the end that he would increase the protein if dieting for satiety but wouldnt that limit ones carb intake? And carbs ARE very important in a fat loss phase.
@gokukakarot1855
@gokukakarot1855 Ай бұрын
Actual scientists would suggest the enhanced population may benefit from more protein. Possibly related to the size of the protein synthesis that occurs
@derrickjordan5969
@derrickjordan5969 Ай бұрын
If I ate 1g of protein per every pound, I’d be shit my pants man
@nbarealtalker
@nbarealtalker Ай бұрын
Just aim for 1g/lb if you live an active lifestyle. You probably won’t hit it, but you’ll get enough trying and if you do hit it, it’s nowhere near too much.
@eudaimonian9473
@eudaimonian9473 Ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I can trust someone who can't tell the difference between a standard deviation and an order of magnitude...
@brandoshreds
@brandoshreds Ай бұрын
Well now we have a good idea about who made Lane pop for PEDs a few years back lol
@alucard6919
@alucard6919 Ай бұрын
What ever happened to the Liver King blood work? Are we ever gonna see that mess?
@PMC_-wj8gr
@PMC_-wj8gr Ай бұрын
Is it per kg or per lb, cos both are said here?
@74747Kyle
@74747Kyle Ай бұрын
i believe Stan did that intentionally to make 2 different points, but i could be wrong.
@6d64
@6d64 Ай бұрын
At the begging he said 0.8 gram per kilogram is to low. At the end he said 0.8 gram per pound is alright if you want to have room for carbs and caloric surplus. Or if you want to be more sated on a diet and don't feel hunger 1.2 grams per pound.
@nicholaswoods4055
@nicholaswoods4055 Ай бұрын
He’s all over the place
@darymetal
@darymetal Ай бұрын
In short, natty and enanched should eat the same protein. Which should be between 1.6g per KG and 1g per pound at maximum. Anything more is not needed for muscle growth, could be beneficial in particular dietary context tho
@hyugahyuga3761
@hyugahyuga3761 Ай бұрын
You Are Stronger Than You Think’ by Borlest totally changed how I see food. It’s crazy how much our diet affects testosterone-definitely worth a read!
@The_Legend_Himself
@The_Legend_Himself Ай бұрын
Bot lives don’t matter
@swaglevelsohigh3649
@swaglevelsohigh3649 Ай бұрын
Can you describe Borlest for me? I was interested until I saw his other books.
@michaellopez2070
@michaellopez2070 Ай бұрын
@@swaglevelsohigh3649ah, where to begin with Borlest…
@Lucas_Jeffrey
@Lucas_Jeffrey Ай бұрын
it's a bot, with botted upvotes. I see this trash book ads everywhere.
@Gathlinka
@Gathlinka Ай бұрын
I put on about 10 lbs of lean mass in 6 months eating 1g per lbs of protein could I have gotten more if I was at 1.2 g per lbs?
@morphkogan8627
@morphkogan8627 Ай бұрын
He literally said anything above 1.6g protein per KG has little to no benefit. So 1.2g per lbs is even higher
@tommcgivern8020
@tommcgivern8020 Ай бұрын
Stan is the man. But now go listen to what Justin Harris has to say about protein intake.
@carnivore-muscle
@carnivore-muscle Ай бұрын
Yeah, that's new info he's come up with. It isn't representative of what he or his athletes have done for the majority, historically. It's more for the sake of having a differing opinion. I've watched every podcast, his rationale just isn't there and is very reductionist.
@michaellopez2070
@michaellopez2070 Ай бұрын
Huberman here. Love to see what these gents have to say about Tumeric
@JVCKPOT
@JVCKPOT 25 күн бұрын
I weigh 170 and eat 120g protein
@3ATTR1X
@3ATTR1X Ай бұрын
I eat 200g protein, 200g fat a day and not lifting, but my work on weekends require heavy lifting, sometimes carrying 30-40kg cases upstairs, and 10k+ steps per day. I'm in my 50s, maintaining muscle 💪
@mcgruber
@mcgruber Ай бұрын
Too much fat
@RCX_Sco1
@RCX_Sco1 Ай бұрын
200g of fat?!😂 I'm assuming your carbs are very low then? How tf you even eat that much fat
@3ATTR1X
@3ATTR1X Ай бұрын
@@RCX_Sco1 only carbs are: greenlip NZ mussels, oysters, the odd milk/butter coffee, twice a week: tuna fritters that have sourcream and cheedar cheese. Otherwise meat, eggs, butter. And if you're finding it hard to swollow, my morning coffee has 50g+ nzbutter. At any day I can break from eating do a 48hr, even while working, aggressive adrenaline energy.
@3ATTR1X
@3ATTR1X Ай бұрын
@@mcgruber I checked, that was a minimum estimation, I am probably 250-300g, but 3 days of the week, I take a break from fat, when I am taking it easy. Fasting from fat 😉
@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio
@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio 21 күн бұрын
​@@3ATTR1XSo if you're not doing fat 3 days per week, then that should be presented in your figures. So your numbers are off.
@brucemackenzie4952
@brucemackenzie4952 26 күн бұрын
This is crazy. I weigh 180 your telling me I should consume 180 grams of protein. How in the world would someone consume that much unless they were having 3-4 protein shakes a day. Who other than pro body builders would consume that much.
@rxyz123
@rxyz123 25 күн бұрын
Actually.... It's not that hard if you eat without caring about variety. At least for lighter people. I weigh 150 lbs... About 10 percent fat.... That makes my lean mass 135 lbs. I buy pre cooked chicken... Have 8 oz 2x/day.... That's about 125 g of protein and I can pick up the rest easily in the other couple meals. 250 gb would be much harder but I think of you are under 200lbs and can stomach 2 chicken meals a day... You are good.
@EthanMyers-he9qw
@EthanMyers-he9qw Ай бұрын
Notice he didn’t know the answer to the question… so he answered a question that wasn’t asked instead.
@e.l.5402
@e.l.5402 Ай бұрын
2.5 - 5 gramm Lucein per meal. 4 meals per day
@babsds0
@babsds0 Ай бұрын
He did answer the question, you just apparently either couldn't comprehend or didn't like his answer. He said that enhanced people don't need any more protein than natties so the 0.8g/lb of protein still stands for people on PEDs too.
@EthanMyers-he9qw
@EthanMyers-he9qw Ай бұрын
⁠@@babsds0The 20 other people who liked my comment agree with me.
@babsds0
@babsds0 Ай бұрын
@@EthanMyers-he9qw He says if anything enhanced people can probably get away with eating less protein since people on steroids are more efficient at converting protein to muscle tissue. He also says that how much he recommends would be very individual specific since if someone is trying to bulk on high calories he wouldn't recommend more than 0.8g/lb but if someone is on a cut he would recommend around 1.3- 1.5g/lb.
@h91rex100
@h91rex100 Ай бұрын
@@EthanMyers-he9qw I'm not saying youre wrong, but that's a fallacious argument. A statement isn't true or not true based upon how many others believe it.
@CampH-s4g
@CampH-s4g Ай бұрын
I disagree with this, I think more protein than 1 gram per pound is necessary
@Frost.7xx
@Frost.7xx Ай бұрын
Depends on genetics. 1g/lbs is more than enough to promote muscle growth. But juice and genetics can definitely allow the higher protein intake to promote more growth
@GlacialScion
@GlacialScion Ай бұрын
​@@Frost.7xxBut steroids also increase your processing efficiency.
@NexusReload
@NexusReload Ай бұрын
​@@GlacialScionhence the argument of this conversation, everyone's protein to carbohydrate ratio is going to be different depending on the body composition you're looking for
@CampH-s4g
@CampH-s4g Ай бұрын
@@Frost.7xx what about concentration and bioavailability of micronutrients in red meat? That must play a part in effective strength training? Not to mention the animals fats being superior to plant based...since fats are a precursor for many hormones?
@carnivore-muscle
@carnivore-muscle Ай бұрын
Helpful*
@SuperDorje
@SuperDorje Ай бұрын
What also matter is the alchemical balance inside the body in general for the individual to be able to absorb the nutrient dense food completely alone rather than when someone whom may just injest any type of food it will not have the same results as someone on a stricter nutrient rich/no carb diet in order for the food even if a small amount to be able to pack a bigger punch as it should in order to eat not as much but yet feed the body appropriately and completely without overeating and overworking the gut and kidneys form digestion aside if the person is either enhanced or taking just low tier supplementation to help “gain” muscle. Hence shitty diets and training won’t be the same as a highly effective training and proper strict macronutrient foods(like organic animal products and dairy) along with high Omega 3 to help the veins have good circulation and to help heart and digestive system as well when your eating. Once the body alchemical balance is higher PH rather acidic, then the small amount of food you injest willl be better absorbed especially if eat alot more then the more food the more weight you may gain
@Ja3g3rmast3r
@Ja3g3rmast3r Ай бұрын
Is TRT considered natty or enhanced is this context?
@plyre869
@plyre869 Ай бұрын
What do you think lmao
@omarbojorquez7826
@omarbojorquez7826 Ай бұрын
Enhanced
@SaucySauceSSS
@SaucySauceSSS Ай бұрын
I eat almost exactly 1 gram per pound of body weight. Also, I look terrible and I’m 40 and age is winning and my constant obsession with diet and resistance training has resulted in one of the most mid physiques imaginable. So, nah mean bros? Amirite?? [I hate myself]
@qui1766
@qui1766 Ай бұрын
Real and incredibly based
@bc7815
@bc7815 Ай бұрын
He’s an extremely knowledgeable man. Highly educated. So don’t get me wrong, I just have a hard time believing that his vertical diet regiment is beneficial to health, when he’s as red as a tomato every time I watch a podcast of him. He must be hypertensive and have other-related issues. I also know that he recommends high-salt intake, which may be the cause 🤷‍♂️
@Ragnar199
@Ragnar199 Ай бұрын
I’m 14,4 body fat 25 bmi but tht can’t ever be 100 percent accurate I got tiny bit of fat on belly I’m on a bulk am I meant to lose the last bit of fat before bulking? I’ve been told I should
@stephen0327
@stephen0327 Ай бұрын
thought that was stan efferding
@keion_arknights
@keion_arknights Ай бұрын
Collab with MMA Guru over Jon Jones fight week lil bro.
@MusclesMustache
@MusclesMustache Ай бұрын
Is he saying 100g of protein is enough? That's it?
@Tony-m3p1v
@Tony-m3p1v Ай бұрын
Efferding is the Best!!! 🙏✝️🤴😄👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
@the_artisan3392
@the_artisan3392 Ай бұрын
So basically this guy said one thing, and then told us to do another thing
@chrispedersen2526
@chrispedersen2526 Ай бұрын
He didn't really answer the question very well. 0.8 to 1.3 grams of protein per pound of body weight if you're natty? And if you're on gear calories are king? Should probably re-do this video and cut this guy completely and just answer the question.
@MrBeast-1
@MrBeast-1 Ай бұрын
To note Lane Johnson (the RT) is not natural
@AaronfromEngland1989
@AaronfromEngland1989 Ай бұрын
Sniff tins of tuna 4 days a week
@victorcs_
@victorcs_ Ай бұрын
2,5g of leucine / meal ?
@MusclesMustache
@MusclesMustache Ай бұрын
Does he answer the question here or did I miss something?
@ehteshamkaunaine7417
@ehteshamkaunaine7417 Ай бұрын
where is Stan apprearing these days..?
@SmoothHandle
@SmoothHandle 22 күн бұрын
I ask respectfully: Why does Derek look like he had a stroke or palsy when he talks?
@dylanyewest534
@dylanyewest534 Ай бұрын
I know Jeff is shorter, but are we seriously saying he’s natty?
@-Jeff222-
@-Jeff222- Ай бұрын
4 steroid users zero natties
@lunagg1548
@lunagg1548 Ай бұрын
Who is this guy
@seanknox7321
@seanknox7321 Ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5e1k5Znep6Vpa8si=51lvrybYNDZX4o2q
@Axiomatic75
@Axiomatic75 Ай бұрын
I'm on a carnivore diet, I eat eggs and red meat mostly. I don't calculate how much protein I eat, I'm pretty sure it's enough.
@jocee2257
@jocee2257 Ай бұрын
A diet proven to be dumb
@Enzo-gj5zh
@Enzo-gj5zh Ай бұрын
Ronnie coleman ate extra protein to be extra anabolic 😂
@graff8757
@graff8757 Ай бұрын
Is there protien in my girlfriends juices? Asking for a friend ?
@RGY33
@RGY33 Ай бұрын
Your friend is eating out your girl huh? 😂
@WhoaDre
@WhoaDre Ай бұрын
@@RGY33fr 😂
@WeighedWilson
@WeighedWilson Ай бұрын
Only if your friend unloaded it there.
@arjunsingh-vy7sb
@arjunsingh-vy7sb Ай бұрын
​​@@WeighedWilson hahaha rofl
@franbelta1533
@franbelta1533 Ай бұрын
It’s reversed, enhanced your body can process high amounts of protein, Kevin Richardson seen naturals gain muscle on about 120 grams of protein for naturals
@_Broster
@_Broster Ай бұрын
DEREK SAVE THE SUB REDDIT
@Gimpstrength
@Gimpstrength Ай бұрын
I have one leg 🦿 and natty with it. I eat the fk out of carbs, I always been higher in carbs then worried about protein intake. “ Clean carbs mind you” but juice seems quite tempting 🤷🏽‍♂️ like would love to know wtf it could do. Check my Paige if you don’t believe me lol
@MrRyan-fd9rd
@MrRyan-fd9rd Ай бұрын
Stan the Man. I remember working out next to him while he’s repping 495 or 200 db’s. But the best, he was a nice person, always willing to listen and help.
@StracheyWade-i4v
@StracheyWade-i4v Ай бұрын
Davis Richard Anderson Michael Anderson Donald
@matlenaghan7488
@matlenaghan7488 Ай бұрын
Lol what? I like stan but what is ge even talking about, according to him I should be eating 90g of protein per day. Surely that can't be right lol.
@Qu.Z.
@Qu.Z. Ай бұрын
who is this guy???
@thegamewin100
@thegamewin100 Ай бұрын
@@lol-ld3jh😭😭 are you good all your comments are hilarious
@jamesfahy9954
@jamesfahy9954 Ай бұрын
Rhino. 🦏
@InlineDownhillVancouver
@InlineDownhillVancouver Ай бұрын
We'll never know. If only the full podcast was linked in the description... Oh well.
@brofessormex
@brofessormex Ай бұрын
Stan efferdin the white rhino 🦏
@KingRobbStark
@KingRobbStark Ай бұрын
​@@brofessormexSame rhino's we see at gas stations?
@ReprogrammingMasculinity
@ReprogrammingMasculinity Ай бұрын
I will always aim for 400 grams of protein. Not because of some misguided belief that it gives me added muscle building benefits, but because of the nature of macros. Protein is incredibly complex and can do a ton of things; sugars and carbs are incredibly simple and can only do one thing. Protein can be broken down into sugars AS THE BODY NEEDS THEM (which keeps fat levels down while building). Sugars cannot be converted into protein. This is like the equivalent of handing a carburetor alone to a mechanic and asking him to build you an entire car out of it. He's going to look at you like a moron, and rightfully so. A car, however, can be broken down into thousands of different pieces that all do different things, which is how protein is in our bodies. Protein is and will always remain king of the nutrients.
@MaBe_Music
@MaBe_Music Ай бұрын
I can't watch this guy because i'm afraid them veins in his forehead will go poppin' any moment.
@julio4771
@julio4771 Ай бұрын
Guys just eat 200g of protein per day that's proven to be optimal for most people
@Please_allow_me
@Please_allow_me Ай бұрын
Thats pretty much what I aim for to be honest. At least 200g, maybe more depending on the day (up to 220/230) but yeah this subject has been ridiculously over complicated I think.
@julio4771
@julio4771 Ай бұрын
@@Please_allow_me Hell yeah brother
@tribalflexin5548
@tribalflexin5548 Ай бұрын
Optimal for the kidneys also!
@carnivore-muscle
@carnivore-muscle Ай бұрын
All these guys arguing about science that has been repeatedly debunked for decades. I've been consuming over 300g of protein for a decade, and 350g+ for over 5 years. No issue, on the carnivore diet, that's what my appetite does tell me to have. That's before any moron tries to argue with me otherwise, considering my degree is actually IN Human Nutrition.
@seanknox7321
@seanknox7321 Ай бұрын
They aren’t arguing you can over eat protein they are simply saying you don’t need to consume more than they said. The goal is to reach your calorie goal and some people have a hard time eating protein so they need to be aware of the minimum.
@benjaminbrooks7286
@benjaminbrooks7286 21 күн бұрын
Tbh idk what was said. What was the final point
@wigletron2846
@wigletron2846 26 күн бұрын
I eat 3000cal a day and the only carbs and fats i eat are trace from protein sources.
@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio
@RaphaelDawkinsCombatRadio 21 күн бұрын
Lmfao
@BigManJev
@BigManJev 29 күн бұрын
So basically, eat 2 packs of dollar store hot dogs per day. Got it, thanks!
@paulira7407
@paulira7407 Ай бұрын
“5 to 6 cups of quinoa would wreck you. Good luck with that.” Not really, Stan.
@carlosthomas6534
@carlosthomas6534 Ай бұрын
First
@justinhammonds8575
@justinhammonds8575 Ай бұрын
1st yes
@MrJgray1319
@MrJgray1319 Ай бұрын
First comment!!!
@Jwdude123
@Jwdude123 Ай бұрын
Nope you are second try harder
@MrJgray1319
@MrJgray1319 Ай бұрын
@@Jwdude123 darn my stupid phone!!!
@Scoobied77
@Scoobied77 Ай бұрын
My dog just farted.
@andyhall8473
@andyhall8473 21 күн бұрын
People with only 1 kidney can only have 80g protein per day max, so I have to double carbs and fat so my macros at 165lbs maintaining 80g Protein/ 450g Carbs/ 80g - 100g Fat Daily!!!!
@KennyRogers8972
@KennyRogers8972 Ай бұрын
I just do 500grams of tren per kilogram to be safe and eat whatever
@BaZOOka39
@BaZOOka39 Ай бұрын
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