The Illusion of Luxury - SAVAGE X FENTY (Gloss Over 0.06)

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Lisa Fevral

Lisa Fevral

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@c4chu
@c4chu 2 жыл бұрын
so excited to watch this! i think an important part of this is how "smart" rihanna has been in balancing her "down to earth" imagine all while being a billionaire... sure maybe she's nice in real life but (say it with me!) you can't be a billionaire without exploiting others. it makes her customers feel like supporting her brand is somehow uplifting impoverished woc businesses when in reality it's a bunch of rich people in corporate suits deciding which brand of woke they're gonna use for their daily instagram post
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and the focus on representation overshadows the abuse of people in impoverished countries(there are ways to produce ethically everywhere, but they would be telling everyone about the factory’s certifications if they had any
@7mariposas775
@7mariposas775 2 жыл бұрын
You need to stop using women of color finally being seen as a viable dollar sign to major corporations as them "pretending to be woke." Because truth be told, they see every woman as dollar signs they just decided to finally accept ours and make more profit. Fashion is a business. Whatever makes them the most money is what they lean towards and in the past they saw white faces as the thing that they assumed fetch them the most currency and give them the highest return on investment while today women of color stopped begging publicly for representation and decided to build their own platforms and wealth strategies. When it was discovered that women of color have an insane amount of buying power, every business got on board, including the fashion and beauty industries who previously rejected the notion came in probably at least 25 different colors on the skintone scale if you started just at an olive tone while we can also have the same tone as you average white women's standard 5 hues of peach. Until now makeup lines that included black women shades only came in 2 skin tones- Beyonce's color or Lupita Nyongo's and they ofen time had the undertones too red or too orange for the colors the made in between those for anyone to wear. They also only made sexy lingerie for flat chested women or women who were a small C cup while women with real curves only had the option of a black, white or tan granny bra that was 4X the price. That's lazy thinking and cognitive dissonance at it's finest to make it a black or white thing. It's a money thing and it's bigger profit in a smaller amount of time thing.
@mattia51296
@mattia51296 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@tradingwithtina4555
@tradingwithtina4555 2 жыл бұрын
These celebrities literally don't care about us only themselves and their pockets..... Rihanna is fake to me puts on a smile pretends to be nice. Then promotes obesity clinically unhealthy which is insane to me.
@wolfie8890
@wolfie8890 Жыл бұрын
why are you acting as if women of colour are exempt from exploitative production and as if there isn't a distinct class difference between the day to day workers who produce the garments, mostly women in the global south that get paid pennies, who often enough never have the privilege of starting a business. you liberal activists uplift the petit-bourgeois as long as they belong to this designated social group -- which often enough is racist and demeaning in itself as you gloss over the individualist and ignoble agenda that many of these people have. You excuse the devil when he is represented by his demons.
@ellyadams4483
@ellyadams4483 2 жыл бұрын
The vip stuff is definitely the worst part for me my friend was subscribed to it and she had an impossible time canceling and some of the products didn't fit well I'm glad to see it being talked about
@authenticuser4177
@authenticuser4177 2 жыл бұрын
i got it because i needed underwear and heard good things about the fenty thongs, doja rapped about it etc. they don't have enough stuff that's cute enough to justify buying monthly. they gave me an impossible time cancelling, i had to remember pass on a few months before actually having my cancellation sorted out. also it's just straight standard sizing, no special bra sizes etc so i have some stuff from them that doesn't fit and i can't return since trying it on
@我让它发生
@我让它发生 2 жыл бұрын
Have had high hopes here hh how hard he has had her heart hurt her husband here high heels had his hair had had h
@tinachristine4573
@tinachristine4573 2 жыл бұрын
Now you are lying. I had a VIP membership and I got FANTASTIC pieces that even my easily irritated skin can tolerate, I even accidentally sleep in my Fenty Savage. Cancelling my VIP was EASY. Once my pieces age, I'll be back on there in a heartbeat.
@NonaMoreau
@NonaMoreau 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinachristine4573 Lmao if a person had bad experience with a brand doesn’t mean they are lying
@tinachristine4573
@tinachristine4573 2 жыл бұрын
@@NonaMoreau it's not even herself, it's 'her friend'. She is lying.
@whateveer
@whateveer 2 жыл бұрын
Y'all judge other celebrity brands like crazy but Rihanna rarely gets the same level of bad publicity as any of the other celebrity brands
@mynameisreallycool1
@mynameisreallycool1 2 жыл бұрын
So true. I've been seeing those biases a lot lately. Also, her fanbase is can't take any criticism directed at Rihanna at all. You can't dare to disagree with the notion that Rihanna is perfect and the greatest human being of her generation without them trying to fight you for it.
@elli1418
@elli1418 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynameisreallycool1 i feel like the same thing applies to nicki minaj aswell. i swear if i had a dollar for everytime i voiced my opinion about not liking nicki and then ending up getting mauled by a barb i'd be fuckin rich 💀😭
@elli1418
@elli1418 2 жыл бұрын
@@mynameisreallycool1 what also irks me is when nicki is the topic of the conversation and someone says they rlly like her music or whatever and i try to bring up the bad shit she's done i'm immediately the bad guy 💀 like wtf i'm not nicki don't get mad at me 😭
@twistedbabydoll85
@twistedbabydoll85 Жыл бұрын
This always puzzles me.
@Diana-cd8ox
@Diana-cd8ox 2 жыл бұрын
To me 'luxury' means that an item GAINS worth in time. Not the other way around. It's a shame that label seems to be such a scam. Had no idea. And thank you for bringing to the light that sustainble brands actually do not have to cost arm and leg. Great vid! 👍
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
I also think that luxury is having clean air to enjoy, good delicious food to eat, instead of wearing a thong made of plastic. but I guess to those people who lead these brands, climate change is nothing, since they will have the money to create a micro climate for themselves
@glitterberserker1029
@glitterberserker1029 2 жыл бұрын
There is no way underwear will gains value over time. I get your point but my first thought was reselling underwear will only ever work for those on only fans.
@Belltogo3000
@Belltogo3000 2 жыл бұрын
Most luxury cars do not gain value
@celinepope
@celinepope 2 жыл бұрын
When people say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism," I get irked. As a student in environmental science and sustainability.. let me say. That statement matters not. Life is not black or white. So, we need to encourage the steps in ourselves, our friends and yes, corporations. It all makes a difference.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
I think it depends on who says it and in what context. Producing clothes is not environmentally neutral, unfortunately, so we still have a negative impact on it regardless of what we do. However, we can do at least some things that are up to us, but MOST OF ALL, get corporations to answer for what they do and stop them
@limpchees
@limpchees 2 жыл бұрын
I hate when people say stuff like that, it's basically saying "there's no perfect way so you might as well do it the worst way out there"
@isbalella
@isbalella 2 жыл бұрын
Same because first of all that's such a cop-out, and second depending on how consistent you want to be there is no ethical consumption period, no matter the economic system. That phrase is so meaningless.
@ihanakaunotar2741
@ihanakaunotar2741 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaFevral depends what you consider neutral, if we’re going carbon neutral, which I think is honestly the stupidest thing and I’m an environmental engineer. People have become scared of carbon acting like it’s an evil thing, no scientist can’t even say what carbon level the earth should stay in.
@celinepope
@celinepope 2 жыл бұрын
@Luci Evelyn I understand politics and production just fine. I also understand secondhand shopping. There is no need to act almighty and claim I dont understand concepts in the field. Difference of opinion is one thing, and presenting one's opinion is another. Also, universities arent "neo-liberal" institutions. So, dont make an attempt to put me down for attending university, it comes across as uneducated on your part. Edit: buying secondhand IS ethical consumption. Not everything has to be produced to be manufactured. If you would like to understand more of my views to clarify, please prompt answers to any questions you might have. Yet you fail to do that and assume.
@little_lottie
@little_lottie 2 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that subscription model is the reason why the products are so shit. They make the products so bad to make it so you need to buy more bras every month.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, just like construction companies build our homes to fall apart in 7 years
@ihanakaunotar2741
@ihanakaunotar2741 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaFevral Que in China…
@stylpumpkin
@stylpumpkin 2 жыл бұрын
The vip thing is such a scam, celebrities really think that we are stupid. Lizzo also did the vip subscription scam, and im really disappointed with these celebs that could have made incredibly good, ethical and environmental business instead choose to make overpriced versions shein. They knew what they were doing im tired of these fans making them seem like super innocent, but then again i cant rlly blame the fans cause its mostly the younger fans that defend them no matter what. I had higher expectations for savagexfenty since i thought that rihanna would put an effort into her brand.
@fra7337
@fra7337 2 жыл бұрын
100% agree. Also tired of this performative feminism by women that exploit others.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
yeah all these boss babes not giving a damn that they are forcing child labour, environmental collapse and other crap while becoming "billionaires". they gotta get a grip
@fra7337
@fra7337 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaFevral thank you for prioriting intellectual honesty over caring about fandoms. It’s very difficult to find real opinions
@ZephyrinSkies
@ZephyrinSkies 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, sure younger people are more vulnerable to putting their idols on pedestals, but they gotta learn and still take some responsibility for their stupidity.
@kikis.w0rld
@kikis.w0rld 2 жыл бұрын
I remember buying from their very first Black Friday sale SO excited to wear my bralette. come to find out I could have bought the same bra from target or Walmart for half the price ://
@limpchees
@limpchees 2 жыл бұрын
I got my bras from Carrefour, I'm pretty sure it's similar to Target / Walmart, kind of like a european version, after going into different stores and comparing the quality. The only difference was the brand and the enormous price difference.
@XuiLeeEv
@XuiLeeEv Жыл бұрын
@@limpchees I'd say Carrefour closer to Target, Walmart is more like Lidl clothes sales.
@windenfalls
@windenfalls 2 жыл бұрын
you just said everything I felt for a long time with this brand, very well -worded. I saw savage and yitty reviews from Naomi John and I couldn't believe both of the singers don't mind this sketchy subscription model... basically they say one thing but then do completely different
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
they all got the money not to support this too, but nooooo
@uberkirbeeh7954
@uberkirbeeh7954 2 жыл бұрын
No wounder why gen Z is not wearing bras because who the fuck wants to even deal with this over-saturated problem of bras not fitting despite being your size.
@limpchees
@limpchees 2 жыл бұрын
this, you'll rarely see me in a bra that's not a sports bra because those actually fit me
@je55777
@je55777 2 жыл бұрын
I love how succinctly you illustrate that it's a feeling and a vibe that these companies are trying to sell us, cuz often times the actual product is garbage. It's all marketing genius and I have to give them kudos for that, but you really don't get that rich without cutting corners or exploiting someone somewhere along the line. Also you're so pretty!
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
oh thank you🥰
@madalinaanton3253
@madalinaanton3253 Жыл бұрын
Considering that now there are a lot of tiktoks shaming women who don't wash their bras after every use I think there are people who feel they need 100 bras. I've even heard men comparing breast to testicles and that a used bra is as disgusting as used underwear, considering how often men wash their underwear this is quite funny. I work in the hospital and I don't change my scrubs daily, maybe once every other day, most of the doctors I know change their scrubs once a week, I think you are safe to wear a bra for a week straight as well.
@haxan1187
@haxan1187 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for mentioning the issue of sustainability in relation to how much money a brand has from the start. As a small (micro) business owner, it's really hard to convince people an indie brand, which has less social prestige and less money/finance behind it than a major label is "worth it" when juggling trying to maintain accessibility with sustainability while still being profitable, or even just breaking even. I have to build it as I go, and with more money comes more access to sustainability (like eco-friendly compostable mailers, or recycled paper for instance, which cost more). Sometimes it feels like people will criticize the indie brand as not doing enough when major brands like Fenty get away without the same level of criticism. It's frustrating because they're the ones with the money who have the full ability to create a transparent, inclusive, sustainable, and ethical brand, but they don't. They decide high profit is more important.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, they are the ones that have the resources and yet CHOOSE to not do better. They can actually afford more sustainable things since paying for the initial setup of some processes is what keeps many small brands away from being sustainable, bc they cant afford that initial investment. Fenty had millions invested right off the bat, and yet
@CM_CM_
@CM_CM_ 2 жыл бұрын
There used to be a site called Just Project which had a list of all major and some minor brands and their ethics including environmental issues and contracts they had broken but also things like factory workers dying in fires even after claims made by stores (I think it was H&M in this case) about repairing and improving fire safety in those very same factories. The site was closed down by big companies threatening the two owners. It was over a decade ago when the sustainability climate, especially online, was so different than today - I'm so glad more sites like it are popping up and spreading awareness.
@medea__witchhh
@medea__witchhh 2 жыл бұрын
the jeff bezos cockroach edit 😭😭
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
hehe I was waiting for someone to comment about it🤭
@atia5146
@atia5146 2 жыл бұрын
I had to call to cancel the automatic VIP membership. It wasn’t something I could cancel online. The bralette material made my skin irritated.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
That’s so annoying omg
@witchyfishfry
@witchyfishfry 2 жыл бұрын
genuinely such a good video :) my favorite sustainable brand is Natalia Trevino Amaro, she makes everything herself and i really look up to her in the sustainability aspect of her business that i would love to emulate when i eventually start a sustainable fashion brand
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
ohhh that's really cool, I'll check her out! I know that not having a carbon footprint is impossible, but people treating workers well and trying to not waste resources would already go SUCH a long way
@witchyfishfry
@witchyfishfry 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaFevral soo true, she also has really good transparency since she's also a youtuber and basically vlogs everything she does it's very cool to see
@AlwaysSadé
@AlwaysSadé 2 жыл бұрын
I have some savage bras and they are not good quality. The vip prices should be the regular price because that's honestly what they are worth
@FranBalcazar
@FranBalcazar 2 жыл бұрын
The VIP subscription that Yitty also has is totally a scam. Seems so stupid and pretty much hoping to get people to forget they're paying and charge them a huge amount (also I've heard that people are having a LOT of issues trying to simply cancel the damn subscription)
@elizabethclarke4981
@elizabethclarke4981 2 жыл бұрын
Hated that vip thing, also turned me off from the brand
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
They’re just being ridiculous at this point
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Fabletic and Adore me were the progenitors of the shitty subscription service.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the same people who came up with fabletics subscription service are in charge of fenty’s
@solarmoth4628
@solarmoth4628 2 жыл бұрын
@@LisaFevral I brought one bra from Adore Me many years ago. I remember that Adore Me would just take overstock from other cheap brands and so their tag in. With the subscription you ended up paying more for a crappy product.
@Essetheartist
@Essetheartist 2 жыл бұрын
It was her way of hitting billionaire status
@AC-mp9wi
@AC-mp9wi 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video about luxury bags? I really feel like they have exceeded the limits of overpriced and are just ridiculous at this point but they are such a symbol in our society it became normalized. I think it would be interesting :)
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to, so I'll do it in the near future!
@drippy6296
@drippy6296 Жыл бұрын
And the yearly (bi yearly in Chanel’s case) price increases are getting more & more out of touch every time.
@andreeam.3889
@andreeam.3889 Жыл бұрын
You could watch Tanner Leatherstein on youtube or instagram. He is a professional in the leather goods (especially bags) field and breaks down all that goes into producing a luxury bag (cost of leather, craftsmanship and hardware etc). Turns out a small Gucci bag takes only 120-160 $ to produce (all the costs up to the retail price are reflected in the image of the brand, not on the item per se). In a nutshell, we are paying for the status that brands offer us, not the quality…I am a bag lover myself and I always love to shop independent, local brands or understated, lesser known designers. I got high quality bags for 200 - 500 $ 🧚‍♂️
@limpchees
@limpchees 2 жыл бұрын
thank you for talking about this, a lot of people don't want to because it has Rihanna's name on it and she's a significant person for many, it's often hard to believe that someone you idolize so much would do something wrong.
@startlestarfish
@startlestarfish 2 жыл бұрын
I would also check out Black femininity tv’s vid that goes deep into some shady behind the scenes aspects of the brand.
@soren4441
@soren4441 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the whole vid yet but your top is so pretty 😭. Would love to see your fits on the ootd
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I should post it more hehe
@carmosilva3589
@carmosilva3589 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you speak, it is really fluid and eloquent ☺️
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
oh thank you sm🥰
@amu7052
@amu7052 Жыл бұрын
yes omg you're so raw and crystal clear, and extremely logical with your points! Great video, a well needed eye opener
@Arayofsunshine-88
@Arayofsunshine-88 9 ай бұрын
I've never thought savage was positioned as luxury. If anything they promoted themselves as being for everybody
@katlavender2806
@katlavender2806 2 жыл бұрын
I got a box from them as soon as they launched basically (riding all the hype of Rhianna's brand etc), and even then I was kind of in disbelief at how awful the quality was. I canceled my subscription right away, and never bought from them ever again. Seeing a bunch of KZbinrs being sponsored by them and them praising the quality of products of all things.... I almost gaslit myself into thinking I may be had too high expectations or smth lol thanks for bringing light to this! ALSO can confirm that organic basics is absolutely THE best underwear I've ever worn in my entire life. Better than any high end brand if you care about comfort more than lace.
@twistedbabydoll85
@twistedbabydoll85 Жыл бұрын
Just by the pictures, I could tell her stuff was cheap.
@noexonolife65
@noexonolife65 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a bit embarrassed to admit that I fell into the subscription plan. Didn’t have any experience with such scams before, I was just a uni student looking to buy a cute set and the vip price looked really inviting. The set I ended up getting did look exactly like the pictures but wasn’t the most comfortable underwear I had. Neither the bra nor the panties. A bit scratchy and rough. I barely wore them. I ended up subscribed for the vip thingy for almost 2 years, mostly cause I read that it’s really hard to unsubscribe and you usually end up having to call them. I have anxiety and thought it’s easier to skip every month than dealing with their staff. I finally unsubscribed and thankfully it was a very quick process lol. But still, I personally don’t see a need to shop underwear monthly. I don’t need a new bra every month. Also the other couple of times I checked out their website I never really found anything cute and they were often out of my size. In my opinion, the true price of the underwear is the vip price and they make the original price more expensive to both make it seem more luxurious and to also make you think that if you get the subscription you’re getting something of a high quality but for a cheaper price
@phos5990
@phos5990 Жыл бұрын
i love how you speak!! appreciate you
@kadelu1137
@kadelu1137 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis and really appreciate the sustainable alternatives:)
@kathylennerds750
@kathylennerds750 2 жыл бұрын
Oh slay. Ive been waiting for something like this! Interested to see what ur gonna say but i personally always felt it looked a bit cheap for the prices they charge and VERY few of the designs seem ,, new or interesting in any way.
@Princessm2025
@Princessm2025 2 жыл бұрын
The lingerie looks like cheap terrible quality as if it was from the lingerie section of a discount fast fashion store in the mall from like 2010 😅 love Rihanna but this brand has never appealed to me whatsoever LOL
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
that's what I thought too. doesn't look like anything I'd wanna be see in ahaha
@chrystianaw8256
@chrystianaw8256 2 жыл бұрын
Same. You can see the cheapness in the pictures. That's why I never bought anything from her brand
@suturiste9
@suturiste9 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE Organic Basics!!!! Their products are comfortable, the material looks good in person, and mu stuff Holds up after many wears and washes
@5autumndream
@5autumndream 2 жыл бұрын
I could listen to you talk all day 😽 big love Lisa
@upsetstudios1819
@upsetstudios1819 2 жыл бұрын
A while ago I discovered the lingerie brand Empress Mimi. I had been looking for something more flamboyant and the page is packed with beautiful two- to several-piece sets. Although the average person probably just wants one of these sets for very special occasions, they also have monthly surprise boxes with one set per month. I think those boxes makes a little more sense than Fenty's, because you're not just paying for an everyday bra over and over
@ciara02
@ciara02 Жыл бұрын
The lil video of you taking off your wig took me out 💀 great video as always! 💘💘
@ihanakaunotar2741
@ihanakaunotar2741 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of black celebrities have been getting away with a lot of shit lately just straight up scamming their customers like these monthly subscription, Lizzo for example.
@twistedbabydoll85
@twistedbabydoll85 Жыл бұрын
I'm Black and I have to answer this. The Black community has a serious issue with holding Black men, light-skinned Black people, and rich Black people accountable. If you are a poor (or even struggling) Black woman of a certain hue, you're blamed for everything or not sympathized with. There are rich Black people who have murdered, raped, and abused adults and children but they're still being praised for "leaving the hood" or "beating the odds". This is why BLM is so Black male centered. And yet, where are the marches for Black femicide? I get supporting each other in the Black community, but the support usually comes from shallow and superficial place and not from the heart; it's all influenced by White supremacy and patriarchy.
@prinxe4230
@prinxe4230 2 жыл бұрын
the way i am happy now at people realizing rih is exploitative and not a good person. she’s been racist towards asians for awhile now so i kept my guard and stayed tf away from her work and now i realize that was an amazing decision even when fenty beauty/savage x fenty came out
@twistedbabydoll85
@twistedbabydoll85 Жыл бұрын
She never was a good person. She's a malignant narcissist and has shown antisocial personality qualities. She also sympathizes with abusive men and pedophiles. She gets passes for the same reason Naomi Campbell, another abhorrent human being, does. And it's not just Asians. She always had a hateboner towards Black American women. She stayed bullying African-American women but never targeted African or foreign Black women. Some, not all, Africans and other foreign Blacks tend to think they're better than African-Americans despite the fact that had it not been for Black Americans, they wouldn't even have made it IN America! She seems to never have smoke for White men, Black men, or foreign Blacks.
@jellyfishwitch
@jellyfishwitch 2 жыл бұрын
great video!! helped a dummy like me understand a brand better and what to expect of a luxury brand as well!!
@ZephyrinSkies
@ZephyrinSkies 2 жыл бұрын
Man, everything this brand stands for is just so bad. That subscription model especially, just to pump out garbage and suck out as much money as they legally can. It sounds borderline illegal how difficult it is to cancel, especially reading other comments about some people couldn't even cancel at all. It's like a trap or a scam.
@sabrinabeeart
@sabrinabeeart 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought new bras a month ago from a store in my city. for the first time I spent a (for me) ludicrous amount of money for a hight quality bra which was like 40€. so not only was it cheaper than the vip subscription, but if I just went and bought a new bra every month from that store I would have twelve great fitting bras at the end of the year when the vip subscription gives me....nothing??? I'd have to spend additional money? lol no thx
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, like wth And who needs 12 bras??
@pascalelandry8630
@pascalelandry8630 Жыл бұрын
Dear, you are a brilliant, articulate woman. I enjoyed listening to your video. Thank you for opening eyes. Don't trust celebrities. We live on the same planet, but not the same world.
@loredanaagafitei623
@loredanaagafitei623 2 жыл бұрын
I can buy bras made of organic knitted silk that are cheaper than the poliester stuff that doesn't fit from SavageXFenti.
@breannwhite8430
@breannwhite8430 2 жыл бұрын
I loved this analysis, I think is worth talking about. I used to shop there a lot when they first came out but I stopped. what I liked was that there was a problem in regards to inclusion and body imaging in the lingerie scene and SavageX presented a solution. Here's an unnecessary deep dive lol ... Pros: I really liked that they catered to POC and inclusive of models of not only of different sizes but genders and abilities they made visible demographics that companies have neglected. I want to 'see myself' represented when I shop. Also I know you said SavageX retouches photos and stretch marks but I think a better example would have been to use a curvy/plus model that you could really see it on, there are lot with their stretch marks and other so called "imperfections" left in and thats one thing I liked. As a busty girl I was so happy to have an inclusive brand, size wise and to see more POC which is what VS lacked and why I stopped shopping there even though I like their look more. I didn't really mind the subscription, it was NOT hard to cancel for me and I never had issue with shipping or products or quality ( although I stopped shopping in 2019 ish 2020). Cons: The price points ( they are a lot higher now, I know in 2022 a lot of things are but I dont think its just the times) and the larger sizes aren't always available ( or they are higher than the smaller sizes), or not available in the cute colors and always sold out. I feel like as a bustier girl its soooo hard to find cute lingerie thats also affordable. I also don't like most of the designs lol personally I want an overly girly-girly version, more lace, more embroidery, more dainty. I feel like the words "luxury and High-end" are being VERY loosely used today. I also think the clothes/ lounge wear are kinda boring. I have yet to find an affordable happy median. But all in all at the end of the day its underwear so I say go with a brand that makes you feel great about yourself.
@ishouldbesleeeping
@ishouldbesleeeping 2 жыл бұрын
Try Bravissimo or M&S if available in your country. They bra struggle is real for big boobie girls but trust you can get cute stuff it just costs a bit more unfortunately but I find M&S very wear hardy and look good for a long time especially if you hand wash
@breannwhite8430
@breannwhite8430 2 жыл бұрын
@@ishouldbesleeeping Thanks for that! those brands are pretty cute i'm going to check them out.
@breannwhite8430
@breannwhite8430 2 жыл бұрын
@kyfaydfsoab Can you explain more? I'd love to hear your opinions :)
@en2186
@en2186 2 жыл бұрын
They have such good advertising and therefore a lot of women rate it as good. I'm a member myself and I can say YES it is a scam. The quality is cheap af, the designs are meh. The cotton undie literally ripped after I washed it the first time. Also the show had a controversy back in 2020 when Rihanna herself literally picked a song made off a hadith of doomsday and it got brushed under the rug after she apologized and deleted the apology 💀 I personally am against cancel culture but this literally showed me how worse stan culture is
@sin_city_vintage46
@sin_city_vintage46 2 жыл бұрын
I work in a thrift store & i see a ton savage×fenty bras donated & they are all falling apart & trash material
@ducky19991
@ducky19991 2 жыл бұрын
My comment made it in the video omg 😁 I love this channel
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
😘
@desireereyes9043
@desireereyes9043 2 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! I couldn’t understand the hype I purchased a few items that I realized it was trash. The bras have no lining the fabric feels synthetic in the seams are cheap
@St_Fish
@St_Fish 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a dude who doesn't listen to Rihanna's music or follow fashion, so all I ever see about her brand are the most mainstream headlines fawning over how inspiring or successful she is. Thanks for contributing to exposing what's actually happening behind the scenes. However, I want to try to add to the conversation because I feel like you don't go far enough with your analysis. You draw conclusions like "Rihanna should know better... companies should be nicer to their consumers... we need more ethical capitalism... etc." The issue is not a question of whether or not capitalists choose to be more ethical-the logic of the system dictates that all firms must compete with each other to maximise their profits or risk being outcompeted by other firms, and "unethical" companies will always have the greatest potential to profit by keeping their costs low (ie: by paying their workers as little as possible) and charging their customers as much as possible. The root of the issue doesn't get fixed until the workers who produce the goods and services organize to take control of production and produce based on need rather than profit.
@karolinakuc4783
@karolinakuc4783 Жыл бұрын
But at least they could respect their customers. Sell things of good quality.
@katuu00
@katuu00 2 жыл бұрын
Great research! Also that cockroach animation was golden
@isthatachicken
@isthatachicken 2 жыл бұрын
Aaaye new upload
@r.omi98
@r.omi98 2 жыл бұрын
idk why i got this recommended but i agree 100%
@tobe4real
@tobe4real 2 жыл бұрын
You popped off in that bit about consumerism 🙌🏾 There are luxury brands that aren’t ethically or sustainably made, but I see your point on the fact that there’s no transparency or seemingly an attempt to make it look sustainable , ethical or even luxury. Nothing to say why they are different. Being attached to Rhianna is enough Also here in the U.K it was difficult to actually get the products in person, the exclusivity of it definitely raised the bar. Although personally for me I’ve never seen it as luxury, just a brand that had a makeup line with great amount of colour shades. For a lot of women if colour this was a big draw Also I find it so baffling that she doesn’t understand billionaires should not exist, they only exist with wealth inequality
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
I think her makeup brand operated differently, but Im not sure! It’s definitely so weird that she thinks it’s normal to be a billionaire
@sheppiehet5464
@sheppiehet5464 2 жыл бұрын
Young lady I take my hat off to you. Glad to know that there are young persons out here with the ability to peel back the layers behind this phantom and her brand. The cult mentality is dangerous for any developing society. I hope all the shenanigans surrounding this entity is further exposed. I believe she rode that sympathy wave. Never appreciated the hype surrounding this mediocrity on all levels.
@tobe4real
@tobe4real 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the sustainable underwear recommendations!
@princessfaust
@princessfaust 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt expect the trix to make a cameo but im not complaining
@dennisochoa1066
@dennisochoa1066 2 жыл бұрын
You’re amazing girl♥️
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
🥰🥰
@natasa3412
@natasa3412 2 жыл бұрын
There’s nothing luxurious about that brand. Beautiful? Yes. Inclusive? Yes. Feels like an mlm with their membership? Yes! A brand that doesn’t open source their materials and uses sweatshops can’t be luxurious even if marketed so.
@akiyatiffany
@akiyatiffany 10 ай бұрын
I like fenty. The quality is good. It’s my favorite after Victoria’s Secret. I think people are only judging bc it’s Rihanna. People like to complain. The prices aren’t bad. The sales are great. And you can literally skip your membership every 3 months. If you can’t handle skipping then pay regular price. Simple 😂 as far as ethics…. 99% of businesses lack it. Also people choose whats luxury for themselves. Luxury is different for everybody
@MPK1637
@MPK1637 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. I aspire to be as articulate as you one day.
@simplyputmusings2948
@simplyputmusings2948 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the subscription model, Walmart pricing kind of turned me off.
@andreamercedescontrerasher674
@andreamercedescontrerasher674 Жыл бұрын
where did you buy that top? It's beautiful
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral Жыл бұрын
ugly shadow!
@josephgilbert1864
@josephgilbert1864 2 жыл бұрын
love this video!
@XxSilentObserverxX
@XxSilentObserverxX Жыл бұрын
does anyone know the name of the song playing at the very beginning and during topic transitions? please I've been searching forever D: impeccable taste in music and great video as always!
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral Жыл бұрын
it's a song I've made, you can find it on my channel, it's called "So Lucky"
@Deckenmoenchin
@Deckenmoenchin 2 жыл бұрын
Yesss, my comment made it 🥰 Thank you :3
@karolinakuc4783
@karolinakuc4783 Жыл бұрын
8:20 It looks so cheap. Definitely 100% synthetic fibres
@mystique3645
@mystique3645 Жыл бұрын
I had no idea just how wasteful Savage x Fenty is. I initially got excited hearing about it because I struggle to find lingerie and bras in general that fit (I'm tiny and my band size is below standard) so I hoped rhianna was going to be serious enough about the inclusivity that I'd finally have more options. The answer is a no and it's just a no for most people I know who struggle to find bras. So I just tossed the brand aside. Hearinf about the VIP thing ...just wow.
@emilavetisyan8148
@emilavetisyan8148 2 жыл бұрын
I purchased a few things from FENTY, back when it was just a regular clothing line, and I’m pretty satisfied with the quality. Also, almost all my clothes are from luxury brands, and believe me, some brands are so messed up when it comes to quality that you won’t even imagine.
@emilavetisyan8148
@emilavetisyan8148 2 жыл бұрын
@kyfaydfsoab huh?
@olivianwaokocha5955
@olivianwaokocha5955 Жыл бұрын
They do have an about us tab at the bottom; it looks like they revamped their website
@Lilmisscostumedrama
@Lilmisscostumedrama Жыл бұрын
This was the EXACT reason I never bought Victoria’s Secret. When it first started in the late 80’s/early 90’s it was a decent product. Then it became all about the “models” and the product that was sold in stores are made in the same factory (using same basic materials) as Tesco and Marks & Spencers lingerie. This same could be said for Savage x Fenty. Using high paid well-known models. But crap product.
@hanatom7841
@hanatom7841 2 жыл бұрын
Btw The Organic Basic company recently perished and they were bought by the company that owns many different fast fashion brands like Adidas. They are going to change the whole brand and just make money bc of the original brending that the company had... Love you❤
@magdajedrzejewska
@magdajedrzejewska 2 жыл бұрын
Noooooo :( I loved their underwear, it was so comfy!
@hanatom7841
@hanatom7841 2 жыл бұрын
@@magdajedrzejewska same😞
@mistress.villaina7591
@mistress.villaina7591 2 жыл бұрын
what 😭
@limpchees
@limpchees 2 жыл бұрын
rich corporates strike again...
@krischionjohnson96
@krischionjohnson96 2 жыл бұрын
Sad
@kingkamala39
@kingkamala39 Жыл бұрын
I’m looking at fabletics w the subscription thing too 😒
@etherealbre
@etherealbre 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel, immediately suscribed. I learned ALOT ! 🙂
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you liked the vid, and welcome to my channel haha🥰
@sadiewood7302
@sadiewood7302 2 жыл бұрын
i personally have never bought anything from savage because i genuinely never found anything on the website that i liked, which doesn’t happen often because i’m not super picky when it comes to clothes, regardless of that i had a friend order from savage and i was there when she opened her order and i’ll be honest i was lowkey shocked at the very cheap look of the products. like pretty equivalent to shein quality, very tacky, not luxurious at all. made me glad i never have purchased from them. i love how rihanna has made a positive impact on fashion when it comes to inclusivity, but it doesn’t excuse the fact that the quality of the products is objectively poor.
@cscreative5460
@cscreative5460 2 жыл бұрын
I was in denial for so long because if was “Rihanna’s brand”. The quality is hit or miss and I definitely let it go!
@soren4441
@soren4441 2 жыл бұрын
Not you using your own wing meme 😂
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahahah well someone has to ahahahah
@nuotatorre8741
@nuotatorre8741 2 жыл бұрын
Now I don't know why I follow this channel, since I hate shopping and don't care what I put on the moring. But as a total outsider I can say than I realy like this video, since it focuses on the problem winouth being aggressive/passive aggressive or trying to make it look like a murder mistery with fancy editing and that kind of stuff. I must say I honestly find the concept of Fast fashon something difficult to understand, since generaly I don't get why you should buy something new to do something some other thing is already doing for you. I do get than that feels good, since after it's nice to buy new things, I get it I also like to buy things I enjoy than might not have a use outsids of looking preatty. What I don't get is when you costantly keep on buying more and more. My brother has over 100 Funk Pops bought in around a year, that is just crazy to me, since when you buy so much in such a short time to me it feels like the personal value has been lost. When I want to buy some sort of figure I want it to be of a charcter or from a show/game I liked a lot, I also try to go for something more hight end brands like Q Posket and Nendroid, for a difference of around 10ish to 20ish dollars with Fuck Pops, Q posket gives you more deatled and bigger figures with nicer stands comapred to Funko, and also the only plastic in the pakegeing is the plastic bag used to protect the pices the rest is made of cardboard. I went on a but of a tangent right there but I hope I got my point across. I know than there are other factors at play since especialy big comapnies are designed to make you want more, but I'm glad I have the self control to not fell in to that spiral.
@zzoa.
@zzoa. 2 жыл бұрын
Ooo this should be interesting!! I'm excited to watch your take Very entertaining 😊 you're right, if Rihanna cared even a little bit it would've been easy for her to yknow... Give a shit about the company or sustainability. The membership is soooo absolutely insane and sketchy lol So does this mean the makeup brand is bad as well? I bought their lip gloss recently 😦
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
idk about the makeup brand, I was under the impression that it was good, but while searching for the savage x fenty info, I found some scandals about Indian mica mining. tbh, I'm not entirely sure, maybe there are some well researched vids on KZbin that talk about it!
@zhisu2665
@zhisu2665 Жыл бұрын
people forget that Rihanna is no different to any other ultra-wealthy celebrity even if she grew up poor, she still profits off of low-pay labor and wouldn't look at you twice if you're not in her wealth-group.
@elenaalvre.3521
@elenaalvre.3521 2 жыл бұрын
Love the haircut, its my firts time here, and I've been waiting for someone to talk about this, because they let Riri do a lot of questionable things because of their fanaticism.
@eeep4968
@eeep4968 Жыл бұрын
At one point I had some interest in buying some items from savage x fenty due to seeing some cute pieces on people,but as soon as I learned that 1.) It was a subscription service, and 2.) All the items I was looking at were sold out. I said fuck it I don't need it and I'm so glad that I didn't go any further.
@arizonnah
@arizonnah 2 жыл бұрын
Amo tus videos!!!
@iasminaraujo7109
@iasminaraujo7109 2 жыл бұрын
You look so glamorous with short hair 😱😍👏🏼
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
thank you😭🥰
@LadyJae_
@LadyJae_ 2 жыл бұрын
The only issue I have with this video is that Savage X Fenty is not Luxury. To me Savage X was always promoted as something that was supposed to be high fashion but affordable.. that is not luxury
@jojomargaux9295
@jojomargaux9295 2 жыл бұрын
This is the sad truth. I line Rihanna but her savage X Fenty brand have become a whole Victoria secret all over again. Expensive prices for crappy Quality lingeries. Once these brands gets big and past that 3-5 yrs threshold of failure, they become so lazy z. MrsRihanna get it together
@stacey6112
@stacey6112 2 жыл бұрын
What lip makeup are you wearing here? It looks pretty.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
It’s a bit of a nude lipstick with the glossier red lipgloss on top!
@ratflail215
@ratflail215 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a male so it might not be the same but I only buy clothes that feel good. I don't give a single shit about perceived "luxury" or what it looks like.
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
yeah, that's a better way to decide what to buy. but if you shop online, sometime it's hard to gauge
@limpchees
@limpchees 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a female and though I do love beautiful clothes, I would never get something that isn't comfortable or worth the price.
@Nina-ur3ld
@Nina-ur3ld 2 жыл бұрын
Can you make a video about your opinion of the new season of winx fate?
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I’m working on it!🤍
@karolinakuc4783
@karolinakuc4783 Жыл бұрын
5:03 So her songs are about nothing. Have no meritorical value whatsoever
@mideuuuh2280
@mideuuuh2280 2 жыл бұрын
Winx season 8, do it
@isthatachicken
@isthatachicken 2 жыл бұрын
Oou that top is sauur cute
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
thank you hehe
@Devi_Seona
@Devi_Seona 2 жыл бұрын
I say it from the beginning Fenty are very cheap products, not better than drug store just very expensive, but all the riri fan girls attacked me like I was being racist or else. If it was quality product she wouldn’t be a billionaire today, it cost money to create quality. Her products are for poor people, you won’t see any women with money being her stuffs, same with the Kardashians.
@flora1496
@flora1496 2 жыл бұрын
OOP- I'm shocked, Rihanna is everything for me, I could just close my eyes and buy whatever she's selling... (Listen : I'm a slµt for Fenty Beauty, this is my favorite makeup line ever ! I have so many things from this, sometime I search one thing in the makeup store and left the store with a Fenty Beauty product because that's my Certificated Shit.) I have never bought something from SAVAGE x Fenty, because I prefer Versace for lingerie stuff, the esthetic of Fenty x Savage is ok, but not unique to me (so Versace is iconic for that) but I was thinking of buying something one day just because "it's something from Rihanna" but now that I know all of that I'm disapointed... the quality of Fenty Beauty is pure gold with very good prices, it's not expensive just because of the name, it is the price it is because it's hella good... so I thought Fenty x Savage would be the same... sadly it's not...
@nippin4997
@nippin4997 2 жыл бұрын
Fenty beauty is terrible for the skin look the ingredients in the products(their quality is always mediocre) it's wayyy to expensive for what it is I love FB too but there's better makeup line owned by black woman.
@cutesim99
@cutesim99 2 жыл бұрын
The “About” link is located in the sitemap at the bottom of the page.
@gisela_oliveira
@gisela_oliveira 2 жыл бұрын
I came to watch this video 4 days late, 'cause I was not that interested in the brand, but today a classmate in college presented as her research about inclusive brands (class was about ergonomic), and she talked a lot of positive things about the different body types. So I decided to check it out, lol
@kiuura
@kiuura 2 жыл бұрын
Out of topic but your butterfly top is so pretty 💫
@LisaFevral
@LisaFevral 2 жыл бұрын
thank you🥰🥰
@mattia51296
@mattia51296 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, very informative!!
@jkookie1964
@jkookie1964 2 жыл бұрын
I loveeeee Rihanna but when I saw the products thru the screen they look like cheap ass quality so I never bought any. Also the website looks cheap with no interest to put on it, sorry for the people that fell for it and actually buys anything she comes out with, I could never.
@ThePinkSage
@ThePinkSage 2 жыл бұрын
I was excited for savage x fenty in the beginning. But the garments aren’t great and fall apart real quickly especially the underwear. I don’t shop with them anymore just need to cancel the membership. Plus, most of it don’t fit me
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