The Incredible Story of Kickboxing in MMA

[@WonderboyMMA]

Very well done my friends!! Bravo! 👊🏼🙏🏻🥋

[@reedraikes7471]

How long would it take you to knock me out in the octagon

[@kingofheavymetal]

@@reedraikes7471 Probably the time to close out the distance and with his reach, probably quickly

[@reedraikes7471]

@@kingofheavymetal I'd say 45 seconds

[@kingofheavymetal]

@@reedraikes7471 Damn Wonderboy is nice but maybe not that nice

[@iandixon9675]

Any advice for my kid Steven.He,s 15 and got his first K1 fight in front of a big audience in a few weeks.Big respect from England 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿.

[@MMAOnPoint]

Keep in mind when we say kickboxing took over MMA, we mean much more than simply the championship fighters. A lot of the best coaches and megacamps of all time are kickboxers, presidents of top MMA organizations, etc. We explain this in detail in the video, but just want to give you all a heads up on it. 👊

[@waterlegend72]

The title of the video is wrong mate It should be the "evolution of kickboxing in MMA" Or it should be "How Kickboxing Shaped MMA"

[@Ashoukry227]

@@waterlegend72 bet you won't say that to my face tho ''mate''

[@waterlegend72]

@@Ashoukry227 of course I would 🤣 it's not an offensive thing at all. Why wouldnt I say it

[@babiree3842]

Create one on who deserves to be the GOAT OF MMA

[@picklecage5488]

@@Ashoukry227 why wouldn't he? This is not a offending statement and he is correct.

[@thispandaispurple]

Please do more deep dive videos like this. In my opinion this is where your channel really shines and stands out from the rest. Your team's commitment to thorough research and well laid out presentation is refreshing.

[@bonkgaming4796]

Love this channel

[@jaimeweezer6260]

Fo sho

[@colterwebb6382]

literally said the same thing about their videos of the history of japanese mma and its connections to catch wrestling. this is equally as fascinating

[@ROOSTER333]

Absolutely this

[@ryannorman8898]

The range in boxing is closer, which plays into a grapplers style. It’s easier to avoid takedowns if your a kickboxer and tend to strike from further away. That’s one of the many reasons I believe.

[@MrLuckybeast13]

@Wordsmith 430 A big reason calf kicks are so popular is its harder to catch and turn into a takedown

[@Tenchigumi]

Also, it's easy to lean into a head kick or expose your leg for low kicks if you're strictly a boxer, because defensively sound habits in boxing can be profoundly dangerous when kicks are allowed.

[@Skibidi4234]

@@MrLuckybeast13 yes look at khabib vs gaethje. Khabib who is or was the supreme grappler in the sport took many of gaethjes kicks before getting the timing down to shoot as gaethje was retracting his leg.

[@notproductiveproductions3504]

@wordsmith4305it’s easy to take a knee to the face if this is the deepest you’ll understand it

[@DADRB0B55]

@Wordsmith 430 It’s definitely not easy I haven’t seen a wrestler that isn’t actively competing in mma be able to do it, if they just only do wrestling then they’re just gonna cry and fall down like boxers do, leg catching kicks is a Muay thai technique.

[@MrDobbz69]

Student of the late great John Bluming here, Fantastic coverage of his legacy in the sport and seeing him being documented so well has made me feel very proud watching this video and I know many others that will feel the same way, Thank you Osu!

[@MoshJunkie426]

Kickboxing should be more popular here in the west, K1 Glory and ONE have had amazing events. On another note Bayliun was the perfect choice to narrate this one 👌

[@Bayliun]

Thanks dude! Worked my ass off on this one!

[@MoshJunkie426]

@@Bayliun I love the long form gives me a lot to listen to at work

[@OfficialGeoffreyTraylor]

Agreed!!

[@mrandyjeezy]

K-1 should've taken off in the USA but UFC captivated ppv and vha crowd..

[@SenseiSeth]

Man what a fantastic video

[@champ1159]

Topics like this make me wonder why kickboxing isn't more popular in the states

[@mynameisjoejoe]

I think ONE is about to change that

[@Richard-Espanol]

@Joe Kinney agreed, they've been putting on some amazing shows and have legit stars. Hopefully it's just a matter of time because those fighters desevere the recognition!

[@remyhavoc4463]

I can think of two major reasons 1. People prefer Cage>Ring and most kickboxing is done in the ring 2. Take down threat. This one's a little more personal. When I watch kickboxing after watching too much MMA, I always miss the threat of a takedown despite me hating wrestling in general 😂 That's why I think Karate Combat is the perfect promotion rn

[@Brandon-rb4sm]

@@remyhavoc4463 the popularity of boxing kinda throws out the liking cages more than rings.

[@novared103gaming3]

It's because boxing is the only combat sport Americans recognize popularly and they shun kicking because of some kind of mental block brought on by the idea that boxing isn't the hardest sport or even the most efficient one

[@thebrownbaldy]

MMA On Point is killing it with these deep dive videos. Enjoying how they're giving us a history lesson on these subjects.

[@KenOKeefeTJP]

As a documentary filmmaker and fighter I learned so much from this dive into Kickboxing with MMA On Point, what a great team you all have built. Produce quality content like this over and over, success is a matter of time. Love & Respect to the entire MMA On Point Team. TJP, Ken O'Keefe

[@Omimus]

I can Not good english, is Kickboxing now from Japan or USA ??

[@lobo_solo214]

This channel is so insanely consistent and this content really helps me to take my focus off the negative stuff going on.

[@lobo_solo214]

@Xassak_Xyad 👊🏼✌🏼

[@ilikepushrodv8s210]

I've been a watching this stuff for 25 years and remember when ISKA would come on ESPN2 and Muay Thai matches were a rare treat. I appreciate the history of the martial arts and combat sports. It's something that seems to be overlooked by many fight fans.

[@kbksindjelic]

By far the best, most comprehensive, most documented... video on the history of kickboxing sport. Literally every significant event, year, organization, tournament, fighter... development in Japan, Holland, America... connection with mma sport is explained This video is so comprehensive that it has to be watched several times. Thank you for creating this master piece🙏🏻

[@Bayliun]

🙏🏻

[@markwrenn5965]

Wow I had no idea many of these coaches and owners had these kickboxing credentials. Amazing. Great video man. So many knowledge gems in here. I could probably watch this ten times and still be gathering info.

[@sliderx1897]

Thank you for showcasing karate as a part of kickboxing history

[@richpoorworstbest4812]

Best video you guys have ever made. I've been a stand-up guy for 30 years and this is fairly spot on in terms of accuracy.

[@crescenciorocha2213]

Probably one of my most favorite if not my absolute favorite video yall have ever done..just wow. Thank you guys! My first Kickboxing/Muay Thai bout is this Saturday, this video really makes me appreciate the history of it all 🙏🏾

[@joemathewson4198]

Absolutely loving these documentary type videos you guys have been putting out. Solid stuff. I don’t get to watch fights much anymore cus I can’t stay up late enough cus of work. But it’s nice to keep up to date with everything on this channel as well. Love the content guys!

[@Richard-Espanol]

Amazing video! Learned a lot about this particular part of combat sports history and how it has influenced the fighters of today! I hope you guys continue to video essays like this in the future!

[@thesj5595]

Awesome video. I started Kickboxing when I was a kid in 1988. My father was a Full Contact fighter back in the 70's and 80's. He started Kickboxing and allowed me to train with him. I was 11 years old at the time. I grew up watching guys like Don the Dragon Wilson, Rick Roufus, and Dennis Alexio. While people wanted to be like Michael Jordan, I wanted to fight like those guys. I had my first fight at the age of 13 and I was hooked. I held on to my roots in Kickboxing when I started fighting in MMA. It makes me proud to see the history of the sport I love so much get some respect. Thank you for the video.

[@billstrangmeyer9129]

And not a mention of Ramon Dekkers, the Dutchman who was the first Westerner to beat a Thai champion.

[@mementomori8991]

He’s overrated. Look up Danny Bill.

[@MontCoRealtor]

@@mementomori8991 Overrated? Seriously??? The first Westerner to ever win fighter of the year in Thailand! Why is it that you have to put down one fighter in order to promote another? You do realize that there can be more than one incredible fighter in history, right? Not for nothing, but very few people have ever heard of Danny Bill. While the overwhelming majority of fighters have heard and watched Dekkers. I'd say legacy is a pretty good determining value on their impact to the sport. Next time show respect to all and maybe you can be taken seriously.

[@Toki52]

@@MontCoRealtor Westerner? Easterner??? Was he human? Dekkers was good, but apparently some think he's amazing because his skin color.

[@MontCoRealtor]

@@Toki52 A fight record of 186-33. Yeah, that was all skin color. Buakaw was 240-73. Hard to say Dekkers was all about skin color. What did all those people just lay down for him? He fought brilliantly and was respected for his heart. Stop being an ignorant racist

[@zerragut2969]

@@MontCoRealtor bill did beat dekkers though (all be it a slightly old and injured dekkers) but even if dekkers was In his prime I still think bill would win, because dekkers is way too 1 dimensional for someone like dany bill

[@c_rem6101]

Lovin' these documentary style videos lately

[@Camm0Blue]

I really appreciate these longer videos, really breaking things down with all this research. Honestly wild this is on youtube and not a paid service. Thank you guys!

[@ROOSTER333]

This is by far one of y'all's best videos. Sincerely an ex kickboxer/ fighter and new sub. Well done

[@Falkov]

This is the best thing I've watched in a while..filled in many gaps and greatly enhanced overall fullness and connectedness of my combat sport timeline impression.

[@lukeperry1928]

The reason kick-boxers transition more is because there is more money in MMA than kick-boxing. The reason boxers don’t transition is because there is more money in boxing than MMA.

[@rezaldi1419]

Why people not watch kickboxing?

[@JackyTMusic]

Personally speaking, it lacks the endurance element I like in other sports. 3 rounds at 3 mins each often doesn't scratch my itch and coming from a boxing/TKD background, I find the dilution (essential i know to make it amazing as it is) of the leg techniques due to boxing range, and vice versa, being threats means I find myself switching to boxing to watch the sweet science in a pure form. Not saying i dont appreciate nor enjoy sparring kickboxing sometimes, but because its a multi faceted martial sport, but one that doesnt go fully into MMA forms, I find it in no mans land as a viewer. Also, there is a cultural consideration id say too. When you say 'people' dont watch kickboxing, i assume you mean Americans more so. Kickboxing in Holland is a massive sport, yet yes viewership is still low even there. And obvs Thai land has Muay thai, im unsure how many people watch it casually there though. Australia and NZ have a thriving kickboxing scene but also low TV viewership. Its not even offered on our premium spprts services (even darts, curling etc are) due to lack of interest. So there are some pockets in the world where it is 'watched' at live events in bigger numbers than the US but yeah TV wise it still doesnt translate to numbers. MMA would isolate a lot of casual people too if the UFC didnt exist as a hype/persona machine; Bellator, OneFC dont draw the eyes. But the characters for casuals and for others more interested in the dynamics, I think MMA appeals as it isnt just a combination of two striking sports, but a whole puzzle of what the human mind and body can achieve. That's my take. Boxing or MMA watching weekly, but yeah something in between as a martial art form, esp with shorter matches, doesn't work for me as a viewer. :)

[@thedonofthsht76-58]

Only the very top of boxing make money. If you're on the undercard you actually make more in mma. Mma cards are usually full cards while boxing they only 1 fight sells the ppv

[@amx1820]

@@thedonofthsht76-58 true, if we take the highest paid top 50 MMA fighters and the top 50 boxers in 2022... I'll stop at that because the comparison is starting to get ridiculous but I think you know what I mean

[@jocoolshow]

@@rezaldi1419 No idea. I like boxing, full context Karate tournaments and kumite, kickboxing, and MMA, and I think Kickboxing can be the second most entertaining at its peak behind MMA, so the fact that it doesn’t get views while Boxing is so big is odd to me. And that’s no disrespect to boxing

[@stephdegoede8316]

This was absolutely brilliant. Looking forward to a similar doccie on Jiu Jitsu!

[@bilalsyed9641]

Incredibly captivating and well done, I would love to see more long format documentary type videos on the involvement of BJJ, wrestling and sambo in MMA

[@TheAlaskaMarc]

Amazing work, beautifully done. Would have liked to hear more about what was going on in Brazil in the 70s,80,90s as well, and how kyokushinkai fits in this as well. Loved the focus on dutch kickboxing's history.

[@corymcdonald1369]

Dude! This is one of the best videos I've ever seen period. I can't remember the last time I just sat down and watched a video this intently. More content like this please!

[@zohebalikhan7404]

Loved the research ad production that went into this mini-documentary. Truly a masterclass of professional content creation.

[@chrisbenoit7]

long historical videos like this one and the one regarding Japanese pro wrestling are by far my favorite videos on this channel, pls make more, i eat this shit up

[@joewire7368]

So damn good!! I've been an MMA fan for 25 years and have learned more from your videos than ANY other single source. Thank You for all your hard work.

[@kristp05]

Top notch stuff boys. These types of videos really make u stand out in the MMA content space.

[@sharamrock2580]

Your amazing documentaries are just becoming better and better on a regular basis

[@badbabybear1]

Kickboxing gives you more weapons (kicks, obviously, in particular) than mere boxing. The movement inherent in kickboxing, too, lends itself well to MMA...whether you're trying to close the gap or maintain distance. I've been training Muay Thai for about two years and it's an awesome style to learn.

[@douglasdbs7139]

Yes! And if you look closely, in the last decade or so almost all new technique that hyped in MMA came from the kickboxing department: front kick to the face, spinning back heel kick, spinning elbows, calf kicks, etc.

[@badbabybear1]

@@douglasdbs7139 calf kicks are one of my favorite techniques

[@kameronjones7139]

@@badbabybear1 very painful one at that

[@nickmuaythaiandfitness]

Rip Andy Hug 🙏🏼 big striking influence on me. Gone way too soon.

[@dattrax7]

Amazing doc. Thank you for your hard work. So cool the history that ties into Glory, the UFC, Bellator and MMA in general.

[@No_step_on_snake]

I find the history of martial arts so interesting. I wish there was an entire channel dedicated to that topic.

[@soxfantony773]

Sheesh. What a damn good video. This is one of my favorite youtube channels

[@lucyv]

II downloaded this as a podcast but had to come here for the visuals! Excellent to cover the complex history. Thank you.

[@JoshyManTheGreat]

Amazing piece. So many familiar faces that came from that era of kickboxing.

[@GrecoRoman123]

How Kickboxing Took Over MMA: They learned wrestling (takedown defense, scramble, keep the fight standing)

[@colterwebb6382]

so these deep historical dive videos have been excellent. ive learned so much about catch wrestling and the origins of modern grappling. this is a fascinating look into the origins of modern striking. great work as usual guys

[@alisalbulushi]

This is my one of my favourite videos in this channel ‼️

[@xInsanityx100]

This content is lovely. The deep dives into the history of MMA is so well done.

[@coachken6130]

Great documentary. I love getting more info on people I’m familiar with: Coker, Rufus, Mendez, etc. Idea: what makes a organization great? Why do some succeed while others fail? Is it pay? Competition? Fighter loyalty? Location/country? And what will things look like 30 years from now?

[@trowabarton101]

One of the best videos you guys have ever put out. Appreciate it. Bring back Fight Front tho.

[@rideoutmma]

Amazing video guys! I love talking about the importance of kickboxing in MMA. I think people are hung up on just muay thai, and forget about what key differences between KB and MT, that make Kickboxing so relevant in the cage.

[@kainonknestrick9202]

if you can mix Freestyle Kickboxing and Muay Thai it could compare to Dutch Kickboxing so that style of Kickboxing could fit perfect for MMA!

[@thedonofthsht76-58]

I love these full docs y'all are making!! Unbelievable!

[@tylerghostkeeper4062]

Man i've been waiting for a video of this kinda vid forever man thank you

[@cesarreyes8320]

What a great video full of history and knowledge. Thank you for this beautiful work

[@dougpetersen704]

Great video. I know these long form videos are a ton of work. Keep it up, you guys are crushing it.

[@oui9771]

Please more videos like this, and i rly appreciate if you go even more deep in topic. Love it, love you guys. Greetings from Poland

[@MultiAmbivalent]

This is the best video you guys have done. So informative and engaging. We’ll done Baylian and the boys 👍

[@phobowl]

Really nice videos. Great job linking all the different roots of modern MMA.

[@RyRobsonOfficial]

Watch all ur guys vids, love all the content, but this for me is one of the best. Would love to see more like this, keep delving into the history of martial arts chaps🙏

[@Bayliun]

🤗

[@timwoolmer592]

Incredible documentary. Well On point.

[@jimmywest2501]

Another excellent video on the history of combat sports! These types of videos are some of your best content. Well done.

[@KeptFaith]

Unfortunately, UFC Fight Pass does not include Glory Kickboxing anymore. I agree 💯👍 people should pay more attention to these athletes because look at Israel Adesanya, Alex Pereira, or even Alistair Overeem.

[@federalgodson]

Every fight starts on the feet. - a famous kickboxer said.

[@TheClinchMagazine]

I have to admit MMA On Point is in a league of its own when it comes to MMA content. And best thing about the content is that it is evergreen. Most of the content of this channel is not centered around a particular event. While other MMA gossip channels are easily replaceable, MMA on point has it own unique personality. And I like it. It's like the Netflix of MMA.

[@JudoChopCowboyKO]

Thanks for giving a shout out to Benny the Jet! My older brother had martial arts mags back in the day and Benny was the only one who seemed legit. BTW I wish UFC had started a K1 style organization instead of slapping.

[@NailsOeltjen]

Just. Awesome. So much great archival footage, and so so many surprises.

[@kieranmcdonald7273]

This is incredible work keep them coming 👏🏻

[@KING-KLOWDY]

Its not often i learn this much when watching a video about mma history. Wow I'm really blown away.

[@Mars-us1ru]

Awesome job guys! Thank you!

[@killio88]

Even shouting out Balmoral Lee Gar! That's when you know the research is legit, great work guys! Would love to see a similar documentary on New Zealand kickboxing!

[@Bayliun]

🙏

[@patmcgrowin3414]

Amazing documentary! Thank you!

[@neelheadley]

You guys just keep getting better. Keep up the good work.

[@BeReadySelfDefense]

This was awesome! Would've liked to see a little more connection to Kyokushin as Dutch KB, Seidokaikan, K1, and the Karate vs Thai tournament all tied directly to it, but other than this was great.

[@ynotefil]

MMA Right On Point 💯

[@jaredholland3563]

This was amazing work thank you

[@mitchstilborn]

Another fantastic video. Loving this kind of content from you, please keep up the good work!

[@kapgallery]

Dang, 30 minutes? You all are really put in the work over there at On Point.

[@unchilepicoso2502]

Love this channel...always learn something new!

[@davidlittle6338]

Love these new long form videos you guys have been putting out! Keep em coming

[@alemayehubogale7474]

I love a good fucking top 10 list but gaadamit this gave me chills. Please do more!

[@Brandnewshoes]

This was great. I really love these type of deep dive/history pieces.

[@winsalot84]

Old Jackie Chan movies are the shit. This video was amazing start to finish. DO MORE.

[@JDP000109]

This is so good. You guys keep getting better

[@Clyde_Ono]

Love the video guys but….seems there is one huge omission: KYOKUSHIN KARATE. The karate vs Muay Thai showdown in the 60s, full contact karate, Japanese kickboxing, Kazuo Ishii (the K1 founder) and I believe all the Dutch kickboxing founders all have Kyokushin roots or affiliation. Seems you covered everything else but hard to believe you missed this huge dot connection.

[@danielsherwood9055]

Should definitely do more in deep dive videos like this. I really enjoyed this one, keep up the great content thanks.

[@Supertoxie1]

This documentary series is great. Great idea making these.

[@carphucker2973]

I’d love to see this type of in depth look into the history of the other main disciplines in mma.

[@Sevvi79]

One of your best works and that is saying something. Well done! 🙌

[@shinigamieyes2600]

Great video! I love learning history of all combat sports/ martial arts. This was very well done and learned a lot

[@jaepusaloa2543]

Awesome body of work guys, thankyou so much!!!! 🙏💜👏 Beautiful 👌

[@matthewboone4084]

Absolutely tremendous! GOTTA do these for each individual martial art.

[@DaDaLFG]

This one definitely tied in a lot of hidden gems! Baylion finally hitting some deep pockets of Martial Arts history!! 🎉

[@jalenikezeue4114]

Awww Man! Kickboxing Change my life For The Better I always Watch Glory And K-1 👍🏿⭐️👍🏿

[@Joshua-uw7wm]

I've always been into kickboxing since I was 4 I can remember it, it and boxing and Muay Thai since 4. It was in a magazine my dad got me and I was hooked...1983 for reference

[@chendaddy]

The new longform content on this channel is 🔥

[@lenardregencia]

This Documentary about KB is On Point!

[@konservation6205]

This may be MMA On Point's best video yet. BZ.

[@lindersi]

Wow! Building ppl of culture here! Thank you very much for this amazing piece of information!

[@elmomma010]

Incredible deep dive. Keep up this content!

[@BooboosANDBloodshed_95]

This is a great double feature with Lawrence Kenshin's video on the subject.

[@SadoK82]

Excellent content, this is why I like following you guys. Good job, keep up the good work!

[@bonkgaming4796]

Amazing video as always! I love these documentary you guys are starting to do!