The INSANITY of DOTA 2's balance EPISODE 2: Showcase for League of Legends Players!

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@TheL1ch_
@TheL1ch_ Жыл бұрын
Love how tiny takes more time to hit enchantress than bloodseeker needs to doo a full circle around the map xD
@Mr_Fr34ky
@Mr_Fr34ky Жыл бұрын
This is why echo sabre is needed ☠️☠️☠️
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Echo saber kicks in after the first attack. The poor guy needs a moon shard!
@Mr_Fr34ky
@Mr_Fr34ky Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO 6 moon shards and one consumed moon shard to be exact.
@veil3756
@veil3756 Жыл бұрын
Tree throw from silver edge to break her passive or just agh skill her xd
@msgdeletdbymod4471
@msgdeletdbymod4471 Жыл бұрын
I thought you were exaggerating until I watched the scene. Hilarious!
@Neovipa
@Neovipa Жыл бұрын
The craziest thing about dota compared to league is how much better its practice tool is.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
soooo true!
@MrKrinkelz
@MrKrinkelz Жыл бұрын
It encourages players to discover more broken shit and patch it asap once reported but sometimes dota wont even patch it too lol
@saunorine
@saunorine Жыл бұрын
@@MrKrinkelz lol lets not forget when akali shroud worked under turrets for almost a full year
@beardyjesus4591
@beardyjesus4591 Жыл бұрын
​@@saunorine To be honest it wasn't even THAT broken, if she wasn't OP in challenger and pro they would probably didn't remove it. I am sure that 95% of players never saw anyone that could use this abilty well
@ricosuave_numero
@ricosuave_numero Жыл бұрын
you misspelled "the whole game" with "its practice tool"
@Mr_Fr34ky
@Mr_Fr34ky Жыл бұрын
Hard support: "I fear no man... But that thing..." *Agility stack Slark* "It scares me..."
@jhanwan8318
@jhanwan8318 Жыл бұрын
60 stack and 25 permanent and my carry still wants to fight
@Mr_Fr34ky
@Mr_Fr34ky Жыл бұрын
@@jhanwan8318 This is why break debuff is so good.
@ziadahmad2440
@ziadahmad2440 Жыл бұрын
But then u realize u are up against elder titan 💀💀💀
@WildlifeFAQ
@WildlifeFAQ Жыл бұрын
@@ziadahmad2440 ET will only remove the armor tho not the damage.
@ziadahmad2440
@ziadahmad2440 Жыл бұрын
@@WildlifeFAQ yea thats enough to kill him just have halbred and he is done for
@xin8992
@xin8992 Жыл бұрын
there's a saying among dota players. "nothing's broken if everything is broken."
@jeevieseverino3949
@jeevieseverino3949 Жыл бұрын
Unless its medusa with no nerfs with 65 percent winrate.
@mikelezhnin8601
@mikelezhnin8601 Жыл бұрын
also "everything can work"
@Inf1e
@Inf1e Жыл бұрын
@@jeevieseverino3949 I'm sorry, WHAT? She has been nerfed first day (still earned me a few easy games) and can be countered with quite a few heroes. Compare it to physical Ark (very difficult hero, you need to press Ctrl with right click) or Meepo (difficulty on this hero is nonexistent after Poof rework) which draws full enemy team attention to just neutralise them.
@xvoin2867
@xvoin2867 Жыл бұрын
One day... One day LoL players will see the most complex, the most universal hero, who can do LITERALLY anything and everything. RRRRubick the GRrrrand Magus!
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
RRRrrrrRRr---RRrrrRRr R rrR R, rr *proceeds to levitate enemy into orbit* Do you know this reference? Also, it's not LITERALLY anything, but close enough ;)
@abogmus8904
@abogmus8904 Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO wasn't there a time when morphling could morph into allies? what if Rubic stole that? then he truly could do everything (everything that is available in a set game that is)
@mikelezhnin8601
@mikelezhnin8601 Жыл бұрын
well lol has sylas and viego, both aren't quite the same, but can steal spells
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
@@abogmus8904 There's quite a few abilities that are marked as un-stealable, and also he cannot steal passives. Morphling's ult is one such unstealable ability.
@yarikyaryi
@yarikyaryi Жыл бұрын
@@mikelezhnin8601 don't even compare that to rubick, he is on whole different level.
@persies4397
@persies4397 Жыл бұрын
As a dota player these abilities/passives taken out of context are pretty funny. I also loved the transition at the start from "powerful" to a clip of bounty hunter 😂
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
@Tory-JJ
@Tory-JJ Жыл бұрын
He's top 3 for pos 4..
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi Жыл бұрын
@@Tory-JJ pretty good as a mid too.
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi Жыл бұрын
Jinada is such bullshit.
@nmc400
@nmc400 6 ай бұрын
He also went easy with invoker, didnt even show his combos that you gotta do to be good as him xd
@msgdeletdbymod4471
@msgdeletdbymod4471 Жыл бұрын
9:42 oh nice! my doom got his refresher at minute 30, let's see what huge impact he is going to have with it. *devours twice in a row*
@lunamoonfang2
@lunamoonfang2 Жыл бұрын
double devour and double midas, my boy did nothing wrong
@muhammadgharibaldy8064
@muhammadgharibaldy8064 Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of singsing ngl🤣🤣🤣
@foodluver7779
@foodluver7779 4 ай бұрын
@@lunamoonfang2 double devour became real xd
@svenkrules9855
@svenkrules9855 Жыл бұрын
As someone who plays both LoL and Dota 2, it's actually baffling how Dota 2 feels more balanced than League is considering every hero in DOTA 2 is considered to have a "broken/OP" ability/skill by LoL standard
@BruhMeme85
@BruhMeme85 Жыл бұрын
If everyone is broken nobody is broken Except for OD I don't care if you are weak in pro play fuck you in general
@ChadKakashi
@ChadKakashi Жыл бұрын
Since most spells are individually powerful a lot of ultis are just insane.
@jackolevious8308
@jackolevious8308 11 ай бұрын
if everything are broken, none is broken
@13YoJest13
@13YoJest13 10 ай бұрын
Dota feels more balanced because it doesn’t have individual damage ratios in every single hero like League does for every single one of its champs. (70 damage on Jhin doesn’t = 70 damage on Ashe) (70 damage on anyone in Dota is 70 damage) Also the fact that everyone in Dota uses mana (a few spells use hp) league has Mana, rage, energy, straight up no resource, cost at all just CD. Crits also don’t just add up like they do in league. Two items at 25% is 50% crit in league. Two items at 25% in Dota would technically be a 37.5% chance to crit not 50% (Dota uses actual real world math for chance calculations on Crits) This also just gives us more build diversity in general. Like 90% of ADC’s in league is Boots+5 crit items or Boots+4 crit items+ GA. (Yes there are other builds like lethality or AP versions instead of AD like Varus can do but none of that is even close to the diversity of Dota builds/roles.
@floreaciprian9742
@floreaciprian9742 6 ай бұрын
@@13YoJest13 itemization is one of the biggest differences between games. League has a lot of "useless" items. I mean the same item that does slightly different things, like zeal items, or lost chapter items and so on. Dota brings way more variety with items, especially how different and useful the actives are
@rakaboy1619
@rakaboy1619 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Especially love how you provide a counter for this stuff, so that it doesn't seem too OP. In my opinion video about comparing META and patches of both games would also be quite interesting, seeing how Dota frequently changes heroes around, while League tries to keep them the same, just adjusting numbers
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
I considered it, but couldn't get an easy way to see the league patches like you can for dota ones.
@youthzedd1337
@youthzedd1337 Жыл бұрын
Invoker is practically Mozart playing the piano. You skillfully let your fingers and the keyboard flow as you watch the beauty of his spells raining down😢
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
10 spell combos feel like fur elise. Spells and refresher scythe combos feel like Summer.
@Num201
@Num201 11 ай бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO you can also enjoy a life time of carpal tunnel syndrom
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 11 ай бұрын
@@Num201 Ha, i made this joke in my last vid!
@sovaovas
@sovaovas 10 ай бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO bro, i think you should include some of pros scene clips, so people can really understand what these heroes ability really capable, overall great video and thankyou for keep dota2 legacy alive
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 10 ай бұрын
Though I have considered that, it would be way too unfair to include pro clips, as it's only going to be one-sided. League doesn't offer any way to watch pro games through ingame client. @@sovaovas
@ioroid
@ioroid Жыл бұрын
Invoker finally here, the only mage who need to do chanting before use a skill. That's the price your have to pay for 10+ spell you can use.
@FoxSullivan
@FoxSullivan Жыл бұрын
Not to mention that in early game, invoker players end up trying to cast faster than the CD of invoke allows one to lmao
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
No there is another one, Phoenix from marvel super infinity wars also do same thing.
@Tey_TX
@Tey_TX Жыл бұрын
MEATBALL!
@Num201
@Num201 11 ай бұрын
the real price for having 10 spells to use is a life time of capral tunnel syndrom
@somehow_a_wizard
@somehow_a_wizard Жыл бұрын
Dota is free. All heroes are free to play, always. Its part of the game's balance. You only pay for hats if you want. The grass IS truly greener.
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
And guess what you not gonna use all of them, it's such a weird flex saying yeah dota hero is free but again you probably gonna use like what 5 at max.
@yuutootosaki4327
@yuutootosaki4327 Жыл бұрын
@@vo1ce147 i use all :)
@joao17771
@joao17771 Жыл бұрын
You're not gonna use all of them, because you don't want to, not because valve wants to get in your pockets even for the heros
@jeremiahtorrevillas4396
@jeremiahtorrevillas4396 Жыл бұрын
@@vo1ce147 maybe for a league its a weird flex Saying U need to work hard to get ur heroes lmao
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
@@jeremiahtorrevillas4396 like how hard we need to work anyway like I can just sit my ass off and buy anything anyway like blue essence at this point is like worth nothing, unless you are like really new new player even then it's not that hard.
@mikelezhnin8601
@mikelezhnin8601 Жыл бұрын
It's kinda funny how for dota 2 players most of this stuff looks normal (except enchantress, I think we can all agree it's complete bullshit) imho the real insane stuff for them is core WW/AA/willow/snapfire who shoot from the range similar to sniper and deal insane damage
@Inf1e
@Inf1e Жыл бұрын
WW is kinda broken (but still countered by default pos3 items), AA squishy af and should stay away from fight, Willow squisy as well (but still powerful and playable in some cases), Snap is just Snap. OK, Valve, you missed whole BAT point.
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
WW was good back when she still has that broken 50 dmg on LV 10, AA, willow and snap taking too long for online . And if you talking about bs it's not enchantress it's SB.
@dinmukhammednurbek6573
@dinmukhammednurbek6573 Жыл бұрын
Even the case with Enchantress and Tiny looks normal. 1. Tiny has himself attack speed less than an average hero. And in this example I guess Tiny had no items for increasing that attack speed. If he buys correct items, he can beat enchantress in significantly fewer seconds. So this is exaggerated case. 2. Enchantress has a great passive ability that slows down enemies, but she is still balanced with fewer health points. Tiny can easily kill her with magic, and in addition Tiny has two active skills that cause damage. In a real game Tiny is not going to stand there like a statue trying to beat her. He just throws Enchantress with his second skill and kill her.
@sunbro6998
@sunbro6998 Жыл бұрын
These kind of videos are beautoful in ahowing how wildy different each hero is , and just the teue depth (not fluff depth) of the game. Nothing like dota.
@SeiberGraffco
@SeiberGraffco Жыл бұрын
Ahh.. finally Invoker are mentioned on the vid. Im invoker mains, and i always impress other people who only plays LOL, Or Mobile legends with this hero when they brag their champs are “very hard to play”. So a good invoker combos are actually very simpler than you might u guys think. Just memorize their spell combo and you guys are good to go Normal combo : 1.Prepare TORNADO and EMP. (WWQ->R->W->R) 2. Use Tornado (now it come to the 2nd slot of invoked spells which is F key) -> immediately invoke Chaos Meteor (EEW->R)-> cast EMP (second slot of invoked spell which is F keys) -> cast chaos meteor (1st slot of invoked spell which is D keys) -> invoke Deafening Blast and use it immediately (QWE->R->F) Simplified key combos are : WWQ->R->W->R->F->EE->R->F->D->QWE->R->D There are alot of combo out tere but this is the combo y’all need for clash and solokill people.
@Delacrow_l_Chawngthu
@Delacrow_l_Chawngthu Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile Sniper just right click 😂. Occasional Q with R on running enemies.
@wiseland5052
@wiseland5052 5 ай бұрын
easier said than done💀
@SeiberGraffco
@SeiberGraffco 5 ай бұрын
lmao it is.. but i played dota and played invoker for the most part because this hero is just flexible. no counter but the counter is your skill usage and positioning since your cd is 30 sec long for hard CC's and escape. if you played him and understand the combo you can use him. not that hard to master except for unorthodox combos.
@RegMeow
@RegMeow Жыл бұрын
10:37, everytime I play LoL, I always forgot you can't break projectile tracking using "flash Summoner Spell" and wasting it
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
ME TOO
@jiaqishao4357
@jiaqishao4357 Жыл бұрын
I remember playing against Monkey King and thought it was fine since there was Wukong in league. I was not expecting lore accurate Wukong that claps me with a massive, almost undodgeable aoe stun that chunks me for half my hp at level 1.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
He is WAY more lore accurate in dota, than in League :D
@TANGENT-io4wk
@TANGENT-io4wk Жыл бұрын
These mechanics are precisely what I love about this game. And there are so many unique interactions in the game that people who have been playing it for 15+ years can still constantly find new things they've never seen before. I'm curious how it seems to other moba players though.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
totally!!
@k45racing
@k45racing Жыл бұрын
8 years of league and about 800 hours in smite and i just started dota 2 today. i can already tell its gonna be the same as going from diablo 3 to path of exile. there is so much more to learn and keep track of, but the game mechanically doesnt feel harder outside of needing to figure out rebinds because there is so many things to press. but unlike league as of the last 5 years, i am excited to learn something new, i just hope i can talk my friends into trying it as well.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
@@k45racing good luck! See you around
@TANGENT-io4wk
@TANGENT-io4wk Жыл бұрын
@@k45racing yeah, I agree the mechanics are easier than something like league because it's not as reliant on skill shots or timing. But as a tradeoff the positioning, vision battles, and macro level gameplay are harder in dota. It is very team reliant, even at the lower skill levels.
@mubarkqardas46
@mubarkqardas46 6 ай бұрын
My friend plays it as a league player i just play abaddon and try my best to not feed lol.
@VasiliyOgniov
@VasiliyOgniov Жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention that Crystal Maiden is a support. With a spell which literally deals highest amount of damage in the entire game (and I am serious - excluding infinitely scaling abilities like Echo Slam, Freezing Field have highest potential damage). And she isn't even really that good. Thinking about it, its quite common for supports out there to have some insanely painful skills (Earthshaker, WD, CM, Lion with aghs and probably more). I'm wondering how it compares to LoL Petition to make analogue for us, DotA folk, to see, is there any insane things in LoL. There must be, right?
@abogmus8904
@abogmus8904 Жыл бұрын
I WISH THERE WERE. I SO FUCKING WISH
@VasiliyOgniov
@VasiliyOgniov Жыл бұрын
@@abogmus8904 I mean, LoL is famous for heroes dying in two milliseconds, so there must be at least something
@jinnd319
@jinnd319 Жыл бұрын
Lol is more insane for the speed of the game. Less crazy mechanics more everything went off in a color explosion in like 4 seconds. Assassin's in lol 100-0 you in like 2-4 seconds unless you're on some sort of hyper tank.
@abogmus8904
@abogmus8904 Жыл бұрын
@@VasiliyOgniov what's crazy is the damage scaling on spells, and not the spells themselves. off the top of my head i can't name any "huge" impact spell. some may look very cool and flashy (Pantheon R for example), but do not do much at the end. most spells are either mobility, damage, slow (CC), sometimes a mix of all. but i'm not an avid LoL player (not big on DotA either), so I may be wrong (and most likely am)
@yarikyaryi
@yarikyaryi Жыл бұрын
​@@jinnd319you can be one shoted in dota too. But you can counter that with proper itemization.
@democracydemocracy8026
@democracydemocracy8026 Жыл бұрын
Additional note on Doom's ultimate (which is also called doom): Changes the game from 5v5 to 5v4. When upgraded with aghs, can possibly be 5v0. Actual effect: Deals pure damage (cannot be reduced by armor or magic resist, only damage resist.) over time for 16 seconds. Also silences and mutes (prevents item usage) target. Can be upgraded further via talent to also break and prevent passive shenanigans. Aghs makes it AOE and can cast on self to apply debuff radius on self. As a final FU, pierces spell immunity and dispels target. This can shut down a carry reliant on items and passive (Phantom Assasin), or prevent initiators (tidehunter/enigma) form doing their thing. Counter: Linkens sphere can block Doom unless he has a teammate or jungle creep ability to burn the sphere charge. Alternatively, lotus orb can reflect it to also apply doom on Doom. Part 3 mention nomination: Necrophos. Mechanic: Executes you when you are at 40% HP or lower. Also saps just under 3% (6% with another skill) of your health every second.
@iamguavafruitjr.8458
@iamguavafruitjr.8458 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the part where Necro also increases your death timer Have fun watching YT without Buyback in lategame if you die to that ult
@rayleigh8536
@rayleigh8536 Жыл бұрын
@@iamguavafruitjr.8458 that doesnt happen anymore sadly same with the doom it only silence you need the level 25 talent to mute items
@lorzahplays
@lorzahplays Жыл бұрын
you forgot mention zeus MECHANIC : stattik shiv on every attack
@Inf1e
@Inf1e Жыл бұрын
It's fairly new and mostly a meme, since Zeus no longer has %hp damage passive. You will be laughed at and punished for doing this.
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
​​@@Inf1ehe has it on his Q reading my guy reading like he deal same amount the problem is he same like enchantress and silencer three of them is intelligence character Here put his Q for ya Hurls a bolt of lightning that leaps through nearby enemy units. Cast Animation: 0.2+0.6 Bounce Distance: 500 Number of Bounces: 5/7/9/15 Bounce Interval: 0.25 Base Damage: 85/110/135/160 Current Health as Damage: 3%/4%/5%/6%
@annpyingshek4693
@annpyingshek4693 Жыл бұрын
Volibear has the same thing, this is not something out of ordinary
@oleksandrpopryshko7575
@oleksandrpopryshko7575 6 ай бұрын
@@annpyingshek4693 volibear needs to stuck passive in melle range, same time zeus 1 lvl > Nicola Tesla
@bahychairyhakim8535
@bahychairyhakim8535 Жыл бұрын
we need part 3 because a lot more hero need to be mention.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Perhaps!
@eggycarrot
@eggycarrot Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loved the Morphling part where the music synced 😆
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Almost nobody noticed I think :D
@slahser
@slahser Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO I definitely noticed! Props to that!
@vesplatdamaged6994
@vesplatdamaged6994 Жыл бұрын
a chaotic game of dota 2 makes you unable to appreciate the sound design for Naga ultimate
@Doflaminguard
@Doflaminguard Жыл бұрын
It just stops the game momentum and reset fights lol.
@twanto1139
@twanto1139 Жыл бұрын
patiently waiting for Rubick to show up.. mechanic: ctrl+c ctrl+v
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Potentially in episode 3
@Zestieee
@Zestieee Жыл бұрын
i was just thinking, you might do a comparison video about Mana between Dota 2 and League. i think it's something interesting to look into. mana is very important in Dota and you have to manage it carefully, whereas in League you pretty much never run out of mana from the mid game onwards. some Dota items have a mana cost, whereas in League they don't because not all characters _have_ mana. sounds really fascinating. i'm sure you'd do a great job at it
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Cool idea!
@attria4945
@attria4945 Жыл бұрын
Totally free hero no need to spend anything. If you want to look cool you can buy a hat item for Ursa for only $600
@Aleksandr_Tararin
@Aleksandr_Tararin Жыл бұрын
Love that "everything has counters" is about ITEMS that counter this stuff, not characters' abilities.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Thought characters counter stronger, I want to remind people that, even in a shitty draft, you can itemize better and be okay.
@VasiliyOgniov
@VasiliyOgniov Жыл бұрын
To be fair, items are much more important in that aspect, because if you need a whole-ass hero to counter something (i.e. "This thing can be countered ONLY by some specific ability from another hero"), that's just a bad design, in my humble opinion
@Aleksandr_Tararin
@Aleksandr_Tararin Жыл бұрын
@@VasiliyOgniov yeah, that's what I meant, cuz in league word "counter" usually means either any antiheal item, or a whole hero.
@VasiliyOgniov
@VasiliyOgniov Жыл бұрын
@@Aleksandr_Tararin lolwut? Sounds dumb, ngl
@haryok8940
@haryok8940 Жыл бұрын
​@@VasiliyOgniov You can counter with items, and its just hero will do it better, most of times with some item(most likely aghs). Like silver edge vs SD in terms of countering passives
@Coram.Deo.
@Coram.Deo. Жыл бұрын
My boy Arc Warden didn't even make it to part 2 😢
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
I refuse to cover him until the promised rework is out, which might be next month with 7.34
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
​@@TZAR_POTATOnext month 7.34 yeah surely surely it's come next month
@spacesheep5567
@spacesheep5567 9 ай бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO what about rubick
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 9 ай бұрын
@@spacesheep5567 what about him?
@Careb-Ree
@Careb-Ree Жыл бұрын
Tzar Potatoe explained how to counter pick against illusion hero's with Pugna. Guy is a goated coach with a great YT channel.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Ty ty!
@matthewchiayongxuan2251
@matthewchiayongxuan2251 Жыл бұрын
that morphling part was so well done with the volume
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
I hope you mean the pitch! Thanks :)
@studeogames
@studeogames Жыл бұрын
"If everyone's OP, no one's OP" -Valve, probably.
@kingsalver
@kingsalver Жыл бұрын
The thing about dota is that even everyone can be broken on certain things but It takes a good player to exploit Its advantages and to cover for its disadvantages....... And sometimes you just get a shit team and lose 🙂🙃 But yea awesome video Comrade Potato 😂 keep it up
@goldenmoses1517
@goldenmoses1517 Жыл бұрын
Awesome editing man actually made my fking morning 😂
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Hope you like my other vids as well!
@haasa2293
@haasa2293 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I will totally show this to my friends who play LoL....if I had those
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Go make some! Then show them the previous video first!
@calixtobrilliantes4435
@calixtobrilliantes4435 Жыл бұрын
"everything has counters" BUT... Those who know... the counters have counters.
@karenwang313
@karenwang313 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, league has its own broken stuff too, like master yi cleaning up entire teams WHILE INVISIBLE back when he built duskblade.
@xolotltolox7626
@xolotltolox7626 Жыл бұрын
Invoker may have 10 spells, but he still doesn't have a dash
@CwzG
@CwzG Жыл бұрын
you don't need the escape skill if you can kill the "cause" of the escape faster
@yarikyaryi
@yarikyaryi Жыл бұрын
He is fast enough without it. 3 spheres of wex give good speed + travels + blink + invis.
@saimmahmood5511
@saimmahmood5511 Жыл бұрын
Fair, but League doesn't have Blink Daggers and Force Staffs, so not every core/carry needs a "dash"
@xolotltolox7626
@xolotltolox7626 Жыл бұрын
@@saimmahmood5511 league has rocketbelt and galeforce, on top of everyone having a dash. Stridebreaker and Prowler's claw also used to have dashes until riot finally realised how broken those fundamentally were and removed them Here's hoping the other two get removed as well
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
Tornado blink ? Dude that hero have more than 20 million different way to escape.
@Joyexer
@Joyexer Жыл бұрын
To that ending sencence: No problem buddy, I come for you any day.
@chrysanthemummyy
@chrysanthemummyy Жыл бұрын
From playing together in pubs to this. Glad to see the grind, bruddah.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Hope you like my vids!
@chrysanthemummyy
@chrysanthemummyy Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO If i see you in pubs again, I'll tip your nightshady butt.
@panyarou
@panyarou Жыл бұрын
I have almost 3000 hours in dota and i'm learning new stuff from this video
@halfthetimeeverytime6603
@halfthetimeeverytime6603 Жыл бұрын
its so true every game i play with my friends i hear ‘god that hero is such bullshit’ at a minimum 2 times a game, and i love the game for it
@paperstars9078
@paperstars9078 Жыл бұрын
maybe top 10 counters next? like how dark seer with lvl 10 talent can create illusions that deal more damage than the actual hero? Is definetly a top 10 counter!
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
A counters comparison video is on my to-do
@arczuha9209
@arczuha9209 Жыл бұрын
trynda: I have the best unkillable skill kindred: No i have ???: amateurs trynda and kindred: What was that punk Dazzle: I said Amateurs Dazzle is the character that have the unkillable skill (excluding counters)
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Great meme reference!
@Mickeyb0ss
@Mickeyb0ss Жыл бұрын
not until axe is picked hahaha.
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
And there is axe.
@ponjun3970
@ponjun3970 Жыл бұрын
Old Patches were wilder. Enchanress' Impetus has higher damage, the further the enemy is. Modern Enchantress has limit on damage per distance. Old Enchantress has no limit on damage per distance. She was basically the real sniper. But can be countered with a mere blademail item(damage return) Modern Invoker has 10 spell combinations, but Old invoker (Dota 1) has 27 spell combinations. Only counter is the player's memorization skill. Old invoker probably got the fastest rework in all MOBA after their first debut.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Old invoker had that aoe flamethrower on taking damage though, forget the name, but it's the only spell you needed. Tank up, run at enemy, win game. Also tornado is basically unchanged from inception which is ... wow
@soulsfang
@soulsfang Жыл бұрын
now i have to go find out if episode one had techies...lol. Good video
@SplittingOfPrides
@SplittingOfPrides Жыл бұрын
Dota 2 balance is like rock paper scissors. So it's the perfect balance.
@PatrickSlingshotGuy
@PatrickSlingshotGuy 4 ай бұрын
3:02 Its even better as it steals int (I believe) Which means Silencer does more damage because of it, and if the enemy is an Int hero, they do less damage.
@lyl14ghost
@lyl14ghost Жыл бұрын
Everything really is countered by skill and experience, which is why you get stuck in one MMR if you just keep playing, it's very different line up and thought process in different MMRs. Which makes it really different to other competitive games I have played. There isn't really a meta because the meta will soon been replaced by the counter meta. TBH Clinkz is still fucking hard to balance after so many big patches just rework the character entirely. So is a lot of chars with long invis since really you don't win Dota by play better but by having more information on the map(vision).
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
No he actually easy the problem is clinkz still doesn't have any identity because the way he was build.
@imfinishedgrinding638
@imfinishedgrinding638 Жыл бұрын
Current Clinkz is very frustrating but I'd rather have that than burning barrage Clinkz. That shit was super annoying to face against once he gets his key items(Gleipnir usually).
@Dracomandriuthus
@Dracomandriuthus 4 ай бұрын
I just wish that Clinkz and other stealth heroes didn't ahve a binary "Blue ward/no blue ward" diff
@jeraldscarlet9493
@jeraldscarlet9493 Жыл бұрын
I've come alot! thank you for the show!
@RadialSeeker113
@RadialSeeker113 Жыл бұрын
Ill never get over how oonga boonga the names of heroes are in this game. Sniper. Lifestealer. Void assassin. Theyre all so devoid of any personality.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
That's just their professions. Nearly every dota hero has a profession name (and what people like referring to them as) and a propper name. Sniper = Kardel Sharpeye Lifestealer = N'aix Faceless Void = Darkterror
@abaxoth1488
@abaxoth1488 Жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or that music is from tinker pocket dimension from DoS2?
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
It is, well done!
@fadhilyudistira8819
@fadhilyudistira8819 Жыл бұрын
we dota players realize how broken blade of the ruined king is after getting ourselves mauled by lifestealer to death.
@ziadahmad2440
@ziadahmad2440 Жыл бұрын
Nice Video ya got urself a new subscriber Comrade Potato and continue with ur sequel of these videos ❤❤
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@ziadahmad2440
@ziadahmad2440 Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO thanks man 🤗 looking forward to ur new episode of insanity 😁😁
@dresean3725
@dresean3725 Жыл бұрын
I thiught Bloodseeker was sped up until i realized...
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Even though I put in a timer?
@ailfridha1135
@ailfridha1135 9 ай бұрын
The best / worst part is even the counter item can be countered too lmao
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 9 ай бұрын
Best, for sure.
@dwandererr
@dwandererr Жыл бұрын
Bro, i though bloodseeker movement speed was on 2x playback
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Even after I added the timer on screen? Really??
@25w-g6c
@25w-g6c Жыл бұрын
keep in mind that some "popular" counters arent usually good counter like many think earthshaker is the go to brood counter but he is actually so bad at countering brood
@Inf1e
@Inf1e Жыл бұрын
Brood is so weak, she douest even need a counter
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
​@@Inf1eman saying brood is weak surely something that hit you for like 600 per attack is considered weak
@gagass.s278
@gagass.s278 Жыл бұрын
Morp is the best counter for brood right
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
@@gagass.s278 Last patch yes any unversal hero get counterd by morp but they nerf it so ehh its alright due too agha not an instant win anymore
@I-Kurai
@I-Kurai Жыл бұрын
BRUh a vet dota player here and just saying if you keep that damn dazzle alive in clashes he will literally make a 10k gold lead look like nothing
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Dota's supports are insanely powerful compared to league ones.
@JuanCarlos-qr9gd
@JuanCarlos-qr9gd Жыл бұрын
I like that in Dota, armor is not that inflated, my lol friend told me "hey, i don't have much armor" and he had like 40 sth armor and when i made him look at the physical dmg reduction he had he just laughed a bit and kept playing
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
In league 1 point of armor is 1% who. In dota, it's 6%. League has the better system to understand at a glance, it's not about inflation.
@imfinishedgrinding638
@imfinishedgrinding638 Жыл бұрын
Armor in Dota loses its effectiveness the higher the amount. That does not mean its value gets worse over time otherwise Agility hard carry scaling heroes wouldn't dominate in the late game.
@TheInfectous
@TheInfectous Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO idk man, I think if you can't understand a log scale you might want to focus more on middle school than playing video games.
@HighLanderPonyYT
@HighLanderPonyYT Жыл бұрын
Noice! There were some typos. I'm a spellchecker for hire.
@Moker49
@Moker49 10 ай бұрын
really enjoyed both videos. good shit man! what was the outro song?
@Jyxero
@Jyxero Жыл бұрын
Can't tell why I feel Invoker (+10 year character) more balanced than stuff like Akshan with his 2/3 passives despite Kael's Q/W/E being basically that Still love to cosplay old Evenlyn + Sunfire armor with him thou
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Invoker is actually released in 2005, making him 18 years old!
@sayabingung
@sayabingung Жыл бұрын
you forgot bounty hunter's track
@cristhianmlr
@cristhianmlr Жыл бұрын
Nature's Profit: global TP + summoning the treants to war. Axe: Executes even when under Shallow Grave under a Treshhold. Io: global TP + steroid when tethered. Chen: fountain taxi. Keeper of the Light: Mana vendor machine + global taxi. Underlord: Portal. Oh and edit: Wraith King (and Undying): resurrection in battle.
@Lftarded
@Lftarded Жыл бұрын
@invokerhas10spells he literally never dies in a team fight. If a clash lasts at least 40 second, he'll be unstoppable because he probably stole at least 100+ strength by that time. He also has a heal.
@Caerulean
@Caerulean 10 ай бұрын
Chen no longer does the teleport to fountain. It's been a couple of years, I think.
@viggo9891
@viggo9891 11 ай бұрын
Nothing is broken when everything is broken
@BruhMeme85
@BruhMeme85 Жыл бұрын
Putting aa after life stealer is a very nice touch
@EliTheGleason
@EliTheGleason Жыл бұрын
Ayyy im in the vid 🎉 very excited for more!
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Oh are you the ember? Hope you don't mind ;)
@EliTheGleason
@EliTheGleason Жыл бұрын
@TZAR_POTATO oh lol no, I'm the first comment 😅
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
@@EliTheGleason ahhh haha!
@mucxlx
@mucxlx 24 күн бұрын
the counter to bloodseeker is just dont walk around with low life
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 24 күн бұрын
@@mucxlx truuue
@Monte_Carlo451
@Monte_Carlo451 Жыл бұрын
If we are talking pl dota 1 with dopplewalk, he can probably take care all the champion by himself
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
He has dopplewalk now in the shard.
@Monte_Carlo451
@Monte_Carlo451 Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO oh yeah! I forgot! Well, time for pl to terrorize dota 2 again
@Inf1e
@Inf1e Жыл бұрын
@@Monte_Carlo451 He is strong, but still in boundries of balance. No way near old PL. New PL plays around Spear with Aghs (3x damage, 3x illusions, 2.7x illusion from spear damage)
@vo1ce147
@vo1ce147 Жыл бұрын
Say hello to the shard .
@blasphemer_amon
@blasphemer_amon Жыл бұрын
No Shinra Tensei clip for radial deafening blast 😢
@Lftarded
@Lftarded Жыл бұрын
Earth spirit feels a lot like pein tbh, that guy pulls and pushes by gravity.
@manoi8
@manoi8 Жыл бұрын
I really thought you gonna show the full invoker combo (for extra showing off too)
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Did that in other vids
@practic4l349
@practic4l349 7 ай бұрын
2:00 Axe brings the AXE *dunk*
@AlexGuaikTV
@AlexGuaikTV Жыл бұрын
Everything is broken, but everything is counterable. That is beauty of Dota. and not easy to cast your spell, because u will get stun forever.
@Vivect
@Vivect Жыл бұрын
Invoker is a great hero for people who miss magicka game.
@Inf1e
@Inf1e Жыл бұрын
Came out way before first Magicka. Good game tho, even if buggy af.
@RuddenLyter
@RuddenLyter Жыл бұрын
you forgot bane's talent for cast range reduction
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
OH! Trueeee, I only showed level 1 heroes but you're right!
@nocturnalforsaken4519
@nocturnalforsaken4519 Жыл бұрын
that ES video funny bro keep it up.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@nmc400
@nmc400 6 ай бұрын
Ah silencer, the guy actively making the other team stupid.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 6 ай бұрын
I love the sound effect of his ultimate!
@AbyssalWatcher
@AbyssalWatcher Жыл бұрын
Honestly, league needs Acient Apparition because league's anti heals sucks 💀 Great video btw!!
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
I am a mid AA enjoyer myself!
@cloudynguyen6527
@cloudynguyen6527 Жыл бұрын
Considering AA has the most spam-able spells. I think he can fit well.
@Lftarded
@Lftarded Жыл бұрын
​@@cloudynguyen6527skywrath would fit league too well, very high dps and silence
@Judasdfg
@Judasdfg Жыл бұрын
Dude you are awesome! Great video
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@虎瀬野
@虎瀬野 Жыл бұрын
more about counter items, active items, etc... so many new things to learn...not playing this abt 7 years already
@Phoenix-zu6on
@Phoenix-zu6on Жыл бұрын
Doom: Mechanic: No
@Drelga99
@Drelga99 11 ай бұрын
Awesome video, part 3 please!
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 11 ай бұрын
eventually!
@BouncingTribbles
@BouncingTribbles 10 ай бұрын
I used to play DOTA 1, lol, this video has so much nostalgia
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 10 ай бұрын
You might enjoy my Dota Origins series :)
@scottjohnson3070
@scottjohnson3070 Жыл бұрын
ES mini fissure is hilarious 😂
@estebanthaddeus8170
@estebanthaddeus8170 Жыл бұрын
Might give Dota 2 A try again when first played the map didn't look like this or the graphics.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Do not play what you do not enjoy.
@o.colpus
@o.colpus Жыл бұрын
Really want to know which song/music plays from Enigma to the counters part.
@strygwr
@strygwr Жыл бұрын
Remember bloodseeker used to increase damage base on loss hp of enemy good old days
@nursetamaruf
@nursetamaruf Жыл бұрын
Bro dont forget axe dunk can kill dazzle and oracle😂
@doctoronishispsychosislab1474
@doctoronishispsychosislab1474 2 ай бұрын
The balance comes from team composition
@dscicon1236
@dscicon1236 Жыл бұрын
i know i am 3 weeks late, i got recommended thru on the side of a video, been enjoying it, but making me wanna try Dota 2 again, but i am super new, and tried dota 2 one time
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
I can help you out, join the discord and tag me. I wont be free until like monday though
@dscicon1236
@dscicon1236 Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO alright, i used to play league, but i quit around 4+ months ago though, so i am rusty on the mechanics
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
@@dscicon1236 np!
@Zocker_1st2k
@Zocker_1st2k Жыл бұрын
We have 04:42 in the night and i just found you now, as a lol player i downloade now Dota 2 and want to give it a try and maybe stick to it as a good alternative cos it seems pretty fun
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Sounds great! Join the discord, find a bunch of help there to get you started.
@Zocker_1st2k
@Zocker_1st2k Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO I just did thx u, i am really excited to look at dota 2 :3
@franciscoabad6379
@franciscoabad6379 Жыл бұрын
An entire other world, literally
@mickolesmana5899
@mickolesmana5899 Жыл бұрын
yey new video from Emperor Potato
@plusplusmaki7863
@plusplusmaki7863 10 ай бұрын
lol you forgot to pop the Ancient Apparition ult 😂
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO 10 ай бұрын
No I didn't. You can even see the projectile.
@therealdevcat
@therealdevcat Жыл бұрын
Gonna have to put this vidoe on the backburner because now I'm gonna rewatch Naruto.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
lol
@williamlord8064
@williamlord8064 Жыл бұрын
Great video, what is the song being played during the section on Doom?
@vcp009
@vcp009 Жыл бұрын
Now that you added counters it is better. Also Crystal maiden NEVER gets to use her full duration ult as she always gets stunned or killed through all that armor... because by the time you get bkb ebemt carry has enough items to kill you through the armor
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
Both of these videos have a counters section you know...
@vcp009
@vcp009 Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO This was the 2nd video I watched in your channel and binge watched all your videos in these 3 hours... Amazing work and editing. It was hilarious. Sorry I didn't realise the last video has counters too.
@TZAR_POTATO
@TZAR_POTATO Жыл бұрын
@@vcp009 :'( so many comment "bUt wHAt AboUt IteMs" ... Thanks for being a fan though!
@vcp009
@vcp009 Жыл бұрын
@@TZAR_POTATO Hahaa yes Dota frogs are obsessed with the items. But won't use to save an ally in a teamfight. XD
@cowsgobob3518
@cowsgobob3518 Жыл бұрын
TBH, I really think most League players would like Dota if they didn't have the knowledge barrier stopping them. Turbo was also a game changer for me, I prefer the team-brawling insanity of Turbo to just about any other Moba atm.
@danilbalabanov6490
@danilbalabanov6490 Жыл бұрын
Try explaining Chen gameplay. I bet it will take longer then this video
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