The Job of A Sequel - God of War Ragnarok

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Make sure to watch till the end cuz there are some final thoughts that i had, If you're interested. Thank you.

[@Theboxofwar]

Will you do a no spoiler review?

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

@@Theboxofwar no

[@Theboxofwar]

@@ExtremeGameplays1 ok

[@fernosbonos5394]

also the spear is a spiritual successor of the arms of sparta

[@DelTunk]

@@fernosbonos5394 why would it be?

[@muhammadhuzaifa2625]

This was the best critique/review I heard about the game. Didn't ride the devs but also didn't coint off the GOOD things they did. 10/10 review

[@Ruskot2008]

7:03 "he has a long spear and he knows how to use it" this can be demonstrated with aphrodite.

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Bruh

[@tortellium3750]

She didn't get it first hand tho. Lissandra still got the best di-

[@RonaldMcreepy]

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

[@emmyjr1231]

i appreciate that you're not tip toeing around your opinions. Especially the flaws. That's how we get a better game. Voicing our opinions as long time fans in a respectful manner. I do like Angraboda though.

[@io8806]

I actually almost always lower every volume to 60-70% except the music volume in pretty much every game. Music is undeniably one of the most important factors to get you immersed in the game and yet the default volume is usually a lot quieter than it needs to be.

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

I learned from this game to do what you do

[@Don2006]

The realm between realms is effectively a loading screen. I usually use that time to go through the pause menu to check gear, upgrades, etc. Door loads when the game is ready whether you paused it or not

[@Dlord1PlayStation]

I think his point was that you have to run to the portal everything you want to fast travel and there are so few of them. So even though the ps5s loading time is nearly instant, you still have to spend about 5 minutes traversing to a portal just to go to another realm...then about another 5 minutes going to the location in the next realm that you want. It made finding all of the collectibles to get the platinum trophy incredibly boring. And it also wasn't spawning enemies to make the mandatory traversal interesting.

[@HispanicGuy-_-]

R.I.P Brok 2018-2022

[@baki6729]

Probably my favorite god of war ragnarok review writing and editing are just too good

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Thank you so much man

[@azsa3705]

The back seating during the Nidhogg fights was insane lmfao. It kinda made it funny to me

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Freya was about to come outta the screen and slap me 😂

[@bobross9370]

27:33 Pretty sure they answered this, in GOW4 Kratos says "When I came to these shores" implying he came by boat. SPOILERS At the end of Ragnarok he opens a mural where it shows him sailing from Greece to Scandonavia

[@bydlakbolszewik847]

ok but who blew the horn

[@Dctctx]

@@bydlakbolszewik847 this joke is old and overused.

[@vitorgouveia5378]

@@bydlakbolszewik847 bro, kratos blew the horn, it can be heard over all the realms and time

[@D1smantle]

The theory that the pantheons are separated geographically poses some questions. I mean, why isn't the world serpent seen in Greece, or why hasn't Poseidon's flood reached Midgard, or the sun disappearing when Helios died? You see, alot of questions rises

[@jeremybabin7435]

@@D1smantle ive always kind of pictured of it like a Wakanda situation from Marvel, or like, Camp Half Blood from the Percy Jackson series. You cross a certain boundary and what you see from the outside is different than what is within.

[@turanyaqublu7846]

I know a lot of people hated all Atreus sections but I thought they did really well with the first one where you go to Freya. Also HUGE kudos to the dev team to actually make Atreus's combat interesting, to the point where fighting an actual big boss felt good. I do agree that the Ironwood section was WAAAYYY too boring

[@thatsaweirdone]

I really loved how you mentioned it. Games nowadays are really really trying their hardest to be movies than games, and as soon as I comprehended the idea, I have hated it. 2018's walking sections I can manage, but I sure as hell am skipping Atreus sections

[@demonNthesn0w]

Atreus sections wasn’t bad

[@thatsaweirdone]

It seems like I'm being misunderstood. I have no problem with Atreus sections being a part of the game. All I'm saying is that my goal is to get good at Kratos first and foremost, and the Atreus sections hinder in that goal

[@thatsaweirdone]

@Noob7Zilla yeah that'd be good

[@thatsaweirdone]

@Noob7Zilla yeah, makes sense

[@blackvalio4060]

​@@demonNthesn0w they were garbage

[@gachafiedstreams]

Man that angraboda section had me fucking snoozing

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

It had me trippin

[@Homer___Simpson]

It was sooooooo dragged out. I was like "we're STILL GOING??"

[@bydlakbolszewik847]

Fr they need to add a "skip atreus section" option like yesterday. Even on PS4 I'd rather have a 10 minute loading screen than 5 hours of walkie talkies

[@mr.marvin]

Probably the worst part of the entire game. Its worse when you replay the game again for NG+

[@batrol6687]

I agree with everything you said. I love this game. Better story, better side quests, more fluid combat, bigger variety of enemies and bosses, more references to the old games (man, I almost cried when he finally mentioned Calliope). The one thing I hate are the nornir chests. They can be frustrating to open cause it takes me a lot of time to find all 3 of those things or to break them in time.

[@Jamal01223]

The sons path ost is so good hopefully it plays during goty

[@axurios7706]

Kratos gow2: solving every shit by himself Kratos ragnarok: hiding behind skirts of Athena

[@SirToaster9330]

Wait, where is Athena?

[@allgaming9737]

IDK if it's just me but the second boss fight with Thor and Odin had much more potential. I wouldn't change anything about the outcomes or how they played but we could've got something better and bigger. Imagine fighting Thor while riding Jormungadr, he hits the snake, sending him to the past while you fall in front of Odin's house and do the rest of the boss like in the original version. Also in Odin's boss fight, he could've used his ravens to go to different realms while still midfight. Another thing that I thought was rushed was the uniting of the realms to fight Odin. We could've gone to each realm and done it ourselves while helping the characters that went to the respective realms, going to Helheim with Hildisvini and fighting some monsters before the crow accepts to join us, to Alfheim with Freyr and help him unite the dark and light elves, with Freya to find the Valkyries( maybe they were captured and we would have to release them idk). The last thing I wish there was is a post-credit scene where Kratos wakes up and Athena is inside his house, no lines, no nothing cutting to black.

[@foidly]

you can blame thor for sending snake back in time and then taking kratos to 1v1 somewhere els

[@enol1466]

1.) It's been hinted Baldur blew the horn like 100 times 2.) Kratos sailed to the Norse lands. pretty sure they're all connected in this universe Now on to the rest. I am an aspiring writer and story teller, story telling and stories in general are a big focus in my life. I care way more about story than I do gameplay. However, gameplay is still a huge part of my enjoyment for this franchise, and I played GOW 4 for the first time only 4-5 months before its NG plus update. I see now what people have issues with. The non skippable cutscenes, the Angrboda sections, the walk talkies. See I didn't much mind walky talkies until this game cuz this game is way longer. I don't dislike Angrboda, I just think she's very whatever. The main narrative for this game is strong, a lot of passion went into this game. I teared up at least 3 times towards the back half of the story, I wanted more even after the game had ended. Surtrs trials and boss rush in particular is loads of fun, so is Gna as a fight. Thor fight was spectacular as well and so was his character, same goes for Odin. They really make you want to beat his shit in (which you do!) the game also sets up for some exciting spin off/sequel stuff. All this said, Sony santamonica does not care enough about all the shit that fucks this game up. I can't skip cutscenes, they made Atrues playable, gave him a whole skill tree....and then by the end of the story he's gone so....why? what's the point? I don't wanna learn a new character if he's just gonna go tf away. New game plus needs to fix alot. I see Cory Barlog cracking jokes on Twitter and Sony talking about their gratitude and blah blah but I don't hear anything about the game being improved and all this slow slow wally talky cuts ends nonsense being fixed. Ragnorok must be better. I'll keep playing the game of course but if the updates don't start fixing it I may only return to the game for the story and combat challenges.

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Thank you for your understanding. Even tho the story is top notch. That doesn't mean they should ignore the tedium in the game and keep it. This is a 30 hour long game.

[@justaayan2]

@@ExtremeGameplays1 30? I did it in 20. It was probably the adrenaline for finishing it in 2 days before my school tests lol

[@maiqtheliar3502]

Hinted is different from what actually happened, and like extreme said they never actually show in the game how kratos got to the norse lands so no, no one is sure how the pantheons are geographically separated from each other. I personally did not like this game, it tries too much to be like a blockbuster movie appeasing to casual players to make money; players who pay $60 just to play the game once. The game has too many cutscenes and the walking and talking scenes were handled better in 2018 since the only time when you’re not doing much is when you’re on the boat, however they knew this would be boring and they added mimir’s stories which were very entertaining because even after finishing the game 10 times there’s still new lore to get. In ragnarok the story is just all over the place, too many characters introduced with little screen time making they’re existence not very important like Freyr, I did not really care that he died because I don’t know too much about him and his personality was just generic. Atreus Was also handled poorly instead of making his powers more similar to his father he just turns into an animal even though I do like that he can speak the language of the giants. Thor was very underwhelming, hearing Mimir’s stories made thor sound like a vicious and prideful murderer instead we got a fat, depressed alcoholic that I felt no sympathy for. Yea Odin turned him this way but thor literally killed most giants who were innocent if he really cared he could have stood up to his father or at least explain why he didn’t obviously they couldn’t fill you on the details of his redemption arc because he does not have a full story revolving around him so I’d rather have the villain that Cory established not what Eric change him to. Atreus was also a brat in this game he basically dragged his father into a war out of his need to avenge the giants; seems like kratos should have been stricter. Also in battle when kratos tells Atreus to feel for the innocent, this quote does the world no good because they literally destroyed Asgard, now if they had a boss fight where we literally have to defeat ragnarok to spare Asgard and then kill Odin now that would make this story good because it would show the lengths kratos would go to save a realm instead of destroying one while also undoing he son’s mistake. Lastly the mask plot was stupid you spend 3 boring quests as Atreus to piece it together and we don’t even get a glimpse of its power, secondly if this mask was so powerful why did mimir never mention it in the 2018 game ?!?Because it was introduced later in the game to build tension so it was literally pulled out of the writer’s ass. Personally I think that for these reasons the story was not written well

[@ElAlexis5679]

4:35 I just found out about this and my jaw absolutely dropped!

[@lLovfood]

This had amazing edits, thank you for taking so much time to do this for everyone.

[@turanyaqublu7846]

this was such a good game in so many ways: much better puzzles, some of the best ones in the franchise I would say, albeit the hinting ruins it but I hope they fix that in a future patch, incredible combat design, they backed away from the RPG stuff a little bit, all the realms are beautiful, etc. but most of all, I love the fact that you can tell clearly the devs have listened to the player base. The story is great, the characters are written very well, and most importantly, they took risks, and as a God of War fan, that is the main thing. I'm sad to see so many people out there do not see the beauty of this game and how much time has been put into it just because they were expecting too much, or it's not what they specifically wanted (obviously there are a lot of valid criticisms that I also have but that's not what I'm talking about). Also I had a question for you: I know you hate color coded enemy design, so I was wondering what you thought about how they handled it here (instead of "you have to use a specific weapon for specific enemies", now it's "some enemies get a small extra health bar that you have to take down with a specific weapon, after that you can go to town with whatever you want")

[@YEY0806]

What you described at the end is still colour-coded design, it is just more tedium that lengthens fights so still an issue.

[@AlexTheDominator1453]

I stopped reading at puzzles. If you believe your crap go to a crazydoc

[@koopzisabadass._.8678]

I played the game since wednesdsy last week and when i finally beat it i was so happy and stuff until i found out there wasnt any new game plus. I agree with your arguments about what could be done to improve the game because i am NOT going to start another playthrough with no gear and upgrades that i became accustomed to in post game. So im kinda glad i saved the side stuff for the post game, gonna be playing it very slowly until they do something about it

[@MR_HAYS1]

I know you mostly do God of War videos but your reviews are better than any of the popular video game journalists out there. They're so in depth and you managed to fit so much into a 35 minute video with great editing and talking about big things and little things.

[@June28July]

Story is nice but GamePlay is KING!

[@enol1466]

More of a story guy myself but for longevity sake, gameplay takes it

[@emmyjr1231]

facts. putting story over gameplay, you might as weĺl make a movie or tv show.

[@rancersweirdness]

They're both king, ragnaroks story is one of the best I've seen in quite some time and the gameplay is a way better version of 2018s

[@IDontLikeShitIDontGoOutside8]

@@emmyjr1231 I liked the last 2 gows for feeling like a movie you get to play and be a part of, I agree with skipping some of the story parts for ng+ sake tho

[@aginor6487]

Its not a movie, its a game. Its good to have that cinematic feel, but too much of anything is bad.

[@thegeekartistt]

agree with every word, I finished it and still waiting for the ng+ update just so I don't loose all the things I've collected in my walk through. There is some decisions from some characters are not very suitable for them, as an example thor's wife in the beginning she hated atreus and at the end she defended him and ask her daughter to go with him, and Odin he's just a complete stupid at the end, gambling on Atreus's choice?! He literally knew all there plans. Maybe I'm missing something i had to play it again maybe to see why those characters done what they've done

[@Mr_Rykes]

This game would be flawless with a “remove tool tips” option. Not only will Atreus shut up, but it should also get rid of the “parry that attack!” “You’ve got bifrost on you!” “You’re on fire” any of those.

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

I've been playing with dialog turned off for the past few months. Much better.

[@MariusBoss11458]

27 Minutes in. I understand your critics. Don't blame you for em. Lemme say my piece real quick. I fucking love music. And what you said about "You couldn't hear em" bruh. Resident Evil 2 Remake had the EXACT same problem! The Soundtrack is really forgettable except maybe a song or 2. (The Escape theme and the Super Tyrant theme for me. Oh and Mr. X's Chase theme of course.) The songs are really great but them not being loud enough ruins it. I really hope games fix this issue. Bruh I could NOT hear Odin's Boss Theme at all.

[@johnreed4786]

Another name for Draupnir is The Dripper. Kratos - Possessor of the Drip.

[@ikervega0116]

Hey Zesty when you talk about a skip x section of game without manual saves and skip the walking sections i think that it would be good if they added a feature like (i know this game is nothing like GOW) Uncharted 4 had option that lets not have to replay an entire section of the game and straight lets you select an encounter with enemies that happened in a specific section of the story

[@zms92]

why on earth this vide is still have 3.5k views only????? it is just like the game itself, a masterpiece, thanks for the combat tibs bro.

[@AmanS-hf6qx]

IGN get some notes this is how review made . bro love this

[@eu7059]

EDIT: there might be spoilers ahead, go with your own risk When I played the section in jotunheim I thought “ok this section is way too big and we can’t even do something else”. I honestly really liked it, personally, but simply because I can get engaged only by a good story. But I knew this would be way too boring and slow for most of the playerbase, really think it was a mistake. Also, am I the only one who felt the runic attacks and rage were completely useless on this game? (I played on hard btw) it feels like they saw the complaining on how they were too strong in the last game and made them so nerfed to the point where you do way more damage with way less risk by simply smashing with your weapon. And about the story, I saw people saying it was just perfect, and other people saying it was too rushed. I disagree, I think it should be more polished and have less “edgy” moments just for the sake of it. Still a lot of strong moments tho, but something that made me almost angry is how the motivation for Kratos to go to war was vengeance. He had all the motives in the world to fight, but the writers decided to focus on the one that basically destroyed all his arc on the last 7 games. I can’t be the only one who noticed this, right? Anyway, solid review, the best I’ve seen so far, as I’ve only watched a few from popular youtubers who have the critique abilities of a cow. Hope to see more from you in the future

[@eu7059]

@Isrel156 I literally said that the war made sense and he had tons of motivations to go to war (as you pointed). And I can’t elaborate on why he would chose vengeance as a motive to go to war because it literally does not exist. Yet everytime he talks about it on the end game is about revenge. And even if you say it is not HIS motivation, but a way to incentivize everyone else, it still contradicts everything he did with baldur, atreus, freya and probably other side characters. It is weak, lazy, and the writers could have set up any other reason or dialogue for him to move his soldiers forward, but as I’ve said they chose to go with the worst one because I guess we talked a lot about vengeance this game and it would lead to a cool edgy moment at the end so why not

[@PGM_EGG]

32:09 I'm so glad someone FINALLY said that

[@Garfieldloveslasagna420]

I love hearing him ramble about the combat in this game

[@Γιώργος-ε3τ]

I think the section where you travel through the real doors is to give you something to do while the area you want to go to loads

[@boredomoverload8236]

The walkey talkeys are understandable though,I understand why people would hate them especially if they’re the kind of people who massively value gameplay over story and just want to kill things already,but if walkey talkeys turned into cutscenes,they would be too exposition heavy,too long and too expensive,cutscenes in AAA aren’t free to make also it would be game breaking,imagine getting into a cutscene every time a character starts a conversation,it’ll make the game run harder and it’s just not worth it,personally I replayed the game 3 times and they didn’t bother me because I enjoy the story,I enjoy the characters interacting,the one that is a bit too much is iron wood,but other than that it’s fine, Also Santa Monica did listen to a lot of complaints,the most vocal critiques they did listen to,they added more bosses,more variety,more places to explore,more weapons,more enemy variety,better rpg mechanics,less trolls,that shows they do listen,but they can’t just make every walkey talkey To a cutscene,then it would actually be a movie more than a game

[@creeperYT9824]

They should have just set it so that the character automatically moves (disable ot enable this in settings) and you can skip it

[@D1smantle]

Takeaway from this video: the game is phenomenally fantastic, but then there are walkie-talkies

[@minecraftotalwar]

Imagine having depth in the combat system, like the old games

[@poketrainerrandy5960]

The combat system is fine honestly maybe not as great and polished as the previous games but it is still pretty great My biggest issue is that gameplay has been sidelined by the story, not to say that story isn't important but gameplay should be important as well not to mention that the game has horrible replay value with all the walk talk sections and the lack of new-game+ If santa monica had fixed these issues then this would probably be game of the year but tbh even with that elden ring will still be slightly better

[@bobby495]

Note: Contains slight spoilers for those who haven’t completed the game >Annoying stuff Puzzle aspect being spoiled by characters is too true I was very disappointed I even looked in the options and put my time to extended+ before they meant to give a hint yet it seemed it didn’t matter. It could be once the game realised you have essentially solved it they would say the dialogue but it still felt annoying to be told the solution to a puzzle as I completed it as it still felt somewhat insulting that they think their players are brain dead. Similar case being when getting a status effect applied to you the person with you would say some dialogue to let you know. And follow it up with ‘You probably already knew that’ Mostly remember it with Atreus/Loki but could be me just choosing to ignore others. >Personal dislikes Aside from annoying dialogue one thing I disliked was the indicators for off screen enemies as unlike the old one or at least I never had a problem with it in the old one. Is that whenever the game realises the enemy is starting an attack (recognising code for an enemy attack is running) the indicator would flash. This led to many of my deaths on my GMGOW challenge run. One small problem was enemies being unable to miss attacks the amount of enemies that start up an attack that seems it may miss just to turn into sonic and travel around the world at the speed of light just to hit you. Especially when they got blocked by geometry they would fully just be warped towards you (Most easily seen by Wyvern grab attack).Also I did a NUR no crafting run and it seems upgrading weapons means literally nothing for damage it’s just pure stats which was kind of disappointing. Probably true for 2018 but never did a challenge run on it. Also if anyone replies I probably will reply but you may not see it cuz KZbin still hates me for some reason :( has happened other vids I commented on and tried replying to others . Edit: never expanded upon early indicator being bad. I would end up rolling/dodging before the enemy even winded up the attack at times which would lead to me being like oh I dodged early and I would dodge again a little after to get tagged/killed right after my second dodge as it would be poorly timed dodges. Also the quick turn feels a little awkward to do at least for me as I usually want to use it to turn around and react accordingly but in this it’s mostly encourages using it as a last second attempt to block an attack (I do realise I can just use it to turn and unblock but it just feels slow in my opinion as you have to stop what you are doing to even use it really). I also agree music wise only song I remember hearing during a fight was the Valkyrie theme when fighting the two Valkyries (Probably best boss fight IMO but sadly has some small flaws).

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

>off screen indicators They're sadly the only option the game has to warn you (other than sound cues). >quick turn It also for some reason does not slow down time for you to react to your 6 o'clock. In gow4 it would slow down time and you would have some decision making, you either could dodge or block. Not here i guess. >enemies sliding around the arena I hate it. A lot of times during my walkthrough yesterday, i was waiting for the enemy to attack and to somehow bait him so that i can punish him. LITERALLY can't do that. If he's outta range he somehow slides near you and hits you. Sucks. Giving the enemies spiderman thugs type reaches.

[@bobby495]

@@ExtremeGameplays1 >off screen indicators only option Which is why the fact them being kinda bad is even worse >Spider man thugs reach Too true. I normally wouldn’t mind slight problems like this but with a difficulty as unforgiving as give me god of war where 2-3 hits sometimes less can be the end of you these seemingly small problems become rather frustrating. I genuinely believe at times they didn’t even play test the hardest diff not sure if the extra aggression on enemies is true (as it is something I heard and haven’t played on lower diffs to confirm and enemies did feel a little bit too aggressive in my time playing) or not but if it is this added aggression in certain fights makes them so tedious. If against two enemies which are unfazed by your general melee attacks you can only get one or two hits in before being essentially forced to retreat. You can be aggressive and not back off but you put yourself at mostly unnecessary risk of dying. And I hate the AI in the bigger arenas if the game realises you are kind of far from some enemies. If they where originally engaged in a fight with the person with you they would decide to focus purely on you so relocating yourself or moving to a platform to take out an enemy would put you in bad situations rather than help.

[@Ouskii]

15:50 this part killed me, I swear you're the best god of war youtuber miatafa, best review I swear 🔥🔥🔥

[@javiusrobinson589]

Ik this is months old but the lack of gameplay compared to the cutscenes dat is 7hours combined wit no gameplay is a big problem alone

[@doctormahrio5226]

That intro got me chuckling instantly when i understood it.

[@muhammadhuzaifa2625]

One thing I wanna say is that these issue that you talked about aren't SOOOO HUGE that it makes the game unplayable. It takes like 1 point of from the game which still makes it a 9/10 for me.

[@mabelhqprogamer4791]

Really good review my friend, you pretty much nailed it when it comes to the high and lows of this game

[@shabranakbar]

Your review is more way better then game journalist

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Thanks shabran :)

[@shabranakbar]

@@ExtremeGameplays1 yeah i feel grateful to man, i'm 100% agree with everything you say, and i feel lot of people should watching this video

[@bydlakbolszewik847]

It's almost like Zesty actually put effort into his review unlike the game journalists

[@lightmohamed5700]

@@shabranakbar**grateful to you** **I 100% agree with everything you said** **and I feel like a lot of people should watch this video**

[@lightmohamed5700]

@@bydlakbolszewik847 because he did that’s zesty we’re talking about he’s not baised

[@mashymyre]

It should have a chapter and encounter select, and have skippable cutscenes from the start. Skippable puzzles as well while we're at it. Santa Monica did say they'll match all the accessibility that Last of Us 2 had, but they skipped all of those features I mentioned above. That game even lets you zoom out the camera. Something Ragnarok clearly needed

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

No. Accessibility is ONLY for the story crowd. See how funny that works?

[@altaafsheik5725]

I was wondering why the music sucked but it was just volume I've listened to them now and it's amazing I don't know how Santa Monica studios dropped the ball with this game it wasn't epic as I thought it will be

[@creeperYT9824]

They should change some or most of the stuff in the combat system in egypt and they should keep a special combat system for every mythology it would be cool it every mythology was tied to different combat systems like if kratos were to ever return to greece the old combat system would return since that land is tied to that combat system

[@benjiago6800]

like the devs have a quest where the end collectible is a FLYING BOAT. players: wow can i use this boat to traverse places and fight dragons in the sky, we have the weapons to do this. santa monica: no, long boat traversal and climbing for you. ps: i like the wolves plus there is the illusion of being faster with them. I'm just saying why not have a FLYING dragon boss fight us on the FLYING SHIP.

[@YEY0806]

Because everything must be "grounded"

[@eggworth_III]

I agree with literally every nitpick you had I'm in my second playthrough and I *need* my skip button, these cutscenes are beautiful but I just wanna kick ass without sitting through a 15 minute long cutscene, I usually leave the room and come back after a few minutes- one small nitpick too is that like the Ragnarok part was too short, I still loved the Ragnarok part though

[@Retseptnikdlyadaunov]

I freaking love this game

[@amir94z]

Holy crap that gun shot spooked me 😅

[@creeperYT9824]

Here's me doing a puzzle in gow 2: *Starts opening chests and stylishly jumping into the water instead of actually doing the puzzle*

[@setupandey4819]

For me the only two bad things about the game were honestly the iron woods section not because it was bad but it dragged too long, and the the constant back seating the partner NPCs did lol.

[@setupandey4819]

@thegamer5317 lmao sameee , I legit fell asleep in ironwood. For me the walking sections with Faye on the other hand were perfect they gave my hands the perfect amount of rest while being intriguing and very impactful.

[@Unruined0]

Ngl my head canon for who blew the horn, is literally just Brok decided to do some tinkering and decided to cause havoc lmao

[@theeventhorizen3671]

After beating the game twice, I can really agree with Aretus and Mimir talking through every puzzle, but what I don't really agree on is the walking sections, the ones with faye were amazing, the one with anagrabroda should have been shorter. And I don't know if you realized but God of war Ragnarok is a story driven game so allowing players to skip story content would make no sense. Otherwise really good review.

[@gauravtayal3857]

They treated fenrir like a sick dog from street came one day and atreus adopted it . Tyr was so hyped in 2018 but the real tyr is just doing yoga doesnt tell anything about faye or how he travels to other pantheons like Greece . He literally just forgot kratos who destroyed an entire pantheon. They rushed some characters to wind up story in this game only . They should have gone for 3 games rather than 2 as there were so many characters to explore in this pantheon

[@astralchaos3441]

The Whole "How did Kratos travel here" will obviously be explained with later games. Same with real Tyr, he's saved for future projects. There's honestly nothing with how they did Fenrir. And there's a pretty good reason why it wasn't a trilogy. It would've taken a 15 year saga and takes too much time

[@gauravtayal3857]

@Chandler Burse But we saw in his chambers a pot showing kratos which he broke so atreus couldnt see it . On it we can see people rebuilding greece( with the power of hope maybe). So he must know about that as they were all gifts presented to tyr

[@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere]

​​​@@astralchaos3441 bro it was already explained he says in 2018 "I came to the shores" implying he's sailed there and in Ragnarok at the very end it shows him *sailing* there on a wall mural

[@astralchaos3441]

@@Doyoueverwonderwhywerehere Making the point Even worse.

[@christiankyleacbang9439]

One of the bg musics that also slaps in gow ragnarok was the fight with the enherjar in vanaheim when rescuing freyr. Imo that shouldve been the bg music of ragnarok

[@gamesthatshouldbeframed3760]

I don't know if was out when this video dropped, but there is currently a setting that makes the time before companions start talking longer, I put that on and it was very helpful since now they were almost never talking during a puzzle

[@SpacedOutRyu]

I can't believe your first playthrough was not on give me god of war difficulty. Way easier than 2018. Most of these points are for subsequent playthroughs, the first experience was jaw dropping.

[@aadipie]

True. Give me god of war was my first playthrough too, aside from the bosses and a couple of sections it was very doable. Definitely much easier than 2018.

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

At the time i didn't know it was more balanced than 2018's gmgow, And i didn't want to ruin my first walkthrough.

[@insertnamehere259]

I love this game to death and think it’s a huge step up from 2018 but there are definitely improvements like the ones you talked about in this review that can hopefully be fixed in a future update or next game

[@dogwadur6500]

Where's that- "SO HEEEELLLOOO GUYS, ITS YO XTREME GAMER ZESTY " Bruv

[@arissigma2031]

The whole video was amazing you expressed eveything in great detail,i havent played the game,only seen in but the critique is what makes gow ragnarok not the game of the year for this year.I'm on team gow still but this year's GOTY will be Elden Ring,as i have experienced both games(one i played and one i watched).Before gow got released i was pretty sure it will take ER spot as GOTY but it wont,dont get me wrong its still a masterpiece worthy of rememberance even after many years but ER got more things right,and it has dlc to offer so its not even over yet. On the other side i may say that if God of War Ragnarok got a DLC add on (like the souls games dlc)it would have serious chances of beating ER in the long run by being a better game as a whole.

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Ragnarok will still get the GOTY regardless. Game awards don't care about second walkthroughs and what have you. They only care about the first experience and when it comes to first experience? Gowr is definitely the better game.

[@Pantheon75]

I think everything u said in this video is true like songs are not loud enough in combat Ares song just hits different still to this day but the Atrues section and Custscenes should have a skippable option And I don't have anything to complain in this game except the things as u listed

[@hazimhayderhazim9459]

Best gowr review I love this game to death one of my favourites of all time I just want an update for ng+and skipping these first time only sections even like a bloodypalace mode I can't imagine how fun that would be😣

[@AGarcia34]

I love this game ngl top 3 for me in Gow series but the only Bad thing for me was the Jormungander vs Thor battle was the thing that i was most hyped wanted to see jormungander to bite Thor or when Thor hits jormungander wanted to see a angry snake that when he moves asgard walls fall or he makes like tsunamis and when Thor sends jormungander to the past i wanted to be more epic like everybody gets stunned or falls even ragnarok because of how hard the hit from Thor was

[@MamaJambaThe3rd]

The ost playing during the Odin fight is phenomenal too. Also I feel like you're going a little harsh on the game, it does have its flaws but they're not that major, at least not to the point of "holding the game back". Nonetheless, this was a great review. I'm hoping we'll get a NG+ update soon.

[@MariusBoss11458]

Honestly. The criticisms that he had were more about repeated playthroughs instead of his first playthrough. Except telling you the solution to the puzzle.

[@astralchaos3441]

We obviously will get an update. Santa Monica listens to their fans. Also, while the OSTs should be louder, it's understandable why they are at the volume they are. The new games are a lot more cinematic, more dialogue-ish.

[@lightmohamed5700]

Yeah I feel like he’s gone overboard with the walky talky and the Atreus sections a lot of people love Atreus and they can’t do anything about teleporting between the realms I don’t know about the music one And the walky talky is bad but it doesn’t hold the game by any means like it’s bad but it doesn’t make the game a lot worse or something I completely agree with the puzzles tho

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Odin's OST is SO good. Most of the flaws are for the people who replay the game a lot (those are important as well you know). And yes they are holding back the game. A game has to be repayable UNLESS it's marketed as a story game (detroit become human, tlou, etc) This is a game heavily advertised for its awesome combat (which is a phenomenal system) but the said combat system can't be explored and mastered by everyone becuz of the flaws that i listed

[@MamaJambaThe3rd]

@@ExtremeGameplays1 You have a point

[@Grimpachi]

This review is awesome. Haven't got GOWR yet but your breakdown of the gameplay got me excited then as you explained the other half of the game is well typically Sony bs. I was replaying 2018 to get ready for GOWR but after the dragon with Baldur I was done because now I got to walk and talk.

[@positiveoutlook9137]

Thank you , the side characters never shut up and the cutscenes never end , the gameplay is great but this is last of us 2 level of “gameplay”

[@JOHNNYTV115]

Personaly i believe after completing the game there should be a mode called speedrun in which you can run during walk sections and skip dream and atrues sections

[@meunderhypnosis407]

This game needs a coliseum mode, hordes After hordes of enemies

[@creeperYT9824]

The thor music slaps f*cking hard now I will make sure to put character voice to 1 aand music to 100 while playing gow 2018

[@Tosshh]

I’m not even gonna joke about betrayal.

[@KaiGames4]

Bruh

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

That's what i thought

[@mist12345678910]

There's more help for puzzles because the attention span of people nowadays has been hella dwindled because of TikTok and modern social media. Remember they used hella play testing, so blame modern day humans. This is history in the making, trust me

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

It should be an options

[@iurigrang]

The “long travel time” in 20:35 is a loading screen, the fact that they use it for dialogue during the main quest is merely a way to hide that, but the purpose of it was never the dialogue. You’d rather a real loading screen than some place where you at least can test combos out?

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

You also think i don't know that that's a loading screen :D ? It's good on a first experience bruh. My point was that it's unnecessary on replay walkthroughs. They serve no purpose, hence why they should add an option to instantly travel to the next ream via a real loading screen instead of a hidden one.

[@iurigrang]

​@@ExtremeGameplays1 from anywhere? or from the fast travel points? from the fast travel points doesn't seem to make any sense to me, as that would save no time. again, you're just switching one loading screen for another that doesn't let you try combos out. From anywhere is a very different complaint, and I'm not exactly sure how to answer that. The idea that all games should just have instant fast travel for the people who are playing this for the Nth time (which seems like a logical conclusion from that) seems, at the same time, very wrong, and I can't quite see the problem with it. If that was your original point, I guess touche, I got some thinking to do.

[@superbowyiming]

I mean even games last gen could do that why no GoW at least give us an option on NG+ to do that? If u have ps5 n u played games like Rachet u know it's possible to 0 sec for loading. Sure GoW5 still have to consider ps4 but there's already complaints from ps5 players on this. So here again why not give us this on NG+? We've experienced the shot why not just give us better gaming experience?

[@superbowyiming]

Btw for move test even Bayonetta did that better. I'd rather have something similar to Bayo 3's loading screen (where u can test combos, and even provide a button to stay on that screen testing dps on an enemy) than the one we have after 2 or more walkthroughs of the game

[@godofwargeek]

best and i feel the most honest review so far!

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Thanks, king.

[@ddarkman1festt]

On first play through, i didn't notice how many cinematics or walkie-talkie parts were in the game. I did, however, feel drained when playing the last of us 2 for that reason. Yesterday, I tried replaying tlou2. After playing for about an hour, I had only 1 tutorial combat encounter and skipped probably 20 cinematics every time there's 5 back to back. Make games easier to play

[@somerandomperson9670]

Modern AAA games: (tells you hints every five seconds and if you dont solve it in ten it tells you the answer) Meanwhile Elden Ring: "Go talk this dude until you exhaust his dialogue boxes, go to the academy, kill a giant dog so you can access the rest of the area, clean out the place until you get a helmet made or rock, find the hidden key above the arena where you kill the dog by walking a miles worth of climbing and jumping, get the key, deliver to that one dude you talked to earlier who wanted a spare key to get into the academy, then he gives you the erudition gesture, then go to this one tower somehwere in the game, put on one of the rock helmet things and use the erudition gesture, now you can acquire a couple of spells your probably never going to use"

[@SirToaster9330]

I do feel like the gameplay is very much just the same, but it’s nice that they added more bosses and enemies than before

[@alc4528]

I think the main problem with ragnarock is that kratos never felt like he had clear plan outside of ragnarock besides running(which is just super lame in my opinion). Then Atreus just had some weird plans that didn’t go anywhere, I liked that he went to Asgard but didn’t have a good reason for Asgard. Throughout the whole game it never feels like Ragnarock is an impending threat, it’s only there when the plot needs it. Don’t get me started on the finale.

[@jayashreekarmakar1606]

I mean, with how things are now, with social media and all, it's no wonder the devs are worried about the player maintaining their attention span

[@zeke.batmanarkham8205]

I'll be honest, when they were talking about how the game isn't good I'll bet it was because the boy sections had no combat and it was exclusively a walky talky and they released "hey no one is gonna like this" and slapped combat in there without fixing the core problem

[@morgannyan2738]

You hit the nail on the head, a job of a reviewer is to critique the game accurately and make sure the consumer doesnt waste his money. Unfortunately most reviewers just want to give this game a 10/10 so they can get further into their career and keep getting free review codes, praising the cutscenes instead of the game because thats what games are now, Interactive Movies in a Hollywood machine instead of playable experiences. Imagine if this game was 80% combat, 20% story. Then it would deserve being a 10/10. They also assasinated Kratos's character. Were talking about a guy who would rip a gods head off or smash their face in for not giving him what he wanted and sleeping with every woman and goddess in the pantheon to help him cope with the loss of his family, but were living in an age where thats "toxic masculinity'' and immature. Yes not being able to disicpline your son is so much more mature.

[@tylerleach8796]

If you think Kratos’s character was assassinated, you don’t get Kratos’s character.

[@solongus1513]

I have to say when I first played as Atreus and then went back to Kratos I felt like in dmc5 where you play as nero and v till ya reach dante

[@TheSCIOnce]

The multiple play through grind is the one critique I understand but this is the one game I don’t mind it because of the gameplay. Idk what you do with the dialogue from walkie talkies I know I wouldn’t prefer all dialogue come from cutscenes.

[@Nuuk_]

20:38 sir, this is a loading screen you can’t skip this

[@DasVicks63]

Honsetly Extreme you're one of my favorite youtubers of all time and you made see how GOW really is epsecially 3 and taught me so much. GOW is my favorite game series ever and it pains me to say GOW Ragnarok is not that great. It's good and fun but it like I didnt love the game, I found it certain parts of it rather really bored and I rarely get bored playing any the GOW games even the ones I dont care for. And the game runs on shit on PS4 so it doesn't help my opinon. I gave it a 7/10 and say what was once a trendsetter is now following tends too much. I'd say GOW2018 was better and the changes was welcome verse Ragnarok which only improved combat and bosses, that's it. I expected more for a sequel.

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

It has a lot of flaws but its combat is definitely not boring It's a very good game that still has the chance to get fixed

[@anhadmiglani6537]

Idk man , some of the puzzles are pretty hard in this game , the nornir chests got me sweaty , so idk

[@creeperYT9824]

Minor critique about gow 2018 (I haven't played ragnarok yet): I dont give a sh*t about this game having no cuts I dont understand why people are praising this game for the entire game being filmed in one shot it isn't even that important, when I am travelling through the magical doors it would've been better for it to just show a loading screen instead of me being forced to hold the thumbstick forward, then I could simply just pick up my phone

[@Jasontodd_edits]

20:54 it's Becouse of loading map

[@haarisajmeri9811]

what a good video i really enjoyed it & really i agree exactly what my opinions is in the video expect the soundtrack because i can hear it i dont know whats the problem but really dialogues are not the problem but the F ing no skipping cutscene is a torture i hate this that they only think about 1st playthrough where they should also put the time for replayability or 2nd playthrough look at ELDEN RING it gives us these simple options that doesnt confuse players also they put time on accessibility that some basic stuff is not there WTF thats why i am officially declaring or giving a spoiler ELDEN RING is gonna win GAME OF THE YEAR.

[@jameschristensen9388]

how he got to norse was said in 2018 on one of the maps most people didnt read it i only did because i love the god of war story but he sailed to norse using the boat captains boat at least thats what the map said

[@arihant5553]

The final thoughts made me emotional. This was the near perfect sequel they fucked up . A very enjoyable game for a normal gamer but as someone who's emotionally attached to the franchise. It hurts

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

I wouldn't say they effed it up completely It has a lot of flaws but is still a very good game

[@jaccblacc8424]

Btw Mustafa Do you think they'll change the gameplay and the camera for the new saga or stick with it since it's a bit too early?

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

They will stick with it since it makes more money than "BaToN mAh ShInG aH cTiOn"

[@_.LZ._]

I mostly agree but I think that realm between realms is just to load the new realm

[@Whoslet]

All they need to do is to add a Chapter select, like it has on Ascension, they put so effort on acessibility, and they don't do things to improve the enjoyment with the game

[@emmyjr1231]

Miles morales has it. Ghost has it too. Wonder why this is any different

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

@@emmyjr1231 god of war ascension while not having the best chapter system. Still had it

[@Fryea]

Okay this is gonna be fun Lemme just finish the physics study session

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

Finish the study first

[@Fryea]

@@ExtremeGameplays1 my my Your critiques are truly valid Loved that under the mayo joke 😂 I really hated the puzzle clues It really strips away the fun if finding it out on your own. The combat was amazing, but did they have to take away my perfect agile strike 🥲 I know you didn't like the atrues sections, but I really loved his combat, i didn't like the fact that you can't play as atrues in the end game, nor there's an option for you to re_play his sections Can you imagine if there was an option in the training arena to play as atrues, that would've been nice This game us fantastic as you said , but there was many missed opportunities. Btw the video was amazing to watch and relate to . Thank you ❤️

[@ExtremeGameplays1]

@@Fryea glad you liked it man. About atreus. Exactly. I don't WANT to experiment with his combat (that is probably good ik) becuz of all the cutscenes and walky talkies. Not a skill issue

[@darkpietroginopaoli3534]

on ps5 takes like 2 seconds to load, during the story in fact the door opens only after they finished to talk and after all the story you have to go into the space between the realms only to enter into the light door one second later, why they decided this. Also there are some walky talkie beacuse for ps4 limitations, you can see when it's loading a new area because you can do nothing and/or you are in a small space, on ps5 it' s really noticeable

[@bassiliks]

Honestly. Ragnarok is for me ten times bettee than the original. For me the original was a bit too much strached in the story department and even the story didnt captivated me or made me interested like the ragnarok. Gameplay is a straight up upgrade so what can i say. Considuring new games focuses more o story aspect i was enjoying more ragnarok since the interactions betwen different characters is what made me speculate all the time unlike the 4 game where since i was not invested into the plot of baldur and ahses. wasnt so interested. Ragnarok i think even if you didnt like some story aspect there will be defeneatly half of the other part that you will defeneatly love.

[@emmyjr1231]

they could've gone the Tomb raider route and introduced a puzzle/hint difficulty section.