THE JOKER WENT TOO FAR!! Reacting to "Is This the Best Joker Death?" - Nostalgia Critic

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[@tregrenos8615]

While the Joker comes back in the movie it’s not the same Joker. The Joker that dies in this continuity is the one we’ve been watching since the 90’s series. He’s not resurrected, but planned more than just brainwashing Robin. Something that wouldn’t manifest for several years in the case things didn’t initially work out.

[@marvelsandals4228]

Yeah the twist is that the Joker who returns is actually (spoiler alert for Return of the Joker) Robin (Tim Drake) the boy who Joker tortures and turns into a little version of himself in this flashback. Joker dies, but the mental scars he left on Tim remain, and years later drives Tim to become his successor. Well, sort of, there's also a computer chip Joker programmed to transfer his personality into Tim, which is kind of dumb, but whatever. Its a cool concept.

[@justyouraveragejoe9454]

He pulled a William Afton. He created an AI replica of himself that had his memories and downloaded it onto a teenager's brain.

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

@@justyouraveragejoe9454 It's more like Joker put a copy of his subconsciousness and genetics into a microchip implanted into Tim Drake's brain that pretty much turns Tim into a sleeper agent that can transform into The Joker like Dr.Jekyll And Mr.Hyde or a Werewolf

[@Hawkx10]

@@marvelsandals4228t does make me wonder what if the Joker hadn’t died would he be too old like Bruce Wayne to continue being the Joker thus Drake takes over or if that chemical bath and halted his aging would there have been a flight between two identical Jokers

[@tusken9669]

​@@justyouraveragejoe9454 So the Joker is the man behind the (s)laughter?

[@castle3267]

“You can see dislikes” you see, back in my day dislikes were always visible

[@RadioDanoo]

Joker is such a great villain. Mark Hamil voice acting him is iconic From what I have seen, I would agree it is the best Joker death by a long shot and the story for this scene specifically is much better than the rest of the movie. Joker is by far I think the favorite batman villain and is well-known for the mirror opposite to such a dark and serious protagonist. He is the most complex and most entertaining to watch. Suicide squad did him dirty, and although the Joker Movie was excellent, I don't think I see him as the supervillain that we see fighting batman.

[@crimsonknight7011]

Joker and Alastor have something in common, they both really love to smile

[@RadioDanoo]

@@crimsonknight7011 lol that's true enough.

[@marvelsandals4228]

The movie was good, the issue is that the flashback to how the Joker died is SO PERFECT that it makes the rest of an otherwise good movie look bad by comparison. Its just that perfect.

[@RadioDanoo]

​@@marvelsandals4228 While there were definitely some things that I found disagreeable in the movie..... in retrospect, I think you are right it was better than I probably gave it credit for.... It is a perfect scene, and its also an impactful and important one in the movie that sticks in your head

[@skullkap6746]

If you name any crime, it’s likely the Joker has committed it at some point Edit: with notable exceptions including tax evasion, as he’s not crazy enough to start beef with the IRS

[@bloodwolfgaming9269]

Except tax evasion.

[@lordtoomas]

He also hates nazis apparently

[@Skullkaiser]

Not any crime even Joker doesn't fuck with the IRS.

[@venom_spy437]

"IRS"?

[@bloodwolfgaming9269]

@@venom_spy437 Internal Revenue Service. Basically the people that US Citizens pay their annual taxes to.

[@mingchen7704]

There is reason he is call the “clown prince of crime” in terms of iconic and impact, the joker is almost second to none.

[@BassDS1990]

This is why in my opinion, the DC Animated Universe will ALWAYS triumph over any of the cinematic movies and even the comics; the stories were just so enjoyable and developed, it's why we hold Batman TAS, Superman, Static Shock and Justice League in such high regard; they were the pinnacle of superhero animation back in the late 90s and into the 2000s. The stuff nowadays just doesn't hold a candle; the DCAU was peak.

[@onyxprima]

Return of the joker is my all time favorite batman movie ever, and the joker death scene is A large part of the reason why. This is the movie that made me see joker in a scarier light.

[@smugsneasel]

13:50 I'm sorry, did you genuinely just ask if THE JOKER is BATMAN'S Number 1 Enemy?!...Oh my Lord. I think you did. The pain...Oh the pain of it all...I'm just going to skip the part where I speculate about your potential origins, and just say "yes"

[@theduckgoesmoo]

So he is number 1

[@cjandauntieyaya1446]

In the original comic book, Batman was supposed to kill the Joker. However, there was something about the chemistry between the two that caught reader's attention and the writers found a way to explain that the Joker survived. The Joker isn't the most powerful nor the scariest of the enemies Batman has had to face. However the Joker is the most iconic as he is a foil to Batman. Batman is serious, logical and driven. Joker is irreverent, chaotic and willing to change his motives and goals when it suits him. Batman's initial character has a gun, but the comic writers decided to scrap that and instead showed that Batman didn't need deadly force or weaponry to stop the villains. In effect he became a non-lethal badass. Oh sure, he won't kill you, but can you imagine what you can live through? Also there have been many Robins. First was Richard Grayson who created the persona himself to honor is murdered trapeze artist family. Once he became an adult and saw how Batman was a bit to aggressive, he left and joined the Teen Titans and eventually became the superhero Nightwing. The next Robin was Jason Todd, who was a street urchin Batman adopted when he found the little brat stealing the tires off the Batmobile. Jason Todd was a bit feral and Batman felt he needed to harness the kid's talents for good because the kid had a darkside in him. Eventually Joker murders Jason by beating him almost to death with a crowbar then using explosives. Batman finds Jason's lifeless body and was transporting him home for burial when the body was stolen by Ras Al Ghul (a hundreds year old ecoterrorist who is an enemy of Batman, but who wants Batman to marry his daughter, Talia, because he thinks Batman is the only man worthy to take over his organization). Jason's body was reanimated via the Lazurus Pit (a very toxic substance found in subterranean caves that can rejuvenate a person but in the process slowly drives the user mad) and Jason escapes before Al Ghul could stop him. Jason Todd eventually comes back to Gotham as the Red Hood and starts killing off all the criminal masterminds in the city. In the end, he abducts Joker and confronts Batman enraged about how Joker was not killed to avenge his death. Tim Drake is the third Robin who was taken under Batman's protection when his father's body was found floating in Gotham harbor. Turns out Tim's father worked for Two-Face (a villain who has schizophrenia as well as a split personality and a face that is burned on one side) and it seems Two-Face had him killed because the guy stole something important to the villain. The boy was being targetted because he may actually know where that something is. Tim found the old Robin suit and put it on to fight against Two-Face to avenge his own father's death. Batman decides to train him as the new Robin. Nightwing comes back into the fold at this time. Damien Wayne is the Fourth Robin. Yeah, he's Batman's son, but not by Batman's wish. Talia, Rhas Al Ghul's daughter drugged him and then raped him and then didn't let him know she was pregnant with his child. This is because Al Ghul needed an heir and if Batman wouldn't accept the offer, then he'd get the next best thing. An offspring with Bruce's genetic traits that is trained up as a killing machine. By the time Talia introduced the boy to his father, Damien was already a little psychopath with a huge chip on his shoulder. Took quite a bit for the whole bat family to get the kid to be less of an elitist shit. Eventually, Batman had to send him to the Teen Titans as well in order for the kid to learn to "play well with others". In a future alternate reality, when Batman is older and meaner and the world is in a dystopia, Stephanie Brown becomes the Fifth Robin. She's not really cannon, but then the whole DC/Marvel universes are doing these muli-verse thingies so anything goes. Technically, the Stephanie Brown Robin doesn't exist in the timeline where Tim Drake's Robin kills Joker as the future is Batman Beyond. I suggest you watch Batmetal 1-3. Those are HILARIOUS!

[@thehonestreviewer7754]

Before the MCU there was the DCAU, and yes, you have reacted to an NC video talking about this. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm is also set in the same continuity as this. Speaking of the animated series, some would want you to react to his top 11 of Batman episodes as well. One more thing. Channel Awsome's Walter just finished the final installment of looking over Batman the animated series episodes last May called Bat-May. Perhaps you can check it out as a replacement for Overanalyzing Avatar once you complete that. They're pretty much the same format.

[@HB-fq9nn]

Good idea.

[@The_Blue_Otaku]

Yeah the Batmay videos are amazing

[@garrettwhite5943]

Mark Hamill's Joker is the single best Batman villain there is. Definitely recommend watching Batman: The Animated Series. Either on your channel or not. It's absolutely the best way to familiarize yourself with the character if you don't know much. Fantastic series.

[@alphawolf7417]

Batman has several iconic enemies. Like Bane who not only figured out his identity but also broke his spine. Or Red Hood who is his former Robian and an on and off villain/vigilante. But the Joker is the complete antithesis of Batman. Batman's cool, calm, and focused. Joker is about as unstable and unpredictable as you can get without going full-on Deadpool and just breaking continuity and the 4th wall.

[@krbchris26]

Personally I love this film. Easily in my top 25. Batman Beyond has always been one of my favorites. My absolute favorite part of the movie, aside from this portion, is the final battle between Terry and Joker. Bruce tells Terry not to engage in the Joker's playful teasing, but Terry decides to do the one thing Bruce never did, get in on the joke. Terry makes fun of the Joker. Terry tells him he isn't funny, that he's pathetic, and that he never amounted to anything. Terry starts to laugh and Joker freaks out saying he needs to stop. Leading to my favorite lines in the movie. Joker: "Stop it! Stop laughing!!" Terry:"Why? I thought the Joker always wanted to make Batman Laugh" Joker:"YOU'RE NOT BATMAN!!!!"

[@troublesomezorua]

"He's not the only bad guy in Gotham." If only the writers would remember that. He's ridiculously marketable, and so they kind of try to cram him into everything. I think it MIGHT be getting a bit better now, haven't kept up too much, but I know for a while it was just all-Joker-all-the-time.

[@veerebleatsim2380]

Batman has a fairly large cast of villains, nicknamed the Rogues Gallery, but Joker is pretty much the most prolific and known. There's a quote floating around that I can't remember what it's from, but it boils down to all villains in the DCAU being kind of terrified of the Joker. Which is kind of funny because the Joker has no powers at all, he's just a guy. He's clever and cruel and completely insane, but he's just a guy.

[@JohnnyDoorknob]

Imma quote a movie to answer your question about villains in Gotham Joker: Penguin, Crazy Quilt, Eraser. Polka-Dot Man, Mime, Tarantula. King Tut, Orca, Killer Moth, March Harriet, Zodiac Master, Gentleman Ghost. Clock King, Calendar Man, Kite-Man, Catman, Zebra-Man, and the Condiment King” Rando: “Okay, are you making some of those up?” Joker: “Nope, they're all real. Probably worth a Google”

[@LordHypertronUniversum]

Lego Batman Movie?

[@Skullkaiser]

Your missing Solomon Grundy, Riddler, Clue Master, Penny Pincher, Mister Shunshine, Two-Face, Hush, Poison Ivy, Professor Pyg, Harley Quinn, Ras Al-Ghul, Talia Al-Ghul, Bane, Catwoman, Scarface, Ventriloquist, Killer Croc, Man-Bat, Clayface (Basil Karlo), Tweedledee, Tweedledum, Alice, White Rabbit, Mad Hatter, Onomatopoeia, Victor Zasz, Scarecrow, Hugo Strange, Mr. Freeze, Black Mask, Great White Shark, Humpty Dumpty, Firefly, Clayface (Matt Hagen), Clayface (Preston Payne), Clayface (Todd Russell), Dollmaker, Nobody, The Axeman, Bone, Dollhouse, The Falcone Family, The Maroni Family, Mouse, Spark, White Canary, Magpie, Bedbug, Lady Shiva, Anarky, Nocturna, Doctor Phorpherus, Adam Bomb, Ferak, Le Bossu, Floronic Man, Vandetta, Reaper, Birthday Boy, Raggedy Man, Bugg, The Architect, Query, Echo, Cormorant, Lynx, Ratcatcher, Jane Doe, Lyle Blanco, Terminal, Peri Kabuki and those are just Batman's villains.

[@theredknight1757]

Another brilliant scene in this video. Near the end, you see the joker pop a knife out of his sleeve and stab Batman in the leg. He was talking about Batman, and that leads to him saying, "I, on the other hand...". However, as he's saying that, he's using misdirection, to have Batman look at one hand while he pops the knife out of the other. The hidden joke there is that you could also interpret the Joker as saying "Eye on the other hand...", a veiled warning about the knife.

[@maddan9086]

LOL! The term you're looking for when describing Joker's position in Batman's rogues' gallery is, "arch nemesis". 😏

[@mixednarwhal]

14:06 TLDR: thought my memory was failing at a young age due to not finding the non censored version. I remember seeing the non censored one first when I was younger but when I went to watch it again many years later I saw the censored one and could only find the censored versions which made me believe I was experiencing one of those creepy lost episodes memories people have of childhood shows or movies

[@bluestreak7936]

Joker is the main villain of Batman originally supposed to die in his first appearance 💛

[@Trilaan]

The Joker is Batman's most famous villain and the most used, he first appeared in Batman #1, April, 1940. Batman's first big villain was Doctor Hugo Strange, his first appearance was in Detective Comics #36, February, 1940.

[@passarovoador6662]

Joker is the arch nemesis, but he's WAY better when he's not used frequently, Batman is a detective so Joker breaks the mold, he's different from most characters and he gets pretty boring when overused

[@VegetaLF7]

Exactly. Joker showing up needs to be an "oh shit, Joker is here" experience, rather than "oh look, there's Joker again". Overuse him and he loses his effectiveness.

[@Jirodyne]

@@VegetaLF7 Agreed. My favorite moment of this is in the Animated Suicide Squad movie, where they are breaking into Arkum to get something. Then while in there, the Joker shows up, and the Team freak the fuck out, cause he's an insane crazy motherfucker who they have no idea what he's going to do, and I think almost kills them, tho it has been many years since I seen it and only seen it once.

[@WallNutBreaker524]

4:54 Removing the dislikes was the worst thing KZbin did 🤦‍♂️

[@vridathegrimm]

This joker for reference the DCAU Joker has been in: 4 (maybe 5?) seasons of BTAS 2 Movies (outside of this one) 4 seasons of JTAS (Justice league the animated series and its secondary show Justice league unlimited though he was mostly in the original) Oh and a 3 part episode of STAS superman the animated series he is one of the more common recurring villains in BTAS as well

[@Bardic_Knowledge]

Batman and the Joker are foils to each other, yin and yang as one song puts it. Batman is dark, methodical, serious, and helps where he can. The Joker is bright, chaotic, maniacal, and murders when he feels like it. When it comes BtAS, Batman went up against a lot of foes. Some from the comics, some made wholesale for the show (some of which made it into the comics, like Harley and the Condiment King). But The Joker was the first one we see him against in that series, and, through this movie, kne of the last, as well. Also, Mark Hamill, voice of The Joker (as well as Fire Lord Ozai and actor for Luke Skywalker, among many others), has stated that he will never voice The Joker again, now that Kevin Conroy has passed. Because who is The Joker without his Batman*? * Note that Batman does not feel the same way. He would really rather not have to deal with The Joker anymore.

[@senorsiro3748]

“please do nothing to the cook.” I UNDERSTOOD THAT REFERENCE!

[@darkjammin79]

While Joker is currently the most iconic out of Batman's rogues gallery, he isn't the strongest, smartest or best. He suffers from overexposure by being so different compared to other villains in iconic comic IPs. Very marketable and once upon a time my favorite villain, but having seen when Mr. Freeze, Penguin, Al Ghul, etc get written well he took a hit in my liking of him. Mr. Freeze for example has changed for over a decade despite being around for a LONG time prior to the cartoon series referenced there. This is among my favorite batman movies and by far my favorite use of Terry(the protege in that movie) by showing him going up against the Joker in his way. Throwing off the joker and showing how well he thrived off of Bruce but struggles against Terry.

[@karlgrimm3027]

The worst offenders for dying and coming back are Green Arrow and Nightcrawler. Green Arrow was disintegrated at one point by Paralax but Kyle Rayner reassembled his molecules. Nightcrawler went to heaven for a while but then just decided to leave.

[@XTheCrystalBeastGuyX]

I thought the worst offenders for that were all the Superman story rewrites.

[@mikemartinez9703]

Commissioner Barbara Gordon’s flashback story of the night the joker died was the best part of the entire movie. The joker was twisted and to see Batman unhinged at the sight of what the joker did to robin was so intense and iconic.

[@christiancrusader9374]

Basically yes, Joker is Batman's greatest villain. Batman started off fighting organized crime, but when the Joker showed up it changed everything.

[@daysand123]

Joker is kind of one of the big batman villains despite other batman villains having their own impact. Hell Bane is literally the guy that physically and mentally outsmarted and broke the bat. The Joker just constantly gets brought back no matter how many times he dies, whether its fake outs or DC resetting continuity again for another universal retelling of the stories because they realize they can't continue capitalizing on one of their biggest players if they just kill them off. If you want a really good video summary about how death in American comics has no point anymore with how hard both Marvel and DC will backpeddal just to ensure they keep the cash cow above water, I recommend watching Max Landis's The Death of Superman video essay.

[@tadeolaguarda6965]

13:54 YES!!! THE JOKER IS BATMAN MOST ICONIC AND DANGEROUS VILLAN!

[@TJMcDonough]

I want to see your reaction to the Nostalgia Critic's review of Moonwalker which was a film that is nothing but a collection of music videos by Michael Jackson who became the King of Pop in the 80's and 90's but had a rough life including abuse from his father and lots of allegations against children. He eventually died of a drug overdose a few months after the Moonwalker review was released in 2009.

[@filipvadas7602]

1.I'd highly reccommend checking out Batman Beyond. Terry Mcguiness is quite literally one of the few characters in all of DC that, in my opinion, could actually replace Bruce as The Batman. Over the course of the show and in the movie, he more than earns it and his developement is handled really well. 2. What makes the story of how the Joker died so much more impactfull is that , throughout Batman Beyond Terry encounters or hears about the fates of many of Batman's rogue's gallery. But *never* The Joker. Bruce even seemingly avoids talking about him and only alludes to the fact that he's dead and that he had something to do with it. Made even more strange when the Joker Gang is a thing in Gotham, a gang that outright glorifies the Joker and tries to continue his legacy. So Bruce having nothing to say about it was *really weird* So when we finally see how the clown prince of crime finally kicked the bucket, it hit that much harder. 3. There is actually a scrapped scene from the movie that showed Bruce going back to Arkham Asylum , where they buried Joker. Only to find his corpse strung up by chains, taunting Bruce; knowing he would go there.

[@mr44mag]

Beyond is just required viewing. The artstyle, the setting, the stories, and the shockingly high bodycount. Not going to spoil too much, but Wayne didn't have enough moments, but when he did they weren't golden, just pure platinum.

[@quantum_leviathan]

This more colorful joker is my favorite one ever , I love this story also batman the animated series is was and always will be the best series imo

[@quantum_leviathan]

Also mark Hamill will always be the only true joker for me

[@WallNutBreaker524]

Reminds me of "Black Butler" when "Ciel Phantomhive" got tortured into thinking he was someone else.

[@calebmaybin6896]

Not long ago a comic story came out that there have been 3 Jokers.

[@BlahBlahWoofWoof12]

This is why Joker is Batman's arch nemesis

[@connorwood9211]

- You're thinking about the Batman Beyond vs Spiderman 2099 Death Battle regarding the info about the Beyond series. NC normally talks about the original series but it is discussed by another Channel Awesome member Walter (who plays Zack Snyder in the skits) in their Kids WB vid - Batman has plenty of recognizable villains in his rogue gallery; Penguin, Two Face, Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn etc. But Joker is always his No.1 nemesis and who everyone thinks first when talking about BM villains - Definitely recommend the Batman Arkham game series. They're amazing

[@EditDeath]

Batman has such a large, great gallery of villains that it's pretty much the gold standard for comics. Even with all of them, Joker is the #1 enemy for Batman. Joker is as lacking in super powers as Batman, but his insanity and cunning make him as effective. He's unpredictable and has no limits (except messing with the IRS, even Joker knows better there)

[@theLOSTranger234]

in the lego batman movie, they have EVERY batman villain (from the comic books mostly) show up and yes (EVERY batman villain (from the comic books mostly) even the lesser known or less popular ones! also NC did do a review of batman beyond. (it was apart of his kids wb review not a month ago) as for batman the animated series, he has done reviews and various episodes here and there over the older years! the baby doll episode.

[@Nightout88]

batman the animated series and the sequel series batman beyond, are so good they won a ton of Emmys back in the day. i can't stress this enough btas is probably the closest we will ever get to an actual series that is 1-1 with the comics. its one of the few shows i've watched to get a pure 10/10 on every catgory. a few episodes drag here and there, but its a show that you can watch both as an adult and as a kid and it will treat you like an adult, no matter your age.

[@Nightout88]

to me there is no other batman show that comes even close to btas, even now and days.

[@Nightout88]

the closest we got to btas standard was "the brave and the bold" series, but that was a batman from the 60's its not the same batman.

[@Jirodyne]

Actually, I want to correct something Critic got wrong. In most of the Comic versions of the Batman Universe, the Joker DOES know exactly where the Batcave is, and who Batman is. But he never uses that against him. Because his goal isn't to kill or destroy the batman. Not physically anyways. To the Joker, Batman is a Puzzle, a Game. To see what he can do, to get under his skin, to push him to his limits, and finally break his 1 rule, and kill him. This is why in most versions, he always asks Batman to kill him, to do it, to break his 1 rule. My favorite example of this is from the animated movie "Batman: Under the Red Hood" Where what we see here in this video is taken to a much more extreme end. Batman confronts the Joker in Arkem, literally choking the life out of him, while Joker asks him with his gasping breathing, "You going to do it this time? Or just put me in a bodybag for 6 months?" The Hero with Batman actually standing up, concerned he might actually kill him. But of course, he doesn't. But it's just a wonderful scene, in a wonderful movie. Would LOVE to see you reacting to it.

[@cherechesalexdaniel811]

In this video you asked if the Joker is a sociopath or psychopath. There is a great video done by The Imaginary Axis on the exact mental condition the Joker suffers from. You should check it out.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Hmmm

[@CronostheStray]

The pingvin? Nah, that's just a deformed mob boss with a gun-brella. Joker is his actual nemesis, closest enemies to the joker are the likes of Enigma, Bane, Poison Ivy. But those 3 have been sidekicks to other villains at times, while the Joker is just too wild and crazy for nearly anyone to team up with him. 😅

[@BraydenLaver]

Yes Batman does have many villians like the Penguin, Two-face, The Riddler, and Scarecrow, but The Joker is the arch-nemiesis to Batman, so in other words he is Batmans #1 villian

[@dagonofthedepths]

Harley Quinn just fell in love with the Joker, something that was out right stated he did intentionally in the show and he did it as a joke. Being she's in love with a guy that cares nothing for her and he changed a therapist into a crazy person through "love" alone. The Batman Animated Series show was her first appearance in media by the way. Batman Beyond takes play way in the future so all the characters are too old and too jaded with Bruce to take up the mantle. So the person who takes up the mantle is a new character, Terry McGinnis who Bruce entrust with the suit and mentors him into becoming the next Batman. Mainly because they have similar trauma and Terry has the same sense of justice. Also, really hurts you don't know Joker is Batman's main villain. Sending you me medical bills for that cringe.

[@ShinKyuubi]

Yeah the reason Superman killed Joker in Injustice? It's a whole thing involving a pregnant Lois Lane, a nuclear bomb, and an entire city destroyed. It basically broke Superman to the point he went full on "Justice Lord" and decided the only way to stop villains like Joker was death since he knew Batman would never kill Joker no matter what he did. From there he went on to take over the world basically and became a dictator of sorts when it came to how crime was dealt with, some heroes joined him, some villains joined him too...a "Better to be the right hand of the devil than be in his path" kinda deal. Other heroes and villains joined Batman and his resistance against Superman because of him taking things too far...he would up killing Shazam...who I must remind you, is a little boy with magic powers that turns him into a grown man. When Shazam decided to stop following Superman...Superman used his heat vision to kill him. It's even referenced in Injustice 2 where Superman has an intro dialog against Blue Beetle where he says he won't hurt children...Blue Beetle replies "It didn't stop you with Shazam"...yeah Injustice Superman went down a dark road thanks to what Joker did.

[@anyathepanther7977]

I did'nt really watch either of those Shows, but i have seen this Special. I was confused and scared for Lil Robin!

[@venom_spy437]

Joker is not the only Gotham villain. But he's Batman's arch-nemesis, they're yin and yang.

[@scarlightemperor3410]

Duck man, you really need to watch Trigun. (Specifically Stampede) good animation, good music, good everything. And considering you only watch abridged series, Stampede is short and good introduction to REAL anime

[@poochyenajones1362]

DCAU is the pinnacle of DC being put on screen. None of the CW stuff or whatever Warner Bros. been doing with their MCU clone came remotely close.

[@Lorlic1138]

In regards to if Joker is Batman's number 1 villan, Joker is Batman's "Arch-Nemesis". In other words he's the badguy who will always be associated with him. There are other villans but the one you think of when you think Batman is Joker.

[@theLOSTranger234]

also the joker doesnt care who batman is, why joker kept referring to batman and 'batman' even after he said he knows who he is.. cause they kinda went into it in the series, (only of the deeper episodes/not sure which one thou) but cant have a joker without batman and vie versa, they are the two sides of the same coin) was another episode where batman seemingly was gone for good and joker just fell into a depression, saying whats the point to anything anymore with out the bat to stop him.

[@Spekor]

Kyle. batman and the joker are 2 sides of a coin. they are the same. because they suffer the same insanity. bruce/batman does not kill because he fears if he went that direction he'd never come back from it. in fact there's a version of batman who basically is the joker but yes the joker is batmans main enemy

[@Wolf-1814]

The penguin, clay face, Solomon Grundy, two face, car woman, poison ivy. All of them are og batman villains but the joker is the original he was one of the first villains. This death is among the best i personally like the batman who laughed story more, barman after the joker who learned batmans identity and kills the parents of evrey kid in Gotham city and turns the kids into joker esk abominations. Batman kills the joker infecting him self with a joker surum that drives batman mad creating the batman who laughs

[@Nick-Wickerbeast]

There’s a google extension called “Return KZbin dislikes”. A lot of people are using it… I found out about it from JonTron.

[@vojislavS8652]

One of if not the best death of the joker. That's why the animated series are so good

[@johanstenfelt1206]

One of my favorite Videos, Have you done the Old vs New Batman Video yet?

[@CadenzaKatie]

I started watching some of the DC stuff on HBO Max recently. I havent seen the animated shows yet, but this was an incredible arguement for me watching the animated series after i finish the Dark Knight trilogy.

[@gamemasternintendoo]

3:49 Superman’s not good at giving high fives. The Jokers proof of that.😊

[@ronanmates7812]

Seriously watch this movie the impact of this scene is heightened greatly by how Bruce and Barbra talk about the joker before this reveal.

[@hermannmakuta3311]

So we are back at Batman-Stuff ? So I recommend "Batman vs. Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Nostalgia Critic"

[@PaulW_ftPAULK]

Absolutely, that's such a fun review!

[@mariothane8754]

Kids shows went hard back in the day.

[@MikeMozzaro]

I think it would be fantastic for you to react to some of the other people that used to work with Doug on Channel Awesome. Todd in the Shadows is my favourite of the lot: his series One-Hit-Wonderland is a review of the history of famous pop songs. There's also Linkara; who's appeared in a couple of the NC vids you've seen. I think the best vids of his to watch is his 6 part review of a series called 'Marville', something lauded as one of the worst comic books ever written.

[@profdracko]

If you want a good (if long) breakdown of a good Batman/Joker story then ThePandaRedd has a video on the Arkham Asylum comic. Other big Joker stories that get referenced all the time are A Death in the Family, The Killing Joke, and more recently and much more controversial, The Three Jokers. (personally I think he's an overrated villain.)

[@jackmcglion8337]

Back then, you could see dislikes. Also, some comics do have continuity.

[@Kaempfdog]

God I remember those days. I honestly would find it helpful. There’s always those people that click dislike just for the sake of it, but knowing the ratio would be better sometimes.

[@jackmcglion8337]

@@Kaempfdog me to.

[@emerald_espeon]

Day 46 “Can you beat Kirby Super Star Ultra Without Jumping” or “Can You Beat Shovel Knight Without Collecting Gold” by Sample

[@calebgoodman3028]

Just to clear something up. Terry McGinnis (the new Batman) was never a Robin. In this timeline Tim was the second and last Robin, while in the comics Tim was the third out of five.

[@LSSJGod]

Tim Drake was the third Robin… Jason Todd was the second Robin he just wasn’t shown on screen in this timeline

[@calebgoodman3028]

@@LSSJGod Jason straight up doesn’t exist in this universe. Tim is explicitly stated to be the second Robin in the show. If you’re referring to the DCAU that’s a completely different timeline from the Batman animated universe.

[@Hawkx10]

Walter who also works at Channel Awesome (in fact he was the guy who was doing the second half of the FOX Kids review) reviewed every Batman: The Animated Series episode including the art change that was discussed in this review. He called his reviews Bat-May however with most of his reviews not going beyond 10 mins it’s not really feasible to review each one in a separate upload so if you do decide to watch and post I’d do multiple ones per upload. Though personally I’d just watch in your own free time. Here is the link to the entire Bat May playlist kzbin.info/aero/PL0AQIMR-tpomkr_Vxu1V0fvMig5AWrJDA

[@snakefish18]

Joker is not only the best Batman villain but the best DC villain, he may not be the strongest villain but for what he had and he could do he was feared and more importantly remembered, hell the onetime Joker did get god-like powers not only did Darkseid feel helpless but the only way to beat him was to convince him how boring it is to be so OP🤣

[@morphingninja]

how often do you talk to the "camera" when you are just watching something on your own?

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Ahhhhh

[@fanofmediastuff269]

Joker is considered the number one most iconic Batman villain. You can replace him with Penguin, Riddler or Bane, but everyone will always think of the Joker as Batman’s mortal enemy

[@VegetaLF7]

You have the Arkham games, definitely play them! Easily one of the more interesting takes on Batman as well as 3 of the 4 games (Asylum, City, and Knight) using the same voice actors for Batman and Joker as the animated series this movie is connected to. The 4th game, Origins, features a different cast to play younger versions of the characters, but the other three are all the same when it comes to Bats and Joker's most iconic voices. And yes, when Doug says people consider these two to be the definitive Batman and Joker, he doesn't mean just in animation. They are THE BEST Batman and Joker, period. The live action ones always have to have the caveat of "live action Batman or Joker" because these two are absolutely iconic. Kevin Conroy (RIP) and Mark Hamill kill it as Batman and Joker every time. For some of the other questions. The new Batman mentioned in this is Terry McGuinness. He's not a Robin like the others but was created for the show he appeared in, Batman Beyond. The idea is it's decades in the future and Bruce Wayne has grown too old to continue life as Batman and thus retired. Terry loses his father in a villainous attack and by chance comes across Bruce Wayne, getting a job being his caretaker to help Terry grow more mature as he's something of a punk high school student. Terry stumbles across the old Batcave and discovers that Bruce Wayne *was* Batman and realizes his chance to get vengeance for his father just landed in his hands. Terry steals the last of the line of Batsuits which has a lot of high tech gadgets built in (it's closer to an Iron Man suit in a way) and runs off before Bruce realizes what happened. The two strike a deal, Terry can keep the suit and act as the new Batman for Gotham, while Bruce mentors him both as a superhero and to be a better person than the dark path he was taking would have led him to be. Joker 100% is the TOP Batman villain. There are others. Penguin, Two-Face, Killer Croc, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze, etc. But Joker is the top dog when it comes to the Batman Rogues Gallery. The relationship between Batman and most other villains is that of superhero vs supervillain, rarely getting more personal than that. Villain has evil plan, hero stops them, simple. But Joker is different. He doesn't want to kill Batman, he wants to *break* him, corrupt him. It is all one big game for Joker. Batman has his one rule, no killing. Joker wants Batman to cross that line, even if it means killing Joker himself. He doesn't care, he'd happily die at Batman's hands knowing that it was Batman who killed him, thus breaking his rule and giving in to being nothing but a killer in the end. He'd die knowing he'd won and that Batman would realize he lost. Nothing is ever straightforward with Joker. If the Penguin holds the city hostage for money, he just wants the money. If Joker does it, he has some ulterior motive at work behind the scenes so that even if the big plan is foiled, something else succeeds in the background. That's what makes him so dangerous. Joker is ultimately a pushover in hand to hand combat. He's got his knives and joke weapons and such, but Batman can take him down no problem. The problem is Joker always plans for that. Bombs hidden in the city, a kidnapped loved one held in a death trap, the citizens about to be poisoned, whatever. Joker plots are never black and white like most other villains are. He's always playing three steps ahead and knows precisely how to play against Batman.

[@MariuigiKhed]

13:40 Good question: I personally think the best villain for a hero is the protagonist's antithesis, the villain that is in all ways the exact mirror of the protagonist (example, I love the Dalton Brothers as Lucky Luke's antagonists as much as the next guy, but I feel the oneshot villains Elliot Belt the bounty hunter and the killer Phil Defer have actually more potential than them). But Batman has more than one: Ras' al Ghoul is his antithesis in mentality and goals, Joker is the antithesis in appareances and factions, Owlman is LITTERALLY himself from a parallel universe in which good is bad and vice versa... you have a lot of "number 1". I feel that Joker is good, but it's like the Dalton Brothers for Lucky Luke: they are the most famous/funny/fan favourite, but not necessarely the [exact] best one for that postition.

[@bensherinian3599]

They mentioned Batman beyond in the kids WB video.

[@venom_spy437]

2:28 He sliced his face off, then, sometime later, put it back on.

[@theduckgoesmoo]

So casual

[@venom_spy437]

@@theduckgoesmoo Yeah, for Joker it`s fine.

[@kevinshough8352]

You're not paying attention the bat Man from the future not Robin

[@badbloodkiller3471]

13:52 "Is Joker the number 1 enemy?" Yes, he is. Sure, Batman fights The Penguin and many others but Joker is the perfect arch-nemesis of Batman. The two are complete opposites of each other; Batman, the humorless, brooding Dark Knight of Gotham and Joker, the laughter obsessed, colorful Clown Prince of Crime. No matter the universe, they will always fight nor will the battle ever end, one cannot nor will not kill the other, why? Batman has his moral code, you may think The Joker would but if he did then the Joker's twisted games would end without the Dark Knight to play with.

[@fireball1249]

"Without the Batman, Crime has no Punchline."

[@gamemasternintendoo]

Now if you want to see someone review Batman Beyond the return of the Joker, Decker Shadow did an excellent review of it 7 months ago. You should take a look at it. I think you’ll enjoy it.👍

[@DarkknightChris]

Terry Mcginnis became the next Batman decades after the orginal Batman or any of his sidekicks retired. He was never a Robin. The Robin from Teen Titans is based on Dick Grayson, the 1st Robin. He wanted to step out of Batman's shadow and became Nightwing. Tim Drake, the kid in the video is one of the later Robins that took the mantle.

[@MetaLatias5]

I believe the Joker is generally considered to be Batman's main nemesis, though I'm not sure how much that's actually true in the comics, he's definitely a fan favorite at least The Lego Batman movie actually even touched on whether or not the relationship between Batman and the Joker is special and made it a major point of conflict (I genuinely recommend that movie, it's great and a lot of fun) If you want a review of it to react to, I don't think Nostalgia Critic did one (yet?), but there is the one called "What makes Lego Batman the most faithful Batman" by Nerdstalgic

[@Jirodyne]

It depends on how you define it. Batman's ultimate "True Enemy" to his goals of saving Gothem, is the Court of Owls. But the person that is his complete opposite, and works as a psycologal foil against his morals, ideals, and beliefs. Then it is the Joker. If you mean actually fighting physically 1 on 1, it is Bane. If your talking about who has worked against him the most, it's probably Raz Al Gul, who has a love/hate relationship with Batman/Bruce. But by far, his most well known and well loved Villain, has to be The Joker, 100%, thanks to the movies and cartoons. He just has too many Iconic lines, scenes, and roles.

[@EV0X-byteVA]

The joker is the most dangerous villain

[@johanstenfelt1206]

Joker is Batman’s Arch-nemesis, yes.

[@Spikero2]

The "Censored" version of Joker's death was definitely the most ironic to me (plus I still have that VHS), considering all the times Mr. J used a deadly Joy Buzzer.

[@johnmichaelchance1151]

Watches a video about the best death scene of the Joker and sees him getting shot. 10:48 Kyle: “Wait is he actually dead?”😂

[@venom_spy437]

12:02 I think it's chemicals.

[@Degdreams]

Oh... so you still haven't seen the Nostalgia Critic Movie

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Nope

[@Archive_7802]

13:38 I agree. The Arkham Games following suit.

[@chrisbowers7523]

Duck goes moo , joker is the number 1 villan of batman and the new batman is terry mcgilisis and rember you did review reaction to death battal with batman beyon with spiderman beyon. Watch this movie when you have the chance . it's good .

[@Ghost_R4cc00n]

It seems interesting to say that I remember watching both versions of the movie when it aired for adult audiences to child-friendly audiences. As the Uncut version was shown during Toonmai nights in Cartoon Network showing action pack with heavy violence when it comes to Adult Swim airing till years later on Discovery Kids/HUB was showing the movie to show a lighter side of the story with keeping the same atmosphere but showing cuts of a light side and have replaces parts. So the movie still live on strong on whoever watches it and the VA of Terry aka new Batman still do voicing but it’s rare moments to catch him. So yeah, I hope you can give it a watch of Batman Animated series as they have a interesting storyline to follow. 😌

[@BuzryHaproMandalorianHunter]

The Return of the Joker is the best movie.

[@Yami-no-Raiden]

While I love all the respect Doug pours into these 10 minutes and analyzes all the small details, as well as providing context as a long time runner of BTAS...I'm not a fan of how much he undermines the ending fight of this movie. Seeing Terry being the one person to tear apart the Joker is an amazing achievement that he, to this day, is the only person to accomplish.

[@SilverHairedFreak25]

2:17 Oh that's absolutely PRECIOUS, Kyle! You think comics know when to stop their stories! Bitch you're a Dragon Ball fan. You should _know_ how cheap death in fiction is. 6:42 "This is... crazy!" IT'S THE JOKER! THE CLOWN PRINCE OF CRIME! None of that dumbass "society" melodrama started by The Dark Knight and propagated by the Joaquin Phoenix movie, this is the JOKER. Crazy is his entire MO. 7:12 Nah, Harley was just emotionally manipulated by "puddin" over there. She wasn't even thrown into a vat of acid like he was, that was a retcon they added when they introduced her to the comics. 11:12 Doug *SERIOUSLY* underplays how good the final confrontation between Terry and the Joker is. And yeah, this scene plays a major part in it. This isn't just an excuse to have these two fight despite the latter being dead, this is the moment Terry McGinnis _finally and truly_ steps out of Bruce's shadow and BECOMES Batman. Terry's putting up a decent fight, but Joker's experience combined with Tim Drake's more athletic body has him on the backfoot. So naturally, he asks his mentor for help. Bruce tells his student to fight his old nemesis the way he always has: ignoring the Joker's quips and jokes and just powering on through. But then Terry has an epiphany: "Wait, I like to talk too..." And so he does the one thing nobody in the DC Animated Universe has ever done: _Heckle the Joker._ Right down to mocking his supervillain origin in a complete role reversal of the scene in Arkham we saw earlier. And this drives Joker nuts. We've NEVER seen him this homicidally angry. When Joker rips off Terry's mask and begins to choke him to death, Terry pulls out the winning move: Using one of Joker's discarded electric joybuzzers to short out the microchip on his neck, freeing the former Robin from his control and ending his threat for good. If you have 5 minutes of spare time, PLEASE, for the love of god, look up the final confrontation. Will Friedle and Mark Hamill give it their absolute 110%. 14:01 Oh yeah, Batman has a HUGE Rogues' Gallery. But Joker is always the top billing because he's such a good foil to our beloved Caped Crusader.

[@Ponyman-1997]

Hello

[@fanita91]

This guy reminds me of Jon snow 😂.

[@Kaempfdog]

This is a great film. It has its problems and I won’t deny this part is without question my favorite sequence. I enjoyed Batman Beyond. (Nowadays I’m not entirely sure if Batman Beyond would beat Spider-Man 2099 for certain reasons) Mark Hamill as Joker is truly one of the greats in voice acting. I still can’t believe he’s Luke Skywalker too. I never knew that growing up and was BLOWN AWAY. Throw Fire Lord Ozai onto the stack and it just gets better. Don’t get me wrong I love Kevin Conroy but Mark Hamill has much deeper meaning to me.

[@snukastyle]

Of the Joker deaths I've witnessed over various media, Return of the Joker is one of the better ones. When it was first released the only available/TV version was the one where Joker got electrocuted offscreen-the gag gun double-shot was from a later unrated edition. My favorite was from one of the comics, where he dies by the hand of the resurrected Jason Todd; whom was the Robin that readers voted to have Joker kill in the comics in the mid-1980s. Blindness has its own spectrum of sorts. My father was born blind, but has had multiple surgeries that removed many of the cataracts that prevented his sight. But he's never neem fully sighted, and later in life has developed floaters that obscure his limited vision a bit. Meanwhile me stepmother I believe has always been fully blind. She was able to see bright lights if held against her eye, but alas lost even that bit of visual stimulation.

[@skullkap6746]

Harley’s brain being fried is from Suicide Squad, though the part where she gets thrown in acid is consistent with most continuities

[@dramspringfeald]

I support the white knight au as canon. Barby Quinn is some fangirl the joker picked up when he hit up a bank, meanwhile Harley Quinn herself got tired of the beatings and went straight, while working on a drug to make the joker sane.

[@kelvindavidsonjr318]

You should watch Batman Beyond

[@crcoghill]

... did you have to blur most of the video?😑

[@theduckgoesmoo]

Yep had no choice or else the video would be blocked in every country