The Kingsman Were WRONG! "Oxfords Not Brogues" Explained

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@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
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@nurumusa9912
@nurumusa9912 5 жыл бұрын
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@discordping5072
@discordping5072 5 жыл бұрын
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@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive
@AFCAWorldBodybuildingArchive 5 жыл бұрын
“Oxfords. Not Crocks“ - Kingsman. Words to live by 🙏
@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
👏
@bostonthefox9739
@bostonthefox9739 5 жыл бұрын
PREACH SON!
@nelg70
@nelg70 5 жыл бұрын
Amen to that.
@jerometubog2467
@jerometubog2467 4 жыл бұрын
I'm with you
@Briggie
@Briggie 4 жыл бұрын
Or the ultimate rule: "Never fucking wear Crocs!"
@felipecaceres7791
@felipecaceres7791 5 жыл бұрын
in the spanish subtitle of the movie Harry say "oxfords sin brogues" what means oxfords without brogues and i think this has more sense
@tobiasgorgen7592
@tobiasgorgen7592 4 жыл бұрын
In German he says: "oxfords keine Budapester" wich means oxfords no budepesters. Where Budapester is the German name for wingtip, fullbrogue Derbys with some additional features. So German was more spot on as well
@SansAziza
@SansAziza 4 жыл бұрын
English is highly ambiguous.
@RealCoolGuy
@RealCoolGuy 3 жыл бұрын
@@SansAziza It's very clear in English too; this guy is just doing clickbait for folks who didn't understand the terminology
@119Agent
@119Agent 3 жыл бұрын
I thought it was clear. I follow that rule -- I will never wear any brogue shoe.
@brutustantheiii8477
@brutustantheiii8477 3 жыл бұрын
They should have done it this way tbh
@YardenJZ
@YardenJZ 5 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure they meant "Oxfords, (that are) not Brogues." It depends on how you tone your voice.
@kfung4
@kfung4 5 жыл бұрын
From The Ground Up totally agree
@xell5252
@xell5252 5 жыл бұрын
In other words, the inflection
@YardenJZ
@YardenJZ 5 жыл бұрын
@@xell5252 Did not know that word, thanks!
@xell5252
@xell5252 5 жыл бұрын
@@YardenJZ you are very welcome sir
@a.m.m.4592
@a.m.m.4592 4 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@AcrylicM
@AcrylicM 5 жыл бұрын
I think what Harry really meant was "Oxfords, but without broguing". The true mistake was when Harry said that Oxford is a shoe with open lacing
@hariz8804
@hariz8804 5 жыл бұрын
aKirill i agree. The correct line should be “oxford without brogue”.
@christopherwilson88
@christopherwilson88 5 жыл бұрын
Yep, if you're going to be a snob about broguing you should at least know what an Oxford actually is *facepalm*
@Brakdayton
@Brakdayton 4 жыл бұрын
aKirill Harry actually says “Oxford not brogued.”
@Harry-ic8ih
@Harry-ic8ih 4 жыл бұрын
it’s because you’re an american mate
@keithrobinson9077
@keithrobinson9077 4 жыл бұрын
First shoe, with bar across toe, is called, a Gibson, Second shoe, is a Cambridge brogue, punched holes down the side of shoe, Then there is a oxford brogue,( most common), no punch holes down the side, mainly on an around toe area,
@markalvarado6716
@markalvarado6716 5 жыл бұрын
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@bikingbat
@bikingbat 5 жыл бұрын
To resume Oxford ( or Richelieu as we call it in France) is to be "opposed" to derby shoe. Brogue is just actually a decor in shoe. Harry should have telled "Oxford not brogued"
@stevenrose86
@stevenrose86 Жыл бұрын
I’m English and (at least where I live) Oxford would generally refer to plain/cap toe oxfords and brogues refer to and brogue whether an Oxford or derby (pronounced “darby” like the city btw)
@kurtgarcia7079
@kurtgarcia7079 5 жыл бұрын
Although Harry's description of the shoe was wrong, I think it can still be a good motto to live by, meaning "Always opt to be refined rather than casual. Don't just be a man, be a gentleman."
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
That's the wrong way to look at it. One should always strive for what is appropriate. You shouldn't wear hunting boots to a wedding, but likewise you shouldn't wear calfskin Oxfords on a hunting trip. There are many times when being casual is precisely what is called for. Real gentleman historically did all kinds of things. They didn't just sit indoors and drink tea. They did everything from hunting to warfare to even manual labor. They were well-rounded. All the pomp of rules of formality actually comes out of the middle classes, the "strivers" who are always trying to show everyone that they are "better" than the common plebs. Real gentlemen are secure in their station and have no need for such things. Rules like that are appropriate for the Kingsmen because they are servants (bordering on slaves, even) and expendable ones at that.
@joost5345
@joost5345 5 жыл бұрын
If you don’t understand what’s being said in the movie, you should go to London and work in the professional services sector for a while. You will get to know exactly what is meant: one does not wear brogues in town - ever. And contrary to what many Americans (I have noticed) tend to do: one does not EVER wear brown shoes to a dark suit.
@Fercho01
@Fercho01 4 жыл бұрын
Great video, Antonio! The phrase should have been “Oxfords, without brogues.” A brogue is not a type of shoe, but rather a decorative element. The type of shoe is the derby, as is the oxford.
@cosmicfails2053
@cosmicfails2053 2 жыл бұрын
Watch the latest movie, the King's Man and it will make more sense
@travl8138
@travl8138 3 жыл бұрын
First one is Oxford cap toe and it's the most formal shoes. 2nd is derby with brogue, informal, and the last one is Oxford with brogue, less formal than oxford cap toe.
@HuyNguyen-rz2ft
@HuyNguyen-rz2ft 2 жыл бұрын
We finally have the answer. In the newest movie, the original saying was "We are Oxfords, not rogues"
@RevJamesCostello
@RevJamesCostello 5 жыл бұрын
There is a scene in the film where the Harry character addresses the ‘oxfords not brogues’ term. He describes the oxford as ‘any shoe with *OPEN* lacing.’ It’s a deliberate error, surely.
@hariz8804
@hariz8804 5 жыл бұрын
Rev. James C yes, what a terrible mistake
@Tmanaz480
@Tmanaz480 5 жыл бұрын
Indeed...its right up there with Ian Fleming's "shaken, not stirred".
@ModernGrimm
@ModernGrimm 5 жыл бұрын
@@Tmanaz480 I'm pretty sure that was deliberate on Fleming's part. In Casino Royale he orders quite an elaborate cocktail, and only later switches to vodka martinis. It fits Bond's character, as shaking would dilute the martini more, than stirring, which means getting less drunk, which makes sense for a secret agent. Also, he orders it with vodka and not gin, further emphasising that despite the appearances, Bond is a brute.
@josephcampese5347
@josephcampese5347 5 жыл бұрын
@@ModernGrimm shaking makes any cocktail makes it colder. as for dilution it would be so minimal if at all, to be essentially irrelevant. besides the fact that if the all the content is drank, you've consumed all the alcohol anyways. the whole point of the shaken *vodka* martini had another element. any smart Englishman would never shake a martini ( you don't have to say gin that's understood, but you do have to designate vodka. ). if you shake gin, it bruises. the bruising is actually air bubbles and ice crystals from shaking. but doing so is, "bad form" as they say.
@ModernGrimm
@ModernGrimm 5 жыл бұрын
@@josephcampese5347 I guess you're right with the amount of dilution not being a factor in getting less drunk or hangover, but I think we both made the same point, that despite the appearence, Bond is unsophisticated brute. He basically violates every rule you might have with a martini. Vodka has less taste than gin (even less, if it's cold), and shaking does dilute cocktails more than just stirring - as you've said, it might not be enough to stay hydrated, but it definitely alters the taste. Add the bruising you've mentioned, and the result is probably a drink that you chug down instantly, rather than properly tasting and sipping it. So while he still orders a cocktail that might seem elegant to the uninitiated (a fancy martini with a unique signature twist), in reality he's going for a quick and easy buzz.
@MrRobVision
@MrRobVision 5 жыл бұрын
Dude u went way to deep into this movie quote... he clearly meant decorative brogueing on shoes is not for him or kingsmen. Which makes sense bcs they were historically nobility/white collar, born with a silver spoon up their ass, and would never have to wear peasant shoes with brogueing bcs they aren't farm hands walking through marshes. They r the elite, upper class. They r kingsmen. U could argue that eggsy could be badass and wear some oxfords with slight brogueing to rep his set. Lol
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
Historically gentlemen did all sorts of things outdoors, like hunting and horseback riding. Hunting boots would very often have broguing, as would other outdoor shoes. The "fashion rules" never really applied to actual aristocrats, but were adopted mostly by the middle classes trying to emulate what they thought the upper classes were like. A true gentleman is going to do whatever he likes doing, and is going to wear whatever is appropriate to the activity. Likewise speaking with a posh accent - actual aristocrats spoke like normal people, but the middle classes always tried to differentiate themselves from the poor. The same is true today. Billionaires wear what they want. They know they are not peasants, so they don't need to prove it. It's the middle class "striver" plebs trying to show that they are less plebeian than the other plebs. At least that's what's going on with "designer" clothes.
@nicademus8733
@nicademus8733 4 жыл бұрын
Yep RC nailed it. I truly believe it was meant to be a high standard dress code of a gentlemen. The video literally defines Brogues as more casual. Kingsman dont do casual when they are in official capacity
@Tourist1967
@Tourist1967 8 ай бұрын
Brogues are worn by the gentry in the country and with Highland dress. They are also worn with some uniforms in the British Army, particularly Scottish ones. The word "brogue" simply means "shoe" in Irish. The word is also used in Scottish Gaelic. If you said "wingtip" to a Briton, they'd assume you were talking about an aeroplane.
@alexwells2231
@alexwells2231 2 жыл бұрын
1 Oxford without brogue 2 Derby with long-wing brogue 3 Oxford with semi brogue Please note Derby is not pronounced Durby, it is pronounced Darby. It is a town in the East Mids of UK.
@TravWhiteStyle
@TravWhiteStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanation Antonio! In the video Harry actually says an Oxford is a shoe with an open-lacing system. Think the writers just fumbled that one. Should've brought you on as a consultant for the movie!
@mcmneverreadsreplys7318
@mcmneverreadsreplys7318 4 жыл бұрын
True! Nobody who knows men's fashion would say "Oxfords, not Brogues." And THAT is why it makes a good password.
@aarondaniel1974
@aarondaniel1974 5 жыл бұрын
Did you consider that he may have meant: "Oxfords without broguing"? "Oxfords not brogues" is just another way of saying "Oxfords not Derbies. Formal not brogued."
@alexpearce4040
@alexpearce4040 Жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I think he meant
@JKAV_76
@JKAV_76 5 жыл бұрын
Got all three and now im vindicated with my brogue jeans combo, it feels right.
@9897samf
@9897samf 6 ай бұрын
I believe a black oxford with semi broguing on the cap toe is versatile. It can be worn with business attire and casual clothes, even jeans. For example the Allen Edmonds Fifth Avenue.
@jhnwncr
@jhnwncr 2 жыл бұрын
in the new movie it finally answers our demand, in the movie that was set in the past, the phrase “oxford not brouges” was originally “oxford not rouges”. Maybe this is the reason why the phrase is like that, due to its heritage.
@satyenkulkarni5443
@satyenkulkarni5443 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting topic to take up, Antonio! I like it. It's informative, yet entertaining at the same time. Also, the dramatic music (4 answers, 3 shoes & Crocs) is hilarious!
@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone noticed the music.😆
@jasonkrick1614
@jasonkrick1614 2 ай бұрын
I just recently finally tried a pair of sandal like crocs. They are ah-mazing. Wore them to a Michelin restaurant last week with my lululemon and a t shirt.
@bluecobra6294
@bluecobra6294 3 жыл бұрын
Superb presentation, very interested in this shoe manufacturer and I believe the meaning of “Oxford not brogues” Is simply. This is business not pleasure.
@shiroshnur
@shiroshnur 5 жыл бұрын
Before I see the answers, I'll say one is a cap toe Oxford, two is a wingtip brogued derby, and three is an brogued Oxford.
@DocTravis87
@DocTravis87 5 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from this video. I never knew about open lacing vs closed lacing.
@kinolockhart4228
@kinolockhart4228 2 жыл бұрын
Always great tips Antonio
@1SportyBoy
@1SportyBoy 2 жыл бұрын
i once wore Oxfords with jeans but under a circumstance where it looked good: i wanted to go for a more texan style (and also a bit like Elvis) so i took a blue shirt, a white t-shirt to wear underneath, some gray jeans and blue Oxfords. All of that blended well and i got compliments for it
@canadafree2087
@canadafree2087 Жыл бұрын
Medium to dark brown oxfords go well with jeans. Brown oxfords would be against English style rules in the past but now English shoe makers are making them. Under English style rules, you wouldn't wear jeans either. Times have changed, and any effort to dress in anything other than sneakers will get you noticed.
@MrPrinceBela
@MrPrinceBela 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this particular scene from the movie, I also got the impression that the writers didn‘t know classic menswear too well as an oxford is referred to as „any formal shoe with open lacing“. They should‘ve studied your videos!
@stevenplayford8223
@stevenplayford8223 2 жыл бұрын
Traditionally in the UK. Brown leather brogues were a weekend country shoe. Not something you wore with a town style dress suit rather with tweed for country sports etc that would go with brogues. It's a bit like 'a man should never be seen in town wearing brown'. So traditionally an unbrogued plain black Oxford would be the correct shoe for a saville row style kingsman pinstripe suit.
@smacwhinnie
@smacwhinnie 4 жыл бұрын
Balmoral is closed lacing, Blucher is open lacing. Brogues have perforation of varying degrees. Don’t buy blake stitching, get Goodyear welts
@Jerry-tc5ik
@Jerry-tc5ik 5 жыл бұрын
Antonio, the answers were actually a cap-toe Oxford, a Wingtip Blucher and a plain toe with medallion Oxford. An important thing to note is that you don't call a shoe just by its decorations and you did that a lot (i.e. I have a pair of brogues, medallions, elastics and tassels), you call it by the style (such as Oxford, Chelsea, Derby) and then by its decorations if any. In the movie, Harry had a problem with Eggsy because Eggsy used "brogues" as if it was an actual style of shoes, and Harry was right to correct him. Oxfords, not brogues. If you walk into a shoe store and ask for a pair of brogues, the clerk is going to ask you to be more specific, because any type of shoe can have broguing. In my opinion, this video might cause people to start calling their shoes and boots "brogues" and perhaps you should update the video to be more clear.
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
To add to that, in practice I don't see any shoemakers referring to shoes as "brogues." Instead, they refer to a shoe as "having brogueing" or similar.
@ZannNewman
@ZannNewman 4 жыл бұрын
Also closed lacing shoes were less forgiving, size wise. Fine if you're having them hand made for you, bad if they're being mass produced. hence bluchers are open laced, so you can get a pair about the right size and get them to fit by lacing them looser/tighter
@Dorokira
@Dorokira 4 жыл бұрын
In Russian dub Harry said "Oxford, but not brogue". I think it has more sense
@turntablesrockmyworld9315
@turntablesrockmyworld9315 Жыл бұрын
First of all, great video. A video about a correction that also itself requires a correction; derbies and bluchers are slightly different types of shoes. Yes, some people call bluchers, derbies and vice-versa in common parlance but they are different. I think also, with the movie error, many people use "brogues" as a substitute for derbies as you say, more casual shoes have broguing, even though this is an incorrect description.
@danielcherry4675
@danielcherry4675 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else noticed how Harry said "An Oxford is any formal shoe with open lacing) ??? Completely wrong yet the shoes in frame were indeed Oxfords
@BokMah78
@BokMah78 Жыл бұрын
Everyone who has made a video making this point has left out the fact that the brogue in the shot in that scene is also an oxford. & I don't know if you noticed your own mistake in calling a quarter brogue a semi brogue. But semi means half. So a semi brogue & a half brogue are the same thing. So the 3 types of brogues are quarter, semi, & wingtip. (I have seen wingtips without brogueing on them before. I don't know what to call those)
@hans_nektarinko
@hans_nektarinko 5 жыл бұрын
Great video @Real Men Real Style, shoe types in a nutshell. However imo what he said was meant to be understood as:" oxfords WITHOUT brogue." Why did't he say it like that? It doesn't soud that epic. And what would he mean by saing:" oxfords without brouge?" Well as you said, brouge is more of a casual shoe type. I guess it was meant this way:" Stick to the basics" or something like that.
@ProducerLare
@ProducerLare 5 жыл бұрын
👍👍Thanks Antonio! Sounds like the Midwest cold/snow got to ya (you sound ‘stuffed up’) I sure don’t miss that WI weather! 🤒 Get Well Soon!
@twoonthewall
@twoonthewall 5 жыл бұрын
Put simply, never turn up to business or interview in anything other than plain black lace up shoes that are highly polished.
@flamadiddledoo
@flamadiddledoo 4 жыл бұрын
twoonthewall never wear brown to town
@ron7202
@ron7202 4 жыл бұрын
The first shoe is an Oxford, or cap toe, or cap toe Oxford; no brogueing. The second shoe is a Balmoral with brogueing; because the brogue is continuous, front to back, without a break. The third shoe is an Oxford with brogueing and beautiful. Brogueing is a decoration/ perforation added to the seam. Brogue is not a type of shoe, it's a feature. Just like leather interior is a feature.
@fit4xlife
@fit4xlife 3 жыл бұрын
First type of Brogues Antonio is showing on 3:05 really are 1/4 or Quarter Brogues, or more correct Punched Cap Brogues because Quarter Brogues can have side broguing not only along the seam of cap. But they don’t have Medallion and Wingtip. And Semi Brogues really means the same like Half Brogues. So in this video there are mistakes too, not only in Kingsman.
@waranghira
@waranghira 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. But the gradient vignette gray background makes it look old. Can't go wrong with a flatter white, med gray, dark gray, or black.
@travelightly
@travelightly 4 жыл бұрын
What I’d really like to know is where to pick up a great pair of dress shoes in Rome or possibly Athens-$300-$500 price range.
@SynysterVlad
@SynysterVlad 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe he (Harry) wasn't talking about the lacing system. But more of an advice of what to wear: Your oxfords; as the most formal and elegant kind of shoe, but without the ornamentation, so Eggsy would look foward to a more clean and elegant style, proper of a Kingsman.
@davidthompson6834
@davidthompson6834 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve a pair of my dads brogues over 60 years old. Built like dreadnoughts
@williamkazak469
@williamkazak469 2 жыл бұрын
A great discussion. I have purchased a number of Church's Shoes before Prada in various styles of Oxfords with and without broughing. Tan looks great in the summertime. Also white bucks.❤
@RealCoolGuy
@RealCoolGuy 3 жыл бұрын
The two are not mutually exclusive as this gentleman pointed out... The character in the film told him to wear "Oxfords not brogues" meaning that he should wear Oxfords without brogues...any English speaker would understand this.
@dgale1023
@dgale1023 2 жыл бұрын
You must do a great job in advertising, I really watched that sponsor. You made it sound I've got to have those shoes.
@TeenageDays
@TeenageDays 5 жыл бұрын
Bro my channel would have been sky rockin if I had the ability of yours to explain..great job man.
@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. Big fan of Kingsman?
@redscale82
@redscale82 4 жыл бұрын
Only have a pair of boots with brogue wingtips. Love them. Yet looking for a good pair of brogues for my kilt.
@PsychoticEGG
@PsychoticEGG 2 жыл бұрын
He actually explains the differences in the movie. And if you actually pay attention you can catch what makes an Oxford and what makes a brogue. The line oxords not brogues was not meaning pick oxfords over brogues but rather that an Oxford style is not a brogue. Yes an Oxford can have brogue work on it but it doesn't replace the style. Watch the scene again there's a slight inflection to his voice when he says it in the scene describing the difference which helps you understand what he means. But you need to understand British accents to catch it. Every other scene doesn't have that inflection because it's more important that the line is a spy greeting than a description.
@hanifhamdi6919
@hanifhamdi6919 3 жыл бұрын
So glad I could get all the answers right. 😌
@AnCoilean
@AnCoilean Жыл бұрын
Brouge comes from the Irish word for shoe (bróg) so in a way all three shoes were brouges.
@irishn8
@irishn8 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think he was saying "black, not white" i understood it as "black, not shiny". Does that make sense? He was saying to wear oxfords that arent brogues.
@zebwheeler5683
@zebwheeler5683 5 жыл бұрын
It really annoys me when Antonio says Derby pronounced Derbee rather than Darbee, I do know it is the American pronunciation, but it still gets me😂. Keep up the videos Antonio!
@DWilliam1
@DWilliam1 5 жыл бұрын
The term is broguing. You are correct on all.
@goldwinger5434
@goldwinger5434 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, I like Crocs. Great for camping, running out to the mailbox, taking out the trash.
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
Yep, you should always wear shoes appropriate for the occasion or activity.
@descb1060
@descb1060 4 жыл бұрын
​@@whitemakesright2177 In the case of Crocs its an occasion or activity where there's no chance another soul will ever see you.
@marcografvonpartagas
@marcografvonpartagas 2 жыл бұрын
Ah… you see this is a lack of understanding on your behalf. What he meant was for formal business attire, black oxfords are the order of the day. Oxfords with brogueing are semi formal shoes, whilst brogues are casual shoes (as you suggest).
@mrchaudhary.07
@mrchaudhary.07 5 жыл бұрын
Very informative video. Now I can differentiate between oxford and Brogues and Now I can decide that which one to wear with formal dresses ❤
@digitalaether
@digitalaether 5 жыл бұрын
I don't think Kingsmen was saying Oxfords instead of Brogues as if they were mutually exclusive, but rather were saying choose non-brogue oxfords, i.e. that they were recommending against #2 and #2 from the 3 example shoes, despite the fact that #3 was an oxford. I think it was recommending the more simple, elegant, plain oxford. Its dressier than the brogue oxford.
@turnerruby7705
@turnerruby7705 4 жыл бұрын
This video has made shoe shopping infuriating! LMAO The number of companies that make dress shoes and do not know the distinction is ridiculous. Searching for oxfords on some of their sites will pull up a wide variety of open-laced shoes that are labeled as oxfords... smh
@Niidea1986
@Niidea1986 4 жыл бұрын
I only use brogues, they let the foot breath, which is great here in warm climates
@johnmostellar1319
@johnmostellar1319 5 жыл бұрын
It's pronounced "Blu-ker" not "Blu-cher." For reference, see the movie "Waterloo" starring Christopher Plummer. Other than that, great explanation on the subject.
@chrishalle1982
@chrishalle1982 2 жыл бұрын
The first is an plain oxford, ghe second an derby brougue, the third was an oxford with brogue.
@vicentecervantes7229
@vicentecervantes7229 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe he meant in a figurative speech, "you are now entering a secret world, no longer being part of an open network" by saying "Oxford's NOT Brogues" just saying...........🤔😋😁
@ravipeiris4388
@ravipeiris4388 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thank you. Honestly, the go to video to understand the main difference between Oxfords/Brogue/Derbie shoes.
@Aragorn1964
@Aragorn1964 5 жыл бұрын
Colin firth was right in the film. Oxfords that are not brogues is a good rule. I don’t think what he necessarily implies that all oxfords are not “brogues”. I agree, I’m not a fan of a broguing except for maybe on a brown boot. This is also a judgment I think on a Derby, which I agree in the case of wearing with a suit an Oxford is the better choice..
@discordping5072
@discordping5072 5 жыл бұрын
I love Oxfords and Brouges! I kind of love my grandfather's favourites.
@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
I do too.
@BluTrollPro
@BluTrollPro 4 жыл бұрын
Man, come here off of a movie quote to be told my suit/office shoes are casual because of the lacing. Nobodies commented to me, and I like my Derby with chunky rubber sole
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
99% of people these days don't know the difference. To most people they're just all "dress shoes," including wingtips and even loafers.
@res00xua
@res00xua 3 жыл бұрын
I have bought 6 pairs of shoes from Beckett Simonon as well as belts, a brief case and a back pack. Very High quality leather goods that are worth the wait.
@gxvault4166
@gxvault4166 Жыл бұрын
All those "casual" shoes look amazing with a suit and tie, much better than jeans and shirt.
@ReesieWorldPeace
@ReesieWorldPeace 5 жыл бұрын
All Oxfords only! This video is an essential piece in fashion knowledge.
@kolauttaja9447
@kolauttaja9447 2 жыл бұрын
They probably ment by that that no derbies since those can often have brogues
@b.sharp.
@b.sharp. 5 жыл бұрын
Out of all of the style rules I've learned from Antonio, this is the only one I don't follow. In fact, I go out of my way to break it 😜
@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
You can break rules if you know what it is.
@b.sharp.
@b.sharp. 5 жыл бұрын
@@RealMenRealStyle but when you do, make sure you're not breaking more than 1 or 2 rules on purpose at the same time!
@josephcampese5347
@josephcampese5347 5 жыл бұрын
@Mr. Sharp...I agree. Brogues have so much more styling and craftsmanship in the making of the shoe, it's hard to fathom that some 200 year old idea is so steadfast.
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
Really there are no "rules," per se. Only what is deemed appropriate for certain outfits and certain situations. If you understand those things, then you can wear whatever you want. Sometimes you want to intentionally wear something on the borderline or something that is outright "inappropriate." Sometimes you want to be creative, sometimes flashy, sometimes subtle, sometimes even gaudy or tacky. But you never want to do that unintentionally out of ignorance.
@Manuel421
@Manuel421 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for always being engaged with your audience and responsive when you have the chance. Next year I'll be entering my 30's so been trying to upgrade my wardrobe little by little.I'm still gong to keep my short sleeve button downs as I feel they would be good for certain occasions like the beach, a theme park, or even just going out doing errands; however I will buy long sleeves for formal situations ones that are more for things like Church or job interviews...etc..the long ones I have now are more BBQ or different get togethers with friends or family. Sorry hope my comment isn't confusing. To clarify: 6 Dress shirt long sleeves casual,5 Dress shirts business related/Formal and around 5 short sleeve button downs.The numbers might be a little off but I'll post a short update next time that's more accurate:)
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
Personally I think short sleeve button-downs are great for casual wear. They go great with jeans or chinos in a variety of situations. Especially in hot weather, they are much more comfortable than long sleeves, even with the sleeves rolled up.
@williamkazak469
@williamkazak469 2 жыл бұрын
@@whitemakesright2177 That is why I would prefer linen, either short or long sleeved without button down collars.
@lionelgarcia2386
@lionelgarcia2386 2 жыл бұрын
He probably should have said something like smooth leather Oxfords not brogues. Shoes intended to dress more formally. Kingsman don’t dress informally. Or if he wanted to discern between formal and less formal, the movie phrase maybe should have been “Oxfords not Derby’s.” And then display these two styles side-by-side when he selected the Oxford shoes for Eggsy to try. Then he could have said “and never broguing.” That way less informed people won’t be confused to know broguing are also on Oxfords. And of course on Derby’s. The movie caused unnecessary confusion.
@05Rudey
@05Rudey 2 жыл бұрын
Turns out, Oxford is the surname of the Kingsmen founder.
@TheNunakun
@TheNunakun 5 жыл бұрын
What confuses me is that a whole-cut can pass as extremely formal (possibly even white tie level) or casual with a pair of jeans. Never seen another shoe that has that spectrum.
@whitemakesright2177
@whitemakesright2177 4 жыл бұрын
I think it's because it's such a blank canvas. It doesn't have any decoration at all, so there is nothing to make it especially formal or especially casual. Kind of like a white shirt - a white shirt goes with anything because of the absence of color.
@declanbartlette3074
@declanbartlette3074 5 жыл бұрын
3:04 - I don't mean to be a "brogue snob", but that is a quarter brogue.
@fit4xlife
@fit4xlife 3 жыл бұрын
You are fully right because first type of Brogues Antonio is showing are Quarter Brogues, or more correct Punched Cap Brogues because Quarter Brogues can have side broguing not only along the seam of cap. And Semi Brogues really mean the same like Half Brogues. So in this video there are mistakes too, not only in Kingsman.
@jessemalan748
@jessemalan748 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the education. I really appreciate it.
@sriramvinayagamurthy
@sriramvinayagamurthy 3 жыл бұрын
why would he say "an oxford is any formal shoe with an open lacing system". I thought it was the opposite.
@anshdaga
@anshdaga Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the informative video but to understand why Harry says that watch the prequel to the movie It gives the explanation to why he says that
@glauroo.junior83
@glauroo.junior83 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wear Oxfords. I have high feet and the stitching presses against the skin. It's uncomfortable.
@lohengrinknight
@lohengrinknight 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, give this man a beer, please. He's very right.
@xaviermercado5639
@xaviermercado5639 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video. Very informative.straight foward
@lenmiller8574
@lenmiller8574 5 жыл бұрын
Good information Antonio. I “thought” I understood the difference in shoe types before. Now I DO.
@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Super!
@Shaikailash1
@Shaikailash1 5 жыл бұрын
Great explanations with a lot of useful infographics. Thanks! New sponsor after Ace Marks? Have you checked Velasca's shoes, of so what do you think?
@RealMenRealStyle
@RealMenRealStyle 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I haven't - what's good about that brand?
@rmcdaniel423
@rmcdaniel423 4 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought . . . the "fancier" the shoe, the more casual it is?
@jeremiahkivi4256
@jeremiahkivi4256 11 ай бұрын
Always viewed Brogues as more formal over the Oxfords. They are more decorative, ergo fancier.
@matejkincl
@matejkincl 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, antonio, The most formal type of brogues is actually called a quarter brogue. Great video, man!
@JohnDoe-iw5jg
@JohnDoe-iw5jg 5 жыл бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong, but i swear the shoes in the bottom of the thumbnail are half oxford brogue
@Rev03FFL
@Rev03FFL 5 жыл бұрын
Oxfords not brogues, wasn't style advice, it was a secret pass phrase. As such I suppose it makes some sense that it wasn't intended to be a phrase anyone would actually say.
@Myrslokstok
@Myrslokstok 5 жыл бұрын
Rev_Logos Semanticly any phrase can mean anything, people have a hard time to get that.
@EnergyEruption
@EnergyEruption 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Antonio! Why do you think Hart wrongly says that oxfords have open lacing? Deliberate or writer's error?
@protoman2260
@protoman2260 4 жыл бұрын
Would tan oxford wingtips still be too formal for jeans or chinos ?
@StatelineSportsPod
@StatelineSportsPod 5 жыл бұрын
Beckett Simenon does not carry wides. A word of caution for my fat footed brothers. Buying a half size up is no good either. If your not sure that they will fit do not buy them and what for them. Bite the bullet and buy AE. They do carry a wide variety of widths.
@bradyevans9114
@bradyevans9114 5 жыл бұрын
just picked up some Cole Haan Oxfords....Great advice
@wu_1116
@wu_1116 4 жыл бұрын
You are mixing up Blücher and Derby shoes, those are different shoe models although both with open lacing.
@hkj73
@hkj73 5 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video. Thank you Sir for the info.
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