The Last Jedi SPOILER PARTY Don't Watch

Just some initial thoughts and reactions.
Click the biggest spoiler people shouldn't look at if they haven't seen the movie yet:
C-3PO explodes - / jennynicholson
Rey is a child of the Force - / jennyenicholson
The Knights of Ren are the entire cast of Star Wars Rebels, except Sabine which did that feel a little sexist to you - / spider_jewel
Captain Phasma dies but will come back with mechanical spider legs - / spiderjewel
Turns out Snoke is adopted - / jennynicholsonvids

[@mdr48371]

Trapped in A Island with Luke Skywalker

[@Slenkz]

mdr48371 LMAOOO

[@ShaunCheah]

This comment is somehow even better the second time around.

[@Ránshāo47]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@SoundAuthor]

Congratz. You've won the comments section of this video.

[@littlelordfuckleroy3822]

I actually laughed out loud, great job man

[@H3LL3nK1LL3rASSO1ATS]

My biggest problem with The Last Jedi? Josh Hutcherson wasn't anywhere in that island

[@rumrunner8019]

LOL! I hope Jenny saw that one!

[@almenajamband9206]

I love that guy.

[@dibsdibs3495]

And he didn’t blow anyone’s whistles!

[@Howdyrobin]

I'm really glad that they didn't overdo the porgs to much. It wasn't minions levels of porg, like they aren't in every single scene. They are cute and loevable, but don't distract from the whole movie.

[@darkprose]

And one is killed and roasted over an open fire and then discarded rather than becoming food for a character we love, making its death double pointless. How many minions had that fate?

[@TheNefastor]

I'd argue that if they _had_ distracted from the rest of the movie it would have been a positive thing.

[@markwelsh5005]

I like the way Jenny didn't overdo the porgs as well.

[@danzigvssartre]

Snoke: take that ridiculous mask off. Kylo Ren: Awww. But all your guards are wearing red buckets on their heads.

[@ipsojure2137]

danzigvssartre yeah butttt... that's different

[@MrDj232]

Snoke: Take that ridiculous mask off, I can never tell if you're making faces at me under there.

[@NumeMoon]

"Take that ridiculous thing off." To all the kids in the theater wearing Kylo masks, I completely understand why I saw a couple of you toss your masks in the garbage on the way out. The critic that said it all, a 9 or 10 year old kid's reply to his mom when she asked if he liked the movie. "It's stupid." (Tosses mask like Luke showed us how to do with his lightsaber.) Normally I'd think a kid like that is a brat, but I was in the same mood, so I can't judge.

[@lisasowa1195]

I prefer to think that Kylo started a trend. Nobody wore a mask before him and Snoke fucking hated when everybody suddenly started To wear one

[@KO-vb4tg]

@@NumeMoon old comment I know, but… Snoke is the bad guy? The mask isn’t any more ridiculous than anything else we see people wearing. Snoke is just being a bully.

[@genericgorilla]

The horse race thing was super uncanny. I couldn't stop thinking about your bingo video the rest of the movie.

[@nerdcity]

Immediate laugh at how big that Porg pillow is

[@humanemulator5297]

His name is big porg

[@Jkdabomb10A]

Weird crossover.

[@OtterMunchy]

It's fun to see nerdcity in here...I like when the SmartTubers watch each other.

[@dannydethanos6994]

It reminds my of 4-5 ft tall hedwig

[@taylor11111]

Miss u fam

[@EganTheDoneDunne]

Can we talk about the one guy at the end who just like. Licked salt off the ground and said "it's salt"

[@JennyNicholson]

Gonna get a lot of mileage out of that reaction gif

[@ShaunCheah]

I, too, was thinking of the reaction gifs in that moment. But I wanna be that guy. If I'm ever in a desperate last stand at the end of the worst week of my life with my closest comrades and surviving buddies, I wanna hope that I'll be prudent enough to take a finger, run it across the floor, stick it in my face-hole, and loudly declare the groundtaste to my fightmates.

[@EganTheDoneDunne]

Groundtaste is the worst ASMR you'll ever hear

[@chaos.corner]

Good job it's salt and not arsenic, I guess.

[@tommytowse96]

Egan Dunne he licked salt ....... What's the big deal weirdo

[@quilespiritu]

Rewatching this video post-TROS makes me feel sad. I keep getting a disappointed feeling of longing for the movie we will never get.

[@NinjaSox7]

Yep...

[@Dagenspear]

That sounds not too far than how I think some may have felt about TLJ after TFA.

[@limberstilts2419]

@@Dagenspear It's how I felt about Star Wars in general after TFA came out

[@moproodu]

@@limberstilts2419 Man we're just working our way backwards

[@c.h.a.s.e.]

I actually felt this about TLJ after it ruined everything about TFA

[@hollandscottthomas]

"Assistant managers gone mad with power" is exceptionally apt.

[@kathrynolsen1256]

hollandscottthomas this is my favorite analysis of all time.

[@viridimagoria1778]

Assistant to the galactic manager

[@LinaIsNotANoob]

It was hilarious to me in the movie when Snoke said he was the one doing the connection, because I pictured him as a rabid ReyLo shipper, just yelling "KISS DAMNIT!"

[@Hoopla10]

I pictured him like a guilt ridden parent fretting on the extension knowing they shouldn't be eavesdropping but still unable to hangup. In the background would be the other parent looking on disprovingly, not sure who'd that would be, Hux maybe. The two sitting in the same bed together, Hux reading a magazine while Snoke covers the mouthpeice of the phone and listens in. Some much needed SnUx insight.

[@phoenixdzk]

Snoke: take that ridiculous thing off Kylo: takes off the mask Snoke: No! Your shirt! Take off your shirt!

[@jfhm1991]

BEST INTRO ENTRANCE EVER

[@SmokeDog1871]

ya made me insta like

[@bigbakaboon]

For some reason i can see jenny being that nerdy girl who's trying to be seductive, but instead of seducing you, just falls off the bed. Which i somehow think is more adorable?

[@idontcare6736]

Please take your horny fanfic somewhere else

[@VoidedMirror]

Needs to be a gif.

[@JakeRat-xo2bw]

"Assistant managers gone mad with power", I can say from experience that this is the scariest villain there is.

[@nope9233]

Rey and Kylo bang and the force ghost all watch and look at the camera and Yoda said “this Star Wars been going on for infinity” and the avengers theme plays.

[@ShaunCheah]

Yes.

[@JOHN-kc1pw]

Nope92 That’s canon.

[@a_single_white_female]

Basically nailed it

[@aandwdabest]

That’s canon.

[@jemmerx]

That would have been better than what we got.

[@peteryuthrayard838]

Jenny has a better average of correct visions than most jedi or sith. She is the Supreme Force User!

[@IloveGorgeousGeorge]

Her and Redletter Media are amazingly prophetic

[@thomashonjr]

"Giant Porg. Huge. Gracious. Powerful. 11 out of 10."

[@Crosshair250]

Oh my god one of the YT channels I followed did a "30 things that TLJ did wrong" list and at the begining said how much he loved Rouge One! How did you know?!

[@MichaelJ9999]

I guess it shows she's strong in the force.

[@KeymoEmbryo]

cause Edgelord's expected TLJ to be a much darker film, but it had a bit more laughsauce than they expected, so they was wrong and left pissed off

[@rafaelscatena7997]

R1 is a masterpiece TLJ is trash.

[@thejawgz6719]

Rogue One is no masterpiece, but it's 10 times better than The Last Jedi. So is Solo for that matter, but not by as much.

[@susannam3923]

Rafael Scatena lol you just watched a video that said the exact opposite... so for the reasons stated above I respectfully disagree

[@calistman222]

"Assistant Managers Who have gone mad with power"

[@ShaunCheah]

Assistants to the Regional Managers.

[@jeremiahpuebla1242]

I died

[@annaciummo3911]

Just rewatched the movie and you forgot one bingo square! Kylo Ren DOES cry real tears after he kills Snoke and all the Praetorian guard dudes, when he's talking with Rey. You did better than you thought woot woot

[@baguettegott3409]

Also I think 7.5 feet snoke was really close, I think she should get that one as well

[@Vale-fd4pk]

i didn't like the movie, but hearing someone who liked it so much makes me happy anyway .

[@didoudab7804]

[@KeyBladeMaster-Dan]

I wish all Star Wars fans were like you

[@SchulzEricT]

I see a few people who appreciate your attitude in the replies. Um... while, in general, I lean towards pessimism but appreciate the value of optimistic people, I try to mostly appreciate their positivity rather than find it annoying, for this thing specifically... nah. Appreciating shitty movies made by uncreative people for a massive company such that it makes billions of dollars rather than tanking and forcing said company to instead hire creative people and leave them alone... it perpetuates the problem. I want everybody to acknowledge that it was shit, and work towards tanking it, so that we can get better movies in the future, instead of continuing to get shitty movies made by hack writers who think they're talented because their incoherent, poorly written and paced stories with shitty characters makes enough money that they aren't forced to acknowledge how shitty and hack-y and untalented they are.

[@britneyhochman5204]

@@SchulzEricT Honey? What was that thing Ms. Nicholson said about saying nice things? 🤐

[@NinjaSox7]

Literally the best youtube commentor

[@charlescampbell5894]

4:07 Rogue One did get a shoutout, Garreth Edwards, the director was the guy next to the guy who said "It's salt," after touching the ground on Crait

[@shanedorman9356]

Wouldn't that be crait bud

[@TheCheat_1337]

There were a few others she missed. Porgs did die because Chewbacca was roasting a few on Luke's planet. Kylo Ren did cry real tears, Snoke looked to be pretty fricking tall (not a giant, but tall), you could argue that the Rebels/Poe shouldn't have trusted Laura Dern because she didn't tell Poe the plan, maybe Rey cut a limb during the fight in Snoke's room, and Rey does swim, she doesn't "learn" how to swim, but she swims.

[@Arezius]

I knew this face was familiar! thanks

[@JoanieDoeShadow]

Crait.

[@roguishpaladin]

*Krayt. Also, if that's Gareth Edwards, then the "It's salt" reference just became 1000x funnier.

[@projecta]

The wittiest comment about the movie ..."They are now the assistant managers who have gone mad with power"!

[@bobofthestorm]

That scene when Yoda was dropping acid telling Luke to burn the tree.

[@adamtherock2008]

“Some good shit this is.. hmmm” as White Rabbit starts to play.

[@p4easy7]

holy shit! i can't stop laughing

[@alexarias5717]

beautiful

[@umerrno1978]

Yoda knew the books were gone, but let like die thinking they burnt. Is he gonna be like phyc when Luke turns up in the afterlife?

[@rumrunner8019]

Everyone in the theater cracked up when Yoda said "read them have you? But liked them did you? Page turners, they are not."

[@Cassandra112]

Fight with two halves? no way. Friendship kyber crystal necksabre!

[@areese4044]

That bit about the Legends books burning and Luke saying 'go to hell Timothy Zahn' had me dying laughing. The sad thing is that some people really feel that was the point of the movie.

[@kathrynolsen1256]

a reese just a little bit.

[@kidwajagstang]

No, the reason for these films was to push political agendas because the most powerful people only see Star Wars as a powerful vehicle to use to spread their ideologies. They don’t actually have any reverence or respect for the story, movies, characters, etc.

[@k.-flynn]

@@kidwajagstang Politics? In my Star Wars? ... really?

[@KD-ou2np]

@@kidwajagstang politics like what?

[@mattbounds]

@@kidwajagstang The original trilogy is about a band of freedom fighters taking down a fascist regime. They're literally called Stormtroopers. Star Wars has ALWAYS been about politics and ideology.

[@thucydides_groupie]

Not gonna lie. The compilation of your correct predictions is a little spooky.

[@ShaunCheah]

At this rate, Jenny'll have basically written the script for Episode XII by the time Episode X is in theatres.

[@dohnjoe3180]

Less "spooky" and more like they let the Internet write the plot, since everything in it basically became a parody version of itself.

[@theautarch7837]

What I'm really perplexed about is Luke's robot arm. Did it ascend to the Jedi afterlife with him? I didn't see that shit fall off along with his robes.

[@aserr5660]

The Autarch lolololol

[@bend.543]

If that’s was the case then ghost yoda wouldn’t have his cane

[@theautarch7837]

Yeah, but the Light Side of the force usually represents natural forces, compared to the Dark Side which treats technology - particularly prosthesis - as the symbolic corruption of characters. Yoda's staff is wood, formerly a living thing, and furthermore, is not a lost limb. If Anakin Skywalker gets to look like Hayden Christensen when he passes to the Force Afterlife, why doesn't Luke get his arm back, and why does his inorganic, non-living metal arm transcend with him? Just saiyan...

[@orangeapples]

The Autarch I think people get to pick and choose what things they take with them. Anakin abandoned his whole Vader suit and came back as Anakin. Like probably thinks the robot hand is cool so he took it with him.

[@ActuallyDoubleGuitars]

I think it be cool if what happened was he actually transported himself somewhere.

[@BoshPlays]

I just came here after watching your Rise of Skywalker video. The difference in your reactions is actually quite amazing. You're visibly excited by events in TLJ and genuinely disappointed and disgusted by events in TRoS.

[@timmaximilian9286]

Oscar Guerrero ditto

[@silvermagpie1071]

@Oscar Guerrero the thing is, there's a lot of the SAME stuff that's treated different ways in the different movies' reviews

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Rey's parents being jerks was one of my favorite parts

[@angrydrunkengerman2819]

Why?

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Angry Drunken German It makes her really human and fascinating a character to me. She's been obsessing about her family for years when deep down she knows they probably never really cared about her. Also it's such a clever subversion of the 'chosen one' trope. It shows you don't have to come from an important family to be a hero. To me it's one of those storytelling decisions that are shocking but at the same time you're like "of course it makes so much sense". But, you know, that's just my opinion.

[@angrydrunkengerman2819]

The fact that she's not special is what makes her a Mary Sue. When you look back at the prequels you see Anakin the exact same way. He was a male Mary Sue. And it's horrible writing, but some excused it because of Lucas saying "he was created by manipulating bla bla bla." It was a crap excuse then and it's a crap excuse now. Only now there's not even a lame excuse...

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Angry Drunken German i'm sorry what's a mary sue?

[@angrydrunkengerman2819]

A Mary Sue is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Often, this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment. They can usually perform better at tasks than should be possible given the amount of training or experience. Sometimes, the name is reserved only for women, but more often the name is used for both genders. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Sue It's basically an OP person that has no reason for being great other than the creator wants them to be for selfish reasons.

[@kueller917]

It's so surreal seeing this in the immediate aftermath before the hell of the fan response that still won't go away. I remember leaving this movie feeling the same. I thought some was a bit strange but I loved it overall and thought most would think of it at least as an improvement to The Force Awakens. I was not ready for what was about to happen.

[@s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657]

I regret being so hard on the movie at the time. I don't even know why I was so mad.

[@SeanDSarcasm]

lol yeah it sounds like it was a real life altering event for ya.

[@kueller917]

@@SeanDSarcasm Well it did take over my KZbin recommendations bar for like a year no matter how much I tried. So it was definitely an "era" if I wanna be dramatic about it.

[@SeanDSarcasm]

@@kueller917 wow sounds like a real life altering moment hope you got some counseling and are healing up.

[@kueller917]

@@SeanDSarcasm It will take a long time for the scars to heal of being slightly annoyed at some thumbnails.

[@tomlangford1999]

I thought ROS would be bad. I didnt expect it to be as bad as it was, and I definitely didn't expect it to ruin the message of TLJ as well as the message of the entire original trilogy

[@badnewsfairy9181]

'assistant managers gone mad with power' excellent

[@TheBooReview]

Anybody else think maybe Rian Johnson just stole all the ideas for the movie from Jenny?

[@orihalchon]

Well.. he follows her on Twitter. So there's that.

[@tnightwolf]

Gotta love sarcasm...now that's a kind of humor that works on Star Wars.

[@90lancaster]

No Jenny's daftest comedic mussings are still substantially more coherent than this movie is. Oh and my horrible thought for the day is Kylo+Rey just might be inspired by TWILIGHT !!!

[@mishab4065]

I didnt see Rey shooting lightnings as Palpatine and Poe didnt randomly get his leg cut off... so no, Rian is blind and deaf to Jenny's wisdom

[@TheBooReview]

Hmmm... I sense a decent conspiracy in the making. We just have to ignore all the things Jenny got wrong.

[@bjbarlowe]

They didn’t burn the texts! Rey took them. You see them in a drawer at the very end.

[@PATOOFA]

Seriously?

[@liteoner]

Was gonna say it. Yoda tells Luke that Rey is already in possession of those teachings, but it's only at the end of the movie that you learn that it wasn't a figure of speech.

[@janNowa]

@@liteoner That was too subtle for my feeble brain it seems. I had no idea.

[@Flowtail]

She is gonna get ALL up in that borderline-fanfiction of the Star Wars universe

[@____uncompetative]

Fif Gallag The ancient texts won’t do Rey any good. Jenny established in her other video that Rey is illiterate.

[@andrewmcmillan229]

LOL at you spoiling the movie for your downstairs neighbor Also, Matt the Radar Technician was right, Kylo Ren does have an 8 pack!

[@OpticalResonator]

That dude is on old school Russian steroids. So beefy.

[@blakebleeds]

In the middle of the dramatic silence when Admiral Haldo commits suicide, some dude farted. During the entire scene, people were trying to hold in their laughter. RIP Admiral Haldo.

[@robertpaulson31]

I've watched too many Jenny videos recently. I swear she was one of the female pilots early in the film.

[@1080TJ]

Your bingo card is missing an X - BB-8 DEFINITELY got a confirmed kill at the end there

[@stozico]

BB-9E, not BB-8

[@krishacz]

BB-8 got a few kills too in the hacked walkers.

[@roguishpaladin]

BB-8 is a bloodthirsty little droid. Maybe HE'S the ultimate enemy of the trilogy?

[@hawggie]

It's missing 2 X's: Kylo's tear and Snoke's height. He's definitely taller than the 6'3" Kylo, so 7 1/2" is close enough

[@nick-kd2yx]

TJ Hastie love strange mercy so much

[@raimo1985]

09:18 Assistant TO the regional manager.

[@werdna_sir]

Thrawn should have appeared and taken control. That idiot Hux couldn't manage his way out of a brown paper bag.

[@WilliamUniverse]

Lord-JP Hey! Hux could.....get.....out..... actually...... no no he could not

[@gypsywelter236]

WHO PUT MY BLASTER IN JELLO

[@tinfoilslacks3750]

Hux sells propane and propane accessories

[@dntthe88]

I didn't hate the movie, in fact I liked most of it. There were just specific moments I wasn't big on but I think it would have been a significantly better movie had Rian Johnson directed the entire trilogy with a cohesive style versus the foundation and ending being done by a errr less talented director. The shifts between the 3 movies is a bit jarring and the Force Awaken was a pretty uncreative movie. Rian is a fantastic director and it cannot be easy to just jump into someone else's vision and try and shape it to yours.

[@azogtheuglee4889]

the weird director tug-of-war going on between movies really hurt the trilogy I think. It's very strange that the Disney even allowed RJ to ignore the other guys vision for the trilogy like he did. Disney paid a million billion moneys for the rights to Star Wars so you'd think they'd have an iron grip on production.

[@willow5945]

The Rise of Skywalker is in many ways The Force Awakens' shadow. One is an essentially benign reboot-sequel hybrid, remaking the plot of an older franchise but continuing the broader elements as well. The other is an unnatural twisted expression of malignant fan service.

[@Connor-bp9nu]

Completely agreed

[@mai_komagata]

@@baguettegott3409 I dont think there is a particular disconnect between 7 and 8, i mean, no more than between 4 and 5... I mean, if people like Jenny are able to predict a lot of movie bits, it means it followed pretty standard storytelling conventions. It was a "yes, and!", not a "no, but!" like the rise of skywalker was. I read a lot of fan predictions for episode 8 and a lot of the story beats (kylo and rey's relationship, a downer ending, luke having done something bad to be in exile, etc) are pretty on the ball for a second installment.

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Do a video "Top 10 worst reasons you didn't like TLJ"

[@SuperMovieLvr933]

Carlos 😂

[@SelahViolinist]

PLEASE JENNY

[@autodidactpolymath1851]

Definitely "it had women and black people, therefore a Marxist plot"

[@ZachBobBob]

THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

[@kingpin6989]

Yes! PLEASE!

[@mikelor84]

during the ending credits, when suddenly I read "In loving memory of our princess Carrie Fisher" and they played Leya's theme...I choked up

[@macejaso]

Loser

[@mikelor84]

here's your bag of attention.

[@anonb4632]

I didn't. The payoff was that she had to be represented by a lump in a bedsheet in the ROS.

[@uchuuseijin]

Man after watching this movie I was so excited to see Episode 9 and ugh

[@AlterDieg8]

I like Luke's rant on Jedis

[@JoanieDoeShadow]

AlterDieg8 I loved that it felt like a double-edged sword cutting at George Lucas. Yoda's dialogue about masters also had that subtle implication.

[@ARDreamy]

AlterDieg8 He basically says the prequels suck

[@JoseRS1186]

Yeah, that's how you show love to a 40 year long series. Shit on it like that incredible hit reboot Lone Ranger was.

[@a.morphous66]

​@@ARDreamy I don't think that was the point. I think he was actually expanding on the themes of the Prequels. It was pretty explicitly laid out that the Jedi in the Prequels were complacent and arrogant, so they were totally unprepared for everything and Sidious had basically a free ride to the top. I had always gotten that message from them, so having Luke confirm it was more of a validation of Prequel fans than an insult.

[@polaberonilla2622]

I want that juicy porg meat.

[@lordchebos3391]

Holy shit was that a Red Letter Media reference!?!?

[@lenonel3286]

I saw a RLM reference and I clapped!

[@Brinz420]

That cooked porg looked fucking tasty

[@jonq8714]

Slow down, we hardly know each other... things are moving too fast.

[@funguy8801]

We all know when the camera panned away, Chewie chowed down on that juicy porg pork.

[@cloudboybebop]

man i love this movie and i have no fucking clue why people hate it so much.

[@StillOnTrack]

My whole theater was audibly going "OH SHIT" during the silent moment of the light-speed ship-ram.

[@god8483]

Johnzilla That’s quite possibly my favorite scene in the whole saga.

[@Albee213]

If that would work, why wouldn't you just made weapons that do that.

[@bdk1993]

Albee213 I think it only worked because it was a cruiser-class ship being rammed into the dreadnaught(?), and thus it would be counter-intuitive and extremely expensive to pull off continuously.

[@StillOnTrack]

Yeah that was my guess too, that it was because of the size and mass of the ship that the shockwaves created by warping spacetime had such a big effect, so wasting that much money on the construction of something with that much size and mass doesn't seem cost-effective, especially not for the rebels. At the very least though they should look into how to do a kamikaze warp like that remotely, without having to sacrifice anybody in the event that it's their only option.

[@trapical]

Yes, they used a huge expensive cruiser to do it, but it utterly obliterated and ripped the entire dreadnaught in half. That means they could use a much smaller, cheaper ship, and it would still cause massive damage (even if that isn't enough to rip a dreadnaught in half, it would still cripple a larger opponant) Also, even if we pretend that it only is effective if a large cruiser does it... during the Death Star battles, the Rebels had large cruisers just as large as the one in this movie. When they were scared the Death Star was about to blow up Yarvin IV, why didn't send one of their same size large cruisers right into the Death Star's weapon? If it could rip a Dreadnaught in half, it would have at the very taken out a huge chunk of the Death Star.

[@ShaunCheah]

All those original comments lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to repost.

[@MrCantStopTheRobot]

Were they guilty of wrongthink? Has Big Mouse gotten wind?

[@darkprose]

After the prequel trilogy and the adequate and inoffensive _Force Awakens,_ we finally saw what a creative and skilled writer/director could do with _Star Wars._ That hadn’t happened since 1980. I think fans just gave up expecting these movies to be great and they clearly had no idea what to do with it when it happened except pine for mediocrity again.

[@alexturlais8558]

Best comment I've seen all day.

[@darkprose]

@@sircaptaintm4983 _The Last Jedi_ is the best _Star Wars_ movie from every angle you care to look at it. Its plot is more satisfying, its visuals more unforgettable, the action more dire, the deaths more meaningful, the effects more spectacular, the writing more insightful, the comedy more relieving, the heroism more striking and the themes more compelling than anything before it. (To balance the Force, the cinematic follow-up is the ridiculous parody of _Rise of Skywalker,_ a mindless, lazy pastiche of all the worst banalities that _Last Jedi_ entertainingly exorcized.) If you hated _The Last Jedi,_ you love _Star Wars_ for all the wrong reasons. I am still so disturbed by the response from self-described “fans.” Episode VIII has a character and a vision that apparently had no place in the Skywalker saga-it was _too good._ It is the only movie from any of the trilogies that fully delivers and surpasses the cinematic promise of _The Empire Strikes Back._ It made me love this franchise again and believe that the best _Star Wars_ stories have yet to be told. I am still willing to give _Star Wars,_ regardless of the production company, the chance to redeem itself. If we have to wade through tedious and unnecessary origin stories and prequels and series to find another gem like _Last Jedi,_ I think it’s worth it. That galaxy is still rich with potential for imaginative filmmakers willing to take _risks_ to find them.

[@thepaintingbanjo8894]

Either Disney's Star Wars writers are taking notes of Jenny's early predictions, or she might as well be just psychic. Because holy shit.

[@cally77777]

ThePaintingBanjo I thought that too! As I don't really believe in psychic powers, I wondered if the film writers were watching her videos. Well why not, you've got to get your ideas from somewhere!

[@victor7gomez]

Do we know Jenny's last name what if she's really a Kennedy or a Johnson I even got a far out there Theory it could be Lucas. I have many Jenny parent fan theories.

[@peterbune]

It is obvious to me upon watching the end of this video that Rian Johnson is a Jenny Nicholson fan.

[@SuperMovieLvr933]

He does. He likes many of her tweets.

[@lidu6363]

But... Snoke was pretty tall...

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Ludmila Marešová andy serkis said he's like 9 feet tall.

[@eloujtimereaver4504]

His lightsaber scorched crop top would make an acceptable shirt.

[@joechops90]

The discussion on the delightful absurdity of Kylo Ren randomly deciding to wear the helmet is A+

[@advfs]

After the First Order sends all of their fighters after the Falcon. Finn says (something like) "They really hate that ship"

[@procinctu1]

Another stomach-turning, terrible line from that bad movie.

[@TannaleahCornell]

0:04 Oh my god YOU’RE SO CUTE JENNY STOP 😂🥰

[@balladofolivia]

real😊😊

[@alive_in_tucson]

I wish they would have put Carrie Fisher’s dog Gary playing cards with other dogs on canto bight.

[@MashinBug]

People getting upset about spoilers when there are spoiler warnings LOL

[@goodthingenthusiast9436]

I'm only a casual Star Wars fan, but I could listen to Jenny talk about it for hoouuurrss

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

The Throne Room scene was so spectacular I loved it

[@Golemoid]

Yeah especially when they killed off Snoke like he was a nobody.

[@Carlos-ln8fd]

Bolek Lolek It was the opposite of that! Snoke is the great villain. He's the unstoppable mastermind behind the First Order. Then Kylo Ren murders him, turning the movie on its head. I thought it was such a clever plot twist that made the film completely unpredictable. And believe me I prefer a movie with an exciting and unpredictable story than one where they keep every character alive because they're afraid fans might run off if something too unexpected happens.

[@pete7164]

Carlos it was even better the first time, at the end of Return of The Jedi

[@theautarch7837]

Did anyone else think that Snoke's outfit in that scene made him look like Goldmember from the third Austin Powers movie?

[@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg]

What a fucking disaster that whole scene was.

[@tipoomaster]

Yeah, the whole two ships chasing each other was really odd. Could they not have called other ships to warp in on the rebel ship in 18 hours? In almost all other star wars media, including all the previous movies, a ship can jump in on a pindrop.

[@alexmarenco2399]

tipoomaster i also thought that. They couldve sent a star destroyer to pop up in lightspeed in front of them, just like Vader's destroyer did in Rogue One. Also its stupid that Snokes dreadnought could not penetrate the shields of the Radus, but Poe in his xwing could destroy everything in the first dreadnought like if it didnt have any shields.

[@dorianleakey]

I felt they had an idea that worked for their narrative, they liked it, they forced it in, but it didn't pan out the way they needed. Basically they needed Finn and er, new character, to go and get something essential, they need to have a reason for wanting it, so the whole Chase scene was envisioned..

[@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg]

Han Solo literally jumped right into a planet's atmosphere IN THE LAST MOVIE. There was absolutely no reason for that slow-motion chase whatsoever. This whole fucking movie was a disaster.

[@enman009]

I know it's weird, but as I remember, they address in the movie that the Order's ships are bigger and slower than the rebel ones, and they're slightly far away from them.

[@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg]

Yeah, there was one throwaway line that hand-waved the logic of why they're in a slow-motion chase -- something that has literally never happened in Star Wars history, ever. When the entire premise of your film depends on a single line casually explaining away something that makes NO SENSE WHATSOEVER, you have big problems. Anyone who thinks this is okay is just searching for reasons to like this shitty movie. How about this, Rian Johnson. In the opening of the film, the Rebel fleet gets into a life-or-death battle with the First Order ships, and destroys nearly all of them -- except for one, their largest. Both sides took heavy losses and the Rebels are down to a few damaged ships that are low on fuel. The remaining First Order ship is so heavily damaged it can't go to lightspeed and it can't communicate -- it can only pursue the rebel fleet at minimum speed as they make repairs. The Rebels know their only chance is to get to the planet, but they also know it's only a matter of time before the First Order repairs their ship and calls in for reinforcements or makes a lightspeed jump to catch them. Wow I just rewrote the entire plot of the movie in a way that actually makes sense and provides natural tension without depending on a nonsensical premise that nobody can buy into. And it literally took me fifteen seconds. Good to see the gang at Disney really earning those millions of dollars.

[@Frankiigii]

Star Wars has never produced a classically great film. It's not supposed to be some epic soliloquy. It's not meant to be an artistic masterpiece. It's fun, and a little cheesy, and novel. In my opinion, if I'm entertained and there's decent character development and chemistry then I'm happy. This was so entertaining and exactly what I expect and want from Star Wars. Not the WWII in Space lameness of RO.

[@LiamCameron77]

Potato Girl but you were still supposed to be invested in the characters and the story, which i was barley in either for the most part. Although if you think differently I accept that

[@Brandon-vy5kv]

Empire is widely guarded as the best sequel of all time and one of the best movies of all time

[@Frankiigii]

Angry Witch I've never seen it in any Greatest Film type discussions, but who know.

[@Frankiigii]

Liam Cameron I was invested personally, primarily in Rey and Kylo, but I enjoy all the characters.

[@Indienads]

Yeah, Empire is widely regarded as a great film. It was selected to be preserved in the National Film Registry, among other accolades.

[@jankdotTV]

do you think Hux kinda liked it when Kylo choked him ?

[@JennyNicholson]

Okay

[@greenmanproductions7318]

“Harder daddy” “What?” “What”

[@cfytcf]

Supreme leader, please... maintain eye contact!

[@SwiggleMcJiggle]

I'm pretty sure Hux is going to try to betray Kylo and die as a result of it.

[@brianalawless749]

Screw reylo man we need some pasty emo action between kylo and hux

[@Claverleykid1]

Overall I enjoyed it quite a bit. I enjoyed poes arc of learning to be a leader and not be a hot head. The ideas the film presents like whether the goodies and baddies are really that different is quite revolutionary for Star Wars, I wish the film dived a bit deeper into that stuff. Kylo saying "let go of the past" felt like a message to the audience which I liked. My problem though is Rey's arc. Rey throughout the film learns that everything isn't what she thought; her parents aren't important, luke skywalker is a lonely man who thought about killing his nephew and therefore birthed kylo ren. Rey, it feels like is being set up, that it worked so well for her last time it must now, so she goes to ren convinced she will save the day. Turns out she played right into the villains plan and now made ren the new leader, like a son with his dad's nuclear codes. Rey makes quite a lot of mistakes here, but she ignores them and continues on in the falcon. I would have loved to have had a scene or two of her dealing with her fuck ups. At the end of empire luke had lost his hand, his best friend, and had learnt his dad is Vader. Suddenly it's not as simple as he thought, but he's going to keep fighting with these new lessons learnt. Rey doesn't seem much at all affected. Rey feels at best like she is half way through an arc and this trilogy will be properly enjoyed when all 3 films are available. Unlike the original trilogy where all films stood by themselves. Kylo ren once again stole the show for me.

[@JoanieDoeShadow]

Claverleykid1 I disagree that Rey is unaffected.

[@silverfangmoonhunter]

Yeah.... I was never one of those people who said that Rey was a "Mary Sue" or whatever other terms they throw around now but I did start to feel like she got more than a couple of free passes in the movie. Ironically, she's the character I enjoyed the least. I didn't hate her, but Rose, Finn and Poe were a lot stronger characters in this film imo.

[@Claverleykid1]

She was certainly my least favourite character. She does fit the Mary Sue profile, she is too good at stuff without much reason and in TFA solved most issues by herself and never needed help. This is in contrast to Luke who even at the end of JEDI needed to be saved by his dad. People will throw out Bruce Wayne as a male equivalent but we know how and why he is well versed in many subject to do with fighting crime and on top of that in his origin movie he regularly fails and needs help. In TLJ Rey at the least needed help from Ren and they tried to explain it away as "raw strength" similar to Kylo Ren. Kylo is flawed and has clear struggles and in writing terms is a far more stronger character than Rey. The scene where Rey was in the lift with Ren and it mirrors Luke and Vader from JEDI didn't work for me. I just don't buy Rey would be that sure of her 'Jedi'ness'

[@Emanuela9]

I enjoyed when Leia shot Poe. I couldn't stop laughing. 🤣

[@poontang3zizo]

Yes, Poe ended up causing the deaths of hundreds of people and executed a mutiny but all is forgiven. Great character arc.

[@TimeandMonotony]

Oh my God your videos are great, why am I just now seeing them? I loved The Last Jedi too, so it's always nice to see some positive fan reviews!

[@Astr0Pr0j3ct]

It’s the worst movie of all time

[@elephantchessboard9060]

@@Astr0Pr0j3ct Did you like Rogue One?

[@Aisubun]

@@Astr0Pr0j3ct axe 'em literally exists

[@gizzylaserfoot2604]

I picked up on a bit of foreshadowing about Luke on Crait. First of all, Luke isnt making any salt footprints. Secondly, he's using his old blue lightsaber (which doesn't make any sense because Rey has that lightsaber).

[@SezMisery]

Nater And it just broke. Cool that you mentioned the foot prints. I didn't realise that!

[@catandthesixxness]

That lightsaber is Ben Solo's. That's why Luke threw it away. That's why Han asked Maz were she got it. In the scene you see Luke standing over Ben you can see that Ben's saber is a perfect replica of Anakin's. Kylo Ren even told Rey "That lightsaber is mine."

[@krombopulos_michael]

I didn't pick up on that, although I did notice in retrospect that it was weird how he did all that crazy limbo stuff instead of just blocking Ben's attacks

[@glennuendo]

that's not what foreshadowing means

[@glennuendo]

i woould say it's a red herring

[@Con5tantine]

But the Jedi Texts weren't burned. They were on the Falcon. We saw them at the end when Finn was looking for a blanket. Yoda was correct, Rey had everything she needed :)

[@nerad1994]

PlasmaX Luke taught her three lessons ... although for some reason we only saw two

[@PetersonSilva]

"he already learned from Yoda and Obi-Wan that jedi failed in the past and had students turn to the dark side. He would not have gone into a 15 year depression and blamed himself for that long because he lost a student" My friend he was ALONE. In a huge universe he was the ONLY jedi. And he didn't really have experience with this turning to the dark side thing, he only "heard" of it. He was not only full of hubris, but the responsibility fell super heavy on his shoulders. He had no one to help him, and only himself to blame. Plus it was not any student, it was his nephew; he feels he failed the Jedi, himself, Leia, Han, the universe... "Rey ... with no training was able to pick up a lightsaber in the Force Awakens and make a trained fighter look like a fool". As Snoke mentioned in this movie, he did look like a fool but then again he was broken by having killed his father. This thing about "let the past die" is what he MUST tell himself to justify everything he has gone through. Plus, Rey was pretty much the only light side force user, like Snoke said, darkness rises and light to meet. Force was channeled into her pretty strongly that is why she displayed such strength, she was overflowing with the force.

[@PetersonSilva]

Bud you can be a Star Wars bitter, butthurt hater all you want. The problem is somewhere along the way your suspension of disbelief cracked and you can't put it back together; since you do not take the movie at its word, and you do not assume it's telling you a story in good faith, it doesn't matter anymore what anyone says. Rey has always fought well, albeit with a staff, because she had to learn how to take care of herself in Jakku. We see as much in TFA. She just adapted her style to lightsaber, plus there's the awakened force itself. Also, to say Rey fought better than Kylo is just your opinion, which I find weird (but then again, it is explained by the fact that you don't trust the story anymore and will find any reason to dislike it); Kylo fought more adversaries at once than her and didn't get injured as she did. Another example of the fact that you simply don't trust the movie: yeah, Snoke was killed. This is not contradictory (Snoke wasn't all that great), but rather telling (Kylo became GREATER). Luke: he was young. Yes, he felt alone and yes, he almost was brought to the dark side, but this experience is nothing like being a master yourself and having a student turn. They are very different things and contexts. About the humor, well, it's very subjective, I won't argue that. So, in general, you're falling prey (or using) the fallacy of numerical superiority (yeah, sure there's 1 good review for every 15 bad ones, only people who hate it are motivated to waste their times bashing it. Don't be ridiculous) and being really arrogant about this whole thing (reviewer agrees with me and doesn't like the movie = intelligent review). Ugh.

[@ChronoGamerOne]

5:44 LOL "Luke's like 'Go to hell Tymothy Zahn" and I'm like 'That's a little gratuitous...'"

[@darkthorpocomicknight7891]

Then JJ "Luke's like 'Go to hell Rian" and I'm like 'That's a little gratuitous...'"

[@TrioPack2222]

I love Jenny's soothing voice.

[@arnoldmanuel3311]

You should work for FilmTheory and replace MatPat, because he keeps making theories about the Star Wars movies that are completely wrong.

[@drzaious8136]

arnold manuel All his theories are taken from other peoole. He just goes on Reddit, KZbin and Facebook finds the most popular theories and either combines them or just retells them in his own way.

[@travus111]

He just does the juicy ones

[@dyladino]

arnold manuel he's so bad at movie theories

[@ChrisMcSweeney]

He's been very unlucky. I blame inconsistent writing on Disney's part, as MatPat's raitonale is always spot on. For instance, if his Rogue One theory had been right it would've saved the movie. It would've been a great tie-in to the new trilogy. Instead the suits and Disney pussed out and gave us garbage.

[@ShaunCheah]

MatPat may make the most sensible in-universe theories, but Jenny takes the metasituation into account with regards to dumb studio things like a Alien Horse races and such. She's in there deep; that's why she's so good at this.

[@narratomancy]

I’m laughing I’m watching this just after a conversation with someone claiming tlj was worse than the prequels and he also said he loved rogue one in said conversation

[@CarlosAugusto-rv6op]

But rogue one had darth vader. I remember him, i remember his costume! He was in star wars! Therefore, the movie is good.

[@o...o4144]

@@CarlosAugusto-rv6op no, you are wrong! Darth Vader is not as good as the fact that all the main character die! Such a scary and dark movie! So complex!

[@archer1949]

Hux’s Starscream to Kylo Ren’s Megatron. BRING IT ON.

[@DocAcher]

This. lmao

[@Treggify]

Yoda's quote was the highlight of the film for me. Something to the effect of "We are the thing they grow past."

[@ZachBobBob]

Honestly that line absolutely blew my mind

[@minecraft_geek2344]

that is the true burden of a master

[@Outsiders5135]

We are what they grow beyond

[@Hotdogwateryum]

Edgy

[@Ralster]

Page Turner's they are not

[@katieoneill7808]

I appreciate the positive review! I liked that it was a very interesting and fresh movie because nothing can last forever if you don't take risks. They're bringing back Abrams for episode nine, but I hope that he keeps a bit of the style of the Last Jedi.

[@VoidedMirror]

Nope.

[@zombieGI]

This is a test for ADHD before it's a review

[@alisaurus4224]

😢😢😢

[@vitormadisantanna8652]

That not aged well

[@oldthinkertube]

The elephant in the room is that the propelling through space idea was nicked straight from nutty professor 2.

[@Daniel-sz5tn]

That's not an elephant it's just a big porg

[@Cleavatr0n]

Daniel Osborne He’s talking about Leia flying like Mary Poppins

[@redwaldcuthberting7195]

Straight over your head that joke.

[@oldthinkertube]

Yeah Brian, in fact I've got a petition going to force Rian to add in the fart sounds.

[@90lancaster]

The elephant in the room is that the fleeing through space idea was nicked straight from Battlestar Galactica

[@ehrlicharenthall9357]

Best scene for me: Luke passes to the Skywalker Theme in the glow of a binary sunset. That scene was really appreciated by myself. It was a full circle character arc that took 40 years to close.

[@demongoose666]

Fikash yeah I think that’s how visual storytelling works

[@Maloman05]

@@ForNoOne1 Maybe him looking out for purpose into the sunset and him finishing his journey and adventure in front of a similar sunset is supposed to show that the hope that inspired him is still alive. Have you ever seen a movie before where they don't tell you every single meaning in a voice-over?

[@DIVAD291]

@@demongoose666 I don't understand your argument. So the guy pointed out that it was poorly done visual storytelling. Why did you point out that it was visual storytelling? It sounds like you believe that because its visual storytelling it couldn't have been done poorly. But that doesn't make any sense.

[@DIVAD291]

@@Maloman05 "Have you ever seen a movie before where they don't tell you every single meaning in a voice-over?" Im pretty sure the scene had a voice-over of someone yelling as loudly as possible "THIS SHOULD INITIATE AN EMOTIONAL RESPONSE". I think it might have been like a dog whistle that only worked on people with an IQ above 90.

[@davidv4018]

@@Maloman05 If there is some voice over: "what are we. stupid?". If there isn't any voice over "What? Luke just vanished without explanation? did he learn to fly hyperspeed now? This movie is so dumb"

[@kj6731]

The absolute guts on this woman to put ‘do not watch’ on the title of her video and know with absolute certainty people are still gunna watch it

[@krudmonger]

I was most shocked by the cameo by Jimmy Scrambles.

[@Elle-db9xn]

`Silence` Jenny: `pops out from behind porg` Who's ready to talk about The Last Jedi? Me: `hits like button immediately` Haha

[@PaperbackWizard]

Need a gif of that.

[@tcgoofer]

Hit like button immediately watched the review, changed it to dislike...

[@Elle-db9xn]

Haha, aw, oh well. Did you disagree with her or something?

[@tcgoofer]

yeah, didnt like the movie at all.

[@Elle-db9xn]

Ah, fair enough. I loved the movie personally but I know a lot hated it

[@Fritzvalt]

Rewatching this during the 2020 election because Jenny jumping out from behind a big porg is the kind of energy I needed today.

[@s.l.thecoffeeaddict1657]

"I know everyone's complaint about this movie is going to be that it's too long." Why did that hurt *so* much?

[@THATGuy5654]

Because it was real... ...ly optimistic.

[@baguettegott3409]

@@THATGuy5654 lmao this comment wins Not just because of the Lindsay Hobbit reference, but also because it's so true.

[@bravetherainbow]

"Rey and her friends are separated for most of the movie, so we basically have two movies that are stuck together" in other words it's The Empire Strikes Back again

[@weirdguy1495]

In more ways than you realize.

[@sanninjiraiya]

I personally liked the moment where Kylo killed Goldmember

[@Trustworthy_McLegitimate]

I'm The Heroic Protagonist that gold robe was the ONLY THING he was wearing...

[@patrickquion4447]

Oh my god. Ohhhhhh my god. Jenny. You pretty much nailed Reddit's reaction to the film with the whole Rogue One "because it's edgy" thing.

[@gothic2fans233]

I have just seen it and i don't know if i ever was so excited in the cinema. Starting from the moment when Rey and Kylo entered Snoke's chamber i was just moving my legs up and down from adrenaline. I think it was a little bit too long and i felt Rose wasn't very interesting, i felt no chemistry between her and Finn. I had tears in my eyes when Luke died. By the way, my number one wish for the final episode is to see Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan and Hayden Christensen as Anakin.

[@KoonsieN7]

I found this in the year of our lord 2019 and I think this has to be the greatest Star Wars shit post ever. I loved it. I loved TLJ and I'm glad you liked it too.

[@jonathanfesmiresteampunkau6983]

Finding out that Ray's parents were just some junk traders as great. Turns out that when she said she was "no one" in The Force Awakens, that was foreshadowing.

[@TheClovenHoof666]

I am a big Star Wars fan and I was really disappointed with the Last Jedi but I also am the contrary to your theory Jenny as I agreed with you on Rogue One I was not the biggest fan of the film and just because they throw in a cool Vader sequence that does not change my view upon it. and I liked the Force Awakens because as you say it served its purpose of introducing new characters but TLJ should have progressed certain characters further go more in depth instead they just killed off a load before we found out any more about them. And I'm sorry but that Leia space moment was absolutely ludicrous...I couldn't believe that the writers went there.

[@dalellll]

I love that this was done before the inernet started collectively whinging, so we all get to remember how awesome it was when we first saw TLJ and not have to engage with the lame fanboy criticisms of it. I was convinced it was going to be known retrospectively as a classic.

[@Mythraen]

"so we all get to" As a member of the unqualified "we," I have to say... speak for yourself. I disliked this movie a lot. I can only remember bits and pieces of why I disliked it. I know I didn't like how Poe's arc played out, or... anything at all about the lady with the purple(I think) hair... or anything about Rose. I also have no idea how one acquires the "lame fanboy" label. Is it not liking the movie? Did I do it?

[@JD-jz5gu]

@@Mythraen I think its more like we who all liked it.

[@TkOHarley14]

I think the majority of people didn't like it. I remember me and the two friends I watched it with coming out of the cinema very disappointed in it. And most of the fan reviews I read right after that were pretty negative. It's just not a very interesting movie IMO, certainly not one I'd want to rewatch. Yoda was very good though.

[@jmwilliams88]

13:42 "Like if you can't say something nice don't say anything. Which is a funny approach to take to like a product made by a large studio." -- Flash forward to 2024 to Jenny giving the ultimate Disney product takedown

[@xGhostCat]

The BOOKS were on the falcon at the end btw!!!

[@xGhostCat]

Also on her bingocard Kylo did shed A tear. She did put tears lol! Also the Limb cut thing was close too as Rey cut a guys head off!

[@ShaunCheah]

xGhostCat, I was really hoping she was gonna cut Ben's hand off when he offered it to her. He's got that Skywalker blood; the prominent male in each generation has gotta lose a hand at some point, that's just what Skywalkers do.

[@silverfangmoonhunter]

Shaun Cheah yeah honestly I fully expected her to ignite the lightsaber through Kylo's hand during their force tug of war match.

[@mistersplice]

I expected her to mention this...

[@caseyboyden]

You missed one! There actually IS an indirect Rogue One shoutout. The small fighter that Kylo Ren flies is called the Raddus, named after Raddus, the Admiral Ackbar looking fish face general from Rogue One. Apparently this ship was named by Admiral Ackbar himself in honor of Raddus. EDIT: Not Kylo's fighter. Actually the Resistance capital ship

[@andyknb]

It's not Kylo's fighter though, it's the Resistance capital ship

[@martinwhosoever]

Lightspeed tracking was also mentioned in Rogue One, when Jyn is looking for the Death Star plans, when mentioning the names of the other projects.

[@caseyboyden]

Sorry, my bad. i got mixed up. That makes way more sense.

[@JAFOpty]

What about Mary Poppins Leia ? Can they make an umbrella with a Kyber crystal?

[@redlightmax]

+JAFO-PTY Leia Poppins is a thing.

[@JAFOpty]

I laughed out loud when I saw it... kind of a Guardians rip-off?

[@angrydrunkengerman2819]

That will be released in a limited edition, Toys-R-Us only, foil packaged action figure with under 10 million units created...

[@kaileewalden3586]

+JAFO-PTY Not a rip-off as much as a decent concept made comical by the poor direction of that scene.

[@JAFOpty]

Kailee Walden I agree

[@aidengoodrich5974]

people crituqing new star wars movies The force awakens: the movies to predictable The last jedi: the movies too unpredictable!!!!

[@alexturlais8558]

I want the new movies to be exactly the same as the original trilogy, but also they have to be original. And they need to not change the lore in any way, but also use the force in interesting new ways. They cannot bring back characters like Palpatine, but they also cant introduce new characters without at least 3-5 films of backstory and a relationship with existing characters. Now why wont Disney make a film like the REAL fans want?

[@ashtonrooks7899]

This movie's real problem was that it crammed three mostly unrelated plots into one film. How do we know that? Finn and Rose fuck off for 3/4 of the movie to seek out a maguffin that didn't even work because the rest of the movie's plot still had to happen. Rey spends half the movie getting what amounts to a 5 minute lecture on force basics before getting mixed up with Kylo and F/O in ways that could have had nothing at all to do with the rest of the plot right up to the point where they contrive a reason why she ended up on the ground with the rest of the resistance again. Both these plots coul be easily severed, which is a hallmark of them both being grafted onto the main plot. Instead of rushing to get this "episode" out, I would have done two side-movies. First, contrive a different reason for Finn and Rose to go on basically the same adventure and more time dedicated to digesting the arms sales to both sides. Show us why the F/O is bad beyond vaguely authoritarian ways and angry pants speeches that convey nothing. Second side story with Rey/Luke/Ren could retain basically all the same material elements, just not conclude with literally crashing through the front door of the trapped in a cave plot. Then you get to 8 and suddenly you have way more screen time available to show why characters treat each other the way they do, why admiral evening gown doesn't trust Poe enough to explain her plan, and enough time to show why Luke has a big change of heart and shows up at next to the last second to intervene. Most if all, you don't have an absurd situation where within the same 18 hour window, Poe's friends zip across the galaxy and have entire adventures all their own and still have time to come back for the last stand. Also, doing it this way gives you an opportunity to develop the F/O so you have a better sense of wtf is the point of them, rather than just a grab bag of menacing traits crammed together with nazi imagery.

[@FrancescoDondi]

@@alexturlais8558 it's not unpredictable, it's just bad. Really at some point you start predicting that everything that looks any good will be subverted and revealed to be dumb and meaningless, and you're right every time.

[@jasongeorgis3483]

Returning to this review 2 years after TLJ came out I actually had to check the release date to see if the division in the fanbase had begun yet because when Jenny said "most people who won't like it will probably complain about it being too long" is either so blissfuly ignorant of the toxicity or Star Wars fans or an epic trolling line.

[@alexturlais8558]

I think she was genuinely unaware, like noone would have expected it was as bad as it was. Like some of it was always going to happen, because star wars fans hate most new things, but noone could have predicted that such a great movie would be so controversial.

[@jasongeorgis3483]

Alex Turlais yeah based on when this review came out (and some of the comments she’s made about TLJ in other videos) I do think she was unaware of what would become of the discourse around the movie. It does kind of blow your mind to go back and watch the reviews prior to the backlash just because people were so straight forward with their opinions and not trying to pander to the other side at all.

[@tlozfreak888]

@@alexturlais8558 I mean, Mark Hamill was pretty aware it took a strong turn and was saying as much beforehand IIRC. But I think that got lost all the same cuz disney was like "hey. stop that. bad mark"

[@alexturlais8558]

@@tlozfreak888 yeah Mark did say that he knew it was controversial, but I'm not sure anyone could have predicted how controversial it ended up being.

[@Renoistic]

It's just that the loud minority of toxic fans has found ways of being REALLY loud, unfortunately. Most people said "it's alright" and went on with their lives.

[@DrRaadM]

The black and red evil BB-8 prediction still blows my mind.

[@PinkSkunkSleepy]

Leia Poppins makes me want to see this, but I'm scared I'll burst out into laughter

[@ryanhalo789]

Yeah, it's fucking hard to take seriously. Like force powers, cool, but she literally just flies in space like nothing.

[@Bat-talk]

Oliver Aelius hahah it did look like mary poppins yall

[@drzaious8136]

Ryan Johnson Lieah literally uses a force shield and pulls her self towards the ship. Not too far fetched or silly, in my opinion.

[@QwertyByte]

Not too far fetched DrZaious, except that we've never seen a person propel themselves with the force before. We've only seen them manipulate other objects. She wasn't necessarily using some sort of force shield either. We humans haven't done experiments to confirm this, but we can probably survive the vacuum of space for a number of seconds. I'm so glad the movie didn't show her frozen solid or something like a lot of films do. Heat dissipation takes time in a vacuum, dammit!

[@MicoDossun]

QwertyByte what are you talking about? In episode I they use the force to go really fast and in all the prequels Jedi use the force to jump really high

[@toincoin]

Saw this with my friend. She did enjoy it but wasn't nearly as hype as me. Said she had to think on it and sort out how she felt. She said it had a very different feel from past Star Wars. She really likes Rogue One

[@connorblake7487]

I thought this film was a fantastic middle chapter. When it works, it REALLY works. I loved watching our younger characters learning to lose. Poe, Finn, Rey kept constantly thinking they could just will their way forward if they believed and tried hard enough (Rey thinking she just go convince Kylo to turn, Poe ignoring orders and losing all the bomber ships, Poe and Finn's failed plan to deactivate the tracker, Finn going full speed ahead at the cannon even though there was no way he was deactivating it). After watching things just ultimately work out for them in TFA, it was great to see them lose and react to that failure. My biggest complaint was that there wasn't enough consequence to their hubris. Dozens and dozens of faceless Rebels die as a result of their plans, but it's hard to feel the weight of that when we have no attachment. I personally loved the revelation that Rey's parents are nobody. Any other reveal would've been underwhelming and cliche in my opinion (i.e. having her be Leia and Han's long lost daughter, or be Luke's long lost daughter, etc). Plus it gives off that great Spider-Man-esque theme of ordinary people stepping up, doing the right thing, becoming heroes. It could've been anyone who was granted that power. And she ultimately has to chose to be apart of this. Not because her parents are or an ancient jedi master told her it's her destiny but because it's the right thing, much like Finn. The choice is an essential part of the hero's journey. Luke made the choice (granted even had the knowledge Darth Vader "killed" his father) But Rey has to make it with no ties to any of it. And people saying Rey is a Mary Sue....uh... yeah kind of, but what do you want? Do you want to see montages of her training for months? Do you want her to have been training for years before the story? I mean, there's no pleasing anyone. I always viewed her unlikely aptitude as the force rising up to balance Kylo and the sith, as Snoke stated. There's a lot of little moments of deus ex machina in this film, but it was so fun and such a great middle chapter that I didn't mind so much. Anyway, I loved this movie, I haven't even touched on the visuals either, and they're one of its greatest strengths. And plus there were no climatic light-saber battles. No Ren vs Rey. They're saving all that. You don't need light-saber rivalries to make a great Star Wars movie, we all know that by now.

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Plus killing off Phasma was worth it to hear Finn say "Rebel Scum." oooh that as great.

[@cozyemeralds]

Fun fact: my former assistant manager at toys r us is a huge Star Wars fanboy, and he hated the Last Jedi, and he really liked Rogue One... Jenny, you’re on to something. I remember having a conversation with him on the Last Jedi, and I asked him to say something he did like, because we kept going on about what we didn’t like. I finally got him to crack, and he admitted he liked what they did with Kylo Ren’s character. Hey, at least it was something.

[@LenkaDanian]

god it feels so good to watch someone being excited about TLJ after what happened in ep9