The Latest Lexus LC 500 Is a FANTASTIC Gem...Despite Its 3 Biggest Flaws!

[@Jaysun1]

I just recently purchased an Inspiration series LC500. IMO all of the reviewers that complain about the trackpad really haven't had enough time using it. It was a concern when I went in blind buying it online, but now that I've had the car for a few weeks I actually really like it and prefer the clean look of the screen behind that panel of glass over the newer slapped on touch pad that Lexus just released. Not to mention you can easily do most of what you want via the steering wheel controls or voice command. You can get to the heated and cooled seats section simply by asking the car to go to that screen. Really not a big deal at all. I'm a car guy and this is car is special IMO. I've owned and currently own faster cars, but this is a GT with one of the sexiest designs ever created by an auto manufacturer. The amount of strangers that approach me and ask me what it is really surprises me. I'm going to keep this one for a very long time. Absolutely love it!

[@RevLexus]

I am the same, I prefer the clean look versus the new touchscreen model

[@MarkR973]

Great comments by an actual owner, thanks

[@AMGEVAN]

I wanted an inspiration series. I ended up with a 2019 infrared sport pack. Congratulations on your purchase. The interior is next level on your car

[@FOXHOUND4143]

CONGRATS MAN!

[@Kathy-22]

Agree. Fantastic car

[@CACressida]

This thing will be pretty to look at forever. I got a chance to drive one and instantly fell in love. I can't wait till these become highly affordable in the used market.

[@mikedurling2111]

The 2018’s are in the upper 50’s right now

[@RevLexus]

you should check out my one, I have a limited edition with a 1 of 5 interior combo.

[@franko8572]

I don’t think that’s gonna happen. It looks sick, and has a V8. Not too many v8’s around anymore.

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

​@@mikedurling2111it's still a relatively new car guve it a few more years

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

​@franko8572 it's already lost half it's value on the used market in less than 5 years. These are going for 50k now

[@sirrloin]

The LC500 has the looks, sound, quality, driving experience and is just perfection. Being the fastest isn't always what it's about...

[@shaft3285]

You’re correct. I think It has more than enough power for the people who are going to buy it. It’s beautiful

[@alabama2uz]

There are no flaws on this car I couldn't ignore if I could afford the car AND another garage.

[@justSTUMBLEDupon]

5 years from now it should be affordable for its class at 60,000 just as long as it doesn’t get too popular

[@jeffk464]

The bummer is the weight. Carbon fiber roof panel and no spare, saving a lot of weight. ;) Because of the weight the M4 is going to be a much better driving luxury/sport coupe, but you know its ugly.

[@LCculater]

❤

[@hamsterbrigade]

​@@jeffk464I see what you're saying but for a high end luxury GT car, the weight and price are reasonable. I think only the F type is cheaper. I do love the sound of the F type but I keep hearing way too many stories of quality issues.

[@isthisagoodname6279]

@@jeffk464it’s a true grand tourer the m4 is trying to be both a gt car and a track car

[@wxmanben1231]

Great value. A Porsche is way more expensive and the maintenance is crazy! For what you get, it’s worth it! It’s a Toyota engine. You can drive it forever.

[@RevLexus]

I certainly hope so, I know my service on the LC is £750 a year

[@jeffk464]

I would put the porsche more in with the Supra. The porsche is a much more serious sports car, this is a luxury coupe.

[@hamsterbrigade]

​@@jeffk464I have to agree with you here. GT vs Sports car. I've seen people complain the 911 is starting to feel like a GT car but I'm not sure that's objectively true. I think they're just saying it because the Cayman and Boxster keep getting better while weighing less.

[@jamesstoops4018]

Those front upper strut mounts are a work of art 😍

[@LlyleHunter]

Aren’t they? Isn’t it incredible what Lexus does?

[@electriceel2293]

Brilliant naturally aspirated rear wheel drive V8. Future classic. Back seat is better for additional storage than people.

[@RevLexus]

that is true, yeah storage or insurance reasons I guess. I squeezed into the back of mine for a video.

[@timw2083]

Yes the trunk is extremely tiny, the LC500 is essentially a two-seater, and the trackpad is something you simply learn. There aren't many functions you really need to use it for while driving. I've had mine for 3yrs and can't think of another car I'd rather have. It really is a special car. Great review Nathan.

[@RevLexus]

its even smaller on the lc500h! :O

[@timw2083]

@@RevLexus ouch, I can only imagine. It's definitely not going on a Lowes run

[@stevest8675]

@@timw2083, the LC 500 is a sexy car. 😍

[@timw2083]

@@stevest8675 thanks, I've enjoyed it but it may be time to move on.

[@toddgersh]

Nathan, you do realize Lexus updated the interior. Finger pad is gone.

[@nelsonricciardi7087]

Indeed. He is showing the 2023 model I believe, not the new one.

[@NathanDAdlen]

It's not available to us yet. As such, I haven't sampled the updates.

[@blu_is500]

Sound. Still. Sells. 😍 The main reason I busted my butt to get my piece of Lexus' N/A V8 history! Great review, thanks for posting!

[@davidmagen415]

I am the proud owner of a Lc500 Convertible. I traded in my beloved ‘10 vette. This car is everything you could ask for without the crazy price of service on a Porsche. Like sitting in a cocoon. Extremely comfortable. Even in eco mode their is plenty on N/A power and that exhaust note OMG. Drive one you will buy one. And the exclusivity makes it a no brainer 🏖️

[@josepatricio3712]

Reviwers sometimes complain about back seat space....We all know they are not designed for humans ...Anyway when you can afford this type of car, sure you can buy another car with way more space.... Love Nathan reviews.

[@RevLexus]

that is true! I never use my rear seat (outwith one time for a video)

[@larryligon6542]

I have the privilege to own one of these beauties. The car lives up to the hype and is a rolling piece of art . The taillights are to be never confused as looking like any other car on the road . It sounds ,handles,looks and performs exceptionally well. I can not overstate how pleasurable the car drives and handles . I don’t care if the backseat is good for nothing more than a few bags of groceries. The infotainment is easy to understand once you learn how to use it.The color of choice for me was infrared with the caramel interior. The only regret is I should have bought it sooner .

[@Hyperborean_2]

What summer tires were your favourites as a daily? Thanks

[@stevest8675]

LC 500 is a gorgeous car 😍

[@barrydraper]

GR8 review! These are amazing cars for what they are, and they're a LEXUS so they should remain relatively trouble-free for the long run. These will undoubtedly become collectable, one day...

[@HerrPoopschitz]

Just watched the video of the new Mustang GT that had the MSRP of $66k. A used LC is a no brainer. Stunning looking in person.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

Depends on what you're doing with your car. If you're a performance/track oriented person, it's a no-brainer to consider the Mustang over the Lexus. The Lexus is a beautiful highway cruiser though

[@HerrPoopschitz]

@@shiftmotorsports9803 No offense, but someone w/ ‘motorsport’ in their name should know better. if youre a smart performance/track oriented person an untested gen 4 coyote isnt what you spend your money on. Hell, Gen 3s arent as reliable as gen 2s. Someone w/ ‘shift’ in their name should also know the mt82 is junk as well. Gen 2 coyote is where its at for reliable performance. Buy used and have money left over to upgrade parts where Ford left off. You know tuning wont even be available for these things for years if at all from 3rd parties, right? ’Track/performance’ person...gimme a break. Used LC500 > overpriced new Ford junk any day.

[@shiftmotorsports9803]

@HerrPoopschitz I personally went with a 6M Camaro SS 1LE for track duty, but if my only choices were a 5 or 6 year old LC with 30-50k on it, or a brand new 6M Mustang GT PP2 for the same price and I'm looking to have fun on the track.....Mustang all day, every day. If I'm older and looking for a beautiful highway cruiser, used LC takes it

[@tomdubois3062]

@@HerrPoopschitza $66k mustang is most likely a dark horse, which has a tremec 6 speed. The coyote are reliable and mod friendly. Now for 66k I ain’t buying that mustang unless it’s a Shelby or something. The Lexus is a thing of beauty but it’s not going to outperform a new mustang gt or dark horse.

[@HerrPoopschitz]

@@tomdubois3062 GT convertible. As I stated, tuning is not available for Gen 4s. That is by definition the antithesis of mod-friendly. Thanks for the lesson on LC vs GT Captain Obvious.

[@GlobalNomad-wy2sc]

I ordered my bespoke build LC500 coupe a year ago and bought it in May. I have watched as many reviews of the car as I can, and what most of them fail to mention is that the one “flaw” of the infotainment system isn’t really one after the day you buy it. Why? Because once you are finished with all your settings you won’t need to touch it again. I use the voice command feature and just tell car what I want. I tell Apple CarPlay what I want to listen to. I set the climate concierge feature the day I bought it, set my ideal temperature to 71 degrees and every time I sit in the car, it uses at least 10 sensors to reach it within a minute! When your paying over $100k for a car, you expect class, quality and reliability. JD Power ranked Lexus #1 this year. The looks are so stunning that even people that are not into cars will stop me to tell how much they like it. The ride is quiet and the car really has a dual personality with its different modes. I love that it is so rare and I will bet that it will go up in value in 10+ years - and I still will be driving it!

[@Making1Better]

Thanks for this information!!! Super helpful 👍

[@garyclark6747]

To fix the rear seat critique just get the convertible so you can enjoy that V8 even more.💯 17:45

[@JarmelSingsKaraoke]

Thanks Nathan...Happy Friday everybody ✌️

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

Woot !

[@ytsux9259]

Saw a white one on the road the other day and it was absolutely gorgeous. I drooled. 😢

[@RevLexus]

wasn't mine was it?

[@DavidSmith-fr1uz]

Thank you Lexus. You hit a home run with this one.

[@mcatlow8]

Oh I agree. This car is lovely and I appreciate all the effort that went into making it.

[@admranger]

Malcolm Gladwell did a wonderful podcast on the LC 500, going into the design details. It is worth a listen.

[@johnkorte1890]

You're absolutely, positively, spot on right!

[@bryaninnc5511]

It's definitely a head turner

[@sddyck]

This video earns my like and comment for back seat entertainment! Love the vids guys

[@planbparadise2046]

The spedometer DOES move over - button on left side steering wheel like on other Lexus which have it.

[@RevLexus]

it does move yeah

[@markspence3750]

I 100% agree that is the best Lexus ever made.

[@telliesmith9825]

Nathan your right on this on it's a beautiful ride

[@noahbirdrevolution]

In two years I'm going to find a CPO black with the red interior or white with peanut butter. Love it.

[@sgt0331able]

Thank you so much for giving a great detail on your physical measurements, too many people review it and don’t. I am 6’3” 289 lbs and waiting for my car to be delivery.

[@UrbanBDKNY]

In about a year or so I will be buying one of these and keeping it as long as I can. This is going to be a classic much like the LFA is. I hate that Lexus didn't make an LC F. That would have been bonkers but I guess they have the new model coming (LF R) but that is going to be much more expensive than this. Probably something like 120-130 base price My target price is 55-60k for something with like 25-30k miles on it. We are already there, so I don't see a problem buying one on the lower end in a year as prices come down more

[@battledro1d392]

Two thing i would like to say that yes, this is a newer lexus lc500 , but not the Lastest. The 2024 lc500 fixes or improves on those 3 flaws with the infotainment being touch screen and back seats being optimized i reccomend you check it out!

[@jaygoodie7890]

Once they drop to 60k-49k these will sell out 2018-2021 models and the value in 5-7 years once there out of production. Few are sitting on the lot because guys like me watching and waiting. Waiting for 2019-2021 convertible 65k and down depending on milage. I don't want the touch screen🤢 took away from the interior to me. I'm driving it IDC about a screen man let me enjoy this breeze and sound of the V8. Also I careless about putting miles on it because I'll never sell it.

[@amybain9441]

Should I pass on a 2018?

[@jaygoodie7890]

@amybain9441 if you can afford them at the price there selling for now, then fine go for it. As for me, that is my price range 60k-49k . But I think these will go up in value just like the NSX. That's my PERSONAL OPINION but I'm getting the car because i love the style of the car and what it represents. This vehicle will be timeless

[@stefanck]

I am a Miata ND2 owner, and I'm planning to buy a LC500 as my second car because I've always wanted a luxury cruiser with a V8. For me, this is the ultimate ride to cross the country. Right now, I cannot afford it, but I hope in a few years I could. I'm living in France and now these are getting completely impossible to buy because of the eco-tax.

[@icare7151]

15:29 Pure adrenaline. It’s going to be a classic for collection. A supercharger would make it supercar!

[@regulartxdude7813]

The 2024 fixes the terrible track pad by removing it and adding a touch screen monitor. Love the LC 500. The huge issue for me is that you cannot get a sunroof in the LC 500 but you can get it in the hybrid version.

[@naijaman1]

You can get a sunroof , just not with the sports package cos that comes with the carbon fiber roof

[@regulartxdude7813]

@@naijaman1 you can’t option the sunroof on the new models with the V8 according to the Lexus site but maybe they just don’t show it and it comes standard ?

[@billnorblat4047]

Should have a Tan Interior

[@RevLexus]

or blue like mine ;)

[@TheProjectManager100]

So for the past 4 weeks I had been shopping for a sports car (a GT style that I can daily drive). Decided that my birthday (I will be 46 in 2 weeks) is coming up so wanted to gift myself a nice car since my wife and kids (son is 17 and daughter is 21) all have nice cars. Had to get them all settled before I can splurge on myself. So I narrowed the choices down to the Lexus LC500, Chevy Corvette C8, and the Jag F-Type. I am a previous Lexus & Jag owner. Sat in the C8 and it sits extremely low to the ground and it is a nice car but its really wide looking. I test drove the LC500 (the new 2024 model that has the new touchscreen infotainment system up close to the driver) about 3 weeks ago at a local dealer and it was nice. I knew I wanted this over the C8. It was more comfortable for me and easier to get in and out. The car was too comfortable and I didn't get that sports car feel though when my wife and I test drove it. But I love this car. When I test drove the F-Type it was all over. Both wife and I agreed this was the one. We got the luxury GT feeling along with the sports car feel, with the addition of having more mods available than the LC500 as well. Lexus wanted like $25k more as well as they marked it up and were not willing to negotiate at all. I ended up buying the F-Type this past Sunday and it is absolutely amazing. Now it is time to do a few small mods to it. But I think I still would of loved the LC500 as no doubt it is an amazing car......just has a big butt according to my wife.

[@ag1now]

The back seats are perfect for 5’4” Asian models 😁

[@petermavus4131]

Beautiful price too

[@palebeachbum]

I sat in an LC500 at a car show and it was rather commical trying to get out...or maybe I should say get UP. The seat is very low and the door sill is extremely thick. Swinging my legs out, my feet didn't touch the ground, so I had no leverage to lift myself out. It's not like a truck situation where you can slide out either. I had to put my left hand on the ground and rolling myself out on all fours with my ass in the air. Not exactly dignified. 😂

[@LCculater]

Look underneath the car a see a world of artwork done on the suspension and rear steering ! Far from 60,000 dollars . My 2020 LC500 cost 120,000 Canadian . Info system is awsome and no fingerprints

[@chosenone5536]

A used 2020 for $120k? 😮

[@HandsomeSloth24]

They should have made the backseat part of the trunk

[@RevLexus]

Interestingly the new Lexus minivan is the new flagship as that is about £10k more than the LC

[@Kevin27182]

Is there a reason why you are not making vids with the other guys? Might have missed something

[@tannerthomas5986]

Awesome video! You rock Nathan!😂

[@halfunkbass2966]

When Lexus comes out with a mid engine coupe im all in. Like Honda did with the NSX.

[@benehakakakaiwi9955]

Carbon fiber roof is meant to reduce its top weight to help with lower center of gravity. This helps handling derrrrrrrrrrr

[@iaaronteeit510]

It’s flaw is it’s the slowest in its class by a lot. To me it’s not a sports car. It’s a rich man’s touring car. It is a beautiful car tho

[@RevLexus]

so true! its a great GT, I did 1,000 miles in mine last week over 3 days

[@hurehurley]

Infotainment got changed to touchscreen in the 24 models, but the sleek looks are now gone, as the old screen would not be easy to reach while driving. I had this tochpad sh... in an nx last year and thought it was horrible, but the new screen just doesn't look good, so I would let it slide when I get all the beauty that is the LC500.

[@stevefrancisco2512]

It is a hidden gem. Because when I drive my LC500 convertible. People have to stop and look closely at it. And say I didn't know Lexus made a convertible. It's really funny.

[@deucedaprodeuca]

I'm seriously thinking of doing something strange for some change to buy this car 🤣

[@ssing7113]

😳

[@RevLexus]

Great video, I am biased though. I love my LC

[@LionRunner]

Wish it has a torsen center diff for us here in Colorado. (If I'm not mistaken GR Corolla has a real torsen center diff and not viscous or electro magnetic like regular AWD vehicle). But with that rear seat my wife would never let me buy that anyway. 😥 Price doesn't justify either. If it was similar price as GX460 then it would be reasonable imo.

[@Kevin27182]

Nate dogg with another great review!

[@Jrbettis]

Chrome strip is a Katana homage. Golf clubs fit, just remove the driver first. depending on height of golfer. Seat Shoulder Latch will move seat forward automatically. Voice commands for screen function if not using track pad. "Tune to SiriusXM Yacht Rock" "I'm hot." "Go Home." "Directions to Q39 BarBeQue Kansas City, Missouri." "What's the weather?" Depends if you want four wheel steering that option came later. Rear suspension updates also came later.

[@HarryBaalzach]

Rear wheel steer was available from launch in 2017 on the sport plus model

[@Foregrlz]

A full sized staff bag?

[@Kazewarrior]

I vote every car needs a review section with Nathan and it should be called "But does he fit?" American tested American approved. Not in this case 😆

[@stuarthobart6844]

It drops my jaw👍‼️

[@ttdat]

Fell on the floor laughing watching you get out of the back seat.

[@off-roadingexplained8417]

Carbon fiber on the roof is great. Lower center of gravity at least. They should probably do a carbon fiber roof on all off-road SUVs honestly.

[@theirthereandtheyre2947]

Future collectible for sure.

[@banginzaza]

You don't need a raise to have that car bro. You can invest in something and that money will come up. You're smart as heck too.

[@gokufighter21]

The 24 models got rid of the track pad!!!

[@garyziegler4358]

I owned nothing but Lexus for 20 years and the LC 500 convertible was going to be my next car until Corvette released their c8 hardtop convertible. No question the Lexus is the king of reliability. But for me the mid-engine hardtop convertible Corvette is just genius it was $30,000 less than LC. I still really like Alexis LC convertible but they made a big mistake with the soft top.

[@carloscarter9429]

Great car. For me flaw # 1. Not AWD. Living in the northeast it would be great to have ,it’s a grand tourer not a sports car.

[@dibaz1]

AWD but with rear wheel steer and a extra 100bhp to go to all the wheels 👍😁

[@abrahamcasanova9901]

Given the way this car looks and sounds, I will forgive any flaws it might have.

[@ivanyardley1663]

The only trouble with the LC500 is that its 0 to 62 time of 4.7 seconds is slow. Lexus only sold 64 in the UK last year and that is because a £100K plus car should be hitting 0 to 62 in 4 seconds or less

[@RevLexus]

I know its shocking how little they sell here, I think they sold like 10 LS's in the UK. I love my colour combo

[@ivanyardley1663]

@@RevLexus Just think how desirable it would be if it had the RS7 performance car's engine

[@burtronomaniac]

There is a British racing green convertible sitting in our local Lexus dealership and I want it so bad I can taste it , it’s 112,000, and if I could swing it I would buy it asap, seeing this is most likely a last chance car and I’m am already 58 I will probably never have one 😢

[@grabir01]

Anything touch pad in a car will be a challenge to use going down the road. Get a Cell phone bracket, mount it to your windshield and try it. The 24 LC500 went to a touch screen. Looks bad/cheap/after thought.

[@almateenyazid]

LC is the complete package! Just drive the damn car and enjoy!

[@icare7151]

A real motor!

[@Dontknowshit]

I would buy this in a heartbeat if I can afford it. I am happy with the little cousin the IS500 for now.

[@Kevin27182]

I also don’t like carbon fiber on cars unless it’s like add aero or unless it’s a carbon tub. I do appreciate the engineering they had to go through for the roof tho

[@overcastfriday81]

If the seats leaned forward more, trunk is not an iissue.issue...put the ice chest on the backseatinstead.

[@chrislangstaff]

I WANT ONE SO BAD

[@RevLexus]

do it, you wont regret it!

[@thesaxster]

good review, very pleasant personality

[@libnizhr]

Loved this car since it came out in 2018

[@paulnetter4323]

As always, a good review from TFL, but please wash your jeans @7:35 !

[@goatmonkey2112]

The back seat should just be a storage shelf. The next version should be a small V-8. Maybe a 3.0L + hybrid. I'd be OK with that assuming they keep the 10-speed.

[@bjsimon802]

Lexus lent me RC300, the car was so quiet and refined, no sound just pure luxury feel. Such a different car than I am use to driving.

[@markspence3750]

That is me getting in and out of a Jeep Wrangler. When you hit 53 years old, your spine quits working! Add on plantar fasciitis, both of your feet are numb,

[@Kevin27182]

I noticed the seat didn’t slide forward or back when you tried to go in the back. Must mean you didn’t activate the auto ingress feature which will slide the seat forward and back when the lever on the back is lifted. Auto stop if it comes into contact as well

[@NWI_Steel]

Ive always thought these things were great looking too

[@overcastfriday81]

Re styling, the side burn features just outside the grille will prevent it from being timeless, because it's a fad of our times. I can dismiss that but the rocker panel gives a bent chassis vibe. Like it folded on a lift.

[@louislazarus9253]

A "pretty well done review" except for the infotainment nonsense. First off, you CAN get two sets of golf clubs with cart bags in the trunk. Simply pull out the driver and fairway woods and lay them on top. No problem. The "infotainment" system is fantastic once you've taken the time to do what adults do and read the OWNER'S MANUAL. Learn VOICE COMMAND and you almost never need the trackpad leaving your eyes ON THE ROAD where they belong. Unless you are doing something extraordinary, VOICE COMMAND does 98% of the work. As for the seats, simply press the TALK BUTTON on the steering wheel and say "show front seat heat warmer screen" and you're there ready to slide your fingers up or down. That's really no different than having a button somewhere. The LC is not a race car. It's a car for responsible people who obey the traffic laws and don't horse around like kids. A 0-60 time of 4.4 is real as my LC 500, which I've owned just short of five years, still does easily. And, the best part of all is these cars are extremely well-made and very reliable, unlike certain other cars which noodniks buy because of the badge. In my five years the car has been flawless. The only flaw, if you think it's a flaw, is the car isn't a four passenger car at all. Only a very small child can sit in back. If you want a four passenger car, don't buy an LC500, buy an SUV. One last thing...the new LC's have a TOUCH SCREEN which if used, requires the driver to take his eyes off the road while traveling at 120 feet per second. Anyone who thinks THIS is a good idea is nuts! But, to each....his own.

[@NathanDAdlen]

I hate the touch pad. I've sampled units going back to 2010's debut of "remote touch." Hundreds of permutations of this system, all of which get upgraded. Why? Because Lexus listens to their clients. Sure, you dig your system, but I hate it - and so do many others. But, to each - his own.

[@listonabel1997]

Seeing you get into the back seats i felt the claustrophobia

[@V8Brah]

The 2018 LC rides really harsh and awkward. The suspension was significantly improved for 2019 and up. You won't find those years under $70k.

[@UNCLETQB]

Lexus engineers from Japan said they designed the back seats for the mothers-in-laws.😂

[@mylexrcfupgrades1222]

It does make you feel Rich!

[@LeicaM82]

L-design #27: the shape the reviewer contorted his body into when exiting the back seat.

[@ngs2freak12]

You should call the back seat segments "The Eternal Struggle " 😂

[@klausnielsen7102]

If you don’t like the Pad use voice control! Just because the V8 is an extremely god car doesn’t make the Hybrid junk. Hoses for causes!

[@silversurfernsx]

The tachometer dial moves by pressing the button on the steering wheel

[@QuietStormX]

This ride is stuck in the past. The only thing is the exterior. The dash had to be redesigned and updated tech. It's a looker thow.. :-D But I'd get a Bentley with 12!

[@dlj1285]

Not even close to being the same buyer.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

This 5.0L V8 should have been the new engine in the Toyota Tundra. What a missed opportunity. I would take that Lexus 5.0L V8 over the Ford 5.0L Coyote V8 any day of the week.

[@TheElectricGhost]

Does the RC have more space in the back? I fit back there at 5 foot 10...granted I had someone short (5'6) sitting in front of me, but even sitting behind my own sitting position wasn't too uncomfortable

[@leselhbr8853]

This a beautiful machine to get attention and to go around and sound like a formula car it's so cool 😎

[@WardSpose]

My 89 celica hatchback had an insurance back seat. Can we accept 2+2 vs. 2+stuffshelf

[@45snakebite]

Look at your hand while using the touch pad? Do you look at your hand when you type or do you look at your screen?

[@NathanDAdlen]

Both. Like many, I occasionally glance at my hands for positioning. Being that I write for a dozen websites, I type often. So, glancing for hand position is commonplace.

[@dibaz1]

Have you driven the convertible and any marked differences to note?