The Lost Civilization of Tartaria

[@soresl]

Anyone who acts like they have a perfect understanding of how things were 200+ years ago should be questioned.

[@sparkspark2314]

KaaAAABOOOOOOOOOOOOom

[@speed_demon420]

Especially when you have multiple history lines right now from the left and right and all other positions

[@seanp8220]

Nobody said nothing should not be questioned

[@Janiah_isthatgurl]

Lmaoaooaoaoaoao

[@soresl]

@@seanp8220 He speaks in the video as if he has a perfect understanding. Maybe you misread the comment.

[@diogenes42069]

Oh yeah then how do you explain tartar sauce

[@greatbingus]

checkmate gaytheists

[@jaw1970]

I laughed when I saw your reply thinking you were joking but you’re actually serious please tell me I’m wrong. We haven’t lost a civilisation there were big balloons and zeppelins but man has been building since God created him and although I hate Babylon if you were to see it in its full glory they had chariot races on top of the walls four deep. When you think these structures pulled energy out of the sky I’m not saying that’s impossible but you are pulled into a Psychological operation and I truly hope you find your way out. Please don’t waste your time there is precious left of it. I say all this with love

[@diogenes42069]

@@jaw1970 dude you have a very high opinion of yourself you should try being a little bit more humble you're not as smart as you think you are and it's super cringy... And Yes buzz Killington it's a joke but you outright dismissing the possibility of A Lost Civilization is just as unintelligent as the people who claim every legend that fits their worldview is true

[@seanpaul4713]

www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp78-02771r000200090002-6 Ita real

[@jimmy56100]

​​@@jaw1970 Hope you find your way out yourself. Some of us prefer more proof than one religious book. Tartaria was a real civilization. We don't know why but it's pretty easy to prove their history has been atleast partially wiped. The high tech buildings speak for themselves. Some of them still generate energy. They used cymatic patterns that channel frequencies. It's not some psyop lol

[@SomeOfMyBusiness]

Funny how the first video when searching what is Tartarian is debunking it lol

[@salochinnotlimah2406]

That’s how you know they’re lying

[@TutankhamaruCapac]

Can someone please ACTUALLY explain what the theory consists of? Most of the internet is content is either out to debunk it or consists of vague and broad old map lore without clarifying what's the deal with this Tartaria stuff..

[@SomeOfMyBusiness]

@@TutankhamaruCapac I'm South African and we're still pretty cultural with at least 200 years of story going back so I "know" a lot of mainstream history has been "white washed". From what I gather the Tartaria thing just proves there was a power structure before the current West/East dynamic. Taking stories of giants especially into consideration to my tribe, I wouldn't be surprised if there were giants running things back then. As for flat earth in relation to the Tartaria thing 🤔 I'm at a stage where I'm confidently sitting on the fence coz I need to go up and see for myself (somehow).

[@organichuman]

​@@TutankhamaruCapacYou have to find the right channels to understand or investigate the claims or evidence. These things are shadowbanned on YT so it is tricky to find and I can't help because I would likely have my comment shadowbanned for trying. This is how the YT AI works. No free speech and no freedom, even scientists and doctors aren't immune.

[@oftin_wong]

​@@salochinnotlimah2406people who think everything is a lie are themselves the most dishonest oxygen thieves you'll ever meet

[@jean-pierrefernandez2460]

youve lost your hairspray privileges

[@villian2.]

😂😂😂😂

[@jennifernorman9655]

It's not hairspray... 😮

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

​egg whites? @@jennifernorman9655

[@scream8448]

😂

[@Tk52781]

@@jennifernorman9655”is that hair gel”?😂

[@slushisimcambi2521]

Oh man I love Terraria

[@اباقلقلة-ز7ب]

Me too

[@اباقلقلة-ز7ب]

Bro

[@Cornermouse1]

Your hair convinced me.

[@BW-gc2mp]

Mate I could draw a random map and someone in the future would say it’s a secret city

[@diogenes42069]

That's assuming a lot about the intelligence of the roaches who will inherit the earth after world war 3 lol

[@justinjohnson5262]

@@diogenes42069 what roach are you voting for?

[@alice_agogo]

@@diogenes42069 future roaches will be smarter than all present day Americans 🇺🇸

[@BW-gc2mp]

@Amy Wade waffle

[@testingagain6525]

​@@BW-gc2mptartaria has flags re tard

[@tonyfriendly4409]

The thing about Steppe nomads is that they oftentimes control large swathes of land that nobody really lives on. There aren't many towns or farms on the Steppe (at least there haven't been historically).

[@jojossagas]

There’s literally declassified CIA documents that admit they wiped Tartarian history from the history books lol ….

[@theholychromosome7519]

Link the documents

[@experiencaled]

Link? 😊😊

[@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472]

May I see them?

[@thesolantor8624]

Link please

[@jojossagas]

@Chris Porter “ For example, on 9 August 1944, the Central Committee of the Communist Party, sitting in Moscow, issued a directive ordering the party's Tartar Provinciai Committee "to proceed to a scientific revision o fthe historyo f Tartaria, to liquidate seriousshortcomings and mistakes of a nationalistic character committed by ind1- vidual writers and historians In dealing with Tartar history." 12/ In other words, Tartar history was to be rewritten--let us be frank, was to be falsified--in order to eliminate references to Great Russian aggressions” that’s what it says … Falsified ….. but fast forward to present time and every main stream historian denies it, there’s media who call it a conspiracy theory and the sheeple going along with the narrative 🤣 Even though there’s still old maps with Tartaria on it, it’s still taught in Russian schools etc Like god damn wake up people, how long are you going to defend a government and system that lies to you and treats you like disposable insects

[@Isaac-zs2oi]

people that try to disprove tartaria are the people who think federal reserve notes is real money

[@SilentiumCivis]

No, that is such a reach of an insult. How those 2 mix is beyond me. Please explain.

[@hernandezmarkie7382]

And Biden voters

[@humanityincvideos5114]

It’s not? Loo

[@unicornkitteh5332]

​@@humanityincvideos5114our "fiat currency" only has value because people BELIEVE it does. The only tangible thing of value that backs the US dollar, is the promise of labor from future generations. (You should look into what your birth certificate and social security number are ACTUALLY used for)

[@seanpaul4713]

www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp78-02771r000200090002-6 Tartaria is real for the disbelievers

[@Caramelesque]

I met this person who said North America is Egypt, and was controlled by Mithras worshipping Aristocratic Celtic peoples 1500 years ago...So, Gen Z is screwed lol ...

[@HDPersonal777]

Text books are screwed and overpriced too!!

[@wastrelperv]

I'm mildly impressed they bring up Mithras, he's not obscure, but not a big name everybody knows. I'm surprised Celtic and not something more PoC, Polynesian would make more sense and fit Gen Z's views better. And their features can sort of line-up with the art of the Americas.

[@TrillPlanet]

Damn he is a historian guys

[@HDPersonal777]

Lol 😂😂

[@TS-yf2zf]

Nope. There's definitely something off with the narrative. I've been in construction all my life (now 40) & have seen some very unexplainable shit in old buildings. Not to mention the methods used to construct them. Sorry but first hand experience actually touching & seeing these anomalies leads to more questions that cannot be simply answered. Whilst I'm not saying it is definitely Tartaria what I am saying is we've been lied to about some of the older structures. In my experience

[@TheLoreLodge]

Can you give an example?

[@danf7411]

The neo classical buildings are beautiful I don't think it was tartarian but I think we lost our spirit after the industrial revolution personally. It is weird how they decimated those buildings

[@Tastyduckling5]

Stick to small scale buddy

[@jimmy56100]

As someone who follows the Tartaria subject very closely. People in the community aren't saying the high tech buildings were necessity tartaria either. So anyone thinking they've successfully dismissed the whole thing is only showing they haven't even looked into it. That's fascinating but not surprising at all. We don't have any genuine construction photos of the cathedrals and castles, yet do with everything else. They're in every country and built in times when the population numbers couldn't have possibly built them

[@butterflywatching34]

​@@Charlotte-yx4sh agree in Brussel, Belgium you got a lot of them and there is not sure from what time those buildings are!

[@jermanhernandez3050]

This dude wakes you up to tell you hes going to sleep

[@melita524e]

😂

[@tibb75]

dont sleep too hard, you might fall off your flat globe, tartard

[@StevenLeeStudios]

@@tibb75 yall always resort to insults when you hear things that you are programmed to not want to hear.

[@tibb75]

@@StevenLeeStudios if you hear the theories of tartaria or flat earth and believe them, you deserve any insult lobbed at you

[@StevenLeeStudios]

@@tibb75 read your words again, "if you hear the theories." So im not allowed to even hear or listen to what people are saying about the matter? You must be a Biden voter. Close minded and brainwashed to oblivion. So hurt because it shatters all the things you learned. Did you also think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself and that he wasnt working as an elite child sex trafficker? Or was that a Q anon conspiracy theory?

[@mhoovair89]

Controlled op?

[@Obsidian_Dad]

The only source for Tartaria are old Europe’s maps so some faceless organization was able to completely rewrite history destroyed documents from dozens of civilizations and empires. White washed it all, but somehow forgot to do the same to some maps you could find it a local store.

[@zhanibek_kk]

“Wasn’t ruled by any recognized country”. Khanate of Crimea, Golden Horde, Khanate of Kazan, Kazakh Khanate, Shaybanid Khanate, Khanate of Bukhara, Dzungar Khanate. He tries to make a good point but is undermined by his own ignorance,

[@TheLoreLodge]

The entire area referred to as “Tartaria” was not ruled by any recognized country. There were numerous smaller countries within the region.

[@zhanibek_kk]

@@TheLoreLodge it never was lol. Tartaria was divided between the Qing, Iran and Russian Empire. And the Golden Horde, or for that matter any of the earlier nomadic empires like the Mongol Empire or Kipchak Confederation hardly qualify as “smaller countries”. All of these states were “recognized countries” that had treaties and embassies across Europe and Asia.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@zhanibek_kk when we’re talking about “Tartaria” in the context of the time in which that term was being used on maps, no country covered that entire region.

[@zhanibek_kk]

@@TheLoreLodge the term came into use in the 13th century, when the Mongol Empire ruled that entire region.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@zhanibek_kk they didn’t rule the entire region, and that’s not when the maps are from.

[@thelonelystoner4676]

I like to believe tartaria is the name we gave the empire of ghengis kahn

[@sinoist742]

You are actually incredibly close with that presumption. Tartaria was a designation created by the Europeans to refer to the many tribes and khanates which formed across Eurasia after the collapse of the Mongol Empire led by Genghis Khan.

[@johnroach9026]

Pretty much right on the head there, the Tartars were simply a way of lumping together the dozens of fragmented khanates and ethnic groups of the Eurasian steppe, which was unimportant to cartographers of the 15th-18th century compared to the far richer regions of Persia, India and China which merchants who would use their maps would want to know about. "Tartaira" simply fills the big empty gap in Siberia

[@christopherlin4706]

@@johnroach9026still the maps show extremely urban areas in Tartarian regions with much density and it seems that the mystique of the land was very profound regardless, so why didn’t they call it multiple polities and always refer it as Tartaria? Clearly after hundreds of years they would know there would be different tribes and khanates?

[@seanp8220]

1705 book of flags Omitted Empire which dominated the world

[@Mahsterch]

@@seanp8220 Ottoman Empire?

[@katiecoollady]

Tartaria is a state of mind

[@pamelawinson3192]

Tartaria is older Europe.. Many buildings with tunnels etc built for the disaster ages I believe..

[@pamelawinson3192]

Which includes Russia China India and more ..tartaria..

[@grantsampson776]

That state of mind is called Gullible Insanity

[@evgeniam685]

That's what they say about russians. Russian isn't nationality, it's state of mind

[@seanp8220]

Official historians might wanna look into the 1705 book of flags.

[@mosesrodriguez8167]

God damn Mongolians!! Keep knocking down my chitty whall!

[@friartuck103]

They also invented tartar sauce as well...

[@lalli8152]

Tartar steak as well

[@hehsuess5431]

Thanks for actually explaining this

[@kittycat8222]

“Trust me bro. Thousands of old world building were built in under 20 years on dirt roads by horse and buggy families.”

[@pandemicphilly60]

Most cathedrals take centuries to build. Also, have you ever built a horse and buggy?

[@kittycat8222]

@@pandemicphilly60 horses and buggies can be brought on boats too though.

[@speed_demon420]

We'll just have these rickety wooden shacks right next to them too. Progress.

[@kittycat8222]

@@speed_demon420 right! Proof is all around.

[@citizenvulpes4562]

Your name is "kitty cat"

[@familyread7889]

He’s so clever lol

[@artvandelay5157]

You have a real knack for taking fascinating subjects and somehow being able to make incredibly boring videos about them.

[@seanp8220]

The only one I've seen do that. No wonder he's jealous at actually informed channels.

[@wastrelperv]

Is this Gen Z's brilliant and elaborate prank? Is it perhaps a snarky revenge against those who demean our generation for its perceived ignorance and gullible nature that attaches itself to dangerous ideas and foolish trends? In this case seemingly a stupid alt-history trend, but really designed to dupe everyone else with confirmation bias? Is it organized on discord or something? Or perhaps more likely, organic and flexible, growing without any guiding authority, each voice adding to the pot being as valid as the last so long as it denies the established narrative, warps the truth, and ultimately confuses those not in the know. Disprove one bizarre theory and two more shall take its place. Deny everything that is taken as true and lie relentlessly until the narrative becomes bogged down in nonsense and the truth becomes blurred in the eyes of the gullible and the deluded. Lie until the lie becomes the truth. Hail Hydra...?

[@lindsjg313]

😂😂😂😂 right!?

[@Cade805]

OMG THE CREEPY MUSIC WAS AWESOME during that lava hole sequence 28:49

[@edwardvannoy15]

I was thinking of the antediluvian people who spread their knowledge of megalithic building.

[@TheLoreLodge]

See THAT is worth discussing

[@iamtheprincekingdavidsaysy9028]

fare well tartaria, Hello Enochia. ready or not. AT YOUR MARKS, READY, SET,..... RESET!

[@turtspotato]

Why do all the tartaria believers in this comment section resort to claims with no solid proof or ad hominens?

[@HDPersonal777]

You = 🐀🤥

[@lauranelson7479]

Research on your own. Don't be lazy. There is ton's of proof out there.

[@SIngli6]

Then SHOW us.@@lauranelson7479

[@citizenvulpes4562]

​@@lauranelson7479 I have officially lost hope in humanity if you guys believe in this tartaria nonsense. It's fairytale BULLSHIT.

[@mcskillet7106]

@@lauranelson7479 Your comment is priceless. It's funny that it's always this response that's given when faced with skepticism.

[@robertlee8519]

You ever do a Collab with the archaeologist guy that debunks silly TikToks?

[@Verygery12]

They’re both plants

[@pokemontrainer5678]

​@@Verygery12 no they are human I don't see any leaves or flowers on them

[@indianOutlaw87.5]

But mud flood 😢

[@TrevorTargaryen]

Buddy 😪

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

But mah blue pills... But mah need to be a lemming sheep... But there's too many movies and baseball games to think critically about anything, let alone falsified history...

[@indianOutlaw87.5]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 waaaaaa

[@meinkek7896]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 but experts say.... But the paper say.... But the priest professor from church harvard say.... But... The peer reviewed say....

[@seanp8220]

1850 almost every city is covered in mud. Why ? No explanation.

[@DansFire8]

...and they invented tartar sauce. And now you know.

[@Iamjulez27]

You know so much about history wow. Do you have a NASA tattoo? 😊

[@mariochavez9963]

He has it tattooed on his asshole 🤣

[@pivgfm]

haha.right?and that smug imma tell you how your wrong attitude. ‘Oh please tell us more about what you know about history’…sheesh. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@shagbot69 I will happily debate literally anyone on this topic lmao

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@shagbot69 oh so now it’s that no “serious researcher” would debate me? I thought your criticism was that we won’t debate you? By your own logic, you are now the one with something to prove. Find me someone. I’ll have them on the show.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@shagbot69 I’m 25 lmao

[@mummynapkin.]

so cool seeing this be the first thing that comes up when you type tartaria in... definitely gonna listen to whacky talking funny moving youtube guy... burn lmaooo

[@noisepuppet]

What happened to the legendary empire called McDonaldland

[@alexdomar4014]

What about Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Mendez pinto writing of ‘beautiful geniuses’ from this great tartaria

[@alexdomar4014]

Genuine question , I honestly don’t know shit about history lol but I just know of this book

[@TheLoreLodge]

I haven’t read the account, but “Tartaria” was the term used by many to refer to Central Asia. Little was understood about the actual demography or national boundaries of the regions within “Tartaria”

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge you need to dig more.

[@johnroach9026]

​@@alexdomar4014 Tartaria is a very Latin way for naming a people or empire. Tartar is a loan word from the Persian Tātār, meaning "mounted messenger", the extra r associating it with the mythological Tartarus since that was what Europeans were into. No central Asian ethnic group prior to Russian colonisation called themselves Tatars (the modern "Tatars" are Turkic people). -ia is a Latin suffix meaning "land of". The legitimate Persian suffix would be -stan. A more legitimate descriptor of "Tartaria" might be Türkleristan, or something similar

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

Because Tartaria exists, buts it’s a region referred to the Eurasian steppes, not a civilisation. It’s like calling the Himalayas or the Atlantic Ocean a civilisation it makes no sense at all.

[@alice_agogo]

We don't want to understand. All hail Tartaria! 🙌🙌🙌

[@kingsj7662]

😂😂😂

[@unknownsender6852]

Funny thing about those 1860s.....

[@jeremypaluck4246]

A soyboy making this argument is the cherry on top

[@seanp8220]

He's been sent out to strawman and pretend it wasn't an Empire. Laughable. Also attempting the "antisemitic" smear. Mainstream credentials through and through. Brainwashed.

[@wastrelperv]

I wanna drink the soy from your sweet nectar. 🥵😭😭😭

[@citizenvulpes4562]

People actually believe this tartaria nonsense? Jesus Christ, please save us, for we are doomed as a species.

[@jeremypaluck4246]

@@citizenvulpes4562 I wouldn't say people believe it or worship it like cult members worship mainstream history. There is definitely some questionable stuff in human history though.

[@RoanRetro]

You're hair gives me "Beakman's World" vibes 😂

[@tomthumb5242]

He must know stuff. Look how his hair stands up

[@Starvin_Marvin138]

I love how they try to say that everything we see isn't true. We say there seems to be links to a great civilization that was wiped out by a mud flood because there's maps with the name and a bunch of buildings with 2 stories buried under the ground and they say "absolutely not, everything that you see isn't true and you should only listen to us." Wizard priests.

[@TrevorTargaryen]

Not the people that believe in the “Mud flood” shit had me rolling 😂

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

Not as much as you'll be rolling with the next reset and flood. Rolling in mud and eating your infantile words.

[@rudeboi9799]

Mudflood is real . Not that you looked into it

[@autumnfire1490]

@@ThefirstdaysRthehardestDays yeah I seen liquifaction in person and yes that is far fetched

[@bretwill9417]

Did you stick a fork in a receptacle? Milk

[@Toumasu]

Lol.. this explanation doesn't mean anything

[@Howler61]

Okey,youtube Harry Potter.

[@johnqpublic2718]

Op, we've got a historian folks.

[@intell0]

thank you for the generic vanilla information.

[@scrimpted]

quintessential slack jawed reddit bugman

[@TheLoreLodge]

I’m a trained historian and I’m not even on the left

[@scrimpted]

@@TheLoreLodge "I look stuff up on wikipedia and read from a script that makes me a trained historian" lmfao

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@scrimpted no I have a BA in it and I’m working on my masters lmao

[@scrimpted]

@@TheLoreLodge bachelors in history, so basically a bachelors in quizlet and course hero, get real dude you are not a "trained historian" lmao I know guys that manage subways that have history degrees

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@scrimpted you have no clue what goes into a history degree do you?

[@TopTierHATERCharlie9ines]

"Knowledge nuke DROPPED"

[@InfoNation-LF32]

we look at stairs with steps that are 20 feet tall. what’s up with that?

[@TheLoreLodge]

Can you name a site that you’re referring to?

[@InfoNation-LF32]

@@TheLoreLodge They we’re in the video.

[@mcskillet7106]

It's so hilarious people believe in things such as flat earth and Tartaria.

[@jimmy56100]

Lol the tartaria community isn't saying tartarians were necessarily the ones who built the high tech buildings. If you had watched even just one or 2 videos on the subject you'd know that. Looking at old maps is a very small part of it

[@mirba6933]

Mr. Peter Lynch did not lynch himself.

[@indiopeltier9758]

Why is there a Country Flag for Tartar?

[@joshuaward1390]

because Tartarstan is a Republic of Russia

[@kakarotyung7056]

This guy is one of them one of the scholars who fill us with lies and hidden truths Don't listen to him do your own reserch

[@herbertvulibeciBuks_vuli]

m convinced about the conspiracies of the tartarians. as an architect, even modern day tech cannot make buildings they built back then. question is, if we were very correct with our history, why can't we make advancement in technology and reproduce those buildings in reliability construction. why cant we build more pyramids nowadays, we are a million years advanced than our ancient civilization and still we cant replicate or advance our techniques. if they were horse riding backs civilization, mahn they must've been some smart ass cowboys 🤣

[@sneedsneed9264]

we can reproduce those buldings, please tell me all the building you made so i can avoid them becuase judging by your knowledge on the topic of arcticture i am worried those buildings will collapse

[@johnroach9026]

Have you been to the old city of Warsaw? Walked past the cathederals, palaces and old city walls, dating back to the 13th century? Well do I have a surprise for you - the old city of Warsaw was rebuilt practically from scratch after WW2 after the Germans near-leveled the city. And hey presto, today it is as near as it can get to the true old town. Traditional materials were used, and reference images were put together to devise how it all fit together. If we wanted to, we could easily go back to building with solid stone. We could build new pyramids in a quarter of the time it took the Ancient Egyptians. The issue is, as always, with money and cost effectiveness. The pyramids are essentially giant piles of stone. Concrete and steel is cheaper, doesn't need to be pulled out of the Earth, can be processed on site and also allows engineers to worry a little less about gravity dragging the whole building down, with extremely sturdy rebar. Modern construction materials is just economics determining the best ways of building stuff. tldr: we can build in traditionalist styles, but you better have a mountain of money with you

[@autumnfire1490]

We can build those we just don’t have any reason to anymore there’s no point in building a giant ass pyramid out of stone when we could just use steel and concrete

[@ricardoalves9615]

​@@autumnfire1490 And why we would build a pyramid today for? (being of whatever material) why we would build something that we don't know the practical use of 🤔

[@autumnfire1490]

@@ricardoalves9615 bass pro shop pyramid channels the inner fisherman

[@thegoodthebadtheugly22]

surprised this is still up after your chat with xirtus. he made a mockery of your history education. i hope it was money well spent.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Dude, even he didn’t think he made a mockery of it. We had a very pleasant discussion and I think highly of him. Don’t ruin it by being a bad fan.

[@LBJTV]

so what's the civilisation that built all the huge cathodes/cathedrals around the world? We see the same shit everywhere, the columns/pillars, orbs, domes, antennas and empty areas where quicksilver would've been etc.

[@sneedsneed9264]

the civilization that built cathedrals is called is this ancient civilization called the catholic church

[@autumnfire1490]

The Catholic Church ruled the world and had space ships that’s why they used stone to build things instead of any other better building material

[@ShireLeaf]

Are you in a halfway house in florida?

[@JessiQT17]

When people mention tartaria they mean the technically advanced civilization not a single place. Dude said it himself, they were with horse and buggy yet look at all this huge old world buildings all over the world, they built all those whilst using horse and buggy? No. It was a technically advanced period in time where a reset happened

[@johnroach9026]

No, these great monuments took literal centuries to construct. Just look at the masonry of an old European cathedral for instance, you can see where new techniques have emerged across generations, from the rough, lime covered stonework of the 11th century when the cathederal began construction, to the professional 13th century masonry that shaped the spire and outer wings when it was nearing completion. Cathederals aren't static either, they're in a constant process of upgrade and repair. When vaulted ceilings were developed, often the old wood-supported roofs were stripped off and the high vaulted ceilings were built in. Just because the people in the middle ages predated the Internet didn't mean they were stupid. Armies of professional masons and labourers toiled for generations to get these structures built. Working without combustion engines was simply an engineering issue to get around. Teams of horses pulled carts of stone, labourers could help too with wheelbarrows (discovered by Europeans in the 12th century, which contemporary drawings show carting stone). There are many ways to lighten the load of stone. There is literally zero evidence of Tartaria beyond the shortsighted cartography of Europeans, which often generalised many different groups of Turks, Mongols and other nomadic people of Central Asia into a generic "Tartar" group, since cental Asia didn't matter compared to the much wealthier trade routes of the Silk Road, India and China. You'll notice that even the name "Tartaria" makes zero sense - Tartar is a European loan word from Turkish or Persian "Tātār" meaning "mounted messenger" - the extra R being added by Europeans to connect it with the mythological Tartarus. The suffix -ia also makes zero sense because its root is in Latin. -ia literally "land of" - think Ancient Roman names for places - Germania, Britainnia, Hispania, etc. The Persian equivalent of -ia would be -stan - think Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, etc. Since so many central Asian civilizations used Persian (because it was a language of sophistication and trade), the "Tatars" are a lot more likely to have used the Persian root rather than the Latin one. If we are really assuming a "Tatar" civilization existed, it likely would have called itself "Türkleristan", which clearly isn't on the old maps proponents of Tartaira peddle so much. "Tartaira" is simply a misinterpretation of poorly done Eurocentric cartography

[@paulolvera9243]

@@johnroach9026 listen this is a lot of information that’s probably true but come on fam if your this smart you gotta at least think about or question some of our history

[@johnroach9026]

@@paulolvera9243 Its all good having reasonable doubts about historical accuracy - there are a wide variety of things that are debated among historians and those doubts can fuel research into finding the actual truth - but wild, unfounded speculation that contradicts all available evidence is silly. Fact is that there wasn't a technologically advanced empire in Central Asia, because if there was, there would be a colossal amount of evidence for it, in the form of archaeological finds and written works, among other things. Some old buildings with a conspiracy theory around it is not sufficient evidence to contradict the mountain of evidence to the contrary.

[@christopherlin4706]

@@johnroach9026and the narrative tells us it was made in a decade do you believe the narrative? 😂

[@Spartan-hu2go]

@@johnroach9026finally a voice of reason in the sea of idiocy that is this comment section.

[@lostartifacts1924]

I challenge you to debunk MY LUNCH BREAK KZbin channel

[@TheLoreLodge]

We already did about three hours debunking Mind Unveiled, I’d recommend watching those

[@lostartifacts1924]

@@TheLoreLodge I’ve already did and it’s not really that great I’d strongly recommend you debunk MY LUNCH BREAK he does his research and lays it out better than anyone He even visits these locations himself.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@lostartifacts1924 maybe in a few months, I’m a little burnt out on Tartaria. Also, I’m very curious as to what we got verifiably wrong?

[@lostartifacts1924]

@@TheLoreLodge well to be fair if mind unveiled main expertise is to talk about ancient buildings I would have fired him long time ago. He doesn’t have paperwork to back it up he doesn’t show you what who when and why. MY LUNCH BREAK found many jaw dropping patterns for every ancient building in the documented history he uncovers very strange occurrences again I strongly recommend you debunk this because I know your work is very good here on KZbin I ask you look into this with a reasonable open mind

[@lostartifacts1924]

​@TheLoreLodge you have to check him out, it just may be some hot content if you do a video on his findings. Anyways I hope your having a great day

[@jfeeezy8418]

Lol at this guy

[@OrthodoxLegacy]

Me:Mom I want Stakuyi Mom:We have Stakuyi at home Stakuyi at home:

[@EffARapName]

there's a difference between regurgitating what other people have told you and actually diving deep into finding shit out on your own. Even if you don't fully believe it, it's OK to question the narrative. History was written by the victors.

[@nazru8]

Yeah, It was once a civilization, Now it’s reduced to the name of a Sauce

[@thereynardshow6075]

Haha! I had a feeling you'd make a video about this soon after our conversation. Glad you used that tiktoker rather than I, haha! Though, I must thank you, tartar was a question mark in my mind and you summed it up perfectly and with the historical context to boot. The context is an important part of history that is often skipped in lo of bombastic assertions. Dare I ask of the island of california? Since we are talking about old maps.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

Why would you trust in a baseless context? I think it's foolhardy to assume the history we're given is truthful or for our benefit.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 I understand and appreciate your skepticism about the information we’re given, but when it comes to Tartaria, there is simply no evidence for it. Kings and Generals has a great video on it.

[@modano182]

Jesus the level of smug in this video is beyond belief...ACKSHUALLY

[@axatrin22]

bro if ur so smart explain the super big buildings made thousands years ago

[@SIngli6]

Engineering, determination, and cheap man power.

[@k3digichaos]

Just because a guy has a degree don't make him know everything.

[@antoniocarlosgomesfernedag1637]

soo, and what about the city of Angyan in east coast in the USA, and Sao francisco existing in the maps of america in the 16 century?? what about??

[@joshuaward1390]

San Francisco was founded by the Spanish in 1776 if it was on maps before then it was the Yelamu Native American Tribes that lived in the Area

[@markyoung2573]

God damn thank you for this, about to go down a tartarian shaped rabbit hole 😂

[@TheLoreLodge]

We have two full length videos

[@rocketmanshawn]

If you look up the buildings that are "proof" the whole thing falls apart.

[@rossm2868]

This guy acts like all the lther evidence isnt true, u gotta admig tartaria theory isnt just about The Maps

[@mansonslaughterer]

His mom once told him that if you speak up with enough confidence then you can sound incredibly convincing or what? As much as you claim we are wrong, we could say that about your understanding of maps...

[@cryptojoecoin5480]

I’m old enough to be this young wipper snapper’s father, so I speak from a position of wisdom. He needs to take everything he was taught in school and throw it out instead of parroting the pseudo knowledge as fact. Was he there when the maps were made to verify with his own eyes their validity? Unless he’s a time traveler, me thinks not. His youth gives him a pass for his naivete.

[@lindsjg313]

💯💯💯💯

[@roberte8273]

Thank you for a very informative presentation. I have recently come across a number of presenters that have provided a challenging and highly provocative reinterpretation of life as we know it and the official historical narrative. I find it rather surprising that your discourse resides on the fringe of general consensus. It is both an interesting and compelling realisation that we (as the general consensus) are prepared to tolerate historical revision of Tartaria and other fringe related topics, yet cower from an open and respectful revision of the official World War II narrative concerning the Jewish holocaust. It would seem that some topics of so called "History" and "stuff" are more open for rigorous investigation and assessment than others. It is a damning inditement on contemporary society that those whom are brave enough to present facts that negate the official narrative are persecuted with incarceration and/or financial/professional ruin.

[@whattheysayk9558]

Without a doubt, this is the type of person that believes everything NASA says about the galaxy 😂

[@dalittlebearjew8525]

Yeah he does look like a Space nerd 😂

[@truesosense7722]

And you the guy that believes that the earth is flat 😂

[@hamzahahmad1670]

"Do your own research" is equivalent to saying that you don't have any ACTUAL proof to submit. If I want to convince people about something and I have REAL sources, I would spam those in the comments.

[@nasty4451]

Lol. Some people can't see past the end of their nose

[@TheLoreLodge]

I have three and a half hours of video debunking this theory lmao

[@nasty4451]

@@TheLoreLodge I'd say too much time on your hands.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@nasty4451 this is my job broski

[@arebelscum9495]

​@@TheLoreLodgeBruh, i learned farr more history from the Crusader Kings video game than the people who support the Tartaria conspiracy theory have in there entire lives.

[@HDPersonal777]

@@arebelscum9495video games are designed by the CIA!

[@Squrrillyadams]

Thats exactly what a shill would say.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Or a guy who spends his entire day studying this shit

[@allezxander1232]

Tartaria is maybe the most ignorant conspiracy theory out there and its stunning how many people just take it at face value because it sounds cool.

[@diogenes42069]

I mean it's way more intelligent than say 5,000-year-old flat Earth 🤣

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

That's not the reason it's gained interest, but whatever, regardless it pales in comparison to the vast number of lemming drones that take everything they've ever been told as the gospel truth. Keep taking those blue pills by the handfuls.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

What's actually stunning is how people like you don't ever look at anything or ponder much at all, not even a cursory overview, but when you want to make a broad sweeping generation of a "conspiracy theory" that you know little to nothing of, it's that it merely appears cool and is 'maybe' the most ignorant one out there.... the irony / hypocrisy is truly so rich and creamy. Like tartar sauce.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

@@diogenes42069 you'd be surprised how much they go hand in hand. The funny thing is that most 'flat earthers' start off vehemently skeptical, dismissive and even hostile to the notion, until they're confronted with enough information to see through the cognitive dissonance.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

@@diogenes42069 the flat earth map is 500 years older than the oldest globe, but if you wish to believe in modern wisdom than more power to you. The funny thing is though that most 'flat earthers' actually started off vehemently skeptical and dismissive of the very notion.

[@lindsayball5080]

Tartaria the Millennial Kingdom of Jesus Christ

[@pierce9870]

don't waste your time with these npcs guys they believe what makes them comfortable

[@TheLoreLodge]

I am quite literally a historian

[@1974fatback]

@@TheLoreLodge Get’em!!

[@axatrin22]

@@TheLoreLodge bro u learn history from sources that are controlled by other people so they could change informations completly

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@axatrin22 I learn my history from the primary sources lol

[@axatrin22]

@@TheLoreLodge but u sure its always True 💀

[@jamesjames7601]

Dude really made an entire video and didn't know what he was talking about

[@Emppu_T.]

Tartars live till this day

[@HoezNjuice]

Who told u u was smart an could talk in that condescending tone?

[@TheLoreLodge]

My four degrees

[@Taymiiyyah]

Anyone else getting potter vibes ?

[@andyalback7710]

“i’M A pRiMaRy SoUrCe DoCUmEnT hIStOriAn” Meanwhile, The United States keeps going further down the list in education.

[@youarewrong5523]

the terminology we use nowadays isnt the same as they used in the old days 🤓

[@philipgarraway9234]

Tartaria was a Civilisation not a Country, a bit like the Celts

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

Ok and we can name them the countries that were part of that civilization. Crimea, Kazan, Nogai etc. these people are still around today, but as stated in the video there are horse cultures, like the mongols.

[@DeshawnCarter13]

So explain how the buildings got there.

[@TheLoreLodge]

We built them???

[@Headead5231]

I trust the tartarria guy more.

[@TheLoreLodge]

He doesn’t believe in it either, he just was telling the story

[@SilentiumCivis]

@@TheLoreLodge Your ego is too big

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@SilentiumCivis well when it comes to history I happen to be very qualified

[@user-ys9ke5cj1n]

@@TheLoreLodge how about biblical history what about that is that stuff accurate?

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge they called it "His story" for a reason

[@trashpanda9615]

I’m all about conspiracies and mysteries Atlantis, Bigfoot, shadow government, hallow earth you name it my ears are open but whenever anyone brings up the theory of Tartaria and the “mud flood”, my eyes roll so far into the back of my head I see my own @ss crack. It’s so so stupid and it really aggravates me

[@LaForjaEspiritual]

Don't you guys think it's weird that the whole humanity started counting years just around 2-3 thousand years ago? How did they even get to build such mind blowing structures and hold such powerful knowledge if they could not even count years? Hmmm idk everything sounds off when you start thinking about our past...

[@pandemicphilly60]

That's just our system. People still measured time before 1 AD

[@sadplatinum7552]

not a single part of your comment is correct. how did you manage to be so wrong?

[@Fyreshield]

I could have sworn the title said terraria so when I saw the channel name I was so lost

[@judicebastard3524]

What you say actually props up the theory, it doesn’t rebut it at alll. Look into it

[@michaelcote1942]

A Good Answer I Have Heard Before.

[@lukekiefer5964]

Look at me! I can recite “facts” rather than think!

[@TheLoreLodge]

I am a trained historian, and 99% of the Tartaria stuff is easily explained by known history. You are being told that a mystery exists when it does not.

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge you are just a religious zealot reading propaganda from your expert priest professors.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@meinkek7896 I’m literally a trained historian using primary source documents and artifacts to support my claims in literally every video I make

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge a lot of "Primary sources" are just bluepilled propaganda for normies. There are old documents that mention "The great wall of tartary" and when i go to wall itself in Badaling from beijing in 2010 the ramparts are facing south. Also the architectural style doesn't match the chinese mainland. It matches european medieval age. NPC's like you dont have Research, original thought, critical thinking. Only recite the priest professor, like a religous zealot. Science is like a cult nowdays

[@autumnfire1490]

Look at me! I can recite Facebook posts rather than think!

[@Fummy007]

Tartarstan in Russia still exists