The Lost Civilization of Tartaria

[@soresl]

Anyone who acts like they have a perfect understanding of how things were 200+ years ago should be questioned.

[@sparkspark2314]

KaaAAABOOOOOOOOOOOOom

[@speed_demon420]

Especially when you have multiple history lines right now from the left and right and all other positions

[@seanp8220]

Nobody said nothing should not be questioned

[@Janiah_isthatgurl]

Lmaoaooaoaoaoao

[@soresl]

@@seanp8220 He speaks in the video as if he has a perfect understanding. Maybe you misread the comment.

[@diogenes42069]

Oh yeah then how do you explain tartar sauce

[@greatbingus]

checkmate gaytheists

[@jaw1970]

I laughed when I saw your reply thinking you were joking but you’re actually serious please tell me I’m wrong. We haven’t lost a civilisation there were big balloons and zeppelins but man has been building since God created him and although I hate Babylon if you were to see it in its full glory they had chariot races on top of the walls four deep. When you think these structures pulled energy out of the sky I’m not saying that’s impossible but you are pulled into a Psychological operation and I truly hope you find your way out. Please don’t waste your time there is precious left of it. I say all this with love

[@diogenes42069]

@@jaw1970 dude you have a very high opinion of yourself you should try being a little bit more humble you're not as smart as you think you are and it's super cringy... And Yes buzz Killington it's a joke but you outright dismissing the possibility of A Lost Civilization is just as unintelligent as the people who claim every legend that fits their worldview is true

[@seanpaul4713]

www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp78-02771r000200090002-6 Ita real

[@jimmy56100]

​​@@jaw1970 Hope you find your way out yourself. Some of us prefer more proof than one religious book. Tartaria was a real civilization. We don't know why but it's pretty easy to prove their history has been atleast partially wiped. The high tech buildings speak for themselves. Some of them still generate energy. They used cymatic patterns that channel frequencies. It's not some psyop lol

[@SomeOfMyBusiness]

Funny how the first video when searching what is Tartarian is debunking it lol

[@salochinnotlimah2406]

That’s how you know they’re lying

[@TutankhamaruCapac]

Can someone please ACTUALLY explain what the theory consists of? Most of the internet is content is either out to debunk it or consists of vague and broad old map lore without clarifying what's the deal with this Tartaria stuff..

[@SomeOfMyBusiness]

@@TutankhamaruCapac I'm South African and we're still pretty cultural with at least 200 years of story going back so I "know" a lot of mainstream history has been "white washed". From what I gather the Tartaria thing just proves there was a power structure before the current West/East dynamic. Taking stories of giants especially into consideration to my tribe, I wouldn't be surprised if there were giants running things back then. As for flat earth in relation to the Tartaria thing 🤔 I'm at a stage where I'm confidently sitting on the fence coz I need to go up and see for myself (somehow).

[@organichuman]

​@@TutankhamaruCapacYou have to find the right channels to understand or investigate the claims or evidence. These things are shadowbanned on YT so it is tricky to find and I can't help because I would likely have my comment shadowbanned for trying. This is how the YT AI works. No free speech and no freedom, even scientists and doctors aren't immune.

[@oftin_wong]

​@@salochinnotlimah2406people who think everything is a lie are themselves the most dishonest oxygen thieves you'll ever meet

[@jean-pierrefernandez2460]

youve lost your hairspray privileges

[@villian2.]

😂😂😂😂

[@jennifernorman9655]

It's not hairspray... 😮

[@ChadDidNothingWrong]

​egg whites? @@jennifernorman9655

[@scream8448]

😂

[@Tk52781]

@@jennifernorman9655”is that hair gel”?😂

[@slushisimcambi2521]

Oh man I love Terraria

[@اباقلقلة-ز7ب]

Me too

[@اباقلقلة-ز7ب]

Bro

[@Isaac-zs2oi]

people that try to disprove tartaria are the people who think federal reserve notes is real money

[@SilentiumCivis]

No, that is such a reach of an insult. How those 2 mix is beyond me. Please explain.

[@hernandezmarkie7382]

And Biden voters

[@humanityincvideos5114]

It’s not? Loo

[@unicornkitteh5332]

​@@humanityincvideos5114our "fiat currency" only has value because people BELIEVE it does. The only tangible thing of value that backs the US dollar, is the promise of labor from future generations. (You should look into what your birth certificate and social security number are ACTUALLY used for)

[@seanpaul4713]

www.cia.gov/readingroom/document/cia-rdp78-02771r000200090002-6 Tartaria is real for the disbelievers

[@zhanibek_kk]

“Wasn’t ruled by any recognized country”. Khanate of Crimea, Golden Horde, Khanate of Kazan, Kazakh Khanate, Shaybanid Khanate, Khanate of Bukhara, Dzungar Khanate. He tries to make a good point but is undermined by his own ignorance,

[@TheLoreLodge]

The entire area referred to as “Tartaria” was not ruled by any recognized country. There were numerous smaller countries within the region.

[@zhanibek_kk]

@@TheLoreLodge it never was lol. Tartaria was divided between the Qing, Iran and Russian Empire. And the Golden Horde, or for that matter any of the earlier nomadic empires like the Mongol Empire or Kipchak Confederation hardly qualify as “smaller countries”. All of these states were “recognized countries” that had treaties and embassies across Europe and Asia.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@zhanibek_kk when we’re talking about “Tartaria” in the context of the time in which that term was being used on maps, no country covered that entire region.

[@zhanibek_kk]

@@TheLoreLodge the term came into use in the 13th century, when the Mongol Empire ruled that entire region.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@zhanibek_kk they didn’t rule the entire region, and that’s not when the maps are from.

[@TS-yf2zf]

Nope. There's definitely something off with the narrative. I've been in construction all my life (now 40) & have seen some very unexplainable shit in old buildings. Not to mention the methods used to construct them. Sorry but first hand experience actually touching & seeing these anomalies leads to more questions that cannot be simply answered. Whilst I'm not saying it is definitely Tartaria what I am saying is we've been lied to about some of the older structures. In my experience

[@TheLoreLodge]

Can you give an example?

[@danf7411]

The neo classical buildings are beautiful I don't think it was tartarian but I think we lost our spirit after the industrial revolution personally. It is weird how they decimated those buildings

[@Tastyduckling5]

Stick to small scale buddy

[@jimmy56100]

As someone who follows the Tartaria subject very closely. People in the community aren't saying the high tech buildings were necessity tartaria either. So anyone thinking they've successfully dismissed the whole thing is only showing they haven't even looked into it. That's fascinating but not surprising at all. We don't have any genuine construction photos of the cathedrals and castles, yet do with everything else. They're in every country and built in times when the population numbers couldn't have possibly built them

[@butterflywatching34]

​@@Charlotte-yx4sh agree in Brussel, Belgium you got a lot of them and there is not sure from what time those buildings are!

[@jojossagas]

There’s literally declassified CIA documents that admit they wiped Tartarian history from the history books lol ….

[@theholychromosome7519]

Link the documents

[@experiencaled]

Link? 😊😊

[@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472]

May I see them?

[@thesolantor8624]

Link please

[@jojossagas]

@Chris Porter “ For example, on 9 August 1944, the Central Committee of the Communist Party, sitting in Moscow, issued a directive ordering the party's Tartar Provinciai Committee "to proceed to a scientific revision o fthe historyo f Tartaria, to liquidate seriousshortcomings and mistakes of a nationalistic character committed by ind1- vidual writers and historians In dealing with Tartar history." 12/ In other words, Tartar history was to be rewritten--let us be frank, was to be falsified--in order to eliminate references to Great Russian aggressions” that’s what it says … Falsified ….. but fast forward to present time and every main stream historian denies it, there’s media who call it a conspiracy theory and the sheeple going along with the narrative 🤣 Even though there’s still old maps with Tartaria on it, it’s still taught in Russian schools etc Like god damn wake up people, how long are you going to defend a government and system that lies to you and treats you like disposable insects

[@BW-gc2mp]

Mate I could draw a random map and someone in the future would say it’s a secret city

[@diogenes42069]

That's assuming a lot about the intelligence of the roaches who will inherit the earth after world war 3 lol

[@justinjohnson5262]

@@diogenes42069 what roach are you voting for?

[@alice_agogo]

@@diogenes42069 future roaches will be smarter than all present day Americans 🇺🇸

[@BW-gc2mp]

@Amy Wade waffle

[@testingagain6525]

​@@BW-gc2mptartaria has flags re tard

[@Caramelesque]

I met this person who said North America is Egypt, and was controlled by Mithras worshipping Aristocratic Celtic peoples 1500 years ago...So, Gen Z is screwed lol ...

[@HDPersonal777]

Text books are screwed and overpriced too!!

[@wastrelperv]

I'm mildly impressed they bring up Mithras, he's not obscure, but not a big name everybody knows. I'm surprised Celtic and not something more PoC, Polynesian would make more sense and fit Gen Z's views better. And their features can sort of line-up with the art of the Americas.

[@tonyfriendly4409]

The thing about Steppe nomads is that they oftentimes control large swathes of land that nobody really lives on. There aren't many towns or farms on the Steppe (at least there haven't been historically).

[@Obsidian_Dad]

The only source for Tartaria are old Europe’s maps so some faceless organization was able to completely rewrite history destroyed documents from dozens of civilizations and empires. White washed it all, but somehow forgot to do the same to some maps you could find it a local store.

[@jermanhernandez3050]

This dude wakes you up to tell you hes going to sleep

[@melita524e]

😂

[@tibb75]

dont sleep too hard, you might fall off your flat globe, tartard

[@StevenLeeStudios]

@@tibb75 yall always resort to insults when you hear things that you are programmed to not want to hear.

[@tibb75]

@@StevenLeeStudios if you hear the theories of tartaria or flat earth and believe them, you deserve any insult lobbed at you

[@StevenLeeStudios]

@@tibb75 read your words again, "if you hear the theories." So im not allowed to even hear or listen to what people are saying about the matter? You must be a Biden voter. Close minded and brainwashed to oblivion. So hurt because it shatters all the things you learned. Did you also think Jeffrey Epstein killed himself and that he wasnt working as an elite child sex trafficker? Or was that a Q anon conspiracy theory?

[@turtspotato]

Why do all the tartaria believers in this comment section resort to claims with no solid proof or ad hominens?

[@HDPersonal777]

You = 🐀🤥

[@lauranelson7479]

Research on your own. Don't be lazy. There is ton's of proof out there.

[@SIngli6]

Then SHOW us.@@lauranelson7479

[@citizenvulpes4562]

​@@lauranelson7479 I have officially lost hope in humanity if you guys believe in this tartaria nonsense. It's fairytale BULLSHIT.

[@mcskillet7106]

@@lauranelson7479 Your comment is priceless. It's funny that it's always this response that's given when faced with skepticism.

[@mhoovair89]

Controlled op?

[@TrillPlanet]

Damn he is a historian guys

[@HDPersonal777]

Lol 😂😂

[@Cornermouse1]

Your hair convinced me.

[@thelonelystoner4676]

I like to believe tartaria is the name we gave the empire of ghengis kahn

[@sinoist742]

You are actually incredibly close with that presumption. Tartaria was a designation created by the Europeans to refer to the many tribes and khanates which formed across Eurasia after the collapse of the Mongol Empire led by Genghis Khan.

[@johnroach9026]

Pretty much right on the head there, the Tartars were simply a way of lumping together the dozens of fragmented khanates and ethnic groups of the Eurasian steppe, which was unimportant to cartographers of the 15th-18th century compared to the far richer regions of Persia, India and China which merchants who would use their maps would want to know about. "Tartaira" simply fills the big empty gap in Siberia

[@christopherlin4706]

@@johnroach9026still the maps show extremely urban areas in Tartarian regions with much density and it seems that the mystique of the land was very profound regardless, so why didn’t they call it multiple polities and always refer it as Tartaria? Clearly after hundreds of years they would know there would be different tribes and khanates?

[@seanp8220]

1705 book of flags Omitted Empire which dominated the world

[@Mahsterch]

@@seanp8220 Ottoman Empire?

[@mcskillet7106]

It's so hilarious people believe in things such as flat earth and Tartaria.

[@mosesrodriguez8167]

God damn Mongolians!! Keep knocking down my chitty whall!

[@kakarotyung7056]

This guy is one of them one of the scholars who fill us with lies and hidden truths Don't listen to him do your own reserch

[@katiecoollady]

Tartaria is a state of mind

[@pamelawinson3192]

Tartaria is older Europe.. Many buildings with tunnels etc built for the disaster ages I believe..

[@pamelawinson3192]

Which includes Russia China India and more ..tartaria..

[@grantsampson776]

That state of mind is called Gullible Insanity

[@evgeniam685]

That's what they say about russians. Russian isn't nationality, it's state of mind

[@seanp8220]

Official historians might wanna look into the 1705 book of flags.

[@friartuck103]

They also invented tartar sauce as well...

[@lalli8152]

Tartar steak as well

[@jimmy56100]

Lol the tartaria community isn't saying tartarians were necessarily the ones who built the high tech buildings. If you had watched even just one or 2 videos on the subject you'd know that. Looking at old maps is a very small part of it

[@Iamjulez27]

You know so much about history wow. Do you have a NASA tattoo? 😊

[@mariochavez9963]

He has it tattooed on his asshole 🤣

[@pivgfm]

haha.right?and that smug imma tell you how your wrong attitude. ‘Oh please tell us more about what you know about history’…sheesh. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@shagbot69 I will happily debate literally anyone on this topic lmao

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@shagbot69 oh so now it’s that no “serious researcher” would debate me? I thought your criticism was that we won’t debate you? By your own logic, you are now the one with something to prove. Find me someone. I’ll have them on the show.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@shagbot69 I’m 25 lmao

[@kittycat8222]

“Trust me bro. Thousands of old world building were built in under 20 years on dirt roads by horse and buggy families.”

[@pandemicphilly60]

Most cathedrals take centuries to build. Also, have you ever built a horse and buggy?

[@kittycat8222]

@@pandemicphilly60 horses and buggies can be brought on boats too though.

[@speed_demon420]

We'll just have these rickety wooden shacks right next to them too. Progress.

[@kittycat8222]

@@speed_demon420 right! Proof is all around.

[@citizenvulpes4562]

Your name is "kitty cat"

[@jeremypaluck4246]

A soyboy making this argument is the cherry on top

[@seanp8220]

He's been sent out to strawman and pretend it wasn't an Empire. Laughable. Also attempting the "antisemitic" smear. Mainstream credentials through and through. Brainwashed.

[@wastrelperv]

I wanna drink the soy from your sweet nectar. 🥵😭😭😭

[@citizenvulpes4562]

People actually believe this tartaria nonsense? Jesus Christ, please save us, for we are doomed as a species.

[@jeremypaluck4246]

@@citizenvulpes4562 I wouldn't say people believe it or worship it like cult members worship mainstream history. There is definitely some questionable stuff in human history though.

[@whattheysayk9558]

Without a doubt, this is the type of person that believes everything NASA says about the galaxy 😂

[@dalittlebearjew8525]

Yeah he does look like a Space nerd 😂

[@truesosense7722]

And you the guy that believes that the earth is flat 😂

[@JessiQT17]

When people mention tartaria they mean the technically advanced civilization not a single place. Dude said it himself, they were with horse and buggy yet look at all this huge old world buildings all over the world, they built all those whilst using horse and buggy? No. It was a technically advanced period in time where a reset happened

[@johnroach9026]

No, these great monuments took literal centuries to construct. Just look at the masonry of an old European cathedral for instance, you can see where new techniques have emerged across generations, from the rough, lime covered stonework of the 11th century when the cathederal began construction, to the professional 13th century masonry that shaped the spire and outer wings when it was nearing completion. Cathederals aren't static either, they're in a constant process of upgrade and repair. When vaulted ceilings were developed, often the old wood-supported roofs were stripped off and the high vaulted ceilings were built in. Just because the people in the middle ages predated the Internet didn't mean they were stupid. Armies of professional masons and labourers toiled for generations to get these structures built. Working without combustion engines was simply an engineering issue to get around. Teams of horses pulled carts of stone, labourers could help too with wheelbarrows (discovered by Europeans in the 12th century, which contemporary drawings show carting stone). There are many ways to lighten the load of stone. There is literally zero evidence of Tartaria beyond the shortsighted cartography of Europeans, which often generalised many different groups of Turks, Mongols and other nomadic people of Central Asia into a generic "Tartar" group, since cental Asia didn't matter compared to the much wealthier trade routes of the Silk Road, India and China. You'll notice that even the name "Tartaria" makes zero sense - Tartar is a European loan word from Turkish or Persian "Tātār" meaning "mounted messenger" - the extra R being added by Europeans to connect it with the mythological Tartarus. The suffix -ia also makes zero sense because its root is in Latin. -ia literally "land of" - think Ancient Roman names for places - Germania, Britainnia, Hispania, etc. The Persian equivalent of -ia would be -stan - think Kazakhstan, Afghanistan, etc. Since so many central Asian civilizations used Persian (because it was a language of sophistication and trade), the "Tatars" are a lot more likely to have used the Persian root rather than the Latin one. If we are really assuming a "Tatar" civilization existed, it likely would have called itself "Türkleristan", which clearly isn't on the old maps proponents of Tartaira peddle so much. "Tartaira" is simply a misinterpretation of poorly done Eurocentric cartography

[@paulolvera9243]

@@johnroach9026 listen this is a lot of information that’s probably true but come on fam if your this smart you gotta at least think about or question some of our history

[@johnroach9026]

@@paulolvera9243 Its all good having reasonable doubts about historical accuracy - there are a wide variety of things that are debated among historians and those doubts can fuel research into finding the actual truth - but wild, unfounded speculation that contradicts all available evidence is silly. Fact is that there wasn't a technologically advanced empire in Central Asia, because if there was, there would be a colossal amount of evidence for it, in the form of archaeological finds and written works, among other things. Some old buildings with a conspiracy theory around it is not sufficient evidence to contradict the mountain of evidence to the contrary.

[@christopherlin4706]

@@johnroach9026and the narrative tells us it was made in a decade do you believe the narrative? 😂

[@Spartan-hu2go]

@@johnroach9026finally a voice of reason in the sea of idiocy that is this comment section.

[@edwardvannoy15]

I was thinking of the antediluvian people who spread their knowledge of megalithic building.

[@TheLoreLodge]

See THAT is worth discussing

[@Toumasu]

Lol.. this explanation doesn't mean anything

[@indianOutlaw87.5]

But mud flood 😢

[@TrevorTargaryen]

Buddy 😪

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

But mah blue pills... But mah need to be a lemming sheep... But there's too many movies and baseball games to think critically about anything, let alone falsified history...

[@indianOutlaw87.5]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 waaaaaa

[@meinkek7896]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 but experts say.... But the paper say.... But the priest professor from church harvard say.... But... The peer reviewed say....

[@seanp8220]

1850 almost every city is covered in mud. Why ? No explanation.

[@axatrin22]

bro if ur so smart explain the super big buildings made thousands years ago

[@SIngli6]

Engineering, determination, and cheap man power.

[@Starvin_Marvin138]

I love how they try to say that everything we see isn't true. We say there seems to be links to a great civilization that was wiped out by a mud flood because there's maps with the name and a bunch of buildings with 2 stories buried under the ground and they say "absolutely not, everything that you see isn't true and you should only listen to us." Wizard priests.

[@cryptojoecoin5480]

I’m old enough to be this young wipper snapper’s father, so I speak from a position of wisdom. He needs to take everything he was taught in school and throw it out instead of parroting the pseudo knowledge as fact. Was he there when the maps were made to verify with his own eyes their validity? Unless he’s a time traveler, me thinks not. His youth gives him a pass for his naivete.

[@lindsjg313]

💯💯💯💯

[@alice_agogo]

We don't want to understand. All hail Tartaria! 🙌🙌🙌

[@kingsj7662]

😂😂😂

[@mummynapkin.]

so cool seeing this be the first thing that comes up when you type tartaria in... definitely gonna listen to whacky talking funny moving youtube guy... burn lmaooo

[@DansFire8]

...and they invented tartar sauce. And now you know.

[@herbertvulibeciBuks_vuli]

m convinced about the conspiracies of the tartarians. as an architect, even modern day tech cannot make buildings they built back then. question is, if we were very correct with our history, why can't we make advancement in technology and reproduce those buildings in reliability construction. why cant we build more pyramids nowadays, we are a million years advanced than our ancient civilization and still we cant replicate or advance our techniques. if they were horse riding backs civilization, mahn they must've been some smart ass cowboys 🤣

[@sneedsneed9264]

we can reproduce those buldings, please tell me all the building you made so i can avoid them becuase judging by your knowledge on the topic of arcticture i am worried those buildings will collapse

[@johnroach9026]

Have you been to the old city of Warsaw? Walked past the cathederals, palaces and old city walls, dating back to the 13th century? Well do I have a surprise for you - the old city of Warsaw was rebuilt practically from scratch after WW2 after the Germans near-leveled the city. And hey presto, today it is as near as it can get to the true old town. Traditional materials were used, and reference images were put together to devise how it all fit together. If we wanted to, we could easily go back to building with solid stone. We could build new pyramids in a quarter of the time it took the Ancient Egyptians. The issue is, as always, with money and cost effectiveness. The pyramids are essentially giant piles of stone. Concrete and steel is cheaper, doesn't need to be pulled out of the Earth, can be processed on site and also allows engineers to worry a little less about gravity dragging the whole building down, with extremely sturdy rebar. Modern construction materials is just economics determining the best ways of building stuff. tldr: we can build in traditionalist styles, but you better have a mountain of money with you

[@autumnfire1490]

We can build those we just don’t have any reason to anymore there’s no point in building a giant ass pyramid out of stone when we could just use steel and concrete

[@ricardoalves9615]

​@@autumnfire1490 And why we would build a pyramid today for? (being of whatever material) why we would build something that we don't know the practical use of 🤔

[@autumnfire1490]

@@ricardoalves9615 bass pro shop pyramid channels the inner fisherman

[@hehsuess5431]

Thanks for actually explaining this

[@familyread7889]

He’s so clever lol

[@lisamcd1291]

😅🤦‍♀️ do better research.. France was even known as Little Tartaria, Ukraine too. Bf Bonaparte & the Masons did... Who wears Tartans today?

[@EffARapName]

there's a difference between regurgitating what other people have told you and actually diving deep into finding shit out on your own. Even if you don't fully believe it, it's OK to question the narrative. History was written by the victors.

[@tomthumb5242]

He must know stuff. Look how his hair stands up

[@artvandelay5157]

You have a real knack for taking fascinating subjects and somehow being able to make incredibly boring videos about them.

[@seanp8220]

The only one I've seen do that. No wonder he's jealous at actually informed channels.

[@wastrelperv]

Is this Gen Z's brilliant and elaborate prank? Is it perhaps a snarky revenge against those who demean our generation for its perceived ignorance and gullible nature that attaches itself to dangerous ideas and foolish trends? In this case seemingly a stupid alt-history trend, but really designed to dupe everyone else with confirmation bias? Is it organized on discord or something? Or perhaps more likely, organic and flexible, growing without any guiding authority, each voice adding to the pot being as valid as the last so long as it denies the established narrative, warps the truth, and ultimately confuses those not in the know. Disprove one bizarre theory and two more shall take its place. Deny everything that is taken as true and lie relentlessly until the narrative becomes bogged down in nonsense and the truth becomes blurred in the eyes of the gullible and the deluded. Lie until the lie becomes the truth. Hail Hydra...?

[@lindsjg313]

😂😂😂😂 right!?

[@Cade805]

OMG THE CREEPY MUSIC WAS AWESOME during that lava hole sequence 28:49

[@InfoNation-LF32]

we look at stairs with steps that are 20 feet tall. what’s up with that?

[@TheLoreLodge]

Can you name a site that you’re referring to?

[@InfoNation-LF32]

@@TheLoreLodge They we’re in the video.

[@youarewrong5523]

the terminology we use nowadays isnt the same as they used in the old days 🤓

[@alexdomar4014]

What about Portuguese explorer Ferdinand Mendez pinto writing of ‘beautiful geniuses’ from this great tartaria

[@alexdomar4014]

Genuine question , I honestly don’t know shit about history lol but I just know of this book

[@TheLoreLodge]

I haven’t read the account, but “Tartaria” was the term used by many to refer to Central Asia. Little was understood about the actual demography or national boundaries of the regions within “Tartaria”

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge you need to dig more.

[@johnroach9026]

​@@alexdomar4014 Tartaria is a very Latin way for naming a people or empire. Tartar is a loan word from the Persian Tātār, meaning "mounted messenger", the extra r associating it with the mythological Tartarus since that was what Europeans were into. No central Asian ethnic group prior to Russian colonisation called themselves Tatars (the modern "Tatars" are Turkic people). -ia is a Latin suffix meaning "land of". The legitimate Persian suffix would be -stan. A more legitimate descriptor of "Tartaria" might be Türkleristan, or something similar

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

Because Tartaria exists, buts it’s a region referred to the Eurasian steppes, not a civilisation. It’s like calling the Himalayas or the Atlantic Ocean a civilisation it makes no sense at all.

[@iamtheprincekingdavidsaysy9028]

fare well tartaria, Hello Enochia. ready or not. AT YOUR MARKS, READY, SET,..... RESET!

[@TrevorTargaryen]

Not the people that believe in the “Mud flood” shit had me rolling 😂

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

Not as much as you'll be rolling with the next reset and flood. Rolling in mud and eating your infantile words.

[@rudeboi9799]

Mudflood is real . Not that you looked into it

[@autumnfire1490]

@@ThefirstdaysRthehardestDays yeah I seen liquifaction in person and yes that is far fetched

[@allezxander1232]

Tartaria is maybe the most ignorant conspiracy theory out there and its stunning how many people just take it at face value because it sounds cool.

[@diogenes42069]

I mean it's way more intelligent than say 5,000-year-old flat Earth 🤣

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

That's not the reason it's gained interest, but whatever, regardless it pales in comparison to the vast number of lemming drones that take everything they've ever been told as the gospel truth. Keep taking those blue pills by the handfuls.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

What's actually stunning is how people like you don't ever look at anything or ponder much at all, not even a cursory overview, but when you want to make a broad sweeping generation of a "conspiracy theory" that you know little to nothing of, it's that it merely appears cool and is 'maybe' the most ignorant one out there.... the irony / hypocrisy is truly so rich and creamy. Like tartar sauce.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

@@diogenes42069 you'd be surprised how much they go hand in hand. The funny thing is that most 'flat earthers' start off vehemently skeptical, dismissive and even hostile to the notion, until they're confronted with enough information to see through the cognitive dissonance.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

@@diogenes42069 the flat earth map is 500 years older than the oldest globe, but if you wish to believe in modern wisdom than more power to you. The funny thing is though that most 'flat earthers' actually started off vehemently skeptical and dismissive of the very notion.

[@phonixsirtta7887]

Tartaria was world wide and the Devs wiped it out, how that happened no one knows

[@indiopeltier9758]

Why is there a Country Flag for Tartar?

[@danomari3384]

difference between Italy and other countries were, they haven't tried to wipe them off the map, or remove their history, always ask yourself why they have chosen to do that. And horse back riding maybe.. however horse and carts did not build all those ancient buildings. Also the world fairs try to say all those buildings were built in two years, hmmmm

[@axatrin22]

yeah this guy in video claims to be historian so hes talking truth bc he learn from sources that are controlled by other people

[@pandemicphilly60]

But THEY CAN. WE CAN. WE HAVE AND WE ARE. It's not like you can't build cathedrals and castles today. People do build them and with old technology. You can't deny what's real.

[@axatrin22]

@@pandemicphilly60 explain how piramids were made with "old technology"?

[@pierce9870]

don't waste your time with these npcs guys they believe what makes them comfortable

[@TheLoreLodge]

I am quite literally a historian

[@1974fatback]

@@TheLoreLodge Get’em!!

[@axatrin22]

@@TheLoreLodge bro u learn history from sources that are controlled by other people so they could change informations completly

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@axatrin22 I learn my history from the primary sources lol

[@axatrin22]

@@TheLoreLodge but u sure its always True 💀

[@LBJTV]

so what's the civilisation that built all the huge cathodes/cathedrals around the world? We see the same shit everywhere, the columns/pillars, orbs, domes, antennas and empty areas where quicksilver would've been etc.

[@sneedsneed9264]

the civilization that built cathedrals is called is this ancient civilization called the catholic church

[@autumnfire1490]

The Catholic Church ruled the world and had space ships that’s why they used stone to build things instead of any other better building material

[@jankobalog3609]

Bro if you don't believe it that's fine but I live in UK and Slovakia you can clearly see the mood flood and the building are so advanced plus no chimneys

[@johnqpublic2718]

Op, we've got a historian folks.

[@LaForjaEspiritual]

Don't you guys think it's weird that the whole humanity started counting years just around 2-3 thousand years ago? How did they even get to build such mind blowing structures and hold such powerful knowledge if they could not even count years? Hmmm idk everything sounds off when you start thinking about our past...

[@pandemicphilly60]

That's just our system. People still measured time before 1 AD

[@sadplatinum7552]

not a single part of your comment is correct. how did you manage to be so wrong?

[@philipgarraway9234]

Tartaria was a Civilisation not a Country, a bit like the Celts

[@francogiobbimontesanti3826]

Ok and we can name them the countries that were part of that civilization. Crimea, Kazan, Nogai etc. these people are still around today, but as stated in the video there are horse cultures, like the mongols.

[@robertlazar758]

Tartaria is a city in Romania. And guess what we found there a few years ago? The oldest human writings, 5500 B.C. So, is that theory still crazy?! You tell me!

[@rocketmanshawn]

If you look up the buildings that are "proof" the whole thing falls apart.

[@nazru8]

Yeah, It was once a civilization, Now it’s reduced to the name of a Sauce

[@antoniocarlosgomesfernedag1637]

soo, and what about the city of Angyan in east coast in the USA, and Sao francisco existing in the maps of america in the 16 century?? what about??

[@markyoung2573]

God damn thank you for this, about to go down a tartarian shaped rabbit hole 😂

[@TheLoreLodge]

We have two full length videos

[@judicebastard3524]

What you say actually props up the theory, it doesn’t rebut it at alll. Look into it

[@BirdmansDen]

It was not great tartaria, but amalgamation of different khanates who emerged from remnants of Mongol empire, such as Uzbek, Kazakh, Astrakhan khanates and etc.

[@BirdmansDen]

My parents who were from that region believe there was such country, yeah i am ashamed that they felt to such pseudo science

[@christopherlin4706]

The khanates were United as one

[@BirdmansDen]

@christopherlin4706 they were united during mongol empire, after fall every warlord pursued their own goals there were no major unity among tribes

[@christopherlin4706]

@@BirdmansDen this is a lie of history.

[@unicornkitteh5332]

Tell me you know absolutely NOTHING about Tartaria without saying you know absolutely NOTHING about Tartaria. Its NOT the same thing as "countries had different names hundreds of years ago". There is far more to it guy. The [unnecessarily] massive cathedrals, castles, temples, etc that all have the exact same style & attributes - can be found all over the world, including in the US (before it was supposedly "discovered") - yet none of these countries had contact with eachother during the time period that these buildings were built. Not to mention the excessiveness of these buildings - why did the builders feel it was necessary to consistently have 20 foot tall doors? Why are all these buildings so massive? How were they built? How many people are required to realistically build these clearly advanced architecture made entirely out of stone, during a period where everyone rode horseback? How were those giant stones moved hundreds & thousands of miles from a quarry... with nothing but a damn horse & buggy? So many questions & anomalies.....

[@TheLoreLodge]

They didn’t exist.

[@unicornkitteh5332]

@@TheLoreLodge who didn't exist? Tartarians? Giants? You really need to do some legitimate research before making wildly inaccurate claims that have been proven with historical data.

[@tommyzolla3724]

@@unicornkitteh5332 I know right. I keep listing anomalies and this man just calls me a ridiculous conspiracy theorist. He claims that a simple google search can answer my questions because he has nothing to respond to

[@unicornkitteh5332]

@@tommyzolla3724 he is letting his ego drive his arrogance & uses logical fallacies to support his so-called argument. "I have a history degree therefore, I KNOW!" 🙄 all that tells me is that he paid way too much money for a degree that didn't teach critical thinking skills. Someone looking at this objectively would not make definitive claims. An appropriate response would be "there are blatant anomalies that can't be explained" (has anyone figured out how & why the pyramids were built yet? No?) and admit that we don't REALLY know the truth. But let's have a productive discussion about it FFS! Instead he is condescending and having a 1-sided conversation on a topic HE BROUGHT UP! Not following this dude anymore. He lost all respect from me.

[@tommyzolla3724]

@@unicornkitteh5332 well said

[@Joey-zs5vm]

Are you saying this from modern education? From modern education? How many old books have you read, say... from early 1900's and back? I agree that the existence of Tartaria is controversial. The incredible architecture is in our faces. And the architecture under almost every modern city is not explained in a rational way by modern academia. Did you get good grades in your schoolings? Do you accept it without question? Your drivel encourages people not think critically. A perfect product of the board of education founded in 1902.

[@TheLoreLodge]

I have hours upon hours of content covering Tartaria on this channel, with another two hour video coming out on Friday. The hilarious part is that I didn’t even exclusively go to public schools growing up, and I have a history degree. College history education is significantly different from the history classes you took in college. Did you for a moment consider that much of what the old books say was wrong because they lacked basically all of the evidence we have today as a result of modern archaeology?

[@Joey-zs5vm]

@@TheLoreLodge Oh, my bad. A history degree from college. I am impressed. What did college make you memorize about the flash frozen mamathos with green vegetation in their mouths and the locals digging them up and eating their flesh?

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@Joey-zs5vm “what did college make you memorize” is a clear tell that you didn’t go to college for history

[@Joey-zs5vm]

@@TheLoreLodge Awe... didn't go to college for his story. How about you do some research on the inception of the Board of Education. All the curriculum has an agenda. Can you guess the agenda? For just a taste of the larger agenda I will ask you a question: what is a woman? I lied. I will ask another question: is there any link between geology and history?

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@Joey-zs5vm buddy again I’ve got HOURS of videos debunking Tartaria point by point. I had a guy on last night who was pro-Tartaria. Get your head out of your ass.

[@scrimpted]

quintessential slack jawed reddit bugman

[@TheLoreLodge]

I’m a trained historian and I’m not even on the left

[@scrimpted]

@@TheLoreLodge "I look stuff up on wikipedia and read from a script that makes me a trained historian" lmfao

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@scrimpted no I have a BA in it and I’m working on my masters lmao

[@scrimpted]

@@TheLoreLodge bachelors in history, so basically a bachelors in quizlet and course hero, get real dude you are not a "trained historian" lmao I know guys that manage subways that have history degrees

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@scrimpted you have no clue what goes into a history degree do you?

[@modano182]

Jesus the level of smug in this video is beyond belief...ACKSHUALLY

[@HoezNjuice]

Who told u u was smart an could talk in that condescending tone?

[@TheLoreLodge]

My four degrees

[@thegoodthebadtheugly22]

surprised this is still up after your chat with xirtus. he made a mockery of your history education. i hope it was money well spent.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Dude, even he didn’t think he made a mockery of it. We had a very pleasant discussion and I think highly of him. Don’t ruin it by being a bad fan.

[@jankobalog3609]

Its not a conspiracy

[@TheLoreLodge]

It is

[@shadw4701]

It's literally one of the many things collectively made up on tiktok. I've noticed this multiple times. I myself am a lucid dreamer and have noticed a lot of techniques are being used for a new belief that started on tiktok called "reality shifting". Truth is tiktok is just a place where misinformation goes viral and festers into new ideas. People have always made stuff up, this is the newest versions of that

[@HDPersonal777]

I first had dreams I thought were from the future, never watched tik tok, learned about Tartaria first hand in Los Angeles, then many KZbin videos began posting about it in 2018! Please explain that!

[@seanp8220]

@@TheLoreLodge yes it is a conspiracy but it's still reality. We have conspirators conspiring for world dominion ... and always did throughout history - get over it

[@Mahsterch]

@@HDPersonal777 you're schizo, that's what

[@noisepuppet]

What happened to the legendary empire called McDonaldland

[@jamesjames7601]

Dude really made an entire video and didn't know what he was talking about

[@frederickgarrett1137]

Uninformed with modern educational bullcrap.

[@nasty4451]

Lol. Some people can't see past the end of their nose

[@TheLoreLodge]

I have three and a half hours of video debunking this theory lmao

[@nasty4451]

@@TheLoreLodge I'd say too much time on your hands.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@nasty4451 this is my job broski

[@arebelscum9495]

​@@TheLoreLodgeBruh, i learned farr more history from the Crusader Kings video game than the people who support the Tartaria conspiracy theory have in there entire lives.

[@HDPersonal777]

@@arebelscum9495video games are designed by the CIA!

[@servantofthetruegod7596]

Bull crap , Paul was in Italy in bible time.. watch out for KZbin scholars

[@andyalback7710]

“i’M A pRiMaRy SoUrCe DoCUmEnT hIStOriAn” Meanwhile, The United States keeps going further down the list in education.

[@OrthodoxLegacy]

Me:Mom I want Stakuyi Mom:We have Stakuyi at home Stakuyi at home:

[@thereynardshow6075]

Haha! I had a feeling you'd make a video about this soon after our conversation. Glad you used that tiktoker rather than I, haha! Though, I must thank you, tartar was a question mark in my mind and you summed it up perfectly and with the historical context to boot. The context is an important part of history that is often skipped in lo of bombastic assertions. Dare I ask of the island of california? Since we are talking about old maps.

[@tartriuspheonixdadam9308]

Why would you trust in a baseless context? I think it's foolhardy to assume the history we're given is truthful or for our benefit.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@tartriuspheonixdadam9308 I understand and appreciate your skepticism about the information we’re given, but when it comes to Tartaria, there is simply no evidence for it. Kings and Generals has a great video on it.

[@lostartifacts1924]

I challenge you to debunk MY LUNCH BREAK KZbin channel

[@TheLoreLodge]

We already did about three hours debunking Mind Unveiled, I’d recommend watching those

[@lostartifacts1924]

@@TheLoreLodge I’ve already did and it’s not really that great I’d strongly recommend you debunk MY LUNCH BREAK he does his research and lays it out better than anyone He even visits these locations himself.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@lostartifacts1924 maybe in a few months, I’m a little burnt out on Tartaria. Also, I’m very curious as to what we got verifiably wrong?

[@lostartifacts1924]

@@TheLoreLodge well to be fair if mind unveiled main expertise is to talk about ancient buildings I would have fired him long time ago. He doesn’t have paperwork to back it up he doesn’t show you what who when and why. MY LUNCH BREAK found many jaw dropping patterns for every ancient building in the documented history he uncovers very strange occurrences again I strongly recommend you debunk this because I know your work is very good here on KZbin I ask you look into this with a reasonable open mind

[@lostartifacts1924]

​@TheLoreLodge you have to check him out, it just may be some hot content if you do a video on his findings. Anyways I hope your having a great day

[@laurids2007]

The problem I see around in KZbin, is the amount of people who have 000 knowledge on history, geography or literature but they go on making stupid videos about such themes as if they were the greatest minds on those subjects. The amount of garbage I have watched here is unbearable. They create sinister theories to justify their assumptions and many believe them, write stupid comments about the videos. This generation is 00.00 in common sense.

[@DrBusiness9]

Very general and weird generation statement at the end of this… I’m certain any generation would appear equally as stupid if the internet existed at the time, the ability to communicate from behind a screen opens up the human mind in bizarre ways however and I agree with the rest of your comment. I just think punting a vague finger at “this generation” so I guess you could even mean boomers is a poor way to conceptualize these uninformed and highly conspiratorial people

[@seanp8220]

What is "knowledge" other than information handed to us by conspirators ?

[@waverlyhairston]

Hi! I just wanted to encourage you not to say the name of the Lord our God in vain. What this does is empties His name, as if it has no value. Pls repent and trust in Christ Jesus to renew you❤️

[@BiggidyB]

Check your ego & do more research.

[@bretwill9417]

Did you stick a fork in a receptacle? Milk

[@Headead5231]

I trust the tartarria guy more.

[@TheLoreLodge]

He doesn’t believe in it either, he just was telling the story

[@SilentiumCivis]

@@TheLoreLodge Your ego is too big

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@SilentiumCivis well when it comes to history I happen to be very qualified

[@user-ys9ke5cj1n]

@@TheLoreLodge how about biblical history what about that is that stuff accurate?

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge they called it "His story" for a reason

[@pamelawinson3192]

Huns ruled tartaris which is Europe now..

[@jfeeezy8418]

Lol at this guy

[@mariobroselli3642]

Wht about a map with Avestan language of Italy? Do you know one?

[@SocialRipper]

someone can read wikipedia, well done

[@TheLoreLodge]

I have multiple degrees in this

[@SocialRipper]

@@TheLoreLodge 🤣😂😂

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@SocialRipper you laugh, but as an actual historian, the Tartaria theory is so phenomenally insane that I can’t help but feel sorry for people like you. Not even interested in understanding why it’s BS, you just want to believe.

[@SocialRipper]

@@TheLoreLodge i question everything, were as you have been indoctrinated into a set of beliefs not facts, and now you regurgitate those beliefs as if fact

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@SocialRipper you have absolutely no idea how a history education works in college, do you? Let’s start here. Do you know what a primary source document is?

[@lawrencemiller3081]

Your explanation does not explain the advanced technology used in building construction.

[@lukekiefer5964]

Look at me! I can recite “facts” rather than think!

[@TheLoreLodge]

I am a trained historian, and 99% of the Tartaria stuff is easily explained by known history. You are being told that a mystery exists when it does not.

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge you are just a religious zealot reading propaganda from your expert priest professors.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@meinkek7896 I’m literally a trained historian using primary source documents and artifacts to support my claims in literally every video I make

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge a lot of "Primary sources" are just bluepilled propaganda for normies. There are old documents that mention "The great wall of tartary" and when i go to wall itself in Badaling from beijing in 2010 the ramparts are facing south. Also the architectural style doesn't match the chinese mainland. It matches european medieval age. NPC's like you dont have Research, original thought, critical thinking. Only recite the priest professor, like a religous zealot. Science is like a cult nowdays

[@autumnfire1490]

Look at me! I can recite Facebook posts rather than think!

[@robertlee8519]

You ever do a Collab with the archaeologist guy that debunks silly TikToks?

[@Verygery12]

They’re both plants

[@pokemontrainer5678]

​@@Verygery12 no they are human I don't see any leaves or flowers on them

[@markovich2004]

You’re so programmed buddy. Open your eyes

[@TheLoreLodge]

If you had a medieval studies degree and spent your life researching history you’d also laugh at the theory

[@rudeboi9799]

Down the rabbit whole and back

[@meinkek7896]

Nothing will open their eyes. They are NPC. They cant be reasoned with.

[@TheLoreLodge]

@@meinkek7896 you’re talking about a guy who claims the national parks service is hiding some sort of government secret my guy

[@meinkek7896]

@@TheLoreLodge If you dig deeper enough of the old documents the wall was mentioned "The great wall of tartary" but i guess the critical thinking and research is not your strong suit. So you just follow what the ((experts)) have told you. Reminds me of a religous cult. A zealot preaching the text from his high priest

[@ladycirclewoman3821]

Funny you mention terminology…..like you know anything about that…..

[@HDPersonal777]

Term-in-ology

[@pfoxhound]

Encyclopedia Britannica 1771. Robinson cruzo book 2. Map that Putin gifted to Shoigu was on a central TV. Different drawing for Russian sector of internet has a part of tartary removed, present for other world. Claims of a merchant 17-18th century that on of northern Russian cities was a main producers of pineapple in the world. ... A lot of shit stuffed at school you unable to check, so that knowledge is a religion.

[@TheLoreLodge]

Tartaria being in a map does not mean some global Tartarian empire existed

[@sneedsneed9264]

@@TheLoreLodge it does tho, it happened to other worldwide advanced empires, like Yugoslavia. it used to be on all the maps now there is no yugoslavia on the map, clearly a conspiracy

[@theungreatfulmisfit8019]

​@@sneedsneed9264 Yugoslavia doesn't exist on any modern maps anymore because the country was disbanded after the collapse of the Soviet Union. Yugoslavia was founded in 1918 after the fall of the Austro-Hungarian Empire during World War 1, and after World War 2 it was annexed by the USSR. the Country disbanded due to a poor economy and a corrupt government, NATO disbanded it. The country's that now make up where Yugoslavia borders are today are... Slovenia, Serbia, Montenegro, Croatia, Kosovo, Macedonia, Bosnia and Herzegovina. I hope I was able to help give you some information on Yugoslavia, it wasn't an empire, it was a country. And it isn't on modern maps because it isn't a country anymore.

[@autumnfire1490]

@@sneedsneed9264 I have never seen a person as foolish as you you have truly amazed me

[@christopherlin4706]

@@theungreatfulmisfit8019imagine if history was rewritten such that people believed Yugoslavia was never United and was just a place holder name for Slavic peoples 😂😊